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Title: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: conclusivemj on November 11, 2011, 01:39:49 AM
Please jump to 2:21 and listen to Murray say "I am this hoax!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVnsZalS6Es&feature=

 moonwalk_/
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Post by: annieareyouokannie on November 11, 2011, 01:46:38 AM
OMG you have GOT to be JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: bec on November 11, 2011, 01:47:15 AM
He says "I am The Source". It's clear and it fits perfectly in context.
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Post by: annieareyouokannie on November 11, 2011, 01:57:22 AM
Damn Bec you are right. Should have turned up the volume in the first place. Got me all excited for nothing!
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: conclusivemj on November 11, 2011, 01:59:04 AM
Yep Bec. You're right. bangbang
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: applehead250609 on November 11, 2011, 05:46:29 AM
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Please jump to 2:21 and listen to Murray say "I am this hoax!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVnsZalS6Es&feature=

 moonwalk_/

He clearly say "I'M this SOURCE".By the way,Mr.Murray is a very GOOD ACTOR   :shock:   /cook/   geek/ :lol:  :lol: :lol: :lol:!!!!
It's all for L.O.V.E!!!!
   
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: pepper on November 11, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
At 2:01 -

"Flanagan's got to wake up!  He needs some coffee and some pit bull, or red bull..." 
:lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVnsZalS6Es&feature=[/youtube]

And yes, with Murray's accent I can hear "I am this soaks!" (I am this hoax!) at 2:21  ;)

Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: PureLove on November 11, 2011, 06:06:15 PM
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He says "I am The Source". It's clear and it fits perfectly in context.

 /bravo/
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Post by: For All Time on November 12, 2011, 05:57:36 AM
I think he said " source " but for me = to hoax :D
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Post by: wishingstar on November 12, 2011, 08:30:43 AM
"I am The Source"......brilliant, it's all in front of us and the world, yet nobody else can see it.  A couple of things I noticed:

- about 1:12 he talks about how Michael is saying 20 will make such a difference "at this stage of the production".....production indeed!
   *just a side note: isn't funny how he doesn't really change his voice when he was saying what Michael said to him?

Anyways........great catch the The Source.........so piece, by piece, by piece.............

Blessings!
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Post by: ForstAMoon on November 12, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
oh, even TMZ has put this part of the documentary up

  /bravo/
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Jennie on November 12, 2011, 10:23:14 AM
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I've listened through my medical transcription equipment dozens of times with headphones on and at every imaginable speed. To my ears which have been transcribing foreign accents for 23 years, it clearly sounds like "I am this hoax." I hear an "x" for sure at the end and "this hoax" would be compatible with the rest of his spoken accent. If I were transcribing this for a medical record, I would transcribe "I am this hoax." But hey - someone may hear something different. :)

This is one reply to the youtube vid and it makes me wonder what he is really saying. Kinda like are we really listening and paying attention or are we accepting what seems logical and what is a wide spread belief??   :-\ suspicious//
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 12, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
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I've listened through my medical transcription equipment dozens of times with headphones on and at every imaginable speed. To my ears which have been transcribing foreign accents for 23 years, it clearly sounds like "I am this hoax." I hear an "x" for sure at the end and "this hoax" would be compatible with the rest of his spoken accent. If I were transcribing this for a medical record, I would transcribe "I am this hoax." But hey - someone may hear something different. :)

This is one reply to the youtube vid and it makes me wonder what he is really saying. Kinda like are we really listening and paying attention or are we accepting what seems logical and what is a wide spread belief??   :-\ suspicious//

It is very possible that since there are edited versions (at least 2 and possibly 3) of this documentary, there exists two versions of what is being said. "I am this hoax" and "I am the source".

Too this reminds me of TII and the "versions" of rehearsal scenes....clearly this documentary is a continuation.
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Post by: wishingstar on November 12, 2011, 02:50:15 PM
You know...I listened again, and WATCHED his lips/face....I'll gosh darned, but I think it is "I am this hoax"......watch him closely...does anyone have a really good monitor they can see clearer...mine is not too bad, but anyone better out there?  I have always thought there is a combination of things to see/hear......the sign language in TII, lip reading, etc......every sense is being used with this hoax.

Blessings
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: conclusivemj on November 12, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
Latoya is unavoidably telling us Michael has faked his death to frame another. The Jacksons have always said that Conrad Murray was a fall guy. I think that big clues like this, the 32 stars on the California seal instead of 31 and no Conrad mugshot are indications Michael is alive!

 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: MissG on November 12, 2011, 03:06:44 PM
I listen -"I am this sauce" , but I am Spanish, so it fits better -"I am the source"

Another video, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLIllvluQE&feature=related form 1:23 mentions a date, July 15th 2009...I am quite shocked listening to what he felt that day.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: anewfan on November 12, 2011, 03:09:06 PM
Has anyone figured out who the guy whose face is concealed is?
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: MeandMyShadow on November 12, 2011, 03:22:16 PM
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Please jump to 2:21 and listen to Murray say "I am this hoax!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVnsZalS6Es&feature=

 moonwalk_/
  I believe he says, "I am the source...talk to me"
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Jennie on November 12, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
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I listen -"I am this sauce" , but I am Spanish, so it fits better -"I am the source"

Another video, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLIllvluQE&feature=related form 1:23 mentions a date, July 15th 2009...I am quite shocked listening to what he felt that day.

Who is that giggling when Murray describes his revelation of the holly spirit? And she also says   " Did Michael tell you to do this?" I watched the documentary on tv last nite and I dont remember anyone laughing at him and asking this.
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Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 12, 2011, 04:54:39 PM
He is THE SOURCE?? What kind of source is he? You can see how good of an actor he is, he should get an oscar.. Especially when he was talking in the van, he was full of pep.. Maybe he took some uppers that day, or the other day..   lolol/
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: mumof3 on November 13, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
he says  the source
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Post by: MissG on November 13, 2011, 12:03:07 PM
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I listen -"I am this sauce" , but I am Spanish, so it fits better -"I am the source"

Another video, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLIllvluQE&feature=related form 1:23 mentions a date, July 15th 2009...I am quite shocked listening to what he felt that day.

Who is that giggling when Murray describes his revelation of the holly spirit? And she also says   " Did Michael tell you to do this?" I watched the documentary on tv last nite and I dont remember anyone laughing at him and asking this.
The person who recorded the video at home said it.

I am very touched listening to Murray´s experience. His "revelation" is in deed what I call human nature.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: paula-c on November 13, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
With my poor english i heard (with earphones and the high volume) :lol:, "i am the hoax" smiley_spider
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: suspicious mind on November 13, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
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I listen -"I am this sauce" , but I am Spanish, so it fits better -"I am the source"

Another video, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLIllvluQE&feature=related form 1:23 mentions a date, July 15th 2009...I am quite shocked listening to what he felt that day.

Who is that giggling when Murray describes his revelation of the holly spirit? And she also says   " Did Michael tell you to do this?" I watched the documentary on tv last nite and I dont remember anyone laughing at him and asking this.
The person who recorded the video at home said it.

I am very touched listening to Murray´s experience. His "revelation" is in deed what I call human nature.

it is interesting that the holy spirit is supposed to be our source, our helper after salvation.  i have seen so many little things in this that remind me of the gospel story that i have lost count.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: MissG on November 13, 2011, 12:33:20 PM
Now i listen :-"I am his horse" O__o

(sauce)source or (horse)hoax?
Murray´s dialect makes it difficult at times.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: MissG on November 13, 2011, 12:35:26 PM
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I listen -"I am this sauce" , but I am Spanish, so it fits better -"I am the source"

Another video, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLIllvluQE&feature=related form 1:23 mentions a date, July 15th 2009...I am quite shocked listening to what he felt that day.

Who is that giggling when Murray describes his revelation of the holly spirit? And she also says   " Did Michael tell you to do this?" I watched the documentary on tv last nite and I dont remember anyone laughing at him and asking this.
The person who recorded the video at home said it.

I am very touched listening to Murray´s experience. His "revelation" is in deed what I call human nature.

it is interesting that the holy spirit is supposed to be our source, our helper after salvation.  i have seen so many little things in this that remind me of the gospel story that i have lost count.

The holy spirit=God?

What happened to Murray could have happened to more people, even to atheists ones...
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: paula-c on November 13, 2011, 12:53:54 PM
They have had to put a microphone closer to Murray :lol:
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Post by: suspicious mind on November 13, 2011, 01:09:35 PM
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I listen -"I am this sauce" , but I am Spanish, so it fits better -"I am the source"

Another video, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLIllvluQE&feature=related form 1:23 mentions a date, July 15th 2009...I am quite shocked listening to what he felt that day.

Who is that giggling when Murray describes his revelation of the holly spirit? And she also says   " Did Michael tell you to do this?" I watched the documentary on tv last nite and I dont remember anyone laughing at him and asking this.
The person who recorded the video at home said it.

I am very touched listening to Murray´s experience. His "revelation" is in deed what I call human nature.

it is interesting that the holy spirit is supposed to be our source, our helper after salvation.  i have seen so many little things in this that remind me of the gospel story that i have lost count.

The holy spirit=God?

What happened to Murray could have happened to more people, even to atheists ones...

but i am pretty sure murray is a baptist  :lol:
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Andrea on November 13, 2011, 01:38:30 PM
I agree with MissG's initial reaction 'I am the sauce.'

:lol: :lol:

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Post by: fatalkiss26 on November 13, 2011, 01:45:04 PM
he is NOT saying "source"..unless he pronounces his "s' like an H...I hear " I am this Hoax"...in reference to what he is saying about Flannigan and clearly being upset because he screwed up with Steinburg


I've seen the same clip a dozen times on websites and clips on HLN and MSNBC...why are they constantly shows the same clip as a preview for the documentary if this wasn't some sort of clue?
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: suspicious mind on November 13, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
 /scream/ oh God!  :roll: this is gonna get ugly like the time /  talent thing , i see it coming. argue/  :lol:
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Post by: Aidan_81 on November 13, 2011, 03:35:47 PM
LOL guys, we're overhoaxed  :lol:

He says The Source, but I hope he's not TS  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: PureLove on November 13, 2011, 04:05:30 PM
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Now i listen :-"I am his horse" O__o

(sauce)source or (horse)hoax?
Murray´s dialect makes it difficult at times.

:lol:
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 13, 2011, 04:53:26 PM
What's wrong with Murray's accent anyway? What's his native language?
He has a terrible accent.
And his voice is so let's say unusual, not to say weird for such a tall man. Tall men usually have deep voices but not Murray  WTF??
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 13, 2011, 04:57:12 PM
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Now i listen :-"I am his horse" O__o

(sauce)source or (horse)hoax?
Murray´s dialect makes it difficult at times.

ROFL Gema  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: PureLove on November 13, 2011, 06:14:41 PM
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What's wrong with Murray's accent anyway? What's his native language?
He has a terrible accent.
And his voice is so let's say unusual, not to say weird for such a tall man. Tall men usually have deep voices but not Murray  WTF??

Was he from Honduras? They speak Spanish in Honduras.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Suzy7 on November 13, 2011, 06:48:32 PM
He's from The West Indies-The Caribbean.
I think him saying he's "The Source" and also saying "his life mirrors Michael's", is the reference as to who TS could be.
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Post by: YouRnotAlone7 on November 13, 2011, 06:50:51 PM
I think he is from Trinidad and I love his beautiful accent and soft voice.  I really like CM and don't think he is guilty but is just part of the hoax.  ::::ducking from impending fire:::::
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Post by: MissG on November 14, 2011, 05:06:59 AM
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He's from The West Indies-The Caribbean.
I think him saying he's "The Source" and also saying "his life mirrors Michael's", is the reference as to who TS could be.

