Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Starchild on August 06, 2016, 09:17:20 PM

Title: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Starchild on August 06, 2016, 09:17:20 PM
I don't know if anyone has already posted about this, but if not, what do you all think of Jack Crooner?

http://jackcrooner.com/ (http://jackcrooner.com/)
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/01/prweb11466244.htm (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/01/prweb11466244.htm)

[youtube]https://youtu.be/bSUTYVRZHUQ[/youtube]


[youtube]https://youtu.be/SKDUrnwDpv0[/youtube]

More of Jack Crooner hanging out with OBee and Prince:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/w9OFvFGV9rc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 07, 2016, 02:03:30 AM
Oh God, that is SO obvious! That YANA cover is horrible. I don't like the original much but this is even worse! What did they do with his voice? Is he singing through a pipe or something or is it some weird digital filter?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 07, 2016, 02:28:49 AM
BTW: Good to see you back [member=7822]Starchild[/member]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Annabelle on August 07, 2016, 03:26:04 AM
Whoah, I saw him many times on Omer's Instagram and I was so afraid of thinking about it, seriously. For me, this is weird, but it makes sense a little. As I googled Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack... well, it sounds like this is staged, I think so. Although, as I saw some photos of that person, I noticed a similarity in the eyes and in the jaw. But I'm not taking it for granted, people can look very similar sometimes.
In my small opinion, which may be really weird as this person as well (God, forgive me) it may be like... Michael is using this person to camouflage himself. I mean when he's going out with Omer, Prince etc. and at some special events he may make a metamorphosis just to feel free among people (Michael was scared of people sometimes, he couldn't go out without security anywhere), to do whatever he wants to do and nobody will judge him. But, at the performances (and on the vids, when it comes to hear the singing, like Souza said) it may be someone else, who really is Jack Crooner or who is the real persona who looks like this. I know this is so tangled, but THIS IS IT. This is his time. This is his show. If this is Michael, in what I cannot believe for now, he has a lot of fun doing the things he couldn't do when he was himself. It may be really wonderful to walk straight the crowded streets and not being recognized. THIS IS A SHOW. :)
But, the last thing I can't check - the hands. It's haunting me.

If I made a mistake somewhere, please correct me, I'm still not great in English. Lots of love. x
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Starchild on August 07, 2016, 12:24:24 PM
Thanks, Souza.

:ghsdf: Well, here are a couple of videos featuring Dr. Alimorad "AJ" Farschian.

(What do you think of the eyes in the BeLIEve video [at 6:00-6:30] above versus in The Arthritis Show video below?)

From the YT channel of "Jack Jackson":

[youtube]https://youtu.be/2Ky3wMiBE8A[/youtube]

The Arthritis Show from Farschian's YT channel:
(Notice that the last name is misspelled at 0:06. What professional show does that?)

[youtube]https://youtu.be/TMuke9iwL9g[/youtube]

And Farschian's video deposition from the trial:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/6OUjnFJsZww[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: RK on August 07, 2016, 01:27:56 PM
I was watching these videos of Jack Crooner and the words of Conrad Murray are playing in my head instead of that [cough] singing.
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“Michael's past has been a momentous disaster, he carried a lot of pain.,” Murray admitted.

“He felt he could no longer look at the person in the mirror and get away from the issues. His hair could be changed, his skin could be changed, but his memory never changed. He wanted to have brain surgery and talked about having a brain transplant. Something that has never been done before.

"Michael was running away from himself.”
https://au.be.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/a/32135938/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-wanted-brain-transplant-drugs/#page1 (https://au.be.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/a/32135938/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-wanted-brain-transplant-drugs/#page1)

Could this be it?
Thanks for posting these Starchild. I wonder if that version of YANA was recorded after they shared that Ciggie on the boat?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: DarryLarryMarryJerry on August 07, 2016, 08:01:23 PM
Like a few have already said, I think Jack Crooner is a real person but I think Michael is also going in disguise as this "Jack Crooner" guy also.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 08, 2016, 02:07:25 AM
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nks for posting these Starchild. I wonder if that version of YANA was recorded after they shared that Ciggie on the boat?


Me too. It's well done but his eyes look completely different sometimes.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Thriller4ever on August 08, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
So Jack Crooner is actually Alimorad?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 08, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
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So Jack Crooner is actually Alimorad?

Yup, isn't it amazing?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 08, 2016, 02:38:38 PM
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So Jack Crooner is actually Alimorad?

Yup, isn't it amazing?

a.k.a. Alex BTW.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: looking4truth on August 09, 2016, 08:31:02 PM
Another odd thing... He makes short films. How convenient. lol

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XbMWb6o3mk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on August 10, 2016, 07:56:28 AM
Why convenient? This is obviously not Michael. In some footage I wonder about the posture, because he has a slender figure and long arms. But in this video, you can see from the mouth that it's impossible that this would be Michael.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Starchild on August 10, 2016, 10:57:24 AM
See comparisons of the person who is supposed to be the real Farschian versus the person who is allegedly MJ in disguise as Farschian; comparison starts at 3:15:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/eJEQUUrweaY[/youtube]

OBee sure seems to hold the guy in high esteem--check out his demeanor with him starting at 1:55:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/SivV8UrQAAs[/youtube]

Here is a link to a Twitter page full of photos: https://twitter.com/JackCroonerMJ/media
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 10, 2016, 04:57:20 PM
I wonder how pissed he is his disguise was noticed by so many again!

 :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Claudiamezz on August 11, 2016, 12:25:30 AM
I will admit he does look like Michael in disguise it's just that how does he disguise his own voice so well if it is Michael? I know Michael can change his voice well but this guy's voice is lower and he has a really strong accent. I'm confused on how that is possible.  :moonwalk_: :michael_jackson-1135: :multiplespotting: :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on August 11, 2016, 04:47:21 AM
Guys, look at the mouth. This simply can't be Michael because the mouth of 'Jack Crooner' is much bigger than Michaels.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 11, 2016, 05:45:35 AM
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I will admit he does look like Michael in disguise it's just that how does he disguise his own voice so well if it is Michael? I know Michael can change his voice well but this guy's voice is lower and he has a really strong accent. I'm confused on how that is possible.  :moonwalk_: :michael_jackson-1135: :multiplespotting: :michael-jackson:

Michael's real voice is pretty low. An accent can be taught.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 11, 2016, 05:48:21 AM
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Guys, look at the mouth. This simply can't be Michael because the mouth of 'Jack Crooner' is much bigger than Michaels.

Which Michael Jackson do you have in mind? Because I think his mouth is pretty big.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Starchild on August 11, 2016, 06:01:27 AM
Regarding the singing voice in the Jack Crooner music videos, I have yet to come upon a video that is an actual live performance rather than (what appears to be) lip-synched.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on August 11, 2016, 08:05:23 AM
Amazing I was laughing all night. The worlds greatest entertainer has struck gold once again. Love that sentimental Journey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZFcT6JsuV8 and those 7s. :TongueOutSmiley: Mikes favourite superhero is Morph from X-Men,Its Morph at his best.He can be who ever he wants now.Another thing this guy makes music videos for every song,no one does that anymore as music videos cost a lot of money to make.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on August 11, 2016, 09:34:25 AM
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Guys, look at the mouth. This simply can't be Michael because the mouth of 'Jack Crooner' is much bigger than Michaels.

Which Michael Jackson do you have in mind? Because I think his mouth is pretty big.

Not only the size, especially the shape of the mouth!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 11, 2016, 09:37:06 AM
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Guys, look at the mouth. This simply can't be Michael because the mouth of 'Jack Crooner' is much bigger than Michaels.

Which Michael Jackson do you have in mind? Because I think his mouth is pretty big.

Not only the size, especially the shape of the mouth!

Yes, I see what you mean but I don't see the problem really.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: DarryLarryMarryJerry on August 11, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
At 2:05 to 2:07 in the Sentamental Journey video a quote appears that says "Do what you must so that one day you can do what you want hbout that Jack Crooner" Anyone find that VERY interesting since Obviously Michael had do "What must be done" (Death hoax) "to do what he wants" Also I find it interesting that Seven shows up and is said multiple time throughout the whole video.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on August 12, 2016, 03:39:18 AM
I have no doubt Michael could pose as Jack Crooner if he's still around (what I hope, but my expectations are getting lower). And at some points his posture looks like it could be him. But in these video's... no, that's not Michael. The hands are too different, the shape of his mouth is too different, especially the upper lip. There's a bow in that, and the movement when he sings... Michael couldn't do that.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Starchild on August 12, 2016, 11:21:35 AM
[member=17272]Realdeal[/member] There is so much that can be done these days with mask-making, including the use of gelatin prosthetics in the creation of lips, noses, fingers, and so on, as well as the application of body hair. See the following page from the YT channel of Stan Winston School of Character Arts: https://www.youtube.com/user/StanWinstonSchool/search?query=gelatin+prosthetics (https://www.youtube.com/user/StanWinstonSchool/search?query=gelatin+prosthetics)

Stan Winston was director of MJ’s short film Ghosts.
 
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“I wanted Michael to play the haunted house guy," said Winston, "but also the mayor of the town, and an evil demon who comes in at one point. Michael wanted badly to be accepted as an actor, as something more than the King of Pop. But it was so difficult for people to get past Michael’s persona, I thought that the only way he would be accepted as a real actor was if he played all these parts, disguised in makeup, so that no one would know it was him until the end. And he was very agreeable to that idea.”   --Stan Winston

https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/michael-jackson-ghosts-1997# (https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/michael-jackson-ghosts-1997#)

On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the real Farschian has hairy hands (while MJ does not), and it is possible that OBee takes photos with/of both of them (while all of them are hanging out) as a way of playing and/or maintaining death hoax confusion. IDK. Just a thought.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmW02igWgAAln8p.jpg (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmW02igWgAAln8p.jpg)

And as for “The movement when he sings... Michael couldn't do that.” Why not?  :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Thriller4ever on August 12, 2016, 02:26:03 PM
 I think it maybe Michael. The hands give him away. The real guy has stout hands.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 13, 2016, 12:25:34 AM
The eyes give him away. Michael's are much darker and crooked. His left eye has a different shape, so does his left eyebrow.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 15, 2016, 02:37:37 AM
Crooked might not be the right word though. They differ just a bit.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on August 15, 2016, 09:55:22 AM
Wow I have to agree with Michael he always said great music never dies. ,Jack crooner is a hit.
"Lmao he is young at heart." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_kjz9a7Xrs
Sway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1xSYXfARtE SWAY ME SMOOOTH.
New york New york. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYThfqSNDHA
This guy has more quality music videos than all the artist in the music industry.
Fly me to the moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaP7mUbhuhM Watch out for that Moonwalk at 1:27. lmao (https://s3.postimg.org/vjdznxalb/2016-08-15+(1).png) (https://s3.postimg.org/qm50gjxzz/2016-08-15+(2).png) (https://s3.postimg.org/3zzp3tk9r/2016-08-15.png)(https://s3.postimg.org/p8ddl8yqn/2016-08-15+(3).png)  (https://s3.postimg.org/n5myhf2lr/Capture.jpg)(https://s3.postimg.org/cykyhlo6n/2016_08_15.jpg) how bout that?   :moonwalk_:(https://s4.postimg.org/svy9w08xl/black+eagle 2.jpg[img][img]https://s4.postimg.org/f3jv0di61/black+eagle.jpg) Was this the black eagle Janet hinted at?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: mattie on August 16, 2016, 03:44:19 PM
Hahaha to suppress your real good vocals range  is not easy.
That is what I hear?
And why that lisp.. false teeth?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on August 17, 2016, 03:07:26 AM
No, only a wrong assumption. It's just not Michael.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on August 17, 2016, 12:55:26 PM
Hello to everyone, This Jack Cooner guy does look real sometimes to me , but also looks very different sometimes, it does look like prosthetic make up at times, i especially looked at the hands and imho, saw in one of the videos that it does looks strange, like a smaller hand(thinner fingers) has prostehetic make up on it (at the palm of the hand), the fingers look thinner then the hand itself. it looked like it doesnt belong to eachother.

