Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Funeral, The Body & Forest Lawn => Topic started by: Shout on January 06, 2010, 12:22:35 PM
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This is really a sad day!!!
I have found this site on which is written that Michaels name and an epitaph will be added soon on his crypt.
I have reflected everything surrounding Michaels death and it gets harder and harder to believe. I am searching for the truth and I think, yes, Michael Jackson is maybe dead...
Here is the saddest link which I have ever put on this side. As I have seen this picture it felt heavy on my heart and still is. I am very sorry that I have to put it here right now (please forgive me but I am searching for the truth and still hope that this is not real):
http://www.seeing-stars.com/Buried2/For ... ale5.shtml (http://www.seeing-stars.com/Buried2/ForestLawnGlendale5.shtml)
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It doesn't say that it will be added soon, it says "no doubt it will be added soon". The writer of this is speculating that this is going to happen IMO.
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I know this web page .... sometimes see(http://www.smilietown.de/smilies/rauchende/rauchen_002.gif) (http://www.smilietown.de)
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I think this might be old. I remember someone posted a link to the same website back in September or I ran across it while searching? The family specifically said that they will not put Michael's name on the crypt, so I doubt one will be added. I wouldn't get upset over this, it probably doesn't mean anything. Keep the faith!! ;)
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It doesn't say that it will be added soon, it says "no doubt it will be added soon". The writer of this is speculating that this is going to happen IMO.
I hope you are right. Right now I cannot think in a positive way (maybe I am pessimistic and do not see "clear") but to me it sounds not that way you have interpret it. But you are right it is possible that the writer meant it that way.
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It also states "a photo of the crypt was distributed by the park to the press back in the 1950's, when the Holly Terrace first opened. Click here to see it."
Now if you click that link it opens a picture very much the same as we have been shown lately. I just find it hard to imagine that there are not any noticeable changes to this location after 59 years but that may be JMO.
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It also states "a photo of the crypt was distributed by the park to the press back in the 1950's, when the Holly Terrace first opened. Click here to see it."
Now if you click that link it opens a picture very much the same as we have been shown lately. I just find it hard to imagine that there are not any noticeable changes to this location after 59 years but that may be JMO.
here is the WHOLE article:
Quote: "With a very high price, this valuable location waited five decades for the right tenant."
[attachment=0:rtfvo42s]Aufzeichnen MJ.JPG[/attachment:rtfvo42s]
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It doesn't say that it will be added soon, it says "no doubt it will be added soon". The writer of this is speculating that this is going to happen IMO.
I agree. it's strange a tomb with no epitaph, the writer can explain this fact telling that there is "no doubt it will be added soon". it doesn't mean anything.
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It doesn't say that it will be added soon, it says "no doubt it will be added soon". The writer of this is speculating that this is going to happen IMO.
I hope you are right. Right now I cannot think in a positive way (maybe I am pessimistic and do not see "clear") but to me it sounds not that way you have interpret it. But you are right it is possible that the writer meant it that way.
It has been 4 months since the...burial and the crypt doesn't yet bear Michael's name!
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"Michael Jackson, the "King of Pop", was buried in the Great Mausoleum in July of 2009."
July 2009?
I don't think we should worry, it's just a tourist guide.
We should really worry about that, do you know why???? because the DC says that Michael was buried on 7.7.2009 take a look. So the "mediahoax" will be that the family has fooled us, because they pretend that they have buried Michael on 3rd September! Before that public memorial service they were at Forest Lawn.
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Michael is gone forever. I am the first who wants him to be alive but we have to accept it. He went forever last 25th june. It is better to admit it. He gave us a lot, maybe it is the time for enjoying every song, every video, every interview, every pic....and let him rest forever. Everybody, you and me have to die someday, he was 50 years and a cardiac arrest is not so unusual.
Do not hate me and do not tell me I must go another site because it is not fair. Inside me there still live a hope, and I visit you everyday trying to find news clues....but I found nothing logic for months....
And supossing he is alive, if he is hidden or have decided he want or need another life, why dont we let him be happy? if he has to reappear he will do, and if we find some clue maybe we hurt him. I wish he will be healthy and happy, but I have to respect his decision for going...or his death.
Sorry very much.
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I made an error in my previous post regarding the pictures of the crypt. Apparently there have been some changes such as a more modern floor and the addition of the gate since the original 1950's photo. I apologize for my error.
As another note, someone just pointed out that it says he was placed there in July of 2009 but that can't be possible since the family had not even picked out the final resting place at that time and the funeral wasn't until September.
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@MJfull
Yes I totaly agree with you that there is no name on this since all know that Michael is supposedly there.
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I made an error in my previous post regarding the pictures of the crypt. Apparently there have been some changes such as a more modern floor and the addition of the gate since the original 1950's photo. I apologize for my error.
As another note, someone just pointed out that it says he was placed there in July of 2009 but that can't be possible since the family had not even picked out the final resting place at that time and the funeral wasn't until September.
That is what they have told us. Look to the DC it mentiones something else.
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The DC says that Michael was buried on 7.7.2009. If you do not except the dates compare it please with murphys DC.
I am really, really sorry, but I think we are here because we want the truth and maybe this is the truth. There are more things which explain that Michael is gone, more than the "proofs" that he is alive.
I am really sorry and sad, but I think this is unfortunately the truth.
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I think we should start to see what proves that Michael is gone. I am sure that we will find more evidence that he is not here anymore than that he is alive.
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Then who was in the casket that was at the funeral if Michael was already buried? I am trying to think of any question possible to explain the discrepancies of the dates regarding his burial. Also, if he was already buried then why did the family bother doing the "private" funeral which ended up being aired to the world until the casket arrived and then the feed was cut?
I also read on another thread that the family would not be putting his name on the crypt because they wanted to ensure his safety. I don't understand this either since he is in the more secure of places. What happens in 100 years or more when noone from now is still here? What if something happens to the mausoleum? How will they identify him if there is not a marker?
Like I said before, I am just trying to think of anything possible to explain the behaviors of all involved in this. Maybe I am grasping at straws per se but IMO if I don't look at the most improbabilities then I am leaving stones unturned which could have answers.
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Here is the DC of Michael Jackson, oh my god
http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/ ... ficate.jpg (http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/07/07/5996_michael-jackson-death-certificate.jpg)
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The death certificate is signed and dated it after the time of death and
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Then who was in the casket that was at the funeral if Michael was already buried? I am trying to think of any question possible to explain the discrepancies of the dates regarding his burial. Also, if he was already buried then why did the family bother doing the "private" funeral which ended up being aired to the world until the casket arrived and then the feed was cut?
