Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Elsa on January 05, 2010, 06:11:11 PM
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There is a backwards play of This Is It on You Tube. I heard some English words in it but wasn’t sure if it was the real song or someone playing games so I downloaded Audacity and ripped my THIS IS IT CD (which is brilliant).
I’m completely technodense and couldn’t figure it out for a while so for people like me- in Audacity you go PROJECT, IMPORT AUDIO, open the song from your music files, use the tool which looks like an I and run the cursor from the start to the end of the song, then EFFECT, REVERSAL and whatever else, like CHANGE SPEED, then Play.
Of course it sounds freaky backwards and I was listening to it alone in the middle of the night but I definitely hear words and at the end it is SCARY. It sounds like Michael calling for help. I can’t listen to the ending again.
This is the link to download Audacity.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/ (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/)
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Anyway you can download what you recorded backwards to let us hear? :?
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I'd like to hear it too... guess I'll try and download audacity. Could you give us any example of what you heard? :D
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If he is crying for help i don't think i could listen..but curiosity will win over..I get emotional when i see interviews where they bash him...But i would like to listen to it anyways to see if i can help in any way
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it sounds like it says "help.. me.. please... HELP..... peter"
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if you want to hear it for yourself http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3LIRWYLY (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3LIRWYLY)
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it sounds like it says "help.. me.. please... HELP..... peter"
omg thatss so eeeriie!!!
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it sounds like it says "help.. me.. please... HELP..... peter"
omg thatss so eeeriie!!!
Yeah. The "peter" part is really eerie. :|
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it sounds like it says "help.. me.. please... HELP..... peter"
OMG I JUST LISTENED TO IT!!!! MICHAEL WHY WERE YOU CRYING FOR HELP why?!?!? what the heck is going on
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it sounds like it says "help.. me.. please... HELP..... peter"
OMG I JUST LISTENED TO IT!!!! MICHAEL WHY WERE YOU CRYING FOR HELP why?!?!? what the heck is going on
I listened to it as well. This song was recorded in the mid 80's after Thriller. Makes you wonder what he was going thru.
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...................... O_o I refuse to listen, after your responses...... how eerie... :? :cry:
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OMG...I want to listen so bad! I'm gonna have to come back to it tomorrow, I'm the only one awake in my house and backwards subliminal things freak me out anyway! Is it very scary? This song was made long ago, maybe it was MJ's way of calling on Peter (Peter Pan) to take him out of his pain. to the real Neverland, to his fantasy. We all know how much MJ Loves Peter Pan. Some people say that MJ and other stars are forced to put backwards subliminal messages in their songs. Maybe this was MJ's way of defying and the reason why it was never released. Maybe he didn't want to say what they wanted him to say. I don't really believe the illuminati theory, but why do so many singers do this I wonder? hmmm. OK NOW I HAVE SCARED MYSELF....LOL
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here guys, I found it on youtube...I heard 1 second and had to stop...I had goose bumps...
[youtube:32xe9g6e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6QLQP1PEBg[/youtube:32xe9g6e]
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Michael's songs are the only songs that don't have those creepy sayings about satan which is weird in other songs though such as Obamas theme song as heard in commercials titled "yes we can"...says this over and over again "thank you satan, thank you satan, thank you satan....another song called Stairway to Heaven"...normal lyrics as goes....if theres a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed now, its just a spring clean for the may queen. Yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run theres still time to change the road your on... now played backwards as goes...oh heres to my sweet satan. The one whose little path would make me sad, whose power is satan. He will give those with him 666. There was a little tool shed where he made us suffer, sad satan.
Is that CREEPY OR WHAT!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :o :shock:
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OMG...I want to listen so bad! I'm gonna have to come back to it tomorrow, I'm the only one awake in my house and backwards subliminal things freak me out anyway! Is it very scary? This song was made long ago, maybe it was MJ's way of calling on Peter (Peter Pan) to take him out of his pain. to the real Neverland, to his fantasy. We all know how much MJ Loves Peter Pan. Some people say that MJ and other stars are forced to put backwards subliminal messages in their songs. Maybe this was MJ's way of defying and the reason why it was never released. Maybe he didn't want to say what they wanted him to say. I don't really believe the illuminati theory, but why do so many singers do this I wonder? hmmm. OK NOW I HAVE SCARED MYSELF....LOL
LOL. I reluctantly listened to it. It is kinda hard to make out. I think I heard "Peter" pretty clear, though. I don't think I have ever listened to a record backwards. I guess there is a first time for everything. Thanks Michael!!! ;)
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the you tube one is way harder to understand...if you go to the first link and actually download it yourselves the first few words backwards are quite clear and scary!! he is calling for help and it makes my heart ache...is he saying to help peter or is he asking peter to help him?? :?
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I like this one better...he says he is alive:)
[youtube:1tazosjt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JveDTKGL-w&feature=related[/youtube:1tazosjt]
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someone needs to play some of his latest songs that he has recorded maybe there will be a message...of course he would say he alive in the this is it recording because he recorded a very long time ago...i wonder what the song They Dont Care About Us sounds like?...or We've Had Enough hm...or Black or White??...we need to find someone who can play the songs that started raising arguments such as those backwards because it seems like that was when he started recording songs with really strong lyrics...or Heal The World and Will You Be There
Man In The Mirror...just those kinds of songs because thats when he started trying to express to us about how the world has come to...
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I reversed the newest song and heard nothing significant.
I reversed TDCAU the other day and didn't really hear anything significant either.
I reversed "A Place Without No Name" just now and can hear something like "Dear Lord, Why do you see.... ?"
And "My head - I get hot and then I get *undecipherable* And if I'm.. the road.. will board .. this.. "
IDK.. Someone else might be able to hear it a bit better. I'm not using headphones and really should be.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH)
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I reversed the newest song and heard nothing significant.
I reversed TDCAU the other day and didn't really hear anything significant either.
I reversed "A Place Without No Name" just now and can hear something like "Dear Lord, Why do you see.... ?"
And "My head - I get hot and then I get *undecipherable* And if I'm.. the road.. will board .. this.. "
IDK.. Someone else might be able to hear it a bit better. I'm not using headphones and really should be.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH)
My dog ate my headphones so i can't use em...but i basically heard the same thig except the my head- get hot but i heard the other stuff...hm..wish Little Abbie didnt eat my darn headphones!!!..I think she is getting jealous because i am spending so much time on the laptop heehee
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I reversed the newest song and heard nothing significant.
I reversed TDCAU the other day and didn't really hear anything significant either.
I reversed "A Place Without No Name" just now and can hear something like "Dear Lord, Why do you see.... ?"
And "My head - I get hot and then I get *undecipherable* And if I'm.. the road.. will board .. this.. "
IDK.. Someone else might be able to hear it a bit better. I'm not using headphones and really should be.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH)
My dog ate my headphones so i can't use em...but i basically heard the same thig except the my head- get hot but i heard the other stuff...hm..wish Little Abbie didnt eat my darn headphones!!!..I think she is getting jealous because i am spending so much time on the laptop heehee
tsktsktsk bad Abbie! :lol:
Going to reverse the spoken part of Will You Be There now. Lets see what we have..
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I reversed the newest song and heard nothing significant.
I reversed TDCAU the other day and didn't really hear anything significant either.
I reversed "A Place Without No Name" just now and can hear something like "Dear Lord, Why do you see.... ?"
And "My head - I get hot and then I get *undecipherable* And if I'm.. the road.. will board .. this.. "
IDK.. Someone else might be able to hear it a bit better. I'm not using headphones and really should be.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZKIOV1ZH)
My dog ate my headphones so i can't use em...but i basically heard the same thig except the my head- get hot but i heard the other stuff...hm..wish Little Abbie didnt eat my darn headphones!!!..I think she is getting jealous because i am spending so much time on the laptop heehee
tsktsktsk bad Abbie! :lol:
Going to reverse the spoken part of Will You Be There now. Lets see what we have..
