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Title: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Love4Michael on August 14, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
Saw the link on Twitter about 30 minutes ago...

MICHAEL JACKSON
FIRE
At Neverland Ranch
(http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/14/fire-michael-jackson-neverland-ranch-bbq/)

BREAKING NEWS
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/08/14/0814-neverland-ranch-article-getty-3.jpg)

A grease-filled barbeque torpedoed a big party at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch this AM.

A large group was there for the shindig, when the staff lit the BBQ to get the coals hot.  We're told a grease build-up on the system ignited the hood system and caused some panic. 

Three engines from the Santa Barbara County Fire Dept. arrived but the blaze had already been put out.

The BBQ was cancelled.

El Pollo Loco anyone?
Title: Re: Fire at Neverland
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on August 14, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
 ??? A party huh? Pre-bam party perhaps for a successful job pulling off the hoax??
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: paula-c on August 14, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
pollo loco? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 14, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
What party can they possibly have at Neverland now??
The title seems odd: Michael Jackson fire.....does this make sense - Michael Jackson fire??
Language barrier maybe....

Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 14, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
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pollo loco? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:
What does it mean pollo loco?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on August 14, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
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pollo loco? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:
What does it mean pollo loco?
It means crazy chicken in Spanish but El Pollo Loco is a restaurant out here.

Maybe this fire has some connection to the Pepsi fire?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MaryK on August 14, 2012, 03:21:26 PM
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pollo loco? :icon_eek: :icon_lol:
What does it mean pollo loco?

Well literally: Crazy chicken  :icon_lol:

But:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/El_Pollo_Loco_logo.svg/200px-El_Pollo_Loco_logo.svg.png)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Pollo_Loco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Pollo_Loco)
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 14, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
I should have guessed that. Crazy chicken huh :icon_lol:??
I feel like waving Hi to TMZ  ;D.

Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: mjjtruth on August 14, 2012, 03:48:08 PM
huh? that is somehow symbolically...

Fire @ Neverland...

 :icon_e_geek:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on August 14, 2012, 03:49:45 PM
Is there any photos of fire trucks entering or leaving Neverland? Photos of police cars (in MA, USA police cars always accompany a fire truck & vise versa) leaving or entering?. No police talking about the incident yet, on the record? Did this fire actually happen?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MissG on August 14, 2012, 03:52:14 PM
Back to June 25th 2009?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 14, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
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Is there any photos of fire trucks entering or leaving Neverland? Photos of police cars (in MA, USA police cars always accompany a fire truck & vise versa) leaving or entering?. No police talking about the incident yet, on the record? Did this fire actually happen?
that's a very good question.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MJonmind on August 14, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars. Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a damn word that comes out of his mouth."
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: mjjtruth on August 14, 2012, 04:20:27 PM
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars. Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a damn word that comes out of his mouth."

exactly my thought. and this comes in the middle of building opinion about if the will is valid or not. ;)
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on August 14, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
Omg that's hilarious!  :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Andrea on August 14, 2012, 05:49:31 PM
There was another fire at Neverland, this month 6 years ago.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2006-08-25-fire-neverland_x.htm

Actually, the date of that fire is interesting, August 25, because that date was also the incorrect one on the 'autopsy' photo and the date the jumping out of the coroner van vid was released in 2009.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 14, 2012, 05:53:55 PM
MICHAEL JACKSON
FIRE
At Neverland Ranch


  :icon_geek:   ;D
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Andrea on August 14, 2012, 05:56:38 PM
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MICHAEL JACKSON
FIRE
At Neverland Ranch


  :icon_geek:   ;D

 :LolLolLolLol:

Seems his party go out of hand!
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MaryK on August 14, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:

Yes yes  :icon_mrgreen:

Cool facts Andrea.

For some reason I thought of this when I read the article:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12_7u3rdfA[/youtube]

And I looked up the Wiki article for that and, tadaaaaa:

Quote
"The Roof Is on Fire" was a moderate success, and the B-side of the single, "Request Line", did arguably better in terms of radio play at the time and a music video for "Request Line" was released. The music video for "Request Line" had a reference to Michael Jackson's video "Thriller", with Charlie Prince wearing an outfit similar to Jackson's.

Gotta love these random fun facts that pop up while one is doing a search for something hoaxy  :icon_e_wink:
ARG at its best. Very entertaining.  :smiley_abuv:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: blankie on August 14, 2012, 06:12:09 PM
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MICHAEL JACKSON
FIRE
At Neverland Ranch


  :icon_geek:   ;D

 :LolLolLolLol:

Seems his party go out of hand!


WOWWW !!!     :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Andrea on August 14, 2012, 06:14:37 PM
MaryK - Yes, VERY entertaining.  I like it.   :icon_cool:


blankie -  :moonwalk_:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: marumjj on August 14, 2012, 06:34:47 PM
Firefighters bring water water water  :LolLolLolLol:

Posted by: MaryK
Quote
"The Roof Is on Fire" was a moderate success, and the B-side of the single, "Request Line", did arguably better in terms of radio play at the time and a music video for "Request Line" was released. The music video for "Request Line" had a reference to Michael Jackson's video "Thriller", with Charlie Prince wearing an outfit similar to Jackson's.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFcv5DSX-5c[/youtube]

Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MJonmind on August 14, 2012, 06:47:47 PM
There's also a few other possible directions one could go with this:

FIRE is the largest writing, who all did MJ fire and/or supposedly rehire or not? Tohme, Dileo, Grace, Branca,  the list is long.
The gate has Christmas wreaths on like the Carolwood res. hinting to death/ressurrection/BAM?
"NEVERLAND, Once upon a time", hints to the fairy-story or movie this whole hoax/MJ's life is.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: reveron1958 on August 14, 2012, 06:52:32 PM
I know this may sound far fetched......but I was wondering if Paris tweet 'so excited for tomorrow' could be referring to a party at Neverland?

*hides in cupboard again*
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 14, 2012, 06:54:36 PM
Maybe it is their annual "Family Day" picnic...

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=23176.0


For decades, the extended Jackson family has held an annual “Family Day” usually in the late summer, during which all the relatives reunite, cook, play card games and make an effort to limit the fighting and play nice.

“The Jackson’s really pushed hard for Family Day to happen and Katherine was really holding out for it because she wanted things to die down,” an insider told FOX411’s Pop Tarts. “But it got too complicated with certain members being banned from the Calabasas house, although they still wanted to go anyway and thumb it to the estate, but in the end they had to postpone. No new date has been set.”

Despite the hoopla that has surrounded the Jackson family over the last couple of weeks – from mother Katherine being reported as missing and losing her guardianship over Michael’s three children, to several siblings reportedly getting into a altercation requiring police interference at the Calabasas home, to the latest news that several members of the family have been barred from that family home – the famous feuding family still trying to forge ahead with some sort of unity.

There was even talk of the Family Day – which typically draws up to 100 Jackson relatives – going down at Neverland Ranch, although that would require cutting through a significant amount of red tape to ascertain permission. Speaking of the famous sprawling Santa Barbara digs Michael Jackson once called home, we’re also told that MJ’s eldest son, Prince, has for a long time held a strong desire to buy the ranch back outright. But as for Family Day, it is likely that if all goes to plan that the kids will still attend for Katherine’s sake.  “They have gone on occasion before with Michael, and usually stayed close by his side,” continued our source. “But Michael only ever went when he was at a low point.”
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Andrea on August 14, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
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Maybe it is their annual "Family Day" picnic...

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=23176.0


For decades, the extended Jackson family has held an annual “Family Day” usually in the late summer, during which all the relatives reunite, cook, play card games and make an effort to limit the fighting and play nice.

