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Title: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MJonmind on July 26, 2012, 07:52:00 PM
I was thinking to keep things organized that we could have them listed in one place if possible. 
Please add things you've noticed or read.  Here's one to start:



Katherine claimed she did not call PPB because she gave her phone up to get rest, and that there were no phones where she was a Miraval, however Miraval says there were phones available.

Katherine Jackson Had FULL Phone Access at Arizona Resort | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/26/katherine-jackson-phone-villa-miraval-resort-arizona/)

--is similar to:

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This reminds me of the CM case.  Cm said there was no working phone line in the room, yet we are shown a death scene photo which clearly show a landline phone next to MJ's bed.

Then we have the drama about why didn't CM call an ambulance immediately....He could have called first rather than calling security on his mobile phone etc etc..Parallel similarities if you ask me.

Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: paula-c on July 26, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
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PRINCE JACKSON
My Grandma Was
Mentally ABUSED


All of this is a recount of what happened with MJ?

Well Paula...the world public has been mentally abused by the media and many of them have been falling into their trap, believing all the crap that has been written and said about Michael.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MaryK on July 26, 2012, 08:18:32 PM
Here are a few that I can think of right now:

- reports about how Mrs. Jackson had been kidnapped/Arvizo family claiming that they had been held hostage at Neverland

- TJ claiming that Mrs. Jackson sounded "strange" on the phone, with slurred speech/recording of Michael presented in the CM trial

- reports that Mrs. Jackson might have been drunk when she called TJ/allegations that Michael gave alcohol to kids

- reports that Mrs. Jackson might have been drugged/drug addict image of Michael pushed by the media

- reports that the siblings arranged for a person to IMPERSONATE A DOCTOR/Conrad Murray


Thanks Paula for adding that one! Just saw you already posted that.




Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MaryK on July 26, 2012, 08:25:22 PM
Oh and I have a far-fetched one as well  :icon_lol:

Reports that the kids fled into the canyon behind the house when Janet, Jermaine and Randy went to get them at the Calabasas house/Moonwalker/Speed Demon
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MaryK on July 26, 2012, 08:37:33 PM
And of course, how could I forget that one:

Randy claiming that the will is fraudulent and posting a pic of the signed will with "Michael Joseph Jackson" on it/"Michael Joseph" being used on the death certificate and in the autopsy report as well as in the CM trial and the documents pertaining to that.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Love4Michael on July 26, 2012, 08:43:45 PM
I think the alleged phone calls bring the insomnia aspect into view as well.  You'd expect Katherine would actually be sleeping at 2am and 4am.

The claim of the demanded termination of security and staff just like happened at Carolwood

Claims of physicals being passed with flying colors while others claim they had health concerns
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Adi on July 26, 2012, 09:19:43 PM
Reports that Katherine was convinced to blow off a concert series /MJ and 'This is It' concerts
 
Picture of Katherine playing UNO and standing right next to her is her great grandson LONDON   
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 26, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
Oh - the great-grandson(London) is great!

Thanks for sharing all of these. Here are a couple that I've noticed:

The coke can in the middle of the table in the KJ photo - Coke suspected as being a sponsor in this hoax.

The security tape that was "leaked" to TMZ resembles one of MJ returning home the early hours of 6/25.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: mindseye on July 26, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
The headline 'my grandma was mentally abused' reminded of conflicts with AEG /lies and the rumors about how badly they treated him. And Prince's message saying 'I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to' may also be parallel to AEG, adding 50 concerts.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Loveunited on July 26, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
Oh I am so glad you started this thread: I was seeing things all over the place before I left for work this a.m.  Darn work.....\Lets see how about this tweet from Paris last night:

Paris Jacksoη‏@ParisJackson

 milk straight from the carton > milk out of a cup
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: RK on July 26, 2012, 11:01:51 PM
Someone fires and then escorts all the house staff off the grounds at Carolwood after MJ was 'gone' on the 25th June '09.....and someone fires the house staff and sends them away from Calabasas house when Katherine was reported as  missing.
Both houses were rented. Carolwood paid for by AEG and Calabasas paid for by the Estate.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: julia142 on July 26, 2012, 11:11:32 PM
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Someone fires and then escorts all the house staff off the grounds at Carolwood after MJ was 'gone' on the 25th June '09.....and someone fires the house staff and sends them away from Calabasas house when Katherine was reported as  missing.
Both houses were rented. Carolwood paid for by AEG and Calabasas paid for by the Estate.

Are we seeing a mirror of everything that happened to Michael since many many years, tied up in just a few days with what we are witnessing with the Jackson family, like if we would play the movie of Michael's life in fast forward?

Do you get what I mean? I have a hard time now expressing what I want to say, maybe someone will understand and have better words, lol!
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 26, 2012, 11:33:03 PM
Hi Julia - I understand and have been saying similar things all week. What I've been saying is it feels like we are in a bad dream where the replay of Michael's life in the news plays over and over yet the players change.

Everything does seem to be going faster - I'm hoping that we are nearing the end of the hoax. I want so bad to see Michael standing next to his children and family while the media have eggs on their faces for running with stories before fully researching them out.

Blessings to you
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: julia142 on July 26, 2012, 11:45:38 PM
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Hi Julia - I understand and have been saying similar things all week. What I've been saying is it feels like we are in a bad dream where the replay of Michael's life in the news plays over and over yet the players change.

Everything does seem to be going faster - I'm hoping that we are nearing the end of the hoax. I want so bad to see Michael standing next to his children and family while the media have eggs on their faces for running with stories before fully researching them out.

Blessings to you

Yes you got it, this is the same kind of feeling I have!!!! You know putting all of those stories that happened to Michael since maybe 15 or 20 years, and the family have put all these stories in only one story happening right now to show how it looks ridiculous when we see the big picture! I would do a video of all the crazy story about Michael on fast forward and that would give us what we are experiencing at the moment!
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2012, 12:04:17 AM
Wow, you guys have added so much! This is like Total Recall coming out Aug. 3.

I didn't know the great grand-son's name was London. His Dodo bird with clown feet, and a clock showing 12:21 had clear links to the Dodo, clowns and clocks we've had during the main hoax.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: bec on July 27, 2012, 12:38:57 AM
Total Recall.

I don't think we are almost over though.

There's unfinished business yet.

Oh, for another connection, starting from the very beginning: Katherine is MISSING. MJ is certainly missing.

Don't forget the trash cans lined up out in front of Calabrese like the trash cans lined up in front of Carrolwood.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: curls on July 27, 2012, 01:06:48 AM
Maybe pushing it a bit but how about Trent v Tohme = mysteriously in the background, good guy or bad guy??
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: bec on July 27, 2012, 01:11:15 AM
Oooh good one curls. I don't think that is pushing it. Who is that guy?

You could do the triple connection too and say Katherine made a video statement--Murray made video statement--MJ made video statement-- all were ignored by the press in favor of the juicier made up version they wanted to sell.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Adi on July 27, 2012, 01:12:04 AM
How about this?

Katherine Jackson pictured playing a card game with family after being reported missing / Katherine Jackson pictured going shopping for camping gear just after Michael Jackson "died"
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: curls on July 27, 2012, 01:30:39 AM
(Please allow me an off topic moment while I look into the future and say we'll be linking back to Katherine's video with family around her saying she's coming home, connecting it with MJ's soon to be aired video with family around him saying he's come home!)
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: bec on July 27, 2012, 01:34:00 AM
Also, contrary to carried away reports and assumptions, nothing bad is going on... it's totally innocent, she's just playing a little uno. What could be more wholesome then that??
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2012, 01:52:59 AM
 :icon_lol:  This is all rated for family entertainment - G for general!

The siblings had said they attempted to do an intervention with MJ's drug problem but were denied access to 100 Carolwood. Here Randy, Janet and Jermaine tried to intervene with PPB and were denied access to the Calabasas house.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2012, 03:28:28 AM
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I think the alleged phone calls bring the insomnia aspect into view as well.  You'd expect Katherine would actually be sleeping at 2am and 4am.

The claim of the demanded termination of security and staff just like happened at Carolwood

Claims of physicals being passed with flying colors while others claim they had health concerns



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@RK.....hummmm, I recall someone else passing a physical with flying colors......Michael before TII. 
Wow, it's like we are on a huge hamster wheel, going round and round and round.
I guess if we go far enough down the rabbit hole we come back to the beginning?
Katherine Jackson Passed Medical Check-Up 'With Flying Colors' Last Month | Radar Online (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/katherine-jackson-medical-last-month-passed)
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 27, 2012, 04:12:07 AM
i am so excited to see where this goes. it feels it is building to a crescendo.

 :woohoo2:
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: use_your_illusion on July 27, 2012, 05:31:18 AM
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Reports that Katherine was convinced to blow off a concert series /MJ and 'This is It' concerts
 
Picture of Katherine playing UNO and standing right next to her is her great grandson LONDON

Hmm, I was thinking about the whole London thing, for some reason I'm thinking of MJ's possible connection or comeback at London, it's dubbed 'The Greatest Show on Earth' and with all that has been going on lately, it's making me wonder.

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Total Recall.

I don't think we are almost over though.

There's unfinished business yet.

Oh, for another connection, starting from the very beginning: Katherine is MISSING. MJ is certainly missing.

Don't forget the trash cans lined up out in front of Calabrese like the trash cans lined up in front of Carrolwood.

What unfinished business do you think still needs to be done?...I am thinking that we only have 4 signs from TS, I naturally assume we need 7 or at least 6 before MJ comes back?
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Loveunited on July 27, 2012, 07:36:47 AM
Katherine's statement, Guardianship papers based on lies;  will based on lies
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Loveunited on July 27, 2012, 07:40:57 AM
Family members concerned, denied access to family concerned about...
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: missudi on July 27, 2012, 07:49:41 AM
I heard on the news aswell,The greatest show on earth,then they said,someone is coming,but we dont know who it is :confused:
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: bec on July 27, 2012, 09:09:51 AM
@UYI:
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What unfinished business do you think still needs to be done?

We need to hear from Jordy.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Loveunited on July 27, 2012, 09:14:48 AM
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@UYI:
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What unfinished business do you think still needs to be done?

We need to hear from Jordy.


OOOOOOHHHHHHHH! Perfect!   :judge-smiley:
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: bec on July 27, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
And we WILL... because Front and back both said so.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 27, 2012, 09:54:10 PM
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@UYI:
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What unfinished business do you think still needs to be done?

We need to hear from Jordy.


hate how jackson fans hate jordy. he was as much a victim in this as MJ.

i'd love to see / hear from jordy. it will be the icing on the bam cake!
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: bec on July 27, 2012, 10:04:07 PM
Another connection, I mentioned in another thread regarding Paris's role in all this lately: MJ has proven that the media have no qualms about accusing Paris of being a drama queen or being a brat or even out right lying. Yet they never called into question the Chandler boy's behavior and credibility, and worse, vilified MJ's defense for attempting to do so.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 27, 2012, 10:06:30 PM
so true. good comparison
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MJonmind on July 29, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
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Another connection, I mentioned in another thread regarding Paris's role in all this lately: MJ has proven that the media have no qualms about accusing Paris of being a drama queen or being a brat or even out right lying. Yet they never called into question the Chandler boy's behavior and credibility, and worse, vilified MJ's defense for attempting to do so.
Boy, doesn't that show where their loyalties lie.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: emulik on July 29, 2012, 02:40:59 PM
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(Please allow me an off topic moment while I look into the future and say we'll be linking back to Katherine's video with family around her saying she's coming home, connecting it with MJ's soon to be aired video with family around him saying he's come home!)
what a good psychic you are curls,  I like that vision you just described! I wish that happen  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 29, 2012, 04:25:19 PM
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(Please allow me an off topic moment while I look into the future and say we'll be linking back to Katherine's video with family around her saying she's coming home, connecting it with MJ's soon to be aired video with family around him saying he's come home!)
what a good psychic you are curls,  I like that vision you just described! I wish that happen  :icon_razz:

Ufffff....hope so. :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: Sarahli on July 29, 2012, 06:16:42 PM
What about La Toya not being a part of the family "drama"? Many people would expect her to be in front of the cameras. Maybe with a looong stretch it can be paralelled with the people who didn't participate in the "funeral" but were expected to. I'm thinking Diana Ross for example.
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: curls on July 30, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
What about the estate owning the Calabasas property and therefore having 'control' over Katherine = AEG paying the rent on Carolwood Drive and therefore 'controling' MJ (Wasn't there something about them paying for the toilet paper he wipes his ass on? Sorry, I can't remember off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone said that.)
Title: Re: The July 2012 JACKSON FEUD similarities/connections to MJ and his death hoax
Post by: MaryK on July 30, 2012, 01:20:28 PM
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What about the estate owning the Calabasas property and therefore having 'control' over Katherine = AEG paying the rent on Carolwood Drive and therefore 'controling' MJ (Wasn't there something about them paying for the toilet paper he wipes his ass on? Sorry, I can't remember off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone said that.)

You´re right curls. CM said that.
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