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Title: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: PureLove on November 24, 2011, 10:38:14 AM
Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line

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Following Blackglama's most successful "What Becomes a Legend Most?" ad campaign to date, featuring Janet Jackson , the brand announced this morning the launch of the Janet Jackson Blackglama collection. The line of luxe fur outerwear and accessories will debut in stores in November.

"The art of fashion is one of my great passions," states Janet Jackson . "I've worked for years to bring a collection into the world. Partnering with Blackglama is very exciting."

The collection is comprised of 15 pieces ranging from coats, jackets, vests, scarves, gloves and other accessories. All contain both classic and contemporary elements and utilize Blackglama mink in conjunction with other materials such as leather.

"When we began preparation for the second Blackglama campaign, Janet became very involved in the design process. The result was an amazing collection of Blackglama garments and accessories that reflect Janet's tremendous sense of style and fashion," said Mike McCrea , VP of Marketing for Blackglama. "This is one of the most visually appealing and innovative Blackglama collections I have seen."

The line is priced for the luxury market and will retail in the Fur Salon at select Saks Fifth Avenue and the Maximilian Fur Salon at select Bloomingdales.

Blackglama collection creator,Yogi Bear, has already come out saying that Janet is Not A Legend Most


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Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: PureLove on November 24, 2011, 10:38:51 AM
Seriously Janet? That's a shame!
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: fordtocarr on November 24, 2011, 10:43:16 AM
This just cannot be real!!  I don't even think hunter/singer Ted Nugent would do this!! 
Disgusting.  Maybe it is faux fur and it's a pun???
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: stefy66 on November 24, 2011, 10:47:29 AM
bad choice...
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Post by: Dontwalkaway on November 24, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
It seems like a set up to me.    Not real.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: RK on November 24, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
This will stir up a lot of trouble. I hope it's a set up, but I'm not so sure. People don't need to wear skins...we come with our own.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: fordtocarr on November 24, 2011, 11:03:57 AM
I think this pic is from a group called One Voice, that is at the bottom of the pic.  I don't find anything about them yet, but I have gone to the Blackglama page and there are a lot of Janet's pics.  I don't know...to be read rude though, that they are not severely photoshopped, cuz Janet, we just saw is a thick girl.  Muscular...  and the web has her topless and she don't look like those pics when caught sunning...  I'd LOVE to have a perfectly photoshopped pic of me :)
Anyhow...a lot of celebs have done this...there are others pics you can click on.  It must be the thing to do..although their designer apparently don't think Janet is a legend...when compared to the others they've done...?
http://www.blackglama.com/campaigns/legends-gallery/
I sure don't agree with wearing fur..even though I know at one time on earth it was necessary.  But now we have ways to be warm without killing.  I don't see how to love animals and yet kill them.  My husband and I go round and round on his hunting and us raising dogs...
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: ForstAMoon on November 24, 2011, 11:12:03 AM
seems real  :(

http://www.janetjackson.com/story/news/blackglama-announces-debut-of-janet-jackson-blackglama-collection

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/janet.jpg)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: fordtocarr on November 24, 2011, 12:01:46 PM
Yeah, it's real, but not that pic at the top....that's apparently from an activist site...
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 24, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
I’m so against killing animals for glamour, /overreacting/ but on the other hand, Janet does look sizzling hot in that black leather lolol/
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on November 25, 2011, 09:33:33 AM
I probably couldn't be more disappointed with somebody I once respected.

You'd do anything for money. That's what it's all about, I guess. And that is someone who supposedly loves animals. I will never ever be able to understand how someone can have such little compassion for other living creatures. Janet is in her forties and probably well-informed about the cruelty involved with the production of a fur coat. Anyway, it is my opinion that even if the production was cruelty-free, it is never alright to slaughter an animal, especially up to a hundred or more for one item of luxury. That's the sickest and most disgusting thing in the world, I'm sorry. No, I'm not sorry, strike that out.

Janet makes me want to say certain words starting with the letter b... or c... or the like. I won't lower myself, though. Janet's lyrics feature enough dirty language.  >:(
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on November 25, 2011, 09:48:22 AM
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The real price of fur must be measured in deaths--not dollars. To make one fur coat you must kill at least fifty-five wild mink, thirty-five ranched mink, forty sables, eleven lynx, eighteen red foxes, eleven silver foxes, one hundred chinchillas, thirty rex rabbits, nine beavers, thirty muskrats, fifteen bobcats, twenty-five skunks, fourteen otters, one hundred twenty-five ermines, thirty possums, one hundred squirrels, or twenty-seven raccoons.
http://www.idausa.org/facts/furfacts.html

That's the kind of stuff that makes me ashamed of being human.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Katie2 on November 25, 2011, 12:09:35 PM
God I hope this is not real that's horrible, when will people learn  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on November 25, 2011, 04:09:27 PM
not feeling it Janet...
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on November 25, 2011, 04:33:21 PM
This is her choice - a sick one. Her image changed forever. I wonder: will  she ever feel delivering an explanation ?
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Aidan_81 on November 29, 2011, 05:40:36 AM
So is it true? Oh that's so upsetting. I'm totally against fur and I live in Russia, so
we get tons of it and that's painful to witness.. winter or not. Fur as fashion statement is
against everything I believe in. It's a no-no.
Janet, why?.. Money?  :(
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: RK on December 06, 2011, 10:31:43 AM
Here is a video of the actual photo shoot.
Janet looks amazing.
But fur trade is barbaric. Most US fur companies buy their fur from China and well... you know the rest
Just thinking about the fur industry causes a knot in my chest.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKwHfFcsqK4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: applehead250609 on December 06, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
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Here is a video of the actual photo shoot.
Janet looks amazing.
But fur trade is barbaric. Most US fur companies buy their fur from China and well... you know the rest
Just thinking about the fur industry causes a knot in my chest.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKwHfFcsqK4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

From the begining I didn't want to say a thing,until I had some proof  :( . Since RK put THE PROOF today on this forum,I have to say that I'm DISGUSTED,I'm sorry I know that words can kill,but this time,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH  :cry: . Anything for money,and I see that Janet is the same like the rest .Rich people doesen't care about poor animals,or the poor people of this planet.I'm sorry but from now on ,Janet has declined in my eyes  :( . Actually I'm goona write her some things right now.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: RK on December 06, 2011, 11:22:58 AM
You know applehead...I just watched that heart wrenching video from Jonah about being bullied and now thinking of the slaughtering of beautiful animals for vanity and I am very teary tonight.
So I will say goodnight now and go and have a little cry into my pillow about the pain and suffering in the world and how we need a miracle to see change that will make a dent in this monster.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: reveron1958 on December 06, 2011, 12:52:08 PM
YUK!   (http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-27.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)

I thought it would turn out to be a high end 'Fake' fur she was selling, not mink.  :|


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When impeccable style, tasteful design and intrinsic beauty come together, something magical happens. The intermingling of such elusive ingredients creates experiences that are transcendent in nature, creating memories that last a lifetime.

