Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Revisiting Old Stuff => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on August 21, 2016, 05:16:05 AM

Title: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 21, 2016, 05:16:05 AM
As you can all see is our hoax recap about 6 years old. I would like to make a new, updated one but I need your help. We are 7 years in now so we should be able to make a good recap with everything that is really odd. Not vague clues, but really weird stuff or facts. Like the Joe - Joseph thing, the elephant in the court room, the 'alleged victim' in the verdict etc. When the old recap was made, the trial still had to start. I'd like to gather all the good info in this thread and make a new recap + video to go with it. Check the board index (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?action=forum#forum) for key events to help you remember. Let's make something the non-believers can't get around!
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 21, 2016, 05:16:38 AM
Good thread to include: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=24712.0
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: RK on August 30, 2016, 08:30:28 AM
When we think of the hoax beginnings, we usually start with the O2 announcement, but there were a few interesting things from December in '08.

- There was a call to a radio station in Dec '08 claiming MJ had died of a drug overdose. News  and local TV stations were reporting it before it was discovered to be a hoax.

- Halporin wrote on his blog site that Michael had only 6 months left to live in Dec '08. The blog entry was picked up by news outlets around the globe. The enquirer ran the story  on Jan 7th.  As Halporin predicted,  6 months later, Michael was gone [from public life]

-The surveilance tapes from the night/ day when Michael supposedly died went  missing or perhaps never existed.

- The pepsi burn video suddenly appears online.

I will add more later when time permits.





Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: DarryLarryMarryJerry on August 31, 2016, 07:03:47 PM
Would Back be considered really weird? If im being completely honest he is the one who gave me hope and made me believe there was something more going on (MJ Being alive) I'd also ask if we could go "Back" over his stuff 7 years later with what has happend since he was last looked at.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 01, 2016, 09:59:21 AM
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Would Back be considered really weird? If im being completely honest he is the one who gave me hope and made me believe there was something more going on (MJ Being alive) I'd also ask if we could go "Back" over his stuff 7 years later with what has happend since he was last looked at.

Yes if you mean the real Back and not Front, then definitely interesting. Not sure if it's something for in a recap, but it's always worth looking back into, you can find all his posts right here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php/board,295.0.html#forum
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 01, 2016, 10:14:29 AM
Just before I forget: the 'I'm alive and here forever' statement at the memorial.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: DarryLarryMarryJerry on September 01, 2016, 10:53:32 AM
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Would Back be considered really weird? If im being completely honest he is the one who gave me hope and made me believe there was something more going on (MJ Being alive) I'd also ask if we could go "Back" over his stuff 7 years later with what has happend since he was last looked at.

Yes if you mean the real Back and not Front, then definitely interesting. Not sure if it's something for in a recap, but it's always worth looking back into, you can find all his posts right here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php/board,295.0.html#forum
Yeah I mean THE Back. Not "Front" Or "Frontback777"
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 16, 2016, 07:47:58 PM
Souza, for an orderly contribution & collection I think you should create headers, which MJDHI members can submit facts, such as:

Pre death clues
Events around death
Funeral
Memorial
This is it
Family
Trial

(Just an idea, probably forgotten other important headers)

This may jog the memory,  ensure that nothing is forgotten and make a hell of a list for the 'deaders' to reconcile...
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 17, 2016, 12:08:59 AM
Great idea!
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: RK on September 19, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
The lead up to D day......some thoughts to jog our memories.

Please add to the list in this thread.

pre death clues in the movie Moonwalker / and Liberian girl with MJ behind the camera.

MJ removes the veils from his children in public just prior to the hoax start.

Media was fed pictures of MJ in wheelchairs and there were accompaning reports of his failing health, including his need for lung transplants /  intestinal bleeding/ a flesh eating disease and headlines stating  he'll be dead within 6 months. This was from Dec '08.

Then we have  conflicting reports from Lou Ferrigno who was training him that he was in perfect shape,

MJ had also passed a five hour physical for insurance purposes for the tour TII.

And two days before his 'death', we see footage of a healthy and lucid MJ dancing up a storm for TII rehearsals.

O2 anouncement and that weird behavior ....Is there a line in that strange speech where the double ( a debatable topic) says 'I'm so dead'

As well as the physical health rumours, there were also rampant financial health stories circulating at this time. Some fuelled by Nanny Grace that MJ couldn't even afford to buy balloons for Paris's birthday party.    The illusion of a poor Michael was being shoen to the world while he was in truth worth millions possibly billions.

MJ had a vault of unreleased recordings ready that will see many albums released 'cough' posthumously.

Branca was brought back on board. I need to research this to make certain, but I think there is an Elvis connection with Branca and he would be knowledgable with a hoaxed death  scenario.

Speaking of Elvis, Lisa said that Michael told her He was going to end up going out the same way her father did.





Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: julianaMjj on September 21, 2016, 09:30:48 PM
The similarity, the same mistakes between Elvis and Michael.
The phrase said by Mike for teddy riley: I'm going to shock the world just watch.
The words Latoya at the funeral.

 :michael_jackson-1135: :elvis-1405:
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Thriller4ever on September 24, 2016, 02:11:10 AM
Events around death.

1) TMZ reports earlier than the actual death announcement.

2) TMZ is the first to report everything.

3) 911 call made from Beverly hills. Michael's name not mentioned in the call.

4) CM resuscitates MJ on bed for a long time.. ( i can't remember how long he resuscitates...)

5) Surveillance tapes missing (mentioned by RK)

6) Ambulance waits for tourist bus to leave first. Sirens are off.

7) Ambulance photo is fake. It is confirmed lawyer Brian Oxman.

8) Ben Evenstad says 'the other day' in an interview hinting at a possible staging of pictures.

9) Michael supposedly 'thanks' Randy Phillips and says that 'he can take it from here.'

10) Helicopter moving body video.

11) Latoya mentioned in the death certificate instead of Conrad Murray, the doctor.

12) Name is wrongly mentioned in death certificate and autopsy report as Michael JOSEPH Jackson.

13) Death announcement made by Jermaine Jackson.

14) Strange pictures posted by TMZ such as MJ's coffin having legs and MJ holding a remote control on his history album cover.

15) Cash goes missing from Carolwood house.

16) The house is not sealed off as a crime scene. The family moves freely in and out of the house.

17) Katherine Jackson is seen shopping for sleeping bags.

18) A missing flight from LAX to Mexico.

19) Jermaine's radio interview "way before he arrived to the airport..i mean the hospital".

20) Forest Lawn denies having MJ at their facility.

21) Fake Burial.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: RK on September 24, 2016, 10:22:32 AM
[imgleft]http://i39.tinypic.com/oqkew2.jpg[/imgleft]

Been thinking about this pic taken from the MJ who was photographed leaving Arnie Klein's offices
 and the MJ(s) in TII didn't have an ear like this one.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Carrie on September 24, 2016, 11:21:31 AM
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Just before I forget: the 'I'm alive and here forever' statement at the memorial.

Jermaine changing the lyrics when singing "Smile" by Charlie Chaplin at the memorial;
He sang; "Light up your face with sadness, Hide every trace of gladness." When the lyrics goes like; "Light up your face with gladness, Hide every trace of sadness."

Kenny Ortega in his introduction at the memorial July 7th;
"A week ago and Michael was with us." Although Michael "supposedly" had died two weeks earlier.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Thriller4ever on September 24, 2016, 12:36:23 PM
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[imgleft]http://i39.tinypic.com/oqkew2.jpg[/imgleft]

Been thinking about this pic taken from the MJ who was photographed leaving Arnie Klein's offices
 and the MJ(s) in TII didn't have an ear like this one.

his ear looks more like it's been roughly cut in a photo-editor. The boundaries seem too straight and angular.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Thriller4ever on September 27, 2016, 05:28:52 AM
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Just before I forget: the 'I'm alive and here forever' statement at the memorial.

Jermaine changing the lyrics when singing "Smile" by Charlie Chaplin at the memorial;
He sang; "Light up your face with sadness, Hide every trace of gladness." When the lyrics goes like; "Light up your face with gladness, Hide every trace of sadness."

Kenny Ortega in his introduction at the memorial July 7th;
"A week ago and Michael was with us." Although Michael "supposedly" had died two weeks earlier.

Also,

- Prince seen chewing a bubble gum during the memorial
- "Soon we will see the king" was sung.
- Liberian Girl pictures were used for the memorial (and burial)
- Closed casket.
- Real friends of Michael were absent, ie, Elizabeth Taylor, Diana Ross, and Macaulay Culkin.
- Elephants seen parading outside the staples center a few hours before the memorial.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 29, 2016, 06:16:31 AM
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Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 29, 2016, 06:24:33 AM
Also, I'd like to set up a small group of people that help me put it all together, like a brainstorm group. RK and I are brainstorming a lot now, but we can definitely use one or two more people for input, or maybe even some more. Let me know if you're interested.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Thriller4ever on September 29, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
happy to help
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 09, 2016, 11:43:22 AM
[member=12263]Thriller4ever[/member] and [member=1050]RK[/member] are on board, I need people who can gather info on a specific topic. Anyone who wants to help is welcome, this time I would mainly like to mold in into some sort of documentary because long pages of texts are not very popular unfortunately. I have the intro done, RK has seen it, but now I would like to start to fill the video with info. Whoever helps will be named specifically in the credits besides the community as a whole, unless you don't want to of course. Does everyone think the outline that I posted earlier is OK or does anyone have to add to that?

Let's make this happen, it's not like we have much else to do (hoax wise!).
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: Carrie on October 11, 2016, 09:56:34 AM
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Just before I forget: the 'I'm alive and here forever' statement at the memorial.

Jermaine changing the lyrics when singing "Smile" by Charlie Chaplin at the memorial;
He sang; "Light up your face with sadness, Hide every trace of gladness." When the lyrics goes like; "Light up your face with gladness, Hide every trace of sadness."

Kenny Ortega in his introduction at the memorial July 7th;
"A week ago and Michael was with us." Although Michael "supposedly" had died two weeks earlier.

Also,

- Prince seen chewing a bubble gum during the memorial
- "Soon we will see the king" was sung.
- Liberian Girl pictures were used for the memorial (and burial)
- Closed casket.
- Real friends of Michael were absent, ie, Elizabeth Taylor, Diana Ross, and Macaulay Culkin.
- Elephants seen parading outside the staples center a few hours before the memorial.

- Paris earpiece and her look at Janet for approval of her speech and fake tears.
- "Pains" instead of "Pain" at the spoken end of Will You Be There.
- Wasn't there something about the dance, symbol or meaning,  done during Jennifer Hudson's performance of Will You Be There?
- "I'm Alive & here forever."
- Backstage photos of family and artists participating smiling.
- Someone in the audience, from the second row, give the family & artists thumbs up during "we are the world" & "Heal the world" at the end of the memorial.
Title: Re: New MJDHI Hoax Recap - help needed from all members
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 15, 2016, 11:37:43 AM
New thread opened: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php/topic,24856.msg453775.html#forum
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