TS "joked" and wrote in one update -"I am Conrad Murray"


No offence taken but Murray body language and verbal expression make me LMHO at times :D
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Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 14, 2011, 07:36:39 AM
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I think he is from Trinidad and I love his beautiful accent and soft voice.  I really like CM and don't think he is guilty but is just part of the hoax.  ::::ducking from impending fire:::::

dont duck. agree with you %100
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Post by: Suzy7 on November 14, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
@MissG I didn't say TS was Murray lol. But yes he did sarcastically say he "could be Murray". More like someone else...
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Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 14, 2011, 08:03:47 PM
The Source = TS 0_________o

"In TIai update #6.5: Michael & Elvis, DOUBle-scam from TS??"

TS writes:

Quote from: TS
I just happen to know something about Elvis/Jesse and his safety, that even Linda does not know.  And what I have done and am doing is for his best interest and greatest safety—both in the present and future.  If any are able to figure out The Source of what I’ve been presenting for more than a year now, they will know for certain that what I’m saying here is 100% true.

and he capitalized The Source :shock:
Maybe it was a "coincidence" but still. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: MissG on November 14, 2011, 08:07:08 PM
" If any are able to figure out The Source of what I’ve been presenting for more than a year now.."

The Source=Murray? = TS´s source?

Late here...may be i am not understanding at all...
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: fatalkiss26 on November 14, 2011, 09:39:21 PM
TS= "<b>T</b>he <b>S</b>ource


hmmmm.............
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Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 14, 2011, 11:32:44 PM
you know whats funny, i mentioned The Source point after watching doco on the THAI thread sep 27 on Nov 11, and my comment was ignored by everyone on that thread...  lol.

nevermind :)


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anyone notice in the connie doco, how CM refers to him as The Source.

i dont think cm is TS. i have a different opinion on that. but just thought the "The Source" reference was interesting as TS has referenced to himself as The Source previously.

L.O.V.E to all.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: conclusivemj on November 14, 2011, 11:38:07 PM
I know it is hard to believe MJ would comeback, but remember what Akon said 'Michael's entire life is choreographed'...if MJ is hiding, he won't stay hiding for long. This hoax is reaching it's maturity date/expiration both scriptwise and contractually (dancers have the 2 year non-disclosure agreement). Joaquin Phoenix's hoax lasted 2 years. Theoretically there is nothing left to do now but a comeback.  8-) I think it's funny how the fans misunderstood the "Bam" comment as his comeback when all it really was a direction towards when the band should start playing during the dramatic pause in Human Nature, but now we lovingly know it as Bam Day. The seal of confidence from MJ to the fans that this is all a live production is his signature at the end credits of This Is It. It is the keystone clue that this is a directed act by the man himself. Also (and this is tantamount) someone who had access the IMDB.com account for the Conrad Murray Documentary put MJ as the Director early this year for about a week or so and was quickly pulled afterwards. There's alot of noise, alot of noise:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3735024/

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Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 14, 2011, 11:45:45 PM
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And his voice is so let's say unusual, not to say weird for such a tall man. Tall men usually have deep voices but not Murray  WTF??

you could say the same of mj...
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Grace on November 15, 2011, 12:09:08 AM
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Also (and this is tantamount) someone who had access the IMDB.com account for the Conrad Murray Documentary put MJ as the Director early this year for about a week or so and was quickly pulled afterwards. There's alot of noise, alot of noise:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3735024/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3735024/)

There is much noise in the link you shared. Thank you!

This is what you referred to - June 2010:
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: conclusivemj on November 15, 2011, 12:19:03 AM
That's it Grace!  michael-jackson/
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: Suzy7 on November 15, 2011, 04:31:27 PM
The Source = what TS most likely stands for.
By Murray saying his life and Michael's life mirror eachother, then TS could in fact be _________. Definitely not Murray anyway, in my opinion.
Title: Re: "I AM THIS HOAX!"
Post by: MissG on November 15, 2011, 06:41:44 PM
I watched that part again and now I listen "I´m at his house"
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