Instances such as these are the principles that the Blackglama® brand is built upon. Embodying a rare set of intangible characteristics, Blackglama products combine superb quality with an unquestionable sense of style and sophistication. These attributes distinguish Blackglama from its counterparts, calling to the trend-setting, style-savvy fashion connoisseurs that demand the Blackglama name.

World renowned for their unbridled luxury and elegance, Blackglama products are created from the finest materials. Each Blackglama skin is hand selected, with less than 2% of the world’s Black mink population being deemed worthy of the exclusive Blackglama name. Handcrafted from the highest quality mink in the world, Blackglama products are internationally regarded for their exquisite attention to detail. Each Blackglama product is individually labeled to ensure authenticity and can be found throughout the world at selected high-end retail locations.

All mink procured by American Legend Cooperative originate from Origin Assured farms. Origin Assured farms adhere to strict governmental and agricultural guidelines and regulations that govern mink production, ensuring that the highest standard of humane care is utilized.

The finest quality comes from the finest care.   :roll: :roll: :roll:

 WTF?? Janet  :roll:
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: applehead250609 on December 06, 2011, 02:34:07 PM
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You know applehead...I just watched that heart wrenching video from Jonah about being bullied and now thinking of the slaughtering of beautiful animals for vanity and I am very teary tonight.
So I will say goodnight now and go and have a little cry into my pillow about the pain and suffering in the world and how we need a miracle to see change that will make a dent in this monster.

RK I know how you feel,because I feel the same,vey,very disappointed  :( .I knew Latoya wears this kind of things,but not Janet.Anyway it seems that piece by piece,Jackson family keeps disappoints me .Ofcourse nobody is perfect,but I didn't expect this from them.For example Janet has enough money,so she doesent's need to do ,what she just did,but anyway  :( .Here is her sister Latoya being very,very "ELEGANT" and HAPPY, in her coat  :( ,about 1 week ago:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VICOffh3AS4[/youtube]


Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on December 06, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
Anyway, the music they have chosen for this video is completely unappropiate.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: NightOwl on December 06, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKwHfFcsqK4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]


That's disgusting. Killing animals for elitism and human vanity. So sad. Sad are the YTers' comments below this vid as well - those few who mention the furs got replies comparing furs to food. Sure, how animals that are killed for food is a big issue itself, but fur is for VANITY. Doesn't compare.

Just earlier today watched a video today called "Killing us softly" - nothing to do with furs. It's a lecture by Jean Kilbourne about the image of women in advertising -> sexism etc. There were examples of how black women are often wearing leopard clothes, tiger make up - "as if they were exotic animals".
Gotta say that Janet+fur+Black cat blasting in the video... it is another example of advertisers portraying this image.

I posted the link to the video elsewhere: topic=21627.msg377685#msg377685







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Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: NightOwl on December 06, 2011, 02:42:29 PM
Sorry, double
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on December 06, 2011, 02:45:01 PM
Latoya says (?) : <The kids are very smart ; they know what*s right and true.>
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 06, 2011, 03:17:19 PM
oh come on you guys...don't you like black leather? And your shoes are made of ...what?
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: trublu on December 06, 2011, 03:20:57 PM
Hope it's not true. Disgusting.

FYI:: Leather is a BY-PRODUCT
MINK/Chinchilla is NOT (unless you know people who eat Mink and Chinchilla....)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on December 06, 2011, 03:25:33 PM
Plastic. ( I mean : my shoes, my coat...)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 06, 2011, 03:31:23 PM
You guys are all vegetarians?
To me sacrificing an animal it's the same no matter it's for fur, leather or my dinner.

Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: trublu on December 06, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
Yes I am Gina.
In any case, killing to EAT and killing for FASHION are different I think.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 06, 2011, 03:44:28 PM
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Yes I am Gina.
In any case, killing to EAT and killing for FASHION are different I think.
Oh I wish I could be a vegetarian too. Maybe some day.
I don't see the difference as long as the poor animal ends the same -DEAD.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: trublu on December 06, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
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Yes I am Gina.
In any case, killing to EAT and killing for FASHION are different I think.
Oh I wish I could be a vegetarian too. Maybe some day.
I don't see the difference as long as the poor animal ends the same -DEAD.

Well the difference is that eating is essential, and not everyone can afford to supplement the protein found in meat with other alternatives, and fur is used for fashion and vanity. If there were no other alternatives to keep warm I would understand, but the fact is, killing an animal (the more endangered the species the better apparently), is for people to show off their wealth. I am also against using slave labour to create Rolex watches FYI.
Yes we humans are at the top of the food (and fashion) chain, you just would have thought that us humans could have learnt not to kill and torture our fellow animals on this planet in the name of fashion.
Rant over :)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on December 06, 2011, 03:58:05 PM
Sacrificing an animal it*s the same, I think so too. Vegetable protein is cheaper than meat.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 06, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
Killing animals to eat them is not essential for surviving...well maybe just in very cold areas where there are no vegetable.

The Bible says in Genesis God gave man all green food to eat. So....we should eat what we were "designed" for. But later I don't know what happened that people were allowed to eat meat. Well in Genesis there is also written that God gave men control over the animals, but didn't specify in what way - to eat them or just control them?
Fact is many people could survive with vegan food but we do choose to eat meat because we like the taste, right?

Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: trublu on December 06, 2011, 04:42:33 PM
No you're right, killing animals to eat them is not essential for survival- hence my decision to be a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 06, 2011, 05:17:27 PM
First when I read the title of this thread I was hoping it was a faux fur campaign by Janet :? Apparently it's not :( Too bad.

Fur is OUT
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fur-stays-out-of-fashion-with-high-street-customers-1245161.html and faux fur is HOT this fall/winter and even better you can wear it without any guilt :)

http://www.accesshollywood.com/video_852222
http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/star-style/fashion-hot-trends/516395/go-with-the-faux/1
http://blog.celebritystyleguide.com/2011-12-06/go-buy-now-faux-fur/

Sorry Janet but (real) fur is OUT and faux fur would look better on you ;D

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 06, 2011, 08:26:10 PM
I won't comment on the animal fur but I think she's beautiful and it doesn't look like it's overly photo shopped. I think she absolutely belongs in the list among the other legends and I enjoyed looking at all of the pictures (minus the fur).

I think until Janet has a chance to explain herself we should cautiously hold our judgment. But that's just my view.

Blessings
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: PureLove on December 06, 2011, 08:39:11 PM
People can wear fake leather and fake fur. Why need to kill poor animals for it? I can understand why everyone can not become vegetarians but do they need to wear fur and leather? This is still such a big shame for Janet. I didn't like what she is doing and will never support her about this issue. I actually wrote to her how I feel about this issue.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on December 06, 2011, 09:32:48 PM
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You guys are all vegetarians?
To me sacrificing an animal it's the same no matter it's for fur, leather or my dinner.



