Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on December 02, 2011, 01:43:09 AM

Title: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on December 02, 2011, 01:43:09 AM
I know there is an X Factor subject already, but this "clue" seems so big to me I have to start a new subject.

I took the excellent capture our friend "Mindseye" submitted, and I played with a few settings on a photo editing software.
I did it really fast, but I think the result is pretty convincing : the eyes, the cheekbones, the face proportions, THE JAWLINE AND THE CHIN....

I have no idea if you guys will see it as obviously as I see it, but to me, this is him.

When I compared the 2 pictures, it was a shock .... i just feel so alone behind my computer, so many emotions lol.
It's SOOO GOOOOD to see his angel face... even just a glimpse.

THIS IS IT GUYS    OMG!


I made a video ....   :) ok please don't kill me if we happen to prove it wasn't him. Have mercy lol.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51h8tKF0s9k[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: peruvit on December 02, 2011, 01:52:08 AM
WOW!
that does look like his facial features.
Incredible.
Maybe We know now why TS didn't Complete Level 7 and give us the new redirect
To give attention to the X factor episode. moonwalk_/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 02:01:06 AM
I dare this guy to come and say he's not Michael Joe Jackson, the King of Pop :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 02, 2011, 02:09:31 AM
Yes of course it's him. I accepted that as truth the moment I saw him behind Katherine.

This doesn't help the fact that if no one besides us knows he's alive, the "truth" will remain that he died a washed up weirdo druggie.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: conclusivemj on December 02, 2011, 02:11:50 AM
Ok well the fact that MicHatman at 2:09 has John Branca sitting to his right and Latoya to his left doesn't mean it's Michael...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULllu7jRZ7s&feature=

Hatman#1 had Latoya sitting a few seats down from him at the Memorial. It's mere...coincidence....THIS IS NOT A HOAX!!!

 /toldya/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: lilwendy on December 02, 2011, 02:12:15 AM
Ok I have to agree the facial features are... well... it freaking looks like him!  If that's the case though... yep... those disguises are really fantastic because unless I was analyzing every person that walked past me, I would totally pass this guy and not give him a second thought!

So now that we know he's alive, can we move on, get about our business and clear his name, make known his message and passion, even just get people to LISTEN and HEAR the lyrics in his songs?

Can we change the face of this world for the better?
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: conclusivemj on December 02, 2011, 02:15:07 AM
yes we can lilwendy.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 02:17:24 AM
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Ok well the fact that MicHatman at 2:09 has John Branca sitting to his right and Latoya to his left doesn't mean it's Michael...........



 :lol: :lol: :lol:

it's his neck and his jaw and chin...like your video says, " hormons quiver" LOOOL
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: ibelieveinmj on December 02, 2011, 02:20:17 AM
OMG !! 
Can it be? 
I think the eyes are convincing me of the possibilty.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 02, 2011, 02:20:41 AM
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Ok I have to agree the facial features are... well... it freaking looks like him!  If that's the case though... yep... those disguises are really fantastic because unless I was analyzing every person that walked past me, I would totally pass this guy and not give him a second thought!

So now that we know he's alive, can we move on, get about our business and clear his name, make known his message and passion, even just get people to LISTEN and HEAR the lyrics in his songs?

Can we change the face of this world for the better?

No because we have no credibility. We are the wackos that believe he's alive. No one listens to wackos.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: RK on December 02, 2011, 02:24:52 AM
Yep. Hi Michael.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on December 02, 2011, 02:40:52 AM
 penguin/ 

Come on guys! Let's be happy... every person or group of people who changed the world were seen as "wackos" for a time. It's almost a rule :o)

I'm really happy because like Souza, I was feeling something BIG had to happen with the timing.... Hello world, this is THRILLER anniversary!

I know we've been listing a lot of clues since the beginning of the hoax, but nothing shocked me as this. We've never seen him... and certainly not that obviously.

This is so Michael  :).... just like in Moonwalker, when the children cry over him. These last days, everything seems so desperate on the forum. Many believers lost hope... and BAM (well it's a BAM to me). bounce/

(maybe there are several "waves" to the BAM)  :o) )
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Catherine23 on December 02, 2011, 02:44:30 AM
WOW! THOSE EYES!!! Holy cow. Even the nose looks suspicious. I'm excited now. I'm from Australia and I loved watching X Factor over here. Is there footage on YouTube of Katherine or the kids talking where we can see this guy ??? I read the other thread about the X Factor and in one of the photos where a guy's bending down to talk to the kids, the bearded guy in the background is the only one looking directly at the kids, why is that I wonder!

This clue deserves an official thread. Wow.

Catherine23
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: conclusivemj on December 02, 2011, 02:45:11 AM
wacko...I hate that word.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 02, 2011, 02:47:14 AM
 :lol: smiley_spider /woohoo/ bow/ afraid/ michael-jackson/ :lol:




I feel like dancing!!

There is no doubt in my mind that's him.  Awesome job Michael!

As soon as I saw this better quality shot of him, it totally reminded me of casketman, but we don't hear his voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfa_JTFNHIc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfa_JTFNHIc&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 02:52:20 AM
moustache, glasses, cap, but what's that on his face?? Oh if he would just have smiled for us  /woohoo/

ohhh......can you guys tell me what date this x-factor was on TV? I don't have it here where i live.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on December 02, 2011, 03:06:10 AM
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Yes of course it's him. I accepted that as truth the moment I saw him behind Katherine.

This doesn't help the fact that if no one besides us knows he's alive, the "truth" will remain that he died a washed up weirdo druggie.

@bec. do you think this will be the case always or just in this instance... i guess what i *think* im asking, is that do you think that this is the extent of bam....

i dont, just interested to hear your opinion.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: For All Time on December 02, 2011, 03:09:35 AM
Great :D Hello Michael  ;))
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on December 02, 2011, 03:12:04 AM
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So now that we know he's alive, can we move on, get about our business and clear his name, make known his message and passion, even just get people to LISTEN and HEAR the lyrics in his songs?

Can we change the face of this world for the better?

No because we have no credibility. We are the wackos that believe he's alive. No one listens to wackos.


damn it. so true.  /scream/ /scream/ /scream/

it makes me feel like this...

(http://psychsurvivor2.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/neo-mouth.jpg)

how can you talk when you are unable to speak....
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on December 02, 2011, 05:37:25 AM
He looks like Arnold Klein :-O
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on December 02, 2011, 05:45:09 AM
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Ok well the fact that MicHatman at 2:09 has John Branca sitting to his right and Latoya to his left doesn't mean it's Michael...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULllu7jRZ7s&feature=

Hatman#1 had Latoya sitting a few seats down from him at the Memorial. It's mere...coincidence....THIS IS NOT A HOAX!!!

 /toldya/

Wow, did you watch this film until the nd? What do you think about this Alphonzo Jones??? Shock!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: ignisaeternus on December 02, 2011, 06:34:59 AM
I'm so happy someone made this thread- I posted about this guy Wednesday in the X-factor thread- as soon as I saw him, I got excited. I knew some of you could pull up better shots and do comparisons. I just saw a youtube clip from Serenity Dreams someone had on twitter where she morphes the faces.
In the bad shots I had, the chin didn't stand out as much, but this shot is really good re chin. I think the chin, the neck, the ears...and with this pic the eyes are very close. I know we've been down the road of staring at pics before, but this one is one of the ones that jumped out.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 07:03:32 AM
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moustache, glasses, cap, but what's that on his face?? Oh if he would just have smiled for us  /woohoo/

ohhh......can you guys tell me what date this x-factor was on TV? I don't have it here where i live.

Hi Gina,

Do you know how to download torrents? You can search for it "X Factor USA Episode 19"
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: SeeingClues on December 02, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
Check out the shirt pattern..  credit to Kingdom52 for the screen shot of the hatman.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: sandythyme on December 02, 2011, 07:51:50 AM
Morning  Family, I am so very happy to see this man.  At this moment I do believe he's Michael.  The features are there, sitting behind Katherine says it all.   If in fact this is really him, he is really testing the waters and after all he is a master of disguises. He could be out and about everyday who knows?  Maybe he is not ready to come back, maybe he is enjoying his new found freedom?  Perhaps that's why TS left us incomplete. I don't know, I was just really happy to see this man.   After thought..... Maybe he is going to appear more and more in different disguises, have fun with us, shock us to find out he has been right under everyones noses the whole thyme.  After all he said you ain't seen nothing yet and we know he wants to shock the world and rewrite history.  Take care, Love to All
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: ignisaeternus on December 02, 2011, 08:06:01 AM
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Check out the shirt pattern..  credit to Kingdom52 for the screen shot of the hatman.
Nice catch!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on December 02, 2011, 08:07:46 AM
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Ok well the fact that MicHatman at 2:09 has John Branca sitting to his right and Latoya to his left doesn't mean it's Michael...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULllu7jRZ7s&feature=

Hatman#1 had Latoya sitting a few seats down from him at the Memorial. It's mere...coincidence....THIS IS NOT A HOAX!!!

 /toldya/





umm very interesting, and the "hand clapping" is indeed very familiar!!!


 /bravo/  (sorry couldnt resist)  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 02, 2011, 08:39:29 AM
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Check out the shirt pattern..  credit to Kingdom52 for the screen shot of the hatman.

And he was very focused on the kids.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2s60rqf.jpg)


This was said on the other x-factor thread so I'll include it here as well...


Quote from: all4loveandbelieve on December 01, 2011, 02:35:39 PM


Why does Prince always has ear plugs in his ears? I would understand if he is waiting in a doctor's office where there is no music, and he wants to pass time. He is in the X factor where there is music dancing singing etc... So why ear plugs? Is it because he is being coached by Michael, that is there way of communicating? Here is a picture.  

I was thinking the same thing! ...always with those ear phones on. (Kind of like when Murray was always photographed talking on the cell phone)

An Ipod and an Iphone at a glance look alot alike (and easy to slip into a coat pocket).


