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Title: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: MaryK on July 25, 2012, 06:36:24 PM
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 In an exclusive interview with ABC News, Katherine Jackson said she is "devastated" her grandchildren have been "taken away" from her and she's returning to Los Angeles to be reunited with them today.

"I am devastated that while I've been away, my grandchildren have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home," she said.

The 82-year-old Jackson family matriarch also addressed rumors concerning her whereabouts.

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped," she said. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am good and fine."

"My children would never do anything to me like that," she added.

Katherine Jackson said today's court ruling that made TJ Jackson the temporary guardian of Paris Michael, Prince Michael, and Prince Michael II was "based on a bunch of lies." She explained that her stay in Arizona at the Miraval Resort & Spa was a "short vacation and rest."

As for not calling her grandchildren for days, Katherine Jackson said, "One reason I didn't call is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here."
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 25, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
So she's doing an interview on nightline in 40 minutes or something ( 5 pm LA time or NY time I am not sure)
Yawn, its 1.40 am here and I am sooo tired, sometimes time differences sux!

Check back with ABCNews.com for Katherine Jackson's full statement, and watch her statement tonight on "Nightline."
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 25, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
"based on a bunch of lies." made me think of Front's "Blame it on the balony" Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg417888#msg417888)
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 25, 2012, 07:13:18 PM
Reminds me of Joe Jackson on Larry King where he say "That's a bunch of ***bullsh*t"

And then he says "Thats a bunch of Jive"

It still doesn't explain why Katherine didn't tell the children what was going on...That's what we want to know....
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: Adi on July 25, 2012, 07:18:50 PM
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I am here today to let everybody to know...


Reminds me of They Don't Care About Us

I'm here to remind you
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: bec on July 25, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
@2good2btrue:
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It still doesn't explain why Katherine didn't tell the children what was going on...That's what we want to know....

Speak for yourself. I don't want to know that. What gives us the right to know? What gives us the right to speculate that she didn't? What do we care if she did or she didn't? What business is it of ours? Why don't we worry about our own lives instead of casting judgement and scrutiny on the lives of other people?

There are lessons being taught here...
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: SimPattyK on July 25, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
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"based on a bunch of lies." made me think of Front's "Blame it on the balony" Official back & Front thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=5167.msg417888#msg417888)
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Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: mjselfsweet on July 25, 2012, 08:48:50 PM
I agree Bec. I cant imagine Katherine leaving, and not telling the children where she was going. she loves them as she loved Michael. My take on it is.. The children didnt know about "The Letter".  It was posted in paris's twitter, that someone mentioned it to her,,, she saw the letter,, then she sees the part about Katherine having a stroke, took it the wrong way,, ranted about it to uncle randy,, apologized, wanted to speak to grandma, that didnt happen,, then it all got blown out of proportion by twitter, fans, non fans, media, tab asses,, then you have the brothers tryin to make it up to the kids,,, kids go to their concert.. then they all try to go to calabasas home, TJ is all up in arms,, gets the kids all up in arms,, confrontations,, still no word from grandma... tsk tsk,, more tab asses and media reports, blowin it up, speculating...... IT IS  a CIRCUS.  its just sad to me. too much publicity, too much of noone knowing whats really going on......and i dont know if i think MJ is involved, around or even knows of this....i personally cant believe he would want this stuff out there in the public,,, i thought he loved his privacy.

so much for miss katherine's rest and relaxation.................... :Pulling_hair:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: PrincessMuffybear on July 25, 2012, 08:49:49 PM
I think it is counterintuitive to think that Mrs. Jackson would NOT give her grandchildren a "heads up" on her whereabouts--providing--she knew where she was headed ahead of time.  Michael has always spoken very kindly of his mother--the bond between them appears very strong.  Those kids have been in the best of hands and I don't for a minute think anything has changed in that regard.

Too bad that has been so quickly forgotten by some of his "fans".  :/
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: mindseye on July 25, 2012, 09:13:35 PM
Transcript of Katherine Jackson's Statement to ABC News:


Katherine Jackson Says Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies': Exclusive - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/katherine-jackson-court-hearing-based-bunch-lies-exclusive/story?id=16857775&page=2#.UBCmTPXNnQM)  at the end of the statement...

I have to thank Miraval again for taking very good care of me and making sure I got good rest.

We don't get much -- we saw an electric show because it was lightening and we saw a rainbow. ...  :suspect:  umm okay

I had a very good time here -- and if anyone wants to rest I think they should come here.

Because there's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense. So I want to say goodbye and I am on my way home.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: pippi713713 on July 25, 2012, 09:30:21 PM
ABC Excerpt

My assistant, Janice Smith, have been calling back home to see how things were going and she had been keeping in contact with my nephew, I mean my grandson, and he says everything is going fine. But I was still thinking about the children and I still worry about them, but they are fine.

When I read this, I thought it was weird that she said nephew. TJ is Michael's nephew, and if Michael wrote this script for Katherine and they went over the lines together, she may have automatically said nephew because Michael may have said "Make sure to talk about my nephew TJ" or something like that. I might be reading too much into that slip up lol.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: mindseye on July 25, 2012, 10:48:22 PM
I just watched Nightline which showed part of the interview, strange indeed. Katherine was reading from a 'script', with Janet helping out once when she lost her place reading. After saying my nephew, she stopped and laughed, seemed nervous. I kind of felt bad for her. Definitely sounds like MJ wrote it. For a moment it looked like Janet was trying not to smile.  :suspect:

It ends with her saying, So I want to say goodbye and I am on my way home. And i'm thinking, sounds to be written by MJ...   I am on my way home?  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: bec on July 25, 2012, 11:44:29 PM
Just for reference:

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Hello, I'm Katherine Jackson, and there are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will.

I am here today to let everybody know that I am fine and I am here with my children, and my children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that.

But anyway, I am devastated that while I've been away, that my children, my grandchildren, have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home to see about that, also.

So I spoke to my grandson, TJ, last night, that I left there to be in charge of my children -- and I never leave home without leaving them with instructions of who to stay there with them, the nanny and all of them -- and someone had let go the cook, the nanny, and also the housekeepers. I don't know who did that but they don't have that power and they shouldn't have done it.

And now, the people are saying they are there with nothing to eat. I am sure they have something to eat but it's probably not healthy because the cook is not there.

But since I have also been away, my guardianship, which I just said, my children, have been taken away from me, my guardianship has been taken away from me. And, but, I spoke to my grandson TJ and also I spoke to Prince and Paris last night and told him I would be home today and they're waiting for me to come.

And I told him it wasn't necessary for him to go down and sign for guardianship. ... I don't know who instructed him to do that -- but that's what, but he wanted me to come home before that happened, but the ruling in court today was about the guardianship and I think it was based on a bunch of lies, but I have a good idea who's doing that and who's behind that.

But I am grateful for my children that they saw that I needed rest and they wanted to take me away for a while, just a short vacation and rest up. But one thing I have to say ... that I'm here at Miraval. They have taken good care of me and have made sure that I got the rest that I needed.

One reason I haven't called is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here.

My assistant, Janice Smith, have been calling back home to see how things were going and she had been keeping in contact with my nephew, I mean my grandson, and he says everything is going fine. But I was still thinking about the children and I still worry about them, but they are fine.

Before I left, as I said, I put everything in order with the appropriate people to take care of my children for me and it's really bad to hear that what's going on at home, and the children have been taken away -- but I know that ... I'll get there in time to get them back. And after I finish this, I will be on my way home.

I have to thank Miraval again for taking very good care of me and making sure I got good rest.

We don't get much -- we saw an electric show because it was lightening and we saw a rainbow.

I had a very good time here -- and if anyone wants to rest I think they should come here.

Because there's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense. So I want to say goodbye and I am on my way home.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: alfarle on July 25, 2012, 11:50:29 PM
My mom just called me and said that she saw the video of Mrs. Katherine Jackson giving the statement...I'm glad I didn't see it because she said that Katherine seemed really upset and sad. :( May God bless all their hearts.... :(
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: bec on July 25, 2012, 11:52:27 PM
wait...

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and she had been keeping in contact with my nephew, I mean my grandson, and he says everything is going fine.

... TJ is MJ's nephew.

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Before I left, as I said, I put everything in order with the appropriate people to take care of my children for me and it's really bad to hear that what's going on at home, and the children have been taken away -- but I know that ... I'll get there in time to get them back. And after I finish this, I will be on my way home.
ah yes, I see what you mean mindseye.

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Because there's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense.
:icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: RK on July 26, 2012, 12:34:49 AM
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- and someone had let go the cook, the nanny, and also the housekeepers. I don't know who did that but they don't have that power and they shouldn't have done it.
Reminds me of the staff being escorted off the grounds at Carolwood on THAT day.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 26, 2012, 12:50:29 AM
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Just for reference:

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Hello, I'm Katherine Jackson, and there are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will.

I am here today to let everybody know that I am fine and I am here with my children, and my children would never do a thing to me like that, holding me against my will. It's very stupid for people to think that.

But anyway, I am devastated that while I've been away, that my children, my grandchildren, have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home to see about that, also.

So I spoke to my grandson, TJ, last night, that I left there to be in charge of my children -- and I never leave home without leaving them with instructions of who to stay there with them, the nanny and all of them -- and someone had let go the cook, the nanny, and also the housekeepers. I don't know who did that but they don't have that power and they shouldn't have done it.

And now, the people are saying they are there with nothing to eat. I am sure they have something to eat but it's probably not healthy because the cook is not there.

But since I have also been away, my guardianship, which I just said, my children, have been taken away from me, my guardianship has been taken away from me. And, but, I spoke to my grandson TJ and also I spoke to Prince and Paris last night and told him I would be home today and they're waiting for me to come.

And I told him it wasn't necessary for him to go down and sign for guardianship. ... I don't know who instructed him to do that -- but that's what, but he wanted me to come home before that happened, but the ruling in court today was about the guardianship and I think it was based on a bunch of lies, but I have a good idea who's doing that and who's behind that.

But I am grateful for my children that they saw that I needed rest and they wanted to take me away for a while, just a short vacation and rest up. But one thing I have to say ... that I'm here at Miraval. They have taken good care of me and have made sure that I got the rest that I needed.

One reason I haven't called is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here.

My assistant, Janice Smith, have been calling back home to see how things were going and she had been keeping in contact with my nephew, I mean my grandson, and he says everything is going fine. But I was still thinking about the children and I still worry about them, but they are fine.

Before I left, as I said, I put everything in order with the appropriate people to take care of my children for me and it's really bad to hear that what's going on at home, and the children have been taken away -- but I know that ... I'll get there in time to get them back. And after I finish this, I will be on my way home.

I have to thank Miraval again for taking very good care of me and making sure I got good rest.

We don't get much -- we saw an electric show because it was lightening and we saw a rainbow.

I had a very good time here -- and if anyone wants to rest I think they should come here.

Because there's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense. So I want to say goodbye and I am on my way home.

Sounds like something Michael would say.

"there are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped and held against my will"

"while I've been away, that my children, my grandchildren, have been taken away from me, and I'm coming home to see about that, also."

"I never leave home without leaving them with instructions"

"since I have also been away, my guardianship, which I just said, my children, have been taken away from me, my guardianship has been taken away from me"

"I am grateful for my children that they saw that I needed rest and they wanted to take me away for a while, just a short vacation and rest up"

"Before I left, as I said, I put everything in order with the appropriate people to take care of my children for me"

"Because there's a lot of lies that have been put out there and I am going home to straighten them out and this kind of stuff doesn't make sense. So I want to say goodbye and I am on my way home."
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 26, 2012, 01:11:56 AM
 :icon_e_wink:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54S5R3GmnJU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: MJonmind on July 26, 2012, 01:13:54 AM
Great little message by Katherine!  Loved hearing the Will you be there, song at the end. :icon_e_biggrin:

I agree that it sounds also like what Michael would/could say, kind of a dual message, which is cool!  But legitimately KJ can say nephew because Trent Jackson was supposedly there at Calabasas as well.

RK, yea it was Tohme Tohme I think.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: RememberHisTime on July 26, 2012, 03:39:42 AM
I don't really know what to make of all these goings-on lately. Sometimes I think the media jumped on a harmless situation and made it out to be way more dramatic than it really is. Regardless of the motives of the adults in this situation, I am really more concerned about Prince, Paris, and Blanket. It must be a confusing and troubling time for them. I really feel for them and hope that things will work out for the best. L.O.V.E. and support to them.

But something caught my attention in the video. This is all one continuous quote which I have broken down:

"Strange." Like "bizarre," a word many a tabloid applied to Michael.

"The way it sounded, I never heard her talk like that." Because it was scripted? Because it was scripted by Michael, and thus those words are his and not Katharine's?

"Some words sounded slurred." A recording taken by Conrad Murray of MJ's voice sounding "slurred" was supposed to suggest that he was addicted to drugs.

Anyone else pick up on that? Or is it all just coincidence...?
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: SimPattyK on July 26, 2012, 03:45:24 AM
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:icon_e_wink:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54S5R3GmnJU[/youtube]
TKS for sharing!

Who is sitting next to Mrs. Katherine dressed in PINK ?
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: SimPattyK on July 26, 2012, 03:48:50 AM
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[...]

Anyone else pick up on that? Or is it all just coincidence...?
No coincidence. Yes "slurred" has been talked about yesterday in some of the MANY threads loll It's really impossible to keep their track... It's a bombardment of "breaking news" these days.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 26, 2012, 03:50:18 AM
So I guess nothing can be pink anymore? People wear pink, lots of them. It's not all hoax related, it's simply a color that you see a lot, especially in summer.

And that's Rebbie's daughter. Can we please stop to see a connection in EVERYTHING? If the whole family is wearing pink, fine. But not just sometimes one or two wearing pink, it's getting annoying.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 26, 2012, 10:53:32 AM
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It still doesn't explain why Katherine didn't tell the children what was going on...That's what we want to know....

because none of it is real.


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Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 26, 2012, 11:48:05 AM
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:icon_e_wink:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54S5R3GmnJU[/youtube]

Thanks for sharing, at min 0:06 the reporter said: "the King of Pop maybe gone" but he might continue saying but Michael is still here, right?  :LolLolLolLol:

@Aussie.... right, it's all a tale.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: blankie on July 27, 2012, 04:56:42 PM
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@2good2btrue:
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It still doesn't explain why Katherine didn't tell the children what was going on...That's what we want to know....

Speak for yourself. I don't want to know that. What gives us the right to know? What gives us the right to speculate that she didn't? What do we care if she did or she didn't? What business is it of ours? Why don't we worry about our own lives instead of casting judgement and scrutiny on the lives of other people?

There are lessons being taught here...


As always.... great bec !!!!  :icon_razz:

I just hope a lot of serenity for Katherine , she deserves so much  :bearhug:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson 'Devastated,' Court Hearing 'Based on a Bunch of Lies'
Post by: bugsy on July 29, 2012, 09:48:18 PM
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But one thing I have to say ... that I'm here at Miraval. They have taken good care of me and have made sure that I got the rest that I needed.

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I have to thank Miraval again for taking very good care of me and making sure I got good rest.

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I had a very good time here -- and if anyone wants to rest I think they should come here.

reminds me of the The Truman show throwing in some advertising in to the mix of the script
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