Tell us what you have...hopefully something good!!
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Tell us what you have...hopefully something good!!
Not sure. There's lots of words.. Have a listen if you want to http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DKGV5VYC (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DKGV5VYC)
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Okay...umm...there are tears all over my keyboard. My stomach feels weak.
That was really disturbing. It's 11:30 pm here. I have my head phones on so everything else around me is blocked out. Really emotional I guess cuz I cried while listening to both of the vids and then the megaupload mp3. I clearly hear, "Help...please, please help...Peter..."
Wow...too much for tonight. I'm going to listen to Will You Be There now though. :? :cry:
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So I listened to Will You Be There backwards very closely and replayed each fragment several times. This is what I got. I don't get it though. U?
You all breathe
Through all wish...
We're all exploiting/explaining...
OR
We're always building up...soon if..
Many have known it....show me and make.
So this shit/shift will commit
Hurry, film it.
This movie we're filming
Smile now...
This share of certain that...
Does God know it...
Soon we shall meet new family
Hurry, beat me.
Where is my...
Hurry up...sit...numb it
Her watch the crowd numb
Listen and you should hear all of this.
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Okay...umm...there are tears all over my keyboard. My stomach feels weak.
That was really disturbing. It's 11:30 pm here. I have my head phones on so everything else around me is blocked out. Really emotional I guess cuz I cried while listening to both of the vids and then the megaupload mp3. I clearly hear, "Help...please, please help...Peter..."
Wow...too much for tonight. I'm going to listen to Will You Be There now though. :? :cry:
i know i feel so deeply...i dont think i could listen to it another time...but i have a question and i hope you can answer it for me....its 3 am here so sorry if i sound crazy ( i have insomnia like Michael did)..but um have you ever wondered how hidden message were recorded on a song when played backwards?? if you know how i would like to hear your theory
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@i_need YoU
I'm sorry you can't sleep. My grandpa has the same problem. I'll pray for you.
I was wondering the same thing though. Like, how did he know what he was saying would mean something different when played backwards? How did he do it? I'm guessing he recorded himself saying things, like with a tape recorder and then played it backwards maybe?...if that's possible? Then he sang it/spoke it into his songs. Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe we're working with other forces here. Lol. I'm the one who sounds crazy. And it's only 1:30 am here. :) Hmm...I don't know. Sorry I'm not of much help. The "help, please..." thing is really frightening though. My eyes are watering just thinking about it. Pray that I don't have any nightmares. Thank you. God bless!
Love,
Lizzie <3
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@i_need YoU
I'm sorry you can't sleep. My grandpa has the same problem. I'll pray for you.
I was wondering the same thing though. Like, how did he know what he was saying would mean something different when played backwards? How did he do it? I'm guessing he recorded himself saying things, like with a tape recorder and then played it backwards maybe?...if that's possible? Then he sang it/spoke it into his songs. Maybe it's coincidence. Maybe we're working with other forces here. Lol. I'm the one who sounds crazy. And it's only 1:30 am here. :) Hmm...I don't know. Sorry I'm not of much help. The "help, please..." thing is really frightening though. My eyes are watering just thinking about it. Pray that I don't have any nightmares. Thank you. God bless!
Love,
Lizzie <3
:lol: heehee i am only 19 with this i love you compare me to an older gentlemen though...i think i am going to look more into that though...i am some what fasinated (pardon the spelling) with it...not the message from michael though but just in general on how it all works...I listened to other songs backwards before and it really scared me because they were talking about satan and thanking him and stuff and it was very very audible and it made me get paranoid heehee...but yeah when i heard him crying for help i was like omgosh wats going on i started getting watery eyed and i quit playing it...which is sad because if he is trying to call for help we cant help him because we wont listen to it anymore..BUT i think tomoro i going to do more research on his music to see if i can find anything else that links with all this...BLAH I AM BLABBERING OKAY THANK YOU!!! :) :D
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:lol: heehee i am only 19 with this i love you compare me to an older gentlemen though...i think i am going to look more into that though...i am some what fasinated (pardon the spelling) with it...not the message from michael though but just in general on how it all works...I listened to other songs backwards before and it really scared me because they were talking about satan and thanking him and stuff and it was very very audible and it made me get paranoid heehee...but yeah when i heard him crying for help i was like omgosh wats going on i started getting watery eyed and i quit playing it...which is sad because if he is trying to call for help we cant help him because we wont listen to it anymore..BUT i think tomoro i going to do more research on his music to see if i can find anything else that links with all this...BLAH I AM BLABBERING OKAY THANK YOU!!! :) :D
Lol. I'm 17. ^_^ But that's not what I meant. Haha. Age had nothing to do with it. He's just the only person that is close to me that has the same kinda issue.
I've never heard the ones about satan but people have talked about it. Too scary for me. Ahh...but oohh...reminds me of one of my fave songs, Is it Scary by Michael Jackson. Lol. We should try finding that song backwards. :o I would do all the work myself but my computer is too slow these days and I'd have to download the program.
It really broke my heart hearing that. It was sadness and fear. They both came over me. Depressing really. I'm going to try not to think about it too much and do whatever I can to help him now. I pray he's alright.
Do you have any other connection...myspace, youtube, etc.? You seem really nice. :D
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:lol: heehee i am only 19 with this i love you compare me to an older gentlemen though...i think i am going to look more into that though...i am some what fasinated (pardon the spelling) with it...not the message from michael though but just in general on how it all works...I listened to other songs backwards before and it really scared me because they were talking about satan and thanking him and stuff and it was very very audible and it made me get paranoid heehee...but yeah when i heard him crying for help i was like omgosh wats going on i started getting watery eyed and i quit playing it...which is sad because if he is trying to call for help we cant help him because we wont listen to it anymore..BUT i think tomoro i going to do more research on his music to see if i can find anything else that links with all this...BLAH I AM BLABBERING OKAY THANK YOU!!! :) :D
Lol. I'm 17. ^_^ But that's not what I meant. Haha. Age had nothing to do with it. He's just the only person that is close to me that has the same kinda issue.
I've never heard the ones about satan but people have talked about it. Too scary for me. Ahh...but oohh...reminds me of one of my fave songs, Is it Scary by Michael Jackson. Lol. We should try finding that song backwards. :o I would do all the work myself but my computer is too slow these days and I'd have to download the program.
It really broke my heart hearing that. It was sadness and fear. They both came over me. Depressing really. I'm going to try not to think about it too much and do whatever I can to help him now. I pray he's alright.
Do you have any other connection...myspace, youtube, etc.? You seem really nice. :D
Is it Scary by Michael hmm... sounds interesting enough...I don't do it by myself either because my computer is slow ( I been killing it with this hardcore researching)...but i know someone on here can possibly find a way to do it..Yeah i have a myspace and facebook, but no youtube...although i am quite addicted to the youtube watching haha...i going to go see if that song is on youtube backwards for sure...but i kinda nervous to listen to it
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Is it Scary by Michael hmm... sounds interesting enough...I don't do it by myself either because my computer is slow ( I been killing it with this hardcore researching)...but i know someone on here can possibly find a way to do it..Yeah i have a myspace and facebook, but no youtube...although i am quite addicted to the youtube watching haha...i going to go see if that song is on youtube backwards for sure...but i kinda nervous to listen to it
Yup. It's a great song. From the Blood on The Dance Floor cd. Which is the one with Morphine(listen if u haven't) Hope u find it. =) Don't be too nervous. I'm there with you in spirit. Lol.
My myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/iloveumichaeljackson
You should add me...if ya feel like it. Haha! :D
Hugs!
~ Lizzie
P.S. I'm like dead tired so I'm gonna go fall on top of my bed. K? Lol. Talk to you tomorrow? L.O.V.E. <3
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My brother and I used to play all our old records backwards when we were kids. It was the 80's. That's just what we did. :lol: Ahh, good times.. Anyway, don't read too much into it. Most reverse messages are not done on purpose, unless you're listening to the likes of Cradle of Filth.. :lol:
The term Backward Masking has been mistakenly given to all forms of backward messages in music whereas in fact there are 2 types -
(1) Backward Masking, which is the deliberate insertion of backward messages
(2) Reverse Speech, the naturally occurring form of backwards messages, or phonetic reversals.
(Taken from http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm (http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm) )
various points taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking)
..coincidental phonetic reversals, in which the spoken or sung phonemes form new combinations of words when listened to backwards. Engineering or planning a phonetic reversal is next to impossible, and even more difficult when trying to design it with words that fit into a song. You probably won't hear backmasked messages until somebody first points them out to you. Perception is influenced by expectation and expectation is affected by what others prime you for. The apparent presence of backward messages in popular music is a function more of active construction on the part of the perceiver than of the existence of the messages themselves.
various points taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_speech)
..It claims that during spoken language production, human speakers subconsciously produce hidden messages that give insight into their inner thoughts.
So, maybe it's Michael's subconscious talking - maybe not. Though, hearing "Peter" said in TII intro is pretty amazing, IF it was a natural occurrence, and NOT Michael playing around with backmasking.
I can try Is It Scary backwards if you'd like. This stuff doesn't bother me at all since I'm used to it. :D
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My brother and I used to play all our old records backwards when we were kids. It was the 80's. That's just what we did. :lol: Ahh, good times.. Anyway, don't read too much into it. Most reverse messages are not done on purpose, unless you're listening to the likes of Cradle of Filth.. :lol:
The term Backward Masking has been mistakenly given to all forms of backward messages in music whereas in fact there are 2 types -
(1) Backward Masking, which is the deliberate insertion of backward messages
(2) Reverse Speech, the naturally occurring form of backwards messages, or phonetic reversals.
(Taken from http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm (http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm) )
various points taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking)
..coincidental phonetic reversals, in which the spoken or sung phonemes form new combinations of words when listened to backwards. Engineering or planning a phonetic reversal is next to impossible, and even more difficult when trying to design it with words that fit into a song. You probably won't hear backmasked messages until somebody first points them out to you. Perception is influenced by expectation and expectation is affected by what others prime you for. The apparent presence of backward messages in popular music is a function more of active construction on the part of the perceiver than of the existence of the messages themselves.
various points taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_speech)
..It claims that during spoken language production, human speakers subconsciously produce hidden messages that give insight into their inner thoughts.
So, maybe it's Michael's subconscious talking - maybe not. Though, hearing "Peter" said in TII intro is pretty amazing, IF it was a natural occurrence, and NOT Michael playing around with backmasking.
I can try Is It Scary backwards if you'd like. This stuff doesn't bother me at all since I'm used to it. :D
Interesting. Thanks for posting and I am curious if there are any hidden messages in Is It Scary backwards.
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0:41 - I BeLIEve
He says that.. :shock:
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i decided to take a stab at this and i reversed the human nature, the movie version and im hearing things but i cant make sense of them maybe its the quality of my headset, but if someone else can try this and let me know if they can make sense of it
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Thats so freaky with the TII and the video for it that has the clips from Dont stop til u get enough. but my question is...if we can hear the "help me.." in TII that was recorded by mj, does that mean if someone just records it for them self it would say the same thing?...
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I'm still playing with the Audacity program to see what else I can do to make the words clearer.
Melzy777 thanks for the explanations of backmasking and reversing speech.
I believe the reverse of This Is It has been created deliberately. In the process of recording a song musicians/singers can record their bit separately and then the tracks are put together, like when a singer harmonizes with a prerecording of himself. So I think a hidden message would be on a separate track that is reversed and then added to the song. Like turning over a deck of cards, a faint or inaudible backwards track would become the dominant track when it is played forwards. I have no idea how it’s done but I think it must be something like that.
This site is investigating the death hoax so shouldn’t we assume that there was no need to dress up an old 80’s song when it could be recorded by the living artist? Did someone say this key song for the movie was found in a box? Compare Michael’s voice from the eighties. I think he sounds more mature in This Is It?