Was Michael communicating with Prince through the earbud?  suspicious//
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 08:58:18 AM
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moustache, glasses, cap, but what's that on his face?? Oh if he would just have smiled for us  /woohoo/

ohhh......can you guys tell me what date this x-factor was on TV? I don't have it here where i live.

Hi Gina,

Do you know how to download torrents? You can search for it "X Factor USA Episode 19"

I don't do this very often but I searched it with bitcomet and let's see what I can download
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: mm on December 02, 2011, 09:40:19 AM
The distance between chin-to-mouth and mouth-to-nose doesn't seem the same. Also the forehead seems kinda off. But the features look quite similar :o
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on December 02, 2011, 09:47:31 AM
 /bravo/ Wow that is Michael, I knew it, since Prince had his ear piece, in his ear. I knew he was not listen to any music, but he was coached what his father was saying to him.. So this means that is half of a bam..  lolol/ Michael we need the full one. blessings.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 09:51:51 AM
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moustache, glasses, cap, but what's that on his face?? Oh if he would just have smiled for us  /woohoo/

ohhh......can you guys tell me what date this x-factor was on TV? I don't have it here where i live.

Hi Gina,

Do you know how to download torrents? You can search for it "X Factor USA Episode 19"

I don't do this very often but I searched it with bitcomet and let's see what I can download

http://torrent.zoink.it/The.X.Factor.US.S01E19.HDTV.XviD-2HD.[eztv].torrent
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Blueberry on December 02, 2011, 09:59:48 AM
I see the resemblances, but I am not firmly convinced it's really him. But great catch!  :mrgreen: It would be awesome if it really was him.

L.O.V.E. and hugs to everybody bearhug
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Tink.I.Am on December 02, 2011, 11:05:57 AM
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I know there is an X Factor subject already, but this "clue" seems so big to me I have to start a new subject.

I took the excellent capture our friend "Mindseye" submitted, and I played with a few settings on a photo editing software.
I did it really fast, but I think the result is pretty convincing : the eyes, the cheekbones, the face proportions, THE JAWLINE AND THE CHIN....

I have no idea if you guys will see it as obviously as I see it, but to me, this is him.

When I compared the 2 pictures, it was a shock .... i just feel so alone behind my computer, so many emotions lol.
It's SOOO GOOOOD to see his angel face... even just a glimpse.

THIS IS IT GUYS    OMG!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6442299577_f8bc8a9bb7.jpg)
and  isn't this man the SAME man  as we see with Omer Bhatti   mmmmm   (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6442299759_0dc859aef1_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: _Anna_ on December 02, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
where did you find that photo of Omer?
Omer usually says who's in the photo. Source?

The guy from XFactor looks bald, anyway.
The guy with the hat behind the sleeve with white stripes on the right
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5614/134315098.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/134315098.jpg/)

Some wonder why I don't get excited with clues. It's always the same. Someone comes and finds the explanation against it. No offence towards anyone. But that's how it is.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 02, 2011, 11:22:18 AM
May very well be, Tink. May very well be.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: alsmom380 on December 02, 2011, 11:39:13 AM
If that is REALLY Michael, I guess Simon Cowell FINALLY got his man to appear on X-Factor...American style. Albeit incognito. If not, at the very least he got MJ's family. And can't forget about the "secret meeting" they had in 2007. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/4982519/Michael-Jackson-pursued-by-Simon-Cowell-for-X-Factor-appearance.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/4982519/Michael-Jackson-pursued-by-Simon-Cowell-for-X-Factor-appearance.html)

7:08AM GMT 13 Mar 2009


Cowell, the lead judge on the ITV1 series, has made it a priority to persuade Jackson to appear on a live show during its next series this year, according to The Daily Mirror.


Jackson will be in Britain for long stretches of this year and next while he plays a 50-date residency at the O2 in London.


During the last series of the talent show, Britney Spears made a special appearance, but was criticised for miming.


A source is reported to have told the newspaper: "Britney was a massive coup for Cowell. But he's determined to raise the bar even higher and secure Jacko's services.


"He is perhaps one of the few artists who could outshine Britney. The only sticking point is that while Britney had her new album to promote, Jacko's shows have sold out in minutes and don't necessarily need the publicity.


"But Cowell won't let that stop him. He is determined to get his man."

Jackson's 'This Is It' concerts in London are to be his last in Britain. Originally 10 dates were planned, but the run was extended several times due to huge demand from fans.

Tickets officialy go on sale at 7am on Friday but hundreds of thousands were sold during an 18-hour presale earlier in the week. Organisers have said that half the tickets for each show are still available.


Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: BeTheChange on December 02, 2011, 11:41:02 AM
Thanks to Angel for posting the comparison shots.  I could be wrong...but the eyes do seem to have 'it'.

I needed a 'pick-me-up' today...and this may have done it  ::P

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 02, 2011, 11:44:22 AM
31 guests are viewing this topic. That might be a record.

Now the question is, what percentage are captivated and fascinated and what percentage think we are loonies. Haha. Ugh.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 02, 2011, 11:48:02 AM
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Some wonder why I don't get excited with clues. It's always the same. Someone comes and finds the explanation against it. No offence towards anyone. But that's how it is.

Yeah. I've been ranting about people talking themselves OUT of believing for years. They "debunk" with faulty supporting evidence and people are so quick to latch onto anything that provides any kind of "proof" against the hoax it's really disturbing and annoying.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: _Anna_ on December 02, 2011, 11:48:41 AM
The XFactor guy is bald. The one with Omer has long hair.
I don't know.

@bec I don't want to live in delusions and lie to myself, but when I see explanations for everything, I wonder what do we have then? It's the same with all clues. 
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9307/222rjw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/222rjw.jpg/)

Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: BeTheChange on December 02, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
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31 guests are viewing this topic. That might be a record.

Now the question is, what percentage are captivated and fascinated and what percentage think we are loonies. Haha. Ugh.

Well....they would have to be 'loonies' to check up on 'loonies'...wouldn't they?  :lol:

When all is said and done...no matter why 'they're' here...we all have much more in common than we do in differences.

For starters...we're all loonies.

With L.O.V.E. always.
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Post by: Snoopy71 on December 02, 2011, 12:01:16 PM
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31 guests are viewing this topic. That might be a record.

Now the question is, what percentage are captivated and fascinated and what percentage think we are loonies. Haha. Ugh.

I kinda like being called a lunatic! bounce/

Most of the people revered in history were called crazy

...I'd like to think we're in good company.  :lol:

(http://i51.tinypic.com/k2dyyg.jpg)




....and you just KNOW they are looking at that picture of MJ and wondering....is it possible?   :? :shock:


(http://i40.tinypic.com/20kyfec.jpg)

 :lol: ::P
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: iamamjbeliever on December 02, 2011, 12:19:56 PM
what video did you get this pic from?
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 12:25:11 PM
Here is him backstage with Branca
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on December 02, 2011, 12:27:07 PM
HEY GUYS ! 
Just another comparison ... this one is worth a glance too.

(Michael is SO hot on that picture : one of my favorite pictures  :oops:)

I know it's a picture from the 90's, but since his hair are whipped back, the shape and contour of his face are clear.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 12:28:05 PM
Another
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: marumjj on December 02, 2011, 12:28:44 PM
Simply I can not close my mouth! Why look under the tiles? Is there in front of us. The detail of the shirt is Wow! Maybe Bam advance? Kisses for everyone! /woohoo/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Andrea on December 02, 2011, 12:43:16 PM
I do think there is something going on with X Factor.  Love the mysterious hatman.

When the old forum got hacked or whatever, I put this video up on mjkit months ago.  At the time I said it was very Michaelish.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Hh4eXx6bs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: _Anna_ on December 02, 2011, 12:54:54 PM
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Here is him backstage with Branca

Do you have  the video of it, please?
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: fordtocarr on December 02, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
When this was first posted I looked at it and thought....geez I even see the hair.
Now, I see posts were some think he bald.
This is what I see.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on December 02, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
Here's my vid  :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51h8tKF0s9k[/youtube]

I just wanted to remind everyone here how thankful we should be towards Souza.   respect/
Whatever the ending to all this, thank you so much for your tremendous work.
I'm sending you all my love from Paris.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: BeTheChange on December 02, 2011, 01:41:07 PM
Great vid Angel...thanks again.  The pic comparisons are pretty convincing...when you combine those with TMZ's 'heads-up' tweet that 'MJ was there'... (lol...thanks again TMZ)...it's all very intriguing.

And I completely agree with thanking Souza for all her hard work.  I'm eternally grateful for all she does  ::P.

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: mindseye on December 02, 2011, 01:45:41 PM
Added a blurry image of hatman clapping.  ;D That's not hair on edges, but I think he has mj eyebrows.  Someone asked Latoya on twitter who this is, she didn't answer.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 02, 2011, 02:06:08 PM
Thank you for sharing this. My initial thoughts were that this person may not be with the family. People sit next to each other without knowing one another -so I was interested to know if he belonged to the "group". I found a shot where the guy to the left of Branca reaches over and speaks to hatman - so I was able to surmise that these guys do know each other and are together as a "group".

I agree with Wendy - it was really a great feeling when the boards came off the elementary school sign with Michael's name, and when MTV reinstated the award with MJ's name. I feel like we've become a little sluggish in our quest to clear MJ's name as some anticipate a BAM soon. I would love to see us get back to some of these important issues that still need tending to. The problem for me is that I need a reminder of what projects are still out there being worked on that we can contribute to. Maybe others feel the same way.

I believe that some do look at us as oddballs because we beLIEve. However, there is still plenty we can do to further the cause of clearing MJ's name. People will listen when they are ready. It's not up to us to push them, it's up to us to be ready when they are. This forum has done a great job housing information for those that come when they are ready.

Blessings
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 02:10:13 PM
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Here is him backstage with Branca

Do you have  the video of it, please?
Here it is - snippets shown on the results show
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPQCVar968g[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: _Anna_ on December 02, 2011, 02:14:52 PM
Thank you. They show it so fast, I thought it was longer.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: simalves on December 02, 2011, 02:18:12 PM
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Thank you. They show it so fast, I thought it was longer.

