Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
DR. CONRAD MURRAY
Moved into Bigger Cell
... Still Complaining
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/12/1012-conrad-murray-1.jpg)
EXCLUSIVE DETAILS
The L.A. County Sheriff has moved Dr. Conrad Murray into a larger cell -- but the good doc still ain't happy with the upgrade, telling his lawyer, "I'm dying. You gotta save me."
Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail -- but he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."
As we reported, Murray -- who is 6'5" -- has been griping constantly about his living conditions behind bars, claiming he's dying a slow death due to the cramped spaces.
Murray says the new cell doesn't have bars to elevate his leg -- which has become swollen due to a lack of movement. He says the new cell is also more isolated, and he still isn't getting more exercise.
We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.
Calls to the L.A. County Sheriff were not returned.
See also
Sheriff's Dept. to Dr. Conrad Murray: Relax, You're Getting What You Deserve
Dr. Conrad Murray -- Jail Is KILLING ME!!!!
Joe Jackson Drops Wrongful Death Suit Against Dr. Murray
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek
http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296eyZL85 (http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296eyZL85)
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Conrad want too many....
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. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."
Man in the mirror reference again.
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Murray soon will be out of jail... :icon_e_wink: (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Reflexion/recherche-loupe.gif)
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"Murray says the new cell doesn't have bars to elevate his leg -- which has become swollen due to a lack of movement. He says the new cell is also more isolated, and he still isn't getting more exercise.
We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough."
Don't know to :icon_lol: or to :Pulling_hair: This idiot is mentally ill. He missed pedicure and spa, why he does not simply ask for in home/cell service of those + sexy masseuse ?
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"I'm dying. You gotta save me."
Fate of slow / little motion - are we due to CPR CM, give him a bar to elevate his foot, increase his shoe size and make him dance again? Are we supposed to start the crescendo? Where's the cue, Sir?
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF [size=124pt]DR. CONRAD MURRAY Moved into Bigger Cell ... Still Complaining[/size] Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek
[....]he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."[...]
Dare I continue Murray's sentence: "... who I'm looking at: ME (Michael)? or my disguise (Murray)?" :icon_geek: :icon_e_biggrin:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431734136883609&set=a.225878957469129.54994.197418280315197&type=1&theater
"[....]We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.[...]"
♫ ♪ "Keep On With The Force Don't Stop / Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" ♫ ♪ :michael-jackson:
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@Sim...those are both great lines.....the word, "enough" reminded me of the TDRCAU opening line...
"....Enough is enough of this garbage...." In the very beginning of the prison version.....
Thanks for the post....it's a great reminder of how interwoven things are......
Have a great day!
LOVE
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Seeing Sim's singing in the thread made me join in with a song......
Doc Murray sees the man in the mirror
Doc Murray says that he has changed
No message could have been any clearer.
If you wanna make the world a better place,
A good place to start is Don't Complain............ :icon_geek:
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@Wishy :bearhug: :bearhug:
"EnoUGH" from TDRCAU prison version! cool! :icon_e_wink:
@RK: cool lyrics ! :icon_lol:
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:icon_lol:
So our message to Murray-- Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" ♫ ♪ Just 'Keep on' complaining, because it's also entertaining!
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"Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail"
Sort of odd that the cell sizes correspond to standard photo sizes in inches eg for a framed picture it's 5x7. For a wall-hanging it's 8x10 or larger.
But to be realistic everything has been sort of odd for the last 3 years :icon_lol:
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You're right fin, that is odd. Didn't catch that. Framed photo sizes. Hm.
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:icon_lol:
So our message to Murray-- Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" ♫ ♪ Just 'Keep on' complaining, because it's also entertaining!
yeah! pretty much like that! :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
@finfin: great idea about the framed picture sizes! :icon_e_wink:
So in conclusion it's not real, it's all framed!! :icon_albino:
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"Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail"
Sort of odd that the cell sizes correspond to standard photo sizes in inches eg for a framed picture it's 5x7. For a wall-hanging it's 8x10 or larger.
But to be realistic everything has been sort of odd for the last 3 years :icon_lol:
Yeah right! So why would the cell be any different?
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No (little) motion moving from smaller into bigger frame, increasing (shoe) size and putting feet on (above) a bar.
Seems to be a role call to us still enjoying tiny pieces to dare looking at the bigger picture (enlarged by a bigger frame).