I hear these phrases repeated
'(maybe "I") was the one in love, (maybe "foolish lover")'
Believe me now
Miss me
This is it
Still can't listen to that ending. I have to take the earphones out.
There are some other words I'm not sure enough about. Still working on it.
The 1,2,3,4 reminds me of the start of 'Big Girls Don't Cry'. ;) . Maybe we should look at that in a new thread.
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0:41 - I BeLIEve
He says that.. :shock:
LOL! I am still cracking up over your post...the little guy made me start laughing...
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oh my god..that is so freaky..i heard the peter part very clearly..and it does sound lyk 'help me' omg its so scary
im gonna try ripping my this is it cd 2 and yea it is awesomeee!! i love it so glad i bought it :) so ill do it and backward all the songs and see what happens..
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Michael's songs are the only songs that don't have those creepy sayings about satan which is weird in other songs though such as Obamas theme song as heard in commercials titled "yes we can"...says this over and over again "thank you satan, thank you satan, thank you satan....another song called Stairway to Heaven"...normal lyrics as goes....if theres a bustle in your hedgerow don't be alarmed now, its just a spring clean for the may queen. Yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run theres still time to change the road your on... now played backwards as goes...oh heres to my sweet satan. The one whose little path would make me sad, whose power is satan. He will give those with him 666. There was a little tool shed where he made us suffer, sad satan.
Is that CREEPY OR WHAT!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :o :shock:
THAT IS CREEPY :shock: wierd..and if so many songs are talking abt satan backwards and michaels is calling 4 help and stuff..wat a coincidence! again...dnt know if i actually beLIEve in coincidences anymore lol everything happens 4 a reason hehe
i think it shows that he rly is so innocent and an angel :) <33 and he needs help :(
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And here we are listening to backwards songs with the most strange messages and all getting very emotional. True it is freaky and it is necessary to listen and analyze this so we can try to find a way to clear this up, but I really hope that we find the reason for this very soon because at this moment the only thing I can think of is "MIND CONTROL". And to my opinion that was something Michael wanted to get out of. So please stay open minded all for the TRUTH right.
I don't want to lecture anyone here but it just that i have a very uncomfortable feeling about this sorry.
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0:41 - I BeLIEve
He says that.. :shock:
LOL! I am still cracking up over your post...the little guy made me start laughing...
.. He really does :lol:
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Here's a video I found on youtube. Check it out
[youtube:m4eyfy77]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rtG7lEjDo[/youtube:m4eyfy77]
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Here's a video I found on youtube. Check it out
[youtube:3egcyzqj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rtG7lEjDo[/youtube:3egcyzqj]
woha! okay...i never believed in the illuminati-theory but this is really interesting...
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Backmasking (also known as backward masking)[1] is a recording technique in which a sound or message is recorded backward onto a track that is meant to be played forward. Backmasking is a deliberate process, whereas a message found through phonetic reversal may be unintentional.
Backmasking was popularized by The Beatles, who used backward vocals and instrumentation in recording their 1966 album Revolver.[2] Artists have since used backmasking for artistic, comedic, and satiric effect, on both analog and digital recordings. The technique has also been used to censor words or phrases for "clean" releases of songs.
Backmasking has been a controversial topic in the United States since the 1980s, when allegations from Christian groups of its use for Satanic purposes were made against prominent rock musicians, leading to record-burning protests and proposed anti-backmasking legislation by state and federal governments.[3] Whether backmasking can be used subliminally to affect listeners is in debate by both sides
From Wikipedia..... Who owned the betles catalog.... he had to know about it.
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This isn't erie at all----I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this one. It actually made me tear up at the end when he says "Sorry---This Is It". OMG!!!! I can understand why he'd do this, I mean he truly loves his fans. People were committing suicide for goodness sake. This is my BAM!!! I just want him to be happy and safe. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
This is so meI like this one better...he says he is alive:)
[youtube:11ibfd0y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JveDTKGL-w&feature=related[/youtube:11ibfd0y]