Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: LoveNeedsExpression on June 09, 2013, 04:28:43 AM
-
PARIS JACKSON
Transferred to the Same
Hospital Where MJ Died
Paris Jackson was transfered to UCLA Medical Center this evening, effectively ending her 72-hour psychiatric hold, and TMZ has the exclusive video of her being wheeled into the hospital.
As TMZ first reported, Jackson was rushed to the hospital early Wednesday morning after Jackson allegedly cut her forearm with a meat cleaver. Jackson was taken to a local hospital and placed under a 5150 psychiatric hold for 72 hours.
Our photog spotted Jackson and a slew of bodyguards outside UCLA Medical Center as Jackson was being wheeled in this afternoon. Our photog tried to get an update on Paris' condition from one of the bodyguards. He was mum, but his mood suggested Jackson was doing better.
The Jackson family is no stranger to UCLA Medical Center -- Michael was taken there when he went into cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. That's where he would later pass away.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2013/06/08/paris-jackson-video
-
That video was hilarious!
"How was your day?"
"My day? I can't complain, I'm alive.. so I'm good."
"Good things happening?"
"Always"
and was that Omer Bhatti walking in at 00:58 ??
-
and why the hell is Paris in a wheelchair? They said she is physically fine, and I don't believe a second Paris is so 'mentally unstable' that she can't use her own feet. I've been in mental hospital for severe depression and they NEVER put me in a freaking wheelchair, wtf. I always walked on my own ..this just looks so fake to me.
Reminds me of MJs wheelchair hoax
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n488/Mizugetsu94/000123_zpsf0e05190.jpg) (http://s1136.photobucket.com/user/Mizugetsu94/media/000123_zpsf0e05190.jpg.html)
-
I can't even tell from the vid if that is really her...
@loveyoumore, lol that is the first thing I thought of when they showed someone entering UCLA in a wheelchair
-
Of course it would be UCLA.
I didn't see Paris.
-
Of course it would be UCLA.
I didn't see Paris.
It is true, it can be any person
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/06/09/060813-paris-jackson-primary-150.jpg)
-
Of course it would be UCLA.
I didn't see Paris.
It is true, it can be any person
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/06/09/060813-paris-jackson-primary-150.jpg)
Could be Paris, a double, a dummy, nothing, or someone else completely. :icon_exclaim:
-
I think Michael is using parallelisms in between both stories his and her daughter:
1- same UCLA Hospital.
2- the use of wheelchair (in Michael's case 6 months before "death" to get public ready for it).
3- confusion around the real story about her "suicide bid"/ his "death", Paris ➜ cuts on her forearm and/or pills overdose, Michael ➜ cardiac arrest, propofol overdose, in a coma.
4- we never saw the real Michael or Paris in the stretcher, Paris & Michael's pics on the stretcher are photoshopped.
-
How many times TMZ repeated the words butcher's knife, who told them :icon_question:
-
Of course , it has to be UCLA , of all the hospitals out there they choose that.
Actually if i were her i wouldn't be in the same hospital that my dad died in ! that's another reason for why i think it's fake
and what's up with that video ! No one can tell who is in that wheel chair could be anyone !!
@Loveyoumore. you are totally right in that , that is the first thing flashed in my mind
@sweetsunsetwithMJ Thank you for collecting those ideas i totally agree with you
-
I think Michael is using parallelisms in between both stories his and her daughter:
1- same UCLA Hospital.
2- the use of wheelchair (in Michael's case 6 months before "death" to get public ready for it).
3- confusion around the real story about her "suicide bid"/ his "death", Paris ➜ cuts on her forearm and/or pills overdose, Michael ➜ cardiac arrest, propofol overdose, in a coma.
4- we never saw the real Michael or Paris in the stretcher, Paris & Michael's pics on the stretcher are photoshopped.
and June 25 is approaching :icon_mrgreen: :michael-jackson:
-
The Jackson family is no stranger to UCLA Medical Center -- Michael was taken there when he went into cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. That's where he would later pass away.
Just noticed that TMZ implied that Michael was still alive when he went to UCLA, not already 'dead'.
-
The Jackson family is no stranger to UCLA Medical Center -- Michael was taken there when he went into cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. That's where he would later pass away.
Just noticed that TMZ implied that Michael was still alive when he went to UCLA, not already 'dead'.
Also stating that MJ went to UCLA... and that's where he "pass"ed... "away". Clearly didn't pass...away at some airport. Lol.
-
The Jackson family is no stranger to UCLA Medical Center -- Michael was taken there when he went into cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. That's where he would later pass away.
Just noticed that TMZ implied that Michael was still alive when he went to UCLA, not already 'dead'.
Also stating that MJ went to UCLA... and that's where he "pass"ed... "away". Clearly didn't pass...away at some airport. Lol.
Lol, they couldn't have written that more awkwardly or deliberately.
-
Yes, here's how a normal statement would be written:
"The Jackson family is no stranger to UCLA Medical Center -- Michael was rushed there when he suffered cardiac arrest on June 25th, 2009 and later passed away."
-
I'm not'one to always chime in, but these pass few days have been so eventfull! :multiplespotting: its extremely exciting! I think this situation is completely unreal. Why would they send a"suicidal" teen to the place where her beloved father ''pass''. Non-suicidal individuals would feel compelled to sadness in a place where a close family member passed, its grief that possibly wouldnt go away for years . A child with daily reminders of her her fathers passing is not going to be comfortable with staying at the hospital ''he would later pass'' in.
And for the tmz wording. Where he would later on pass away. They say it like he never passed on June 25th to me. Like its still in the future. Passed is the correct term for something that happened in the pass. Weird.
-
You're right, kiwigon, that's a good point. It actually should say "where MJ passed away after being rushed by ambulance following a cardiac arrest at his home."
Of course it's just semantics, but it's fun.
-
On the other hand...(non- hoax version), it is quite possible that part of her therapy requires her to face her demons and return to the place of her fathers death....usually it's part of the healing process. (Its just another possible scenario).
UCLA Psychology Clinic is said to be one of the best.......
Information about the various services provided by the UCLA Psychology Clinic: low-fee therapy and assessment/testing services for adults, children, couples, and families.
http://www.psych.ucla.edu/center-and-programs/clinic
Just giving an objective point of view......Its always good to see things without hoax eyes for a moment.
This is how the non-beLIEvers would see this situation........
-
On the other hand...(non- hoax version), it is quite possible that part of her therapy requires her to face her demons and return to the place of her fathers death....usually it's part of the healing process. (Its just another possible scenario).
UCLA Psychology Clinic is said to be one of the best.......
Information about the various services provided by the UCLA Psychology Clinic: low-fee therapy and assessment/testing services for adults, children, couples, and families.
http://www.psych.ucla.edu/center-and-programs/clinic
Just giving an objective point of view......Its always good to see things without hoax eyes for a moment.
This is how the non-beLIEvers would see this situation........
I totally agree, there is no reason why she should not be treated at UCLA and it may well serve as part of her recovery.
She may have been taken in by wheelchair due to weakness, dizziness or a number of other causes linked to her attempted suicide or treatment. She has also been contained for 72hrs or more and is most probably feeling frightened and bewildered.
-
umm does anyone know if (provided it is real) that this kind of event leads to medication of any sort as treatment?
-
If it were real, medication would be an option, yes. But it would depend on several factors.
Again, if it were real, no doctor would Rx her to "face her fears" within 72 hours of a suicide attempt. Maybe after months of therapy, but then in order to replace a bad memory/experience with a positive one. Not to shove her face in it and force her to cope.
-
It may have been one of the only hospitals with a place to take her, or it may be a hospital placement that the Estate have arranged.
The availability of placements may differ in the US, as I believe you pay for your treatment, unlike the UK's NHS System where you get what you are given or face a long waiting list, so I'm unfamiliar with the protocol.
The main point is that Paris gets the appropriate treatment she needs to help her, regardless of what Hospital it's in.
-
You get your choice of facility in the US. Sky's the limit if you're rich.
-
If it were real, medication would be an option, yes. But it would depend on several factors.
Again, if it were real, no doctor would Rx her to "face her fears" within 72 hours of a suicide attempt. Maybe after months of therapy, but then in order to replace a bad memory/experience with a positive one. Not to shove her face in it and force her to cope.
IMO this seems unrealistic.
When my daughter tried, she (and we) walked into emergency on her own two feet with bloody arm, pressing down cloths to stop bleeding, whilse holding the horrible knife she wouldn't let go of. She talked to psychologist who MOST definitely was not trying to get her to face her demons right then. They gave us calming medication for her--we could not trust her to keep it, since she had tried twice to down sleeping pills found at boyfriend's house. She was 15 then, now 21 and happily long through that time.
Everything about this screams hoax to me, the more time and news stories that come out.
Loveyoumore, that does look like Omer Bhatti, but can't be sure. A lot of the time he wears his caps backward.
-
That video was hilarious!
"How was your day?"
"My day? I can't complain, I'm alive.. so I'm good."
"Good things happening?"
"Always"
and was that Omer Bhatti walking in at 00:58 ??
Who is the dark-skinned man that talks to tmz?
-
On the other hand...(non- hoax version), it is quite possible that part of her therapy requires her to face her demons and return to the place of her fathers death....usually it's part of the healing process. (Its just another possible scenario).
UCLA Psychology Clinic is said to be one of the best.......
Information about the various services provided by the UCLA Psychology Clinic: low-fee therapy and assessment/testing services for adults, children, couples, and families.
http://www.psych.ucla.edu/center-and-programs/clinic
Just giving an objective point of view......Its always good to see things without hoax eyes for a moment.
This is how the non-beLIEvers would see this situation........
ok for therapy... :icon_rolleyes: but with just one week from what happened ? :icon_rolleyes:...mmmmm..... :icon_rolleyes:
-
That video was hilarious!
"How was your day?"
"My day? I can't complain, I'm alive.. so I'm good."
"Good things happening?"
"Always"
and was that Omer Bhatti walking in at 00:58 ??
Who is the dark-skinned man that talks to tmz?
TMZ claims he's one of the bodyguards.
-
The more I see the word TMZ...this is what I keep thinking in my head...
I can't even tell from the vid if that is really her...
@loveyoumore, lol that is the first thing I thought of when they showed someone entering UCLA in a wheelchair
-
Reminds me of MJs wheelchair hoax
Me too.
I don't know about hospital policy in the US, but isn't it a standard rule to wheel in a patient on arrival even if the patient's physical condition is ok?
-
Reminds me of MJs wheelchair hoax
Me too.
I don't know about hospital policy in the US, but isn't it a standard rule to wheel in a patient on arrival even if the patient's physical condition is ok?
No. I've seen that rumored on the other board too but it's 100% false.
-
Loveyoumore, that does look like Omer Bhatti, but can't be sure. A lot of the time he wears his caps backward.
Omer was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that boy. Also Omer hasn't tweeted in 6 days, maybe he really is in LA for Paris and he doesn't have time to tweet there. He used to tweet daily before Paris' 'attempt'. But yes MJonmind, can't be sure at all. almost every boy wear similar type of caps he does. It could be anyone. :icon_e_biggrin:
-
http://www.contactmusic.com/news/paris-jackson-s-mum-stays-away-from-hospital_3713856
Michael Jackson - Paris Jackson's Mum Stays Away From Hospital
11 June 2013
The biological mother of troubled teen Paris Jackson steered clear of the hospital where her daughter is recovering from an apparent suicide attempt because she could not handle the paparazzi scrum outside.
Michael Jackson's daughter was transferred to Ucla Medical Center, where her father was pronounced dead in 2009, late last week (ends07Jun13) following a medical emergency at her Calabasas, California home on Wednesday (05Jun13).
Family members visited the 15 year old over the weekend, but her mum Debbie Rowe stayed away, and now the famously press-shy former Mrs. Jackson explains why.
She tells U.S. news show Entertainment Tonight, "The reason I wasn't at Ucla was the damn paps (paparazzi) and people. The family needed a police escort to get out. Everybody needs to back off."
Go Debbie!
-
Yeah, what she said!! :icon_twisted: lol