I also read on another thread that the family would not be putting his name on the crypt because they wanted to ensure his safety. I don't understand this either since he is in the more secure of places. What happens in 100 years or more when noone from now is still here? What if something happens to the mausoleum? How will they identify him if there is not a marker?
Like I said before, I am just trying to think of anything possible to explain the behaviors of all involved in this. Maybe I am grasping at straws per se but IMO if I don't look at the most improbabilities then I am leaving stones unturned which could have answers.
Wasn´t it said that Michael was not (by the way) in the casket? I think yes, so maybe they have buried him before or after the public memorial service (if he was in the casket, I do not think so). This both positions are quite possible.
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The death certificate is signed and dated it after the time of death and
Okay, so here is a comparison. Watch the DC of Brittany Murphy. There are different dates too
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tm ... te_TMZ.pdf (http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1229_brittany_murphy_certificate_TMZ.pdf)
Just compare the two DC
Brittany Murphy:
Died: 20.12.2009
Buried: 24.12.2009
Date Issued: 29.12.2009
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@ Shout
Thanks
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Really!?! I had not heard that he wasn't in the casket. Well if that is true do you have any idea why the family would have used another $25,000 casket just for show? This is all starting to become more and more confusing and frustrating. And, why would they have his children go through with placing the crown on the casket if it was for nothing more than show? Haven't the children been through enough? They could have easily just stated that they had had a small family gathering to inter Michael and then let it be finished instead of making another public spectacle of themselves by having the elaborate funeral that they were over 90 minutes late for. Can you even begin to imagine how Michael, if he is gone, would be feeling over the disrespect shown to his guests, especially Elizabeth Taylor by making her wait out in the miserable heat for that long given her current health conditions.
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Really!?! I had not heard that he wasn't in the casket. Well if that is true do you have any idea why the family would have used another $25,000 casket just for show? This is all starting to become more and more confusing and frustrating. And, why would they have his children go through with placing the crown on the casket if it was for nothing more than show? Haven't the children been through enough? They could have easily just stated that they had had a small family gathering to inter Michael and then let it be finished instead of making another public spectacle of themselves by having the elaborate funeral that they were over 90 minutes late for. Can you even begin to imagine how Michael, if he is gone, would be feeling over the disrespect shown to his guests, especially Elizabeth Taylor by making her wait out in the miserable heat for that long given her current health conditions.
I think, sadly they want the money and the showbis is very, very hard and corrupt there are no angels there! And think about Joe how he has treated his children. Do you think his character has really changed, although I try to understand peoples behaviour, I do not believe that Joe has changed his character. :cry:
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@Shout, i think you are thinking way too negative. Seems like next you are going to say his family killed him for money. Sorry if that hurt you but i just needed to give an example. Just because an article said "there's no doubt it will be added soon" and the DC says he was buried on july 7th doesn't prove he's dead. I too sometimes feel we're living in denial but this does not make sense. What about all the other clues then?
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If you take a closer look at that DC right underneath the date it says that it is "Temp". I believe this references the other Forest Lawn where the viewing took place before the memorial and not the one at Glendale.
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I have to agree with farhatmjj. There's too much negativity in this thread, so I'm going to leave before it gets me too upset.
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This does not throw me off track ..... too much to be said against death MJS
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@Shout, i think you are thinking way too negative. Seems like next you are going to say his family killed him for money. Sorry if that hurt you but i just needed to give an example. Just because an article said "there's no doubt it will be added soon" and the DC says he was buried on july 7th doesn't prove he's dead. I too sometimes feel we're living in denial but this does not make sense. What about all the other clues then?
This is ridiculous, I just point out why Michael might be really dead and there are also a lot of proves for that. I do not say and will not say that the family is behind it. You read too much in my statements. I just show facts from another point of view.
I really hope that I am not right and too negative as you wrote.
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Yes, we unfortunately have to take everything into consideration
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Ok I have been seeing this pic of the tomb circulating this site, has anyone stopped and asked if this pic is actually the tomb of MJ. We have a woman who says that it is and we accept it.
The Jackson family "buried" Michael in an unmarked grave, where no one but the family has access to it, yet this woman finds the UNMARKED grave without problem. Is she a member of the Jackson Clan, was she there for the burial, how did she find the tomb. And further more why would the family leave the tomb unmarked if they have it in a location that they have access to and not the public.
Just wondering
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I have to agree with farhatmjj. There's too much negativity in this thread, so I'm going to leave before it gets me too upset.
We have to keep in mind that he might be really GONE.
I have to admit that I doubt a lot the last days, I think we want to see clues/proof and just create them ourselves.
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I do not want to upset anyone here and I would be very happy if I am not right.
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This is a very very sad thread. I lost my mother on New Year's Day - I'm trying to deal with that at the moment. I don't think I could stand it if I learnt that Michael was dead too..
I'm still clinging to the clues that have already discussed, and the fact that with Michael, the seemingly impossible becomes possible.
Keep the faith as long as you can - the truth will out!
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I have to agree with farhatmjj. There's too much negativity in this thread, so I'm going to leave before it gets me too upset.
We have to keep in mind that he might be really GONE.
I have to admit that I doubt a lot the last days, I think we want to see clues/proof and just create them ourselves.
You have a good point! I hate to say it, but I think it's true....
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I do not want to upset anyone here and I would be very happy if I am not right.
Well, people do get upset I guess, but we have to stay rational. If this whole investigation turns out to nothing but his real death, we have to be prepared. That's my opinion.
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If you take a closer look at that DC right underneath the date it says that it is "Temp". I believe this references the other Forest Lawn where the viewing took place before the memorial and not the one at Glendale.
I do no understand quite right and cannot find it, can you please put a picture right here
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We seek the truth!
No matter how this looks, I want the truth!
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We seek the truth!
No matter how this looks, I want the truth!
Exactly... Because this is a big part of my life since june 25, and I just can't let it go...
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http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/ ... ficate.jpg (http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/07/07/5996_michael-jackson-death-certificate.jpg)
@ shout: it is the same one that you posted earlier in the thread. I know that when you open it that the image is small to read but if you use your mouse and click over the image it will enlarge it and you can see.
It is line item 41 on the document (type of disposition)
Hope this makes sense.
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This is a very very sad thread. I lost my mother on New Year's Day - I'm trying to deal with that at the moment. I don't think I could stand it if I learnt that Michael was dead too..
I'm still clinging to the clues that have already discussed, and the fact that with Michael, the seemingly impossible becomes possible.
Keep the faith as long as you can - the truth will out!
I know how hard it is to lose a mother, it hurts badly. That is why I wish that I am wrong and as I have written this is the saddest information I have ever put right here! But there are still many, many points about Michaels death which I am questioning (so inside there is still hope).
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This is a very very sad thread. I lost my mother on New Year's Day - I'm trying to deal with that at the moment. I don't think I could stand it if I learnt that Michael was dead too..
I'm still clinging to the clues that have already discussed, and the fact that with Michael, the seemingly impossible becomes possible.
Keep the faith as long as you can - the truth will out!
I am very sorry for your loss dear. Time is a healer, just be patient.
I also cling to the hope that Michael is alive. Everytime I have that doubt, I just think about all the clues that indicate that he's alive and I feel better and certain that he's not gone.
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http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/full/2009/07/07/5996_michael-jackson-death-certificate.jpg
@ shout: it is the same one that you posted earlier in the thread. I know that when you open it that the image is small to read but if you use your mouse and click over the image it will enlarge it and you can see.
It is line item 41 on the document (type of disposition)
Hope this makes sense.
I have it, thank you. I am not from US can you explain please what your opinion is about it and do you mean that this migth be not the official DC in a way, do I understand you correct? If yes, this might be the explanation why there are different DC and if we see what the coroner employee has mentioned about the DC (he has answered questions in emails) it presents a total different point of view to that what we wish to be not true (that Michael is dead).
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I know this web page .... sometimes see(http://www.smilietown.de/smilies/rauchende/rauchen_002.gif) (http://www.smilietown.de)
LOL. Love that smilie!! :lol:
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Thanks for your kind words. It is hard, especially as it's so recent.
As regards Michael, I am still clinging to the belief that Michael was under severe pressure, and had maybe even threatened somehow. We all know that he looked thin in This Is It - weight loss is an effect of stress. He was also having difficulty sleeping - another sign.
If this is true, then he would have taken measures, even extreme measures, to protect himself and his family. He could and would do it. The evidence that relates to his 'death' could just be decoys to throw people of the scent.
Of course, it's not good if he was under pressure, but I am sure he is safe and well now, far removed from the madness. As to whether he will come back, that I cannot answer.
I may of course be clinging to a vain hope, but it is a hope....
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Temporary disposition means that the body was being held/stored there until the final burial arrangements were made.
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Where MJ was put on hold? Was not it Forrest Lawn? :oops:
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It was Forest Lawn but it was another location. I believe it was the Hollywood Hills location and not Glendale. He is actually interred in Glendale.
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Okay, all clear ... thanks
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I'm not doubting - I still believe. This whole thing about his 'tomb' and 'crypt' does nothing to convince me that Michael is dead. It's going to take a damned site more than that to make me feel any different.
When you weigh it all up - everything that has happened since 25th June, it still screams hoax.
Keep the faith folks!!
XXX
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http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-s-d ... -t2037.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-s-death-certificate-f25/here-is-what-must-be-stated-on-a-death-certificate-no-more-confussion-joe-or-joseph-but-both-t2037.htm)
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I'm not doubting - I still believe. This whole thing about his 'tomb' and 'crypt' does nothing to convince me that Michael is dead. It's going to take a damned site more than that to make me feel any different.
What rowdyangel said. Couldn't agree more if I tried.
Every time I read an anxious or scared forum post expressing worry that Michael might be "really dead," I come away feeling as confident as ever that he's not. You've got to keep your eyes on the BIG picture, meaning the ridiculous total number of inconsistencies and contradictions, ESPECIALLY when you encounter just one itty bitty piece of information that might indicate Michael passed away. The scales are still overwhelmingly tipped in favor of him NOT being dead, epitaph or not.
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I'm not doubting - I still believe. This whole thing about his 'tomb' and 'crypt' does nothing to convince me that Michael is dead. It's going to take a damned site more than that to make me feel any different.
What rowdyangel said. Couldn't agree more if I tried.
Every time I read an anxious or scared forum post expressing worry that Michael might be "really dead," I come away feeling as confident as ever that he's not. You've got to keep your eyes on the BIG picture, meaning the ridiculous total number of inconsistencies and contradictions, ESPECIALLY when you encounter just one itty bitty piece of information that might indicate Michael passed away. The scales are still overwhelmingly tipped in favor of him NOT being dead, epitaph or not.
Amen Lorrie!!!!
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I remember that thread very well. Also has anyone noticed that nothing is checked on line item 119 of the DC? I would have thought that since an autopsy was being done that "pending investigation" would have been appropriate. Does anyone have a link to the last DC that was released? I am at work and do not have it on this computer but it would be interesting to know if any of these line items were completed.
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I'm not doubting - I still believe. This whole thing about his 'tomb' and 'crypt' does nothing to convince me that Michael is dead. It's going to take a damned site more than that to make me feel any different.
What rowdyangel said. Couldn't agree more if I tried.
Every time I read an anxious or scared forum post expressing worry that Michael might be "really dead," I come away feeling as confident as ever that he's not. You've got to keep your eyes on the BIG picture, meaning the ridiculous total number of inconsistencies and contradictions, ESPECIALLY when you encounter just one itty bitty piece of information that might indicate Michael passed away. The scales are still overwhelmingly tipped in favor of him NOT being dead, epitaph or not.
Amen to that :D
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Much more to suggest that MJ is alive! Please do not forget that! Keep the faith continues.
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http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-s-death-certificate-f25/here-is-what-must-be-stated-on-a-death-certificate-no-more-confussion-joe-or-joseph-but-both-t2037.htm
Thanks for the reminder ;)
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I have only this...
[attachment=0:20i6oihd]Aufzeichnen mj 33.JPG[/attachment:20i6oihd]
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I am sorry but I am not finding what you are referring to when you ask what BU stands for.
Regarding my previous post with questions regarding the incomplete line items, they have all been answered.
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I would like to post this video in this thread, maybe there is hope :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qetys6S ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qetys6SeyA&feature=player_embedded)
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I am sorry but I am not finding what you are referring to when you ask what BU stands for.
Regarding my previous post with questions regarding the incomplete line items, they have all been answered.