Yes it was fast, I had to advance frame by frame to get those screensnaps
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 02:27:35 PM
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I know there is an X Factor subject already, but this "clue" seems so big to me I have to start a new subject.

I took the excellent capture our friend "Mindseye" submitted, and I played with a few settings on a photo editing software.
I did it really fast, but I think the result is pretty convincing : the eyes, the cheekbones, the face proportions, THE JAWLINE AND THE CHIN....

I have no idea if you guys will see it as obviously as I see it, but to me, this is him.

When I compared the 2 pictures, it was a shock .... i just feel so alone behind my computer, so many emotions lol.
It's SOOO GOOOOD to see his angel face... even just a glimpse.

THIS IS IT GUYS    OMG!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6442299577_f8bc8a9bb7.jpg)
and  isn't this man the SAME man  as we see with Omer Bhatti   mmmmm   (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6442299759_0dc859aef1_z.jpg)

Dave Dave is a real person too...the hatman and the one with Omer look alike, it's just the one with Omer is fatter and almost has no neck, so I think the hat man at Xfactor is Michael disguised as that man with Omer.
@simalves thank you, but I already found a torrent and downloaded it and it works. I'm watching it now.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: SeeingClues on December 02, 2011, 03:11:32 PM
I used to love doing these back in the day... all I did was copy the eyes from "hatman" and paste on the MJ photo from the video.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: emulik on December 02, 2011, 03:20:07 PM
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I used to love doing these back in the day... all I did was copy the eyes from "hatman" and paste on the MJ photo from the video.
Well, for me it is now very clear.. :) eyes dont lie...oh, how we love those eyes ;))
thank you SeeingClues  and AngelGraduatedbyMJ for your work  bounce/ bounce/  /bravo/ /bravo/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: maninthemoon on December 02, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
He looks a lot like Ben Kingsley, the guy who played Mahatma Gandhi in the biopic "Gandhi" from 1982. Totally unrelated but just pointing out.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 02, 2011, 04:24:20 PM
OMG what they did to his songs in this show???
I saw the first 3 performances and really...I didn't like any of them. Don't know if I should waste my time to watch the rest errrr

................
OK I watched and I liked the Earth Song performance
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: AngelGraduatedbyMJ on December 02, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
@BetheChange : thank you  :)  Let me send you a hug  bearhug ... your posts always contains 2 things : kindness and wisdom. (and your profile picture is gorgeous ;o) )

@ SeeingClues : THIS IS GENIUS  /bravo/ ... I still had a 5% doubt, but thanks to you, it's gone. :)  That's the little thing that was missing to erase many doubts.
                        I hope you won't mind if I add those pictures to my initial post... this way, people will have it all at one place.
                       
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 02, 2011, 04:52:00 PM
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Check out the shirt pattern..  credit to Kingdom52 for the screen shot of the hatman.

Oh THAT'S great! LOL Love the shirt... I haven't seen Kingdom's vid yet & I don't watch the X-factor but nothing surprises me anymore.

 /bravo/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on December 02, 2011, 05:21:27 PM
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31 guests are viewing this topic. That might be a record.

Now the question is, what percentage are captivated and fascinated and what percentage think we are loonies. Haha. Ugh.

Bec, I can come to the rescue if  we all need therapy for being loonies.. lol..
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 02, 2011, 05:27:57 PM
Whether it is Michael or not (and I think he is), the mysterious person behind the family certainly evokes speculations among believers and also among non-believers (probably they look  :shock: suspicious//). This is so interesting and it proves the strategy of a genius behind all this. Just think about it, there's no better event than The X Factor with it's rocket high viewers rates to draw attention and appeal believers. Clever marketing. I love it! Smart MJ :-*

Michael Jackson Week helps 'The X Factor' U.S. become No. 1 TV show of the night
According to overnight ratings provided by Nielsen Media Research, the 90-minute episode had 10.93 million U.S. viewers, narrowly surpassing CBS's "Survivor," which came in second place with 10.92 million U.S. viewers. The final ratings may have slight adjustments to these numbers.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Michael Jackson Week helps 'The X Factor' U.S. become No. 1 TV show of the night - National The X Factor | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/the-x-factor-in-national/michael-jackson-week-helps-the-x-factor-u-s-become-no-1-tv-show-of-the-night#ixzz1fQG42fed


Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Adi on December 02, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
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HEY GUYS ! 
Just another comparison ... this one is worth a glance too.

(Michael is SO hot on that picture : one of my favorite pictures  :oops:)

I know it's a picture from the 90's, but since his hair are whipped back, the shape and contour of his face are clear.

The eyes, the eyebrows, the square jaw and the cleft in his chin certainly are similar to Michael's

@SeeingClues - nice one! :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: blankie on December 02, 2011, 05:47:24 PM
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Great vid Angel...thanks again.  The pic comparisons are pretty convincing...when you combine those with TMZ's 'heads-up' tweet that 'MJ was there'... (lol...thanks again TMZ)...it's all very intriguing.

And I completely agree with thanking Souza for all her hard work.  I'm eternally grateful for all she does  ::P.

With L.O.V.E. always.





I agree on all....Thanks to you all..Thanks Souza...Thanks Mike....Love you all so much



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Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 02, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
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I used to love doing these back in the day... all I did was copy the eyes from "hatman" and paste on the MJ photo from the video.

The eyes do it for me again. Thanks SeeingClues :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 02, 2011, 06:01:51 PM
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6442299577_f8bc8a9bb7.jpg)
and  isn't this man the SAME man  as we see with Omer Bhatti   mmmmm   (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6442299759_0dc859aef1_z.jpg)

Thanks for finding this out Tink. Yes, he is the same guy. I never thought that he was MJ and do not still think that he is. And why on earth would MJ disguise himself like this man? He is a genius and he can create so many disguises, why would he try to get into his disguise? Sorry for being the party pooper guys but I don't think this is Michael.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: wishingstar on December 02, 2011, 06:35:45 PM
Reminds me of the article from TMZ: The Eyes Have It
That one always stuck in my mine.  It was about how Murray was saying Michael accidentally killed himself. 

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=8338.0

I have to admit, this guy does have a strong resemblance in the facial features.  I have play devil's advocate though....don't get mad now, but do we know for sure this wasn't photoshopped to seem similar...just to mess with us?  The eyes really do match in some way.....even on an emotional level.  Michael's eyes can speak volumes.....these show that same feeling.  Are they shopped in, or are they real, or are they a mere coincidence?  Are there reflections in his glasses.....I can't really tell.  That reminds me of TS's ambulance picture...reflections of the red car, the layered effects etc.......
Just thinking out loud here.......

Blessings Always
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: mindseye on December 02, 2011, 06:53:02 PM
The eyes photoshopped in? The image I have was right from the video I took of the show. I created a screenshot of it, then lightened it in photoshop as much as I could without losing detail. The eyes showed through the glasses. As you see it :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on December 02, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6442299577_f8bc8a9bb7.jpg)
and  isn't this man the SAME man  as we see with Omer Bhatti   mmmmm   (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6442299759_0dc859aef1_z.jpg)

Thanks for finding this out Tink. Yes, he is the same guy. I never thought that he was MJ and do not still think that he is. And why on earth would MJ disguise himself like this man? He is a genius and he can create so many disguises, why would he try to get into his disguise? Sorry for being the party pooper guys but I don't think this is Michael.

thats the beauty of it purelove. it isnt a regular disguise of mj... that would be too predictable. its random on purpose... thats why out of all disguises he picked this one.

again, i could be totally wrong. but that is JMO at this point in time. if someone comes out and says, no, that wasnt mj in audience, that was me! well, then i will eat my hat humbly.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 02, 2011, 09:29:14 PM
Why, Purelove? Because it's craAazy? Yeah we're way past that.

I watched it on TV. I saw his eyes. I knew it was him instantly and I certainly wasn't looking for a Hatman. I had just gotten done typing "MJ aint gonna Bam on this little program Souza don't worry"" (since she couldn't watch it in her country) and BAM there he was when I looked up. It froze me in my tracks for a second and then I just bust out laughing.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 02, 2011, 09:36:47 PM
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6442299577_f8bc8a9bb7.jpg)
and  isn't this man the SAME man  as we see with Omer Bhatti   mmmmm   (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6442299759_0dc859aef1_z.jpg)

Thanks for finding this out Tink. Yes, he is the same guy. I never thought that he was MJ and do not still think that he is. And why on earth would MJ disguise himself like this man? He is a genius and he can create so many disguises, why would he try to get into his disguise? Sorry for being the party pooper guys but I don't think this is Michael.

thats the beauty of it purelove. it isnt a regular disguise of mj... that would be too predictable. its random on purpose... thats why out of all disguises he picked this one.

again, i could be totally wrong. but that is JMO at this point in time. if someone comes out and says, no, that wasnt mj in audience, that was me! well, then i will eat my hat humbly.

That is possible Aussie. We're all entitled to our opinions and what I see and feel is that this guy is not MJ in disguise. I can be wrong of course but that is what I think.   ;)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: ignisaeternus on December 02, 2011, 09:56:25 PM
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I used to love doing these back in the day... all I did was copy the eyes from "hatman" and paste on the MJ photo from the video.

Oh wow- that was amazing, Seeing Clues! Thank you for the eye-comparisons- they were eyeopening indeed.... As I said- something about this guy captivated me instantly. Glad I wasn't alone. Feels lonely in my rubber cell at times... :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: LoveShyMichael on December 03, 2011, 12:24:34 AM
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I used to love doing these back in the day... all I did was copy the eyes from "hatman" and paste on the MJ photo from the video.

