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Title: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: finfin on November 19, 2011, 06:21:56 AM


Check out at 3.12  -  YES MICHAEL WE ARE HEARING YOU!!!

"In my PAINS"...Will you be there  - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show by Cirque du Soleil Toronto



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfeCVgWBp-M&feature=share

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfeCVgWBp-M&feature=share [/youtube]
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: 2good2btrue on November 19, 2011, 06:50:10 AM
Thanks for sharing this...........I swear it sounds like he has re-recorded that version and it almost sounds live.........Great pick-up.

So he is still suffering from many "PAINS".....again.....
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: LUNA on November 19, 2011, 06:55:16 AM
it could be the same song we heard at the memorial!! (or.... there is a version of wybt in which mj says "pains". is it possible??  ???/) 

LUNA
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: Billie J on November 19, 2011, 07:00:26 AM
thanx for sharing this finfin. Michael we hear you, load and clear.I will be there.Love you.
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 19, 2011, 07:18:43 AM
I hear him too.. Pains. I should say Royal pains in the neck.....
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: ninanin on November 19, 2011, 08:49:09 AM
Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: Katie2 on November 19, 2011, 09:04:01 AM
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Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)


Yeah I hear the wheeze, it sounds live to me its sorta weird O.o
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: ninanin on November 19, 2011, 09:15:48 AM
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Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)


Yeah I hear the wheeze, it sounds live to me its sorta weird O.o

Yes ...sounds live for me too.

Take care of yourself MJ !!!!
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: julia142 on November 19, 2011, 10:40:22 AM
I confirm, I saw the show 2 times, on the premiere on the 2nd october and on the 3rd october. I also noticed the 2 times that it was the painS version!

And also, there is another thing:

At the end of the ''They don't care about us'' song, all the soldiers have a heart on their stomach and it flashes on them and we hear a heart beating while these quotes of Michael are on the sreen.

 "In a world filled with HATE, we must still dare to HOPE
In a world filled with angy, we must still dare to COMFORT
In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to DREAM
In a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to BELIEVE"

Then, when we see ''we must still dare to BELIEVE", the sentence we must still dare to'' disappear and we only see the ''believe'' word with the signature of MJ under it for a few seconds.

Also, in the original Michael says ''angry'' not ''angy'':

Thanks to my friend Sylvie who was with me she search for the word ''angy'' and could only find it in the ''Urban dictionnary'':
when somebody is too drunk and angry to say the word angry, so instead use the word "angy". Usually said by big muscly guys who spend their life in the gym and think they are hard.

Weird...





Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 19, 2011, 11:06:43 AM
 suspicious//

They play with us suspicious//
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 19, 2011, 12:10:08 PM
I went to the Montreal one, and I hear the original one Pain without any S. I feel this one in Toronto was a different performance. I seemed live to me, more mature voice. The one in Montreal was not the same,for me... I did not have time to post this on my previous post.  I have to find it in youtube to see the difference.
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 19, 2011, 12:29:25 PM
Strange I cannot find, it and I do remember they did this song..  I remember telling my friend how come in the funeral he said pains and now it is back to the orginal pain.. She just smiled at me.. I will still look for it. Unless I am dreaming  lolol/
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: wishingstar on November 19, 2011, 12:31:14 PM
Wow...yes there is a wheeze of some sort.  I don't hear a wheeze in the memorial version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jums2oVs3KM


In TII at the very of Smooth Criminal, I had always heard something not quite right either.....just a more stressed sounding voice.  I thought it was attributed to over-worked vocal chords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAfD15uho-k


However, maybe Michael does/did indeed have something wrong....with sick like cold/flu or maybe worse.....a serious health issue with his vocal chords?  This video does have a wheeze...it sounds so live, weird.  Thank you for posting it.......

Blessings
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: BeTheChange on November 19, 2011, 12:32:28 PM
I'm not sure if the Toronto show in the youtube clip is the one I attended (there were 3 shows in Toronto)...but the one I did attend, it was definitely the painS version and it did sound like a re-recorded version.  Then again, a lot of the songs sounded 'different' to me.

It's unfortunate that the people making the vid had shitty seats...you can hardly make out anything in the video.  And if that is what they saw for the rest of the show, then they missed a great show.  We were 4 rows from the catwalk, center floors....perfect seats. 

I haven't heard enough of the Immortal album songs, but I'm really hoping that they are the same versions that they used at the Toronto show.  They were all redone/changed in some way...and many of them sounded live.

With L.O.V.E. always.

P.S. @all4love...I was surprised to even see this youtube clip because you are NOT allowed to film anything at any Cirque shows.  Some people around us tried and security was quickly on them, telling them to put their cameras/phones away. 
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: julia142 on November 19, 2011, 12:44:41 PM
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Strange I cannot find, it and I do remember they did this song..  I remember telling my friend how come in the funeral he said pains and now it is back to the orginal pain.. She just smiled at me.. I will still look for it. Unless I am dreaming  lolol/

Strange, lol, we didn't hear the same thing, cause me and my friend we heard painS and we looked at each other with a smile, I have to look into my video, maybe I have it, cause I filmed the whole thing, first night we were 4th row in the center stage, and second night we were on the 4th row of the stage, so I tried to film, but it was not easy so my recordings are not very good, though I hope I filmed this portion of Will you be there... I am going to take a look.
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: iamamjbeliever on November 19, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
hmmm, the beginning of the song sounded like the order michael. Am I hearing things?
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: MaryK on November 19, 2011, 01:42:33 PM
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Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)


Yeah I hear the wheeze, it sounds live to me its sorta weird O.o

I believe that he is doing the Immortal World Tour with them......
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 19, 2011, 10:10:59 PM
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I'm not sure if the Toronto show in the youtube clip is the one I attended (there were 3 shows in Toronto)...but the one I did attend, it was definitely the painS version and it did sound like a re-recorded version.  Then again, a lot of the songs sounded 'different' to me.

It's unfortunate that the people making the vid had shitty seats...you can hardly make out anything in the video.  And if that is what they saw for the rest of the show, then they missed a great show.  We were 4 rows from the catwalk, center floors....perfect seats. 

I haven't heard enough of the Immortal album songs, but I'm really hoping that they are the same versions that they used at the Toronto show.  They were all redone/changed in some way...and many of them sounded live.

With L.O.V.E. always.

P.S. @all4love...I was surprised to even see this youtube clip because you are NOT allowed to film anything at any Cirque shows.  Some people around us tried and security was quickly on them, telling them to put their cameras/phones away. 

I agree, we had the same thing in Montreal. Honestly I asked my friend today and she did not hear pains..we heard pain.. She also remembered the comment I made about adding the S in pain.. I am totally lost here..
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: willddoMJ on November 19, 2011, 11:35:35 PM
thanks alot for this video, the wheeze is wierd.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jums2oVs3KM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJMPTmbOvR0&feature=fvwrel[/youtube]

cause if you wanted compare all 3 videos, there original, memorial & immortal versions. Of course i have never watched the memorial fully a second time since day it was live on tv, i just can't. and of course that free willy  scene is where i first heard will you be there ;D
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 19, 2011, 11:57:07 PM
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Strange I cannot find, it and I do remember they did this song..  I remember telling my friend how come in the funeral he said pains and now it is back to the orginal pain.. She just smiled at me.. I will still look for it. Unless I am dreaming  lolol/

Strange, lol, we didn't hear the same thing, cause me and my friend we heard painS and we looked at each other with a smile, I have to look into my video, maybe I have it, cause I filmed the whole thing, first night we were 4th row in the center stage, and second night we were on the 4th row of the stage, so I tried to film, but it was not easy so my recordings are not very good, though I hope I filmed this portion of Will you be there... I am going to take a look.

are you in Montreal?
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: MJonmind on November 20, 2011, 12:21:51 AM
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Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)


Yeah I hear the wheeze, it sounds live to me its sorta weird O.o

I believe that he is doing the Immortal World Tour with them......
I'm thinking that he might do the odd song here and there on the odd show, just for the surprise unexpected effect, but with not the exhaustion for him of doing it all the time, like in a typical tour.
When I listen to it, I hear an older MJ, not with lung issues at all, but just maybe closer to the mike to pick up better sound.  His voice even as an older man, is absolutely  electrifying! I love hearing his breathing, makes him feel closer somehow. :oops:
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 20, 2011, 12:23:52 AM
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Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)


Yeah I hear the wheeze, it sounds live to me its sorta weird O.o

I believe that he is doing the Immortal World Tour with them......
I'm thinking that he might do the odd song here and there on the odd show, just for the surprise unexpected effect, but with not the exhaustion for him of doing it all the time, like in a typical tour.
When I listen to it, I hear an older MJ, not with lung issues at all, but just maybe closer to the mike to pick up better sound.  His voice even as an older man, is absolutely  electrifying! I love hearing his breathing, makes him feel closer somehow. :oops:

i agree with you, I was just about to say the same thing. He sounded older, I did not hear any wheezing ..
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: willddoMJ on November 20, 2011, 12:30:07 AM
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Yes ...another painS .... but also right after he sings ..sorrow .... he breaths in and his lungs / bronkis whines ...like he has a lung problem.  Anyone else hear this ? 
When did MJ record and let the public hear anything less then perfect ? This for me is a sign :=)


Yeah I hear the wheeze, it sounds live to me its sorta weird O.o

I believe that he is doing the Immortal World Tour with them......
I'm thinking that he might do the odd song here and there on the odd show, just for the surprise unexpected effect, but with not the exhaustion for him of doing it all the time, like in a typical tour.
When I listen to it, I hear an older MJ, not with lung issues at all, but just maybe closer to the mike to pick up better sound.  His voice even as an older man, is absolutely  electrifying! I love hearing his breathing, makes him feel closer somehow. :oops:

i agree with you, I was just about to say the same thing. He sounded older, I did not hear any wheezing ..

Id agree the sounding older part, the wheezing can be the emotional part mj is giving in singing the song?
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: For All Time on November 20, 2011, 01:01:52 AM
How I wish to be able to see this show ! So again his "painS" :D
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: scorpionchik on November 20, 2011, 03:25:05 AM
Yeap, yeap, I too clearly hear wheeze, and painS again, whereas in none of previous versions of this song Michael did not sing with 's'. This was discussed of course, the 's' for the first time we heard on the 'memorial''. So, the Cuirque repeats it or Michael sings himself. OMG, I will be attending Immortal in LA in January at Staples Centers, what if Michael comes out piece by piece from that robot......That would be a sensation. errrr  mj_bad/ :-*
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: willddoMJ on December 17, 2011, 06:43:44 AM
i like this version, so i download it as an MP3, it would been quite nice if MJ sang like this during This is It or maybe he did just hasnt surfaced yet.. we can dream right?
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: hesouttamylife on December 17, 2011, 08:28:16 AM
That is amazing and Souza your snow makes it even more special.  I also heard pains and the very first of that song is definetly new.  I have checked all the Will You Be There’s on Youtube and that version is nowhere. 
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 17, 2011, 09:24:37 AM
Yup.. pains... this song , especially the end, always has me in tears! Michael  :( (http://www.forumsextreme.com/images/sLo_hug2.gif)
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: Delia on December 17, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
Have we imagined a better interpretation of this song ? Here it is ! Beyond words. His tears...our tears...
and the snow.
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: suspicious mind on December 17, 2011, 10:16:41 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhr78whptk[/youtube]

this one is live
Title: Re: In my PAINS!!!...Will you be there - Micheal Jackson Immortal Show Toronto
Post by: willddoMJ on December 18, 2011, 05:53:34 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOS1bpbOU-8&feature=related[/youtube]
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