I think it means buried BU it is written on Murphys DC
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@ Heartbreaker
Thank you, there is hope, thanks for the video! ;)
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So here it is the othe DC
http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_mj ... 090901.pdf (http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_mjackson_ammended_deathcertificate_090901.pdf)
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If you take a closer look at that DC right underneath the date it says that it is "Temp". I believe this references the other Forest Lawn where the viewing took place before the memorial and not the one at Glendale.
Yes this temp means he was held at FL not buried on that date. Also whats wrong with the address i thought it was 100 carolwood drive. Also he was not dead when arrived at hospital its not ticked DOA!! Also they blanked his social security number,why?? when its on FBI papers.... not concerned by this its just another go at throwing us off.JMO
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My question is if you have paid good money, top money for a crypt for your loved one, why the heck would you not put his or her name on it? Makes no sense. Since they say no one would be able to to access it anyway, why not memorialize him properly, with his name proudly above his final resting place. Why take him to "a in a place with no name" ? Because he sang about it? He also sang about Heaven can wait, didn't he ;) Let the lyrics speak for themselves.
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My question is if you have paid good money, top money for a crypt for your loved one, why the heck would you not put his or her name on it? Makes no sense. Since they say no one would be able to to access it anyway, why not memorialize him properly, with his name proudly above his final resting place. Why take him to "a in a place with no name" ? Because he sang about it? He also sang about Heaven can wait, didn't he ;) Let the lyrics speak for themselves.
Maybe they never wanted the public to know where he is but some people did not care and have published the picture or he is not there.
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Maybe he is dead.. all i know that there is a cover up going on here. No-one else, apart from us here, seem to care about the lying and inconsistencies.
Justice for Michael please. Justice.
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i like the part that says "with security like fort knox"!!!! hahha except somehow karen faye gets in!!! again it all screams HOAXXXXX :D :D
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i like the part that says "with security like fort knox"!!!! hahha except somehow karen faye gets in!!! again it all screams HOAXXXXX :D :D
On Facebook Karen says she has a pass given to her from the family.. and that she apologised to the family for the photograph thing.
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Oh KF apologized? Thought they had received from TMZ money for it?
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i like the part that says "with security like fort knox"!!!! hahha except somehow karen faye gets in!!! again it all screams HOAXXXXX :D :D
On Facebook Karen says she has a pass given to her from the family.. and that she apologised to the family for the photograph thing.
still dont ya think they would take cameras if you go in?? unless it was close family??? i mean security like fort knox!! :D :D
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If you take a closer look at that DC right underneath the date it says that it is "Temp". I believe this references the other Forest Lawn where the viewing took place before the memorial and not the one at Glendale.
Yes this temp means he was held at FL not buried on that date. Also whats wrong with the address i thought it was 100 carolwood drive. Also he was not dead when arrived at hospital its not ticked DOA!! Also they blanked his social security number,why?? when its on FBI papers.... not concerned by this its just another go at throwing us off.JMO
Michael has not only one house, so hayvenhurst avenue (this address) doesn´t underline anything. Many people who are rich have different addresses which are right. About the death there are clear contradictions, some sources are saying he was dead before he was at the hospital others underline he was not. Randy Philips mentioned in an interview that Michael has died not because of a heart attack but because his brain has not funktioned anymore (so if someones brain has no funktion the heart can still beat but you are clinically dead but this is also a moral question which is not easy to answer, inform yourself where are the differences between this two ways of pronouncing that someone has died. It is interesting). All this contradictions do not automatically show that he is alive, but it emphasizes that the media information is not precise and it is our solusion what to believe or not.
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With all due respect people who frequent the blog.
It's amazing how so easily believed what show or talk.
Soon a year ago this brincadera and nothing has been set.
Someone puts a matter comes somewhere saying it will post signs with name, epitaph, but hold the doctor who is good at all.
Until now this guy loose and clinical worsening again.
Faced with a situation such as you may believe these matters.
Today a website here I saw the pictures of Latoya and Janet celebrating the New Year's, Janet personal details with the same dress from the funeral!
In my space for Latoya is a picture of it next to a shelf with several photos of the brothers, a picture frame with no picture with this white paper stated: "back soon"
Who come back soon?
In another site shows the letter sent to a Brazilian Forest lawn, wondering what to do to visit and lay flowers.
They responded in no time they say that Michael is there, and replied that no one can go or put anything you need the authorization of the family.
My question is: How did the class shown here in this forum in a post, managed to get in and put a lot of things there?
Answer: For me are extras, people picked for a scenario.
Cause all this is just a scam not seen the body, I saw an open casket and saw Elvis, then I'm sorry friends here will be rather like St. Thomas, only believe what I see, Mr. Michael and none of us have seen, or NOTHING a picture you want.
Hug!
Sources: mulherpobre.blogspot.com
alucinada50.blogspot.com
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@Shout.. what Randy Phillips was saying is that they had MJ on life support at the hospital but he was brain dead. When a person has a heart attack and the heart stops beating there is only 3 minutes before the brain starts to die through lack of oxygen.
This implies that the paramedics did get his heart started again but it was too late.. and his brain had died.
This questions what we have been told about Dr Murray being on the phone for 40 mins before calling paramedics. If MJs heart had been stopped for over 40 minutes there is no way the paramedics could have got it started again. No way.
Sometimes this is when i think is the reason that Dr Murray has not been arrested. I think we have been fed a lot of lies and contradictions.
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I remember that thread very well. Also has anyone noticed that nothing is checked on line item 119 of the DC? I would have thought that since an autopsy was being done that "pending investigation" would have been appropriate. Does anyone have a link to the last DC that was released? I am at work and do not have it on this computer but it would be interesting to know if any of these line items were completed.
here is the last DC I think
http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_mj ... 090901.pdf (http://www.etonline.com/documents/et_mjackson_ammended_deathcertificate_090901.pdf)
And funeral Document or something like that
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Karen Faye is starting to get on nerves! What..she the only friend Michael had?
WHY is she the only one that seems to visit and take pictures to sell? And its like no
one in the family visits or cares that she takes pictures of a secure private burial site.
I don't know why it would come as a shock if Michael was buried on on July 7 (if hes really dead),
the family has been good at what they do for years. But WHY they SO intent on throwing off the
public with intentions? WHY not just TELL the public:
"We had a quiet respective interment for Michael with family and close friends only" and
"We will have a public memorial so the fans can pay tribute to Michael"
WHAT is so hard about that? :?
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Karen Faye is starting to get on nerves! What..she the only friend Michael had?
WHY is she the only one that seems to visit and take pictures to sell? And its like no
one in the family visits or cares that she takes pictures of a secure private burial site.
I don't know why it would come as a shock if Michael was buried on on July 7 (if hes really dead),
the family has been good at what they do for years. But WHY they SO intent on throwing off the
public with intentions? WHY not just TELL the public:
"We had a quiet respective interment for Michael with family and close friends only" and
"We will have a public memorial so the fans can pay tribute to Michael"
WHAT is so hard about that? :?
But they did that, I think. But the fans would have liked to see more. and I do not understand why they have control about everything. Michael has always mentioned how hard it was with the media they did not respect anything and when the burial is they have the power to control everything? This does not make sense, the same with the dancers. And if they would have wanted to make it private then why the hell didn´t they just do it private (with totaly no camera, pictures). The farewell/burial the would have been not outside but inside, so noone would have seen them. And why it started so late, maybe because there were problems with the helicopters flying around the Forest Lawn which could have take pictures ;) So there are still a lot of contradictions!
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@Shout, i think you are thinking way too negative. Seems like next you are going to say his family killed him for money. Sorry if that hurt you but i just needed to give an example. Just because an article said "there's no doubt it will be added soon" and the DC says he was buried on july 7th doesn't prove he's dead. I too sometimes feel we're living in denial but this does not make sense. What about all the other clues then?
This is ridiculous, I just point out why Michael might be really dead and there are also a lot of proves for that. I do not say and will not say that the family is behind it. You read too much in my statements. I just show facts from another point of view.
I really hope that I am not right and too negative as you wrote.
i am sorry. i'm dumb with my words sometimes. i'm really sorry and may be i am the one whose actually living in denial. you're right, there are also a lot of proves for that. that he could really be gone.
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Its okay. I hope that we find the truth and I wish that the truth is that Michael is alive!
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amen!
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i'm sorry i stay far from forum for much time maybe someone has already written what i'm going to write now but look closely
JULY???
he was buried(?? ahahahha ) in september
c'mon JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN PRINT, DOESNT MEAN IT'S THE GOSPEL
MJJ docet ;)
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Oh, that's nothing... They even wrote he was buried in July and assume, that the name will be engraved soon without having any facts. I would assume that as well, because everything else screams hoax or lack of interest. They should do it to make the "death" look more real. ;-)
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Everytime i hear about him being buried in a Crypt, i just can't help but think of Thriller, The words just jump out to me...
Thriller lyrics
Songwriters: Temperton, Rod;
It's close to midnight and something evil's lurking in the dark
Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart
You try to scream but terror takes the sound before you make it
You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes
You're paralyzed
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about strike
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight
You hear the door slam and realize there's nowhere left to run
You feel the cold hand and wonder if you'll ever see the sun
You close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination, girl!
But all the while you hear the creature creeping up behind
You're out of time (THE PRESS)
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
There ain't no second chance against the thing with forty eyes, girl
Thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight
Night creatures calling, the dead start to walk in their "masquerade"
There's no escaping the jaws of the alien this time
(They're open wide)
This is the end of your life
They're out to get you, there's demons closing in on every side
They will possess you unless you change that number on your dial
Now is the time for you and I to cuddle close together, yeah
All through the night I'll save you from the terror on the screen
I'll make you see
That this is thriller, thriller night
'Cause I can thrill you more than any ghost would ever dare try
Thriller, thriller night
So let me hold you tight and share a
Killer, diller, chiller, thriller here tonight
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
Girl, I can thrill you more than any ghost would ever dare try
Thriller, thriller night
So let me hold you tight and share a killer, thriller, ow!
(I'm gonna thrill ya tonight)
Darkness falls across the land
The midnight hour is close at hand
Creatures crawl in search of blood
To terrorize y'alls neighborhood
I'm gonna thrill ya tonight, ooh baby
I'm gonna thrill ya tonight, oh darlin'
Thriller night, baby, ooh!
The foulest stench is in the air
The funk of forty thousand years
And grizzly ghouls from every tomb
Are closing in to seal your doom (THE HATERS)
And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the thriller
I hope you understand what i mean, The LIVING DEAD!!
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Everytime i hear about him being buried in a Crypt, i just can't help but think of Thriller, The words just jump out to me...
Thriller lyrics
Songwriters: Temperton, Rod;
It's close to midnight and something evil's lurking in the dark
Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart
You try to scream but terror takes the sound before you make it
You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes
You're paralyzed
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about strike
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight
You hear the door slam and realize there's nowhere left to run
You feel the cold hand and wonder if you'll ever see the sun
You close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination, girl!
But all the while you hear the creature creeping up behind
You're out of time (THE PRESS)
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
There ain't no second chance against the thing with forty eyes, girl
Thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight
Night creatures calling, the dead start to walk in their "masquerade"
There's no escaping the jaws of the alien this time
(They're open wide)
This is the end of your life
They're out to get you, there's demons closing in on every side
They will possess you unless you change that number on your dial
Now is the time for you and I to cuddle close together, yeah
All through the night I'll save you from the terror on the screen
I'll make you see
That this is thriller, thriller night
'Cause I can thrill you more than any ghost would ever dare try
Thriller, thriller night
So let me hold you tight and share a
Killer, diller, chiller, thriller here tonight
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
Girl, I can thrill you more than any ghost would ever dare try
Thriller, thriller night
So let me hold you tight and share a killer, thriller, ow!
(I'm gonna thrill ya tonight)
Darkness falls across the land
The midnight hour is close at hand
Creatures crawl in search of blood
To terrorize y'alls neighborhood
I'm gonna thrill ya tonight, ooh baby
I'm gonna thrill ya tonight, oh darlin'
Thriller night, baby, ooh!
The foulest stench is in the air
The funk of forty thousand years
And grizzly ghouls from every tomb
Are closing in to seal your doom (THE HATERS)
And though you fight to stay alive
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the thriller
I hope you understand what i mean, The LIVING DEAD!!
I really agree with you and my take on this is also....
In "This is It", in the Thriller sequence it Suddenly stops and Michael in on a higher part of the stage and it starts playing Threatened ... he is doing a strange dance with the help of Travis Payne!
Which also includes the words I AM THE LIVING DEAD :!:
Those words in the lyrics also really stood out to me! :)
"Threatened"
[ROD SERLING INTRO]
Tonight’s story is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster.
You’re fearing me, ‘cause you know I’m a beast
Watching you when you sleep, when you’re in bed
I’m underneath
You’re trapped in halls, and my face is the walls
I’m the floor when you fall, and when you scream it’s ‘cause of me
I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your headI heard just what you said
That’s why you’ve got to be threatened by me
[CHORUS]
You should be watching me, you should feel threatened
Why you sleep, why you creep, you should be threatened
Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me, threatened
Half of me you’ll never be, so you should feel threatened by me
You think you’re by yourself, but it’s my touch you felt
I’m not a ghost from Hell, but I’ve got a spell on you
Your worst nightmare, it's me, I'm everywhere
In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you
I’m telling you, when you lie under a tomb
I’m the one watching you
That’s why you got to be threatened by me
[CHORUS]
[ROD SERLING VERSE]
The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear.
[CHORUS x 3]
[ROD SERLING OUTRO]
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.
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Well.. Just because it's written it doesn't mean it's true, Michael said.
-I'm thinking on the stone, and the tabloid usually..
We have no pictures.. And Michael had money to buy a crypt just to have one.. :lol:
-It's a memorial place, to remember Michael right now anyways.. I'm sure if he is dead, he is NOT in that CRYPT!
Who knows, before they're writing Michael is probably back..
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No need to be sad,it proves NOTHING!.C'mon guys!!we have seen the memorial, the "funeral" and it's natural that there must be "a grave" with his name on it,otherwhise people all over the world ,authorities will really begin to doubt that he's alive,IT WILL REALLY BECOME TOO DANGEROUS FOR HIM.i mean if Michael wants to stay "dead" and have a normal and peace life away from the spotlight and sucking paparazzi,he must do anything to make people (not,sure, his true fans,cause he's left so many clues for us) sure that he's gone ,NEVER GIVE UP CAUSE OF SUCH TRIFLES,IT PROVES NOTHING!
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The DC says that Michael was buried on 7.7.2009. If you do not except the dates compare it please with murphys DC.
I am really, really sorry, but I think we are here because we want the truth and maybe this is the truth. There are more things which explain that Michael is gone, more than the "proofs" that he is alive.
I am really sorry and sad, but I think this is unfortunately the truth.
Was not the memorial and not the burial held 7.7.2009?? Odd, very odd..
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This is ridiculous, I just point out why Michael might be really dead and there are also a lot of proves for that. I do not say and will not say that the family is behind it. You read too much in my statements. I just show facts from another point of view.
I really hope that I am not right and too negative as you wrote.
i am sorry. i'm dumb with my words sometimes. i'm really sorry and may be i am the one whose actually living in denial. you're right, there are also a lot of proves for that. that he could really be gone.
What really strikes me as denial is the fact that any proof that comes up that Michael is actually gone is totally dismissed as being falsified (every picture and every document has been said to be altered). A good investigator weighs both sides of the situation.
There sure are a lot of odd things about the death of Michael Jackson, but I think the investigation question should be "Why are there so many odd things?" (and I am not talking about looking for hidden clues) I am talking about blatantly odd things.
Instead of coming to the conclusion that there was hoax death before you have any real proof, rather ask what hoax was there? Why do things look a certain way: For example, when I posted the pic of the ambulance and we saw the nose looking odd. I did not say that is NOT Michael there, I said to myself, why does the nose look that way. Start with the odd thing and work to a truth, don't be blinded with love and stubborn thoughts (like all of us are when we care for someone) and if there are hidden truths they will come out.
If you care for him and not for your own grief you will find the right answers, not what you want to hear. It could be that Michael is gone and his family or him needs someone to follow the oddities to a truth that shines a new life on his life.
Define your purpose. Help him or help you?
Don't yell at me.. I am a nice person who also cared for him as a human being. :|
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"Michael Jackson, the "King of Pop", was buried in the Great Mausoleum in July of 2009."
July 2009?
I don't think we should worry, it's just a tourist guide.
I
find that very strange because they first said that there was a stained glass window above Michael's grave that was the LAST SUPPER...?
Does anyone remember that . :roll:
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They know nothing myself. :?
I still remember the past with the Communion
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I think just by the very nature that this Karen Faye keeps trying to push it down our throats that MJ is in the Great Mausoleum-by posting supposed pics of his crypt and insisting that he is there-raises my suspicions of her. In my mind, logic tells me that one would not invest so much energy in trying to prove something if they knew in their heart that it (death) was true and they were at peace with it. For her to go out on a limb suggests that she is serving as a decoy to cover for someone or something. In my opinion, it adds to the diversion and mystery of it all. Michael is probably reading this and laughing right now-I am certain he is loving it!
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I think just by the very nature that this Karen Faye keeps trying to push it down our throats that MJ is in the Great Mausoleum-by posting supposed pics of his crypt and insisting that he is there-raises my suspicions of her. In my mind, logic tells me that one would not invest so much energy in trying to prove something if they knew in their heart that it (death) was true and they were at peace with it. For her to go out on a limb suggests that she is serving as a decoy to cover for someone or something. In my opinion, it adds to the diversion and mystery of it all. Michael is probably reading this and laughing right now-I am certain he is loving it!
She must be retarded :lol: She has visited the grave already more than all of Michaels family member ever will do together :roll:
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Oh, that's nothing... They even wrote he was buried in July and assume, that the name will be engraved soon without having any facts. I would assume that as well, because everything else screams hoax or lack of interest. They should do it to make the "death" look more real. ;-)
OK. July, lets focus. Have you ever thought about that the family just said he was buried in September but in reality was not? So there are questions that something is wrong right, so why do we believe that the family (remember they controled everything) has presented as facts that Michael was buried in September. We do not know who is right or wrong, BUT there is a posibility that September is not true, so how we can know the thruth?
Have you seen the DC there is written July, not September. So we do not know and I think it is healthy to think about that Michael could be realy dead, there are more proves for that then the other side. I wish it would be not like that...
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"Michael Jackson, the "King of Pop", was buried in the Great Mausoleum in July of 2009."
July 2009?
I don't think we should worry, it's just a tourist guide.
I
find that very strange because they first said that there was a stained glass window above Michael's grave that was the LAST SUPPER...?
Does anyone remember that . :roll:
Yes, I do remember it too, but they said that it was only for the public visiting (with the last supper). Michael was buried in a private place where only the family can go to, so I think that there is again a misunderstanding by that. I have seen the vidio on Youtube where you can see it and a reporter commented it. I´ll take a look.
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The DC says that Michael was buried on 7.7.2009. If you do not except the dates compare it please with murphys DC.
I am really, really sorry, but I think we are here because we want the truth and maybe this is the truth. There are more things which explain that Michael is gone, more than the "proofs" that he is alive.
I am really sorry and sad, but I think this is unfortunately the truth.
Was not the memorial and not the burial held 7.7.2009?? Odd, very odd..
Yes you are right, but the family was before the public memorial service at Forest Lawn! And what I do not know and have asked several times here, what have they done after the public memorial service. I remember that the comment on tv was that maybe Michael will be buried after the public memorial service..and I do remeber that a family member said (I do not know who I think it was Joe) that Michael was not even in the coffin at the public memorial service. So which conclusion would you like to make that he is not dead or that he was buried in July what is written in the DC ...It is up to us what we want to believe or not. But these are facts too!
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KF's role in the hoax is to create diversions away from believing it's a hoax.
The funeral program stated internment (missing, confined), not interment (burial). Either a typo or a clue.
Shout, I think we all have good and bad days as it relates to Michael's "death". We don't have 100% proof of either, but we sure have dozens of inconsistencies, weirdness, and oddities of events and people involved. I just hope one day we know for sure and I keep praying and hoping that it is a hoax and Michael is alive!
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"Michael Jackson, the "King of Pop", was buried in the Great Mausoleum in July of 2009."
July 2009?
I don't think we should worry, it's just a tourist guide.
thats a big hint he wasnt buried in july wasnt he supposedly buried in september lol
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"Michael Jackson, the "King of Pop", was buried in the Great Mausoleum in July of 2009."
July 2009?
I don't think we should worry, it's just a tourist guide.
thats a big hint he wasnt buried in july wasnt he supposedly buried in september lol
The DC say 7.7.2009 JULY...read the whole thread
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They´re perfectionists; all of the Jacksons.
They had some time to "prepare" the funeral/burial. I think if he is really entombed there, wouldn´t they have engraved it before that? Why wait five months? Don´t believe it.
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They are not that perfect. I just saw RTL where they have talked about celebreties and there was said that the family still has not payed for the memorial service. It doesn´t sound as if they were perfectionists ;)
They also said that he is dead
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It's just a website, if I want , I can open a website and write in it that I come from prehistory, but iy's wrong ! :lol:
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If he is really in ...it
First, no body can be next to him ! ! ! !
Liz want to be there, but she can't :?
So why the places will be so expensive now ?
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No doubt Michael's name and an epitaph will be added soon.
I've read this article months ago but I didn't worry about it...
This person wasn't 100% sure...this person just speculated about it..so why the worrying?
And I think that Michaels name is not on the Crypt there, yet? ;)
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Michael Jackson is dead,there will be no come back,you have your proof.
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^ huh. still no engraving.
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Michael Jackson is dead,there will be no come back,you have your proof.
DONT BE SO NEGATIVE PLZ, IF U REALLY THINK THAT HE IS DEAD THAN GIVE SOME PROOFS,WE HAVE MORE PROOFS THAT HE IS ALIVE THAN THAT HE IS DEAD,IF U DONT THINK SO JUST MOVE ON AND JOIN OTHER RIP GROUPS PLZ, THE MAN IS ALIVE AND AMEN TO IT.PEACE.
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sorry of thread, i am posting this a few places this will give you hope
jermaine's slip up 0.18 - mikes at the airport
[youtube:ie3s8fny]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0SoaOe-cs&feature=related[/youtube:ie3s8fny]
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Michael Jackson is dead,there will be no come back,you have your proof.
DONT BE SO NEGATIVE PLZ, IF U REALLY THINK THAT HE IS DEAD THAN GIVE SOME PROOFS,WE HAVE MORE PROOFS THAT HE IS ALIVE THAN THAT HE IS DEAD,IF U DONT THINK SO JUST MOVE ON AND JOIN OTHER RIP GROUPS PLZ, THE MAN IS ALIVE AND AMEN TO IT.PEACE.
I'm not being negative I'm being real.Didn't you read this post? I can think what I want,this post just gave me more reason to believe he's dead than alive.Don't get me wrong I want to believe he's still here.So you have proof?Can I see it?Otherwise I will believe what I want,and YOU can keep it moving.
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Michael Jackson is dead,there will be no come back,you have your proof.
DONT BE SO NEGATIVE PLZ, IF U REALLY THINK THAT HE IS DEAD THAN GIVE SOME PROOFS,WE HAVE MORE PROOFS THAT HE IS ALIVE THAN THAT HE IS DEAD,IF U DONT THINK SO JUST MOVE ON AND JOIN OTHER RIP GROUPS PLZ, THE MAN IS ALIVE AND AMEN TO IT.PEACE.
I'm not being negative I'm being real.Didn't you read this post? I can think what I want,this post just gave me more reason to believe he's dead than alive.Don't get me wrong I want to believe he's still here.So you have proof?Can I see it?Otherwise I will believe what I want,and YOU can keep it moving.
please explain your view- thank you
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Maybe he is dead.. all i know that there is a cover up going on here. No-one else, apart from us here, seem to care about the lying and inconsistencies.
Justice for Michael please. Justice.
well said
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Michael Jackson is dead,there will be no come back,you have your proof.
DONT BE SO NEGATIVE PLZ, IF U REALLY THINK THAT HE IS DEAD THAN GIVE SOME PROOFS,WE HAVE MORE PROOFS THAT HE IS ALIVE THAN THAT HE IS DEAD,IF U DONT THINK SO JUST MOVE ON AND JOIN OTHER RIP GROUPS PLZ, THE MAN IS ALIVE AND AMEN TO IT.PEACE.
I'm not being negative I'm being real.Didn't you read this post? I can think what I want,this post just gave me more reason to believe he's dead than alive.Don't get me wrong I want to believe he's still here.So you have proof?Can I see it?Otherwise I will believe what I want,and YOU can keep it moving.
I totally agree with you. I also want to believe he is alive but here I cant find any non-crazy proof nor clue. People here ask for proofs about he is dead, here I have the most relevant proof: he will not come back. It hurts, but this is reality.
Sorry for my bad english :?
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but thats not proof
we have the helicopter - moving guy
we have jermaine saying he was at the airport
we have janet saying - well she cant remember where she was
we have frank getting to the hospital before mike - well he would because mike went to the airport his brother said
we have a nurse and not a doctor saying things look bad
we have jermaine changing his shirt and putting his collar up before he gives a speech
we KF sell pics and getting upset with fans
we have KF saying she put ordinary make up on a dried skinned, deposing corpse
we have frank being interviewed post death saying he was speaking to mike the other night and he still wants to do the shows
i dont know everything
but there is some proof that he is alive
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Michael Jackson is dead,there will be no come back,you have your proof.
DONT BE SO NEGATIVE PLZ, IF U REALLY THINK THAT HE IS DEAD THAN GIVE SOME PROOFS,WE HAVE MORE PROOFS THAT HE IS ALIVE THAN THAT HE IS DEAD,IF U DONT THINK SO JUST MOVE ON AND JOIN OTHER RIP GROUPS PLZ, THE MAN IS ALIVE AND AMEN TO IT.PEACE.
I'm not being negative I'm being real.Didn't you read this post? I can think what I want,this post just gave me more reason to believe he's dead than alive.Don't get me wrong I want to believe he's still here.So you have proof?Can I see it?Otherwise I will believe what I want,and YOU can keep it moving.
I totally agree with you. I also want to believe he is alive but here I cant find any non-crazy proof nor clue. People here ask for proofs about he is dead, here I have the most relevant proof: he will not come back. It hurts, but this is reality.
Sorry for my bad english :?
Thank you,I totally agree with you.
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@word , hello please respond ta
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@word , hello please respond ta
Michael's passing is hard for alot of people to accept,and maybe its easier to believe he's alive to ease your pain,but you have no concrete evidence that he is still here.My proof?The memorial and the entombment of Michael Jackson.The whole world can't be in on a hoax,if it were true they would 've been found Michael by now,especially with the stun gun events concerning his children,Michael would have come back and taken his babbies with him,and he would have blown his cover.To be honest Michael had no reason to fake his death,by doing this what is he proving?The media is still in his business.Dead or alive they will not leave him alone.To fake his death will probably kill his career,oh yeah even in death he still has one.If you noticed that since he died,he is now finally getting the respect he should have gotten when he was living,why come back and destroy it? Michael has nothing else to prove,especially to the racist ass media.No one is going to put an innocent man on trial for manslaughter if a death did not indeed take place,this is America, not the movies.Michael is gone ,and now its time to bring his killer(s) to justice.To me its a waste of time trying to prove he's still living when all that wasted energy should be put into bringing Michael's murderer(s) to justice.One thing everyone needs to understand is this,Michael Jackson loved being Michael Jackson,no matter the B.S. he went through,no matter the pain,he loved being Michael Jackson,not only for himself ,but for his beloved fans,to come back as someone else would be a slap in the face not only to his fans but his family too,Now why am I here?I am here to find leads on how such a tragedy be allowed to happen.I hope this answers your question,peace.
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@ word i agree that mike loved being mike, i think that is true i do not think he has transformed himself to look like joe blogs
i dont believe that the hoax is for the media - your right there
the media will make money out of anything
he has cleared his reputation to the extent that pp are interested or care
he was of course innocent of all the rubbish i do not need to repeat this
but you have not explained to me the helicopter movements?
if there is a hoax - i believe it is to get out of the contract
so far as cm is concerned - well it depends how much legal insurance he has - well its amercia
i find you amazing - you must be a strong person to be on the site and to have your views - respect that
i look forward to your response
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@word , hello please respond ta
Michael's passing is hard for alot of people to accept,and maybe its easier to believe he's alive to ease your pain,but you have no concrete evidence that he is still here.My proof?The memorial and the entombment of Michael Jackson.The whole world can't be in on a hoax,if it were true they would 've been found Michael by now,especially with the stun gun events concerning his children,Michael would have come back and taken his babbies with him,and he would have blown his cover.To be honest Michael had no reason to fake his death,by doing this what is he proving?The media is still in his business.Dead or alive they will not leave him alone.To fake his death will probably kill his career,oh yeah even in death he still has one.If you noticed that since he died,he is now finally getting the respect he should have gotten when he was living,why come back and destroy it? Michael has nothing else to prove,especially to the racist ass media.No one is going to put an innocent man on trial for manslaughter if a death did not indeed take place,this is America, not the movies.Michael is gone ,and now its time to bring his killer(s) to justice.To me its a waste of time trying to prove he's still living when all that wasted energy should be put into bringing Michael's murderer(s) to justice.One thing everyone needs to understand is this,Michael Jackson loved being Michael Jackson,no matter the B.S. he went through,no matter the pain,he loved being Michael Jackson,not only for himself ,but for his beloved fans,to come back as someone else would be a slap in the face not only to his fans but his family too,Now why am I here?I am here to find leads on how such a tragedy be allowed to happen.I hope this answers your question,peace.
Very well explained Word. I see your point and agree. There is still more evidence for the fact that Michael Jackson died, althought a lot of things do not add up, but this does not automatically prove that Michael is alive! Especially the last few weeks underline his death
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@ word i agree that mike loved being mike, i think that is true i do not think he has transformed himself to look like joe blogs
i dont believe that the hoax is for the media - your right there
the media will make money out of anything
he has cleared his reputation to the extent that pp are interested or care
he was of course innocent of all the rubbish i do not need to repeat this
but you have not explained to me the helicopter movements?
if there is a hoax - i believe it is to get out of the contract
so far as cm is concerned - well it depends how much legal insurance he has - well its amercia
@word - please respond - thank you
i find you amazing - you must be a strong person to be on the site and to have your views - respect that
i look forward to your response
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@ word i agree that mike loved being mike, i think that is true i do not think he has transformed himself to look like joe blogs
i dont believe that the hoax is for the media - your right there
the media will make money out of anything
he has cleared his reputation to the extent that pp are interested or care
he was of course innocent of all the rubbish i do not need to repeat this
but you have not explained to me the helicopter movements?
if there is a hoax - i believe it is to get out of the contract
so far as cm is concerned - well it depends how much legal insurance he has - well its amercia
i find you amazing - you must be a strong person to be on the site and to have your views - respect that
i look forward to your response
@Shout thaanks,@arabian nights ,let me answer a few more questions.I don't think Michael has to go to the extreme to get out of a contract.All he had to say was he was sick.With all the trips to the doctor right before the tour was announced it wouldn't be hard to believe.Now the helicopter movements,I believe it was a different angle from the camera or maybe a decoy was used to throw off the media,to be able to move Michael's body properly and that's a biiiig if.Although it has been said that it is not illegal to fake your death,it is if you're doing it to get out of a binding contract.AEG lost 30 million dollars of production,because of Michael's passing,they cant even use any of the production that cost them millions.In order to recoupe all that money they the "This is it" rehearsals a movie.Arabian nights I thank you for your kind words ,open mind and respect.