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Title: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 30, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
MJ'S FAMILY
Post-Sentencing Bonding
... at 'X Factor' Taping
(http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/30/michael-jackson-family-x-factor/)
4 MINUTES AGO BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/30/1130-jackson-x-factor-ex.jpg)

Michael Jackson's family has gone from Judge Pastor to Judge Cowell -- TMZ has learned the ENTIRE Jackson clan just arrived to a taping of the "X Factor."

Paris, Prince, Blanket, Katherine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon just sat down in the front row for tonight's live taping on Los Angeles ... just one day after Conrad Murray got the book thrown at him for killing the King of Pop. 

So why the surprise appearance? We're told Katherine LOVES the show ... and tonight, the contestants will be singing some of MJ's greatest hits.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Andrea on November 30, 2011, 07:56:21 PM
New pic up:

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/30/1130-jackson-x-factor-ex-2.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: paula-c on November 30, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
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MJ'S FAMILY
Post-Sentencing Bonding
... at 'X Factor' Taping
(http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/30/michael-jackson-family-x-factor/)
4 MINUTES AGO BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/30/1130-jackson-x-factor-ex.jpg)

Michael Jackson's family has gone from Judge Pastor to Judge Cowell -- TMZ has learned the ENTIRE Jackson clan just arrived to a taping of the "X Factor."

Paris, Prince, Blanket, Katherine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon just sat down in the front row for tonight's live taping on Los Angeles ... just one day after Conrad Murray got the book thrown at him for killing the King of Pop. 

So why the surprise appearance? We're told Katherine LOVES the show ... and tonight, the contestants will be singing some of MJ's greatest hits.




I do not say something Harvey.... suspicious//



the family appear in groups of seven lolol/
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 30, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
Not by far the ENTIRE Jackson clan.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Andrea on November 30, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
Another new pic is up now, lol

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/30/113011-jackson-kids-ex-1.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Andrea on November 30, 2011, 08:00:59 PM
Love the orange and white Paris is wearing....
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: paula-c on November 30, 2011, 08:05:30 PM
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Another new pic is up now, lol

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/30/113011-jackson-kids-ex-1.jpg)









after a major event celebrating family appears and smiling smiley_spider
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: MJonmind on November 30, 2011, 08:38:12 PM

I wasn't really enjoying the performers singing MJ's songs until the last one Melanie Amero who sang Earth Song. She did a super job, putting her own style into it.
The kids looked great!

There's another similar thread.  http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21186.msg376238#top (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21186.msg376238#top)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: anewfan on November 30, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
I added this to the other thread. Here is a screen pic of the original tweet by TMZ. They changed it after a couple of minutes. I figured they would.

[embed=425,349][/embed]
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: bec on November 30, 2011, 08:53:50 PM
Yeah well they should show a pic of the Hatman sitting behind Katherine then.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: anewfan on November 30, 2011, 09:02:38 PM
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Yeah well they should show a pic of the Hatman sitting behind Katherine then.

I only saw him at the end. How about you? Someone else was there every other time they showed the Jackson's.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 30, 2011, 09:07:30 PM
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I added this to the other thread. Here is a screen pic of the original tweet by TMZ. They changed it after a couple of minutes. I figured they would.

[embed=425,349][/embed]
love how TMZ just enjoy messing with us... they seriously cant be making this many typos....  and how quick they edit or retract things...

 smiley_spider smiley_spider smiley_spider
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: ignisaeternus on November 30, 2011, 09:13:32 PM
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Yeah well they should show a pic of the Hatman sitting behind Katherine then.
I  am SOOOO glad you also noticed hatman!!!!! I thought I was going nuts!
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 30, 2011, 09:16:11 PM
is there a screen shot of hatman?
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Yambo3003 on November 30, 2011, 09:30:02 PM
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Yeah well they should show a pic of the Hatman sitting behind Katherine then.
I  am SOOOO glad you also noticed hatman!!!!! I thought I was going nuts!

 I thought I saw something too....jummm!
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 30, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
I did not see a hatman.. I saw the show tonight. I haven't seen anything conspicuous. The pictures you have posted I do not see any hatman in back of Katherine, I only see a bald man, drinking a bottle of water..

What I find bizzare, Chris Rene said that his grandfather was a producer of the motown, and they produced Michael Jackson song when he was a child. I was wondering why he always shows his tatoo BELIEVE   maybe he may know something. I am thinking out loud.. 
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 30, 2011, 09:33:22 PM
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Yeah well they should show a pic of the Hatman sitting behind Katherine then.
I  am SOOOO glad you also noticed hatman!!!!! I thought I was going nuts!

 I thought I saw something too....jummm!

I saw hatman too  suspicious//
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: anewfan on November 30, 2011, 09:40:01 PM
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I did not see a hatman.. I saw the show tonight. I haven't seen anything conspicuous. The pictures you have posted I do not see any hatman in back of Katherine, I only see a bald man, drinking a bottle of water..

What I find bizzare, Chris Rene said that his grandfather was a producer of the motown, and they produced Michael Jackson song when he was a child. I was wondering why he always shows his tatoo BELIEVE   maybe he may know something. I am thinking out loud.. 


I only saw him right at the end when they were talking to the Jackson's. Every other time it was the bald guy and Branca (I think that is who it was.)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: ignisaeternus on November 30, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
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I did not see a hatman.. I saw the show tonight. I haven't seen anything conspicuous. The pictures you have posted I do not see any hatman in back of Katherine, I only see a bald man, drinking a bottle of water..

What I find bizzare, Chris Rene said that his grandfather was a producer of the motown, and they produced Michael Jackson song when he was a child. I was wondering why he always shows his tatoo BELIEVE   maybe he may know something. I am thinking out loud.. 

You can't see him from that angle. He as only fully visible at the end of Earth Song, after the  camera panned to the family. If facing the tv, he was sitting to the right behind Katherine. He was partially visible in some other shots, but only fully in that last one. I kept wanting to push the nephew out of the way to get a better view. The world should work like a touch screen... :)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Ariel on November 30, 2011, 09:42:58 PM
I couldn't watch, but all videos are on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/user/xfactorfanxxx

Most performances did not sound that well. Never imagined "I'll be there" as a rap song. I am still happy they honored Michael.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 30, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
Hatman behind Katherine screenshot:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/j7rbq8.png)

At the end of this video: (Thank you Anna for the link to that channel)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxvjcIP0Yeg&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 30, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
So we're back to hatmans?

 /white flag/
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: anewfan on November 30, 2011, 09:56:17 PM
I thought it was interesting when they were talking about the Pepsi Commercial and they had "The Magic Begins...." then it went into the footage of Michael's Pepsi commercials.

They were talking about the "magic" of the winner being able to star in a Pepsi commercial just like MJ, but I liked the words.  rr/
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 30, 2011, 10:03:39 PM
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So we're back to hatmans?

 /white flag/

Pretty strange, he does look kind of funny looking, wearing sunglasses in a dark place.. Hmmmm!!!!
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 30, 2011, 10:07:17 PM
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So we're back to hatmans?

 /white flag/

thank you. is this definitely the same hatman as 09?
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 30, 2011, 10:15:29 PM
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So we're back to hatmans?

 /white flag/

thank you. is this definitely the same hatman as 09?

You know, I don't know and I really don't care. I thought we were past the hatmans and such. It's like it's starting all over again with the clues and I am not planning on going to drag pictures in Photoshop anymore. If this is what we will be getting for the next couple of months again, then I will be watching from the sideline. I'm past the clues really.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on November 30, 2011, 10:16:25 PM
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So we're back to hatmans?

 /white flag/

thank you. is this definitely the same hatman as 09?

No the hatman in memorial had white hair, this one you can't see his white hair. He can be someone in disguise who knows.. ;)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 30, 2011, 10:21:35 PM
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So we're back to hatmans?

 /white flag/

thank you. is this definitely the same hatman as 09?

No the hatman in memorial had white hair, this one you can't see his white hair. He can be someone in disguise who knows.. ;)

yes but the hat man in 09's hair was a disguise too right. (surely that hair was not real) so what are people thinking? its the same person with two different disguises, or two different people..

( :roll: :roll: :roll: i know, i am annoying even myself with this Q - sorry its just that i havent seen x factor)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Snoopy71 on November 30, 2011, 10:25:38 PM
......Hatman again?....oh dogfart! (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/dry.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

So now we're going back to the beginning with the clues? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sleep026.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)




....Yes MJ we know it's you....tell us something we don't know?! :roll:
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 30, 2011, 10:41:10 PM
re: hatman, he isnt a major concern of mine. i can assure you of that. i didnt raise it, i was just asking the Q as i thought i caught that it was being implied that it was the same hatman. so i was more clarifying what was meant. i really dont have an opinion on it. so i apologise if i irritated anyone by asking the Q

trust me, i am aware that there are more important things in this DH than hatman.  ;)


anyways, here is to moving on...  /bravo/
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: MJonmind on November 30, 2011, 10:52:25 PM
Blanket looked so bored.  Grandma, can I go play?
Prince and Paris look so at ease talking! They would make great showhosts!
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 01, 2011, 04:36:21 PM
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....oh dogfart!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 01, 2011, 04:43:43 PM
That hatman is Michael. To be more precise that hatman is Michael Joe Jackson, King Of Pop.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: bec on December 01, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
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That hatman is Michael. To be more precise that hatman is Michael Joe Jackson, King Of Pop.

Yes, probably in all certainty that is the case.

I am concerned that the presence of this Hatman version 2.0 indicates to us believers on day 888 that this is MJ's legacy-- the never ending death hoax legend.

MJ, I hate to break it to you... but this has already been done. Elvis beat you to it years ago.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Hilde on December 01, 2011, 06:47:24 PM
Bringing up the Hatman again is unnecessary, but the amb. pics are ok to bring up again? 
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: mindseye on December 01, 2011, 07:14:24 PM
Sorry I posted this screenshot in other x factor discussion. It's a clearer shot of hatman.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Dancer on December 01, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
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Never imagined "I'll be there" as a rap song. I am still happy they honored Michael.

Has anyone listened to the rap in Chris Rene's performance?
"For my kids I would do anything / Found a way to save my life"
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: anewfan on December 01, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
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Never imagined "I'll be there" as a rap song. I am still happy they honored Michael.

Has anyone listened to the rap in Chris Rene's performance?
"For my kids I would do anything / Found a way to save my life"

Yes...I thought that was interesting, because I think he only has one child (if I remember correctly) I rewound it a couple of times last night to listen to it carefully. I had the feeling that those words were MJ's.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: gwynned on December 01, 2011, 09:02:58 PM
I don't have any reception on my TV, so I could only watch parts of the show.  But did they actually play the original Pepsi commercial?  And isn't it a rather odd thing to play ANY Pepsi commercial in light of what happened to Michael?  And what about the apparent sponsorship of Coke for this 'movie.'
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on December 01, 2011, 09:37:41 PM
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Never imagined "I'll be there" as a rap song. I am still happy they honored Michael.

Has anyone listened to the rap in Chris Rene's performance?
"For my kids I would do anything / Found a way to save my life"

Yes...I thought that was interesting, because I think he only has one child (if I remember correctly) I rewound it a couple of times last night to listen to it carefully. I had the feeling that those words were MJ's.

He is referring to himself, he was an alcoholic, and a drug addict. He got his act together for his son.. It has nothing to do with Michael..
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: mikeyslittlehoaxer on December 01, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
On twitter Paris said that the reason Prince had the thing in his ear was because he it was for ca; he was accepting calls. She didn't say from who though.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: bec on December 01, 2011, 10:29:40 PM
Why did they call Chris Rene "The Trashcollector" before the break? And show him posing next to a big metal trashcan?
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 02, 2011, 05:47:22 AM
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On twitter Paris said that the reason Prince had the thing in his ear was because he it was for ca; he was accepting calls. She didn't say from who though.

He was accepting calls? :lol: He's 13!
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 07:15:12 AM
Hatman can actually be seen every time they zoom in on Mrs Jackson, even when they spoke to her in the beginning. I downloaded the whole episode and have seen her in many frames.

On another note, the host Steve Jones is Irish and its strange that Paris did not understand his question. Even though she has stayed in Ireland for a long time and should be familiar with that accent, kids usually are faster to understand accents than others.

Did anyone see Prince swinging the mike, he is really entertaining. And he shouted something about Las Vegas, maybe Hatman will make his next appearance there.

So if MJ was sitting next to Branca, that means they are cool right?
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 02, 2011, 08:49:32 AM
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On twitter Paris said that the reason Prince had the thing in his ear was because he it was for ca; he was accepting calls. She didn't say from who though.

He was accepting calls? :lol: He's 13!

When daddy calls, you answer! :lol:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2s60rqf.jpg)

Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
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That hatman is Michael. To be more precise that hatman is Michael Joe Jackson, King Of Pop.

Yes, probably in all certainty that is the case.

I am concerned that the presence of this Hatman version 2.0 indicates to us believers on day 888 that this is MJ's legacy-- the never ending death hoax legend.

MJ, I hate to break it to you... but this has already been done. Elvis beat you to it years ago.

Provoking MJ bec  ;D?
I'm not sure it works with him :lol:.
He's not sensitive to tears either crash/.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 02, 2011, 05:48:23 PM
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That hatman is Michael. To be more precise that hatman is Michael Joe Jackson, King Of Pop.

Yes, probably in all certainty that is the case.

I am concerned that the presence of this Hatman version 2.0 indicates to us believers on day 888 that this is MJ's legacy-- the never ending death hoax legend.

MJ, I hate to break it to you... but this has already been done. Elvis beat you to it years ago.

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

I guess we know who remains King.  :lol:


 elvis_/


....still love you though MJ  ;)
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 02, 2011, 06:37:45 PM
Snoopy.....

Michael > Elvis  :lol: :lol:  mj_bad/

No disrespect to Elvis, he's #2.  elvis_/
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: anewfan on December 02, 2011, 11:55:55 PM
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Why did they call Chris Rene "The Trashcollector" before the break? And show him posing next to a big metal trashcan?
I think that's his job in real life....a garbage collector.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: bec on December 03, 2011, 01:50:21 AM
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Why did they call Chris Rene "The Trashcollector" before the break? And show him posing next to a big metal trashcan?
I think that's his job in real life....a garbage collector.

Lol no kidding. Well that's funny.
Title: Re: MJ'S FAMILY Post-Sentencing Bonding ... at 'X Factor' Taping
Post by: MJonmind on December 03, 2011, 02:38:13 AM
In another thread Applehead (I think) posted a video of Chris Rene.   At 3:07  there is a note scrawled by MJ from long ago with that name on it.  Has this been discussed elsewhere?  Could someone put the screenshot of it here, because I'm still over my photobucket bandwidth crash/  ?  Thanks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUmKTesobJE&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUmKTesobJE&feature=player_embedded)


The note says this:
Quote
SoNg Work
Verdict
Ask Renea
All the TRUTH
TRUTH on youth
They DonN”T care
BouT US
7 DigiTs
Don’T Believe iT.
Could this boy have real connections to MJ?
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