(http://www.artmuse.com/product_images/uploaded_images/small-frame.jpg)
A frame of reference in physics, may refer to a coordinate system or set of axes within which to measure the position, orientation, and other properties of objects in it, or it may refer to an observational reference frame tied to the state of motion of an observer. It may also refer to both an observational reference frame and an attached coordinate system as a unit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_of_reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_of_reference)
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"Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail"
Sort of odd that the cell sizes correspond to standard photo sizes in inches eg for a framed picture it's 5x7. For a wall-hanging it's 8x10 or larger.
But to be realistic everything has been sort of odd for the last 3 years :icon_lol:
Yeah right! So why would the cell be any different?
Don't quite understand what you mean @diggyon
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"Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail"
Sort of odd that the cell sizes correspond to standard photo sizes in inches eg for a framed picture it's 5x7. For a wall-hanging it's 8x10 or larger.
But to be realistic everything has been sort of odd for the last 3 years :icon_lol:
Yeah right! So why would the cell be any different?
Don't quite understand what you mean @diggyon
I meant that the cell measurement are odd, just like everything else!
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@ellyd yes and piece by piece by piece by piece, MJ is revealed, until he jumps out and ..... ??
hopefully we will see the big picture soon!!! :icon_e_wink:
@diggyon the measurements do seem odd, trying to picture a 6' 5" man in a 5 x 7 cell - it must be a joke
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why has there all along been such a huge focus on the size of this man, is it relevent to anything? also his age seems to be brought up time and again. why?
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@finfin: great idea about the framed picture sizes! :icon_e_wink:
So in conclusion it's not real, it's all framed!! :icon_albino:
:icon_albino: Picture sizes was my first thought too, but the thought passed quickly as probably nothing. "A 'picture' is worth a thousand words." So just like MJ was framed in 93 and 05, perhaps CM was framed/"just the fall guy" or the bait by MJ's hoax machinery, etc. That's why CM shows no remorse and claims innocence.
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
DR. CONRAD MURRAY
Moved into Bigger Cell
... Still Complaining
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/12/1012-conrad-murray-1.jpg)
EXCLUSIVE DETAILS
The L.A. County Sheriff has moved Dr. Conrad Murray into a larger cell -- but the good doc still ain't happy with the upgrade, telling his lawyer, "I'm dying. You gotta save me."
Murray was transferred from a 5'x7' cell to a 8'x10' cell yesterday -- the biggest in the jail -- but he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."
As we reported, Murray -- who is 6'5" -- has been griping constantly about his living conditions behind bars, claiming he's dying a slow death due to the cramped spaces.
Murray says the new cell doesn't have bars to elevate his leg -- which has become swollen due to a lack of movement. He says the new cell is also more isolated, and he still isn't getting more exercise.
We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.
Calls to the L.A. County Sheriff were not returned.
See also
Sheriff's Dept. to Dr. Conrad Murray: Relax, You're Getting What You Deserve
Dr. Conrad Murray -- Jail Is KILLING ME!!!!
Joe Jackson Drops Wrongful Death Suit Against Dr. Murray
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek
http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296eyZL85 (http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296eyZL85)
5x7 = 35
8x10 = 80
80 +35 = 115
1 +1 +5 = 7
I think it's your lucky number also, do not complain
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I've been trying to find something to confirm the actual size of these "cells" in the LA Men's Central Jail where Murray is supposed to be. The closest I have found is part of a comment from this link - http://www.topix.com/forum/news/aclu/T0V5OO235BRR6VRKT/p2
"I've done two tours at Men's Central... Try spending 24/7, some guys fighting a case for 4 + years, in a 8x10 cell with 11 other guys with one toilet and sink, roaches, mice, rats and sticky filth everywhere you touch."
It sounds like a horrible place - but this person says an 8x10 cell would hold 12 men. So IF Murray is in an 8x10 cell by himself, he should not be complaining.
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All this talk about "cells" and the size of "cells"
"Cell" can also be an abbreviation for "Celluloid" which can mean "a motion-picture film - a film you show in the cinema"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/celluloid
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@pepper...interesting post, you're right cell has different meanings.....
it's also the very fiber and make-up of everything on Earth. It sort of
by reminds me of this quote by Michael:
The meaning of life is contained in every single expression of life. It is present in the infinity of forms and phenomena that exist in all of creation.
Have a beautiful day!
LOVE
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I think this is another way to tell us that things are shaping up and moving along nicely. Not quite there yet, but soon. :beerchug:
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@finfin: great idea about the framed picture sizes! :icon_e_wink:
So in conclusion it's not real, it's all framed!! :icon_albino:
:icon_albino: Picture sizes was my first thought too, but the thought passed quickly as probably nothing. "A 'picture' is worth a thousand words." So just like MJ was framed in 93 and 05, perhaps CM was framed/"just the fall guy" or the bait by MJ's hoax machinery, etc. That's why CM shows no remorse and claims innocence.
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anyone ever make these claims against michael during the allegations against him? just wondering.
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF [size=124pt]DR. CONRAD MURRAY Moved into Bigger Cell ... Still Complaining[/size] Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek
[....]he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."[...]
Dare I continue Murray's sentence: "... who I'm looking at: ME (Michael)? or my disguise (Murray)?" :icon_geek: :icon_e_biggrin:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431734136883609&set=a.225878957469129.54994.197418280315197&type=1&theater
"[....]We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.[...]"
♫ ♪ "Keep On With The Force Don't Stop / Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" ♫ ♪ :michael-jackson:
Can this be a coincidence?
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson/posts/10151216703501473
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
"I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at"
ahah! i've just read this article and the 1st words i noticed have been the 1s i've left.... murray doesn't know who he's looking at! :fresse: mhhh.... is he looking at mikael? is he looking at the mask he's wearing? clear words,tmz,thanx!
*LUNA*
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF
"I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at[/color]"
ahah! i've just read this article and the 1st words i noticed have been the 1s i've left.... murray doesn't know who he's looking at! :fresse: mhhh.... is he looking at mikael? is he looking at the mask he's wearing? clear words,tmz,thanx!
*LUNA*
were we not for warned that this truth was not always going to be pretty? if someone perhaps murray is speaking for michael then perhaps we must consider that he is so far removed from the person he used to be that he doesn't even recognize himself :affraid:
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Quote Pepper:
All this talk about "cells" and the size of "cells"
Quote Wishingstar:
it's also the very fiber and make-up of everything on Earth. It sort of
by reminds me of this quote by Michael:
The meaning of life is contained in every single expression of life. It is present in the infinity of forms and phenomena that exist in all of creation.
Interesting thoughts, and when I connect "cells" and Michael’s quote it reminds me of Front’s post http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg423757.html#msg423757 in which he mentioned microcosms and macrocosms which are cells too:
Quote Front:
In the laws of Mother Nature/God, the laws of time & physics are reflected in every microcosm (the moment of noW) and in every macrocosm (the Bigger PIcture).
This inspired me to do some research about microcosm and macrocosm and I quote a part of a filosophic blog http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=1492:
Considering the macrocosm can thus act as a corrective to our basic myopia. People tend to take whatever is around them as reality, but thoughts of the macrocosm make us realize that our microcosmic reality is transcended on all sides by nature and differences between the histories and cultures of peoples and nations.
Thinking about the macrocosm and microcosm is important because it reminds us that how it is where we live is not how it is where someone else lives, even if the other person lives in the same town. Knowledge of the macrocosm draws us out of our little lives to stand in a wider world, feeling awe before the grandeur of nature, the sweep of human history, the growth of science, and the potential to integrate the great and the little into a life that appreciates both and can move from one to the other as the occasion demands.
If we all just would think or are willing to learn about the macrocosm, it will not only make us aware of our small and humble existence on earth but it also makes us see the bigger picture which motivates us to solve the world’s problems in unity.
LOVE
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5x7 to 8x10 .....the bigger picture. :icon_e_wink:
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Posted 10/12/2012 9:38 AM by TMZ STAFF [size=124pt]DR. CONRAD MURRAY Moved into Bigger Cell ... Still Complaining[/size] Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/12/conrad-murray-bigger-cell-jail-complaining-lawyer/#ixzz296jRL6Ek
[....]he spoke to his lawyer soon after, saying, "I am a condemned prisoner right now. I look in the mirror and I don't even know who I'm looking at."[...]
Dare I continue Murray's sentence: "... who I'm looking at: ME (Michael)? or my disguise (Murray)?" :icon_geek: :icon_e_biggrin:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431734136883609&set=a.225878957469129.54994.197418280315197&type=1&theater
"[....]We're told Murray is grateful for the attention -- but it's just not enough.[...]"
♫ ♪ "Keep On With The Force Don't Stop / Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" ♫ ♪ :michael-jackson:
Can this be a coincidence?
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson/posts/10151216703501473
:omg: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: Thank you for pointing this out @MjonMind! I had missed it !
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And speaking of MJ - Official Facebook "winks", thanks to you @MjonMind, I just discovered another WINK!!
I had posted on my FB page some montages on Mj & Hamlet connections, you can see them here:
part 1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431914786865544&set=a.220153974708294.53246.197418280315197&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F470816_431914786865544_1337720367_o.jpg&smallsrc=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F197598_431914786865544_1337720367_n.jpg&size=846%2C1204)
part 2 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431927220197634&set=a.220153974708294.53246.197418280315197&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F201080_431927220197634_506423597_o.jpg&smallsrc=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F391763_431927220197634_506423597_n.jpg&size=1095%2C1279)
part 3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=431934520196904&set=a.220153974708294.53246.197418280315197&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash3%2F525579_431934520196904_1836704460_n.jpg&size=940%2C837)
part 4 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=432674633456226&set=a.220153974708294.53246.197418280315197&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc6%2F664829_432674633456226_352675853_o.jpg&smallsrc=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc6%2F6233_432674633456226_352675853_n.jpg&size=1064%2C939)
----> https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjhamlcxc.jpg)
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Sim, wow yet again with your series of 4 on MJ and Hamlet. To add to your skull collection something future on 12/21/12 from Leilani81’s post.
In collaboration with Cirque de Soleil, ‘Google’, NBC, Santana, Elevate Films, and others, all of the above have come together to sponsor a series of spectacular performances that will carry the seeds that are sown in the soon to be actualized Crystal Skull Ceremonies to hearts and minds all over the planet.
http://matrixharmonics.com.au/2012/02/cirque-du-soleil-connecting-with-solstices-full-moons-equinoxes-and-earth-ceremonies-in-2012/
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Sim, wow yet again with your series of 4 on MJ and Hamlet. To add to your skull collection something future on 12/21/12 from Leilani81’s post.
In collaboration with Cirque de Soleil, ‘Google’, NBC, Santana, Elevate Films, and others, all of the above have come together to sponsor a series of spectacular performances that will carry the seeds that are sown in the soon to be actualized Crystal Skull Ceremonies to hearts and minds all over the planet.
http://matrixharmonics.com.au/2012/02/cirque-du-soleil-connecting-with-solstices-full-moons-equinoxes-and-earth-ceremonies-in-2012/
Sorry MJonmind, I guess I missed the wink!!! Could you please explain it to me?
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Diggyon, I initially showed that, MJ Facebook posted "Don't stop till you get enough" one day after Sim had posted it here. So Sim added that they had also posted the cover to Is this scary (MJ holding skull), shortly after she had made the montages to Hamlet holding the skull. So 2 winks from them.
Is that what you meant?
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Moved to bigger cell, still complaining... do they mean us?
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Sim, wow yet again with your series of 4 on MJ and Hamlet. To add to your skull collection something future on 12/21/12 from Leilani81’s post.
In collaboration with Cirque de Soleil, ‘Google’, NBC, Santana, Elevate Films, and others, all of the above have come together to sponsor a series of spectacular performances that will carry the seeds that are sown in the soon to be actualized Crystal Skull Ceremonies to hearts and minds all over the planet.
http://matrixharmonics.com.au/2012/02/cirque-du-soleil-connecting-with-solstices-full-moons-equinoxes-and-earth-ceremonies-in-2012/
speaking of crystal skulls.. the skull is referred to now as the "skull of love" but has been known as the "skull of doom" and before that the "skull of dunn"
http://www.mitchell-hedges.com/en/future/skull_of_love/home.html
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Diggyon, I initially showed that, MJ Facebook posted "Don't stop till you get enough" one day after Sim had posted it here. So Sim added that they had also posted the cover to Is this scary (MJ holding skull), shortly after she had made the montages to Hamlet holding the skull. So 2 winks from them.
Is that what you meant?
Yes, MJonmind. Thank you for for explaining :)
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Moved to bigger cell, still complaining... do they mean us?
:thjajaja121: