Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: hopi on June 12, 2013, 01:32:15 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339949/Michael-Jackson-wrongful-death-trial-More-photographs-singers-bedroom.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2339949/Michael-Jackson-wrongful-death-trial-More-photographs-singers-bedroom.html)
please feel free to move the post/topic if this is the wrong place...
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I swear those Rx bottles were never there on the nightstand before ("death bed" pic), other things also, the Bayer bottle looks like product placement.
But notice that the Rx bottles all clearly say "Michael Jackson", not some crazy random alias as was widely reported.
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The medical service report said as birth date : 28. Aug 1958 not 29. August....
There are different pics from the bed.....some with bottles, some without.....some with juice bottles, some without.
The top of the bed looks different...maybee because of light and pic....sometimes it looks like a wooden top, now it looks gold.
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No doll on the bed, no knife on the nightstand....these pictures are completely different to the ones published earlier .......
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The medical service report said as birth date : 28. Aug 1958 not 29. August....
There are different pics from the bed.....some with bottles, some without.....some with juice bottles, some without.
The top of the bed looks different...maybee because of light and pic....sometimes it looks like a wooden top, now it looks gold.
Didn't one of the paramedics say under oath, that they found MJ on the bed??? The medical report says he was on the floor in a supine position and states that MJ was intubated already by CM???? I have seen this medical report before from another site and it was decifered as many inconsistencies...
The patients name is spelt wrong too. (Micheal instead of Michael)
Would this be considered authentic because of all the incorrect information???
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Look at the interior style on these photos. Being an interior decorator myself I am perfectly aware that you can trim a room to look old fashioned stylish but it's newly made. I would even say, this is some random old apartment from the 19th century staged as Michael Jacksons' bedroom. I for one do not even believe anymore that this bedroom even can be found at Carolwood. Same goes with Michaels' bedroom and toilet at Neverland. This looks ALL staged. The trial, the alleged evidence, just everything. Do not get fooled by what is in the forefront.
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On the next to last picture,is that Cathrine and Joe jackson,looks like cathrine sitting on the bed............ :icon_e_confused: :icon_e_confused:
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There is a close-up of inside a medical bag containing medical bottles & a box of some type of medication (I think) which has the word "Starline"...interesting!!!!! the name of the tourist bus "Starline Tours" which stopped out the front of Carolwood when the ambo was there and someone recorded video from the bus.... :suspect: :icon_albino:
EDIT: actually the box is a blood pressure monitor it seems.... an aneroid sphygmomanometer - Starline must be the brand of it?.....more product placement.....also has a star above the letter i as the Starline Tours does http://www.starlinetours.com/
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Just so it's all on one page, here is the original
(http://www.intmensorg.info/images/mjdb.jpg)
Many inconsistencies. Not even going to start mentioning them. Everything is slightly in the wrong position too. The latest photo that has been released is obviously a recreation of the original "death scene"
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Did you notice the "Three Stooges" tray on the night stand?
What caught my attention was the ECA stack tablets pictured.....Ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin tablets...used usually for weight-loss and as a "stimulant" ............Just look at the side effects....
Insomnia
Ephedrine and caffeine can also give you insomnia. If you suffer from insomnia on a regular basis, ephedrine and caffeine will make it even more difficult to go to sleep. High levels of caffeine can make insomnia worse. Combining the two stimulants can make insomnia more likely and worse in many cases. A popular diet pill that contains ephedrine and caffeine can cause restlessness and insomnia. If you are particularly sensitive to caffeine, you should avoid taking supplements that contain caffeine and ephedrine too close to bedtime. Don't consume caffeine four to six hours before bedtime.
Irritability and Anxiety
Both caffeine and ephedrine can cause irritability. Consuming ephedrine can make you two to three times more likely to experience psychiatric symptoms, such as anxiety and irritability. Central nervous system stimulants are often accompanied by a "crash" where you can experience a sudden drop in energy accompanied by anxiety and irritability. If you already take prescription medications for anxiety, irritability or a central system nervous stimulant for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, such as methylphenidate or dextroamphetamine, you should avoid taking supplements that have ephedrine and caffeine. Compared to other amphetamines, ephedrine produces less euphoria and more anxiety. Likewise, using ephedrine and caffeine on a daily basis can increase the probability of psychiatric side effects.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/355722-negative-side-effects-of-caffeine-ephedrine/#ixzz2W0O9LlqD
It seems really odd that MJ would take something that caused him to loose all that weight so rapidly, knowing it would add to his known insomnia.......
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Staged.
This is getting so exciting! :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
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The medical service report said as birth date : 28. Aug 1958 not 29. August....
There are different pics from the bed.....some with bottles, some without.....some with juice bottles, some without.
The top of the bed looks different...maybee because of light and pic....sometimes it looks like a wooden top, now it looks gold.
The bed and the bedside table are the same, compare both pics the one on the article and the one Aussie has posted.
2good I don't see those stooges?
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The medical service report said as birth date : 28. Aug 1958 not 29. August....
There are different pics from the bed.....some with bottles, some without.....some with juice bottles, some without.