I'd rather shoot a deer in the head with a cross bow, eat it for nourishment, than to hang an animal upside down and skin it while its still alive just to look 'cool'.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: MJonmind on December 06, 2011, 10:15:52 PM


Gina, FYI!

Genesis 9:1-7
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And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth [upon] the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.


There is MUCH suffering and death in this world, and this is according to God's plan.
Romans 8:22.
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For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.


But in the coming future age, there will be peace-- not that we shouldn't try to illuminate as much suffering as we can now.

Isaiah 11:6-9
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6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
   the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling[a (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+11&version=NIV#fen-NIV-17891a)
] together;
   and a little child will lead them.
7 The cow will feed with the bear,
   their young will lie down together,
   and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
8 The infant will play near the cobra’s den,
   and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.
9 They will neither harm nor destroy
   on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the LORD
   as the waters cover the sea.


IMO, I wear some leather shoes/boots, eat some meat, and also love my dog and cat, the beauty of all God's creatures.  I realize we all have to die at some point, and in the wild there is suffering before being eaten by some other creature. I just think we should always strive to be humane and responsible as possible. I respect those who feel passionately about protecting animals and the environment, because I do think God gave us the planet to care for it.



I don't know or follow Janet, but  MJ loves her as his sister, so I love her as well.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: BeTheChange on December 06, 2011, 11:29:16 PM
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I won't comment on the animal fur but I think she's beautiful and it doesn't look like it's overly photo shopped. I think she absolutely belongs in the list among the other legends and I enjoyed looking at all of the pictures (minus the fur).

I think until Janet has a chance to explain herself we should cautiously hold our judgment. But that's just my view.

Blessings

I agree.  I don't think anyone is in any position to judge.  If we only knew the full extent of the human suffering (and the full effect on 'nature') that goes into the 'gadgets' we enjoy...judgement would cease, and quickly. 

I won't be the one to throw the first stone.

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 06, 2011, 11:54:25 PM
Well this confirms my fears...Janet is an illuminati puppet...she has no choice in the matter..

If you research the blog "mindcontrolblackassasins", you will see that Janet doesn't have to strength to go against them...  Michael stood up to them, as we all know.

This to me, has a definite "Shock afraid/ " effect....which can only suggest we do our research. 

She is totally controlled by the illuminati, and cannot escape...  It doesn't matter what your beliefs are...you have to do what your told, as long as it fits in with their plan.  Eg.  the exposed breast with the illuminati nipple ring....
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 07, 2011, 12:44:14 AM
MJonmind, why I remember it different? I go check my Bible now.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 07, 2011, 12:49:05 AM
OK I know now.
Read Genesis 1:28/-29
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
    29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.


So I don't know why God changed the rule from Genesis 1 to Genesis 9, but it was a change as I see it.
In the beginning God gave men only the green food.

Maybe the change has something to do with losing the acces to Paradise.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: hope on December 07, 2011, 01:12:15 AM
OMG.......First of all, when animals are killed for food, they are killed instantly, not tortured to their death BIG difference. Second, the US fur trade is with China. Have any of you actually watched the documentary of the hidden camera footage of the routine "Torture and Kill" days of puppies, kittens, rabbits, even dalmations etc in China? It is sickening, and I can guarentee janet has never seen it, or she wouldnt be doing this. But, there is no way she cant be aware of it either. These animals are tortured in disgusting living areas until the fateful day they are old enough or shiny enough for a sleeve or a collar on a coat. They are hung on hooks, throats slit and started to be skinned before they die. I am so sick of some people saying THAT is the same thing as someone eating a steak from a cow that was killed instantly. Those cows never know what hits them, chickens the same. I lived on a farm and because I know how they are killed, I do eat meat. But if they were slaughtered like these innocent creatures, then no, I wouldnt.
So, I love Michael, but right now I cant stand the sight of Janet over this. And I dont feel like I should have to just because of him. If you havent watched the documentary, maybe you should before you compare the killings for food and fur and leather. If you have watched it, and still feel its the same, then thats your right. Sorry , but once you see something like that, its forever embedded in your mind.  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 07, 2011, 01:34:34 AM
Maybe it's not exactly the same, anyway I don't agree with any of them.
Actually on Easter my father-in-law buys lambs and sacrifices them and believe me please, I can not eat a bite of that lamb if I see it while still alive. My mother-in-law was mad with me, thinking I have something against them because I don't want to eat it but the fact is I felt like vomiting only at the smell of it, it's terrible to see the animal alive and then to eat it. At least for me.

Well my husband sometimes brings home alive fish and we end up fighting every time and not speaking to each other for days because he asks me every time that I should prepare the fish and he doesn't believe me that I can not stand to touch those fishes, it makes me sick, I feel like vomiting as I write here, only thinking about it.

So yes, for me it's the same, absolutely the same thing.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on December 07, 2011, 02:04:52 AM
I still don*t understand : why eat meat ? Maybe some will really think about it and realise !?
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: sigh on December 07, 2011, 02:12:35 AM
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Well this confirms my fears...Janet is an illuminati puppet...she has no choice in the matter..


WTH ??
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: sigh on December 07, 2011, 02:13:26 AM
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I still don*t understand : why eat meat ? Maybe some will really think about it and realise !?

Ever heard of food chain ?
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Delia on December 07, 2011, 02:19:30 AM
We humans live in an artificial environment, apart from food chain. We have the privilege to choose.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 07, 2011, 02:22:26 AM
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I still don*t understand : why eat meat ? Maybe some will really think about it and realise !?

I guess as long as there are people who survive quite well and are even healthier without meat...I don't know.
After not eating meat for some time you really don't feel the need for it anymore. But doctors in general think we should eat meat.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: applehead250609 on December 07, 2011, 02:29:59 AM
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People can wear fake leather and fake fur. Why need to kill poor animals for it? I can understand why everyone can not become vegetarians but do they need to wear fur and leather? This is still such a big shame for Janet. I didn't like what she is doing and will never support her about this issue. I actually wrote to her how I feel about this issue.

Pure Love I agree with you,my friend.And I don't need any more proof ,in fact I despise any brand they showed there,in Janet commercial:dior,versace or armani.All these people use fur for their cloth-line  :( .