Oh wow- that was amazing, Seeing Clues! Thank you for the eye-comparisons- they were eyeopening indeed.... As I said- something about this guy captivated me instantly. Glad I wasn't alone. Feels lonely in my rubber cell at times... :)

wow. those eyes look like Michaels. I was just looking at the bone structure of the cheeks & chin, it has a cleft, and cheecks round out like Michaels. Weird.... but that jaw line & chin eearry familiar......does anyone else this ??
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: LoveShyMichael on December 03, 2011, 12:27:29 AM
the pic with him and Omar. Look at the forhead of both Michaels & the guy with Omar. They round off the same at the top. Same distance, the length looks the same. I know that guy with Omar looks like a overweight bum, there is alot of similiar features with Michael at the top pic....
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: LoveShyMichael on December 03, 2011, 12:32:42 AM
Who is this guy? Does anyone have any other pics of him? I know Michael loved snakes, doesn't seem to bothered by the snake....which i hate snakes.......yuck.......always have glasses on.....we all know Michael's eyes are dead give away. why is it that every guy or woman we suspect of Michael in disguise "ALWAYS" seem to have sunglasses on????? I see Omar doesn't have sunglasses on. Anyone know if this guy recently came around more? or any pics of NO GLASSES, SO WE CAN SEE HIS EYES??
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: BeTheChange on December 03, 2011, 01:25:26 AM
@Angel...thanks for your kind words and thanks again for your work on the pics and the vid  ::P

About the guy in the pic with Omer...he is holding a pair of 'seeing' glasses in his hand, yet he is wearing 'sunglasses' in the pic...and the pic is taken indoors.  I can't tell if that guy is the same guy that was at X Factor....but the fact that he is holding a pair of 'seeing' glasses in his hand suggests he didn't want to be photographed with them on.  I can understand that...I wear glasses/contacts and don't like taking pics with glasses on and often take them off when taking pics.  BUT...when I'm indoors...I don't take them off and replace them with 'sunglasses' lol...that just doesn't make any sense to me.  But maybe I'm just coo-coo.  :?

The only possible reason I can think of as to why someone would take off their 'seeing' glasses and replace them with 'sunglasses' prior to taking a pic indoors (which that guy seems to have done since he's holding them in his hand)...is to hide their eyes.

One reason to want to hide your eyes is cause 'the eyes have it' (you can change a lot about your appearance...but the eyes are very telling).  Or because the bags under your eyes look like mine  /overreacting/

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Catherine23 on December 03, 2011, 01:40:28 AM
Thing is, even if the X Factor guy is the same man as the one with Omer (and I suspect he is) the odd thing is the X Factor guy seems completely bald; does this mean the guy with Omer is wearing a wig? Coincidence?

Catherine23
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: _Anna_ on December 03, 2011, 02:39:34 AM
The guy with Omer is kinda chubby and has long hair. The XFactor guy is bald and slender. You can see him standing up near Branca backstage. He is slender, not even a bit chubby.

A man when he chooses to wear long hair it's almost absurd to see him shaved bald after. At least to cut it short. But shave it bald? Only if they have problems with the hair like some men do, and they're getting naturally bald, and it looks ugly. But that guy with Omer has a normal hair. Why shave it? I don't say it's a general rule, but this is from my experience with men with long hair.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Tink.I.Am on December 03, 2011, 03:03:16 AM
someone asked where I got the pic.. it was from Omars twitter , and I believe it was about a year ago....
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: JentleTouch on December 03, 2011, 04:37:35 AM
Are you for real guys?:)
Look at his arms. They are too short to be MJ's
You can make something or someone longer or fatter but you can't make them shorter or thinner :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 03, 2011, 04:46:32 AM

Hatman must have on massive shoulder pads. Omer's pic really could be a set-up taken a year ago. MJ puts his easter egg clues out, expecting us to dig them up on the right occasion.  Omer's friend's hands don’t look like MJ’s big long hands.  I agree, that like DD is a real person, so MJ has a target person to disguise as.  Very fishy--these 2 people! suspicious// ;)  Hatman is hiding his hands.


AngelGraduatedbyMJ,  could you lighten up the sunglasses on Omer's friend so we can see if they are the same eyes? Thanks!



(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21571.0;attach=2416;image)(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6442299759_0dc859aef1_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: marumjj on December 03, 2011, 05:13:31 AM
Hi all, sorry if this video have already risen, but it caught my attention the letter in the rap "I'll Be There" is the participant 7 (o_o) Chris Rene.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38bBIbkLWg&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: conclusivemj on December 03, 2011, 08:12:38 AM
No no no clearly not Michael:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CBe0Gku8H4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 03, 2011, 08:15:56 AM
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Thing is, even if the X Factor guy is the same man as the one with Omer (and I suspect he is) the odd thing is the X Factor guy seems completely bald; does this mean the guy with Omer is wearing a wig? Coincidence?

Catherine23

Were the two pictures taken on the same day? The one with Omer and the one at the X Factor? We don't even know how old that pic with Omer is. So why would it be hard for him to shave his head or lost his hair? There's nothing odd about it.

P.S: Some people are very sensitive to light, especially if they have migraine. That place should have been very bright with all the spotlights. His sunglasses can have a simple explanation like that.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: BillieJeanKingofPop on December 03, 2011, 08:35:20 AM
I still haven't watched the complete show, but this guy initially jumped out at me during some of the bits that I did watch.  Seeing photos of him up close is kind of spooky.  I'm not going to say it is a fact, but wow! The eyes are eerie and then when you look at the jaw and chin.  There's definitely a connection or this guy wouldn't have been sitting so close to the family and Branca, and then he's backstage as well. 
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Galaxy on December 03, 2011, 09:10:43 AM
The guy sitting behind Katherine on The X Factor could remind me more of this guy than anybody else. Minus the gray wig of course.

(http://medias.lepost.fr/ill/2010/03/19/h-20-1995776-1269011738.png)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: fatalkiss26 on December 03, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
they wouldnt stick a random guy in with the family, he's RIGHT in the middle of the family.... WTF??


Maybe thats why the kids looked nervous throughout the whole show...
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: loyalfan on December 03, 2011, 10:55:11 AM
and unless i have it wrong here......i dont remember any of the "mystery" men ever being identified properly.so my money is on its MICHAEL ....unless that person comes forward on camera and says who is is !!! which he wont, the others didnt !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: AnaMarcia on December 03, 2011, 12:23:14 PM
I do not think this man is Michael!

How long will we find Michael everywhere and in all people?

This has been very sad and frustrating!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Delia on December 03, 2011, 01:36:17 PM
Indeed it is him.
And I noticed a shadow of a smile when Katherine was talking. Can you feel it ?
Thanks for the video, Angel !
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Delia on December 03, 2011, 01:55:00 PM
I*m glad Marumjj that you posted about Chris Renee, because he says something at 3.05 like <for my kids i*ll do anything, found a way to save my life> and so forth, but I didn*t understand it all. Isn*t that something ?
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 03, 2011, 02:33:54 PM
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I*m glad Marumjj that you posted about Chris Renee, because he says something at 3.05 like <for my kids i*ll do anything, found a way to save my life> and so forth, but I didn*t understand it all. Isn*t that something ?

I posted a hoax video about it. Here is the link

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21586.0
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: mrbigshot on December 03, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
Of course it's michael....who wears sunglasses indoors??
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: BillieJeanKingofPop on December 04, 2011, 01:08:07 AM
I showed the pics to my mom and my brother and they both see what most of us see here.  I have shared with them both many of the strange things concerning the "death" of Michael, so the possibility of him being alive is something that they both are aware of.  They don't really do all the research or pay as much attention as I do, but they are both hopeful.  I was telling my mom, that I wasn't saying that this guy was in fact Michael, but she was like no, that looks too much like him.  It was funny. 

I personally feel that it's far too much of a coincidence that this man was sitting behind the family, beside the executor of the estate and has so many similar facial features that resemble those of Michael's.  What are the odds of that?   
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: conclusivemj on December 04, 2011, 01:09:26 AM
Galaxy is that Kim Kardashian in front of Hatman 1.0??  lolol/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Catherine23 on December 04, 2011, 01:30:16 AM
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Thing is, even if the X Factor guy is the same man as the one with Omer (and I suspect he is) the odd thing is the X Factor guy seems completely bald; does this mean the guy with Omer is wearing a wig? Coincidence?

Catherine23

Were the two pictures taken on the same day? The one with Omer and the one at the X Factor? We don't even know how old that pic with Omer is. So why would it be hard for him to shave his head or lost his hair? There's nothing odd about it.

P.S: Some people are very sensitive to light, especially if they have migraine. That place should have been very bright with all the spotlights. His sunglasses can have a simple explanation like that.


I figured this out myself when Tink.I.Am said the one with Omer is over a year old. Just couldn't be bothered mentioning it... :lol:

Catherine23
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 04, 2011, 04:54:28 AM
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Of course it's michael....who wears sunglasses indoors??

I do. LOL Especially when the migraine hits the nail on my head.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 04, 2011, 05:51:25 AM
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Of course it's michael....who wears sunglasses indoors??

I do. LOL Especially when the migraine hits the nail on my head.

And this man just HAPPENS to be seated near the Jackson Family (how'd he manage that one) and just HAPPENS to go to a MUSIC SHOW with a migraine (what are the odds?).

Michael's eyes are a dead give away!

We all know this....and so does he!

(http://i41.tinypic.com/68r9kk.jpg)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on December 04, 2011, 08:24:58 AM
I found it interesting that, when I showed the picture to a non-believer here in da house, he immediately reacted "who is that shady person behind Mrs. Jackson?" 8-) It reminded me of the titel of this TMZ article "Dr. Conrad Murray -- Baby, He's Shady!"
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=14305&hilit=santa+monica&sid=e2768dfc9c140e6631803372201419e8
And "shady" has different meanings:

"a person who's wearing sunglasses (shades)"

and/or

"Meaning of shady (adjective)
disreputable; obscure; indistinct

Example
A shady person would not be trusted with a sensitive secret."

http://www.english-test.net/gmat/vocabulary/meanings/128/gmat-words.php

I'm not saying this person is not to be trusted, though obviously he seems to have a secret 8-) ;)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: captainettemoonwalk on December 04, 2011, 08:58:24 AM
All I have to say is  :shock: 8-).
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: wishingstar on December 04, 2011, 09:01:51 AM
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The eyes photoshopped in? The image I have was right from the video I took of the show. I created a screenshot of it, then lightened it in photoshop as much as I could without losing detail. The eyes showed through the glasses. As you see it :)

My bad mindseye....I didn't realize that's how you got this image to appear like this.  It's really freaky to see those eyes so clearly.....you did an amazing job!  I apologize if it seemed like I insinuated anything.  Truly amazing eyes.....thank you very much for your hard work to help us see them!

Blessings to you and all.......
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Post by: SimPattyK on December 04, 2011, 09:22:00 AM
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All I have to say is  :shock: 8-).
^^ ;)
And I'll add this:  mj_dance/

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31 guests are viewing this topic. That might be a record.

Now the question is, what percentage are captivated and fascinated and what percentage think we are loonies. Haha. Ugh.
Well....they would have to be 'loonies' to check up on 'loonies'...wouldn't they?  :lol:
[...]
LMAO !  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Tink.I.Am on December 04, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
 typing/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: SEHF on December 04, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
lol.. that's it I'm going to put a fake mustache on and start following the Jaxionsssssss around.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 04, 2011, 09:35:03 PM
Does someone have a link to the video that shows the "hatman 2.0"? I would like to look/see/ and compare myself. Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 04, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
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Of course it's michael....who wears sunglasses indoors??

I do. LOL Especially when the migraine hits the nail on my head.

And this man just HAPPENS to be seated near the Jackson Family (how'd he manage that one) and just HAPPENS to go to a MUSIC SHOW with a migraine (what are the odds?).

Michael's eyes are a dead give away!

We all know this....and so does he!

(http://i41.tinypic.com/68r9kk.jpg)

Well apparently the man is someone close to family. It is obvious from the picture of Omer. So, why is it surprising that he sits close to family in the show? Yes, exactly Michael's eyes are a dead give away and I don't see Michael's eyes in him. And I gave migraine just as an example but there are several diseases that you need to use an eye glass with dark glasses like a sun-glass. He was already wearing one in the pic with Omer inside the house.
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Post by: PureLove on December 04, 2011, 09:43:33 PM
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lol.. that's it I'm going to put a fake mustache on and start following the Jaxionsssssss around.

 :lol:
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Post by: mindseye on December 04, 2011, 10:13:56 PM
This is the video I used for the screen image. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujibymwwlJc[/youtube]  Just a note, sorry, but I realized this is earlier, and the one with screen shot is later part of show which I'll post.
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Post by: Coco on December 04, 2011, 10:37:20 PM
Thanks for this video!

I actually did a double take when I was watching clips of this round of X Factor,
but I didn't really think much of it.
I really have to stay more alert, haha.

Wow, they do have quite similar features and their faces do seem to line up in many areas.
I can't confidently say much about the eyes, though... I wish he wasn't wearing sunglasses.

I don't really have anything more to add to the points that have already been mentioned.

Classic Michael with his Mother-fooling disguises... rr/

And, if it isn't Michael can we confirm who it is (meant to be)?

(This is probably a stupid question but... Would Michael be taking on disguises of other people [like Dave x2 ;)] so that they can be confirmed and not just unidentified people/people that don't really exist, because that would be kind of suspicious?)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 04, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
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This is the video I used for the screen image. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujibymwwlJc[/youtube]  Just a note, sorry, but I realized this is earlier, and the one with screen shot is later part of show which I'll post.

Thank you! Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 04, 2011, 11:08:20 PM
@Coco, yes especially since it has been established that once a person is "identified" the disguise theory is considered debunked by most hoaxers. Seed of doubt.
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Post by: mindseye on December 04, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Seemed like an eternity to upload  crash/
THIS is the closer look, hope after copying on youtube it's still as clear. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V33pjF0heWw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 04, 2011, 11:26:59 PM
Thank you very much for taking the time to do this. I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: GINAFELICIA on December 05, 2011, 01:13:09 AM
Quote
(This is probably a stupid question but... Would Michael be taking on disguises of other people [like Dave x2 ;)] so that they can be confirmed and not just unidentified people/people that don't really exist, because that would be kind of suspicious?)

That's the idea ;)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: chappie on December 05, 2011, 02:34:47 AM
Just eating chips....so i looked at his ears...... bangbang
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 05, 2011, 05:44:03 AM
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Of course it's michael....who wears sunglasses indoors??

I do. LOL Especially when the migraine hits the nail on my head.

And this man just HAPPENS to be seated near the Jackson Family (how'd he manage that one) and just HAPPENS to go to a MUSIC SHOW with a migraine (what are the odds?).

Michael's eyes are a dead give away!

We all know this....and so does he!

(http://i41.tinypic.com/68r9kk.jpg)

Well apparently the man is someone close to family. It is obvious from the picture of Omer. So, why is it surprising that he sits close to family in the show? Yes, exactly Michael's eyes are a dead give away and I don't see Michael's eyes in him. And I gave migraine just as an example but there are several diseases that you need to use an eye glass with dark glasses like a sun-glass. He was already wearing one in the pic with Omer inside the house.

My grandmother (God rest her) had a saying ...

"You sure know how to beat a blessing until it runs from you"


Purelove, I honestly think you could talk yourself right out of a miracle



You see what you see, I respect that. :geek:




YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! /woohoo/




 ....moving on typing/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 05, 2011, 05:46:38 AM
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Just eating chips....so i looked at his ears...... bangbang


 :lol: Any luck with that?


I bet he knew that's the first thing we'd do!


...he's seen his ears all over the internet! WTF?? are my fans doing to me? :lol:



We just want to be sure it's you MJ  ::P  ;)

typing/
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Post by: Adi on December 05, 2011, 06:01:51 AM
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Just eating chips....so i looked at his ears...... bangbang


 :lol: Any luck with that?


I bet he knew that's the first thing we'd do!


...he's seen his ears all over the internet! WTF?? are my fans doing to me? :lol:



We just want to be sure it's you MJ  ::P  ;)

typing/

His ears, his eyes, his eyebrows, his hands, his fingers, his lips, his chin, his wrist, his feet.........the list is almost endless at the examination Michael's bodyparts have undergone due to this hoax - from the O2 press conference to this ( I hope he doesn't mind)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Suzy7 on December 05, 2011, 06:06:36 AM

 I watched this twice on t.v. that day to see him again and his eyes stood out to me. He looked by the camera and they were all I could see. It makes sense if MJ disguises himself to wear sunglasses as his eyes are a dead give away, so it could be him who really knows? But I wouldn't mind if it was ;-).

 I don't believe the lyrics to Chris' song are a clue because that would mean he knows something as he writes his own lyrics. Considering he has kids and was an addict, they apply to his life just as much.
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Post by: Snoopy71 on December 05, 2011, 06:18:28 AM
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Just eating chips....so i looked at his ears...... bangbang


 :lol: Any luck with that?


I bet he knew that's the first thing we'd do!


...he's seen his ears all over the internet! WTF?? are my fans doing to me? :lol:



We just want to be sure it's you MJ  ::P  ;)

typing/

His ears, his eyes, his eyebrows, his hands, his fingers, his lips, his chin, his wrist, his feet.........the list is almost endless at the examination Michael's bodyparts have undergone due to this hoax  - from the O2 press conference to this ( I hope he doesn't mind)

I guess we have to see the "irony"

We still can't decide "Who" or "What" went to UCLA that day (TIAI 11-11-11)

...yet we've dissected this man from head to toe time and time again.



The Magician knows his craft well
  ;)


Will wonders ever cease?!  :shock:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: chappie on December 05, 2011, 06:35:51 AM
Guess we haven't seen everything.....yet.... ;D
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 05, 2011, 06:54:20 AM
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Of course it's michael....who wears sunglasses indoors??

I do. LOL Especially when the migraine hits the nail on my head.

And this man just HAPPENS to be seated near the Jackson Family (how'd he manage that one) and just HAPPENS to go to a MUSIC SHOW with a migraine (what are the odds?).

Michael's eyes are a dead give away!

We all know this....and so does he!

(http://i41.tinypic.com/68r9kk.jpg)

Well apparently the man is someone close to family. It is obvious from the picture of Omer. So, why is it surprising that he sits close to family in the show? Yes, exactly Michael's eyes are a dead give away and I don't see Michael's eyes in him. And I gave migraine just as an example but there are several diseases that you need to use an eye glass with dark glasses like a sun-glass. He was already wearing one in the pic with Omer inside the house.

My grandmother (God rest her) had a saying ...

"You sure know how to beat a blessing until it runs from you"


Purelove, I honestly think you could talk yourself right out of a miracle



You see what you see, I respect that. :geek:




YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! /woohoo/




 ....moving on typing/

I'm not saying I'm right or you're wrong Snoopy. I'm just stating my opinion. I respect your point of view and I just stated mine. And you can be right about this man and he can be MJ in disguise but from my point of view he is not. I tried to explain why I don't believe he is MJ in disguise. Those are my reasons and they don't need to sound plausible to no one. No need to ridicule me and my opinion.

What I don't get is the frustration in people when they hear another opinion which is definitely not like theirs. Talking in general here. But I think we should understand what every each of us are trying to say and look at the issue from both sides and be respectful to each other's opinions.
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Post by: Snoopy71 on December 05, 2011, 07:04:18 AM
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Guess we haven't seen everything.....yet.... ;D

Nope we certainly haven't!  ::P
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Post by: LUNA on December 05, 2011, 09:56:59 AM
oooh and..... what about his makeup?? his sunglasses?? y should a man wear sunglasses when in a theather or while is attending a show?? mmh.... is it normal??  :roll:

LUNA
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: fatalkiss26 on December 05, 2011, 04:37:13 PM
Who is to say Chris wrote the lyric rap to the song? "Someone" may have wrote it for him and he just sang it.

All of these singing shows are shady...some claim to "write" their own music and we find out later, they didn't...ie..

back on American idol, David Cook did Billie Jean, claimed to have done his OWN version and later it was investigated it was already done before by Chris Cornell


Chris Daughtry did Ring of Fire, said it was his own version, then a day later, we found out that was done by someone else as well.

These shows are shady, Idol was proven to be fixed by a past contestant, Americas votes don't count..yadda yadda...so don't believe everything that comes out of these shows...

I bet money that rap wasn't written by him...
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: reyferrari on December 05, 2011, 05:49:31 PM
so, where's the proof???
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 05, 2011, 06:53:06 PM
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Seemed like an eternity to upload  crash/
THIS is the closer look, hope after copying on youtube it's still as clear. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V33pjF0heWw[/youtube]

I've been trying to find a picture but the bald headed guy reminds me of the attorney who spoke on the family's behalf at the sentencing. Can someone confirm this? If we can then we might have a direction for where to find this mystery man - if in fact he isn't Michael.

PS - I still find highly odd that Branca was at the taping of the X-Factor yet he couldn't make his way to the verdict. Also - his presence is odd since the family supposedly questions the authority of the will.

Hmmm...
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on December 05, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
I wish Michael would come out just as himself and try and convince the public that he's just a...uh...distant relative. You know the majority would buy into it. whatever they're told.

BTW, I haven't been posting lately. Taking a Hoaxcation, something we all need every now and then. But I still love reading, I just don't have much to say and would rather not take up space or memory on here :).
This mystery man has MJ's bone structure and the eyes are just killing me!!!! :) :)

Mike, bring your gorgeous butt back to us!
Love you guys.
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Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on December 05, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
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oooh and..... what about his makeup?? his sunglasses?? y should a man wear sunglasses when in a theather or while is attending a show?? mmh.... is it normal??  :roll:

LUNA


There's only two people that I know of that wear sunglasses in the dark
Corey Hart
Michael Jackson
lol
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Post by: pepper on December 06, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
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and unless i have it wrong here......i dont remember any of the "mystery" men ever being identified properly.so my money is on its MICHAEL ....unless that person comes forward on camera and says who is is !!! which he wont, the others didnt !!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY. ;)

(http://www.digitalmarmelade.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/hatman1.jpg)

(http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/0908/cf/d0248d0bcaa5.jpg)

(http://medias.lepost.fr/ill/2010/03/19/h-20-1995776-1269011738.png)



Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 06, 2011, 02:16:25 PM
TheMoonIsDancing
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This mystery man has MJ's bone structure and the eyes are just killing me!!!!
Mike, bring your gorgeous butt back to us!
Well, that about sums things up, with all respect! :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Catherine23 on December 09, 2011, 02:02:14 AM
I know it's been mentioned a long time ago in a Dave Dave thread, but what doesn't add up is that the first hatman at the funeral was attending right when Dave Dave was being interviewed. To me Dave Dave is way more like Michael than hatman number 1, which is why I don't think hatman number 1 is Michael.

Catherine23
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: bec on December 09, 2011, 02:25:54 AM
No the first Hatman was at the memorial.
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Post by: simalves on December 09, 2011, 03:06:39 AM
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oooh and..... what about his makeup?? his sunglasses?? y should a man wear sunglasses when in a theather or while is attending a show?? mmh.... is it normal??  :roll:

LUNA


There's only two people that I know of that wear sunglasses in the dark
Corey Hart
Michael Jackson
lol

But when Marlon came on stage while being introduced on XFactor he had sunglasses on too. Isn't it a wonder they did not pan to them ever seated in the crowd and just showed the mother and the kids.
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Post by: Catherine23 on December 09, 2011, 04:28:02 AM
Woops, sorry that's what I meant to say.

Catherine23

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No the first Hatman was at the memorial.
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Post by: gwynned on December 09, 2011, 07:45:27 AM
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I know it's been mentioned a long time ago in a Dave Dave thread, but what doesn't add up is that the first hatman at the funeral was attending right when Dave Dave was being interviewed. To me Dave Dave is way more like Michael than hatman number 1, which is why I don't think hatman number 1 is Michael.

Catherine23

Are we sure the Dave Dave interview was live?  I know they said that, but, I hate to break it to you, but these people have been known to LIE from time to time.  :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on December 09, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
There might be two hatmans as well. The first one is different than the other... The fact that the second hatman was at the same time on TV as Dave Dave, doesn't mean that the fist hatman wasn't MJ in disguise...
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: applehead250609 on December 09, 2011, 03:54:13 PM
Oh my I don't know if anyone saw this,but Chris Rene was not all at the X Factor  :shock: !!! Please listen to what Nicole Scherzinger had to say to one of the contesters  starting with 5:53  :shock: :

"Michael is so inspiring ,we feel him in our veins  :? he's POWERFUL, he's DANGEROUS ,is BOLD........ "  8-) !!!!

Josh Krajcik - Top 7 - THE X FACTOR USA 2011
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF4DKG_6CH0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Suzy7 on December 09, 2011, 07:05:29 PM
 @Fatalkiss, you're confusing different VERSIONS of the same song, with different LYRICS to a song. Yes, there was the similar version of Billie Jean done by Chris Cornell, but not different lyrics written by the artist on American Idol. They (AI) only do covers NOT original music, whereas X-Factor does. Just like the situation with Chris Daughtry the lyrics were not changed, it was merely a cover of an already existing version of a song.


 Same lyrics; different versions (covers) compared to the original songs. Therefore, Chris Rene's version was not just a cover of MJ's song, but his own original version. He is a song writer and performs his own music on the show all the time, in fact you can buy his music. The rappers on the show do indeed write their own original version of a song, so yes those were Chris' lyrics.

 If you want to believe Michael wrote them you can, but I think other things could be better taken as clues.

Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 11, 2011, 09:55:06 PM
Not to shatter anyone's hopes of the X-Factor Hatman being MJ, but I saw hatman with Branca at Fanfest in Las Vegas yesterday. The following picture is of hatman and Cee-Lo Green. I was taking a picture initially of Cee-Lo Green. When I went looking through my pictures I noticed that I captured hatman in my Cee-Lo Green pictures.

Hatman and Branca arrived together about 2 hours into the start of Fanfest. (They arrived at the same time the Cee-Lo Green entourage arrived.) (we went to the 5-9 session on Saturday) John Branca was very nice and even posed for a picture for me and also let my hubby take a picture of me and momof3kids with him.  I told him that we were HUGE fans of MJ (obviously) and he said, "I am too."  Branca also asked if we were going to the Cirque Show and we said yes.

We saw hatman and Branca walking around for a short time and then they left together. I was really close to hatman and he was bald and did not look anything like someone in disguise. I'm now convinced that he was not MJ and in fact a close confidant/bodyguard type to Branca. He wore his sunglasses at Fanfest as well and it was dark in there. Cee-Lo Green also wore his dark glasses while walking through Fanfest.

I'm going to check with momof3kids to see if she's okay with me posting the pic of Branca and us before I post it so I'm only posting the picture that I took of Branca alone.

The Fanfest and Cirque Shows were beyond amazing! I can't even begin to describe how amazing it was. I will post my thoughts in and things I saw in the Cirque thread.

[embed=425,349][/embed]

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Post by: voiceforthesilent on December 11, 2011, 10:24:39 PM
Anewfan - THANK YOU so so much for sharing this with us. I am thankful that you've seen this person and believe he's not MJ. I am curious as to why Branca was at Fanfest, not just one day but apparently several days. I'll go in search of the Cirque thread as I'm anxious to hear about your time in Vegas.

Hugs to you. So glad you and Momof3kids were able to go.

Blessings
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Post by: Delia on December 12, 2011, 11:46:47 AM
How can you be so absolutely shure ?
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: gwynned on December 12, 2011, 12:28:31 PM
That may be the same hat but it ain't the same guy!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 12, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
Why would 2 guys who look exactly the same, and happen to be right by Branca at 2 different occasions be 2 different guys? I guess I can't be 100% sure, but my common sense is telling me that this person is the same person that was on X-Factor. I saw this guy with my own two eyes, but anyone can believe what they want. I know what I believe.
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Post by: gwynned on December 12, 2011, 02:13:21 PM
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Why would 2 guys who look exactly the same, and happen to be right by Branca at 2 different occasions be 2 different guys? I guess I can't be 100% sure, but my common sense is telling me that this person is the same person that was on X-Factor. I saw this guy with my own two eyes, but anyone can believe what they want. I know what I believe.

Why?  Michael was always using decoys.
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Post by: momof3kids on December 12, 2011, 02:44:05 PM
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That may be the same hat but it ain't the same guy!

I was with anewfan at the fan fest, and I also believe this man was our x factor hatman..  Sorry, but he is not MJ in disguise (in my opinion).  We'll just have to keep looking, MJ's out there somewhere!!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 12, 2011, 02:51:55 PM

anewfan, thanks for sharing your pics, and momof3kids. I know you're trying to be logical/rational about what you saw.
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I was really close to hatman and he was bald and did not look anything like someone in disguise
Aren't you just a tiny bit afraid/ , just in case it really was Michael, standing so close? I wouldn't be so 100% sure. He said he could fool his mother.

The question is--is this guy that same as who was with Omer. And why do his eyes and face shape match MJ's?
Why wouldn't MJ want to be at Fanfest which is about himself?
Cee-lo Green is the kind of quality singer MJ might want to be around.
There is still much more in favor of him being MJ, than not. IMO
I wonder if Pearl Jr. got wind of new hatman, and saw him at Fanfest. She hasn't said anything yet.





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Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Snoopy71 on December 12, 2011, 03:01:31 PM
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Not to shatter anyone's hopes of the X-Factor Hatman being MJ, but I saw hatman with Branca at Fanfest in Las Vegas yesterday. The following picture is of hatman and Cee-Lo Green. I was taking a picture initially of Cee-Lo Green. When I went looking through my pictures I noticed that I captured hatman in my Cee-Lo Green pictures.

Hatman and Branca arrived together about 2 hours into the start of Fanfest. (They arrived at the same time the Cee-Lo Green entourage arrived.) (we went to the 5-9 session on Saturday) John Branca was very nice and even posed for a picture for me and also let my hubby take a picture of me and momof3kids with him.  I told him that we were HUGE fans of MJ (obviously) and he said, "I am too."  Branca also asked if we were going to the Cirque Show and we said yes.

