Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on July 01, 2011, 10:49:07 PM
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I have installed a new feature for the website, Hoaxpedia: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... /index.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpedia/index.php)
I think this is a fantastic tool to get all the info organized. It's not operational yet because I have to check some stuff and edit some other things, but I would like to ask you all if you are willing to participate in adding the info to it. As you can imagine, LOTS of pages need to be made, this will be a special Death Hoax / MJ wikipedia where we can add whatever we want. Just like with the real wiki, users will be able to edit existing pages, or add new ones. If we team up, we could make a fantastic hoax archive outside this forum. This is already a huge archive, but since it's a discussion board, most of the info is not organized.
I would also like your thoughts on how we could do this the best way. One who will add all info related to one subject, or teams who will take care of a certain subject? Well you get what I mean, in other words: how will we get this archive filled?
Suggestions, opinions, help, articles, subjects to be added etc, all welcome. Brainstrom ahead!
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Very good idea Souza.. I will think about how we can arrange it and get back at you..
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I guess we could work in groups, so the all the TMZ stuff or whatever, one group can work on and then another group deals with CM stuff or something, I guess you could break it down even more if you want.
We could also have a timeline of events such as things that happened from June 25th-now so it's easier for us.
I think this hoaxpedia will be a great idea.
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Cool idea Souza.. :D
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It's hard to know where to start so I just grabbed 2 random topics.
Applied Pharmacy
According to the affidavit, during the search of Dr. Murray’s home and office, cops recovered a sales receipt from Applied Pharmacy. The receipt showed that on May 12, 2009, Dr. Murray purchased 4 100 ml vials of Propofol.
Copy of the search warrant and affidavit: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/112 ... ray_wm.pdf (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/1120_conrad_murray_wm.pdf)
According to Google here is the address for Applied Pharmacy:
Applied Pharmacy
2851 N Tenaya Way # 202
Las Vegas, NV 89128-0453
The search warrant lists Applied Pharmacy at:
Applied Pharmacy
6370 W. Flamingo Rd.
Suite 1 Las Vegas, NV
Photos of Applied Pharmacy physical location during search on 8/11/09
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Search Warrant
View here with affidavit: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/112 ... ray_wm.pdf (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/1120_conrad_murray_wm.pdf)
Search warrant issued 6/29/09 for 100 N. Carolwood Drive, including Dr. Murray's bags and belongings. This is when the Propofol was found. Initial visit by the coroner on 6/25/09 yielded no Propofol, yet the affidavit clearly states "the PROPOFOL (DIPRIVAN) that was recovered from 100 N. Carolwood Drive in Dr. Murray's doctor bag and on the bedside table..."
July 24, 2009, a search warrant was issued for Dr. Murray's home and Las Vegas office. The warrant lists Dr. Murray's Las Vegas clinic address as:
Conrad Murray, MD, Global Cardiovascular Assoc.
2110 East Flamingo Rd.
Suite number 201
Google search results list:
Conrad Murray, MD, Global Cardiovascular Assoc.
2110 E Flamingo Rd # 301
Las Vegas, NV 89119-5193
Ensuring that the correct address on the face of the search warrant is essential. The courts have consistently ruled searching an incorrect address will result in the exclusion of evidence. The receipt for Propofol from Murray's purchase was obtained during the search of the Las Vegas clinic on 7/24/09. That receipt prompted the 8/11/09 issuing and subsequent search of Applied Pharmacy.
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Cherilyn Lee
Nurse practitioner who spoke to investigators and who's statements were included in the affidavit. Cherilyn Lee is largely credited for introducing Propofol onto the scene.
Cherilyn Lee first spoke to Anderson Cooper on CNN june 30,2009.
Transcript: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/30/t ... interview/ (http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/30/transcript-of-cherilyn-lee-interview/)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWl8d7OlmZE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWl8d7OlmZE)
Cherilyn Lee also gave an interview to Larry King on his Live program on July 1st, 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFKiY10P1wI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFKiY10P1wI)
Lee's statements in the affidavit indicated that Cherilyn Lee had first met MJ in January 2009 when she examined all 3 children who were complaining of cold symptoms. She also examined MJ who was complaining of low energy level. She performed blood tests on MJ which came back with normal-low blood sugar prompting her to treat him with "a good food diet and a protein drink".
On Easter Sunday 2009, MJ called her and first inquired about Propofol. After researching the drug she states she refused to get it for him and this was the last time she "saw" MJ.
Then, on Father's Day 2009, Lee states that she received a call from one of MJ's security team, Faheem Muhammad, saying that MJ was sick. Lee stated she could hear MJ speaking in the background saying one side of his body was hot and one side was cold. She advised Muhammad to take MJ to the hospital, fearing he had a problem with his Central Nervous System.
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I think it would be best to work in groups. Take each of the cateogrories as defined in the forum and assign people to look through all the information gathered in the subtopic. Such pages will be devoted to people, the family, the lawyers, Conrad Murray, and the group assigned to that person will look through all the info on the forum and outside and compile a profile for that person. Same thing for all the other cateogories, the Illuminati theory, the Murder Conscpiracy, the Doubles Theory. I love your idea, and I think it will work just fine, once all information is gathered and entered. And than we can change it as we see fit as more information is uncovered.
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Just jump in.
Grab a topic and write everything you know about it.
Post it.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it can be edited as we go along.
We are all walking hoax encyclopedias, just start writing!
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Cool idea Souza! Let me put my thinking cap on and return. typing/
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Interesting idea as always......
I will definitely put my thinking cap on.
Thank you!
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9282 Days
9282 days is the numerical exact 1/2 way point of Michael's public "life". From and including his reported birth date on 8/29/1958, there were 9282 days until 1/27/1984, the date of the Pepsi commercial incident in which MJ's hair reportedly caught fire causing severe burning and scalp disfigurement.
1/27/1984 was the 9283rd day, or the 1st day in the second half of MJ's public life. Counting forward, with 1/27/1984 being day 1 (one), 6/25/2009 was again the 9282nd day. This effectively makes the date of the Pepsi commercial incident the exact halfway point of MJ's public life.
1. The Pepsi burn incident marked the beginning of Michael’s reported addiction to Demerol, as he himself stated in the mid-90′s when he sought treatment for the addiction.
2. This era between Thriller and Bad albums saw a rebirth of Michael Jackson… from the sweet little child star everyone watched grow up, to the newly light skinned, new nosed, BAD Michael with an attitude. He had a new hair-do, a new sound (Dirty Diana), a new look (tight black pants and chains, rock star garb), and a new angle… Michael began to promote himself in true Barnum flair… he kicked off the Greatest Show on Earth by becoming the ultimate showman Michael Jackson, enhancing the mystery surrounding his persona.
3. In the aftermath of the Pepsi burn incident, Michael purchased a hyperbaric chamber to donate to a children’s burn unit but prior to that donation he crawled inside and posed for a photograph. He secretly gave this photograph to a reporter, allegedly with the condition that the article that the reporter decided to run the pic with contain the word “bizarre”… and thus began Michael’s manipulative relationship with the media. Other stunts followed (elephant man bones purchase, Bubbles the chimp madness) but none ever really trumped the mystery of the famous O2 chamber pic. It has also been alleged that Michael's manager at the time, Frank Dileo, was the one who actually handled the photo transaction with the reporter in secret.
4. Footage of the Pepsi accident was purchased exclusively by Michael and he owned all copies in existence. He reportedly agreed never to air it even though he wanted to, as Pepsi was terrified it would result in severe negative PR against its product. In exchange for this agreement to never air the footage, Michael signed the largest commercial endorsement contract in history (Guinness Book of World Records). Shortly following 6-25-09, this footage surfaced mysteriously, with no one claiming credit for releasing it. Pepsi denied involvement and publicly denounced it's airing.
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Just a thought for down the road too...
A huge photo album. Lots of times I'm trying to find a certain pic...Like I looked everyplace for the pic of Omer wearing the Doo Doo hat. It could be cross referenced to articles it came from so if you can't remember the article but can the pic...
Just a thought. We have so many pics and it would be wonderful to have our own ultimate album :)
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Coca Cola
TMZ released an article on 4/5/2010 regarding the latest Murray defense being that Michael Jackson was so addicted to Coke that he drank it to excess even though he knew it kept him awake as a sign that MJ was so out of control as an addict that he killed himself, literally. http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-j ... addiction/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-defense-coca-cole-caffeine-addiction/)
One of the ways the defense will prove its point is with the famous soft drink. Jackson consumed massive quantities of Coca-Cola, knowing full well it was laden with caffeine and would make it next to impossible to fall asleep.
Our sources say the defense has numerous examples of situations where Jackson hyped himself up with caffeine from soda and then used drugs — including Propofol — as the ultimate sleeping solution.
Also on 4/5/2010 TMZ prints several Murray and his lawyer photographs featuring Coke product placement, so we start to notice a Coke connection. TMZ has since removed this media from their site http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/conrad-mu ... ch-photos/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/conrad-murray-ed-chernoff-lawyer-venice-beach-photos/)
But MJDHI has it archieved here: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 29,r:1,s:0 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/04/05/0405_conrad_murray_photo_launch.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D50%26t%3D9333&usg=__IRuGlqAQnxdE61ESH95xWUUW_wc=&h=565&w=550&sz=76&hl=en&start=0&sig2=R0fBX1dBgRphUD_J-kngdA&zoom=1&tbnid=gzpPtOg2NBoRoM:&tbnh=162&tbnw=161&ei=d0YPTp_LNe3DsQKnspiMCg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmurray%2Blawyer%2Bvenice%2Bbeach%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1195%26bih%3D656%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divnsb&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=364&vpy=88&dur=1452&hovh=228&hovw=221&tx=122&ty=100&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0)
The inventor of Coca Cola, John Pemberton, originally presented Coke as a cure for Morphine addiction.
Coca-Cola was originally advertised as a cure for morphine and opium addictions among a multitude of other health benefits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pemberton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pemberton)
Morphine and Demerol are essentially the same drug, with Demerol simply being the modern (and ironically more harmful) version of the drug. Michael did at one time state that he was seeking treatment for Demerol addiction resulting from the Pepsi commercial accident which caused the severe burns to his scalp.
The Happiness Machine Coke commercial featuring an actor wearing a Michael Jackson TII jacket, sunflowers produced by the Coke machine, a white rabbit image on a student's bag, and MAP estate planning T-shirt, was released as a viral advertisement on 1-12-2010, and aired on TV during the American Idol episode upon which Janet Jackson performed in May of 2010.
Coke Happiness Machine commercial: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqT_dPApj9U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqT_dPApj9U)
The Coke-MJ corporate connection is verified 100% by the admission of the MJ TII jacket clearly featured as product placement within the ad. All other unrelated products and corporate logos were fuzzed out of the commercial.
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Great idea!! Sometime I'll be reading an article and I'll have no idea what people are talking about so now I can just go look it up. Woo! party/
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I lIke this very much Souza !!!The hoax is more complete...as it should be, because it is no longer a site about the death hoax of Michael Jackson but THE SITE of the Michael's hoax death...the only one !! I'm here for all you need..and thanks for all... michael-jackson/ bearhug
moonwalk_/
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This is a great idea....maybe in future there can be a post where people can request information on a certain subject just in case we miss anything.....although we probably wont lol
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I'm going to start posting some pictures, I have Dengue fever and I can not stay long at the computer, the light bothers me
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Austin Brown " BAM "
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Hálima, "Michael Lives"
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Murray at the preliminary hearing
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costumes of the trial of 2005 and the views of Murray
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Are we posting things here or is this just for our ideas? Great idea btw Souza. I'll be here for whatever help is needed.
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I think I should assign a number of writers who have some knowledge on editing Wiki pages, and we should make teams to gather info/write. I have added a list of main categories, and I think these (+ additional MAIN categories if anyone can think of some) shouls also be the team names. So Team "Medical" will gather all the info on that (Autopsy report, Propofol, etc. and post it in the subforum "Submit articles" that I created on the board.
I also created a category in it called Team Discussions, and I can give the specific team access to it so that they have a discussion board where others can't post.
I am going to make standard pages to use for different kinds of subjects, so it will be pretty easy to submit articles.
Sound like an idea?
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I don't know if I am capable of being much of a help Souza as I am not very computer savvy, but in what ever capacity I am able to, I am here.
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I think the Hoaxpedia is a brilliant idea Souza! bearhug Great job in starting it up!
It will be great to have as a reference for both new people coming to the hoax as well long time believers.
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http://deathhoax.wikia.com/wiki/Michael ... abase_Wiki (http://deathhoax.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Jackson_Death_Hoax_Database_Wiki)
I started a death hoax wiki 2 years ago. I couldn't get much help in finding information (and I was also in school). :(
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This is such a great idea Souza! bearhug
I hope that i will be helpful! :)
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As expected, a good idea, Souza :) . You have my support.
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Ok, so let's team up here! Who wants to join and what subject would you like to help with?
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I really love this, and i really want to cooperate... but like english is not my language is hard for me to write all i know or think, but if you need help on something count with me, i´ll do my best! beerchug
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It's not a problem if English isn't your first language, it isn't mine either. Just by sharing information with the team, you can do a lot already. We would need one native english speaker to check the articles before added to hoaxpedia. So I can ad you to the list CC? What is the category you know most about? The categories are listed on the main page: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... =Main_Page (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page)
More categories can be added if needed, but I think most can be put under these in subcategories.
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It's not a problem if English isn't your first language, it isn't mine either. Just by sharing information with the team, you can do a lot already. We would need one native english speaker to check the articles before added to hoaxpedia. So I can ad you to the list CC? What is the category you know most about? The categories are listed on the main page: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... =Main_Page (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page)
More categories can be added if needed, but I think most can be put under these in subcategories.
Thanks Souza, maybe general Hoax info or this is it, because i watch and analise this movie everytime i can... or sightings like dave dave, or the horror night at universal. greenman... I´ll do my best! just count on me and then tell me how to do it lolol/
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Souza I can write about the movie refrences like When in Rome, Megamind, Tangled, Rio... etc :)
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Who's gonna validate the data in it?
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If you want I can do the Conrad Murray Court case, I don't really mind.
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I'm in the team: [glow=red:17hqsa1v]Persons of Interest[/glow:17hqsa1v]. :D
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Who's gonna validate the data in it?
We all will. If someone disagrees, just like real wiki, submit a correction.
Opinion can be left out of it. See my posts above, just info.
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Maybe I should open it to everyone to edit and submit. It will save me a lot of time and it will grow faster I think. What do you think?
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Maybe I should open it to everyone to edit and submit. It will save me a lot of time and it will grow faster I think. What do you think?
I think that would be like wikipedia... but a lot of haters will submit BS... i think you should open for all of us... just a thought, or is harder than everyone?
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Congrats!!! Very cool ideia, Souza!! beerchug
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Maybe I should open it to everyone to edit and submit. It will save me a lot of time and it will grow faster I think. What do you think?
Yes, this.
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CC wrote:
I really love this, and i really want to cooperate... but like english is not my language is hard for me to write all i know or think, but if you need help on something count with me, i´ll do my best!
CC do not worry I have a 2 years screwing up :lol:
as one is going away to organize this, perhaps making a survey it enters the members to see that subject of hoax to know but?
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Hey Souza. I like this idea. I think the below has gotten lost in the translation. Another DOT gone missing. Credit to the posters though that thought it was a real clue back then.
I noticed that the last link that speaks about the patients' (so-called Murray supporters) testimonials initially found on Ed Chernoff's (Murray's first attorney - for acting purposes) website are gone. At least, I can't seem to find them now.
http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/About ... rnoff.aspx (http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/About-the-Firm/Edward-Chernoff.aspx)
Great stuff! See, this is what I'm talkin' 'bout. MJ wants us to bust Murray out of the water. Prove how he represents MJ. I read part of an article that mentioned that they negotiated Murray turning himself in, because they want for their clients to have some form of dignity. Yet, did they offer MJ the same? No. They handcuffed him and showed it to the world. May haps this point is strictly for symbolism, because Murray was treated fairly in this aspect and MJ wasn't. He turned himself in, but was handcuffed - and that mug shot. Poor baby. It sort of doesn't look like MJ did in May 2009. Some on Bonnie's blog think that he was electro shocked before the pic was taken, so I don't know about that one for sure. Murray's bogus hearing related things mirror MJ's, because that is the way MJ scripted it. There is a message to his madness.
Again, the discrepancies surrounding this character are almost too many to count. I still laugh out loud at the pics of that woman being with Blanket and them in Hawaii on 6-25-10 - supposedly - and the same woman being with Murray on the beach (didn't look like a beach and etc) - and I laugh at other clues. MJ must have run out of actresses for those SHOTS. And he mentions Doc Murray in Moonwalker video. I mean really.
I don't believe Murray helped to kill MJ. I don't believe there was ever meant to be any concerts. I think the O2 presser was staged. The fake funeral was staged. I don't think MJ and his children ever lived in that house. I know it was not MJ's body in the ambulance. And on and on.
And let's not forget, MJ is the MASTER of disguises, for real. He is truly a treasured piece of art himself - and is proving it more and more each day. I've always been of the mind that MJ is proving that the Game is Over as it pertains to how they shunned and ridiculed him. Said he'd lost it - and would never be relevant any longer after his acquittal. How they lied about his album Invincible by before it was even out declaring it a failure. How they were quick to write him off before and after the trial. He has proved and is proving how much of a money-maker his name still is - and always will be. They tried to destroy his name. They tried to destroy his worth. They tried to dehumanize him. They lied on him, tried him for a crime that he didn't commit, and wanted to send him to the slammer as they threw away the key. They were happily clapping with glee as they (the filthy media - if the shoe fits) showed video of the small jail cell MJ would live in for the rest of his life if convicted. Again, he has a long list. He has a forgiving heart, but like all humans, he can be hurt real bad, and he was. He CAN"T forget it.
"He's so good, but they can't see why. He's in a zone. Thirteen feet high. Wanna start something, but they looking sloppy. I'm all over the place boy. You can't stop me!" mj_bad/
P.S. - And.......,I still love the Maya Angelou poem.
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t763-oh-com ... -s-website (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t763-oh-come-on-just-look-at-dr-murray-s-lawyer-s-website)
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Very cool idea!
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To remember.. this idea to continue forward?
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To remember.. this idea to continue forward?
If people are willing to help, then it is. Til now not many really signed up to fill the pages.
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To remember.. this idea to continue forward?
If people are willing to help, then it is. Til now not many really signed up to fill the pages.
Well, anyway you can count on me