Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: naomifury on January 07, 2010, 11:44:06 PM

Title: Harvey's Twitter Post about MJ's investigation
Post by: naomifury on January 07, 2010, 11:44:06 PM
I just saw this on Twitter, but the link didn't lead to anything. Did it work for anyone else?

HarveyLevinTMZ:    Investigation into Michael Jackson's death is complete: http://su.pr/1IyLqB (http://su.pr/1IyLqB)
Title: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on January 07, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-death-investigation-lapd-manslaughter/

 :cry:
Title: Re: Harvey's Twitter Post about MJ's investigation
Post by: kdkennedy74 on January 07, 2010, 11:49:14 PM
Michael Jackson Death Investigation Complete
Posted Jan 8th 2010 12:30AM by TMZ Staff

The LAPD investigation into Michael Jackson's death has been completed and the case will go the D.A. within weeks, law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... and, we're told, it's all but certain Dr. Conrad Murray will be criminally charged in MJ's death.

Our sources say detectives completed their investigation late last month and the case will be formally presented to the Los Angeles County District Attorney as soon as scheduling allows. Turns out ... the presentation will draw quite the crowd. A number of members of the LAPD and the D.A.'s office will be present, and finding a date when everyone can show is a little tricky ... but we're told it will happen in a matter of weeks.

One very informed source says the LAPD investigation was "exhaustive" and "extremely thorough" and the D.A. has enough evidence to pull the trigger on a criminal case against Dr. Murray. That said, we're told the case is complicated, in part because Dr. Murray did not break any laws in administering Propofol to Jackson.

One law enforcement source connected with the case notes the D.A. has been actively working with the LAPD and it's all but certain the case will be filed. As for the charge -- a decision has not been made, but our sources say the likelihood is involuntary manslaughter, which requires a showing of gross negligence.


How can they say that Dr. Murray did not break any laws in administering Propofol when he was not licensed to administer anesthesia AND he administered it in a home based setting without the proper equipment?  That sounds pretty illegal to me!
Title: Re: Harvey's Twitter Post about MJ's investigation
Post by: naomifury on January 07, 2010, 11:52:34 PM
Exactly!  That makes no sense to me at all.  I thought it was clear that Murray was in the wrong, so how they think otherwise confuses me
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: CassandrellaEh on January 07, 2010, 11:58:51 PM
:cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: bec on January 08, 2010, 12:02:36 AM
"Within weeks". Bah. And how many times have we heard this before?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on January 08, 2010, 12:05:27 AM
Don't worry guys. Keep the faith! Murray has to be charged, everyone's questioning why isn't he get caught yet. So yeah they have do charged him to shut people questioning this question again. So even if he got charged - I think it's just simply for show. Don't worry.  ;)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjthelegendlives on January 08, 2010, 12:06:54 AM
It's all but certain Dr. Conrad Murray will be criminally charged in MJ's death.  There is a "but" there...and again I'd like to know who these sources are.  They have proof but the case will be presented within weeks.  How many weeks TMZ? same amount of weeks it took them to investigate?  they'll come up with something soon...
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjlovebug on January 08, 2010, 12:08:32 AM
:D This is it! Michael will take us places that we never been. Keep the faith!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lotus_sutra on January 08, 2010, 12:09:30 AM
Quote from: "bec"
"Within weeks". Bah. And how many times have we heard this before?


 :D Completely agree... I will be concerned if there is a GJ indictment and a trial goes through, and there better not be any moving faces on pictures behind the judges head :lol: !!!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Iused2dream on January 08, 2010, 12:12:49 AM
"take us places we've never been before"....yeah, like the crazy house.  I don't think I have EVER had this many ups/downs even while riding a roller coaster at an amusement park.  One minute I'm happy, next I'm sad, next I'm gonna throw up and then back up to elated, and on & on & on.....
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lynnandsofee on January 08, 2010, 12:14:05 AM
Did you see what it said "He did not commit any crime by giving Michael that drug :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjthelegendlives on January 08, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
Ok I think I'm reading too much into this, and my language barrier is being a problem, today...Can someone tell me in simpler words what does the phrase "all but certain" mean?  It sounds like a doubtful statement, right? or am I wrong? :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: darkchild on January 08, 2010, 12:19:04 AM
Agree with many of the comments said here! I will wait to see what happens first with Murray.  MJ, I love you too much to throw in the towel.  I am not going to give up the faith.  I have to many unanswered questions about what happened to our beloved MJ. I will not rest until I understand what happened on June 25, 2009 to MJ.  I just love him to much to give up on him.  My gut tells me that there is something seriously wrong.  I always trust my gut instinct!  MJ, I love you more!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MJJ4ever1958 on January 08, 2010, 12:19:27 AM
sry you guys....its already been posted a few mins before ....but did TMZ report this first??? viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3085 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3085)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: miss j on January 08, 2010, 12:20:53 AM
i have nothing to say.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lotus_sutra on January 08, 2010, 12:21:14 AM
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
Ok I think I'm reading too much into this, and my language barrier is being a problem, today...Can someone tell me in simpler words what does the phrase "all but certain" mean?  It sounds like a doubtful statement, right? or am I wrong? :?


It means they are almost certain there will be a case against him...like a 90% chance...hope this helps. ;)

(lol, I better go to bed, my brain just left me!)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjthelegendlives on January 08, 2010, 12:22:06 AM
Quote from: "MJJ4ever1958"
sry you guys....its already been posted a few mins before ....but did TMZ report this first??? viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3085 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3085)

I've googled MJ news and still no reports on this besides on TMZ, so yeah, I guess theyre the first in reporting....
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: miss j on January 08, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
Ok I think I'm reading too much into this, and my language barrier is being a problem, today...Can someone tell me in simpler words what does the phrase "all but certain" mean?  It sounds like a doubtful statement, right? or am I wrong? :?

it means like..umm.."possibilities". yes, i think you got it right.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjthelegendlives on January 08, 2010, 12:23:56 AM
Quote from: "lotus_sutra"
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
Ok I think I'm reading too much into this, and my language barrier is being a problem, today...Can someone tell me in simpler words what does the phrase "all but certain" mean?  It sounds like a doubtful statement, right? or am I wrong? :?