We saw hatman and Branca walking around for a short time and then they left together. I was really close to hatman and he was bald and did not look anything like someone in disguise. I'm now convinced that he was not MJ and in fact a close confidant/bodyguard type to Branca. He wore his sunglasses at Fanfest as well and it was dark in there. Cee-Lo Green also wore his dark glasses while walking through Fanfest.

I'm going to check with momof3kids to see if she's okay with me posting the pic of Branca and us before I post it so I'm only posting the picture that I took of Branca alone.

The Fanfest and Cirque Shows were beyond amazing! I can't even begin to describe how amazing it was. I will post my thoughts in and things I saw in the Cirque thread.

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Maybe more pictures will surface of the "mystery man" that evening.

Thank you for sharing yours! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 12, 2011, 03:04:33 PM
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Why would 2 guys who look exactly the same, and happen to be right by Branca at 2 different occasions be 2 different guys? I guess I can't be 100% sure, but my common sense is telling me that this person is the same person that was on X-Factor. I saw this guy with my own two eyes, but anyone can believe what they want. I know what I believe.

Why?  Michael was always using decoys.

You are right. He was. I am one that believes he does go out in disguises. There are many stories from his close family and friends as well as pictures that shows he did this.

But now that I've seen that hatman is in fact a real person and not someone in disguise, I'm convinced that it was not MJ at the X-Factor. Until I saw him this weekend, I thought it was a possibility that it could be MJ....because he did look out of place. My stance is that it was not MJ. I realize that people will still believe that it was MJ, and that is perfectly fine with me.  Everyone is free to believe whatever they want without being criticized.

I just wanted to post the picture to show that "hatman" does in fact exist. (He appeared to be some sort of assistant to Branca. They came in together, but he was continually texting and/or on his cell phone.)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 12, 2011, 03:17:05 PM
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anewfan, thanks for sharing your pics, and momof3kids. I know you're trying to be logical/rational about what you saw.
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I was really close to hatman and he was bald and did not look anything like someone in disguise
Aren't you just a tiny bit afraid/ , just in case it really was Michael, standing so close? I wouldn't be so 100% sure. He said he could fool his mother.

The question is--is this guy that same as who was with Omer. And why do his eyes and face shape match MJ's?
Why wouldn't MJ want to be at Fanfest which is about himself?
Cee-lo Green is the kind of quality singer MJ might want to be around.
There is still much more in favor of him being MJ, than not. IMO
I wonder if Pearl Jr. got wind of new hatman, and saw him at Fanfest. She hasn't said anything yet.





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I was standing within 2 to 3 feet of him. Believe me, I was in search of trying to find MJ in disguise at Fanfest. I was studying people the whole night. (just ask momof3kids) I actually thought an old man was MJ in disguise. He seems a better candidate for MJ in disguise than hatman. (in my opinion) I will have to share that funny story later and post a picture.

 Back to hatman......I got as close to him as I could and I listened to him talk (because he was on the cell phone a lot) and he didn't sound anything like MJ. His mannerisms weren't MJ either. I was SO wishing it was him, because I actually thought it was possible that hatman was MJ at X-Factor until I saw hatman in the flesh.

In my opinion, the guy with Omer is not the same guy that I saw at Fanfest. The guy at fanfest was fit and trim and bald.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 12, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
Could it have been MJ's other (Ghost mayor) voice?
MJ being in disguise would give himself away totally with his unmistakable usual soft voice.
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In my opinion, the guy with Omer is not the same guy that I saw at Fanfest. The guy at fanfest was fit and trim and bald.

Fit and trim certainly match Michael.  I've always thought the guy with Omer is a set-up pic so people will think the disguise is him.


Funny how the hatman at the funeral was always on his cell. (I don't think either earlier hatmans were MJ. I prefer blond lady at the memorial, and DD on LKL was the same time as the funeral.)
Also on HT, the tall guy (John Edwards) with the same hat "flat cap" as this guy, was also on his cell a lot.

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Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: PureLove on December 12, 2011, 04:18:20 PM
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That may be the same hat but it ain't the same guy!

I was with anewfan at the fan fest, and I also believe this man was our x factor hatman..  Sorry, but he is not MJ in disguise (in my opinion).  We'll just have to keep looking, MJ's out there somewhere!!

Thank you momof and thank you anewfan for clearing this up but it looks like nothing can convince some who want to see Michael in disguise all the time. No matter what you say, they will find an excuse to keep on believing. It was already obvious that the guy was not Michael but ...    ohh well ...    :roll:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Andrea on December 12, 2011, 05:35:03 PM
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anewfan, thanks for sharing your pics, and momof3kids. I know you're trying to be logical/rational about what you saw.
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I was really close to hatman and he was bald and did not look anything like someone in disguise
Aren't you just a tiny bit afraid/ , just in case it really was Michael, standing so close? I wouldn't be so 100% sure. He said he could fool his mother.

The question is--is this guy that same as who was with Omer. And why do his eyes and face shape match MJ's?
Why wouldn't MJ want to be at Fanfest which is about himself?
Cee-lo Green is the kind of quality singer MJ might want to be around.
There is still much more in favor of him being MJ, than not. IMO
I wonder if Pearl Jr. got wind of new hatman, and saw him at Fanfest. She hasn't said anything yet.





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I was standing within 2 to 3 feet of him. Believe me, I was in search of trying to find MJ in disguise at Fanfest. I was studying people the whole night. (just ask momof3kids) I actually thought an old man was MJ in disguise. He seems a better candidate for MJ in disguise than hatman. (in my opinion) I will have to share that funny story later and post a picture.

 Back to hatman......I got as close to him as I could and I listened to him talk (because he was on the cell phone a lot) and he didn't sound anything like MJ. His mannerisms weren't MJ either. I was SO wishing it was him, because I actually thought it was possible that hatman was MJ at X-Factor until I saw hatman in the flesh.

In my opinion, the guy with Omer is not the same guy that I saw at Fanfest. The guy at fanfest was fit and trim and bald.

anewfan - it DEFINITELY sounds like I should've gone in the evening instead of the afternoon.  Ahh, if only I had known!

What's interesting is that you are convinced this hatman was real and not MJ.  You're probably right.  I think MJ was Dave Dave on Larry King only, I think it's entirely possible that MJ was the old dancing guy in HT one time (not all the subsequent or previous appearances by old dancing guy).  Both disguises based on real people.  The same could be for this hatman with Branca.  MJ most likely appeared as him on X Factor (again, a one time disguise based on a real person) but the real guy was with Branca on Saturday night at fanfest.

What's also interesting is you had stated when you and momof3kids were going to be there, and I had said before the weekend that I would try to go then as well. (And I really wish I had re-arranged my plans to be there - UGH!)  We both stated on this public forum read by who knows that we would be there and then Branca and hatman show up, perhaps knowing full well hoax peeps would be there, ever watchful.  Obviously we would've recognized Branca (which you did anewfan, same with hatman especially considering he's been a hot topic recently).  I do think you saw what you were meant to see and told us as was hoped.  I could be over analyzing but maybe not...
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Its her on December 12, 2011, 06:00:08 PM
Idk if MJ was on X Factor or not. He said once that he was so good with disguises, it could be him or not. It is iffy, as Illusions always are (Did I really see THAT??? :shock: :lol: ). And he is a Master of illusion. :D

I think it is more exciting to know that he really, truly is right HERE, every day with US, by choice!! :mrgreen:

I mean, if you think "Back" was MJ all this time, and "Front" is a chip off the ol' block... Front told us that he NEVER left us at all! That he has been following the forums since "Lights Out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I seem to remember TS saying something about watching and seeing everything here, every day, too, even though he was holding back  albino/ on posting...

Seeing with our eyes, is fun...makes us oooh and aaahh and wonder, not believe.

Believing makes us SEE. bounce/ albino/  Do you feel what I feel?  Feels like he's breathing the word, "BeLIEve  "...  ;)) bearhug
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 12, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
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anewfan - it DEFINITELY sounds like I should've gone in the evening instead of the afternoon.  Ahh, if only I had known!

What's interesting is that you are convinced this hatman was real and not MJ.  You're probably right.  I think MJ was Dave Dave on Larry King only, I think it's entirely possible that MJ was the old dancing guy in HT one time (not all the subsequent or previous appearances by old dancing guy).  Both disguises based on real people.  The same could be for this hatman with Branca.  MJ most likely appeared as him on X Factor (again, a one time disguise based on a real person) but the real guy was with Branca on Saturday night at fanfest.

What's also interesting is you had stated when you and momof3kids were going to be there, and I had said before the weekend that I would try to go then as well. (And I really wish I had re-arranged my plans to be there - UGH!)  We both stated on this public forum read by who knows that we would be there and then Branca and hatman show up, perhaps knowing full well hoax peeps would be there, ever watchful.  Obviously we would've recognized Branca (which you did anewfan, same with hatman especially considering he's been a hot topic recently).  I do think you saw what you were meant to see and told us as was hoped.  I could be over analyzing but maybe not...

Well, Andrea...you were definitely in our thoughts. It was actually a running joke all night. Whenever we would see a girl by herself, we would jokingly say, Andrea? We have no idea how old you are or what you look like. All I said was, she sounds like she's in her 20's the way she types...not much to go on. Ha! Ha! 

As far as hatman goes...you do make some good points. We may never know how many times MJ was hidden right in plain sight!  All I know is that Fanfest and the Cirque show were absolutely indescribable. It is definitely something I will never forget, and I am so grateful that I was fortunate enough to get to go see it all.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Andrea on December 12, 2011, 07:04:24 PM
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anewfan - it DEFINITELY sounds like I should've gone in the evening instead of the afternoon.  Ahh, if only I had known!

What's interesting is that you are convinced this hatman was real and not MJ.  You're probably right.  I think MJ was Dave Dave on Larry King only, I think it's entirely possible that MJ was the old dancing guy in HT one time (not all the subsequent or previous appearances by old dancing guy).  Both disguises based on real people.  The same could be for this hatman with Branca.  MJ most likely appeared as him on X Factor (again, a one time disguise based on a real person) but the real guy was with Branca on Saturday night at fanfest.

What's also interesting is you had stated when you and momof3kids were going to be there, and I had said before the weekend that I would try to go then as well. (And I really wish I had re-arranged my plans to be there - UGH!)  We both stated on this public forum read by who knows that we would be there and then Branca and hatman show up, perhaps knowing full well hoax peeps would be there, ever watchful.  Obviously we would've recognized Branca (which you did anewfan, same with hatman especially considering he's been a hot topic recently).  I do think you saw what you were meant to see and told us as was hoped.  I could be over analyzing but maybe not...

Well, Andrea...you were definitely in our thoughts. It was actually a running joke all night. Whenever we would see a girl by herself, we would jokingly say, Andrea? We have no idea how old you are or what you look like. All I said was, she sounds like she's in her 20's the way she types...not much to go on. Ha! Ha! 

As far as hatman goes...you do make some good points. We may never know how many times MJ was hidden right in plain sight!  All I know is that Fanfest and the Cirque show were absolutely indescribable. It is definitely something I will never forget, and I am so grateful that I was fortunate enough to get to go see it all.

Awww, I wish I could've meet you and your friends.  I sound like I'm in my 20's?  Well I am 29 for another four months or so, you're correct!  :lol:  I totally agree that Fanfest and Immortal were indescribable.  It was almost surreal the entire time.  I was just glowing and in the best mood during and after the Cirque show.  We were stuck in a sea of people making our way out of the convention center after the show ended and the feeling in the air was so awesome that it was entirely contagious and powerful.

And yes, as for hatman, Michael would often perform on stage wearing hats and was regularly seen wearing hats - it would seem he's been continuing with that, in a differently creative way, since June 25/09.

Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 12, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
Andrea
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What's also interesting is you had stated when you and momof3kids were going to be there, and I had said before the weekend that I would try to go then as well. (And I really wish I had re-arranged my plans to be there - UGH!)  We both stated on this public forum read by who knows that we would be there and then Branca and hatman show up, perhaps knowing full well hoax peeps would be there, ever watchful.  Obviously we would've recognized Branca (which you did anewfan, same with hatman especially considering he's been a hot topic recently).  I do think you saw what you were meant to see and told us as was hoped.  I could be over analyzing but maybe not...


It would be really interesting if this post/discussion could be found.  Is it possible? Thanks.


Remember that Front started posting in response to a member jokingly saying that Back should come here as "Front".
We know that the pumpkin was moved in the courtroom to show its face in response to requests here.


I seriously think we should not underestimate the relationship of this forum with TS, Front and Michael.  We should not write things off so quickly, until all evidence and possibilities have been thoroughly examined and/or debunked.  Don't mean to be a pain! respect/
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 12, 2011, 07:23:51 PM
Okay...so I was not only on the look out for Andrea, I was in full-out “Spot MJ in disguise” mode at Fanfest. I had the man in the picture in my sights. He was often sitting on the ledge chewing gum rapidly and swinging his feet back and forth looking a bit nervous.

 I was watching him so much that I probably was making him nervous. He would get up a few times and walk to talk to a boy about 11-12 years old and then go back and sit down and just watch. (He would actually shuffle and he even picked his underwear out a few times. Lol!)

I was so convinced that he was MJ in disguise that momof3kids and I sat down by the ledge to listen to him talk and then momof3’s hubby took our picture but really took a picture of “MJ in disguise”. As you can tell by the picture, his hair looks fake as well as his face.

He then headed to the bathroom and I was totally following him to see where he was going. (I feel ridiculous now.) I thought he headed behind the curtain, so we sent my hubby and momof3’s hubby to the bathroom to check things out. (Those poor guys!) They said he was talking on a cell phone in the bathroom and had an Italian-type accent.

He was saying something like “When are you getting here? What time are we going to the show?” Momof3, her hubby, and my hubby are convinced that it was definitely NOT MJ and it was kind of a funny joke about me over-reacting. I’m only about 90% convinced it wasn’t him. He seemed to disappear after that, but the young boy was still there. It was also shortly after that that Branca and hatman came.

So....here I am confessing my ridiculous quest to find MJ in disguise. Ha ha! It was fun and adventurous, but ultimately he wasn’t found.


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Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Andrea on December 12, 2011, 08:29:16 PM
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What's also interesting is you had stated when you and momof3kids were going to be there, and I had said before the weekend that I would try to go then as well. (And I really wish I had re-arranged my plans to be there - UGH!)  We both stated on this public forum read by who knows that we would be there and then Branca and hatman show up, perhaps knowing full well hoax peeps would be there, ever watchful.  Obviously we would've recognized Branca (which you did anewfan, same with hatman especially considering he's been a hot topic recently).  I do think you saw what you were meant to see and told us as was hoped.  I could be over analyzing but maybe not...


It would be really interesting if this post/discussion could be found.  Is it possible? Thanks.



Here it is MJonmind, from Dec 7. 

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21635.msg378050#msg378050

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I'm at work so I haven't been able to watch the video yet but I'm going to Fanfest and the Immortal show this weekend, I will keep my eyes wide open!

I am going this weekend also. What night are you going? I am so excited!

I'm so excited too!!!  Immortal show on Friday and I think I'll go to Fanfest on Saturday.  I'm on my own for Fanfest but that means I can take my time, lol.  When are you going??

We are doing both on Saturday. We are going to Fanfest at 5:00 and the Cirque show at 10:30.

I'll try and go to Fanfest at 5 as well, it would be really cool to meet in real life!  I'll be the girl by herself who  every now and then will say to the people nearby "anewfan?"  :lol:

Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Andrea on December 12, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
@ anewfan - That's too funny although I'm sure I would've given that guy the side-eye as well. :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: momof3kids on December 12, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
Anewfan......reading your story made me laugh so hard!  You totally told it perfectly.....I hope we didn't scare the poor man by staring and checking him out like that and then having our husbands follow him into the bathroom!!  Looking at the pic, I think his eyes do resemble Michaels though! Maybe we were right about him after all??!  Lol!
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: anewfan on December 12, 2011, 11:17:13 PM
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Anewfan......reading your story made me laugh so hard!  You totally told it perfectly.....I hope we didn't scare the poor man by staring and checking him out like that and then having our husbands follow him into the bathroom!!  Looking at the pic, I think his eyes do resemble Michaels though! Maybe we were right about him after all??!  Lol!

It was fun! Wasn't it? Lol! Good thing our hubbies are good troopers and supporting our (okay my) ridiculous quests to find MJ.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 13, 2011, 12:17:48 AM
That was funny, and Andrea too!  No way my guy would have been so willing! argue/
Thanks for finding the plan dates and times.  I guess we'll have to wait for more info on this another unconfirmed sighting at X-factor, like ALL the other times. :( suspicious//
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Adi on December 13, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
anewfan and mumof3kids........you guys are hilarious!

Sounds like you had a fun time.

I reckon if I had of been there I would have been checking everyone out too for tell-tale signs of disguises!

:)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Delia on December 13, 2011, 03:43:05 PM
I think this hat man doesn*t look like the one from XFACTOR. Maybe only representing the same person.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MJonmind on December 13, 2011, 03:53:10 PM
I think Michael knows how to cover his tracks. /cook/  I think that was him on X-factor, but not at Fanfest. Just my hunch. ;) 


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Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: LoveShyMichael on December 13, 2011, 06:48:11 PM
Has anyone noticed the x-factor hat man, wears the very similiar shoes that Michael usually wears?
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: MissG on December 13, 2011, 08:33:09 PM
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Okay...so I was not only on the look out for Andrea, I was in full-out “Spot MJ in disguise” mode at Fanfest. I had the man in the picture in my sights. He was often sitting on the ledge chewing gum rapidly and swinging his feet back and forth looking a bit nervous.

 I was watching him so much that I probably was making him nervous. He would get up a few times and walk to talk to a boy about 11-12 years old and then go back and sit down and just watch. (He would actually shuffle and he even picked his underwear out a few times. Lol!)

I was so convinced that he was MJ in disguise that momof3kids and I sat down by the ledge to listen to him talk and then momof3’s hubby took our picture but really took a picture of “MJ in disguise”. As you can tell by the picture, his hair looks fake as well as his face.

He then headed to the bathroom and I was totally following him to see where he was going. (I feel ridiculous now.) I thought he headed behind the curtain, so we sent my hubby and momof3’s hubby to the bathroom to check things out. (Those poor guys!) They said he was talking on a cell phone in the bathroom and had an Italian-type accent.

He was saying something like “When are you getting here? What time are we going to the show?” Momof3, her hubby, and my hubby are convinced that it was definitely NOT MJ and it was kind of a funny joke about me over-reacting. I’m only about 90% convinced it wasn’t him. He seemed to disappear after that, but the young boy was still there. It was also shortly after that that Branca and hatman came.

So....here I am confessing my ridiculous quest to find MJ in disguise. Ha ha! It was fun and adventurous, but ultimately he wasn’t found.


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HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA That was FUNNY . Your husbands are saints lol lol lol. I would have loved to participate in it.
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: mindseye on December 16, 2011, 05:47:27 PM
I agree that the xfactor hatman could be him disguised as someone unknown in the inner circle. Smart idea.  mj_dance/ That's a funny story about the mystery Fanfest man, great photo!  Too bad I wasn't there that night, I went Tues. afternoon. About the photo, I think his eyebrows and hair looks fake, long jawline and sunken cheek area. What if it was him? Shuffling to hide his strut and keep from dancing to the music, padding under clothes causing underwear to ride, and he went to the washroom to see if the guys would follow  :lol: Bit off topic, at Fanfest I took many photos of living room area, I was curious about the books. On the table was the open album with the photo of fans holding the banner 'Michael you're an angel in disguise!' Yes he was, is.  :)
Title: Re: Shocking PROOF MICHAEL WAS ON XFACTOR !
Post by: Delia on December 17, 2011, 05:10:57 AM
LoveShyMichael very good point about the shoes !
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