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/18/article-1148485-038F4A19000005DC-199_468x432.jpg)

I know Michael was/is good friend with Versace and Armani,in fact Versace was the one who created the famous Gold Pants for Michael.I don't have any clothes with this brands and I will never have ,lol  lolol/ ,because I wear what I like and not what Tv or fashion tolds me to,PERIOD.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rUyDhdZLna8/SkTmlsQaKoI/AAAAAAAAM_o/ZPTBWOIpDv8/s400/MJ+%26+Versace_jpg.jpg)

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Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Aidan_81 on December 07, 2011, 05:19:47 AM
All I can say, I believe humans should reduce suffering on this planet.
Any suffering. Reduce, not increase. We can do it, no one else.
Why blindly following the books when you can get better than this by making
world less bloody right now. It's so easy! Just stop.
And unlike predators in the wild, us modern humans have a choice.
Once on a deserted island all alone with just an axe, of course many things
are justified for survival as it's our wild part acting to stay alive.
But in a city, within society, surrounded by choices, humans can be better than
that. We are humans, we have that special brain and we can be repulsed by suffering
of other life forms. If repulsed, why adding to that? We can start creating peaceful
environment right now. Yes, wild animals will keep hunting because they are
predators and have nothing but instincts, but artificially created suffering is horrible.
It's a shame. It should not be done. Just IMHO.

Janet maybe had no choice, we know nothing about the world, the circle she functions in,
maybe she's not thinking for herself anymore, maybe she does what she
was told to, we don't know. I don't "hate" her for promoting mass-murder industry,
I more like feel sorry for her and it saddens me. Yes, we sure "project" our high
 expectations on every single Jackson, which is a big mistake maybe :roll:

Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 07, 2011, 06:31:28 AM
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Yes, we sure "project" our high
 expectations on every single Jackson, which is a big mistake maybe :roll:

I like this.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 07:53:07 AM
This cheers me up:

Quote
One of  Janet Jackson's longtime fans is so disgusted by the singer's decision to launch a fur line he's selling his memorabilia collection in protest.

Animal lover Sean Oltersdorf of Michigan has teamed with animal rights activists at PETA to auction off 25 years' worth of Janet collectibles after learning Jackson has teamed up with fur company Blackglama and plans to release a new line of pelts later this year.

He says, "I am a long-time Janet Jackson fan - or I should say I used to be. I am disgusted and have decided I want to auction off my entire 25 years-plus of Janet items and donate the proceeds to PETA.

"I have three rescued chinchillas and find Janet's decision reprehensible."

Oltersdorf's collection, which includes posters, magazines, photos, vinyl and more, will be placed on eBay.com next week.

Jackson's luxury mink collection, which features 15 items ranging from coats to gloves, is due to be released in high-end retailers later this month.

Jackson came under fire from animal-rights campaigners last year after she modelled mink items in an ad campaign for the brand.
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/24/super-fan-snubs-janet-jackson-over-fur

In case you want to bid, here's the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Janet-Jackson-Better-NAKED-than-Nasty-/270863824780?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f10bdf78c

The price isn't all too high at the moment, sadly. Maybe people just don't care about Janet anymore. (She doesn't really deserve any better, I guess.)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: PureLove on December 08, 2011, 09:09:26 AM
Quote
One of  Janet Jackson's longtime fans is so disgusted by the singer's decision to launch a fur line he's selling his memorabilia collection in protest.

Animal lover Sean Oltersdorf of Michigan has teamed with animal rights activists at PETA to auction off 25 years' worth of Janet collectibles after learning Jackson has teamed up with fur company Blackglama and plans to release a new line of pelts later this year.

He says, "I am a long-time Janet Jackson fan - or I should say I used to be. I am disgusted and have decided I want to auction off my entire 25 years-plus of Janet items and donate the proceeds to PETA.

"I have three rescued chinchillas and find Janet's decision reprehensible."

Oltersdorf's collection, which includes posters, magazines, photos, vinyl and more, will be placed on eBay.com next week.

Jackson's luxury mink collection, which features 15 items ranging from coats to gloves, is due to be released in high-end retailers later this month.

 /bravo/
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 08, 2011, 09:19:03 AM
Would we please stop judging Janet here please???
I really feel bad about this, not that I encourage the killing of the animals for their fur. I don't agree with this but I also don't like to see we judge her.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 09:45:04 AM
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Would we please stop judging Janet here please???
I really feel bad about this, not that I encourage the killing of the animals for their fur. I don't agree with this but I also don't like to see we judge her.

I understand you're worried. I don't like judging people either, but nor do I like sugarcoating things. It is my opinion that when somebody does something essentially wrong, it has to be pointed out. Otherwise people would never see they're making a mistake.

I don't think any of us is judging Janet, just her decision to support the cruel fur industry. We're not asking for her to be burned at the stake, we're merely criticizing her behavior.

Please don't forget about the thousands of animals who will have to give their lives for Janet's fur line. In my opinion, lives are more important than somebody's freedom of expression, especially when they feel it is alright to wear coats made of a hundred innocent living creatures as a fashion statement. She needs to be criticized about this, not judged but severely criticized.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: RK on December 08, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
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The shockingly sad truth is that one fur coat alone requires the lives of 40 minks, 40 foxes, and more than 100 chinchillas. Swallow that - this is just ONE coat.
50 million animals a year are slaughtered for the fashion industry. As a passionate animal rights advocate, I can not keep quiet.
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The Janet Jackson fur controversy
by Shannon Boone

Janet Jackson is an American born singer and actress who has always prided herself on setting her own trends and doing what makes her happy rather than trying to appeal to the needs of others and their opinions.  So, it really was not much of a surprise when she decided to participate in the BlackGlama fur advertisement knowing that her appearance could receive potential backlash.

BlackGlama is a fashion brand specializing in Black mink products.  As stated on BlackGlama’s website, BlackGlama is “World renowned for their unbridled luxury and elegance.  BlackGlama products are created from the finest materials.  Each BlackGlama skin is hand selected, with less than 2% of the world’s Black mink population being deemed worthy of the BlackGlama name.

”Many people and groups have spoken out in disgust, against Janet Jackson’s participation in the BlackGlama fur advisement.  Actress Pamela Anderson has even gotten in on the controversy, calling Janet Jackson “greedy” for taking a job promoting fur.  She also stated, “It’s disappointing.  She has spoken out against fur before.  I don’t know why some people stop listening to their heart.  I guess some people get greedy, but it’s sad.”  Along with Pamela Anderson, PETA has also taken a stand against Janet Jackson and her participation in the ad campaign. 

PETA is an organization whose name stands for “People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals”.  This non-profit organization employs roughly 300 people, but is supported by millions more.  The intent of the group is to focus on four core issues, opposition to fur farming, factory farming, animal testing, and animals in entertainment.  One of the things that PETA has done to grow awareness to its cause is its establishment of its own campaign.  “I’d rather go naked than wear fur”.  Countless celebrities have participated in this ad campaign such as Nia Long, Khloe Kardashian, and Eva Mendes. 

Recently, PETA’s Senior Vice President Dan Mathews issued a statement directed specifically towards Janet Jackson. “You and I spoke at length about the fur issue.  You told me you were always aggravated at photo shoots when stylists would try to throw fur on you and that you were even wary of wearing fake fur out of concern that it might actually be real or look real in photos and sent ht wrong message.  You were very straightforward and sensible about it.  What happened?”

To date, Janet Jackson has not commented on the “fur controversy”, and her BlackGlama ads are expected to appear in the September issues of Vogue, Harper’s Bazaar, W, and many other fashion magazines.  The ad is also set to be displayed on a billboard in New York City’s Time Square.

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Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: reveron1958 on December 08, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
 /overreacting/

I don't like this 'we should not be judging Janet' line of thought. If we are not fit to judge Janet, perhaps we are not fit to judge anyone?  /judge/
I bet if it was Aguillera, Madonna or GaGa there would not be these kinds of comments. smiley_spider


Nobody is saying she should be executed or anything, as far as I can see those who oppose killing God's creatures for Fashion are just expressing their distaste.   respect/
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: RK on December 08, 2011, 10:51:37 AM
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Recently, PETA’s Senior Vice President Dan Mathews issued a statement directed specifically towards Janet Jackson. “You and I spoke at length about the fur issue.  You told me you were always aggravated at photo shoots when stylists would try to throw fur on you and that you were even wary of wearing fake fur out of concern that it might actually be real or look real in photos and sent ht wrong message.  You were very straightforward and sensible about it.  What happened?”
I wonder what happened too. The mention of Pammie Anderson brings to my mind  her friendship with Michael...and there is this article where the vice president of PETA recalls a dialogue he has had previously with Janet about wearing fur. I guess I hold a secret hope that this is a set up / sting for the fur industry. Imagine the backlash and media frenzy this could generate if Janet publicly changes her stance on this and exposes this industry for what it is. Maybe it is just a pipe dream.....but you know......how about it Janet? There is still time to make that change...Sure there will be law suits, but there will be free publicity and many new young fans won in the process.  And for what it's worth...my respect once again.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Wow....just wow.

#EPICFAIL


.....and I'm not talking about Janet Jackson either.


Funny how some people on this thread are quick to say "we're not judging" , yet have judgemental commentary up and down this thread.

...and some even claim to be in the "Army of L.O.V.E"  :roll:


Glad to know Michael would be so proud to see these thread posters going after his own sister with hanging ropes and torches!(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/misc/smiley-vault-misc-003.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)


...was it poor judgement on her part? Yes...she's human.


Quit throwing rocks!


Lest I remind you, some of you sound like the media did the day after Michael dangled Blanket from the hotel balcony...and determined he was an unfit father and didn't deserve his kids.

...again, was it poor judgement? Yes... but he's human


You have YOUR BELIEFS about animal fur, which you are entitled to...but take care to put Janet on blast for YOUR BELIEFS.



It is both unproductive and malicious.




...and if anyone wants to take personal exception with what I'm saying, you can PM me...I'll be waiting! ::)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 08, 2011, 11:54:53 AM
"I bet if it was Aguillera, Madonna or GaGa there would not be these kinds of comments. "

You are right about this. Janet is special because she is Michael's sister. Doesn't sound fair I know, but that's how I feel.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
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Wow....just wow.

#EPICFAIL


.....and I'm not talking about Janet Jackson either.


Funny how some people on this thread are quick to say "we're not judging" , yet have judgemental commentary up and down this thread.

...and some even claim to be in the "Army of L.O.V.E"  :roll:


Glad to know Michael would be so proud to see these thread posters going after his own sister with hanging ropes and torches!(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/misc/smiley-vault-misc-003.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/)


...was it poor judgement on her part? Yes...she's human.


Quit throwing rocks!


Lest I remind you, some of you sound like the media did the day after Michael dangled Blanket from the hotel balcony...and determined he was an unfit father and didn't deserve his kids.

...again, was it poor judgement? Yes... but he's human


You have YOUR BELIEFS about animal fur, which you are entitled to...but take care to put Janet on blast for YOUR BELIEFS.



It is both unproductive and malicious.



...and if anyone wants to take personal exception with what I'm saying, you can PM me...I'll be waiting! ::)

Don't you think you're overreacting a little? Nobody, nobody in this thread has thrown any rocks at Janet. Some people value the lives of living creatures more than someone's freedom to do whatever the heck they want to at the expense of others - thousands of innocent animals in this case. We are appalled and disgusted about Janet's behavior, and if you want to call that "judging", so be it. If criticizing someone for promoting the killings of thousands upon thousands of animals to make a quick buck is judgemental, then being judgemental is just the right thing, if you ask me. However, I tend to disagree about the meaning of that term.

Yes, Michael was judged for dangling Blanket over the balcony. That was not nice. But let me show you the difference: As Michael himself said, he got caught up in the excitement of the moment. When Janet got together with Blackglama for the first campaign, did she get caught up in the excitement of the moment? How about when she did the second campaign? And how about when she decided to launch her own fur line with Blackglama, knowing well that thousands of animals will be killed in her name? Yes, I guess she just got caught up in the excitement.

Poor Janet. I can't believe I criticized her about this. We all make mistakes, being responsible for a bunch of animals being slaughtered for vanity and money really is no big deal at all.

P.S.: When you're attacking us for "judging" Janet, when you point out the media was wrong for judging Michael, what are you doing? You're criticizing our behavior, the media's behavior, as we're criticizing Janet's. When you think it's wrong and judgemental to simply point out that somebody is wrong about something, then you shouldn't be trying to tell us right either. "#EPICFAIL", right?
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 12:48:07 PM
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Don't you think you're overreacting a little? Nobody, nobody in this thread has thrown any rocks at Janet. Some people value the lives of living creatures more than someone's freedom to do whatever the heck they want to at the expense of others - thousands of innocent animals in this case. We are appalled and disgusted about Janet's behavior, and if you want to call that "judging", so be it. If criticizing someone for promoting the killings of thousands upon thousands of animals to make a quick buck is judgemental, then being judgemental is just the right thing, if you ask me. However, I tend to disagree about the meaning of that term.

Yes, Michael was judged for dangling Blanket over the balcony. That was not nice. But let me show you the difference: As Michael himself said, he got caught up in the excitement of the moment. When Janet got together with Blackglama for the first campaign, did she get caught up in the excitement of the moment? How about when she did the second campaign? And how about when she decided to launch her own fur line with Blackglama, knowing well that thousands of animals will be killed in her name? Yes, I guess she just got caught up in the excitement.

Poor Janet. I can't believe I criticized her about this. We all make mistakes, being responsible for a bunch of animals being slaughtered for vanity and money really is no big deal at all.

P.S.: When you're attacking us for "judging" Janet, when you point out the media was wrong for judging Michael, what are you doing? You're criticizing our behavior, the media's behavior, as we're criticizing Janet's. When you think it's wrong and judgemental to simply point out that somebody is wrong about something, then you shouldn't be trying to tell us right either. "#EPICFAIL", right?



I stand on my statement, and I will reiterate one major point I made about this thread...


It is both unproductive and malicious.


Show me where criticizing Janet's decision has stopped cruelty against animals?
(waiting :|)

Other than judging her for her behavior what have YOU done to educate people about and encourage them to take a stand against animal cruelty?


Anyone can sit back and throw words around or criticize someone's decisions, be it right or wrong, permanent or "in the moment".

.....but what have YOU done to stop animal cruelty?


It is easy to criticize what someone did wrong...a better person would spend time trying to fix the problem!
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 01:13:29 PM
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Don't you think you're overreacting a little? Nobody, nobody in this thread has thrown any rocks at Janet. Some people value the lives of living creatures more than someone's freedom to do whatever the heck they want to at the expense of others - thousands of innocent animals in this case. We are appalled and disgusted about Janet's behavior, and if you want to call that "judging", so be it. If criticizing someone for promoting the killings of thousands upon thousands of animals to make a quick buck is judgemental, then being judgemental is just the right thing, if you ask me. However, I tend to disagree about the meaning of that term.

Yes, Michael was judged for dangling Blanket over the balcony. That was not nice. But let me show you the difference: As Michael himself said, he got caught up in the excitement of the moment. When Janet got together with Blackglama for the first campaign, did she get caught up in the excitement of the moment? How about when she did the second campaign? And how about when she decided to launch her own fur line with Blackglama, knowing well that thousands of animals will be killed in her name? Yes, I guess she just got caught up in the excitement.

Poor Janet. I can't believe I criticized her about this. We all make mistakes, being responsible for a bunch of animals being slaughtered for vanity and money really is no big deal at all.

P.S.: When you're attacking us for "judging" Janet, when you point out the media was wrong for judging Michael, what are you doing? You're criticizing our behavior, the media's behavior, as we're criticizing Janet's. When you think it's wrong and judgemental to simply point out that somebody is wrong about something, then you shouldn't be trying to tell us right either. "#EPICFAIL", right?



I stand on my statement, and I will reiterate one major point I made about this thread...


It is both unproductive and malicious.


Show me where criticizing Janet's decision has stopped cruelty against animals?
(waiting :|)

Other than judging her for her behavior what have YOU done to educate people about and encourage them to take a stand against animal cruelty?


Anyone can sit back and throw words around or criticize someone's decisions, be it right or wrong, permanent or "in the moment".

.....but what have YOU done to stop animal cruelty?

Voicing your opinion is never malicious, unless you're offensive. Nor is it unproductive, as you might reach somebody with a similar opinion or even convince somebody about something you care about.

What I do to stop animal cruelty? Sorry, I don't really see how this has anything to do with my right to criticize someone who's making money selling a bunch of 'fashionable' dead animals. One thing to do against animal cruelty is, for example, to NOT wear, buy or promote fur. Anyway, in case you're serious and you really want to know, I do not wear fur, I'm a vegetarian, I donate to animal welfare organizations and I even used to be a PETA member. I speak out against animal cruelty whenever I can, as I've been doing on this thread. In case you haven't seen, I've also posted information about how many animals are killed for one fur coat to make people aware of the extent of this issue. And even if I'm not reaching anyone with what I say against fur and against Janet's decision to cash in on this barbaric industry, I will never ever keep silent about it because I simply consider shutting your mouth and saying "yes and Amen" to everything people do (including Michael's little sister) WRONG and insipid.

Nobody's been attacking Janet on this thread, calling her names or throwing rotten tomatoes at her. However, when you're passionate about something, you will not keep quiet even if nobody's listening. The reason behind this thread was not to stone Janet nor was it to change the world. If people can be reached, fine, if not, fine.

And I can't believe I'm defending myself. Not wearing fur and cashing in on it is enough to entitle you the right to criticize somebody for doing the opposite, and everybody has a right to voice that opinion. That is not malicious or unproductive, it's simply right. And you know a very good reason why? BECAUSE ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE A VOICE.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 01:26:11 PM
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Don't you think you're overreacting a little? Nobody, nobody in this thread has thrown any rocks at Janet. Some people value the lives of living creatures more than someone's freedom to do whatever the heck they want to at the expense of others - thousands of innocent animals in this case. We are appalled and disgusted about Janet's behavior, and if you want to call that "judging", so be it. If criticizing someone for promoting the killings of thousands upon thousands of animals to make a quick buck is judgemental, then being judgemental is just the right thing, if you ask me. However, I tend to disagree about the meaning of that term.

Yes, Michael was judged for dangling Blanket over the balcony. That was not nice. But let me show you the difference: As Michael himself said, he got caught up in the excitement of the moment. When Janet got together with Blackglama for the first campaign, did she get caught up in the excitement of the moment? How about when she did the second campaign? And how about when she decided to launch her own fur line with Blackglama, knowing well that thousands of animals will be killed in her name? Yes, I guess she just got caught up in the excitement.

Poor Janet. I can't believe I criticized her about this. We all make mistakes, being responsible for a bunch of animals being slaughtered for vanity and money really is no big deal at all.

P.S.: When you're attacking us for "judging" Janet, when you point out the media was wrong for judging Michael, what are you doing? You're criticizing our behavior, the media's behavior, as we're criticizing Janet's. When you think it's wrong and judgemental to simply point out that somebody is wrong about something, then you shouldn't be trying to tell us right either. "#EPICFAIL", right?



I stand on my statement, and I will reiterate one major point I made about this thread...


It is both unproductive and malicious.


Show me where criticizing Janet's decision has stopped cruelty against animals?
(waiting :|)

Other than judging her for her behavior what have YOU done to educate people about and encourage them to take a stand against animal cruelty?


Anyone can sit back and throw words around or criticize someone's decisions, be it right or wrong, permanent or "in the moment".

.....but what have YOU done to stop animal cruelty?

Voicing your opinion is never malicious, unless you're offensive. Nor is it unproductive, as you might reach somebody with a similar opinion or even convince somebody about something you care about.

What I do to stop animal cruelty? Sorry, I don't really see how this has anything to do with my right to criticize someone who's making money selling a bunch of 'fashionable' dead animals. One thing to do against animal cruelty is, for example, to NOT wear, buy or promote fur. Anyway, in case you're serious and you really want to know, I do not wear fur, I'm a vegetarian, I donate to animal welfare organizations and I even used to be a PETA member. I speak out against animal cruelty whenever I can, as I've been doing on this thread. In case you haven't seen, I've also posted information about how many animals are killed for one fur coat to make people aware of the extent of this issue. And even if I'm not reaching anyone with what I say against fur and against Janet's decision to cash in on this barbaric industry, I will never ever keep silent about it because I simply consider shutting your mouth and saying "yes and Amen" to everything people do (including Michael's little sister) WRONG and insipid.

Nobody's been attacking Janet on this thread, calling her names or throwing rotten tomatoes at her. However, when you're passionate about something, you will not keep quiet even if nobody's listening. The reason behind this thread was not to stone Janet nor was it to change the world. If people can be reached, fine, if not, fine.

And I can't believe I'm defending myself. Not wearing fur and cashing in on it is enough to entitle you the right to criticize somebody for doing the opposite, and everybody has a right to voice that opinion. That is not malicious or unproductive, it's simply right. And you know a very good reason why? BECAUSE ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE A VOICE.

Perhaps you may want to consider starting an animal rights forum. Clearly this is something yourself and others are passionate about. It would do the animal rights cause more justice than here on a HOAX forum.




p.s. I have also responded to your PM. typing/
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 01:38:16 PM
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Don't you think you're overreacting a little? Nobody, nobody in this thread has thrown any rocks at Janet. Some people value the lives of living creatures more than someone's freedom to do whatever the heck they want to at the expense of others - thousands of innocent animals in this case. We are appalled and disgusted about Janet's behavior, and if you want to call that "judging", so be it. If criticizing someone for promoting the killings of thousands upon thousands of animals to make a quick buck is judgemental, then being judgemental is just the right thing, if you ask me. However, I tend to disagree about the meaning of that term.

Yes, Michael was judged for dangling Blanket over the balcony. That was not nice. But let me show you the difference: As Michael himself said, he got caught up in the excitement of the moment. When Janet got together with Blackglama for the first campaign, did she get caught up in the excitement of the moment? How about when she did the second campaign? And how about when she decided to launch her own fur line with Blackglama, knowing well that thousands of animals will be killed in her name? Yes, I guess she just got caught up in the excitement.

Poor Janet. I can't believe I criticized her about this. We all make mistakes, being responsible for a bunch of animals being slaughtered for vanity and money really is no big deal at all.

P.S.: When you're attacking us for "judging" Janet, when you point out the media was wrong for judging Michael, what are you doing? You're criticizing our behavior, the media's behavior, as we're criticizing Janet's. When you think it's wrong and judgemental to simply point out that somebody is wrong about something, then you shouldn't be trying to tell us right either. "#EPICFAIL", right?



I stand on my statement, and I will reiterate one major point I made about this thread...


It is both unproductive and malicious.


Show me where criticizing Janet's decision has stopped cruelty against animals?
(waiting :|)

Other than judging her for her behavior what have YOU done to educate people about and encourage them to take a stand against animal cruelty?


Anyone can sit back and throw words around or criticize someone's decisions, be it right or wrong, permanent or "in the moment".

.....but what have YOU done to stop animal cruelty?

Voicing your opinion is never malicious, unless you're offensive. Nor is it unproductive, as you might reach somebody with a similar opinion or even convince somebody about something you care about.

What I do to stop animal cruelty? Sorry, I don't really see how this has anything to do with my right to criticize someone who's making money selling a bunch of 'fashionable' dead animals. One thing to do against animal cruelty is, for example, to NOT wear, buy or promote fur. Anyway, in case you're serious and you really want to know, I do not wear fur, I'm a vegetarian, I donate to animal welfare organizations and I even used to be a PETA member. I speak out against animal cruelty whenever I can, as I've been doing on this thread. In case you haven't seen, I've also posted information about how many animals are killed for one fur coat to make people aware of the extent of this issue. And even if I'm not reaching anyone with what I say against fur and against Janet's decision to cash in on this barbaric industry, I will never ever keep silent about it because I simply consider shutting your mouth and saying "yes and Amen" to everything people do (including Michael's little sister) WRONG and insipid.

Nobody's been attacking Janet on this thread, calling her names or throwing rotten tomatoes at her. However, when you're passionate about something, you will not keep quiet even if nobody's listening. The reason behind this thread was not to stone Janet nor was it to change the world. If people can be reached, fine, if not, fine.

And I can't believe I'm defending myself. Not wearing fur and cashing in on it is enough to entitle you the right to criticize somebody for doing the opposite, and everybody has a right to voice that opinion. That is not malicious or unproductive, it's simply right. And you know a very good reason why? BECAUSE ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE A VOICE.
Perhaps you may want to consider starting an animal rights forum. Clearly this is something yourself and others are passionate about. It would do the animal rights cause more justice than here on a HOAX forum.




p.s. I have also responded to your PM. typing/


Are you trying to say, "This is not the appropriate place to be speaking out against fur"? Janet fans tell you the same thing when you bring this up on her pages. See, the sad thing is, though... Animal rights forums are usually read by animal rights advocates. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by our rants but you're free to ignore them, you know? In my opinion, any place is the right place to criticize cruelty. The ones suffering from it will probably agree.

I hate fighting with people over the internet as to what can be said where and what can't. If Janet can wear fur in California, each and every one of us can be speaking out against that in each and every forum, any time, any place.

Peace.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: trublu on December 08, 2011, 01:49:36 PM
Well said Bee Bee.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 01:50:37 PM
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Perhaps you may want to consider starting an animal rights forum. Clearly this is something yourself and others are passionate about. It would do the animal rights cause more justice than here on a HOAX forum.

p.s. I have also responded to your PM. typing/


Are you trying to say, "This is not the appropriate place to be speaking out against fur"? Janet fans tell you the same thing when you bring this up on her pages. See, the sad thing is, though... Animal rights forums are usually read by animal rights advocates. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by our rants but you're free to ignore them, you know? In my opinion, any place is the right place to criticize cruelty. The ones suffering from it will probably agree.

I hate fighting with people over the internet as to what can be said where and what can't. If Janet can wear fur in California, each and every one of us can be speaking out against that in each and every forum, any time, any place.

Peace.


You're 100% right.

Why start a forum no one will pay attention to? Then again who knew anyone would pay attention to a Death Hoax forum....so why bother trying right?

My apologies for even attempting to find a solution to the problem.

Peace to you also. respect/
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 02:12:52 PM
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Perhaps you may want to consider starting an animal rights forum. Clearly this is something yourself and others are passionate about. It would do the animal rights cause more justice than here on a HOAX forum.

p.s. I have also responded to your PM. typing/


Are you trying to say, "This is not the appropriate place to be speaking out against fur"? Janet fans tell you the same thing when you bring this up on her pages. See, the sad thing is, though... Animal rights forums are usually read by animal rights advocates. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by our rants but you're free to ignore them, you know? In my opinion, any place is the right place to criticize cruelty. The ones suffering from it will probably agree.

I hate fighting with people over the internet as to what can be said where and what can't. If Janet can wear fur in California, each and every one of us can be speaking out against that in each and every forum, any time, any place.

Peace.


You're 100% right.

Why start a forum no one will pay attention to? Then again who knew anyone would pay attention to a Death Hoax forum....so why bother trying right?

My apologies for even attempting to find a solution to the problem.

Peace to you also. respect/

Well, you certainly paid attention. ;) Anyway, how would you know none of us has started an animal rights forum or is active in one?

Yes, peace. My bed's calling.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 02:22:59 PM
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Perhaps you may want to consider starting an animal rights forum. Clearly this is something yourself and others are passionate about. It would do the animal rights cause more justice than here on a HOAX forum.

p.s. I have also responded to your PM. typing/


Are you trying to say, "This is not the appropriate place to be speaking out against fur"? Janet fans tell you the same thing when you bring this up on her pages. See, the sad thing is, though... Animal rights forums are usually read by animal rights advocates. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by our rants but you're free to ignore them, you know? In my opinion, any place is the right place to criticize cruelty. The ones suffering from it will probably agree.

I hate fighting with people over the internet as to what can be said where and what can't. If Janet can wear fur in California, each and every one of us can be speaking out against that in each and every forum, any time, any place.

Peace.


You're 100% right.

Why start a forum no one will pay attention to? Then again who knew anyone would pay attention to a Death Hoax forum....so why bother trying right?

My apologies for even attempting to find a solution to the problem.

Peace to you also. respect/

Well, you certainly paid attention. ;) Anyway, how would you know none of us has started an animal rights forum or is active in one?

Yes, peace. My bed's calling.

If there is such a forum, I'd love to know about it and help promote it (as I'm sure others would also)  ;)
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 08, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
This is sickening. Janet, please don't. What's the difference between skinning an animal and skinning a child? You wouldn't skin a child.. right? How are animals any different? They don't have a voice, animal rights advocates are their voice. Why would anyone skin a defenseless, innocent creature from God just so they can look cute? ESPECIALLY when there's faux fur that looks/feels the same. I'm not going to judge Janet over this, and call her any names, but I do hope she realizes what she's doing and stops it. :cry:

I've cried so many tears over animal abuse, and I don't want someone I respect as much I respect Janet to be the cause of it.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 02:51:28 PM
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This is sickening. Janet, please don't. What's the difference between skinning an animal and skinning a child? You wouldn't skin a child.. right? How are animals any different? They don't have a voice, animal rights advocates are their voice. Why would anyone skin a defenseless, innocent creature from God just so they can look cute? ESPECIALLY when there's faux fur that looks/feels the same. I'm not going to judge Janet over this, and call her any names, but I do hope she realizes what she's doing and stops it. :cry:

I've cried so many tears over animal abuse, and I don't want someone I respect as much I respect Janet to be the cause of it.

Perhaps if fans "collectively" signed a petition addressing this issue, then something could be resolved.

While we could all sit here and individually express judgement and displeasure with Janet, but it all falls on "deaf ears" and nothing gets accomplished.

We don't need to know animal cruelty is wrong (preaching to the choir), THEY do!

It's more than just about Michael's plan to save the planet, it's EVERYTHING.

Things don't change on their own...we have to MAKE THINGS CHANGE.


Blackglama is an institution that has been supported for years by many celebrities....and no one calls them on their philosophy. :?
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Bee Bee on December 08, 2011, 03:40:19 PM
While I know it might be entirely useless, it is worth a try.

I've created a petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/janet-down-with-that-fur-let-compassion-rule/

Feels kind of stupid, as if Janet was the only person in the world responsible for the suffering of animals... But I do feel we have to reach her in a way. Wake her up. She supposedly cares about animals. If she has stopped caring, maybe she does care about her fans and her image? If we managed to get some people to sign, maybe she would realise she's on the wrong track.

Please sign.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 08, 2011, 03:41:11 PM
Personally, I'd say "I'd rather go naked than wear fur"  :lol: (I'm not a PETA-member btw)

The positive thing about this is that the fur issue is getting more attention now, because nobody expected Janet, being Michael's sister,  doing a fur fashion line with a little shock as a result, and not just amongst the fans. I just checked on the web and I noticed that discussions have started about Janet and fur and wearing fur in general (like we do on this thread), which I consider as awareness and that's good imho. 

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 08, 2011, 04:13:09 PM
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While I know it might be entirely useless, it is worth a try.

I've created a petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/janet-down-with-that-fur-let-compassion-rule/

Feels kind of stupid, as if Janet was the only person in the world responsible for the suffering of animals... But I do feel we have to reach her in a way. Wake her up. She supposedly cares about animals. If she has stopped caring, maybe she does care about her fans and her image? If we managed to get some people to sign, maybe she would realise she's on the wrong track.

Please sign.

Glad to sign...it's a step in the right direction!

If you believe it can be done, then it can be done!
 bearhug
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: PureLove on December 08, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
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While I know it might be entirely useless, it is worth a try.

I've created a petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/janet-down-with-that-fur-let-compassion-rule/

Feels kind of stupid, as if Janet was the only person in the world responsible for the suffering of animals... But I do feel we have to reach her in a way. Wake her up. She supposedly cares about animals. If she has stopped caring, maybe she does care about her fans and her image? If we managed to get some people to sign, maybe she would realise she's on the wrong track.

Please sign.

I've already signed it. Thank you for this beebee.  bow/  I agree with everything you wrote in your posts. I think we should let her know about how we feel about this issue. And a petition can work. That was the reason why I wrote to her about this. To whine and getting pissed at her here doesn't help anything or anyone.
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: reveron1958 on December 09, 2011, 10:43:18 AM
Signed  bearhug
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: applehead250609 on December 09, 2011, 03:03:54 PM
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While I know it might be entirely useless, it is worth a try.

I've created a petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/janet-down-with-that-fur-let-compassion-rule/

Feels kind of stupid, as if Janet was the only person in the world responsible for the suffering of animals... But I do feel we have to reach her in a way. Wake her up. She supposedly cares about animals. If she has stopped caring, maybe she does care about her fans and her image? If we managed to get some people to sign, maybe she would realise she's on the wrong track.

Please sign.

Thank you for this BEE ,I already signed and put a comment also :) !!!!
Title: Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 09, 2011, 04:25:32 PM
I am going to lock this thread. Not because I don't think that people should not be able to voice their opinions on this matter, but because this is a.) not hoax related and b.) could get out of hand.

I think everyone has voiced their opinion. I am an animal lover and I hate animals being killed for whatever reason. I eat meat, but hypocrite as I am, I don't want to know what it was before it ended up on my plate. I try to buy 'honest' meat, and I try to eat as less as possible.

That being said, after reading this thread, it turns out I am not the only hypocrite. If you think it's okay to kill an animal for meat, but not for his fur, then you are very wrong. First of all: we don't need meat. We can perfectly live a healthy life without it. Besides that, people who say that animals are killed instantly if they are killed for their meat, live in a bubble. Just Google transportation of animals for slaughter, or look at the life circumstances of some animals who are bred for consumption. Tip for those with a strong stomach: horse transportation from Italy. Talking about disgusting...

I think that Janet made a wrong decision with this, and I don't know why. But it's not up to us to judge. I love Janet, and I hope she will reconsider.

BTW: she looks smokin' hot in that picture.
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