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Title: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 22, 2013, 06:48:44 PM
JERMAINE JACKSON
Name Change Complete ...
OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN (http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/22/jermaine-jackson-name-change/)

2/22/2013 2:06 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/02/22/0222-jermaine-jackson-1.jpg)

Call him Jermaine Jacksun ... with a "U" ... because as of this afternoon, that's legally his name.

We've learned ... an L.A. County Superior Court judge approved the singer's petition for the name change, which the 58-year-old filed back in November. 

TMZ broke the story ... the man formerly known as "Jermaine Jackson" had said he wanted to make the change for "artistic reasons" ... whatever that means.

Jermaine was not present during the hearing ... because he's off in Europe performing with his brothers ... the Jacksons.

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 22, 2013, 06:49:58 PM


Good lord, that picture!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 22, 2013, 06:59:51 PM
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Good lord, that picture!  :icon_lol:

 :thjajaja121:

I know he didn’t approve that…  :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: paula-c on February 22, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
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JERMAINE JACKSON
Name Change Complete ...
OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN (http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/22/jermaine-jackson-name-change/)

2/22/2013 2:06 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/02/22/0222-jermaine-jackson-1.jpg)

Call him Jermaine Jacksun ... with a "U" ... because as of this afternoon, that's legally his name.

We've learned ... an L.A. County Superior Court judge approved the singer's petition for the name change, which the 58-year-old filed back in November. 

TMZ broke the story ... the man formerly known as "Jermaine Jackson" had said he wanted to make the change for "artistic reasons" ... whatever that means.

Jermaine was not present during the hearing ... because he's off in Europe performing with his brothers ... the Jacksons.








It seems constipated, :icon_lol: ..sorry Jermaine :icon_geek:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: marumjj on February 22, 2013, 08:07:37 PM
as is the story? says that changes its name for artistic reasons and continues to tour with Jackson, he does deny his name? think about how you will feel her mother with this  :WTF:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: wishingstar on February 22, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
OK....break time....sorry Jermaine, but you are rather "rabbity"....adorably so, of course:

(http://www.themusicninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Speed-Demon1.jpg)

TMZ....surely you have better photos, tisk tisk......why this one? 

Blessings Always......

PS> I saw your post marumjj....yes, true....changing the name could really hurt a parent.  Wonder what the real deal is? 
If I remember right, this started last year.....just now getting approved?  Strange stuff for sure......."artistic reasons"? :confused:

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on February 22, 2013, 09:22:50 PM
umm if he is now muslim wouldn't it make more sense for him to take a muslim name if he was goin to go to the trouble to change his name, you know like ali did ? just wondering. this name thing is odd..
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MJonmind on February 23, 2013, 02:25:03 AM
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OK....break time....sorry Jermaine, but you are rather "rabbity"....adorably so, of course:

(http://www.themusicninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Speed-Demon1.jpg)

It looks like he's saying, "It's not Jackson, it's JackSSSSSUN!
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: underthemoon on February 23, 2013, 04:26:44 AM
He is on tour in europe with a passport with his name Jackson.....when his name is now legaly Jacksun he travels with a unlegal passport ? Hasn't he problems with his passport a few years ago and couldn't travel ?
It's all a little bit weird... :icon_eek:

With love  :bearhug:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on February 23, 2013, 07:13:06 AM
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PS> I saw your post marumjj....yes, true....changing the name could really hurt a parent.  Wonder what the real deal is? 
If I remember right, this started last year.....just now getting approved?  Strange stuff for sure......."artistic reasons"? :confused:

jmo, but i don't believe any jackson would change their name.


i still don't believe it. even though TMZ report it, even if the statement comes from Jermaine.

i believe it to be another fictional story of this hoax... why? well, that i can't answer. lol

 :Pulling_hair:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 23, 2013, 08:14:44 AM


Wasn't it also "reported" somewhere that Jermaine's last name would still be Jackson for professional reasons, even if he changed it to Jacksun?
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Faithad777 on February 23, 2013, 12:10:22 PM
Can't have two last names, no matter how famous you are!!!! Why would someone, at 58 years old, change the very famous last name he has, and only one letter from it? Give me a break.  What is the meaning of this?   
Title: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on February 23, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
Hello everyone. It's been a long time since I've posted but I read at times.

Can't help think of Sun City in South Africa where MJ had/has property, correct? I've always thought there was something significant about that...  Jacksun/Jackson may also be some sort of clue to Michael Joe/Joseph...
Then I think of how Snoop Dog has changed his name like this is all connected somehow??
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: wishingstar on February 23, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
You know how TMZ always seems to have access to "official documents" ....they have that little corner sign on pictures, saying
something like, "click here to see doc".....did they ever show any official court papers or documents on this story?  I don't remember seeing
anything....I might have missed it though.  I am with you Aussie....fictional at best. 

Whenever words/letters are involved...I have to do it : )
Gematria time:

73 = Jackson = Joseph, Kingdom, Crown, Children, Eighteen, Living, Mouse, Sony, Circus, Sexy, Mr Hyde......and Front : )

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=jackson

79 = Jacksun = William (Will i am?) , Billie Jean, God is Pi, Dualism, Piece of Cake, Healthy, Chaos Magic

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=jacksun

Let's look at the actual letters......from O to U because that's what we are seeing in the names as changed.....

OPQRSTU....hummm 7 letters total

126 = OPQRSTU = Dancing the Dream,  Heaven Can Wait,  The Knowing, U Aint Seen Me, The End of Days

http://www.gematrix.org/?word=opqrstu


Fun to look at anyways.........coincidences abound with this stuff, but really some WTFoosball moments for sure  :icon_lol:

Have a great day...
Blessings

PS> Hey SolidierofLOVE....how are you...good to see ya!  Yes, Sun City.....could be....nice one : ) Didn't Michael say he wanted make a home in South Africa at one time......when he visited Nelson Mandela maybe? 
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 23, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
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He is on tour in europe with a passport with his name Jackson.....when his name is now legaly Jacksun he travels with a unlegal passport ? Hasn't he problems with his passport a few years ago and couldn't travel ?
It's all a little bit weird... :icon_eek:

With love  :bearhug:

This kind of reminds me of the alias used on Michael’s insurance.  Can’t be used for anything legit.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: blankie on February 23, 2013, 04:43:44 PM
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JERMAINE JACKSON
Name Change Complete ...
OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN (http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/22/jermaine-jackson-name-change/)

2/22/2013 2:06 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/02/22/0222-jermaine-jackson-1.jpg)

Call him Jermaine Jacksun ... with a "U" ... because as of this afternoon, that's legally his name.

We've learned ... an L.A. County Superior Court judge approved the singer's petition for the name change, which the 58-year-old filed back in November. 

TMZ broke the story ... the man formerly known as "Jermaine Jackson" had said he wanted to make the change for "artistic reasons" ... whatever that means.

Jermaine was not present during the hearing ... because he's off in Europe performing with his brothers ... the Jacksons.








It seems constipated, :icon_lol: ..sorry Jermaine :icon_geek:




This is too beautiful !!!  :icon_lol:...with L.O.V.E.  but too funny  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 23, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
i must admit, considering the picture, there maybe was more urgent things to change than his name...

I wonder why he changed it. I mean "Jackson" is his main money source. But we can notice he didn't change the sound of it.
I guess one letter is enough to make new deals without owing anything to "Jackson" brand and still keep his name as fans know it.

If all of this EVER HAPPENED.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: paula-c on February 23, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
Jermaine Jackson gatekeeping

Jermaine Jackson introduced his next show in Paris on the life of King of Pop. It tackles the passage shows some competitors.

 Interview by Catherine Ball | Published on 13.11.2012, 07:35 AM



Jeans, sweater and sunglasses, he welcomes us into his suite at the Fouquet's (VIII), where heating seems pushed to its maximum ("Jermaine hates the cold," explains his entourage). The fourth son of the Jackson siblings is visiting Paris to promote "You are not Alone", which will be played at the Variety Theatre on 21, 27 and 28 January *.

A musical from the book he published last year in which he traced the life of his brother. The show will combine anecdotes, family films and times of American classics performed on stage by Jermaine, 57, and opera singer David Serero (see box). Monday, baritone accompanied by Michael's brother also for interviews. And while Jermaine speaks with a soft voice and smiling, he is responsible for shortening the answers to the Jackson family. So what will it show? JERMAINE JACKSON . We want to tell a story, explain the relationship Michael had with his family. We write a lot about us, but now he is telling the truth, things that have never been said. And we want to deliver the best vocal performance. I think it worked well. There were a lot of shows dedicated to your brother since his death . What do you think? I saw "Thriller Live" here in Paris and I loved it. But there are other shows that are not up to it, including the Cirque du Soleil (note: currently on tour, he arrived in France in the spring) . This is not the family who is behind these shows, but the testamentary executors of Michael: we do not have our say on these shows. It is not a trial, but we are against. Michael would never have approved these shows. His legacy should be in the right hands. This summer, the press revealed that there were large tensions in the Jackson family ... People outside the family that we would split. They want to take what we have forty years to build. questions remain about the death of your brother. Hope one day you discover the truth? was always a lot of questions, but we will never be satisfied. How are the three children of Michael? They're fine. They play with my kids all the time, and Jermajesty Jaafar, 12 and 13 years. They go to the movies together ... In fact, they liked the last James Bond You recently filed an application with the U.S. administration to take the pseudonym "Jacksun." Why? (Sigh) . I went to see a lawyer in a tiny little office and I filled out a form ... Jacksun is a reference to the sun (note: "sun") because I love being in the sun - as Michael loved it too. But in the business, I keep the name of Jackson. What does your family think? Nothing. Only the media talked about. Always looking to buy a house in Normandy? Yes. I love this time of year with you. We never see snow in California ... I'd love to take my family to see the snow falling in Normandy.
 



http://www.leparisien.fr/loisirs-et-spectacles/jermaine-gardien-du-temple-jackson-13-11-2012-2316987.php
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: reveron1958 on February 24, 2013, 10:03:45 AM
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You recently filed an application with the U.S. administration to take the pseudonym "Jacksun." Why? (Sigh) . I went to see a lawyer in a tiny little office and I filled out a form ... Jacksun is a reference to the sun (note: "sun") because I love being in the sun - as Michael loved it too. But in the business, I keep the name of Jackson. What does your family think? Nothing. Only the media talked about.

I don't see the point of going to all that trouble to make such a small change to a surname, just to use in his 'personal' life.  :icon_e_confused: To me it makes no sense at all. If his answer is true then I am sorry, but he's completely nuts!  :WTF:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 24, 2013, 04:41:55 PM
OK, OK, OK....

JERMAINE, boy, i have to tell you.... there is no SNOW in Normandy.... Only RAIN, and cows, and RAIN, and grass, and RAIN, and some other cows, and RAIN again.

This reason about changing his name sounds absolutly "futile" but i'm not american, i'm not a jackson, and i'm not jermaine. Changing name is so much symbolic

HOPEFULLY his bro never loved to "eat Ben&Jerry ice cream while jumping on one feet around the garden every monday at 5pm"
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Shrimp on February 24, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
It doesn't make sense to me either. I thought he previously said he wanted to change his name for artistic reasons? I don't see why loving to be in the sun is an artistic reason. You know, my own last name is the name of a season (like: "Autumns", but then another season and in my mother tongue) and I would never consider changing it to let's say "Winters" only because it is my favorite season...

And also: why does he involve Michael in this by saying he loved being in the sun too? Michael has nothing to do with it, at least not that anybody knows of. That's kind of odd imo. Imagine having a brother who is very famous, and you yourself always being "in his shadow". Then this brother "dies" and you get to do many interviews that are mainly about his "death". I would think that if you do something for yourself, something that has nothing to do with this brother, and the media ask you about this, you don't drag him into it.

I'm not implying Jermaine is tired of talking about Michael, I'm just saying that he is doing that all the time anyway, and that it's not "necessary" to mention Michael in this case. Unless of course Michael has something to do with it, but in order to know that I guess we will have to keep watching...
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: mindseye on February 24, 2013, 06:44:07 PM
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OK....break time....sorry Jermaine, but you are rather "rabbity"....adorably so, of course:

(http://www.themusicninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Speed-Demon1.jpg)

It looks like he's saying, "It's not Jackson, it's JackSSSSSUN!

 :LolLolLolLol:  I thought the same.

Artistic reasons? hmmm well I agree it's strange to mention MJ loved it too since he couldn't be in the sun  :icon_rolleyes:

I was wondering if the Sun symbol has anything to do with 7 or a date. The sun and moon, plus five other planets are visible to the naked eye. Moonwalker and the JackSUN =2 + 5 planets.  :icon_lol:

Also found:

Common Native American Sun Symbol:
This is one of the most common symbols among all Native American Indian tribes. You will note this particular sun design has seven rays. Each ray represents the seven energy centers within human beings, and also the development of each of these energy centers. This symbol identifies the healing arts, and represents a peace loving person.

Solar Symbolism, Ancient and Modern
The Sun Icon
There is a common astrological, and now astronomical, symbol for the Sun. It's a circle with a dot in it. This particular image was once the alchemical symbol for gold, being "...the most perfect of the metals. For the alchemist, it represented the perfection of all matter on any level, including that of the mind, spirit, and soul." The symbol's association with both gold and the Sun evidently dates back as far as alchemy does. The article Gold and the Sun mentions that aurum the latin word for gold, is derived from the Greek name Aurora, the goddess of the dawn. So the color of gold was associated with the brilliance of the Sun since ancient times. Another site, Alchemy and Symbols, notes that "Only a few metals were known to the alchemists. They were, namely, gold, silver, iron, mercury, tin, copper and lead. Since they knew only seven planets [sic - should be 6 planets plus the Sun] and seven gods, they named these seven metals after the gods of the planets. These metals then, were known as the "Seven Metals of the Ancients." Gold, the noble metal, was named after Sol, the golden Sun whose symbol was the perfect sphere;..." and later, "The seven metals were each assigned a day in the week; thus, Sunday was gold (Sol)...". One site notes that "A dot or point in the center of a circle symbolizes the blending of male and female forces. Hindus call the midpoint in a circle the bindu - the spark of (masculine) life within the cosmic womb. However, how that relates to the Sun is not explained.

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 24, 2013, 09:59:17 PM
Thank you for sharing this - it is really odd to me as well. It doesn't make sense to change it for artistic reasons but then only change one letter.

What did stand out to me was the comment about his dressing room being very warm because he doesn't like to be cold...and neither did Michael. This reminds me of MJ's bedroom where it was told to us that it was very hot in the room. I wonder if there is a connection. I can believe that Michael liked to be warm considering where he liked to call home.

Blessings to you. I'm still watchin'
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MJonmind on February 25, 2013, 12:36:07 AM
Although I'm NOT saying that the man 'Jesus' didn't exist or that God didn't have a plan or historical story-line involving the need for a 'Saviour', I still do think that there are some layers to the relationship between the Bible's story of salvation in Jesus and the celestial bodies.  Namely that The Son of God = The Sun, in a mystical way.  There have been more than a few hints of relationship between MJ and Archangel Michael or Son of Man, including TS's Signs.  Jermaine in one interview said MJ was like Moses and he like Aaron. In the Bible, Aaron was a mouthpiece for Moses.  There are many parallels between Moses and Jesus  http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/Typology%20of%20Moses%20and%20Jesus.htm .  I think mostly Jermaine's name change is a clue relating to the MJ hoax/HIStory event of now.   I don't agree with the general conclusions of the following article, but agree with the amazing similarities between the two. 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mistic/songod_sungod.htm

The names 'Jack' and 'Jackson' mean God is gracious. Or we could say 'son of God-is-gracious'.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hopi on February 25, 2013, 01:41:47 AM
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OK, OK, OK....

JERMAINE, boy, i have to tell you.... there is no SNOW in Normandy.... Only RAIN, and cows, and RAIN, and grass, and RAIN, and some other cows, and RAIN again.

This reason about changing his name sounds absolutly "futile" but i'm not american, i'm not a jackson, and i'm not jermaine. Changing name is so much symbolic

HOPEFULLY his bro never loved to "eat Ben&Jerry ice cream while jumping on one feet around the garden every monday at 5pm"

LOL - I'm with you :)

Your reference to "eat Ben&Jerry ice cream while..." reminds me of the way nativ americans give the names to their children: when something special happens to the child or some exclusive behavior is shown, this will be the name... In Jermaines case it would be "the man who loves the sun just like his brother"

Now, what I'm sure of: changing of name is serious, cause it impacts all your life... so there must be a serious reason for it - not only "because I love the sun just like my brother Michael does"
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 25, 2013, 02:40:45 AM

i agree mjonmind, i'm convinced it must be hoax related.
Jermaine changing his name does not make sence.

Michael has walked for all these time(hoax) in the dark, shadows, where we couldn't see him,fighting the dark people who have tryed to destroy him.
But he's going to be in the sun again.
The sun is bright and expose everything that was in the dark and was hidden, Michael wants to get out of the dark to walk in the sun again.

btw can we verify if Jermaine has indeed changed his name, it have to be registered somewhere, he had to go to a laywer and judge, and TMZ story tell us it is legally his name, i want to search but does anyone know wich register website to search for.





Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on February 25, 2013, 07:42:32 AM
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Thank you for sharing this - it is really odd to me as well. It doesn't make sense to change it for artistic reasons but then only change one letter.

What did stand out to me was the comment about his dressing room being very warm because he doesn't like to be cold...and neither did Michael.
This reminds me of MJ's bedroom where it was told to us that it was very hot in the room. I wonder if there is a connection. I can believe that Michael liked to be warm considering where he liked to call home.

Blessings to you. I'm still watchin'

can someone remind me please where we have this information from about the the cold?  thank you in advance  :icon_e_smile:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 25, 2013, 07:49:52 AM
MJonmind:
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Although I'm NOT saying that the man 'Jesus' didn't exist or that God didn't have a plan or historical story-line involving the need for a 'Saviour', I still do think that there are some layers to the relationship between the Bible's story of salvation in Jesus and the celestial bodies.  Namely that The Son of God = The Sun, in a mystical way.  There have been more than a few hints of relationship between MJ and Archangel Michael or Son of Man, including TS's Signs.  Jermaine in one interview said MJ was like Moses and he like Aaron. In the Bible, Aaron was a mouthpiece for Moses.


I've been thinking along the same lines.  Whether Jermaine actually changed his name or not, legally, may not be the point.  I think the reason for this "news" was to draw this parallel, for the hoax and the Signs.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 25, 2013, 08:52:43 AM
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MJonmind:
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Although I'm NOT saying that the man 'Jesus' didn't exist or that God didn't have a plan or historical story-line involving the need for a 'Saviour', I still do think that there are some layers to the relationship between the Bible's story of salvation in Jesus and the celestial bodies.  Namely that The Son of God = The Sun, in a mystical way.  There have been more than a few hints of relationship between MJ and Archangel Michael or Son of Man, including TS's Signs.  Jermaine in one interview said MJ was like Moses and he like Aaron. In the Bible, Aaron was a mouthpiece for Moses.


I've been thinking along the same lines.  Whether Jermaine actually changed his name or not, legally, may not be the point.  I think the reason for this "news" was to draw this parallel, for the hoax and the Signs.

Agree , but knowing that jermaine has, or has not changed his name legally, would give us more evidence, and certainty it's not about name changing but clues, because the storys tell us It was legally changed. It doesn't have to be one or the other,  i think the're could be more sides to this story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_change
http://www.courts.ca.gov/1051.htm
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 25, 2013, 10:10:58 AM


Even if we were to see the paperwork of the name change, would that really mean anything?  We've seen various paperwork associated with Michael's "death" and we know that doesn't mean Michael is dead. 
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 25, 2013, 11:31:45 AM
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Even if we were to see the paperwork of the name change, would that really mean anything?  We've seen various paperwork associated with Michael's "death" and we know that doesn't mean Michael is dead.

I see and understand what you mean Andrea, and you are right, it could not mean or give us anything , there is a high possibillity we don't find anything, i'm with you on that.

But the paperworks from MJ's death Certificate , was one of the clues we get , by reading and investigate the documents.

I say this with my respect to you

 i like to know only if it's just for myself to see the legal papers.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 25, 2013, 12:12:10 PM


Yep, I'd like to see the document as well, Shy, just to see if there's any obvious clues.  But other than that, seeing isn't necessarily believing.  Strange that TMZ hasn't shown the "proof" yet.  Who knows, maybe Jermaine really did change his name! 
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 25, 2013, 02:00:40 PM
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Yep, I'd like to see the document as well, Shy, just to see if there's any obvious clues.  But other than that, seeing isn't necessarily believing.  Strange that TMZ hasn't shown the "proof" yet.  Who knows, maybe Jermaine really did change his name!

Yes,......maybe TMZ are going to provide the legal papers soon. in the mean time i try to seach for it.

Thank you Andrea :)
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 25, 2013, 02:40:57 PM
This is the legal document provided by Eonline

http://images.eonline.com/static/news/pdf/jermainenamechange.pdf


This is the whole article from Eonline
http://uk.eonline.com/news/391096/jermaine-jackson-officially-changes-last-name-to-jacksun
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MJonmind on February 25, 2013, 03:28:40 PM
From your link ShyBlueEyes
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The news (Jacksun) comes a day after Cirque du Soleil revealed that its newest Michael Jackson-inspired show will be called Michael Jackson ONE and is set to begin preview performances May 23 at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas.

If his name change isn't Michael hoax related, then I would say he's trying to get a little fame associated with his famous brother.
Otherwise it seems completely pointless.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermaine_Jackson
Jermaine LaJuane Jacksun (né Jackson; born December 11, 1954) is an American singer, bassist, composer, member of The Jackson 5, and occasional film director.

And then there's his Muslim name:
Muhammad Abdul Aziz
http://www.jackson-source.com/the-jacksons/107-jermaine
I can see there, his strong effort to succeed and frustration (Word to the Badd on album You Said).

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 25, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
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From your link ShyBlueEyes
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The news (Jacksun) comes a day after Cirque du Soleil revealed that its newest Michael Jackson-inspired show will be called Michael Jackson ONE and is set to begin preview performances May 23 at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas.

Yeah the first thing that popped my mind was Soleil and Sun wich means the same translated from French to english.

If his name change isn't Michael hoax related, then I would say he's trying to get a little fame associated with his famous brother.
Otherwise it seems completely pointless.

Yes it does seem very pointless , so pointless, that you forced to think there has to be more to the story.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermaine_Jackson
Jermaine LaJuane Jacksun (né Jackson; born December 11, 1954) is an American singer, bassist, composer, member of The Jackson 5, and occasional film director.

And then there's his Muslim name:
Muhammad Abdul Aziz
http://www.jackson-source.com/the-jacksons/107-jermaine
I can see there, his strong effort to succeed and frustration (Word to the Badd on album You Said).

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 25, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
Ok so let me sum up

Prince works for ET
Jermaine becomes a Jack-SUN
and the proof is given by EO (captain EO  :suspect:)

I think we are surrounded by an over-media-dose  :WTF:

Sounds like the Jackson are IN the media. lol

I agree this changing name reason makes no sense and it's not because Jermaines says it, that he might be really doing it.

It's been long time but i think i might soon need my good old straitjacket...

and if MJ actually reads me, i hope to hear about straitjacket from one of the jackson in the coming days (just to see how they can manage to come to talk about this  :icon_lol:)

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: blankie on February 25, 2013, 06:53:51 PM
Michael .. we need your presence !  :icon_lol: Soon, very soon !!!  :smiley-vault-misc-150: :suspect: :icon_lol: :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on February 26, 2013, 02:44:34 AM
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Michael .. we need your presence !  :icon_lol: Soon, very soon !!!  :smiley-vault-misc-150: :suspect: :icon_lol: :michael-jackson:
We really do, Mike! :)  ;)
And since I'm all about number these days :p, I couldn't help myself from calculating: May 23rd 2013 = 7!

Just saying...
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MJonmind on February 26, 2013, 03:56:31 AM
Jermaine is sending very mixed messages. :icon_e_confused: :icon_e_sad:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/jacko_hack_bro_05yw11lWnNjpzEnyKAIQxH
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on February 26, 2013, 04:26:01 AM
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Jermaine is sending very mixed messages. :icon_e_confused: :icon_e_sad:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/jacko_hack_bro_05yw11lWnNjpzEnyKAIQxH
Oh Goodness Gracious! Either he's gone nuts, or he's really trying to send mixed messages.... :suspect:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 26, 2013, 05:22:15 AM
My main thought about this article ?

For almost 4 years media have been all "MJ friendly" "Jackson friendly" but in the end, the varnish is not that big, and here is what we can read about a Jackson when they have any opportunity.
I actually have no idea what's in Jermaine's head and what is wrong from right, but this article just confirm me that media NEVER change.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on February 26, 2013, 06:24:33 AM
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My main thought about this article ?

For almost 4 years media have been all "MJ friendly" "Jackson friendly" but in the end, the varnish is not that big, and here is what we can read about a Jackson when they have any opportunity.
I actually have no idea what's in Jermaine's head and what is wrong from right, but this article just confirm me that media NEVER change.
They did overreact... with The King of Flop and all. They always do that, manipulating and exaggerating things... still, I cannot help wondering why would Jermaine change his name...it's virtually who he is, it's the name that made him and his family famous. Ok, the pronunciation remains the same, but ... it's all confusing and disturbing.
One other thing...and I hope you don't get me wrong...I've usually seen this, and since I myself have worked as a news anchor in a radio station, happen to know that media sometimes makes a partnership with celebrities or famous people, in that the celebrities are giving the media news subjects every single time another important political, social aspect happens in the world/in the respective country, just to "move" people's attention from that aspect. In Romania, unfortunately, it happens all the time. Every time some bad thing -for our country -like majoring prices, political issues, etc -happens, BOOM!!! - some celebrity scandal is suddenly everywhere - from the first page of a newspaper, to every single TV show, to...everywhere. So, you get to hear people talking about those celebrities from morning to midnight, and the most important news- of fuel costs, food prices getting up, Romania facing yet another EU challenge etc - pass without almost any comment from anyone...
So I'm wondering if maybe, just maybe, this whole JackSUN thing isn't but some attempt to cover other aspects...other important news, being they even related to MJ...though I do have my doubts about such a possibility.
Just saying...just a thought... :smiley_abuv:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on February 26, 2013, 06:52:13 AM
isn't this stacy brown person the one whom jermaine was supposed to have written something with a long while ago then backed out or said this person was responsible for all the garbage in it (or whatever)?   not a big fan of jermaine and some of it almost sounds likely but it smells toooooooooooo bad. jmo
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Andrea on February 26, 2013, 07:58:19 AM
suspicious mind:
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isn't this stacy brown person the one whom jermaine was supposed to have written something with a long while ago then backed out or said this person was responsible for all the garbage in it (or whatever)?   not a big fan of jermaine and some of it almost sounds likely but it smells toooooooooooo bad. jmo

The bottom of that article says "* Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family"

Gee, with friends like that...  :icon_e_confused:


It's certainly a controversial article!  :icon_e_wink:  Definitely written with a slant to make Jermaine look like he's lost it.  If anything written in that article is "true" then I think Jermaine was either acting to cause the controversy or helped create the rumors to get people talking, maybe to see who would turn against him.  And of course, the media took the bait and twisted it as much as they could, it's what they do.

Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on February 26, 2013, 08:04:34 AM
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suspicious mind:
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isn't this stacy brown person the one whom jermaine was supposed to have written something with a long while ago then backed out or said this person was responsible for all the garbage in it (or whatever)?   not a big fan of jermaine and some of it almost sounds likely but it smells toooooooooooo bad. jmo

The bottom of that article says "* Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family"

Gee, with friends like that...  :icon_e_confused:


It's certainly a controversial article!  :icon_e_wink:  Definitely written with a slant to make Jermaine look like he's lost it.  If anything written in that article is "true" then I think Jermaine was either acting to cause the controversy or helped create the rumors to get people talking, maybe to see who would turn against him.  And of course, the media took the bait and twisted it as much as they could, it's what they do.
like i said in my post above... helping create the controversy, maybe even to distract our attention from something else... media does this...all the time.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 26, 2013, 08:07:43 AM
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My main thought about this article ?

For almost 4 years media have been all "MJ friendly" "Jackson friendly" but in the end, the varnish is not that big, and here is what we can read about a Jackson when they have any opportunity.
I actually have no idea what's in Jermaine's head and what is wrong from right, but this article just confirm me that media NEVER change.
They did overreact... with The King of Flop and all. They always do that, manipulating and exaggerating things... still, I cannot help wondering why would Jermaine change his name...it's virtually who he is, it's the name that made him and his family famous. Ok, the pronunciation remains the same, but ... it's all confusing and disturbing.
One other thing...and I hope you don't get me wrong...I've usually seen this, and since I myself have worked as a news anchor in a radio station, happen to know that media sometimes makes a partnership with celebrities or famous people, in that the celebrities are giving the media news subjects every single time another important political, social aspect happens in the world/in the respective country, just to "move" people's attention from that aspect. In Romania, unfortunately, it happens all the time. Every time some bad thing -for our country -like majoring prices, political issues, etc -happens, BOOM!!! - some celebrity scandal is suddenly everywhere - from the first page of a newspaper, to every single TV show, to...everywhere. So, you get to hear people talking about those celebrities from morning to midnight, and the most important news- of fuel costs, food prices getting up, Romania facing yet another EU challenge etc - pass without almost any comment from anyone...
So I'm wondering if maybe, just maybe, this whole JackSUN thing isn't but some attempt to cover other aspects...other important news, being they even related to MJ...though I do have my doubts about such a possibility.
Just saying...just a thought... :smiley_abuv:

I think Jermaine Jackson changing is name is not big event enough to be a worldwide "attention magnet" even only in the US.
Now maybe there are some Jackson issues we didn't pay attention to, while Jermaine is becoming a Jacksun.

I'm just afraid Jermaine had the crazy idea that becoming another "wacko" (for the media) might get him to sound even more "Michaelish". I can't explain it correctly, but maybe it is some marketing choice from him to appear like this for the media. Like MJ "played" it in the early years, before it turned out of control.

If it is so, i would only say : what a huge artist can risk, because his talent overcomes everything in the end, will only look pathetic for "someone else".

I really hope it's part of the hoax and only made for some other purpose than looking like MJ
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on February 26, 2013, 08:10:07 AM
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My main thought about this article ?

For almost 4 years media have been all "MJ friendly" "Jackson friendly" but in the end, the varnish is not that big, and here is what we can read about a Jackson when they have any opportunity.
I actually have no idea what's in Jermaine's head and what is wrong from right, but this article just confirm me that media NEVER change.
They did overreact... with The King of Flop and all. They always do that, manipulating and exaggerating things... still, I cannot help wondering why would Jermaine change his name...it's virtually who he is, it's the name that made him and his family famous. Ok, the pronunciation remains the same, but ... it's all confusing and disturbing.
One other thing...and I hope you don't get me wrong...I've usually seen this, and since I myself have worked as a news anchor in a radio station, happen to know that media sometimes makes a partnership with celebrities or famous people, in that the celebrities are giving the media news subjects every single time another important political, social aspect happens in the world/in the respective country, just to "move" people's attention from that aspect. In Romania, unfortunately, it happens all the time. Every time some bad thing -for our country -like majoring prices, political issues, etc -happens, BOOM!!! - some celebrity scandal is suddenly everywhere - from the first page of a newspaper, to every single TV show, to...everywhere. So, you get to hear people talking about those celebrities from morning to midnight, and the most important news- of fuel costs, food prices getting up, Romania facing yet another EU challenge etc - pass without almost any comment from anyone...
So I'm wondering if maybe, just maybe, this whole JackSUN thing isn't but some attempt to cover other aspects...other important news, being they even related to MJ...though I do have my doubts about such a possibility.
Just saying...just a thought... :smiley_abuv:

I think Jermaine Jackson changing is name is not big event enough to be a worldwide "attention magnet" even only in the US.
Now maybe there are some Jackson issues we didn't pay attention to, while Jermaine is becoming a Jacksun.

I'm just afraid Jermaine had the crazy idea that becoming another "wacko" (for the media) might get him to sound even more "Michaelish". I can't explain it correctly, but maybe it is some marketing choice from him to appear like this for the media. Like MJ "played" it in the early years, before it turned out of control.

If it is so, i would only say : what a huge artist can risk, because his talent overcomes everything in the end, will only look pathetic for "someone else".

I really hope it's part of the hoax and only made for some other purpose than looking like MJ
you know what? you're right....
in the end, we can only hope this is a part of the hoax...
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on February 26, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
This is only a hoax related parallelism:

MICHAEL JACKSON = WACKO JACKO
JERMAINE JACKSUN = THE KING OF FLOP

Hasn't THE SUN been the most that crushed Michael's name??
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: paula-c on February 26, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
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suspicious mind:
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isn't this stacy brown person the one whom jermaine was supposed to have written something with a long while ago then backed out or said this person was responsible for all the garbage in it (or whatever)?   not a big fan of jermaine and some of it almost sounds likely but it smells toooooooooooo bad. jmo

The bottom of that article says "* Stacy Brown is a reporter and longtime friend of the Jackson family"

Gee, with friends like that...  :icon_e_confused:


It's certainly a controversial article!  :icon_e_wink:  Definitely written with a slant to make Jermaine look like he's lost it.  If anything written in that article is "true" then I think Jermaine was either acting to cause the controversy or helped create the rumors to get people talking, maybe to see who would turn against him.  And of course, the media took the bait and twisted it as much as they could, it's what they do.
like i said in my post above... helping create the controversy, maybe even to distract our attention from something else... media does this...all the time.



25 June 2009, while all we were attentive to the "death" of MJ, on the other hand spoke of  ark of the Covenant and the Pope also dedicate a few words to the new world order.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MJonmind on February 26, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
It's almost laughable as to why Jermaine changing his name is newsworthy (1 letter at that).  Like who would even care.
As for Jermaine acting like MJ, doesn't he know it's repulsive to any MJ fans--so therefore it has to be a strategy for hoax purposes, and he's somehow sacrificing his pride for the hoax.  The brothers have said they would continue to be Michael's voice.  Front and TS were always supportive of Jermaine.

Girl_In_the_mirror, I totally agree that these non-news events are to cover significant world news with a dark agenda, all ultimately NWO.  I'm convinced MJ's 93 and 2005 trials and tribulations were to cover the massive/ongoing pedophilia since the inception of the Catholic church use of 'celibate' priests working with children. Unimaginably and horrifyingly despicable blight on our world for generations.  And the war being waged is on such a massive and epic scale.
https://samaritansentinel.com/uploads/The_Culling_of_Man_Final_Copy_1_24_13.pdf

All we can do is 'keep watching'...  All I know FOR SURE is I love Michael, and he is alive!
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on February 26, 2013, 03:41:04 PM
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It's almost laughable as to why Jermaine changing his name is newsworthy (1 letter at that).  Like who would even care.
As for Jermaine acting like MJ, doesn't he know it's repulsive to any MJ fans--so therefore it has to be a strategy for hoax purposes, and he's somehow sacrificing his pride for the hoax.  The brothers have said they would continue to be Michael's voice.  Front and TS were always supportive of Jermaine.

Girl_In_the_mirror, I totally agree that these non-news events are to cover significant world news with a dark agenda, all ultimately NWO.  I'm convinced MJ's 93 and 2005 trials and tribulations were to cover the massive/ongoing pedophilia since the inception of the Catholic church use of 'celibate' priests working with children. Unimaginably and horrifyingly despicable blight on our world for generations.  And the war being waged is on such a massive and epic scale.
https://samaritansentinel.com/uploads/The_Culling_of_Man_Final_Copy_1_24_13.pdf

All we can do is 'keep watching'...  All I know FOR SURE is I love Michael, and he is alive!
Thank you, MJonmind...it was just a simple thought... but maybe not so wrong, after all...
On what you said: totally true, I wanted to say this too, but honestly, I wasn't totally sure, but I've read your link....
Seeing your last sentence, I cannot help but say that I feel the same way too ... and as weird as it sounds, it feels so good when more people are using their positive beautiful energy on something. I hope Mike feels our positive feelings. God, I am so happy just at the thought he's there, somewhere... peaceful and happy, waiting to come back. [Too emotional right now...listening to MJ's Much too soon song...so gimme some credit here, okay?  :'( :p]
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on February 26, 2013, 04:14:30 PM
this is also pushing the drug addict idea by saying that jermaine feels guilty about the death due to his warning michael about coming family interventions.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 26, 2013, 05:07:55 PM
This is really getting rediculous and like you, I believe this story and some of the other non newsworthy stories like those relating to Murray are thrown out there to deflect from a bigger story.  But what?  For Jermaine’s sake, I hope this is part of the hoax because if it isn’t then I will have to believe that he is totally losing it.  He is not Michael & if he thinks he can ever replace him he is totally mistaken.   I am tying to find the thread where Branca says he is Michael Jackson now. Can anyone point me to it? Thankx  :compute:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MaryK on February 27, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
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This is really getting rediculous and like you, I believe this story and some of the other non newsworthy stories like those relating to Murray are thrown out there to deflect from a bigger story.  But what?  For Jermaine’s sake, I hope this is part of the hoax because if it isn’t then I will have to believe that he is totally losing it.  He is not Michael & if he thinks he can ever replace him he is totally mistaken.   I am tying to find the thread where Branca says he is Michael Jackson now. Can anyone point me to it? Thankx  :compute:

Here you go hes:

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23012.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23012.0.html)

It was in the infamous letter.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: wishingstar on February 28, 2013, 09:08:45 AM
Wow MaryK.....I must have missed that letter the first time.  I remember the quotes and the talk about it all....but I am not
sure I ever read it fully.  Just wow.  What exactly did Branca mean by, "I am Michael Jackson now"......I don't get it. 
Is he really that egotistical?  Ugh......lawyers. 
Thanks for posting this.....there's some good links too at the bottom of that page.....so much information out there for
us to read! 

Blessings
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 28, 2013, 09:16:25 AM
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This is really getting rediculous and like you, I believe this story and some of the other non newsworthy stories like those relating to Murray are thrown out there to deflect from a bigger story.  But what?  For Jermaine’s sake, I hope this is part of the hoax because if it isn’t then I will have to believe that he is totally losing it.  He is not Michael & if he thinks he can ever replace him he is totally mistaken.   I am tying to find the thread where Branca says he is Michael Jackson now. Can anyone point me to it? Thankx  :compute:

Here you go hes:

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23012.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23012.0.html)

It was in the infamous letter.

Thanks maryK - what balls this man has… uugggghhhh - I want to punch him  :icon_evil:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on February 28, 2013, 10:09:08 AM
Here TheWhiteRabbitful is trying to connect the change of Jermaine's family name to Egypt:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6c8cu7WLbo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MaryK on February 28, 2013, 07:46:24 PM
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Wow MaryK.....I must have missed that letter the first time.  I remember the quotes and the talk about it all....but I am not
sure I ever read it fully.  Just wow.  What exactly did Branca mean by, "I am Michael Jackson now"......I don't get it. 
Is he really that egotistical?  Ugh......lawyers. 
Thanks for posting this.....there's some good links too at the bottom of that page.....so much information out there for
us to read! 

Blessings

Well...what does "I am Michael Jackson now" mean....

Depends on how you look at things and what your opinion on the subject is.... the Estate and the executors.

If you consider them to be the bad guys then it means "Michael Jackson is nothing more than a brand and I now rule the king´s empire and make money off of him and his name".

If you think Estate=MJ, well then it  means just that...MJ is in control.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: fairy23 on February 28, 2013, 08:04:03 PM
Jacksun... Maybe its another clue. You know... JackSUN... The SUN was one of the symbols of this hoax... It appeared in Coca-cola for example... The sun is also connected with Horus... an egyptian God...   
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 01, 2013, 08:32:38 AM
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Jacksun... Maybe its another clue. You know... JackSUN... The SUN was one of the symbols of this hoax... It appeared in Coca-cola for example... The sun is also connected with Horus... an egyptian God...

You are right,  from the beginning the most simbolic thing of the hoax were the SUNflowers for instance.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on March 01, 2013, 08:39:33 AM
maybe he changed his name to sun because he knows that is the only way the earth is ever going to revolve around him .  :icon_evil:  :-[sorry that was mean but............... :icon_rolleyes:. and by the way that comment about michael loving to be in the sun.  :( he was allergic to it
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 01, 2013, 10:53:46 AM
I simply don’t get it  :icon_e_confused:  Why go through all that trouble for one letter change, especially if the letter wasn’t “N”?
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Faithad777 on March 01, 2013, 11:17:08 AM
Why go through all that trouble for one letter change, especially if the letter wasn’t “N”?

Ha Ha Ha, very funny, hes.  I was almost beginning to forget about the letter "N".  I guess now we also have to watch out for the letter "U", or the word "SUN", or........

Oh, who knows anymore, I don't know anything anymore......... :Pulling_hair:


Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 01, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
 :fresse: Just read this article again trying to figure out what it means.  Then I glanced one more time at the picture they chose for it and thought it could be a joke and just stand for ugly, lol…..
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 05, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
I was browsing as usual trying to make sense of this name change and something occurred to me so I’m running it by you.  Here is a link to Michael’s signatures:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1241&bih=570&q=michael+jackson+signature&oq=michael+jackson+signature&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.3811.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac..5.img.7OVRiOmb_2I#hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=michael+jackson%27s+signature&oq=michael+jackson%27s+signature&gs_l=img.12..0j0i24.55302.55302.2.57891.1.1.0.0.0.0.2146.2146.9-1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.5.img.lKpVfE5GG8g&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43287494,d.eWU&fp=9b6fa83ab0c90645&biw=1241&bih=570 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1241&bih=570&q=michael+jackson+signature&oq=michael+jackson+signature&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.3811.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac..5.img.7OVRiOmb_2I#hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=michael+jackson%27s+signature&oq=michael+jackson%27s+signature&gs_l=img.12..0j0i24.55302.55302.2.57891.1.1.0.0.0.0.2146.2146.9-1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.5.img.lKpVfE5GG8g&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43287494,d.eWU&fp=9b6fa83ab0c90645&biw=1241&bih=570)

...and here is a copy of part of the will that he allegedly signed:

  (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwE3-sBclSlVfImuBbYkmDWtCsNd4g8theakmKaFMDuCjLaGz-)

Jermaine says: OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN  so here is my theory:  Michael Jackson’s signature slightly changed over the years.  If I am not mistaken he added the sunburst later in his career.  So could it be possible that Jermaine is telling us that Michael’s official signage of “Jackson” will have the sunburst at the tail? Any documents signed after a certain period without that should be considered fraudulent?  So “officially a JACKSUN" = Michael’s official signature after a certain date  (don’t know the answer to that part yet).  so the next question is:  when did Michael start adding that little extra to his signature?  I’m diging with straws but could this be feasible?  :icon_pale:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Girl_In_the_Mirror on March 06, 2013, 02:38:00 AM
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I was browsing as usual trying to make sense of this name change and something occurred to me so I’m running it by you.  Here is a link to Michael’s signatures:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1241&bih=570&q=michael+jackson+signature&oq=michael+jackson+signature&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.3811.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac..5.img.7OVRiOmb_2I#hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=michael+jackson%27s+signature&oq=michael+jackson%27s+signature&gs_l=img.12..0j0i24.55302.55302.2.57891.1.1.0.0.0.0.2146.2146.9-1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.5.img.lKpVfE5GG8g&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43287494,d.eWU&fp=9b6fa83ab0c90645&biw=1241&bih=570 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1241&bih=570&q=michael+jackson+signature&oq=michael+jackson+signature&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.3811.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac..5.img.7OVRiOmb_2I#hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=michael+jackson%27s+signature&oq=michael+jackson%27s+signature&gs_l=img.12..0j0i24.55302.55302.2.57891.1.1.0.0.0.0.2146.2146.9-1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.5.img.lKpVfE5GG8g&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43287494,d.eWU&fp=9b6fa83ab0c90645&biw=1241&bih=570)

...and here is a copy of part of the will that he allegedly signed:

  (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwE3-sBclSlVfImuBbYkmDWtCsNd4g8theakmKaFMDuCjLaGz-)

Jermaine says: OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN  so here is my theory:  Michael Jackson’s signature slightly changed over the years.  If I am not mistaken he added the sunburst later in his career.  So could it be possible that Jermaine is telling us that Michael’s official signage of “Jackson” will have the sunburst at the tail? Any documents signed after a certain period without that should be considered fraudulent?  So “officially a JACKSUN" = Michael’s official signature after a certain date  (don’t know the answer to that part yet).  so the next question is:  when did Michael start adding that little extra to his signature?  I’m diging with straws but could this be feasible?  :icon_pale:
Well, I found lots of pictures with his signature, but what surprised me was this particular one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fa/1/1a/Michael_Jackson_signature_1988.jpg) in which it says this signature is from 1988. On other pictures, you find his signature from the early 2000's [at least that's what is says there], but ...without the sunburst. So... it's all a bit confusing to me. When did he start to use the sunburst exactly?  :confused:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: whatyourheartsays on March 06, 2013, 08:28:11 AM
It would need to compare official documents ONLY. Because you cannot compare a signature to an autograph. official document having this "sunny signature" ?
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 06, 2013, 08:47:31 AM
All this hoax is very confusing to me because if the hoax started 20 years ago and now the hoax is basically based on the AEG wrongdoing behaviour was Michael aware of TII concerts by then?? so that means that as the years passed he was adding the wrongdoing behaviours to the hoax horror list, so some things were predictable but others were not, the sunburst in his signature was probably one of the predictable things hinting Jermaine's change of name, sunflowers, etc...

ps: @whatyourheartsays of course you won't find in any official document the sunburst drawing.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: marumjj on March 06, 2013, 07:22:30 PM
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This is really getting rediculous and like you, I believe this story and some of the other non newsworthy stories like those relating to Murray are thrown out there to deflect from a bigger story.  But what?  For Jermaine’s sake, I hope this is part of the hoax because if it isn’t then I will have to believe that he is totally losing it.  He is not Michael & if he thinks he can ever replace him he is totally mistaken.   I am tying to find the thread where Branca says he is Michael Jackson now. Can anyone point me to it? Thankx  :compute:




Here you go hes:




http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23012.0.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23012.0.html)

It was in the infamous letter.

Maryk OMG! I also lost it, if I think MJ died, I find it very hard for the family to see this, but as we know it is not so, say it is a way of saying that they are the visible face of MJ   :WTF:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on March 06, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
that crack about being michael jackson now almost seems to imply that  :icon_e_confused: besides michael jackson was being micheals jackson at some point.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on March 06, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
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JERMAINE JACKSON
Name Change Complete ...
OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN (http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/22/jermaine-jackson-name-change/)

2/22/2013 2:06 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/02/22/0222-jermaine-jackson-1.jpg)

Call him Jermaine Jacksun ... with a "U" ... because as of this afternoon, that's legally his name.

We've learned ... an L.A. County Superior Court judge approved the singer's petition for the name change, which the 58-year-old filed back in November. 

TMZ broke the story ... the man formerly known as "Jermaine Jackson" had said he wanted to make the change for "artistic reasons" ... whatever that means.

Jermaine was not present during the hearing ... because he's off in Europe performing with his brothers ... the Jacksons.


 :thjajaja121:

Oh man Jerm, WTF? with the face expression dude?  :omg:  :icon_albino:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Faithad777 on March 06, 2013, 10:24:02 PM
This news about Jermaine's LETTER change (I don't think it should be called Name Change) could be another media creation, since Jermaine so far hasn't confirmed nor denied any of it, unlike Latoya...... All we've seen are words written by tabloid/media even if they are very good at making the whole thing sound extremely believable........ and that's exactly how they grab people's attention, by creating false news yet making them SOUND very true and believable.......

Has Jermaine commented at all about the subject?  All they have done is showed an unflattering picture of him with the article, and this is how they ruin people's  lives by creating lies and making sure these lies are so believable that the public doesn't even suspect that they may not be true..........
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: fairy23 on March 07, 2013, 07:41:40 AM
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This news about Jermaine's LETTER change (I don't think it should be called Name Change) could be another media creation, since Jermaine so far hasn't confirmed nor denied any of it, unlike Latoya...... All we've seen are words written by tabloid/media even if they are very good at making the whole thing sound extremely believable........ and that's exactly how they grab people's attention, by creating false news yet making them SOUND very true and believable.......

Has Jermaine commented at all about the subject?  All they have done is showed an unflattering picture of him with the article, and this is how they ruin people's  lives by creating lies and making sure these lies are so believable that the public doesn't even suspect that they may not be true..........


That's the point. We don't believe in TMZ or other tabloids ( i don't). But someone is using media to tell us that MJ is alive... Remember... TMZ was the first to announce MJs death... So, how do we know that he is dead?... I think Jermaine didn't change his name at all. Actually i dont believe Jermaine too, no matter what he says...loool He's playing his role...
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: suspicious mind on March 08, 2013, 09:01:16 AM
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JERMAINE JACKSON
Name Change Complete ...
OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN (http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/22/jermaine-jackson-name-change/)

2/22/2013 2:06 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/02/22/0222-jermaine-jackson-1.jpg)

Call him Jermaine Jacksun ... with a "U" ... because as of this afternoon, that's legally his name.

We've learned ... an L.A. County Superior Court judge approved the singer's petition for the name change, which the 58-year-old filed back in November. 

TMZ broke the story ... the man formerly known as "Jermaine Jackson" had said he wanted to make the change for "artistic reasons" ... whatever that means.

Jermaine was not present during the hearing ... because he's off in Europe performing with his brothers ... the Jacksons.


 :thjajaja121:

Oh man Jerm, WTF? with the face expression dude?  :omg:  :icon_albino:

actually he kinda looks like that is exactly what he is doing , dropping a big f bomb ! :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 08, 2013, 02:31:30 PM
The Michael Jackson Hoax Investigation Facebook answered to my question when I asked them as follows:

Is Michael coming back?? if yes.... when??

And this was the answer:

"BeLIEve (The Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigation) We are looking at June in Vegas at the Mandolay Bay Cirque show for MJ called 'ONE'... He's going to need a place and the spotlight!!!"


What do you guys think?? after all Jermaine's change of name into JackSUN might mean SUN = SOLEIL.
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: hachiman on March 09, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
First post in months. I thought it was believed that MJ would return in his own time. My hopes are staying down. Jermaine, would you like a carrot? Lol
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: fairy23 on March 10, 2013, 06:10:52 AM
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The Michael Jackson Hoax Investigation Facebook answered to my question when I asked them as follows:

Is Michael coming back?? if yes.... when??

And this was the answer:

"BeLIEve (The Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigation) We are looking at June in Vegas at the Mandolay Bay Cirque show for MJ called 'ONE'... He's going to need a place and the spotlight!!!"


What do you guys think?? after all Jermaine's change of name into JackSUN might mean SUN = SOLEIL.

I think Michael is gonna come back in his own time. Remember when someone said that THIS IS IT would have a second part? We have to be patient. It´s not the moment...
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: diggyon on March 10, 2013, 06:55:45 AM
I don't think MJ will return that way! I think it would be a time when no one is expecting him to come back, not even believers!! Though, he could perform during the cirque de soleil show, just as he did in Obee's video and also Hollywood tonight video!! It's always fun to see him in person from time to time, leaving some clues behind and waving us from afar. But a "BAM" is defenitely something different!

Blessings
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: fairy23 on March 11, 2013, 05:26:21 AM
The sun is also a masonic symbol. It represents life, health, balance and strength. :affraid:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: paula-c on March 11, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
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The sun is also a masonic symbol. It represents life, health, balance and strength. :affraid:




It is "The Lord of the sky", "The one on the heights",It is also the "God" of satanists eyes are the Sun and the moon... :errrr: :fresse: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: fairy23 on March 11, 2013, 04:48:51 PM
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The sun is also a masonic symbol. It represents life, health, balance and strength. :affraid:




It is "The Lord of the sky", "The one on the heights",It is also the "God" of satanists eyes are the Sun and the moon... :errrr: :fresse: :LolLolLolLol:

Actually, those things come all from the egyptian culture...LOL :icon_geek:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: wishingstar on March 11, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
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The Michael Jackson Hoax Investigation Facebook answered to my question when I asked them as follows:

Is Michael coming back?? if yes.... when??

And this was the answer:

"BeLIEve (The Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigation) We are looking at June in Vegas at the Mandolay Bay Cirque show for MJ called 'ONE'... He's going to need a place and the spotlight!!!"


What do you guys think?? after all Jermaine's change of name into JackSUN might mean SUN = SOLEIL.

Hey sweetsunset...........
I have always felt bam will be totally unpredictable and totally out of the blue.  I like the whole sun=soleil thing.....maybe it's a subtle reference to the
family giving approval of the show or something?  I am still on the fence about him actually changing his name....I just understand why he would. 
Sun.....we have seen many references to it over almost 4 years now.  It's the biggest, brightest, boldest, baddest star in our galaxy .... now that, reminds me of Michael : )
Blessings!
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: MJonmind on March 11, 2013, 11:05:09 PM
'One' we can't live without!  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: JERMAINE JACKSON Name Change Complete ... OFFICIALLY A JACKSUN
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on April 23, 2013, 05:23:02 PM
several hoaxers believe the JackSUN reference is for us to pay attention to THE SUN paper...

Whiterabbitful has made a few videos abt this I think
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