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Billboard Awards Preview
Michael Jackson Imagery Is "As If He's Still Alive"
May 17, 2014 by Robin Leach.
(http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2014/01/15/Jackson-Estate_Gasp_t653.jpg?214bc4f9d9bd7c08c7d0f6599bb3328710e01e7b)
A “real-life” Michael Jackson will appear halfway through the 2014 Billboard Music Awards on Sunday at MGM Grand Garden Arena despite last-minute lawsuits and court filings to block the spectacle.
“It’s as if he’s still alive. He’s totally real. It’s absolutely uncanny. People who have seen just a little of it have become so emotional, they have tears running down their face. They are sobbing because it’s as if he didn’t die,” I was told.
Late Friday, federal judge Kent Dawson ruled here that there wasn’t sufficient evidence to prove that patents on previous hologram 3D images held by two companies and an individual had been violated.
The emergency lawsuit had been filed against the King of Pop’s estate and its trustees John Branca and Howard Weitzman by Hologram USA Inc., Musion Das Hologram Ltd and businessman Alki David, who says that he control rights to hologram technology.
A veil of secrecy has been lowered over the Billboard extravaganza. The only official word from ABC and Dick Clark Productions is that “it will be a history-making performance.” My original story about the imagery was posted at Vegas DeLuxe on Tuesday when Michael’s new album “Xscape” was released.
But I learned exclusively Friday night that Michael’s image to be unveiled about halfway in the three-hour ABC telecast is brand new technology.
“It was two years in development and took an additional six months to create for this network premiere,” I was told. “This is way, way beyond a hologram. It is way, way beyond what you know as 3D. This isn’t even digital. It is far more advanced and a totally new process.”
“This lawsuit to attempt to stop the broadcast was just a stunt. It was ludicrous,” snapped L.A. attorney Howard Weitzman, who represented Michael’s estate and Dick Clark Productions, who is staging the BBMAs for ABC. “The court’s decision is not surprising.”
I also exclusively learned that Michael will be seen dancing with a cast of dancers. He will be seen moonwalking back and forth the entire MGM Grand Garden Arena stage. He also will be seen dancing up and down stairs.
“This is the most emotional piece of television we have ever produced in our 40-year TV careers,” two Dick Clark Productions execs told me. “A few people have seen it, a tiny portion of it, already in the arena and have been crying — it’s that powerful. Incredibly, it plays even better on the TV screen, so imagine how viewers will react at home.
“They will be in a state of disbelief. It’s as if he’s still alive at the height of his career.”
I learned that Michael’s estate trustees came across undiscovered L.A. Reid recorded footage of Michael that they didn’t know existed. The lawsuit says the music will be a new song, “Slave to the Rhythm.”
“They didn’t know what they originally wanted to do with it or make with it except just wanting to capture him alive forever. That became the background format for this new technology. It might have gone to Cirque du Soleil. They might have found a way to complete the This Is It tour.
“This has never been done before. It is 100 steps beyond anything anybody has ever thought you’d experienced as a hologram. It is so real, it is so lifelike, there is no way an audience would know the artist is not there in front of them. So real an artist would actually never have to go out on tour again or need makeup for an appearance. The artist is there without being there. You cannot tell the difference.
“That will be proven Sunday night with Michael Jackson, just like he’s done before time and time again as a pioneer with music-technology breakthroughs.”
A few key major city radio DJs were given a 30-second sneak preview of the spectacle after signing secrecy agreements. Under strict promises of remaining anonymous, I was told: “Within 10 seconds, I was shaking. Then I started sobbing. Michael was alive. I had goose bumps. He was as real as the day I last saw him alive.
“I cannot tell you what he does, but his fans from this point on will never believe that he died. It will be four minutes they will remember forever.”
No plans for its future use have yet been revealed, but I am told that plans will be forthcoming and will be expanded to include other song material later.
Meantime, another lawsuit has yet to be determined. Cirque and MGM Resorts International have until next Friday to answer a case in Los Angeles Federal Court filed by Hologram USA claiming unlicensed use of the digital rendition used in Cirque’s “Michael Jackson One” at Mandalay Bay.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/17/billboard-awards-preview-michael-jackson-imagery-i/ (http://www.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/17/billboard-awards-preview-michael-jackson-imagery-i/)
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“That will be proven Sunday night with Michael Jackson, just like he’s done before time and time again as a pioneer with music-technology breakthroughs.”
Huh??? So, he's STILL making technical breakthroughs?????? Just like he's done before..... before what? Before he died????
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O.. M.. G!! What if it is a mixture of both, MJ "real" and hologram.
"This is not digital. It is much more advanced and a whole new process"??? If not digital ... MJ is revealed!
Thanks RK. :woohoo2:
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Let's start with a definition of a hologram.
[quoteHolography is a photographic technique that records the light scattered from an object, and then presents it in a way that appears three-dimensional.][/quote]
In other words, you have to begin with a 3 dimensional object. A piece of film would not work, although they can certainly create 3D DIGITAL representations, but that would not be a true hologram, at least according to this definition. I have always presumed that Tupac hologram was created from Tupac performing live in a different location. IF MJ appears as a hologram, by definition the real MJ would be performing somewhere else simultaneously. Interesting that they brought up the stairs as that might be technically difficult to achieve via a hologram. I am no expert, but it would seem difficult to get the positioning quite right.
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This is to much. Sounds like we will not be able to tell if it's him or not. So ... Either we the fans are expected to believe the tech is real... It could be MJ But now what do we do?
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It 's just a great show and Michael certainly look at this...
Personally I do not like the hologram but I'm waiting for watching....it's a great adventure..... :icon_e_ugeek: :icon_cool:
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hologram is not enough 4 me! :Pulling_hair: but i don't think there will be a bam or something similar:5 years r so many!
so hopeless......
*LUNA*
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don't really know where to go with the discussion. ummm noticed first off this performer pit bull who was in the opening number. remember something about murray and pitbull like energy drink way early on. also this one performance i just saw had very black and white costume theme. oh and it looks like the hologram is from dirty diana (or at least that is the little tease they keep using.
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did you guys watch the performance. That IS NOT MICHAEL. THAT'S A FUCKING IMPERSONATOR! I mean probably the impersonator is performing live and the holographic image is on stage. This is truly disappointing.
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Just watched it (2.24am here lol!)
Well......it might have been the fact that I watched it on my computer on iLive, but it looked nothing like Michael Jackson to me. :computer-losy-smiley:
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Just watched it (2.24am here lol!)
Well......it might have been the fact that I watched it on my computer on iLive, but it looked nothing like Michael Jackson to me. :computer-losy-smiley:
because it WASN'T michael.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn9grbkCMAAMt_y.jpg)
Wasn't able to watch it. But is this the 'image'?
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As I was watching I was trying to think which one of the impersonators it could be! :Pulling_hair:
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Yeah, that definitely wasn't Michael, lol.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn9grbkCMAAMt_y.jpg)
Wasn't able to watch it. But is this the 'image'?
yes that's it RK. That's the frickin hologram we were waiting for. And that's probably e-casanova.
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I'm gonna not worry about looking stupid here, but the first person I thought of when I saw this was Corey Feldman. There, I said it. Something about the shape of the face around the lower area.
Prolly change my mind after I watch the whole thing tho.
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Well I stayed up very late to watch it so I do feel justified in voicing my opinion about the hologram - on twitter they are getting pissed that we are 'complaining'.
Sorry, but if I had paid for that I'd be asking for a refund due to false advertising.
Yep, could it be ECasanova or Navi? Looks more like them than MJ! :icon_lol:
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I found that performance kinda awkward....and as I said on the other thread, why would they bother making a hologram of an impersonator? I don't think it was a hologram at all.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3AVw7TWgE[/youtube]
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SNAP!
Whoever this bloke is, his legs look shorter and his bum looks bigger.... :icon_geek:
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Even impersonators are tweeting this is an impersonator.
carlo riley @carloriley 24m
THE REAL MICHAEL JACKSON ONLY SAT FOR 1 HOLOGRAM SESSION IN 1989! BILLBOARD WAS AN IMPERSONATOR!
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https://www.facebook.com/ChristopherGaspar.official/photos_all
I don't think it was Christopher Gaspar. His jaw looks different.
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i'm pissed off at people saying BBMAs hologram was great. What I find shocking is, Tupac's hologram was quite good, elvis's was amazing, but what happened when it came to Michael? Why would they present an impersonator? I'm starting to have second thoughts about the xscape album. The real question, what was Michael's involvement in both the album and the bbma's performance.
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The hologram Michael now has his own twitter account :icon_lol:
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do you suppose we got a better view than the actual audience because they seemed to buy it :icon_e_confused:
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I watched on TV and it really looked as Michael's hologram not impersonator. It was incredible, amazing and song just as great as Michael. After that performance there is no one and nothing else to watch .
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hologram is not enough 4 me! :Pulling_hair: but i don't think there will be a bam or something similar:5 years r so many!
so hopeless......
*LUNA*
Don't be upset dear Luna :( ......cause piece by piece ( "5 years r so many")......M.J. will be aaaa :icon_redface:.....upss I forgot the final word lol :icon_redface: :icon_pale: .Never mind :errrr: .
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do you suppose we got a better view than the actual audience because they seemed to buy it :icon_e_confused:
This is a very interesting question...it did seem like they were speechless or more excited than you think they should be.
What I don't understand is how Tupac's hologram looked so much better than MJ's if this was such an improvement on this type of technology. Tupac's hologram was 2 years ago and this is the improvement they made, really? Putting MJ's name next to this 'new technology' and letting him introduce it, is a cop out. They really think MJ would be pleased with this even though he is a perfectionist? MJ comes second to no one but this time he did. It lowers MJ standards in my mind and ruins his image.
The weird thing I find with this hologram is the head, it seems too big for the body, like the holographic head is attached to a real body. The reason why I said the body could be real is that at the 0:40 mark in the video the dancer next to the throne 'bumps' MJ and he reacts to it by moving, they kind of touch, he doesn't go through her. It could be something or nothing, I only looked into it because MJ's official twitter account had a pic of MJ on the throne with the caption 'Did you see it?'.
However the only thing I got out of this was that Tupac's hologram must be him really performing.
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I watched on TV and it really looked as Michael's hologram not impersonator. It was incredible, amazing and song just as great as Michael. After that performance there is no one and nothing else to watch .
You're kidding right?
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This is a very interesting question...it did seem like they were speechless or more excited than you think they should be.
What I don't understand is how Tupac's hologram looked so much better than MJ's if this was such an improvement on this type of technology. Tupac's hologram was 2 years ago and this is the improvement they made, really? Putting MJ's name next to this 'new technology' and letting him introduce it, is a cop out. They really think MJ would be pleased with this even though he is a perfectionist? MJ comes second to no one but this time he did. It lowers MJ standards in my mind and ruins his image.
The weird thing I find with this hologram is the head, it seems too big for the body, like the holographic head is attached to a real body. The reason why I said the body could be real is that at the 0:40 mark in the video the dancer next to the throne 'bumps' MJ and he reacts to it by moving, they kind of touch, he doesn't go through her. It could be something or nothing, I only looked into it because MJ's official twitter account had a pic of MJ on the throne with the caption 'Did you see it?'.
However the only thing I got out of this was that Tupac's hologram must be him really performing.
This quote was on my twitter feed earlier tonight.
@DJDENSE I don't think anyone will outdue the Tupac hologram performance, you would of think that since it's MJ they would of topped Pac's
- DJ Stats (https://twitter.com/DJ_STATS/status/468250568658403328)
2Pac's "hologram" used an updated version of the "Pepper's Ghost" technology, which is fairly old (i.e. late 1800's).
(http://www.hiphopstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Snoop-Dogg-Tupac-Coachella.jpg)
(http://cdn.thewire.com/img/upload/2012/04/17/Pacedit/large.jpg)
From what I recall, there was someone that made the movements beforehand that allowed them to have him interact with Snoop as well as be in sync with the performance. Pac actually addressed the crowd, which was either done through audio manipulation or a vocal impersonator. There is a rapper that was also signed to Death Row Records known as "The Realest," who is known as a 2Pac imitator and has done some vocal fill-ins for 2Pac's posthumous releases in the past. His voice has been manipulated with in the past, so I'm not quite sure which route they took in that regard.
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Thanks @Billie
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hologram is not enough 4 me! :Pulling_hair: but i don't think there will be a bam or something similar:5 years r so many!
so hopeless......
*LUNA*
Don't be upset dear Luna :( ......cause piece by piece ( "5 years r so many")......M.J. will be aaaa :icon_redface:.....upss I forgot the final word lol :icon_redface: :icon_pale: .Never mind :errrr: .
:suspect: maybe,i was right. unfortunately :icon_e_sad:
*LUNA*
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I watched on TV and it really looked as Michael's hologram not impersonator. It was incredible, amazing and song just as great as Michael. After that performance there is no one and nothing else to watch .
You're kidding right?
Must be! If you dont see this is not Michael?
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Randy's children react.
I am beyond disappointed with that hologram performance! It wasn't even my uncle...please leave his legacy as perfect as he left it.
- Randy Jackson Jr (https://twitter.com/randyjacksonjr/status/468268358333243393)
That impersonator tho? Like why? So disappointed.
- Genevieve Jackson (https://twitter.com/GenJaxn/status/468252442027503616)
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I watched on TV and it really looked as Michael's hologram not impersonator. It was incredible, amazing and song just as great as Michael. After that performance there is no one and nothing else to watch .
:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Wonder if anyone in the family or a close friend will actually acknowledge it was an entirely different bloke!? :suspect:
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Randy's children react.
I am beyond disappointed with that hologram performance! It wasn't even my uncle...please leave his legacy as perfect as he left it.
- Randy Jackson Jr (https://twitter.com/randyjacksonjr/status/468268358333243393)
That impersonator tho? Like why? So disappointed.
- Genevieve Jackson (https://twitter.com/GenJaxn/status/468252442027503616)
Thanks!!!! (I have only just crawled out of bed :icon_redface: )
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It's too obvious. We really don't need any confirmation from the family. I don't care if some people really enjoyed the performance. Truth is that guy on the stage was an imp. and that wasn't a hologram. He did moves that weren't ever danced by Michael. I don't know why the audience gave a standing ovation but I'm sure most of them thought 'what the f' the moment they saw the guy.
It's not any historic tv event, it was an utter failure.
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/17/billboard-awards-preview-michael-jackson-imagery-i/ (http://www.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/17/billboard-awards-preview-michael-jackson-imagery-i/)
Billboard Awards Preview
Michael Jackson Imagery Is "As If He's Still Alive"
May 17, 2014 by Robin Leach.
(http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2014/01/15/Jackson-Estate_Gasp_t653.jpg?214bc4f9d9bd7c08c7d0f6599bb3328710e01e7b)
A “real-life” Michael Jackson will appear halfway through the 2014 Billboard Music Awards on Sunday at MGM Grand Garden Arena despite last-minute lawsuits and court filings to block the spectacle.
“It’s as if he’s still alive. He’s totally real. It’s absolutely uncanny. People who have seen just a little of it have become so emotional, they have tears running down their face. They are sobbing because it’s as if he didn’t die,” I was told.
Late Friday, federal judge Kent Dawson ruled here that there wasn’t sufficient evidence to prove that patents on previous hologram 3D images held by two companies and an individual had been violated.
The emergency lawsuit had been filed against the King of Pop’s estate and its trustees John Branca and Howard Weitzman by Hologram USA Inc., Musion Das Hologram Ltd and businessman Alki David, who says that he control rights to hologram technology.
A veil of secrecy has been lowered over the Billboard extravaganza. The only official word from ABC and Dick Clark Productions is that “it will be a history-making performance.” My original story about the imagery was posted at Vegas DeLuxe on Tuesday when Michael’s new album “Xscape” was released.
But I learned exclusively Friday night that Michael’s image to be unveiled about halfway in the three-hour ABC telecast is brand new technology.
“It was two years in development and took an additional six months to create for this network premiere,” I was told. “This is way, way beyond a hologram. It is way, way beyond what you know as 3D. This isn’t even digital. It is far more advanced and a totally new process.”
“This lawsuit to attempt to stop the broadcast was just a stunt. It was ludicrous,” snapped L.A. attorney Howard Weitzman, who represented Michael’s estate and Dick Clark Productions, who is staging the BBMAs for ABC. “The court’s decision is not surprising.”
I also exclusively learned that Michael will be seen dancing with a cast of dancers. He will be seen moonwalking back and forth the entire MGM Grand Garden Arena stage. He also will be seen dancing up and down stairs.
“This is the most emotional piece of television we have ever produced in our 40-year TV careers,” two Dick Clark Productions execs told me. “A few people have seen it, a tiny portion of it, already in the arena and have been crying — it’s that powerful. Incredibly, it plays even better on the TV screen, so imagine how viewers will react at home.
“They will be in a state of disbelief. It’s as if he’s still alive at the height of his career.”
I learned that Michael’s estate trustees came across undiscovered L.A. Reid recorded footage of Michael that they didn’t know existed. The lawsuit says the music will be a new song, “Slave to the Rhythm.”
“They didn’t know what they originally wanted to do with it or make with it except just wanting to capture him alive forever. That became the background format for this new technology. It might have gone to Cirque du Soleil. They might have found a way to complete the This Is It tour.
“This has never been done before. It is 100 steps beyond anything anybody has ever thought you’d experienced as a hologram. It is so real, it is so lifelike, there is no way an audience would know the artist is not there in front of them. So real an artist would actually never have to go out on tour again or need makeup for an appearance. The artist is there without being there. You cannot tell the difference.
“That will be proven Sunday night with Michael Jackson, just like he’s done before time and time again as a pioneer with music-technology breakthroughs.”
A few key major city radio DJs were given a 30-second sneak preview of the spectacle after signing secrecy agreements. Under strict promises of remaining anonymous, I was told: “Within 10 seconds, I was shaking. Then I started sobbing. Michael was alive. I had goose bumps. He was as real as the day I last saw him alive.
“I cannot tell you what he does, but his fans from this point on will never believe that he died. It will be four minutes they will remember forever.”
No plans for its future use have yet been revealed, but I am told that plans will be forthcoming and will be expanded to include other song material later.
Meantime, another lawsuit has yet to be determined. Cirque and MGM Resorts International have until next Friday to answer a case in Los Angeles Federal Court filed by Hologram USA claiming unlicensed use of the digital rendition used in Cirque’s “Michael Jackson One” at Mandalay Bay.
If you reread the article again after the awards, it's looks like they were talking about a whole different event now!. LOL
It was def. NOT beyond anything anybody has ever thought you’d experienced as a hologram.
At least i had been expecting an holographic MJ, not an impersonator.
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/17/billboard-awards-preview-michael-jackson-imagery-i/ (http://www.lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2014/may/17/billboard-awards-preview-michael-jackson-imagery-i/)
Billboard Awards Preview
Michael Jackson Imagery Is "As If He's Still Alive"
May 17, 2014 by Robin Leach.
(http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2014/01/15/Jackson-Estate_Gasp_t653.jpg?214bc4f9d9bd7c08c7d0f6599bb3328710e01e7b)
A “real-life” Michael Jackson will appear halfway through the 2014 Billboard Music Awards on Sunday at MGM Grand Garden Arena despite last-minute lawsuits and court filings to block the spectacle.
“It’s as if he’s still alive. He’s totally real. It’s absolutely uncanny. People who have seen just a little of it have become so emotional, they have tears running down their face. They are sobbing because it’s as if he didn’t die,” I was told.
Late Friday, federal judge Kent Dawson ruled here that there wasn’t sufficient evidence to prove that patents on previous hologram 3D images held by two companies and an individual had been violated.
The emergency lawsuit had been filed against the King of Pop’s estate and its trustees John Branca and Howard Weitzman by Hologram USA Inc., Musion Das Hologram Ltd and businessman Alki David, who says that he control rights to hologram technology.
A veil of secrecy has been lowered over the Billboard extravaganza. The only official word from ABC and Dick Clark Productions is that “it will be a history-making performance.” My original story about the imagery was posted at Vegas DeLuxe on Tuesday when Michael’s new album “Xscape” was released.
But I learned exclusively Friday night that Michael’s image to be unveiled about halfway in the three-hour ABC telecast is brand new technology.
“It was two years in development and took an additional six months to create for this network premiere,” I was told. “This is way, way beyond a hologram. It is way, way beyond what you know as 3D. This isn’t even digital. It is far more advanced and a totally new process.”
“This lawsuit to attempt to stop the broadcast was just a stunt. It was ludicrous,” snapped L.A. attorney Howard Weitzman, who represented Michael’s estate and Dick Clark Productions, who is staging the BBMAs for ABC. “The court’s decision is not surprising.”
I also exclusively learned that Michael will be seen dancing with a cast of dancers. He will be seen moonwalking back and forth the entire MGM Grand Garden Arena stage. He also will be seen dancing up and down stairs.
“This is the most emotional piece of television we have ever produced in our 40-year TV careers,” two Dick Clark Productions execs told me. “A few people have seen it, a tiny portion of it, already in the arena and have been crying — it’s that powerful. Incredibly, it plays even better on the TV screen, so imagine how viewers will react at home.
“They will be in a state of disbelief. It’s as if he’s still alive at the height of his career.”
I learned that Michael’s estate trustees came across undiscovered L.A. Reid recorded footage of Michael that they didn’t know existed. The lawsuit says the music will be a new song, “Slave to the Rhythm.”
“They didn’t know what they originally wanted to do with it or make with it except just wanting to capture him alive forever. That became the background format for this new technology. It might have gone to Cirque du Soleil. They might have found a way to complete the This Is It tour.
“This has never been done before. It is 100 steps beyond anything anybody has ever thought you’d experienced as a hologram. It is so real, it is so lifelike, there is no way an audience would know the artist is not there in front of them. So real an artist would actually never have to go out on tour again or need makeup for an appearance. The artist is there without being there. You cannot tell the difference.
“That will be proven Sunday night with Michael Jackson, just like he’s done before time and time again as a pioneer with music-technology breakthroughs.”
A few key major city radio DJs were given a 30-second sneak preview of the spectacle after signing secrecy agreements. Under strict promises of remaining anonymous, I was told: “Within 10 seconds, I was shaking. Then I started sobbing. Michael was alive. I had goose bumps. He was as real as the day I last saw him alive.
“I cannot tell you what he does, but his fans from this point on will never believe that he died. It will be four minutes they will remember forever.”
No plans for its future use have yet been revealed, but I am told that plans will be forthcoming and will be expanded to include other song material later.
Meantime, another lawsuit has yet to be determined. Cirque and MGM Resorts International have until next Friday to answer a case in Los Angeles Federal Court filed by Hologram USA claiming unlicensed use of the digital rendition used in Cirque’s “Michael Jackson One” at Mandalay Bay.
If you reread the article again after the awards, it's looks like they were talking about a whole different event now!. LOL
It was def. NOT beyond anything anybody has ever thought you’d experienced as a hologram.
At least i had been expecting an holographic MJ, not an impersonator.
They will be in a state of disbelief. quote
Wel here they are right,they did leave us in a state of disbelief ???
But i wonder what are they thinking?
Did they really think we would fall for this?? how ignorant are they ?
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Hi Everyone, it's been awhile. Just wanted to add my two cents worth. I was disappointed in the hologram performance, don't get me wrong it was great to watch but to me looked like an impersonater. My husband and I first thought "Michael" looked different because it was a hologram, but Tupac didn't look different. Just makes your head spin...
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Christopher Gaspar (Facebook)
Now that I am no longer under confidentiality agreement: first Xscape album presenting the hologram of Michael being not ready I was called to do an extract from my show. I knew nothing before the day J because it was confidential even for us. What I appreciated it is to hear, just before my coming, CEO Sony say: the hologram being not ready there was not better to embody that Christopher Michael. Yes I admit that would my grey
Christopher Gaspar (Facebook)
Maintenant que je ne suis plus sous contrat de confidentialité : lors de la première présentation de l'album Xscape l'hologramme de Michael n'étant pas prêt j'ai été appelé pour faire un extrait de mon show. Je ne savais rien avant le jour J car cela était confidentiel même pour nous. Ce que j'ai apprécié c'est d'entendre, juste avant mon entree, le pdg Sony dire : l'hologramme n'étant pas prêt il n'y avait pas mieux pour incarner Michael que Christopher. Oui j'avoue que cela ma grisé
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When MJ performs, his dancing is different, he expresses the song with strong emotions that pulls into loving the song. the way that this hologram danced was not MJ, it appeared like a average dancer aka impersonator who always dances differently to MJ. you can always tell by key signature moves and behaviours which you can always see in MJ when he is on stage.
but instead worrying about the hologram, i like know more about the background. is there clues in the way it was designed? i mean there always going to be small tricks and illusions shown in plain sight but you never see it the first time.
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I am really happy after seeing the hologram,because the world has had another confirmation that Michael Jackson is only one and only he will decide when to get back on stage. :icon_razz: :moonwalk_:
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is it possible this was the one who really died that day? sorry i know it is crazy but the noticing of asian eyes. and some of these poses make me think of some of tii and the pics in the disc. set
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and now? what will happen? should we stop believing in a comeback? everytime we wait 4 the "miracle",we :Pulling_hair:
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*LUNA*
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My dearest Luna,I think after 5 years that the most important thing is to continue to be united here: I never thought that the Bam is the most important thing.
Michael has to do the best thing for himself, but having the chance to talk with friends who have the same feelings is a precious thing.
Continue this great adventure without many questions: I never have had and never will have no doubt that he is alive,and if he will return will be a great joy but is also a great joy to be here to talk about him with you all.
Keep the faith and smile !!! :icon_razz:
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I said in the other thread that I did not like. Someone saw the family? executors, friends .... anyone? I do not!
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I said in the other thread that I did not like. Someone saw the family? executors, friends .... anyone? I do not!
you saying there was nobody apart of the jackson estate or family were even there that night for a "history" making event.? then that is quite quite true unless someone say someone in the crowd
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Jackie was in attendance.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn88M3DCYAAZrZW.jpg)
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Epic Records chairman L.A. Reid said the BBMA premiere of Michael Jackson's "Slave to Rhythm" did not necessarily mean it would be the follow-up single to "Love Never Felt So Good." "It's certainly one of the songs (being considered)," Reid said, noting they would be studying feedback from Sunday's performance. "We pick the first single; fans pick the second."
Jackie Jackson started to tear up as he recalled watching "Slave to Rhythm" in the audience at the MGM Grand Arena. "When he started walking and dancing, I was teary-eyed," he said as he hugged the choreographers Rich and Tone Talauega. "It's hard to please Michael's fans and Michael... I'm telling you it's amazing."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/bbma-2014/6092076/backstage-moments-billboard-music-awards
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I liked it. Looked like MJ to me.
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It couldn't have been him because the lip synching would have had to have been done by him and he hadn't performed that song before had he?
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what if this is Michael's way to go back on stage? what if this is his plane for the future...
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Janet Jackson pays tribute to holographic Michael
Janet Jackson has paid tribute to her late brother Michael after he appeared via hologram at the Billboard Music Awards last night (18.05.14).
Janet Jackson has paid tribute to her late brother Michael after he appeared via hologram at the Billboard Music Awards last night (18.05.14).
The 'All For You' singer was impressed by the way technology made Michael - who died of acute Propofol intoxication in June 2009 - so convincing as he performed to 'Slave to Rhythm' at last night's (18.05.14) Billboard Music Awards.
She wrote on Twitter: ''My brother, Michael, was, is and always will be a genius. I love you, Mike. Janet.''
It was originally rumoured Janet was set to join the hologram version of her brother on stage for the performance of the song - which Michael originally recorded with L.A. Reid and Babyface during sessions for his 'Dangerous' album in 1991, but which has only just been released on the posthumous 'XSCAPE' record - but she wasn't able.
Another tweet, posted by her team, said: ''Janet wishes rumors she'd be at the #BillboardAwards were right. She never confirmed as her schedule would not permit. She sends wishes for a great event.''
http://www.contactmusic.com/story/janet-jackson-pays-tribute-to-holographic-michael_4204539
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Ok I have some questions...Holograms look like holograms...I understand this is now tech and everything but one of the dancers beside the chair touched his arm, did anyone notice that, and he had a shadow, in 2-Pac's hologram when the lights shined on his feet when he was in front of the lights across the floor you could see them through his feet cause this was a hologram when MJ stands on the lights on the floor you can't see the lights on the floor his feet block them out...And then the stairs are just to much...I like the way that make it look wavy in the beginning but that is no projected image. I don't know who it is but its just don't not seem to be what they say.
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^^^^ Because that's most likely an impersonator performing live on stage. there's no meaning in using hologram for impersonators.
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^^^^ Because that's most likely an impersonator performing live on stage. there's no meaning in using hologram for impersonators.
Thats what i tought also,but i dont know anymore.
I saw it again and again.
But i dont think it is a real person,look how he sings love /love in the end like a robot.
And the robot move is sometimes really like a robot.
I tought about CGI,but how do you make that possible live on stage? If it was not a film playing.
And if Michael was behind it,he made a not so good image of himself.
And than again,yes i Saw he touches the dancer next to him in the beginning??????
To be or not to be showed us a recording from the audience,and said looke this is what they see/saw.
Is it possible they saw something else than we did? because they were exited and touched by it all?
Was it a live performance with a impersonator, and did they do something to the video what we saw???
I dont know what is going on here??
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Saw this video on the other site.
So they used a Actor/impersonator?
We are to believe it was a hologram.
Than why does the hologram of Elvis looke like Elvis and Tupac also i think.
And why does Michael looke nothing like Michael?
And was the dancer also a Hologram..He touches her.
http://youtu.be/RFoSwc3w0PA
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I thought the background, the dancers and 'MJ' were all part of the hologram?
I thought the only 'real' thing was the front row of dancers with the lights.
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I thought the background, the dancers and 'MJ' were all part of the hologram?
I thought the only 'real' thing was the front row of dancers with the lights.
Yes,must be :icon_question:
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What I saw looked just like MJ. I don't get it.
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bec this is what it should've been
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn_54acIIAEHY3J.jpg)
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Ok? I'm confused, Thriller.
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Ok this is what I think, I think MJ is a good impersonator of MJ's impersonators, the spins he did is EXACTLY the way MJ's impersonators does, as we know Michael likes CONTROVERSY this was served to the Media to talk about it, remember in order to MJ to come back he needs controversy and that everybody talks about him so this is the way he did it. It's real MJ performing on stage, I agree with the ones that have said the dancer touched Michael's arm and that another dancer bumped his leg "ON PURPOSE". I see a correct lip sync what makes me wonder: how the heck Michael could make a perfect lip sync if he never sang this song?
Furthermore I believe it was used a CGI effect on Michael's face making him look younger and distorting his face somehow, if you carefully watch his face looks sometimes like Michael while he looks different in other moments.
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/11/50-worst-special-effects-movie-history/tron-legacy
Ah and I would like to highlight the helicopter sound while SWAT guys were performing at the beginning of the show, a clear hint to the helicopter where began the first doubts of Michael being dead.
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The one that Thriller posted is a photoshopped image.
This is what it really looked like:
(http://static.gigwise.com/artists/michaeljackson3948493.jpg)
(http://www.billboard.com/files/media/michael-jackson-hologram-2014-billboard-music-awards-performance-650.jpg)
(http://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/michael-jackson-hologram.jpg?w=350&h=350&crop=1)
(http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/537a0c2069bedde806868b02/a-hologram-michael-jackson-gave-an-amazing-performance-at-last-nights-billboard-music-awards.jpg)
However, yes, I too think an impersonator was used for this. CGI-like technology and etc.
For those interested, here´s an opinion/info on that:
http://www.damienshields.com/hologram-at-2014-billboard-music-awards-not-michael-jackson-but-an-impersonator/ (http://www.damienshields.com/hologram-at-2014-billboard-music-awards-not-michael-jackson-but-an-impersonator/)
And some info/statement from the Estate:
http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/news/mj-estate-and-jackie-jackson-comment-on-virtual-michael-jackson-performance/ (http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/news/mj-estate-and-jackie-jackson-comment-on-virtual-michael-jackson-performance/)
http://home.mj-upbeat.com/2014/05/20/statement-from-the-estate-of-michael-jackson-may-20th/ (http://home.mj-upbeat.com/2014/05/20/statement-from-the-estate-of-michael-jackson-may-20th/)
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Ok? I'm confused, Thriller.
sorry i forgot to post the other image
Thank you Mary.
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All of the above look like MJ to me.
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All of the above look like MJ to me.
It's MJ using some kind of stuff inside his pants to make him look different/different shape and performing impersonator's moves way, IMO.
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Agree with those that say the dancers look more like holograms/CGIs than 'MJ', some of the time, but to me he keeps changing from 'real' to CGI/whatever. Doesn't matter how he did it, MJ/impersonator, hologram/CGI, bit of both, or none of either, he's got everyone's attention again (mine anyway!) - mission accomplished!
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Did Billboard Use a Michael Jackson Impersonator for Hologram?
The Internet is buzzing about an odd Michael Jackson impersonation that was billed as the King of Pop returning to perform a new song in the form of a Hologram at the 2014 Billboard Awards. Whether it was hologram technology or not, it clearly was a Michael Jackson impersonation.
The (Caucasian) impersonator did not look like Michael and the body wasn’t his. The technology is here to bring Michael Jackson back onscreen — using an impersonator and superimposing his face over the impersonator’s face. But that’s not what we saw on the Billboard Awards last night.
Besides the fact that he’s dead, Michael has never performed that song particular before. So there would be no way to superimpose his face singing that new song.
Still, gullible Americans were manipulated into believing the drivel they saw onscreen during the Billboard Awards was really Michael Jackson appearing through the magic of Hologram technology.
It just goes to show you that mass delusions are real.
http://sandrarose.com/2014/05/did-billboard-use-a-michael-jackson-impersonator-for-hologram/
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70624324/Blankie/Appunti%20Windows-1.jpg)
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That's how I felt - manipulated
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bec this is what it should've been
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn_54acIIAEHY3J.jpg)
yessssss, exactly. mj's face is more oval, the holograms face is more squared.
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Ok this is what I think, I think MJ is a good impersonator of MJ's impersonators, the spins he did is EXACTLY the way MJ's impersonators does, as we know Michael likes CONTROVERSY this was served to the Media to talk about it, remember in order to MJ to come back he needs controversy and that everybody talks about him so this is the way he did it. It's real MJ performing on stage, I agree with the ones that have said the dancer touched Michael's arm and that another dancer bumped his leg "ON PURPOSE". I see a correct lip sync what makes me wonder: how the heck Michael could make a perfect lip sync if he never sang this song?
Furthermore I believe it was used a CGI effect on Michael's face making him look younger and distorting his face somehow, if you carefully watch his face looks sometimes like Michael while he looks different in other moments.
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/11/50-worst-special-effects-movie-history/tron-legacy
Ah and I would like to highlight the helicopter sound while SWAT guys were performing at the beginning of the show, a clear hint to the helicopter where began the first doubts of Michael being dead.
i noticed the same thing. sometimes while performing it looked like mj other times not. unfortunately they never got close enough and he never stayed still long enough. some of his dance moves were on point with the rhythm and some were not, surprisingly the moon walk for one.
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blankie, on the pics that you posted, does MJ have a mold on his face on the pic on the left? I have always gotten a really weird vibe from him then. but I don't know why. maybe its the way he was acting here in this vid. I loveeeeee MJ but that's one particular time that he confused me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GClFIhQ4n8
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The first thing I noticed when I watched it on the night was that the 'persons' nose seemed to grow down from their forehead like a tube, almost causing a barrier between the eyes and that the mouth was small and narrow, and the lower half of the face seemed to protrude. Also the eyes seemed more closed, almost Oriental and the eyebrows looked like the outer part was missing. Altogether the person is still attractive, but nothing like Michael Jackson, so the tissues I had at the ready were not required..... :icon_cry:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn_54acIIAEHY3J.jpg)
This picture posted by Thriller4ever above makes me feel like someone is squeezing my heart :bowdown:
That's what I expected to feel on the night, but instead I felt, disappointment, shock and then anger.
To be honest after looking at the picture below it looks rather like I imagine a blow up MJ manequin or tribute doll would look! :icon_lol: :icon_redface:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70624324/Blankie/Appunti%20Windows-1.jpg)
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@ michaelslady
I found this picture and is only used to compare the two different faces.
I think that every thing that concerns Mj after 5 years of hoax give us strong and conflicting emotions.
But he said from the beginning , is a great adventure : sometimes is not easy, but the sensations that gives us are truly unique :icon_razz:
Here UNITED IN L.O.V.E. :moonwalk_:
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MJ looks different every time he shows back up after a hiatus. That's nothing new. We've always accepted it before, now suddenly people think it's weird?
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Did anyone else notice that the hands of MJ/impersonator seemed aged? kinda like MJs would be at his age now? its like one moment it looked like him but then again it didn't. I thought the person looked Asian. It reminds me of something I read here on the forum about the paramedics arriving at the house on 6/25/09 and seeing a bald, old person that looked Asian and that they never recognized him :WTF:
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MJ looks different every time he shows back up after a hiatus. That's nothing new. We've always accepted it before, now suddenly people think it's weird?
I'm with bec, and I wonder if mj hasn't had surgery to look different and that was him performing? Does anyone think so? Perhaps now he has to disguise himself to look like mj versus mj disguising to not look like mj, idk why but I think it's because of all these weird things the media has announced about mj that mj really may come back this summer and I am sincerely praying he does, the world needs him and not just for his beautiful music but for the healing helping man he is and I know wherever Michael may be right now, he is donating,helping form organizations and feed people,children and animals because he would never stop doing that. Well take care everyone and not trying to change subject s but please give me your opinions on when mj will be back. Five yearsand we are all still believers, that just goes to show how many inconsistencies,clues and even proof we believers have witnessed, where did he go! :screaming-7365: :thjajaja121: take care everyone :bearhug:
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Sorry to double post but I just noticed something, the hologram michaels face looks to be shaped just like the Dave Dave on Larry king perhaps he doesn't want to get caught and used a similar disguise. Does anyone else agree? You have to focus on the chin and cheaks look husk like NHS disguise on Larry kind please give your thoughts because I'm beginning to really believe this was Michael Jackson live or he was performing this in his disguise whil being recorded for his hologram. :icon_rr:
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@TypeOnegative, I agree with you. I think the ears are the same shape almost. My 13 year old even says the jaw line looks the same as MJ to her. Will we ever know the truth lol
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So what if that was Michael? What does he want to prove by changing his appearance (with smaller mouth, narrower eyes, shortened height, and an overall disproportionate body) and dancing in an embarrassingly inefficient manner? Does he want people to think the BBMAs guy doesn’t have Michael’s magic? Well, DUH, everyone knows that, there’s nothing new about it.
I don’t know how many of you have enjoyed the performance, and how many of you ACTUALLY think that was MJ, but the moment I saw the dude on the TV screen, my grin disappeared. He didn’t have the energy and the aura Michael has. When Michael dances, his energy reaches us. Even if he is blankly looking at the screen, there is energy whereas this guy didn’t have anything. It was stagnant and I felt absolutely nothing.
I know this is only what I feel and is definitely not any solid evidence. Most don’t even believe in all this ‘energy’ talk.
But fact remains is, every impersonator = Michael – his aura. So it doesn’t really matter whether he did look like Michael, he simply failed to ‘connect’ or as RK said on the other thread, the most appropriate word, his performance was ‘soulless’. That is not what Michael's about.
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So what if that was Michael? What does he want to prove by changing his appearance (with smaller mouth, narrower eyes, shortened height, and an overall disproportionate body) and dancing in an embarrassingly inefficient manner? Does he want people to think the BBMAs guy doesn’t have Michael’s magic? Well, DUH, everyone knows that, there’s nothing new about it.
I don’t know how many of you have enjoyed the performance, and how many of you ACTUALLY think that was MJ, but the moment I saw the dude on the TV screen, my grin disappeared. He didn’t have the energy and the aura Michael has. When Michael dances, his energy reaches us. Even if he is blankly looking at the screen, there is energy whereas this guy didn’t have anything. It was stagnant and I felt absolutely nothing.
I know this is only what I feel and is definitely not any solid evidence. Most don’t even believe in all this ‘energy’ talk.
But fact remains is, every impersonator = Michael – his aura. So it doesn’t really matter whether he did look like Michael, he simply failed to ‘connect’ or as RK said on the other thread, the most appropriate word, his performance was ‘soulless’. That is not what Michael's about.
:th_bravo:
YES YES YES - exactly how I felt from the first 5 seconds in
IF he's still alive I certainly can't see that any surgery would make him look 20-30 years younger! All of his looks have been at least a little older looking than the previous ones. He's nearly 56 for goodness sake.
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The human face has thousands of muscles. I cannot believe we are still comparing face photographs to try n "prove" MJ =/= MJ. Take 2 photos of your own self and compare to see how completely futile this line of "investigation" is.
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So what makes you think it IS Michael, just because that dude looks like him?
okay fine. That is Michael himself on stage. and so are the many impersonators who have done a million surgeries to look like him. They too are Michael.
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MJ looks different every time he shows back up after a hiatus. That's nothing new. We've always accepted it before, now suddenly people think it's weird?
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm not confident in my assertion, but I think it's probably the real Michael Jackson in that performance, albeit slightly altered in appearance. Every decade he goes through a metamorphosis of sorts. June 25th, 2009 is plenty of time to alter your appearance. it's not like he suddenly did this yesterday. Still though, I can see why many believe it was an impersonator.
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(http://www.michaeljacksoncelebrityclothing.com/MJ-Pics/E-Casanova-Tribute-Artist/photo_004.jpg)
now believe this is michael jackson
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MJ looks different every time he shows back up after a hiatus. That's nothing new. We've always accepted it before, now suddenly people think it's weird?
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm not confident in my assertion, but I think it's probably the real Michael Jackson in that performance, albeit slightly altered in appearance. Every decade he goes through a metamorphosis of sorts. June 25th, 2009 is plenty of time to alter your appearance. it's not like he suddenly did this yesterday. Still though, I can see why many believe it was an impersonator. We haven't seen him in nearly five years so the consensus would be that he would have undergone some sort of reconstruction in terms of his appearance. He's an architect. Just what we've been accustomed to over the years.
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I do have a question for you, however. do you think at 55 michael would still be able to dance as 25? Sounds absurd to pose such a question as that, because we know michael takes his craft seriously and doesn't seem to have lost a step, but he has to decline to some degree physically. Of course he's going to be great, but I don't expect him to dance like he's in his 20's or even 30's. it's father time.
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he can't dance. the next door kid can do way better.
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he can't dance. the next door kid can do way better.
but what if that next door kid was mj? ;D
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he can't dance. the next door kid can do way better.
but what if that next door kid was mj? ;D
then i wouldn't have called him a kid.
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OMFG, my sides hurt from laughing so hard! How can anyone think this looks like Michael? MJ's mouth is twice as big, MJ has no hamster cheeks and ...... CAN DANCE, 50's or not! This is it (partly) proves he can still move like he used to. And why the hell would he make himself look like an impersonator? Why not just send an actual impersonator? There is simply no logic in this. If that is Michael Jackson, either of the 2 as I believe there is more than 1, then I am Napoleon.
:thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
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@Thriller4ever
He didn’t have the energy and the aura Michael has. When Michael dances, his energy reaches us. Even if he is blankly looking at the screen, there is energy whereas this guy didn’t have anything. It was stagnant and I felt absolutely nothing.
Totally agree, the charisma , the energy of Michael is in every video , always the same ,although I see the same movie for many times.
When I look at the TII I get excited as the first time ,the videos of his tour enchant me...Michael is unique, nothing and no one can imitate , and I think this Sunday, we had yet another proof. :moonwalk_:
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSaMhHnQvNg&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
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Remember "GREENMAN"? prelude to Slave to the Rhythm. My son figured it out. :TongueOutSmiley:
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Remember "GREENMAN"? prelude to Slave to the Rhythm. My son figured it out. (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/Smileys/popos/TongueOutSmiley.gif)
What are you suggesting?
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apply greenscreen technology to a body rather than a screen. CGI until he "breaks" the background after coming down the stairs. "greenman". He moved exactly as a 55 year old Michael who has been sipping Pina Coladas... LMAO... should and IMO would. Ive poured over past performances and its spot on. None of us should make the mistake of assuming we know what or how he will do anything let alone what he looks like.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Fsj2wdFDmLk#t=5 :thjajaja121:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HR5J5jUDcnA#t=101 If I were Michael.... errr well I am but not Jackson... this song would inspire me to name my album Xscape. Just a thought
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For me the best part was when he got up on his toes and dropped two middle fingers... :abouttime:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Fsj2wdFDmLk#t=5 :thjajaja121:
:beerchug: The best part......."if you have half-a-brain " lol :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: !!!!
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Puzzles are more fun when the pieces fit. :penguin:
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Puzzles are more fun when the pieces fit. :penguin:
Yes indeed :beerchug: :icon_lol: !!! F. :images: for they know who lol !!!
(http://michelleleighwrites.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/tip-toe.gif)
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NOW... what do you KNOW?
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i'm pissed off at people saying BBMAs hologram was great. What I find shocking is, Tupac's hologram was quite good, elvis's was amazing, but what happened when it came to Michael? Why would they present an impersonator? I'm starting to have second thoughts about the xscape album. The real question, what was Michael's involvement in both the album and the bbma's performance.
What I find shocking is, Tupac's hologram was quite good, elvis's was amazing, but what happened when it came to Michael?
That's what's made me wonder. They did a really good job on Tupac's and Elvis' hologram, why not on Michael's? The difference is that Elvis and Tupac are dead and so producers are 'allowed' to make a good hologram of them, while producers are not allowed to make a (copy) good hologram of a living Michael. I think they did a good job and I enjoyed the performance but I believe they would have made a perfect copy (hologram) if Michael was dead.
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i'm pissed off at people saying BBMAs hologram was great. What I find shocking is, Tupac's hologram was quite good, elvis's was amazing, but what happened when it came to Michael? Why would they present an impersonator? I'm starting to have second thoughts about the xscape album. The real question, what was Michael's involvement in both the album and the bbma's performance.
What I find shocking is, Tupac's hologram was quite good, elvis's was amazing, but what happened when it came to Michael?
That's what's made me wonder. They did a really good job on Tupac's and Elvis' hologram, why not on Michael's? The difference is that Elvis and Tupac are dead and so producers are 'allowed' to make a good hologram of them, while producers are not allowed to make a (copy) good hologram of a living Michael. I think they did a good job and I enjoyed the performance but I believe they would have made a perfect copy (hologram) if Michael was dead.
I'm just guessing, but could it be that in the case of Elvis and Tupac, they used real existing videos, meaning that Elvis and Tupac performed this/sang this in real life and they made a hologram performance out of it? Then that's a big difference compairing to Michael's 'hologram' performance, because there was no existing footage of this. They had to put this together from other footage, hence the sometimes totally 'off' look. Or am I totally wrong here?
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I think you´re right Do.
Hence also the computer-designed head/face.
They had to make Mr. Hologram actually lip-sync the lyrics to the song, which real Michael had never performed before on stage.
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Na-ah, they claimed they made this out of never-before-seen footage of Michael actually performing this.
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^^^ with headphones in a studio, near Paul anka on the piano?
Even if there exists such footage, it wasn't fit for this performance, singing and dancing 'angry' on stage. Maybe they used some parts of it, certainly not all of it.
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IMHO, they used no MJ footage at all. This is clearly an impersonator.
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Well, he does have Michael's large hands...
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IMHO, they used no MJ footage at all. This is clearly an impersonator.
Totally agree, is absolutely another person, in everything completely different from MJ : face,body and movements.
http://divinevarod.com/2014/05/20/michael-jackson-the-estate-sony-his-family-and-the-hologram-that-wasnt-him/
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IMHO, they used no MJ footage at all. This is clearly an impersonator.
Totally agree, is absolutely another person, in everything completely different from MJ : face,body and movements.
http://divinevarod.com/2014/05/20/michael-jackson-the-estate-sony-his-family-and-the-hologram-that-wasnt-him/
And why would Michael allow that? (that is, if he's still alive or if this is really his hoax)
Is it just that he likes to cause controversy, like many still think.
Or is it, like the blogger you quoted, said:
With Michael still in the media daily, an Estate that has split the family and seems intend on making money from him in any way they can no matter if the product be inferior making a mockery of his memory, it looks like Michael’s family, friends and fans have to morn him again and again every day as if we are all stuck in a never ending groundhog day.
If Michael were behind this, don't you agree that the 'hologram' would have been perfect, just like everything else that he has done, was?
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:(. It was mike. Bma or bam. Come on guys. Makeup to make his face different. Mike. Watch it again
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I think Michael wants to keep talking about him , especially now that June 25 is approaching,
And for me is another his clue , use an impersonator at the Billboard, because the media has always spoken a lot of his many impersonators. :moonwalk_:
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To me, a perfect clue would be a totally perfect (almost as if he was real) 'hologram' of Michael on stage. An impersonator is no clue in my view, it is at most a clue that the real deal is no longer here and that we will have to do with a replacement.
I still think it is a composed hologram of available footage of Michael though.
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I showed the hologram video to my son the other day, and he immediately said it was an imposter.
He actually thought it looked very womanly, especially in the hips. :icon_cool:
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And now what the Estate has to say regarding Xscape and the Illusion .
http://www.dailymichael.com/news/mj-estate-statements/265-may-25-2014-message-from-the-estate-of-michael-jackson (http://www.dailymichael.com/news/mj-estate-statements/265-may-25-2014-message-from-the-estate-of-michael-jackson)
From The Estate of Michael Jackson: Hello MJ Fam:
It has been a whirlwind few weeks and we wanted to share some more good news with you. In the six days since the video of the virtual MJ dancing to "Slave To The Rhythm" was uploaded to VEVO, it has been viewed more than 10 million times and that number is continuing to grow steadily. The performance gave the Billboard Music Awards its highest ratings in 13 years, and the response in the general public has been overwhelmingly positive – if you look at the VEVO post, you can see that the likes outweigh the dislikes 10 to 1!!!! This tells us it is a major success w/the general public which, after all, is what we all want – for the rest of the world to see and love Michael the way that we all do. The efforts of the last few weeks, and especially, the performance on the Billboard Awards is working!
While expectations might have been built up due to Alki David's frivolous lawsuit and inaccurate comments (he was not involved with the production at all), and ABC's efforts to promote the show, the Estate has tried hard to keep expectations in check. The Estate is proud of what has been achieved with the promotional activations over the last few weeks but recognizes, along with all of you, that no one/nothing can replace Michael. Fans all over the world are speaking out with their positive comments online and with their support for Xscape and now the general public is taking notice and joining in.
The general public, and more importantly the media, often takes cues from the fan community. The support of the fan community publicly will only augment the support of the general public for Michael Jackson.
The MJ fans have much to be proud of - HITS Magazine put Xscape in its number one spot based on it's tallies for US sales, the record is the #1 selling album worldwide for its first week and the #1 streamed record on Spotify for the first week of release! The illusion has put Michael back in the forefront of the entertainment world and helped promote Xscape.
The Estate hopes that the fans are as thrilled as they are to see so much positive press about Michael from every corner of the globe. It is heartwarming to see that the overwhelming reaction from the general public to the new music and to Michael. As we mentioned in one of our emails last week - we're just getting started. Keep watching for what's next.
MJOnline
The Official Online Team of The Michael Jackson Estate™
Estate
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and Rolling Stone gives us their take on the Hologram in this little piece....
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/billboard-music-awards-2014s-15-best-and-worst-moments-20140519/worst-misuse-of-a-pop-icon-putting-michael-jacksons-name-on-whatever-that-was-0503365 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/billboard-music-awards-2014s-15-best-and-worst-moments-20140519/worst-misuse-of-a-pop-icon-putting-michael-jacksons-name-on-whatever-that-was-0503365)
Worst Misuse of a Pop Icon: Putting Michael Jackson's Name On Whatever That Was
You wouldn't think something could get any more crass and shameless than "Michael Jackson hologram," but the Billboard Awards and the executors of his estate certainly found a way. First off, we’re pretty sure that wasn’t even a hologram of Michael Jackson, but a hologram of a Michael Jackson impersonator — where are you gonna find one of those in Las Vegas? You guys know this is 2014 and we're not watching this on a cathode TV with rabbit ears — i.e., we can see his face. Secondly, Michael Jackson analyzed everything — videos, choreography, etc. — to the last detail and would have never approved some slapped-together mess full of Cirque du Soleil nonsense and no discernable theme. Thirdly, even Michael at 55 years old would have moved around more than that. The most physical musician in pop history was sitting in a chair. Fourthly, in a room full of people who would gladly sing Michael's praises (Kelly Rowland, Pete Wentz, John Legend), why waste his introduction for Ludacris, Brad Paisley and Ke$ha to shill their new ABC show, "Which allows you guys, the fans, to vote for your favorite live performances." Hands down the most appalling, lamest cash-in on MJ's legacy we've seen thus far.
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I showed the hologram video to my son the other day, and he immediately said it was an imposter.
He actually thought it looked very womanly, especially in the hips. :icon_cool:
humm interesting to me because one of the first feelings i got from it was paris ( felt like this person favored her more than michael lol)
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Did the estate just say "keep watching"? Yes, they did.
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The estate have always given hints or clues giving the impression that MJ is alive. They watch the hoax forums for sure. For me there are 2 possible reasons for this :
either MJ is alive and trying to let his fans know
or the estate see this as a way to increase revenue and to keep an air of 'mystery' around MJ. Something he was awesome at doing during his time in the public eye.
I switch from one belief to the other at the moment, depending on how I'm feeling that day....
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Did the estate just say "keep watching"? Yes, they did.
Yesss !!!! @ we're just getting started. Keep watching for what's next.
And as Michael says.... The best is yet to come !!! :moonwalk_: :icon_geek:
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We know they are aware of the hoax forums, so yeah, they probably just copied us copying back. Why they would is unclear.
Remember when I called n spoke to Paris's bodyguard after Ms. Katherine's "disappearance" and how friendly and accommodating he was at mention of the hoax; thanking me for my support. For whatever the reason, the family and estate have never been offended by hoax talk, much less ever tried to discourage it. Which, I always argued, if MJ were in any danger, they would. I also argued if he were really dead they would be offended then too. Although I can't argue that position as strongly as I can the escaping danger/FBI involvement theory one, the portion of the hoax that has existed in real life has always had an entertainment feel to it. Perhaps that's all it ever was meant to be.
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Here's an extremely well done video which presents a very different view on what happened. The return of the Merovingian King. Preparing us for project blue beam and the great deception. Very provocative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBrzrse9H94&hd=1
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Did the estate just say "keep watching"? Yes, they did.
Yesss !!!! @ we're just getting started. Keep watching for what's next.
And as Michael says.... The best is yet to come !!! :moonwalk_: :icon_geek:
And this is the headline I just read from Bill Board page.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6099288/ask-billboard-michael-jackson-back-to-the-beginning?mobile_redirection=false (http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6099288/ask-billboard-michael-jackson-back-to-the-beginning?mobile_redirection=false)
Ask Billboard: Michael Jackson, 'Back' To The Beginning
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By Gary Trust | May 26, 2014 11:35 AM EDT
(just the fact that they put the word back in italics is what grabbed my attention. However I do recognize that their use of back means back from the dead in an illusionary way like a hologram. ) Still grabbed my attention though.
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I know I'm late on this but the close ups was an impersonator and other times it looked like MJ (to me). They purposely kept distance at times which I thought was strange. When they did that, I think it was MJ. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v98habAoYkM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u9EtKmEyQg thought we could watch this one and see just how she interacts with the hologram or doesn't
by the way do i recall someone saying something about michael and a crocked pinky finger?
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I know I'm late on this but the close ups was an impersonator and other times it looked like MJ (to me). They purposely kept distance at times which I thought was strange. When they did that, I think it was MJ. :)
we saw the same thing.
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Yes bec that was very weird how Paris' bodyguard was when you called him. I remember that the time I thought it was most unusual.
I would say that it wouldn't be so weird for the estate to not object to the hoax being believed because it is after all, a business.
I would also say though that I can't imagine the family going along with that if it wasn't true, because that would be painful for them and the grieving process. And although they never properly address the hoax they seem to hint at it and allow lots of fans to believe it without denying it.
So yeah, it's not 'evidence' but it has always appeared to me that the family are supporting the hoax theory.
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Yes bec that was very weird how Paris' bodyguard was when you called him. I remember that the time I thought it was most unusual.
I would say that it wouldn't be so weird for the estate to not object to the hoax being believed because it is after all, a business.
I would also say though that I can't imagine the family going along with that if it wasn't true, because that would be painful for them and the grieving process. And although they never properly address the hoax they seem to hint at it and allow lots of fans to believe it without denying it.
So yeah, it's not 'evidence' but it has always appeared to me that the family are supporting the hoax theory.
I don't see how remaining silent on an issue is supporting the theory. yes, there are hints that they are aware, but I think the point is that WE have to decide what we want to/do believe. They are the aware actors in this drama and it is not their place to step out of character and speak directly to us, anymore than we would expect a fictional character to step out of a book and reveal the ending. We are watching a play, and like any well constructed play, the audience will be prepared, confused, surprised, deliberately misled, etc., etc.
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Yes bec that was very weird how Paris' bodyguard was when you called him. I remember that the time I thought it was most unusual.
I would say that it wouldn't be so weird for the estate to not object to the hoax being believed because it is after all, a business.
I would also say though that I can't imagine the family going along with that if it wasn't true, because that would be painful for them and the grieving process. And although they never properly address the hoax they seem to hint at it and allow lots of fans to believe it without denying it.
So yeah, it's not 'evidence' but it has always appeared to me that the family are supporting the hoax theory.
I don't see how remaining silent on an issue is supporting the theory. yes, there are hints that they are aware, but I think the point is that WE have to decide what we want to/do believe. They are the aware actors in this drama and it is not their place to step out of character and speak directly to us, anymore than we would expect a fictional character to step out of a book and reveal the ending. We are watching a play, and like any well constructed play, the audience will be prepared, confused, surprised, deliberately misled, etc., etc.
Yes you are right it is not evidence of them supporting the hoax theory. It is just my impression (on a good day). I just want to believe in the truth, and seeing as I don't know the truth, I will continue to be unsure of everything. I was never a massive MJ fan before the hoax so it wasn't too upsetting for me on June 25th, but then I learned more about him and discovered that he is a very intelligent man, so it intrigued me more than anything. I'm more of a spectator these days as I don't feel I have too much to add to any hoax research. I guess we will find out one day...or not!
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:moonwalk_:
http://youtu.be/42MwLoQOmWk
http://youtu.be/VauzP4Gw2Cc
"Effectively we never saw Michael as this and the deception was enormous"....
:moonwalk_:
Great Genius :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red
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Recently someone on the David Icke forum posted this video and characterized it as a rather disturbing look at Michael Jackson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuwILMnRnk&list=PLHm31PAlRqqhg3lmED0IkSWNcmQoOhrIQ Regardless of what one might think about their analysis, one would have to concede that the rings around Michael's head do look like rings of Saturn.
If you are like me, you will probably be 'disturbed' by this video as well. Hard not to be and, judging by the number of dislikes v. likes, you would be in good company. But there was something about this video that caused me to look at many more at each of the associated sites with the odd names of Lie Killers and Christian Authority. Shown repeatedly throughout each of these videos is what is called the Mark of God which consists of 666 in a circle. You can probably see now where the issues begin with these folks. If you look at their site, you will see that all their videos were uploaded at one time a few months back. If you watch any, I think you will agree they are very professionally done. So who are these people? And why did I feel somehow Michael was involved.
Today I stumbled on the smoking gun. This Mark of God appears prominently at the hologram appearance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lF-BejW6-g Beginning at about 3.25 they start to comment on it.
Just sayin....
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Recently someone on the David Icke forum posted this video and characterized it as a rather disturbing look at Michael Jackson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuwILMnRnk&list=PLHm31PAlRqqhg3lmED0IkSWNcmQoOhrIQ Regardless of what one might think about their analysis, one would have to concede that the rings around Michael's head do look like rings of Saturn.
If you are like me, you will probably be 'disturbed' by this video as well. Hard not to be and, judging by the number of dislikes v. likes, you would be in good company. But there was something about this video that caused me to look at many more at each of the associated sites with the odd names of Lie Killers and Christian Authority. Shown repeatedly throughout each of these videos is what is called the Mark of God which consists of 666 in a circle. You can probably see now where the issues begin with these folks. If you look at their site, you will see that all their videos were uploaded at one time a few months back. If you watch any, I think you will agree they are very professionally done. So who are these people? And why did I feel somehow Michael was involved.
Today I stumbled on the smoking gun. This Mark of God appears prominently at the hologram appearance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lF-BejW6-g Beginning at about 3.25 they start to comment on it.
Just sayin....
didn't watch all of the first one and just peeked at the second. ummmm some of the stuff in the first one felt like things front used to say in a round about way. just sayin' it is all a bit out there :D for me.
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didn't watch all of the first one and just peeked at the second. ummmm some of the stuff in the first one felt like things front used to say in a round about way. just sayin' it is all a bit out there :D for me.
Front, you say? Would not be the first time someone described Michael as 'out there.' For me the evidence is irrefutable that Michael has a connection to this site. In case you are not convinced, you might want to watch this video of theirs. Heal the World provides the background. There are disturbing videos of police brutality (reminds me of the prison version of MJ's They Don't Really Care About Us) followed by some hateful Youtube comments and finally 'God's' voice saying: The pure evil is not Satan, but the evil that lies in people's hearts because they didn't bother to kill it with love.' Sounds very Michaelish to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aGiBzv9GBM&list=PLHm31PAlRqqiYWys-uYmLHc_W0Qqa60Iq&index=6
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There's more hologram talk about. This time Elvis and Frank are along .
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-michael-jackson-elvis-presley-and-frank-sinatra-set-for-resurrection-2049572 (http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-michael-jackson-elvis-presley-and-frank-sinatra-set-for-resurrection-2049572)
Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, and Frank Sinatra set for 'resurrection'
Sunday, 4 January 2015 - 5:20pm IST | Place: London | Agency: ANI
Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra are all being recreated as 'Star Wars'-style holograms, it has been revealed. Hollywood special effects studio Digital Domain is in talks with their estates to create astonishingly realistic 3D-style images of them, the Daily Star reported.
A senior executive at Digital Domain told that there was no reason why any or all their stable of digital stars would not be available for major tours or even long-term residencies in Las Vegas in the very near future.
US media analyst Mike Raia said that performing holograms of dead superstars are already being talked of as the next big thing in the music industry and even with the sophisticated technology they entail, concerts and tours could be staged at a fraction of the cost of those involving living entertainers.
Fans were astonished when Jackson's hologram performed a stunningly lifelike version of 'Slave to the Rhythm' at last year's Billboard Music Awards.
:icon_rolleyes: stunningly lifelike version :icon_e_confused: My first thought from this article was that I wished it was Tupac instead of Frank .
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Very interesting, RK, but this obscure media outlet from India appears to be the only source of the story. However, in seeing if I could find another source, I googled the 3 names and found this interesting tidbit from June 27, 2009.
Michael Jackson has been grouped with Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley as the defining trilogy of 20th century music.
http://www.examiner.com/article/michael-jackson-elvis-presley-frank-sinatra-superstars