“The Jackson’s really pushed hard for Family Day to happen and Katherine was really holding out for it because she wanted things to die down,” an insider told FOX411’s Pop Tarts. “But it got too complicated with certain members being banned from the Calabasas house, although they still wanted to go anyway and thumb it to the estate, but in the end they had to postpone. No new date has been set.”

Despite the hoopla that has surrounded the Jackson family over the last couple of weeks – from mother Katherine being reported as missing and losing her guardianship over Michael’s three children, to several siblings reportedly getting into a altercation requiring police interference at the Calabasas home, to the latest news that several members of the family have been barred from that family home – the famous feuding family still trying to forge ahead with some sort of unity.

There was even talk of the Family Day – which typically draws up to 100 Jackson relatives – going down at Neverland Ranch, although that would require cutting through a significant amount of red tape to ascertain permission. Speaking of the famous sprawling Santa Barbara digs Michael Jackson once called home, we’re also told that MJ’s eldest son, Prince, has for a long time held a strong desire to buy the ranch back outright. But as for Family Day, it is likely that if all goes to plan that the kids will still attend for Katherine’s sake.  “They have gone on occasion before with Michael, and usually stayed close by his side,” continued our source. “But Michael only ever went when he was at a low point.”

Hey maybe! Paris did tweet she was excited about today, as reveron pointed out.

The irony of that first underlined bit is that the Jacksons take breaks from genuinely being nice to each other and then play fight in front of the cameras, lol.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: mindseye on August 14, 2012, 07:17:00 PM
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I know this may sound far fetched......but I was wondering if Paris tweet 'so excited for tomorrow' could be referring to a party at Neverland?

*hides in cupboard again*

Could be anyone using the ranch, don't think it's a family gathering.... was postponed? My guess was Paris is excited about going to see Motley concert.  :icon_question: The Immortal show is tonight and tomorrow.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/75981.png)
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Jos on August 14, 2012, 07:21:24 PM
I think this would probably fit in here also (?):

@ParisJackson
so excited for tomorrow………

@_MlCHAELJACKSON
Tomorrow.... Can't wait.
Retweeted by Paris Jacksoη

@ParisJackson
@_MlCHAELJACKSON we've been counting down all month lmfao and now were like screaming of excitement.. we're like her:: http://ffinale.tumblr.com/post/29313736105
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 14, 2012, 07:29:45 PM
Nice photo posted on the MJ Facebook today.........resurrection like pose?

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjressomo.jpg)
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 14, 2012, 07:42:16 PM
Santa Ynez radio/newspaper first reported the incident....TMZ copied from it...


Barbecue starts fire at former Neverland Ranch
 
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An improperly maintained outdoor barbecue hood system was the cause of a fire this morning at Sycamore Valley Ranch in Los Olivos, formerly known as Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch.

There were no injuries or damage to any structures, said Capt. David Sadecki, spokesman for the Santa Barbara County Fire Department.

A meal was being prepared at the time of the blaze, and the barbecue has been shut down for repairs, he added.

About 10:08 a.m., three engines responded to a report of a structure fire at 5225 Figueroa Mountain Road, with assistance from the U.S. Forest Service.

The first unit to arrive reported the blaze was out, so the other two engines were called off, Sadecki said.

During its heyday as Jackson’s iconic home, the 2,800-acre ranch property featured a mansion, a zoo and an amusement park with bumper cars, a merry-go-round and Ferris wheel, and was the site of lavish children’s parties and a live televised interview with Oprah Winfrey in 1993 that drew 90 million viewers.

The property also had its own fire department.

http://syvnews.com/news/local/barbecue-starts-fire-at-former-neverland-ranch/article_b6f39ea2-e640-11e1-bf02-0019bb2963f4.html
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MJonmind on August 14, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
2good2btrue, good link to the family day mystery location.
Quote
play card games

like UNO!
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 14, 2012, 08:15:49 PM
OMGosh....I go out for the day, and look what happens  :icon_lol:

I am speechless at the moment......2good...I think it was you that posted about
Family Day....seems the most logical.  I do hope that nobody was hurt and property
damage was very slight.  If it was a BBQ and they caught it in time, I would think
all is OK.  As this is my first thread stop this evening...I'll go check out what else I
missed.........thanks for the info! 