The top of the bed looks different...maybee because of light and pic....sometimes it looks like a wooden top, now it looks gold.
The bed and the bedside table are the same, compare both pics the one on the article and the one Aussie has posted.
2good I don't see those stooges?
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/3stooges.jpg)
It's just visible on the very lower part of the night stand...this is a close up...
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The medical service report said as birth date : 28. Aug 1958 not 29. August....
There are different pics from the bed.....some with bottles, some without.....some with juice bottles, some without.
The top of the bed looks different...maybee because of light and pic....sometimes it looks like a wooden top, now it looks gold.
The bed and the bedside table are the same, compare both pics the one on the article and the one Aussie has posted.
2good I don't see those stooges?
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/3stooges.jpg)
It's just visible on the very lower part of the night stand...this is a close up...
Wow you have a keen eye, thanks for sharing 2good.
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Well we know (from Murray's trial) that the police moved things around to photograph them. (What the heck was going on with all that rule breaking anyway!) It doesn't seem strange to me if there are differences. It's all staged anyway. MJ didn't die there. What strikes me is it doesn't look like the scene for a dignified DWD patient's final hours either.
EDIT - Sweet, check your PMs.
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Michael was never on THE BED of OFF THE BED! because he was not there!? Its all a illusion Part of the whole plan! IMO its a set up no matter what people think! WE HAVE A GREAT MAN working on this hoax! WAKE UP PEOPLE READ BETWEEN THE LINES!
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Yes, things are off with all of this......also, there is the paramedic report and the hippa violations again. The report is very visible in this link.
I had done post a long time ago about some of the information within that report:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,19392.msg335730.html#msg335730
*ignore the News of the World links....They are outta biz : )))
But, if you go about half way down, you will start to read how the report is written incorrectly per the LADF manual.....
I think things are beginning to come full-circle....weird that these photos would now surface....trial or no trial.
Blessings Always
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/12/article-2339949-1A443E47000005DC-535_634x434.jpg) (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/12/article-2339949-1A444537000005DC-787_634x365.jpg)
Why anyone preserver a few empty bottles?, to then use them in these photos that we are seeing
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This is Exciting ... it's Approaching
Empty bottles ? why would you keep all of those !
"The Three Stooges" ? means .. ?
and those are way Different from the first published .. the doll ?
OMG and why Michael is Spelled WRONG ؟ "Micheal" ???
(http://i.imgur.com/57fsEw6.jpg?1)
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One of many things wrong on the paramedic report.........
per my post a while back.....
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,19392.msg335730.html#msg335730
The LAFD is a HIPAA covered entity...they have to obey the laws. This report is generated each time a paramedic goes out on a call. It is sort of their notes of what happened and becomes a permanent part of the patient's medical record.
Here is a training manual for the LAFD...section 4 talks about the form used by the paramedics:
http://lafdtraining.org/ists/books/bk35.pdf
"THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE REPORT (F-902M) is a subpoenable legal, medical, and billing document that becomes a permanent part of the patient's medical records. First on scene prehospital care providers shall initiate an F-902M for ALL calls dispatched, except "returned by radio." RefertoLAFD,Book5(F-902MInstructionManual)."
And the Book 5 (F-902M Instruction Manual):
http://lafdtraining.org/ists/books/bk05.pdf
This is my favorite link. It clearly states EXACTLY how to fill out this particular form. Which does not match up with what we have seen.
With this link to Book 5, you can see errors in how the form was filled out. Beginning with this quote:
"ENTRIES
Use a blue or black ball point pen and apply firm pressure to ensure clarity on all copies. PRINT all entries using CAPITAL LETTERS. For "check boxes" use a consistent symbol throughout the form, (e.g. use either all " / ", " X ", or " 4 ". Do not use dots or dashes."
*You can clearly see the handwriting in not ALL CAPS
Also, Book 5 goes line by line how to fill it out....I found some of these to be incorrectly filled out:
1) the second box of the report "Incident No." - the manual states it should be a four digit number, it's 512
2) the age box, the manual states:
"For all patients over the age of two years, (using three digits), enter the age in years followed by marking the Y.O. box.
EXAMPLE: A 25-year old patient's age shall be entered as 025and mark the Y.O. box." MJ's age is stated in the box as 50.
3) the box named 'VIA" - meaning how was the patient transported....it's not marked at all
4) Patient Information box:
"Name / Last, First and MI: Enter the patient's full last and first name, followed by the patient's middle initial using CAPITAL LETTERS."
- his first name is spelled wrong, it's not ALL CAPS and no middle initial is given.
5) the date of birth box:
"Enter the patient's date of birth using eight numbers in the MM/DD/YYYY format."
- the incorrect date is written and it's written with dots, not back-slashes (08 -28 -1958)
6) Patient File No. box:
"Patient File No.
The "Patient File Number," assigned by the receiving facility, is required when there is no patient name, address, and / or insurance information. If a member is unable to obtain a patient file number during their shift, the EMS Report should notbeheldback. DocumentinthePatientFileNo.space"UNABLETO OBTAIN" and forward the EMS Report through the normal routing procedure."
- I am stumped with this one...the number given is : 36/w3975944_4.
Why is there a number there?
7) The Comments section:
"All comments shall be clear,concise,and complete."
- not! the report is barely legible at times.........
I know it seems like I got off topic in my own thread.....but not really. I firmly believe that if this had been a factual death and this report was released, the LAFD would be in a huge HIPAA violation. But, because the report is so poorly filled out (on purpose, I am sure), you can totally see the hoax exposed with it. Here is a final quote about this report...remember LAFD is under HIPAA laws:
"GENERAL INFORMATION
The EMS Report is a legal document and can be subpoenaed. It becomes a permanent part of the patient's medical records. Pre-hospital care providers shall enter factual, objective observations, and findings only. Document justifications for actions done or not done and ensure that you are complete and consistent, especially when policies, procedures, or protocols are involved."
There is another piece of information that was clearly a HIPAA violation: the ambulance screen. There is very private information contained within the screen including the phone number involved, the address, age and basic problem.....not breathing at all. HIPAA restricts all personal information and all information regarding health issues....even not breathing. (that's a pretty big health issue!) The Remembering Michael magazine has both of these (the report and screen) pictured in it. My question is how did they obtain permission....by whom, where, when? Having this published like this is in clear violation of hipaa laws.
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Umpteenth fake photos.... :icon_e_ugeek:
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The bottles aren't empty. 7 out of 8 still have their caps on which mean they are full and unopened.
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In the trial of Murray showed empty bottles
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/10/05/1005-propofol-bottles-conrad1-murray.jpg)
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Just so it's all on one page, here is the original
(http://www.intmensorg.info/images/mjdb.jpg)
Many inconsistencies. Not even going to start mentioning them. Everything is slightly in the wrong position too. The latest photo that has been released is obviously a recreation of the original "death scene"
There are differences in the photos of the things that they had on the table
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5029/cuchillow.png)
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Yeah - there are definitely differences.....
That is one big freakin' knife to have casually laying about on a bedside table - what would be the purpose of that?! :suspect: .......
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In the trial of Murray showed empty bottles
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/10/05/1005-propofol-bottles-conrad1-murray.jpg)
They're not all empty. The bottles with the colored tops are still factory sealed and therefore full. The ones with the silver tops have had their factory seals removed.
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LOL...when all the bottles are lined up like that...I see musical notes...
*BTC, ready that merlot girl! I am still here!!! : )
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if that was same room MJ and murray were in giving CPR, no way items layed out like that, like i mean you need everything removed, and watch your surroundings for any danger, like i mean a bottle of oxygen? i think i saw in 1 of the photos, you knock that easy enough.... just saying.
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Yeah - there are definitely differences.....
That is one big freakin' knife to have casually laying about on a bedside table - what would be the purpose of that?! :suspect: .......
I connected it to the song, Blood on the Dance floor, which I think poetically means MJ's personal life, 'she' could be the hoax as in 'she' took you under ('died').
Susie's got your number
Susie ain't your friend
Look who took you under
She put seven inches in
Blood is on the dance floor
Blood is on the knife
Susie's got your number
Susie says its right
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/bloodonthedancefloor.html
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Yeah - there are definitely differences.....
That is one big freakin' knife to have casually laying about on a bedside table - what would be the purpose of that?! :suspect: .......
I connected it to the song, Blood on the Dance floor, which I think poetically means MJ's personal life, 'she' could be the hoax as in 'she' took you under ('died').
Susie's got your number
Susie ain't your friend
Look who took you under
She put seven inches in
Blood is on the dance floor
Blood is on the knife
Susie's got your number
Susie says its right
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/bloodonthedancefloor.html
That knife on the beside table and the one on MJ's Blood on the Dance Floor song could very well be hinting Paris' suicide attempt.
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(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/10/05/1005-propofol-bottles-conrad1-murray.jpg)
LOL...when all the bottles are lined up like that...I see musical notes...
*BTC, ready that merlot girl! I am still here!!! : )
In the upper pic all the bottles sums 13 = 2013 maybe?
In the bottom pic 37 :confused: anybody?
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In the upper pic all the bottles sums 13 = 2013 maybe?
In the bottom pic 37 :confused: anybody?
37 -> 7 - 3 = 4
4 years, 2013 ;D
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(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/10/05/1005-propofol-bottles-conrad1-murray.jpg)
LOL...when all the bottles are lined up like that...I see musical notes...
*BTC, ready that merlot girl! I am still here!!! : )
In the upper pic all the bottles sums 13 = 2013 maybe?
In the bottom pic 37 :confused: anybody?
Good one.....let me think on that for a bit : )
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In the upper pic all the bottles sums 13 = 2013 maybe?
In the bottom pic 37 :confused: anybody?
:LolLolLo
37 -> 7 - 3 = 4
4 years, 2013 ;D
:LolLolLolLol:
I noticed in the upper pic there are 3 groups of bottles, first one = "7", second one = "2" ?!?!?, third one = "4" :icon_e_wink: