Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: XspeechlessX on December 26, 2009, 08:47:13 AM
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I have the book "Michael Jackson King Of Pop, 1958 - 2009" It says that "Michael's entourage had followed the ambulance...including his brother Randy who had also been with him when he collapsed."
Is this true? I did not know this....
L.O.V.E
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ooo i dunno but it sounds interesting.. i've just bought 3 hardback brand new books for like £2 each off amazon.. tribute books.. i'm sure they should have something in them.. i'll keep an eye out 2.. :ugeek: :shock:
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Hmm.. well this is a new one. And not something i think Randy has confirmed?
The writer of this book is Chris Roberts. I dont know anything about him, but i wonder who is source was for this information?
Ive done a quick google search and cant find anything that collaberates this, but most of the articles i found seem to state that Randy was one of the first siblings to find out the news of MJ going to hospital.
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... er_1107820 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/randy-and-jermaines-stunned-tears-for-brother_1107820)
Other articles i have read say that Latoyah was the first of the siblings to arrive at the hospital.
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I've never heard of it on the news. There are too many different versions to the same fact, and it's confusing. :?
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I really doubt it..specially if the story Murray told is true..
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I really doubt it..specially if the story Murray told is true..
I dont think the story Murray told is true. :lol:
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I really doubt it..specially if the story Murray told is true..
I dont think the story Murray told is true. :lol:
well I don't even know what I think anymore :lol:
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Hmm.. well this is a new one. And not something i think Randy has confirmed?
The writer of this book is Chris Roberts. I dont know anything about him, but i wonder who is source was for this information?
Ive done a quick google search and cant find anything that collaberates this, but most of the articles i found seem to state that Randy was one of the first siblings to find out the news of MJ going to hospital.
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... er_1107820 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/randy-and-jermaines-stunned-tears-for-brother_1107820)
Other articles i have read say that Latoyah was the first of the siblings to arrive at the hospital.
Noo.. this one is by Emily Herbert.... :?
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I think there's a confuion with the story of 2003 alleged overdose:
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... ew_1107962 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-took-morphine-overdose-following-bashir-interview_1107962)
the qustion is, was is true.
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I think there's a confuion with the story of 2003 alleged overdose:
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... ew_1107962 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-took-morphine-overdose-following-bashir-interview_1107962)
the qustion is, was is true.
If true, then that article is heart breaking. The fact the doctor wanted to help and pleaded with the family but was cut out and ignored is immensely sad.
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I think there's a confuion with the story of 2003 alleged overdose:
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... ew_1107962 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-took-morphine-overdose-following-bashir-interview_1107962)
the qustion is, was is true.
If true, then that article is heart breaking. The fact the doctor wanted to help and pleaded with the family but was cut out and ignored is immensely sad.
:cry:
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If true, then that article is heart breaking. The fact the doctor wanted to help and pleaded with the family but was cut out and ignored is immensely sad.
:cry:
When MJ's brothers were on LKL to talk about their TV show, didn't they say they knew NOTHING about the problem? What was the point of that lie (if a lie) when even Janet admitted there WAS a problem and family tried to intervene. I read on another forum that the fact that initial reports of demerol overdose could be changed later to propofol intoxication because propofol is not a drug in a negative sense (even Marlon pointed that out on LKL), and it's because the family didn't want MJ name to be associated with 'drugs' for the sake of his legacy and his children. I strongly hope this is not the case. To me it looks like people deliberately mess up their stories, so in the end of the day we can never be sure whether there was a severe drug problem or not. I tend to believe the truth usually lies in the middle. "He's in safe keepings now".
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If true, then that article is heart breaking. The fact the doctor wanted to help and pleaded with the family but was cut out and ignored is immensely sad.
:cry:
When MJ's brothers were on LKL to talk about their TV show, didn't they say they knew NOTHING about the problem? What was the point of that lie (if a lie) when even Janet admitted there WAS a problem and family tried to intervene. I read on another forum that the fact that initial reports of demerol overdose could be changed later to propofol intoxication because propofol is not a drug in a negative sense (even Marlon pointed that out on LKL), and it's because the family didn't want MJ name to be associated with 'drugs' for the sake of his legacy and his children. I strongly hope this is not the case. To me it looks like people deliberately mess up their stories, so in the end of the day we can never be sure whether there was a severe drug problem or not. I tend to believe the truth usually lies in the middle. "He's in safe keepings now".