Hot stuff indeed! (crap joke, I know....)

Blessings Always!

Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: bugsy on August 14, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
mmm BBQ, wonder if there was Sausages,  love Sauage sizzle that they sell at the local hard ware store,


Quote
It's sizzle. I'm waiting for my part, it's coming.

would that be nice and I have no keyboard that works completely at ths moment so can not put question marks  :( waiting on replacement
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 14, 2012, 08:47:15 PM
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A grease-filled barbeque torpedoed a big party at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch this AM.

A large group was there for the shindig, when the staff lit the BBQ to get the coals hot.  We're told a grease build-up on the system ignited the hood system and caused some panic. 

So being a bit of a BBQ officinado myself.......a grease-filled BBQ means it has been used alot and not cleaned.

Isn't Neverland supposed to be vacant? or are they still using it for events and functions for Charities etc?   :suspect: 
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: suspicious mind on August 14, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
check out comment # 19 to the article
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 14, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
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check out comment # 19 to the article

Seems TMZ removed that Janet Jackson story about the MJ Estate wanting to pay a portion of the mortgage on her Vegas property.

Discussion here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=23247.msg421928#top

There are a few comments on TMZ removing the Janet story under no. 19.....hmmmmm curious.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 14, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
Sorry....can't help it......here is the gematria for FIRE

38 = fire = Mike, TII, Death, Gold

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=fire

Just had to post it, lol.......

Blessings!
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: suspicious mind on August 14, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
and i am seeing a few post asking questions about ownership. maybe some folk will start to look farther than the end of their nose.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 14, 2012, 09:40:11 PM
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Sorry....can't help it......here is the gematria for FIRE

38 = fire = Mike, TII, Death, Gold

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=fire

Just had to post it, lol.......

Blessings!

I love it when you post these wishingstar   :icon_e_biggrin:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 14, 2012, 09:57:25 PM
Thank you Adi.....sometimes I really do think I'm nuts, lol....
I just have to laugh really........
some of the matches are just way too coincidental.  We have just
been talking about TII's Billie Jean.... :icon_eek: :icon_lol:

I am glad you enjoy them as much as I do.......

Blessings! 
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Shamone Jackson on August 14, 2012, 10:11:03 PM
Is TMZ trying to tell us Michael is at Neverland?  There really wasn't a fire that warranted three engines to get there since it was already put out (if there was one).  I like the heading.  Remove the word "fire" and you have "Michael Jackson at Neverland".

Btw, I thought Neverland had it's own fire station on the property?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: suspicious mind on August 14, 2012, 10:54:23 PM
do i remember that some sort of fire alarm sounded during the ophrah interview? 
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 14, 2012, 10:56:49 PM
Wasn't there a fire alarm at the hospital too, on June 25th?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 14, 2012, 11:07:19 PM
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I think this would probably fit in here also (?):

@ParisJackson
so excited for tomorrow………

@_MlCHAELJACKSON
Tomorrow.... Can't wait.
Retweeted by Paris Jacksoη

@ParisJackson
@_MlCHAELJACKSON we've been counting down all month lmfao and now were like screaming of excitement.. we're like her:: http://ffinale.tumblr.com/post/29313736105

I know, I thought of that too. Maybe they were excited for this party, I wonder if she hadn't seen her father in a while, and this party would be the first time since then..
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: GINAFELICIA on August 14, 2012, 11:57:02 PM
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Is TMZ trying to tell us Michael is at Neverland? 

yeah, hidden underground premises :icon_lol:

the mystery concret brought to Neverland in 2009 :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: rachel1018 on August 15, 2012, 12:05:15 AM
hope neverland is ok!!
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 15, 2012, 12:13:45 AM
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Is TMZ trying to tell us Michael is at Neverland? 

yeah, hidden underground premises :icon_lol:

the mystery concret brought to Neverland in 2009 :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Yeah, I have often thought about all that concrete delivered in the days after June 25th.
Was it for real, or was the media again just making crap up?  Or was Michael already
playing with us?   :icon_geek:  I wish I knew.......

LOVE
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 15, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
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Is TMZ trying to tell us Michael is at Neverland? 

yeah, hidden underground premises :icon_lol:

the mystery concret brought to Neverland in 2009 :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Yeah, I have often thought about all that concrete delivered in the days after June 25th.
Was it for real, or was the media again just making crap up?  Or was Michael already
playing with us?   :icon_geek:  I wish I knew.......

LOVE

Wasn't there also a truck load of port-a-loos delivered around the same time as the concrete?   

hmmm subliminal ........ concrete evidence v's crap evidence ?

MJ's been doing this since the beginning 

:LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on August 15, 2012, 12:37:44 AM
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hope neverland is ok!!

You're not actually buying the baloney are you?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: bec on August 15, 2012, 12:48:21 AM
Fire alarm during Murray's trial too.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 15, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
Good one bec......
so we have fire alarms going off all through the hoax really.....
now there's a fire.  Sort of like putting the cart before the horse!

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpira-hb9j0gXL7ybBLX_nSPeG2zmv7kQHwgPimoPx88t7NBD2GQ)

Is it me, or does this horse have a true  :WTF: expression  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: bugsy on August 15, 2012, 01:13:11 AM
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Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: bec on August 15, 2012, 01:19:31 AM
Yeah but they put it out before the authorities could arrive.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 15, 2012, 01:33:35 AM
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Yeah but they put it out before the authorities could arrive.

An improperly maintained outdoor barbecue hood system was the cause of a fire this morning at Sycamore Valley Ranch in Los Olivos, formerly known as Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch.

There were no injuries or damage to any structures, said Capt. David Sadecki, spokesman for the Santa Barbara County Fire Department.

A meal was being prepared at the time of the blaze, and the barbecue has been shut down for repairs, he added.

About 10:08 a.m., three engines responded to a report of a structure fire at 5225 Figueroa Mountain Road, with assistance from the U.S. Forest Service.

The first unit to arrive reported the blaze was out, so the other two engines were called off, Sadecki said.


During its heyday as Jackson’s iconic home, the 2,800-acre ranch property featured a mansion, a zoo and an amusement park with bumper cars, a merry-go-round and Ferris wheel, and was the site of lavish children’s parties and a live televised interview with Oprah Winfrey in 1993 that drew 90 million viewers.

The property also had its own fire department.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 15, 2012, 01:49:37 AM
Was the Neverland Fire Dept still operational? I would think so given the fire hazards of that area......



(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/3686069371_bd85720865.jpg)

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEUytdqb_dJMmou332ZtA-Jb6yvorLZ7oYjm-muw6W61VdfGFW)

Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on August 15, 2012, 02:34:09 AM
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Nice photo posted on the MJ Facebook today.........resurrection like pose?

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjressomo.jpg)

Are you suggesting a resurrection due to his pose?  It is a nice pose.  :icon_e_wink:

Nothing to do with the topic but I watched Passion of the Christ today and OMG I see why it caused so much controversy. I'm guessing it was because it was so bloody but for real the movies could never even come close to what really happened to our Lord Jesus. I was disappointed with the way it ended. I wanted to see the whole resurrection scene played out with Jesus returning to speak with his disciples to prove to them he truly is the Son of God and rose from the death.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 15, 2012, 02:44:59 AM
Found this wonderful video about Michael Jacksons Neverland ranch...
Tom Barrack, Rob Lowe and who owns it now...Orianthi talks about performing for a private function at Neverland, last year.  It seems quite obvious that Tom Barrack from colonal capital owns half of Sycamore Valley Ranch and from what I've read, there is a silent partner.....

Tom also owns Hilton hotels and many other huge investments....Its more likely it was just another private function hiring it out........Damn  :Pulling_hair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_SIM2oQaE
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_SIM2oQaE[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYutPMYQFps
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYutPMYQFps[/youtube]
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: blankie on August 15, 2012, 03:09:27 AM
In this moment where there are many news about Michael ( will, family, Murray.... ) could not be a mention  to Neverland ..... :icon_e_wink:  :michael-jackson:... another small message between the lines of our boy ????  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MaryK on August 15, 2012, 03:18:37 AM
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Found this wonderful video about Michael Jacksons Neverland ranch...
Tom Barrack, Rob Lowe and who owns it now...Orianthi talks about performing for a private function at Neverland, last year.  It seems quite obvious that Tom Barrack from colonal capital owns half of Sycamore Valley Ranch and from what I've read, there is a silent partner.....

Tom also owns Hilton hotels and many other huge investments....Its more likely it was just another private function hiring it out........Damn  :Pulling_hair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_SIM2oQaE
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_SIM2oQaE[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYutPMYQFps
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYutPMYQFps[/youtube]

I think that´s more likely, yes. I´ve seen an interview where the reporter said "Neverland plays host on occasion for some of Barrack´s investors".
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MJonmind on August 15, 2012, 04:09:53 AM
Shamone Jackson
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Is TMZ trying to tell us Michael is at Neverland?  There really wasn't a fire that warranted three engines to get there since it was already put out (if there was one).  I like the heading.  Remove the word "fire" and you have "Michael Jackson at Neverland".
I like it!

Adi
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Wasn't there also a truck load of port-a-loos delivered around the same time as the concrete?   

hmmm subliminal ........ concrete evidence v's crap evidence ?
Hahaha!

So plenty of fire alarms happening to do with MJ, several have listed.
Sign #5 talks about the fiery furnace and God’s deliverance.
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Isaiah 43:2, “… when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.”

Daniel 3:25, “… Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt …”
(The TMZ story of the celeb climbing Mount Ararat to find the Ark linked with Sign #4 so...)

In TII, MJ said:
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And let it burn, and the lights out!

 
ORTEGA:
Lights out.

 
MICHAEL:
Lights out! Let it burn!
http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/a1/this-is-it-script-transcript.html

2good2btrue
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there is a silent partner.....
Uh-huh, and who could that be…  If not MJ, why is TMZ seemingly regularly posting these hinty stories about Neverland?
Iwantyouback also had a personal experience suggesting MJ being at Neverland.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Adi on August 15, 2012, 05:20:57 AM
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Found this wonderful video about Michael Jacksons Neverland ranch...
Tom Barrack, Rob Lowe and who owns it now...Orianthi talks about performing for a private function at Neverland, last year.  It seems quite obvious that Tom Barrack from colonal capital owns half of Sycamore Valley Ranch and from what I've read, there is a silent partner.....

Tom also owns Hilton hotels and many other huge investments....Its more likely it was just another private function hiring it out........Damn  :Pulling_hair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_SIM2oQaE
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw_SIM2oQaE[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYutPMYQFps
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYutPMYQFps[/youtube]

I think that´s more likely, yes. I´ve seen an interview where the reporter said "Neverland plays host on occasion for some of Barrack´s investors".

Well then they need to clean the BBQ between each visit of Barrack's "investors"  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MaryK on August 15, 2012, 05:31:34 AM
Indeed Adi. You have a point there.  Very sloppy work. One can´t trust staff nowadays  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: popisdead on August 15, 2012, 07:09:13 AM
a party in the ranch? how and why???
seems so odd!!!
and odd the choice of the words for the title of the article.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: curls on August 15, 2012, 08:53:47 AM
I'm just wondering what meal would be being cooked at 10 in the morning?  Is this normal in the US?
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: wishingstar on August 15, 2012, 09:13:41 AM
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I'm just wondering what meal would be being cooked at 10 in the morning?  Is this normal in the US?

You have a good point here curls.......
10 am is early for BBQ....was it said somewhere what this was for....I don't think so.
Maybe the staff was just firing up the grill for themselves....early lunch type of thing? 
I would assume, though it's a gas grill and not charcoal.  Gas grills right up and is easier, faster....
charcoal takes time to start and you have to keep it going.  There are somethings you can cook
all day on the grill, very slowly.......brisket, ribs etc.   
Who knows.....but, yes, 10am is early for sure. 

I'm hungry............

Blessings Always!
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: LunaCielo on August 26, 2012, 10:02:09 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZMlRAR974U&feature=plcp[/youtube]



 :moonwalk_:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on August 26, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing LunaCielo.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: blankie on August 26, 2012, 01:20:41 PM
Woww Luna, wonderful!!! Thanks for sharing !!!  :icon_bounce: :bearhug:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MaryK on August 26, 2012, 01:36:09 PM
Btw: Hoax videos should be posted on hoaxbook.

That´s why we no longer have a category for that on the forum index.

We have a group for that over there  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Andrea on August 26, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
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Btw: Hoax videos should be posted on hoaxbook.

That´s why we no longer have a category for that on the forum index.

We have a group for that over there  :icon_e_wink:

Agreed that hoax videos should go in the group on HB.  Keeps them all together like the old category did.

But I think some videos in relevant threads are ok too.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: MaryK on August 26, 2012, 02:39:48 PM
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Btw: Hoax videos should be posted on hoaxbook.

That´s why we no longer have a category for that on the forum index.

We have a group for that over there  :icon_e_wink:

Agreed that hoax videos should go in the group on HB.  Keeps them all together like the old category did.

But I think some videos in relevant threads are ok too.

Agree. To connect the dots ;-)
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: Sandal8259 on August 26, 2012, 03:50:30 PM
Guys, I was looking a the video of the so called scuffled between Janet and Paris. Did any of you noticed that it looked like Janet was taking a picture of something and it looks like Randy was taking a picture as well using their phones.  And it looks like Janet took a picture of Paris texting something on her phone. It looks like she was trying to stop her from texting something.  Or maybe they were recording them on their phone. You know like the new I-Phone that has those capabilities. What I have yet to understand is that there never seems to be any confrontation between Janet and Prince but yet  it was between Paris and Janet.  Was this done on purpose? That remains to be seen. There is more than meets the eye.
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: luvandmissumike on February 22, 2013, 08:14:48 AM
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:LolLolLolLol:

Yes yes  :icon_mrgreen:

Cool facts Andrea.

For some reason I thought of this when I read the article:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12_7u3rdfA[/youtube]

And I looked up the Wiki article for that and, tadaaaaa:

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"The Roof Is on Fire" was a moderate success, and the B-side of the single, "Request Line", did arguably better in terms of radio play at the time and a music video for "Request Line" was released. The music video for "Request Line" had a reference to Michael Jackson's video "Thriller", with Charlie Prince wearing an outfit similar to Jackson's.

Gotta love these random fun facts that pop up while one is doing a search for something hoaxy  :icon_e_wink:
ARG at its best. Very entertaining.  :smiley_abuv:


WOW!! old school party music.  :multiplespotting:  brings back lots of memories.   

THE ROOF.... THE ROOF.... THE ROOF IS ON FIRE.  WE DON'T NEED NO WATER.... LET THE MUTHA F#&KA BURN  :icon_lol:   good times.   
Title: Re: MICHAEL JACKSON FIRE At Neverland Ranch
Post by: suspicious mind on February 22, 2013, 08:30:17 AM
perhaps the 3 fire trucks for a grill fire is in comparison to all of the units that were involved in the neverland raids ( like way more than was appropriate) for the situation.
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