[member=15679][/member] realdeal i don't say that he is MJ , but i do think it is possible for MJ to look like Jack Crooner, if you see the metamorfose of Michael at the making of Ghosts, the lips are also of, but still its MJ. my problem are the hands, they look off at times to me, but i am not sure also.( maybe wisfull thinking)

I add the vid of making of ghosts i like to compare at one topic.

I am sorry for my english, thats also why i don't post for a long time, but i will never leave!

BTW i love the new forum, i imagine that it has cost so many hours and labour.
So thank u: Souza, and all the Mods who has made this forum possible, I really wanted to say that, alltough its off topic i hope you don't mind.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_fkHjssP7E[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: mattie on August 17, 2016, 01:50:48 PM
This guy has more quality music videos than all the artist in the music industry.quote unbreakable1



Yes isn't it strange? i dont think many people listen to them because the singing is so perfect  :icon_e_geek:
On the other end sometimes the singing improves, thats why i think he can do a lot better!!
I wonder for who he is making these video's?
For himself? or is there another meaning behind it.
Thats why i wonder,also the exaggerated way of pronouncing words and the lisp.
Then Sometimes head and body do not seem to belong together and other things that stand out???,but hey that's just me seeing things"?
Maybe i am wrong?
But if not Michael, who is it!!!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: RK on August 18, 2016, 03:25:46 AM
Another odd thing is the word farce in Dr Farschian's name.
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farce
fɑːs/Submit
noun
a comic dramatic work using buffoonery and horseplay and typically including crude characterization and ludicrously improbable situations.
"he toured the backwoods in second-rate farces"
synonyms:   slapstick comedy, broad comedy,
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on August 18, 2016, 05:28:01 AM
To be clear, I think Michael could very well pose as this person. I just don't think it's him in those videos.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on August 18, 2016, 10:39:43 AM
That is why this is working perfectly. There is always just enough to leave doubt in our minds.
And if there is a end to this and a return happens we all will still be in complete shock.
something that grabbed my attention recently is that in the song "xscape" Sometimes i feel like i got to get away! a Marilyn Monroe part was in it and sounds just like the girl in the Jack crooner videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYThfqSNDHA
Butt chin check! Has a similar look to Steve Martin(https://s3.postimg.org/6oej4utxr/download_1.jpg)
(https://s4.postimg.org/vywm3pq21/butt_chin.jpg[img]
[img]https://s4.postimg.org/ual0nkh0p/8614336_f496.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: suspicious mind on August 18, 2016, 07:08:37 PM
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That is why this is working perfectly. There is always just enough to leave doubt in our minds.
And if there is a end to this and a return happens we all will still be in complete shock.
something that grabbed my attention recently is that in the song "xscape" Sometimes i feel like i got to get away! a Marilyn Monroe part was in it and sounds just like the girl in the Jack crooner videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYThfqSNDHA
Butt chin check! Has a similar look to Steve Martin(https://s3.postimg.org/6oej4utxr/download_1.jpg)
(https://s4.postimg.org/vywm3pq21/butt_chin.jpg[img]
[img]https://s4.postimg.org/ual0nkh0p/8614336_f496.jpg)


made me think of steve martin also...... what the music sounds to me like though if someone could take different parts of say old timers performances or recordings and mix them together into something new. somehow rat pack takes my mind there. also the mouths don't seems to be quite in sync.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 09, 2016, 09:25:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPeW6rveiRA This is unreal.............Just can't say much about this.
Drs orders!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 09, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
WTF did I just watch?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 09, 2016, 03:19:48 PM
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WTF did I just watch?
Looks like someone is having fun. But listen closely to the video it has a similar style to the this is it special edition. This Dr. is something else Dr. by day Singer by night,actor and movie producer. Crooner definition "a singer, typically a male one, who sings sentimental songs in a soft, low voice." This is a real special guy.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 10, 2016, 07:14:04 AM
If that's not Michael in disguise, that guy is being paid by him. I will have to rewatch this later, does anyone have any logical non-hoax related explanation for this shit?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 11, 2016, 03:35:01 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPeW6rveiRA This is unreal.............Just can't say much about this.
Drs orders!

Video doesn't seem to be public, it was only viewed 89 times since August 2013. Where did you get it [member=17024]Unbreakable1[/member] ?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 11, 2016, 03:42:14 AM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWiuVxlowvs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: mattie on September 11, 2016, 08:32:42 AM
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWiuVxlowvs[/youtube]

One of the comments below the video.
quote: HA!!! I met the real doctor when I was in Florida, this is something or somebody els, but who????

Yes ,,who is it  :icon_geek:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 11, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWiuVxlowvs[/youtube]

One of the comments below the video.
quote: HA!!! I met the real doctor when I was in Florida, this is something or somebody els, but who????

Yes ,,who is it  :icon_geek:
LOL
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 11, 2016, 10:39:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPeW6rveiRA This is unreal.............Just can't say much about this.
Drs orders!

Video doesn't seem to be public, it was only viewed 89 times since August 2013. Where did you get it [member=17024]Unbreakable1[/member] ?
Was doing some research on Jack crooner and Found this video,it just popped up,also look at the director he is new as well only has a few videos. These videos have a feel of the videos in this is it black and white like Gilda, mixed with new. The styles are very similar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1uMuIYWoy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGkfdye8c8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWiuVxlowvs
last video he says"We got work to do for peeps sake we're Jacks concience!"Green screen I have seen that before.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 12, 2016, 02:37:32 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPeW6rveiRA This is unreal.............Just can't say much about this.
Drs orders!

Video doesn't seem to be public, it was only viewed 89 times since August 2013. Where did you get it [member=17024]Unbreakable1[/member] ?
Was doing some research on Jack crooner and Found this video,it just popped up,also look at the director he is new as well only has a few videos. These videos have a feel of the videos in this is it black and white like Gilda, mixed with new. The styles are very similar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1uMuIYWoy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGkfdye8c8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWiuVxlowvs
last video he says"We got work to do for peeps sake we're Jacks concience!"Green screen I have seen that before.
That is indeed what he says. Weird stuff for sure.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 12, 2016, 02:42:36 AM
Definition of Jack according to the urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jack 😂😂
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: RK on September 12, 2016, 08:59:43 AM
Very appropriate that he covers I've Got You Under My Skin.
 I think it really is the case, behind the mask, so to speak.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 12, 2016, 11:08:34 AM
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Very appropriate that he covers I've Got You Under My Skin.
 I think it really is the case, behind the mask, so to speak.
Good one!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 12, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
(https://s12.postimg.org/hqkyv5m7t/Cm_MOl_Gj_XEAAJSi_T.jpg)
(https://s12.postimg.org/yfmer2it5/Cp_FJ_x_WWYAAZXo_D.jpg)
(https://s12.postimg.org/bffreqkzd/Cp_FJx_MEXYAAFv_d.jpg)
Crooner since Michaels "death" has been in the news and spoke about Michael,his chin did not look as it looks now,If this is the man. Then he is not afraid,Ever since the pictures on the boat he has blown up.
Many music videos  even movies Blood Dept. and director. Sounds like Michael is doing what he always wanted and he don't need to sign a contract and be told what to do anymore.He is doing what he wants. Soaring like a black eagle.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Claudiamezz on September 12, 2016, 11:47:17 PM
I saw on Facebook, I don't know if this is his real Facebook account https://www.facebook.com/A.J.Farshchian?fref=ts but apparently he's recently engaged! I don't know if that means that A.J Farschians is engaged or Michael is, but someone apparently is,
It could be a fake account, I don't know. :moonwalk_: :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 16, 2016, 02:48:24 PM
I was checking Jack Crooners facebook  and he has posted some new pictures with black hair now(https://s9.postimg.org/5j86x9gzf/14264840_10157576128395294_1920298404686957273_n.jpg)(https://s22.postimg.org/887mbwkot/14330042_1095604570487079_5576719549548418236_n.jpg). Which is fine but AJ Farshchians facebook had this strange picture which just caught my attention why post this specific picture even if it is photoshopped?(https://s14.postimg.org/e93xt3ua5/13962497_243471209379927_6166067868505954056_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 16, 2016, 04:07:07 PM
OMG face-eater alert! Hahaha!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: micasjas on September 16, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
I really should start reading up on all those names.
I don't understand the big deal here (but that is my ignorance)

That guy Farshchian, didn't he play Jack Crooner on Ratpack
(According to IMDB) so ofcourse it would be one and the same person right?! That lady is a co-star.

In any case I think he looks strange. Sorry if those are his real looks but it seems his face is too made up, not natural. Like plastic. Too perfect like Ken from Barbie. Those type of men that spends hours looking in the mirror or plastic surgeon. Too slick and sneaky.

Just watched the video's and the guy can't sing, that is for sure. I think he is just a doctor trying to make it big because of his connection with MJ and MJ family who have the right connections. That combined with the fact that people think he is MJ himself says "Milk it for all it is worth" any day. The reason why he has such a strange accent is because he is from Iranian decent.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Starchild on September 18, 2016, 02:26:27 AM
Looking at all the photos of this person, there appears to be two different people. It seems that one person is the real AJ Farshchian/Jack Crooner, and the other, for whatever the reason, dresses himself up to look like the real one. The real one has a stockier build, particularly in the upper body, than does the impersonator, who has a more slender build overall (like MJ). The impersonator's chin is different, i.e., the cleft is there but not as pronounced as that of the real person. And the impersonator's head and neck appear to be disproportionate to the body.

Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: RK on September 18, 2016, 10:46:04 AM
^^. And the impersonator's head and neck appear to be disproportionate to the body.^^
Great summary.  That head is really large and the chins are really different.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: curls on September 19, 2016, 02:46:45 AM
I haven't watched all the videos here, as I'm not spending much time on MJ at the moment but does anyone remember seeing an interview he did, I can't recall when or with who, where the interviewer mentioned Dr Farshchian and MJ looked surprised and asked 'How do you know about Dr Farshchian?' (with a sort of knowing smile, reminiscent of 02 guy's unfinished 'This is really it, because ...' comment!)  It's always stuck in my mind, as if there was more to this man than Michael was letting on!  Maybe nothing, but could be something was in the pipeline long ago.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 19, 2016, 05:29:20 AM
The one with the blue background you mean? Where he starts laughing when they mention Farschian?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: curls on September 19, 2016, 05:43:13 AM
I can't remember if there was a blue background Souza, but that might be the one I'm thinking of. Do you remember who the interview was with or when it was? I'd love to find it again!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 19, 2016, 08:29:23 AM
Search YouTube for Michael Jackson and then Sun 2007. You should find it then.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 19, 2016, 09:22:04 AM
(http://s15.postimg.org/cg2muqx87/10290666_10154144626250294_4872281982211350578_n.jpg)
Just like liberian girl hes behind the camera!
Who is he recording there,looks like Alex Farshchian?
(http://s12.postimg.org/6tsnbnfnd/download_4.jpg)
(http://s15.postimg.org/4olww6t2v/11406213_10155819262920294_8288168239646035319_o.jpg)
He even has updated the jacket.
(http://s15.postimg.org/w0h5xixtj/11889591_10156078032800294_5121776447575761344_n.jpg)
He does look different just like Dave Dave looked different from larry king,to other interviews i seen with Dave Dave,Look at this letter by Dr. Alex Farshchian to Michael "
Dearest MJ
Hi and how are you,

I am not sure if you received my package earlier, so I am sending it again.

It's a 5-7 day program that offers you the solution.

Buprinex is the potent narcotic I told you about last week. It is just like the D but better.

I have everything ready. This is it. Do it before you start your second chapter. You are the best, you are an ICON, and you belong to the TOPS. "U ain't seen nothing yet." Let's do it as soon as possible. Read the attached and call me. "
Did anyone anyone Michael lived in his garage? The doctor continued by saying that he’d converted his garage into a bedroom for Michael and he lives in North Miami Beach, Bay Harbor Island. He said there was a period of time Michael stayed with Dr Farshchian. He stayed twice, once with the children.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: curls on September 19, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
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Search YouTube for Michael Jackson and then Sun 2007. You should find it then.

No, Farshchian is mentioned on the blue background one (Sun 2007), but that's not the one I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: loyalfan on September 19, 2016, 03:35:58 PM
is there a thread to discuss this video,which i strongly believe is michael?????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz0POn53gek
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: micasjas on September 19, 2016, 05:32:18 PM
I see now that it doesn't look like the real Farshchian hackse of the chin mostly. But his voice and accent are not even close to MJ's obviously when I hear him singing. You can't learn such a very strong different accent (which does match Iranian) and talk like that for ever I think. Of course the songs could be prerecorded and playbacked but what if some interviewer would ask him questions spontaneously when he was out performing? After a while you should start hearing words pronounced different or voice changes.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on September 20, 2016, 04:38:13 AM
I just don't see it honestly. And I don't hear it. There's too much focus on this person imo.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 20, 2016, 05:50:24 AM
It's the only thing to focus on atm is the problem. Plus that letter of him still is weird.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: RK on September 20, 2016, 06:21:39 AM
You got to admit it is entertaining though.
The really tight band that is fronted by a singer with some peculiar ways and style of delivery and a very unique voice [ I am trying to be nice] just makes this a theater of the absurd.  :ghsdf:

I can't manage to sit through one of these professionally made videos without cracking up in laughter the minute the singing begins.
Then throw in the hoax connections, the family and associates,  and well...I'm entertained.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: micasjas on September 20, 2016, 06:59:11 AM
Hahaha I agree RK !!!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 20, 2016, 08:22:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_kjz9a7Xrs I believe the voice is part of the illusion! I do not agree that he cannot sing there are times he can hold a note really well.
The songs are recorded Beautifully. He is not singing these are videos,anyone can be singing and lip sync to these songs.
Plus has anyone actually gone in and watched these people perform? How does a video camera record your own face when you are behind it recording? (http://s11.postimg.org/3vxxjmnpr/11406213_10155819262920294_8288168239646035319_o.jpg)  :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Kim on September 20, 2016, 09:53:46 AM
Hi,

Jack and Michael did know eachother...

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/935522_519292354798933_1052248411_n.jpg?oh=dc4abf8e8c3218fe066df88317a6b676&oe=5869D3B8

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10325284_745716488792922_466975483640243194_n.jpg?oh=6b9006ffb8b144034cb79c2aa99ee42d&oe=583BD531

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/543246_2225538695825_396769386_n.jpg?oh=f802c10cc313c382bbd58d93287eb98b&oe=5881F019
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: micasjas on September 20, 2016, 10:13:25 AM
But in those pictures at least he looks like an Iranian and more like a human being.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: micasjas on September 20, 2016, 10:22:37 AM
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It's the only thing to focus on atm is the problem. Plus that letter of him still is weird.
You probably already read this Souza. But it gives a little more insight to the letter. Thought it seemed logical if you are addicted to slowly loose the addiction.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-beach-doctor-prescribed-michael-jackson-drugs-but-was-he-trying-to-help-6530563
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 20, 2016, 10:49:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJvUf6bLBw
There are huge differences between the 2 of these guys.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: mattie on September 20, 2016, 01:22:41 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_kjz9a7Xrs I believe the voice is part of the illusion! I do not agree that he cannot sing there are times he can hold a note really well.
The songs are recorded Beautifully. He is not singing these are videos,anyone can be singing and lip sync to these songs.
Plus has anyone actually gone in and watched these people perform? How does a video camera record your own face when you are behind it recording? (http://s11.postimg.org/3vxxjmnpr/11406213_10155819262920294_8288168239646035319_o.jpg)  :michael-jackson:
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Agree with you.
I am sure he can do a lot better!!! You can hear it. :icon_cool:
It's funny to see how he pretends to be someone who can't sing, and he gets away with it.
I don't see many question marks of people at these videos. only people who think he is Michael.
And I am just curious how he gets that his voice sounds like that of the real doctor?
i have searched the internet, but could not find how they do that
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 20, 2016, 01:36:43 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_kjz9a7Xrs I believe the voice is part of the illusion! I do not agree that he cannot sing there are times he can hold a note really well.
The songs are recorded Beautifully. He is not singing these are videos,anyone can be singing and lip sync to these songs.
Plus has anyone actually gone in and watched these people perform? How does a video camera record your own face when you are behind it recording? (http://s11.postimg.org/3vxxjmnpr/11406213_10155819262920294_8288168239646035319_o.jpg)  :michael-jackson:
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Agree with you.
I am sure he can do a lot better!!! You can hear it. :icon_cool:
It's funny to see how he pretends to be someone who can't sing, and he gets away with it.
I don't see many question marks of people at these videos. only people who think he is Michael.
And I am just curious how he gets that his voice sounds like that of the real doctor?
i have searched the internet, but could not find how they do that
I will tell you how it could be done. They use the real Dr. to sing the songs they make him sound excellent in the studio like they do to Brittany Spears "have you ever heard her sing live? No me either "shrugs". Then in comes Jack to do his part and perform the songs in videos. Seems simple I have filmed short movies and done similar things. :ghsdf:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Kim on September 20, 2016, 03:09:11 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJvUf6bLBw
There are huge differences between the 2 of these guys.

Then with who did I became friends on FB? Haha... The Jack on FB looks like the left one.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Kim on September 20, 2016, 03:20:38 PM
I have to admit...he seems sometimes a little bit different in the pictures.
And it's odd that there are (music) video's on youtube but no video's of an interview with this man.
I did have read the comments on FB that people posted on the pics with Michael...and his (Jack, AJ, Alex...whatever LOL) daughter said that her father was Michael's doctor in 2001.
I don't know...it's possible but why mention it now?
Have you guys ever heard of Jack Crooner being Michael's doctor?
I mean...the most doctors are known if they have had Michael as a patiënt.

Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: mattie on September 20, 2016, 04:45:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_kjz9a7Xrs I believe the voice is part of the illusion! I do not agree that he cannot sing there are times he can hold a note really well.
The songs are recorded Beautifully. He is not singing these are videos,anyone can be singing and lip sync to these songs.
Plus has anyone actually gone in and watched these people perform? How does a video camera record your own face when you are behind it recording? (http://s11.postimg.org/3vxxjmnpr/11406213_10155819262920294_8288168239646035319_o.jpg)  :michael-jackson:
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Agree with you.
I am sure he can do a lot better!!! You can hear it. :icon_cool:
It's funny to see how he pretends to be someone who can't sing, and he gets away with it.
I don't see many question marks of people at these videos. only people who think he is Michael.
And I am just curious how he gets that his voice sounds like that of the real doctor?
i have searched the internet, but could not find how they do that
I will tell you how it could be done. They use the real Dr. to sing the songs they make him sound excellent in the studio like they do to Brittany Spears "have you ever heard her sing live? No me either "shrugs". Then in comes Jack to do his part and perform the songs in videos. Seems simple I have filmed short movies and done similar things. :ghsdf:

Thank you for your respons.
I think you are right and it sounds logical in case of the video's.
But i saw Omar Bhatti and Jack Crooner on a boat and i think prince was there,talking to fans.
That is were i thought okay.maybe there are way's and with a lot of training???
But i could not find anything that good on the internet?
Here is a video, i think at the end at 156 is what i was talking about.
I could not find the original,but i did not looke very much(no time)
[youtube]https://youtu.be/SivV8UrQAAs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 21, 2016, 01:12:13 PM
Just wanted to show another coincidence  :D in the video "The lady is a Tramp". 13 seconds in, a lady Michael look-alike passes Crooner and he stares right at her. Just wanted to show this.(http://s22.postimg.org/5ea4dqmql/WHAT.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 21, 2016, 01:54:28 PM
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Just wanted to show another coincidence  :D in the video "The lady is a Tramp". 13 seconds in, a lady Michael look-alike passes Crooner and he stares right at her in shock. Just wanted to show this.(http://s22.postimg.org/5ea4dqmql/WHAT.jpg)

I honestly don't see any of that. How does she look like Michael Jackson?
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on September 21, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Its a likeness. (http://s16.postimg.org/5xs60ptz5/download_5.jpg) Its ok we all are not going to see things the same way. Thats why I said look alike.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: loyalfan on September 21, 2016, 02:16:09 PM
after watching the video,and seeing the "real" doctor that this is "supposed" to be.......i seriously wonder if it really is michael because....the real doctor is a different shape....is not as slim...is not as tall....and why would he have the inclination to make a singing video?? the body movememnts when he is "supposedly" being taught to dance......is very like micheal.....imho of course xxx
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 21, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
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the body movememnts when he is "supposedly" being taught to dance......is very like micheal.....imho of course xxx

I know which part you mean and that is a dead giveaway I think. That's a dancer's walk, not some nerdy, white doctor's walk.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Kim on September 26, 2016, 06:48:11 AM
Look how he put his fedora on his head at 1.32...haha

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV_qEU5_48g[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on October 27, 2016, 08:52:14 AM
Jack Crooner
23 hrs ·
Due to popular demand and many of you fans asking me, we are going to use FACEBOOK LIVE This Sunday on the 30th at 7:30 pm as I'm dedicating the big show to the greatest entertainer ever lived: Mr. Michael Jackson. This will also give us an opportunity to settle certain rumors straight. Please share this info at every MJ's blog and forum, and share it on your walls.
(http://s10.postimg.org/vhh68jmid/14702420_10157785429970294_9001665467078176697_n.jpg)
Looking forward to seeing how this goes,see you on sunday!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Annabelle on October 27, 2016, 03:18:27 PM
Oh, God! I guess it may be something very, very interesting and... what if this is our big "bam"? Or just a clue? I can't wait to see it! :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: DarryLarryMarryJerry on October 27, 2016, 08:41:25 PM
Can someone pleeeeeeeeeease upload the Facebook stream to YouTube at some point after its done? I unfortunately can't watch Live streams on this device. I have a feeling some clues will be dropped during it. Even If this guy says he isn't Michael I still think something "Death Hoax" related will happen during it.        :moonwalk_:          :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on October 28, 2016, 09:08:38 AM
https://www.facebook.com/A.J.Farshchian/videos/10157770713680294/ (https://www.facebook.com/A.J.Farshchian/videos/10157770713680294/)

Thats life
Lyrics
That's life (that's life) that's what people say
You're riding high in April
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June

I said, that's life (that's life) and as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks
Stompin' on a dream
But I don't let it, let it get me down
'Cause this fine old world it keeps spinnin' around

I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate
A poet, a pawn and a king
I've been up and down and over and out
And I know one thing
Each time I find myself flat on my face
I pick myself up and get back in the race

That's life (that's life) I tell ya, I can't deny it
I thought of quitting, baby
But my heart just ain't gonna buy it
And if I didn't think it was worth one single try
I'd jump right on a big bird and then I'd fly

I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate
A poet, a pawn and a king
I've been up and down and over and out
And I know one thing
Each time I find myself layin' flat on my face
I just pick myself up and get back in the race

That's life (that's life) that's life
And I can't deny it
Many times I thought of cuttin' out but my heart won't buy it
But if there's nothing shakin' come here this July
I'm gonna roll myself up in a big ball and die
My, my
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiUqfxFttM

JACK CROONER SAYS Again due to the complexity of the big show tomorrow, we have produced a special page. Make sure you tune in at 7:30 EST as we are paying special to MJ. This is whats writen not my words.

Jack crooner says "Almost Show time!"
https://www.facebook.com/jackcroonerofficial/videos/1684140701899579/

For those who missed Crooners live show   :animal0017: I am still wondering where was the audience? He has his fingers taped like MJ? There have been a lot of rumors over the years as to why MJ taped the tips of his fingers before concerts, but music supervisor Michael Bearden actually asked the man himself to get the truth. "That was one of the things I asked him," Bearden said. "And he said, 'Because it feels good.' And then when he throws his hand a certain way, the white catches your eye. So if you're doing that" — [shoots his hand into the air, à la MJ] — "automatically, you're gonna look right there. It's just a show thing."   This place was dead like Crooners jokes......This does not feel real to me, Also Crooner was there at Berlin in Michaels hotel room to see the blanket incident. Jack Crooner says "Good morning you all beautiful people, I wanted to take a moment and thank you all for last night, we had so much fun, it was so exciting to talk to you all. I must apologize however as it all went so fast I didn't get an opportunity to give shout out to each and everyone of you. But I promise I will make it up to you as I have already started working on the production of"The Jack Crooner Show" a half hour live program. Stay tuned as I will make future announcements regarding the show and it's format."
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ViickJackson on November 02, 2016, 06:19:53 PM
JACK IS BAD SING  :screaming-7365:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 03, 2016, 01:26:33 AM
You know the main reason I think this might be Michael is because of the ridiculousness of all of this. It's too crazy to be real you would think. But looking at those first few minutes.... cracker ain't got no swag! If that's MJ either his old age is making him move like a white man in his 90's or he deserves an Academy Award for best actor. The singing is weird. It sounds like he could perfectly hold a note but fucks it up on purpose. I don't know. Sometimes I think I died long ago and now live in some alternate reality or something. The world is crazy so who knows this guy might be for real.

 :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on November 03, 2016, 06:46:35 AM
Every time I try to watch the FB video it stops after 10 seconds and says 'this video can't be played'. But I have to say, he looks so different here from some of the other video's. The posture and the long hands. Even my biggest doubt, the shape of his mouth, is less obvious here. So it does make one wonder. But the purpose of all of this if true is completely beyond me  :elvis-1405:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on November 04, 2016, 08:29:33 AM
(https://s12.postimg.org/h7jbsy59l/14595830_701594079988901_2827744061056781196_n.jpg)
Can everyone analize this photo as the eyes look so similar. I am in no way trying to sway anyone's opinion on this, i just find this whole thing strange. Sort of the same way i feel about Conrad Murray whenever i see him pop up. This guy who also IS A DR. as well, Contradicts himself constantly just like Murray and this show is so unreal!, I have no idea whats the deal with doing this but all I keep thinking is he said in This is it,that he would play with them a little bit. So maybe he is just having his fun?
Now hes saying"The great American Songbook will return to the stage on Saturday the 26th due to popular demand. The show will be broadcasted live again. Stay tuned for more information.Here is an update: We will have a surprise special guest in the upcoming show.".  :animal0017:
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: mattie on November 04, 2016, 04:36:25 PM

 

 the body movememnts when he is "supposedly" being taught to dance......is very like micheal.....imho of course xxx quote

I know which part you mean and that is a dead giveaway I think. That's a dancer's walk, not some nerdy, white doctor's walk. quote

 But looking at those first few minutes.... cracker ain't got no swag! If that's MJ either his old age is making him move like a white man in his 90's or he deserves an Academy Award for best actor. quote

Confusing huh,..... :icon_e_geek:.... hahaha

Wenn i wach this video, I sit and wonder who are the people in the audience?
Family and friends?
Because I can not imagine if you paid for this show and sit it out, you are looking forward to the next time.
Therefore also what about the reputation of the Orchestra, which is a good Orchestra.
I come from a family of musicians, and if my father had such a singer in the band he was exit very fast.
That is why I dont believe this club or audience is real.




Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on November 07, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
Jack Crooner: New update: A new rendition of one MJ songs will be ready for the show.
I wonder if it will be be I wanna be where you are! ......Come on this has to be something,he is actually announcing these things. Only 500 people watched this live and it says due to popular demand! It is so out there there has to be something to all this.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: iamhere4mj on November 14, 2016, 09:42:21 PM
I found this video of Omar and Farshchian, not sure if it shows hair dye/makeup that is running and rubber from the mask bunching up but I haven't seen this on him before.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7sv_glfldg[/youtube]

Published on Aug 30, 2016

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Clueless101/aj_zps7w328jli.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/Clueless101/media/aj_zps7w328jli.jpg.html)


Love you Michael!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: iamhere4mj on November 14, 2016, 09:54:04 PM
And I also thought it was interesting about the clothing; it made me think of This Is It and how Michael only seemed to wear certain outfits.

Not sure how many of you have noticed that Farshchian wears two different ties; one is a bow tie and the other is a necktie. Early on in the hoax we had a lawyer who only wore bow ties (not saying that has anything to do with this, but thought it odd). Farshchian wears the bow ties for his professional videos on line and mostly wears the necktie when creating the music videos and when with the kids.

Love you Michael!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on November 16, 2016, 05:27:32 AM
I don't think the person in the latest video in this thread is Michael. Again, because of the mouth. But also his hands, are very different. But what keeps me interested is other sightings, where the doctor is much thinner than in this video.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on November 16, 2016, 02:42:42 PM
(https://s3.postimg.org/ah1p7jyz3/14963240_10157878604015294_5244502606966669087_n.jpg) Here's Jack at "Make a wish ball" his legs look thin. To me there really seems to be two of these jacks running around because the difference is very noticeable. Especially painting your hair blond and going back to black. Is not something you would want to be doing time after time. Your hair would fall out. Anyway looking forward to the next show and what new Michael Jackson song he is going to sing or destroy depends how you look at it.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Carrie on November 17, 2016, 09:02:08 AM
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Anyway looking forward to the next show and what new Michael Jackson song he is going to sing or destroy depends how you look at it.

This made me giggle. I saw the show and know what you're talking about. Lol.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: skyways on November 21, 2016, 07:20:42 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJvUf6bLBw
There are huge differences between the 2 of these guys.

Then with who did I became friends on FB? Haha... The Jack on FB looks like the left one.


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Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Realdeal on November 23, 2016, 05:34:48 AM
That YT channel is there for one thing only: generate views thus income by sensationalising the hoax with clickbait titles.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: MJFollower on November 26, 2016, 07:01:31 PM
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That YT channel is there for one thing only: generate views thus income by sensationalising the hoax with clickbait titles.
Thank God. Words of sanity.


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Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: iamhere4mj on November 26, 2016, 10:07:46 PM
Not sure how many tuned in for this, but it was weird.

First this should be a band that is singing Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin but instead talks about what happened in 2003, dating Joanna, Tom Sneddon and then has an Q & A section at the end of the show with a 'special guest' that is in dark shadows dancing like Michael.

During the Q & A section, the believers were mentioned because the question was 'is Michael Jackson alive?' Answer from Jack: of course he's alive! He then went on to make it sound as though Michael is alive in our hearts and then shouting out Michael Jackson is # 1 and then this guy starts dancing.

The oddest moment is when Jack yells cut the feed, cut the feed and then the show just ended!  :thjajaja121:

I did however get the feeling we were being told of a comeback.

Love you Michael!
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on November 27, 2016, 11:07:13 AM
It's getting too ridiculous. I agree there are some strange pictures and videos, but this is egging people on a I doubt he's behind that. Crooner seems to have an audience with the believers and he likes the attention. Plus he's raping Sinatra songs and that is just a no-go. Come on.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Unbreakable777 on November 28, 2016, 08:56:23 AM
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It's getting too ridiculous. I agree there are some strange pictures and videos, but this is egging people on a I doubt he's behind that. Crooner seems to have an audience with the believers and he likes the attention. Plus he's raping Sinatra songs and that is just a no-go. Come on.
I agree this is ridiculous,but that to me is what makes it worth looking into. We have not had anyone actually tell us personal stuff about Michael, he is personally speaking to the believers we never got anything like this  throughout the whole hoax.This little show is about Michael, i feel reading between the lines Crooner is telling us big clues! For anyone who has not seen it,keep a open mind and listen you may find there is more to it than the singing. The words to the songs speak as well though. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Believe hes doing it for free to benefit for more popularity or is he doing it to get a message out ?
https://www.facebook.com/jackcroonerofficial/videos/1698808627099453/
Michael was a headerasexual male,we have always known that,he tries to confirm that. Is Michael Jackson alive? Of course hes Alive,Michael Jackson is Alive!He has always been Alive! Hes with us! Hes here! He all over! Michael Jackson is number one! straight enough answer there so many other words he could have used but he said alive 3 times! not in spirit once.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Otorten on October 11, 2023, 01:36:06 PM
Hi! I am very new in this forum and in hoax theories. But just wanted to say I appreciate and share many many many things that were posted here. I am researching still, but it felt nice that totally independently other people noticed the same inconsistencies.

Sometimes I feel all this hoax theory is unreal, but somehow it gives me a nice feeling to know that MJ can be alive. Life is always a better thing!

Jack Crooner raised my suspicion too, but sadly he disappeared from active streaming or making music videos. I noticed he invites to join him on some other social media, but I couldn't install it somehow  :-\ it would be nice to investigate more, but I have a feeling he doesn't want it atm
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 11, 2023, 02:02:38 PM
Welcome Otorten, there is lots of information to discover here!


I personally don't think the whole Jack Crooner thing is of much interest to be honest but there seem to be a lot of people who do.
Title: Re: Jack Crooner, Miami Rat Pack
Post by: Otorten on October 11, 2023, 02:12:07 PM
I understand, I am like 7 years late when Jack Crooner was interesting, lol

But just to say - from a very fresh, not hoaxed mind, Jack Crooner looks very strange. I don't know if it's MJ ( doubts are: why to invest time into so fake singing, making streams for very few people, foundations, that don't function any longer..?), but it's also hardly Dr. AJ, though he looks alike, but it's not the same person to my eyes.

I am exploring the forum and it really helps me escape the reality of this crazy moment in the world. Looks like Heal the World is a very tough mission at this time of worldwide mutual hatred   :(
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