I agree..
or the brothers were just denying they knew about the addiction so then they wouldn't look responsible for doing nothing..
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I've never heard of it on the news. There are too many different versions to the same fact, and it's confusing. :?
Exactly. And is why we continue to believe there's a hoax. Seems as if there are always 2-3 different versions of every story.
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Isn't the notion of Michael collapsing called into question? One of the first accounts we heard was that Michael got up and then collapsed in front of the eldest Prince and Prince thought MJ was playing around. But then, we were told over and over that Michael was trying to sleep under the influence of the drugs that Murray gave him in the IV and he never woke up from the night before. I also heard news accounts that MJ woke up, told Murray he wasn't feeling well and Murray told him to go back to bed. So, which is it? Part of why I believe in the hoax is because there are so many different stories.
Also, why would Randy be at MJ's house in the morning? Although I think that Randy is a major support to MJ and is helping with the hoax, there wouldn't be any other reason for Randy to have just been hanging around that morning - presumably.
Something else I keep wondering about. I thought we were told that propofol stays in your system for a very short time and is therefore almost undetectable. If this is true, how could the autopsy report that there were lethal levels of it in MJ's system? :?: :?: :?:
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Whoa, man. I have that book and I haven't read the death part yet. -goes to read-
I never knew Randy was there when Michael collapsed. If that's true, then where was Randy when the 911 call was made? o_O
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For anyone who wants that book-there is a pound shop in oxford uk which is selling this for.......................yes a pound.i got one on xmas eve!
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For anyone who wants that book-there is a pound shop in oxford uk which is selling this for.......................yes a pound.i got one on xmas eve!
ohhhh mannn... i've just paid £2 on amazon... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I really doubt it..specially if the story Murray told is true..
I dont think the story Murray told is true. :lol:
well I don't even know what I think anymore :lol:
Well, we don't know what Murray actually said. Would be even worse, if the story the later reports said was true ("dead for hours").
Why would Alberto Alvaret have made the 911 call instead of Randy, if he and Murray were with him?
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Nothing fits....
all these contradictions :? :roll:
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Could the author have got confused with Randy Phillips who supposedly saw MJ on life support in the hospital and who said, that although he wasnt at the house at the time, rushed there in time to follow the ambulance to the hospital?
Here is a link which has a video of the interview with Randy Phillips:
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12 ... traps.html (http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12/michael-jackson-no-iv-no-straps.html)
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For anyone who wants that book-there is a pound shop in oxford uk which is selling this for.......................yes a pound.i got one on xmas eve!
ohhhh mannn... i've just paid £2 on amazon... :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's still not bad though! I thought it was my birthday when I found this!!!! :D
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Could the author have got confused with Randy Phillips who supposedly saw MJ on life support in the hospital and who said, that although he wasnt at the house at the time, rushed there in time to follow the ambulance to the hospital?
Here is a link which has a video of the interview with Randy Phillips:
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12 ... traps.html (http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12/michael-jackson-no-iv-no-straps.html)
I believe if you write a book you won't make such a slip-up. You do your research.
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Could the author have got confused with Randy Phillips who supposedly saw MJ on life support in the hospital and who said, that although he wasnt at the house at the time, rushed there in time to follow the ambulance to the hospital?
Here is a link which has a video of the interview with Randy Phillips:
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12 ... traps.html (http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12/michael-jackson-no-iv-no-straps.html)
I believe if you write a book you won't make such a slip-up. You do your research.
Books are filled with mistakes, errors, and slip-ups ALL the time.
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Could the author have got confused with Randy Phillips who supposedly saw MJ on life support in the hospital and who said, that although he wasnt at the house at the time, rushed there in time to follow the ambulance to the hospital?
Here is a link which has a video of the interview with Randy Phillips:
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12 ... traps.html (http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/12/michael-jackson-no-iv-no-straps.html)
I believe if you write a book you won't make such a slip-up. You do your research.
Books are filled with mistakes, errors, and slip-ups ALL the time.
I know, but something that huge?
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Randy was in the car with LaToya when they arrived at the hospital
(http://i46.tinypic.com/f21p2w.jpg)
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Randy was in the car with LaToya when they arrived at the hospital
(http://i46.tinypic.com/f21p2w.jpg)
she said that she was alone at home when she find out and almost crashed while came to the hospital...her statements were a complete mess
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We've heard so many conflicting stories, who knows what the truth is. :?
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Whoa, man. I have that book and I haven't read the death part yet. -goes to read-
I never knew Randy was there when Michael collapsed. If that's true, then where was Randy when the 911 call was made? o_O
and why didnt he call 911 while the doc was on the phone for 47 mins ?? :?
Book also says that...ha had been rehearsing that day and they finished at 12.30am....
....I thought murray found him at 11 or something... ??
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Whoa, man. I have that book and I haven't read the death part yet. -goes to read-
I never knew Randy was there when Michael collapsed. If that's true, then where was Randy when the 911 call was made? o_O
and why didnt he call 911 while the doc was on the phone for 47 mins ?? :?
Book also says that...ha had been rehearsing that day and they finished at 12.30am....
....I thought murray found him at 11 or something... ??
Nothing makes sense.
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Will it ever make sense?... :?
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Will it ever make sense?... :?
Quite simply....
No.
:roll:
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Michael-Jackson ... 151&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Michael-Jackson-1958-2009-Unseen-Archives/dp/1407587927/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261867151&sr=1-1)
i have this one..... if its the same one i havent really looked at the death parts of it, but the pics are absolutley fantastic ( not the death ones )
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I have that! :P :P :P
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I have that! :P :P :P
it was quite a great xmas present...... out of the MJ things i got for christmas :D
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I dont know why my mind is not accepting the whole drug story from day 1 , he cant kill a bug ( thats what we saw during his history tour concert) i dont know why i find it too hard to believe he almost collapsed due to morphine overdose in 2003 , taking tablets by mouth is something else but injecting lethal drugs ........moreover when someone know they can be too dangerous . i agree sometimes in our lives we give up hope to live but to commit suicide or causing self harm by injectable needs alot of courage specially when mj himself admitted he hates needles , these are all stories leaking from media just to defame mj i guess :(
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sure want the Dirty Diana Rehersal supposed to be filmed on the 25th?
yet one of the band discussed it in an interview, and its on the This is it DVD !
so it really looks like absolutley NOBODY can keep their stories straight :lol:
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Whoa, man. I have that book and I haven't read the death part yet. -goes to read-
I never knew Randy was there when Michael collapsed. If that's true, then where was Randy when the 911 call was made? o_O
and why didnt he call 911 while the doc was on the phone for 47 mins ?? :?
Book also says that...ha had been rehearsing that day and they finished at 12.30am....
....I thought murray found him at 11 or something... ??
To clear this one up, my understanding of this timeline is that they finished rehearsal on 25th June at 0030hrs in the morning (so half past midnight) and Dr Murray found him at 11am on 25th june... so they finished rehearsals in the early hours of the morning of June 25th and Dr Murray found him in the late morning.
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It`s so incredibly many different stories circulating now that it`s impossible to know what is true, and what is a lie :? It is very confusing when not even the family can tell the same story. There are almost different every time they tell what happened on June 25, not even the same person are able to tell what he/she told the last time they were interviewed :roll: Maybe it`s supposed to confuse us, I do not know.
I have only one word: HOAX ;)
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technically wouldnt 00:30 on the 25th, be the early hours of the 26th, well not technically, but its what most people would refer it as
so for me really it would have to be 00:30 on the 24th to be classed as the 25th
ok i just confused myself :lol:
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technically wouldnt 00:30 on the 25th, be the early hours of the 26th, well not technically, but its what most people would refer it as
so for me really it would have to be 00:30 on the 24th to be classed as the 25th
ok i just confused myself :lol:
No because on the 24 hr clock midnight starts at 0000hrs... so at 0001hrs it is the start of the new day which finishes at 2359hrs.
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technically wouldnt 00:30 on the 25th, be the early hours of the 26th, well not technically, but its what most people would refer it as
so for me really it would have to be 00:30 on the 24th to be classed as the 25th
ok i just confused myself :lol:
No because on the 24 hr clock midnight starts at 0000hrs... so at 0001hrs it is the start of the new day which finishes at 2359hrs.
yea i know that :lol: but ....... ahh hell with it :lol: if i try and counter that im officially going to confuse things :lol: