Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: Emma_Lollipop on January 03, 2010, 02:08:50 PM

Title: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Emma_Lollipop on January 03, 2010, 02:08:50 PM
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Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Christiana on January 03, 2010, 02:34:21 PM
There are already threads about these findings:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1269 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1269)

Here's one from the old board, MJKit:

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/breaking-ne ... -t2977.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/breaking-news-f3/distributing-of-assets-t2977.htm)
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Emma_Lollipop on January 03, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
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Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: hope on January 03, 2010, 02:53:48 PM
Wouldn't the age at death be 50yrs, 1 mth, and 2 days.....not 50yrs, 9mths and 27 days? :?  And has anyone looked under Michael JOE Jackson?
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Emma_Lollipop on January 03, 2010, 02:57:56 PM
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Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: ILoveMichael on January 03, 2010, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: "hope"
Wouldn't the age at death be 50yrs, 1 mth, and 2 days.....not 50yrs, 9mths and 27 days? :?  And has anyone looked under Michael JOE Jackson?

No, I just counted the days, the time is right...
But Joe / Joseph  :?:  I just don't know... There's no Michael Joe Jackson...
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Christiana on January 03, 2010, 06:05:58 PM
Quote from: "Emma_Lollipop"
Quote from: "Christiana"
There are already threads about these findings:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1269 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1269)

Here's one from the old board, MJKit:

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/breaking-ne ... -t2977.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/breaking-news-f3/distributing-of-assets-t2977.htm)

Thank you Christiana. But I don't see a conclusion of any kind in that discussion. And as I said above I tried to access Death Master File and you need to subscribe and pay. For one query is just 10$. And that's what the person that posted the screenshoot did. Paid the 10$ for the information.
What I was asking myself is how does this fits in the context of the hoax?
We are talking now about government fraud with or without the authorities permission?
I really don't see how you can do this without involving them.


All we can do is speculate about this, as with anything else surrounding the "death" of Michael Jackson. We can't really prove  or conclude anything.  For me, there are only 3 options here:

1. Someone died on June 25--not MJ, but for all intents and purposes was MJ. That body was autopsied and a death certificate issued (one we'll never see, which is NOT odd, because no California DC's are public information--not the actual DC anyway, only informational copies are). That DC was observed and thus the death was registered in the SSDI.

2. No one died on June 25th. MJ's involved in witness protection or some other form of protection. Thus, government agencies are involved and all records are filed--including SSDI, but they are all bogus.

3. MJ died on June 25th.  All records are legitimate, including record in SSDI.
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 03, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
@Christiana
I agree, thats the only options.
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 03, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
I'll take answer number 2, complete with newly issued documents (SSN, etc.) and all.  So with that in mind, the old ones are obsolete and totally useless.
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Doreen316 on January 03, 2010, 06:16:59 PM
in the 2nd pic. it say SSN issued in INdiana 1969.... if he was born in 1958 why was it issued in 1969? Maybe I am dumb but they didn't just start issuing ssn in 69 right (i was born in 84 so I dunno lol). I thought that was weird!
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: ILoveMichael on January 03, 2010, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
I'll take answer number 2, complete with newly issued documents (SSN, etc.) and all.  So with that in mind, the old ones are obsolete and totally useless.

Yes, I think the same...
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Christiana on January 03, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
in the 2nd pic. it say SSN issued in INdiana 1969.... if he was born in 1958 why was it issued in 1969? Maybe I am dumb but they didn't just start issuing ssn in 69 right (i was born in 84 so I dunno lol). I thought that was weird!

Back in those days, filing for a SS# was not something done the year a child was born. I was born in the 60's, and I didn't have a SS# until the 70's. My daughter was born in 1985. We weren't required to have a SS# when she was born--I believe we didn't need one until she turned 5. It's different now. The IRS requires all children to have a SS# to be claimed on Federal Income Tax Returns. Laws change over time.
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: KacyLovesMJ on January 04, 2010, 03:21:22 AM
Read this guys.

http://mjdhor.blogspot.com/2009/10/social-security-numbers-dmf.html
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Emma_Lollipop on January 04, 2010, 03:57:00 AM
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Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Emma_Lollipop on January 04, 2010, 04:02:42 AM
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Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: Doreen316 on January 04, 2010, 06:48:05 AM
Quote from: "Christiana"
Quote from: "Doreen316"
in the 2nd pic. it say SSN issued in INdiana 1969.... if he was born in 1958 why was it issued in 1969? Maybe I am dumb but they didn't just start issuing ssn in 69 right (i was born in 84 so I dunno lol). I thought that was weird!

Back in those days, filing for a SS# was not something done the year a child was born. I was born in the 60's, and I didn't have a SS# until the 70's. My daughter was born in 1985. We weren't required to have a SS# when she was born--I believe we didn't need one until she turned 5. It's different now. The IRS requires all children to have a SS# to be claimed on Federal Income Tax Returns. Laws change over time.


oh ok. thank you so much for clearing that up! I wasn't sure about that b/c I know my mom got me one when I was first born. Didn't know the rules. Thanks again!  :D
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: tiida11 on January 04, 2010, 11:27:03 PM
Thank you for information. It's not Michael Joe Jackson...it's Michael Joseph Jackson. The day when  this mystery will be 100% solved i'll drink a huge cup of champagne though i don't use to drink !
Title: Re: Social Security Death Index Search Results
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on January 06, 2010, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
in the 2nd pic. it say SSN issued in INdiana 1969.... if he was born in 1958 why was it issued in 1969? Maybe I am dumb but they didn't just start issuing ssn in 69 right (i was born in 84 so I dunno lol). I thought that was weird!




I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WHEN A PARENT DIES THE CHILDREN WILL COLLECT FROM THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY UNTIL THEY ARE 18 YRS OLD, THIS RECORDS SHOWS THERE IS NO MONIES BEING PAID OUT FROM MICHAEL . :roll:
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