It means their almost certain there will be a case against him...like a 90% chance...hope this helps. ;)

TY Lotus...This sounds like they're sources aren't that sure about what they're saying...hmm
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: naomifury on January 08, 2010, 12:30:13 AM
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
Quote from: "MJJ4ever1958"
sry you guys....its already been posted a few mins before ....but did TMZ report this first??? viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3085 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=3085)

I've googled MJ news and still no reports on this besides on TMZ, so yeah, I guess theyre the first in reporting....


tmz is the first again....go figure!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: LLJ on January 08, 2010, 01:12:25 AM
Okay, I know there is a big debate going on regarding the validity of BOW.

But she said a lot will happen in Jan and also that Michael controls all news released?..
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: loveumj88 on January 08, 2010, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: "bec"
"Within weeks". Bah. And how many times have we heard this before?

since he's "death" LOL.. Don't lose hope guys.. :)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 01:37:39 AM
u guyz i am so terrified right now my heart just sank so bad so bad...i cant concentrate anymore...what if oh man what if...will michael truly allow Dr. Murray to go to prison just for Michaels sake..i really dont think so...and why did they say Dr. Murray didnt break any laws administring propofol...isnt it illegal to administer in the home...I AM LOSING HOPE!!! I just want to cry right now seriously you guys.. :cry:  :cry: ...i find it strange how TMZ posted this at 12:30AM from TMZ staff...They were no doubt the first to report i mean 12:30 in the middle of the night!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Mel31 on January 08, 2010, 01:40:20 AM
I really like living in a parallel world every day, but when a new like this happens I hit a wall and hurt very badly!  :cry:

I keep the faith but...aww!!i'm tired!

 I think I'll go have a good cry and come back with the, hope and a smile later  :roll:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lotus_sutra on January 08, 2010, 01:43:22 AM
:roll: There are now 4 threads started on this subject...where is the 'MERGE NOW' button  :lol: !!!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 08, 2010, 01:47:41 AM
finding a date so everyone can see the show (reveal) is a little tricky ... but we're told it will happen in a matter of weeks

I think that is what is important in this article!  ;)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Mel31 on January 08, 2010, 01:48:17 AM
where is the 'MERGE NOW' button  :lol: !!![/quote]

 :lol:  i cry and i laugh in same time now  :lol:  :cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Shout on January 08, 2010, 01:54:18 AM
I would like to put this article. It is from a German side and they have mentioned from the beginning that Michael Jackson is alive at the end they say, it does not matter what happens they will not change their mind. I have translated the article with google. I think I still will believe that Michael is alive and give you some hope although it is hard.


Source: http://www.dasbewegtdiewelt.de (http://www.dasbewegtdiewelt.de) (I just searched for Michael Jackson on this side). This side was presented in another hoax side in Germany.

Here we go:

Ice-cold murder ?????? Dubious Jackson's death confirmed: Our suspicions and doubts about themselves. Print Email
Friday the 10th July 2009 at 11:59 Clock

We have so far been reported in 2 articles about the mysterious and very dubious circumstances or events, and our information in connection with the death of Michael Jackson .......:

Mysterious death! Pop star Jackson still alive? Sensitive information to lead us to Paraguay! 1,000-euro bet

and

Jackson's death - there will always be curious! Evidence of mega-scandal condense!
After a few us then begin immediately, "smartly" and "upper-doubters" to massively attacked and silly mails written - have now also confirmed reports that come directly from the police from Los Angeles (after 2 weeks) - our first thoughts, information, suspicions and doubts that there's something wrong and was enormously lazy. The fact that you should be by the mass media - in the mass as a mass - often just fucked and sold for stupid, do not have to be new! The only way I can explain to me that one ...... every day, the biggest pipes, rivets, losers, liars, actors, idiots, self-promoter, only Geldgeil, egoists, crack heads, etc. on television, or their waste and scrap regularly published in newspapers, magazines or on websites. Just that - what's happening now - is further proof that we

- Also have here - some very good contacts and have information from which others can only dream of - even if many still! do not want to believe.

Background: After everything (in the context first of all) for public use as normal and without incident as a "commonplace-death" was published - and some of us because of our articles and info to go with it as a "freak" and "conspiracy theorist" is put, is Now in investigating the alleged death of pop star Michael Jackson and the possibility of a murder on the part of police

no longer excluded. The investigations in this direction is now in full swing.

Now, suddenly take the tests, doubts and unresolved questions of allegedly first clear and perfectly innocuous circumstances of Jackson's death, quite huge volume of go in all directions - jaja!

The police chief of Los Angeles, Bill Bratton, said now presents to the television channel CNN - but you should also have no doubt already have noticed in various media in recent hours.

We had already betting on huge insurance and noted that have a "death" of the context / had!

Just a reminder: We had written: "When the doctor suspects but is not" yet "." Yes, not then - and now?

Other - allegedly exaggerated and the fetched statements - one of us then - suddenly turn out as facts and new insights - that `s stuff!

It was quite clear that in the public once the "life celebration" and then keeps the wind - in other words, the news coverage - to be huge turn.

If you continue to want to read about them, so no unnecessary speculation, false reports, or just trash from the mass media - then you come to us and let us also ask to all people in your environment, the issue of Jackson's death " and the real interest backgrounds.

Yes, you can also entries in boards, forums, blogs, etc. to use.

We keep you here with

the true facts, facts and circumstances, up to date - in conspiracies and pointless speculation we do not participate - and nowhere!
All of our eternal critics and doubters should according to current news (where our nose ... etc. have been confirmed once again) now hold but finally the impudent flap and superior in the future, perhaps not even a little bit better, whether some of our articles and more easily once set down only as spinning, or showing off.

We're off to the cause and have encountered some scorching tracks, and our information and knowledge to become more explosive and scandalous.

I'm curious about when to even officially on the - in this context has "disappeared" or the "low shot comes to speak" to!

But the whole thing costs a lot of money and nerves - a lot of money and even more nervous. The only way!

Also, the video footage surfaced now - from just before his "death", during rehearsals for the tour - show a very healthy, agile and totally fitten Michael Jackson. Of fatal illness, painkillers, etc. .... no trace.

Then it was a natural death, now apparently may Murder and the truth .........

But even that may not be the whole truth.

We had written: "Jackson is alive!" - And we stick to it!

But what is even more important to you than the result here and everything related to Michael Jackson still "will get high" is the following
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Shout on January 08, 2010, 02:05:27 AM
Jackson's death - there will always be curious! Evidence of mega-scandal condense! Print Email
Wednesday, 08th July 2009 at 11:18 Clock


We were already in our article vom 27.06.2009 with the title:

Mysterious death! Pop star Jackson still alive? Sensitive information to lead us to Paraguay! 1,000-euro bet
addresses some incredible and mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of Michael Jackson. After our report later - just a few hours - have entered into a number of other well-known and big TV stations, as well as magazines, newspapers and websites on our information and our footsteps, or should I say "feet". It did not change after their research

allegedly proved that some obvious and insurmountable gaps, inconsistencies and oddities are in space, it might be worth / would be enlightened.

I have deliberately waited with the publication of this article until today, because

since we currently can not yet provide a sufficient evidence to the last detail for some really incredible suspicions and evidence, we would allow the final days of stop by there once a little rest, we are not involved in any speculation or conspiracy theories, and hence before the official memorial ceremony yesterday to nothing more to say.

No matter what there really is / was or what the next few months to come to light yet - but the one requires decency, conscience and respect for the death itself, that one is just as well as holding back something and the people who want to grieve, mourn times can be easily.

But some of it I would like to

yesterday - ".................." - Funeral still say:

The appearance and posturing of Brooke Shields was really unbearable and very big puppet show, and if it is alleged to basketball legend Magic Johnson was the greatest experience of his life - he said - that he views almost to the bottom of the Neverland Ranch with a bucket Jackson -Food eaten chicken, then I ask myself quite in earnest, if some people here are still very close?

I understand and I see also that one has put on at such a moment, the good side of the Dead "and brings personal experience with, but as a completely reality principle, and about 20 trillion percent covered trash we must not cease to really.

It is really little more than pathetic and ridiculous, if we must force to such statements or gestures, or can be carried away - but when one is accustomed to large audiences and big emotions.
Those are old hands in the business and superstars who do not make the first time before an audience of millions, what, then .........

Nowhere is a lie to the world as much as:
- Before an election or a wedding,
- During a funeral
and
- After a hunt!

That was yesterday

the parade again proof that the saying of what is using it!

The organizers of the Jackson - theater probably had not even thought of himself in the approach and expected that the whole is already a billion dollar business within a few days. The press reported on the front pages only about the storm and the people around the world, the record stores to Jackson CDs and all, where Jackson is on it.

Even age-old - signed by Jackson - Tour tickets on ebay prices reaching several hundred dollars - that's just madness.

But I am in good spirits, that we

You can say many things because sometimes more, because we have some info and traces on the heels of that are truly amazing (I will return again to it).

Another sad news, I would like but do not conceal it.

In Paraguay, there are now pursued in the context, 4 persons, the various dubious things and circumstances are and were on a "good, correct and hot way" to have been gunned down - 2 people have disappeared without trace and were allegedly still currently missing.

There are thus 2 questions:


1. Why do we proceed with such an incredible tough and brutality against people who allegedly groping in the dark and things and circumstances are on the trail, which will give it and not at allegedly being presented only as fantasies?

2. Should one not consider whether we can under these circumstances, the matter should not simply be left aside, because it certainly looks like this:

There are a lot of money and operates a large expenditure for this - just to make themselves artificially into a danger which we have not really needed.


It's like smoking: Since you are also a lot of money for it, only to injure himself to health - in other words, one begs the question of whether it purely from reason and reflection should not be more usefully stop.
It also has a lot of effort to earn money, which they then spend on cigarettes, which are not even healthy, but just the opposite - that is infected too!

We stand now at a crossroads, because:

"? It is very dangerous to be right when the government and the masses are wrong, or the number of men and women does not fit into the stuff."
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 02:14:03 AM
err that article sounds horrible...the english is all over the place and i cant make out what they are trying to say... but um thanks for trying to help i guess thank you truly...i think i am just going to have to take a break for a bit and come back and read further...but i am nervous very nervous bout what is about to go on i am in deep depression just thinking about all we have done to the family and other fans for not acting proper about michaels death...we questioned everyones emotions and they really were trying to deal with michael death...some even questions paris's tears at the memorial OMGosh we are horrible!!! :o  :cry:  :cry:  I pray tonight for good news tomoro in regards to Michaels Death
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: farhatmjj on January 08, 2010, 02:30:57 AM
Yes we ARE horrible! :( And it hurts much much more than it did way back in june. People are slowly moving on by now and we just lost him all over again. Just think how Michael would have been feeling this 6 months, we questioned his kid's tears, his mother's, brother's and the whole family's grief. We didn't pray for his soul to get peace. We took everything as a joke, we laughed at their words. Mostly, WE WISHED HIS MURDERER TO BE FREE. we just hurt Michael all this months. Our lives are going to be hell by people laughin at us and telling us how FOOLISH we were acting all these days. Oh god have some mercy.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Game Player on January 08, 2010, 02:48:31 AM
Q:

How come everyone that has got in contact with investigators or the LAPD has been told personally that the investigation wont wrap up until January, while these people are saying it wrapped up last month?


Doesn't make sense to me!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 02:49:40 AM
I Feel like i just now lost him...Now my denial is over and it took 7 months to figure it out, Michael I hope you forgive me for all we put you and your family through, I really do because I don't know if i can forgive myself...I promise to you and to myself that i won't be so disrespectful to your family and the ones who deeply care for you. I am Deeply torn by all of this now...I shall go into mourning process now...Peace to You and Your Family Michael. God Bless You!!!   :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry: RIP Michael Jackson  :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 02:51:27 AM
Quote from: "Game Player"
Q:

How come everyone that has got in contact with investigators or the LAPD has been told personally that the investigation wont wrap up until January, while these people are saying it wrapped up last month?


Doesn't make sense to me!
Maybe they found the evidence they were looking for and needed to actually make this a case or something...things changed...although i dont know why if it was finished last month that they waited so long to tell us the news :evil:  :evil:  kinda makes me very angry about that
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjisthemuses on January 08, 2010, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: "LLJ"
Okay, I know there is a big debate going on regarding the validity of BOW.

But she said a lot will happen in Jan and also that Michael controls all news released?..



you are right.....didn't she say that there will be a news about hoax and investigation???
so is she legit?? how if we ask her about the truth of this news? what is this mean? am starting to believe her.... :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Grace on January 08, 2010, 03:18:43 AM
Countenance, countenance my dears.

There's nothing to be afraid of.
This is wake-up time, in order to get the things revealed somebody must start talking, right?
How would you like to start it?
Michael coming on stage and saying: "oh geez, I am so sorry, but it was a hoax"?
There is so much still to come.
If you faint now, you will miss all the best - so get your cold water in immediate reach ;-)

If this court case will be of same character as those with the child support, I will have to keep myself from laughing and falling off the chair.

REMEMBER that Michael NEVER let us down.
He ALWAYS gave us ALL INDICATIONS to let us KEEP THE FAITH.

Do you really expect Mr. Murray going to court and jail?
A person that wrote a public letter to his "fans": "In my absence, I will continue to manage the practice, and be involved as much as possible but it will be from a distance."

An actor, whose voice and behaviour was being altered in the "Thank you" video to ressemble Michael and to thank his friends for their "continued support"?
This was first class technique.
"They mean the world to me!" Remember that sentence?
You continued supporters mean the world to Michael.

HEADS UP, ladies, there is nothing to fear and all to expect.
Relax, get your popcorn and enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: CassandrellaEh on January 08, 2010, 03:23:32 AM
Thank you Grace! You have no idea how much your words just helped me. This has been such a hard night.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 03:29:08 AM
im just really scared that we are making a huge mockery out of the funeral and memorial if he really is gone then we were really disrespectful to his family.. BUT i am going to pick myself up off the ground from that horrible fall, hold my head up high, and continue with this investigation. I knew this journey would be a difficult one and i would run into things that i did not like. So I am going oto finish what i started.
Michael I am Here for you the whole way. But i have to admit Michael you are giving me one hell of a ride. Love you more and as always, It's All For L.O.V.E.

thank you grace for those words deeply thankful for that
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Grace on January 08, 2010, 03:38:49 AM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
im just really scared that we are making a huge mockery out of the funeral and memorial if he really is gone then we were really disrespectful to his family.. BUT i am going to pick myself up off the ground from that horrible fall, hold my head up high, and continue with this investigation. I knew this journey would be a difficult one and i would run into things that i did not like. So I am going oto finish what i started.
Michael I am Here for you the whole way. But i have to admit Michael you are giving me one hell of a ride. Love you more and as always, It's All For L.O.V.E.

thank you grace for those words deeply thankful for that

We are NOT being disrespectful to Michael's family.
Have you forgotten about all the pictures where they are HAVING A GREAT TIME at memorial and burial? If they can laugh, so can we and it does not harm any respect from our hearts at all.

Btw memorials and burials are not meant to be sad.
They are meant to say good-bye and to feel the brotherhood with the others saying good-bye. In the know that we will meet again.
Nothing else.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Mystery_86 on January 08, 2010, 03:43:14 AM
THANK YOU Grace, you are fantastic :) ! And you are soooo right ! I really don't understand all this grief after reading that article. Remember - something finally has to start happen because all this situation for many people is too weird. They have to start mentioning investigation , dr Murray and all these things. But FBI is helping Michael, so there is no need to woryy! Just trust Him guys :) ! You cannot be let down by such articles and news, there will be probably more of them before MJ will come back, but this is normal :)
Kisses ! :*
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MJalive999 on January 08, 2010, 03:59:57 AM
PLS! BEFORE A HEART ATTACK, SEE THIS VIDEO!


[youtube:2g4sphxz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO6Kc2jbH1w[/youtube:2g4sphxz]
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Bellexx on January 08, 2010, 04:05:59 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
PLS! BEFORE A HEART ATTACK, SEE THIS VIDEO!
Eh, the video has been removed? Couldn't open it anyway...  :(
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjisthemuses on January 08, 2010, 04:08:33 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
PLS! BEFORE A HEART ATTACK, SEE THIS VIDEO!


[youtube:n3b08574]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfYvdYq738[/youtube:n3b08574]


the video has been removed
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: mjisthemuses on January 08, 2010, 04:09:28 AM
@MJalive999, what it's all about? thanks
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 04:22:28 AM
aww man i didnt get to see it the video was removed for some strange reason
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: llebreknit on January 08, 2010, 04:46:05 AM
If Murray goes to prision, will you accept he is gone? maybe this is the best for him to rest in peace although I am sure there will be people who will go on thinking he is alive  :|
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: juliet on January 08, 2010, 04:47:40 AM
Guys, I wish I can warm all the hearts that feel low with different info/news feed.  There will be more news/info feeds coming and you should be so proud of yourselves for holding on to what is not being shown - that Michael is alive.  I do believe that he is alive because there's not one person/feed or anything that would come out with the truth.  We all know that all they can give us are inconsistencies because they just don't know how to twist the truth with all their refining lies which makes it more obvious that they are all hanging on to the skin of their teeth.

I wrote something months ago, and please have a read, at least it will comfort you and keep your strength as you have been holding on to it with so much love for Michael.

THE GOLDEN BOX :

The never ending flow,
Of feeds and informations,
Are still being thrown,
To those with different intentions.

No one can deny,
The sight of the Golden Box,
Supposed to have the contents,
Of the physicality of Michael.

No one can be fooled,
When there's no actual proof,
Where many among the crowd,
Speculate more than the badge.

The Golden Box would indicate,
A void that would explain,
The significance being held,
In bidding it farewell.

It's just an empty box,
And that the majority knows,
The meaning would be profound,
Of which he'll never be bound.

To fathom will not be easy,
But with the heart one will clearly see,
With what he has endured,
Has been poured into the box.

Everything that has been haunting,
Created by his fame,
He has to let go off,
And put it all in the box.

The numerous assaults,
By the media and the journalists,
Who claim to have the freedom,
Of speech to justify their filths.

The box would be filled with burdens,
From the start of being praised,
Then loved and being used,
Which is all too delusive.

The Golden Box would be,
A very poignant stage,
The release from all hypocrisy,
Which is kept from the majority.

The Golden Box is indeed,
The platform to start anew,
Took time, trust and courage,
For all his demons to be buried.

The metaphorical touch,
Of this Golden Box,
Signifies his knowledge of the truth,
And his resiliency to be wiser.

From this point onwards,
With the value of life in his hands,
He must be guided well,
To continue in making a difference.

There will be no more fretting,
It's time he has decided,
To clean out the air,
And take his place that he deserves.

J U L I E T ***
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 05:06:59 AM
Um there are so many different emotions going through me right now, to me if Dr.Murray goes to jail Its over. That would be taking it too far...Since the beginning of this investigation The fat that Murray was stilll free and practicing medicine made me think that Michael was still alive...Maybe the whole switch off in the helicopter ( one body had black straps when getting boarded on helicopter, and then came off flat with no straps)to the coroners van was to make people follow that body instead of Michael's real body or something... IDK right now i am just confused and lost and dont know which way to turn gosh i just wanna scream!!!1 :(  :|
Title: Re: Harvey's Twitter Post about MJ's investigation
Post by: Lady J on January 08, 2010, 05:10:15 AM
Oh no when he gets arrested the game is over for me
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 08, 2010, 05:14:14 AM
Keep the Faith!  The Great Adventure is not over yet!!  8-)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on January 08, 2010, 05:14:46 AM
Hey
I merged the topics about the complete investigation and harvey´s twitter post about that.
They both discuss the same. :)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Butterfly J on January 08, 2010, 05:20:37 AM
Yeah, I don´t like that article at all... it makes me think same thing - what if we are wrong, we owe million apologizes to many many people. We should be ashamed... BUT...NO, NO, NO! I won´t lose my faith because of this. Even if Murray goes to jail it doesn´t prove that MJ is gone, it would be probably staged, if it will happen of course;)
I don´t dare to believe BOW 100% but...never know, she makes lot of sense. We´ll see...
Lot of strange things will happen in January... we´ll see...
Take it that way - we´ve been unrespectful all past 6 months, they understand us, they will eventually forgive us if it turns out that we´re wrong.
Hey, ladies: NO RIP! Not now! Hold on tight to not fall from your saddle - we take the ride until the end... or new beginning ;)
Love you !
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on January 08, 2010, 05:25:41 AM
There´s an interesting vid on youtube:
[youtube:h5tebj0f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO6Kc2jbH1w[/youtube:h5tebj0f]

on the one hand Tmz says, "it's all but certain Dr. Conrad Murray will be criminally charged in MJ's death." The other thing is "it's all but certain the case will be filed."

Aren´t these two different things??
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: SEHF on January 08, 2010, 06:15:43 AM
rofl
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on January 08, 2010, 06:17:32 AM
Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"
Keep the Faith!  The Great Adventure is not over yet!!  8-)
:D NO IT IS NOT THAT WILL BE WHEN MJ GOES BAM KEEP THE FAITH IT CANT BE MUCH LONGER :D
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: farhatmjj on January 08, 2010, 06:24:28 AM
You know guys, i've been stuck between my heart and mind! My mind wants to believe he's gone cause it thinks it would be much harder to see someone being charged for Michael's death. And my heart is still telling me to keep the faith and it's kinda excited God knows for what. But i want to cry.  :cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 08, 2010, 06:34:30 AM
He is not gone! There you go people go and say he's gone again, why would you say that after an article like this, this is all part of the hoax can't you see!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 06:37:19 AM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
He is not gone! There you go people go and say he's gone again, why would you say that after an article like this, this is all part of the hoax can't you see!
I dont see why Murray would go to jail if it were a hoax...not really the article but if Murray goes to jail I dont see where to go from there...Michael Wouldnt allow someone to go to jail for a hoax...so if murray gets busted and MJ doesnt come out of hiding or Murray doesnt admit about the hoax to save his ass then i dont see this being a hoax anymore...But we will just have to wait and see the verdict to Murray...but other then that i am at a complete loss as to where to go from here... :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: larab on January 08, 2010, 06:38:09 AM
its sad to see that most of you haven't even considered the possibility of him being dead.
if this is case, I hope that conrad will be in jail for a long time(even though I think that is not gonna happen..it is a difficult case).

we have heard before that he would be prosecuted whitin weeks, but we also heard it would take place sometime between january and february, so..
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 06:43:28 AM
I always knew there would be that possibility...it just sux its almost the end of this investigation and when there is an arrest ...everyone is almost done with their mourning and i will just be startin the whole process...i was more on the side that he was alive rather than dead...just a tiny tiny part me thought he dead and like the rest was all on this investigation...I think i was REALLY hoping he lived because of how everything was treated after Michael's death...I feel like he didnt get a proper memorial or burial or anything...but who knows we may never know...After Murray goes to jail if he goes to jail...i will finally accept it...but prob still go on here to check to see how things have turned and see other ideas people may come up with lol if that makes sense at all to any of you
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 08, 2010, 06:52:55 AM
I rest my case for now, ofcourse there is the possibility that he may be gone but still there is more evidence that he is alive then dead.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 08, 2010, 06:54:56 AM
Quote from: "lynnandsofee"
Did you see what it said "He did not commit any crime by giving Michael that drug :?:  

They right,he didin't commint any crime. Propofol is not a controlled substance, though its very rare to administrate it at home specially with no anesthesiologist available. But the dosage which is still unknown may be his fall.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Shout on January 08, 2010, 07:19:20 AM
Why hadn´t Blackorwhite said that the investigations were allready over last month  :D  ;)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Mystery_86 on January 08, 2010, 07:35:45 AM
Guuuyyysss please :) keep the faith :) ! this is nothing, really NOTHING ! (at least for me). Police is in the hoax, Murray is in the hoax, don't you get that ?:)  And ...TMZ is TMZ  8-) Everything is clear, this is part of the hoax, it has to be done in order to makes it look (this whole story) credible. Even if we will see Murray arrested (eg on photo or video) it will be staged, just like his recently case in court :). We have soo many "evidences" , inconsistencies in this whole "death" of MJ and such a tiny thing (which is also a part of the hoax)  will make you sure that MJ is really dead ?:) Noo way my dears :)

KEEP THE FAITH ! :)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: susie_23 on January 08, 2010, 07:37:33 AM
Okay, I'm sort of freaking out now.
But the part of me that thinks MJ is alive is trying to calm down the part of me that knows he's dead.
Okay, so that article states that the DA and LAPD are supposed to meet, right? In a matter of weeks? What if that day is the 18th? Wasn't something big supposed to happen on that day?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: itsall4love on January 08, 2010, 08:02:29 AM
People please! This is Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators Forum, so don't be inappropriate and keep the RIPs down. :)
It's a TMZ article, haven't we seen many of these until now?
KEEP THE FAITH, I think it says it all.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: SunShine on January 08, 2010, 08:03:46 AM
well this is a bit of a hurdle to get over, but we will.

the drug is meant for a hospital
Murray has been back at work
it's just a little cover up, think about it, we kept saying why this why that, and now they gave us something to work on.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: LLJ on January 08, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
BOW said Murray is involved, but only temporarily and that Michael "invested in AP".

Maybe this is the end for Murray's part?  And if Michael is controlling the press in some
way he can dictate what we get see and what not.  I for one, don't think the song for instance, "leaked" by accident.

She also said that January will be a very interesting month to watch.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Shout on January 08, 2010, 08:57:32 AM
Just to calm you a little bit

I have seen a program on RTL where the chef of BEM predicted that Michael Jackson will not go on stage. And some days ago he was again on a this tv show where they have reflected the year, a guest has mentioned, didn´t you predicted that Michael Jackson will not do the shows and he said yes. I think this is realy strange..I am very shure that he knows something for he is a big man in this business.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: wishinghard on January 08, 2010, 09:05:44 AM
Quote from: "LLJ"
Okay, I know there is a big debate going on regarding the validity of BOW.

But she said a lot will happen in Jan and also that Michael controls all news released?..



that is very true!!! :D  i think she/he is real we just gotta keep beLIEving
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MashMike on January 08, 2010, 09:15:46 AM
Ok as i said guys this is NOTHING,don't give up,we've reached to an interesting point at an interesting time :P .Even if Murray is jailed,it will not mean that Michael is dead!Michael is perfectionist,if he hoaxed his death(and i'm convinced in it),if he pulled off his memorial,"funeral",charges should take place,cause it will seem really unreal,cause more and more people think that smth fishy is goin' on with posponing the charges,even if Murray is charged(and i highly doubt it),it will be a show, a part of a hoax which was planned.We have discovered so many valuable things that lead us to the conclusion that he's ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE!!!!!BRING ME AT LEAST 10 FACTS THAT HE'S GONE(BESIDES MEDIA'S TRASH AND CONTRADICTING INFO).WHY WOULD M.J.'S DEATH-INVESTIGATION END EXACTLY AT ELVIS'S BIRTHDAY??!!!!THERE CANNOT BE SO MANY COINCIDENCES!IT'S UNREAL PEOPLE!.I PERSONALLY WILL NEVER GIVE UP,JUST NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ACSEPT AND IT'D TOO PAINFUL, BUT ALSO CAUSE I HAVE CAME TO MY PERSONAL CONCLUSION AFTER THOSE 7 MONTHS CONSIDERONG ALL THE CLUES THAT HE IS ALIVE AS IS ELVIS.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Mish1981 on January 08, 2010, 09:28:16 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
finding a date so everyone can see the show (reveal) is a little tricky ... but we're told it will happen in a matter of weeks

I think that is what is important in this article!  ;)



That's what struck odd to me in the article as well!!! I don't see how they could say they would have to wait until everyone could get together. Does that make sense to anyone else? Now, I'm only going 30% in on the whole BOW thing because of all the other let downs before, however, didn't this person state that every interview and article that comes out regarding MJ had a message in it? Or something along those lines? Gives us something to think about.

I don't see Murray being charged with this at all.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Secret Dove on January 08, 2010, 09:42:29 AM
Another thing to help calm everyone down. I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here and other threads involving the tmz article. I think it's very interesting what the detective told the fan. Here's the post:

According to the detective on the case, the investigation is not finished. A fan called him and spoke to him on the phone. Here's the transcript of the conversation:

Quote
http://www.mjfanclub.net/mjforum373/sho%20...%20post484458
MJ Family of Fans Worldwide,
A Group of MJ Fans have been calling Detective Smith of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) to find out what is the status of Michael Jackson's ****cide Investigation.
*
Detective Smith, LAPD, Lead Detective in MJ's ****cide Case: direct phone number ~213-486-6908.
*
GIVE THEM A CALL AND LET THEM KNOW MJ FANS WORLDWIDE WANTS ACTION, MOVEMENT and JUSTICE FOR our BELOVED MICHAEL!!!
************************************************** *********************************************
@ejacobs and MJ Family:
I just called and literally had a 5 minutes conversation with Detective Smith: direct phone number ~213-486-6908.

Me: "Am I speaking to Detective Smith?"
Det Smith: "Yes. This is Detective Smith, LAPD."
*
Me: "I'm calling to find out what is going on in Michael Jackson's Investigation. What is taking so long in Michael Jackson's Investigations?"
Det Smith: "We are working on the case and we have alot of Interview to conduct. He was involved with a lot of people and we don't want to miss anything or anyone."
*
Me: "What about Dr. Murray? Have you throughly investiagated and interviewed him?"
Det. Smith: Yes, we have interviewed Dr. Murray extensively last year."
*
Me: "We are VERY anxious to get some movement in Michael's case and Justice for him. We don't want Michael's case to into a Black Hole and people forget."
Det Smith: "No, No One is going to forget about a case of this magnitude. No one is going to forget Michael Jackson. Not someone of this magnitude."
Me: No, that goes without saying, No one will ever forget Michael Jackson. We just don't want them to forget about his case and Michael getting justice."
Det Smith: "I understand."
*
Me: "What is the next step because it's been a few months since a lot of Activity in Michael's investigation since last July/Agust.. but it has gone silent."
Det Smith: "The next step is after our investigation is complete, is to turn over the case to the District Attorneys' Office and they will do one of two things: 1). Bring Charges in his case OR 2). Drop the Case."
*
Me: "When do you expect to hand the case over to the District Attorneys office. Next month, next two months,by Michael's Birthday in August, by his 1st Year Memorial in June? When??
Det Smith: "Sometime this year. I can't give you a specific time."
Me: This year, we're only 5 days into the New Year 2010!! Can you give me something sooner than that?"
Det Smith: "I know, I know it's only the beginning of a New Year, but I can't give you a specific time the case with go the the DA Office."
*
Me: "We just want Justice for Michael."
Det Smith: "I understand and we are doing our best."
Me: "Are you the main detective on Michael's case? Are you the Only One working on this case?"
Det Smith. "Yes, I am the main Detective on this case, but I have a whole team helping me with Mr. Jackson Investigation".
Me: "OK - Detective Smith, We hope to see some activity in Michael's case very soon. You've been very helpful. Thank you for your time".
Det Smith - "You're welcome."
*
I hope that I remembered everything! He was very decent and cooperative. KEEP CALLING HIM EVERYONE!! I felt like he is EXPECTING more call from MJ FANS!! WE are Definitely RAISING OUR VOICES FOR OUR BELOVED MICHAEL!!

MJ FAMILY OF FANS WORLDWIDE MOBOLIZE!!

XOXOXOX - MJ,
IreneLovesMichael
A DEVOTED MJ FAN FOREVER, FOR ALL TIMES, Bloomfield, NJ
Keep in mind that there's been loads of reports that the case has been completed and Dr.Murray's going to arrested soon. That was months ago and nothing's happened. I wouldn't believe anything the tabloids say until I see it with my own eyes. When I see Dr. Murray being arrested on TV, and is charged with homicide/murder,etc, then I might believe it.     [/color]
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DooDoo on January 08, 2010, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Countenance, countenance my dears.

There's nothing to be afraid of.
This is wake-up time, in order to get the things revealed somebody must start talking, right?
How would you like to start it?
Michael coming on stage and saying: "oh geez, I am so sorry, but it was a hoax"?
There is so much still to come.
If you faint now, you will miss all the best - so get your cold water in immediate reach ;-)

If this court case will be of same character as those with the child support, I will have to keep myself from laughing and falling off the chair.

REMEMBER that Michael NEVER let us down.
He ALWAYS gave us ALL INDICATIONS to let us KEEP THE FAITH.

Do you really expect Mr. Murray going to court and jail?
A person that wrote a public letter to his "fans": "In my absence, I will continue to manage the practice, and be involved as much as possible but it will be from a distance."

An actor, whose voice and behaviour was being altered in the "Thank you" video to ressemble Michael and to thank his friends for their "continued support"?
This was first class technique.
"They mean the world to me!" Remember that sentence?
You continued supporters mean the world to Michael.

HEADS UP, ladies, there is nothing to fear and all to expect.
Relax, get your popcorn and enjoy the show.


Couldn't agree more. Keep the faith,the best has yet to come.  ;) We heard this news several times before, nothing new; plus TMZ says it's not so sure Murray will be prosecuted. ANd it says he can't be prosecuted or having somministered Propofol, which is a lie, cos he couldn't do that in California.So don't loose hope!!!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Secret Dove on January 08, 2010, 10:03:41 AM
I found a post about this on MJHD.net. I find this interesting...
Quote
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-death-investigation-lapd-manslaughter/

The latest article tells us the investigation is over.. and I quote:
"Our sources say detectives completed their investigation late last month"


But an older article
http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/23/dr-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-death-propofol-reality-show-documentary-tv-special-british/

I quote:
"One problem -- Dr. Murray is refusing to allow the company to air the project until the Michael Jackson investigation is complete. The spokesman tells us the wait could last "a couple of years.""

Ok,One article states the investigation is over and another(Dec 23rd) states that Dr Murray's expecting the investigation to take a "couple of years"?   :shock:  :o  :?  I'm not sure what to think, but it's a little weird that both articles were published within weeks of each other. Maybe it's just me... :? [/color]
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Shout on January 08, 2010, 10:37:51 AM
Quote from: "MashMike"
Ok as i said guys this is NOTHING,don't give up,we've reached to an interesting point at an interesting time :P .Even if Murray is jailed,it will not mean that Michael is dead!Michael is perfectionist,if he hoaxed his death(and i'm convinced in it),if he pulled off his memorial,"funeral",charges should take place,cause it will seem really unreal,cause more and more people think that smth fishy is goin' on with posponing the charges,even if Murray is charged(and i highly doubt it),it will be a show, a part of a hoax which was planned.We have discovered so many valuable things that lead us to the conclusion that he's ALIVE,ALIVE,ALIVE!!!!!BRING ME AT LEAST 10 FACTS THAT HE'S GONE(BESIDES MEDIA'S TRASH AND CONTRADICTING INFO).WHY WOULD M.J.'S DEATH-INVESTIGATION END EXACTLY AT ELVIS'S BIRTHDAY??!!!!THERE CANNOT BE SO MANY COINCIDENCES!IT'S UNREAL PEOPLE!.I PERSONALLY WILL NEVER GIVE UP,JUST NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ACSEPT AND IT'D TOO PAINFUL, BUT ALSO CAUSE I HAVE CAME TO MY PERSONAL CONCLUSION AFTER THOSE 7 MONTHS CONSIDERONG ALL THE CLUES THAT HE IS ALIVE AS IS ELVIS.

They did not ended at Elvis birthday but late last month, and if I have understood it right it is still not over. TMZ has just released this "news" today
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 08, 2010, 10:50:09 AM
OMG :cry:   What does this mean :cry:   Please God, I'm still trying to dance the dream.  I don't want to wake up and find it was really a nightmare. :cry:   I am still keeping the faith until the very end.  Michael, I love you more :cry:

PS - If this turns out to be true, heaven forbid, I say we take the prosecution, sentencing and punishment of Conrad Murray into our own hands.  All in favor say"aye". :evil:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: foreverking on January 08, 2010, 10:55:41 AM
My guest is that he will be charged with some type of involuntary manslaughter but plead it down to a misdemeanor, which means he won't do any jail time. He has no previous record (other than child support) and he will be able to produce many many letters from patients who atest to his character,so it'll be a slap on the hand. If you read the article, it does say he did not break any laws by administering the drugs to MJ.  Think about it, if the courts went after every doctor who gave a patient a drug and that patient later died, then the courts would be full of doctors.
MJ is alive and he's no fool. He knew the good doctor would have to face the charges. I say if he's charged, we need to look at who he gets as criminal lawyer, here in Los Angeles, the good ones don't come cheap. If it's a high power lawyer, then BINGO! cause Murray does not have the funds to pay this type of an attorney, but of course MJ does.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 10:57:09 AM
I knew Januuary 2010 would be a busy news month.  Im actually relieved on one level, as i desperately need to know what happened to MJ on June 25th.

Ive waivered between a death hoax or a murder cover up.  I havent been able to rest for 6 months now because my gut instinct is telling me that something isnt right.

I know that if MJ has died, then we all owe it to him to uncover the truth about what happened to him and who was involved.  Knowing the truth will give him justice and will give us closure.

I know that, if he has died, i havent been able to grieve because i have had too many unanswered questions.

I have a strong feeling about Jan 25th 2010..  7 months after June 25th.  

I really do think we are going to get some answers this month.  And even if they are not the answers we may want, it will be a great help to us all.

Peace...   lets just see what happens and what is revealed.  xx
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: becca26 on January 08, 2010, 11:02:49 AM
Hey guys and girls, also something to think about as well This is it is out on dvd around the end of the month so they have to keep MJ in the news ect to boost sales since most have prob moved on and don't think about MJ the way we do, but seeing Murray and court stuff may make some want to go out and buy the dvd to see for them selves if he looked ill ect.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on January 08, 2010, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: "foreverking"
My guest is that he will be charged with some type of involuntary manslaughter but plead it down to a misdemeanor, which means he won't do any jail time. He has no previous record (other than child support) and he will be able to produce many many letters from patients who atest to his character,so it'll be a slap on the hand. If you read the article, it does say he did not break any laws by administering the drugs to MJ.  Think about it, if the courts went after every doctor who gave a patient a drug and that patient later died, then the courts would be full of doctors.
MJ is alive and he's no fool. He knew the good doctor would have to face the charges. I say if he's charged, we need to look at who he gets as criminal lawyer, here in Los Angeles, the good ones don't come cheap. If it's a high power lawyer, then BINGO! cause Murray does not have the funds to pay this type of an attorney, but of course MJ does.

I believe he has a previous record of domestic violence also.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 08, 2010, 11:11:43 AM
The administering of the drug is not the problem nor the question.  It's what he did or did not do after he gave him the drug that's suspect.  If that ain't criminal, then what the hell is?  A child could've handled themselves better.  His behavior reeks of him being the one that was high on drugs, not Michael.  Probably smoking some drough and lost track of what he was supposed to be doing, which is monitoring his patient :evil: I can't even discuss this it pisses me off. Trying  to have a calm day today.  From the onset though, looks as if that just won't be in my cards unfortunately.  I feel the heat rising.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 08, 2010, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I knew Januuary 2010 would be a busy news month.  Im actually relieved on one level, as i desperately need to know what happened to MJ on June 25th.

Ive waivered between a death hoax or a murder cover up.  I havent been able to rest for 6 months now because my gut instinct is telling me that something isnt right.

I know that if MJ has died, then we all owe it to him to uncover the truth about what happened to him and who was involved.  Knowing the truth will give him justice and will give us closure.

I know that, if he has died, i havent been able to grieve because i have had too many unanswered questions.

I have a strong feeling about Jan 25th 2010..  7 months after June 25th.  

I really do think we are going to get some answers this month.  And even if they are not the answers we may want, it will be a great help to us all.

Peace...   lets just see what happens and what is revealed.  xx

I agree, all the 7's and then 7 months later...
Even if they say Murray is in jail. Who says its not all staged?

and January 25th is my birthday so I hope he returns then  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: tinker_bell on January 08, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
Quote
finding a date when everyone can show is a little tricky ...

well sure it is, so many people: Kenny, Travis, Randy Phillips, the dancers, the Jacksons, Liz, Mac, Craig Harvey, Chief Bratton, UCLA staff, FL staff, FBI, LAPD, LAX staff, half of Hollywood and Manly - the whole crowd!

(http://i47.tinypic.com/sv1lhf.gif)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Hotgirl1 on January 08, 2010, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
I Feel like i just now lost him...Now my denial is over and it took 7 months to figure it out, Michael I hope you forgive me for all we put you and your family through, I really do because I don't know if i can forgive myself...I promise to you and to myself that i won't be so disrespectful to your family and the ones who deeply care for you. I am Deeply torn by all of this now...I shall go into mourning process now...Peace to You and Your Family Michael. God Bless You!!!   :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry: RIP Michael Jackson  :cry:  :cry:
:lol:  I'm sorry but are you for real?......I mean, why douse it appear that every time we get closer to what's going on or what's about to happen we see news like this and on top of it all certain posters who come out of the wood works with the o'l " I knew it....he's gone...booohoo" bs, now i_need YoU I'm not saying you are one of those posters...but....I find it a bit funny how it all seems to happen this way...Now everybody  has to ask themselves why every time we hear an update on this case it's coming from a tabloid rag and not the actual source? Look at all the "real" death cases out in the news like 911 and the Anna Nicole case or better yet the kid who is being held here in Detroit MI. for attempting to use a air craft as a weapon of mass destruction....look how with this case the information is coming strait from the US Department of Justice or in the A.N.S It was the Seminole police department or even with 911 the US Government....even though I have my suspicions with them but that's another show!......but my point is look at the way in which these stores were covered/ announced and look at how this Bull Sh_it is reported and most importantly by "WHO".  When I see post like the one above it just sends of bells to me that we obviously have some folks on here who are placed specifically to 1. to get us to doubt all of the hard work and evidence we have put into this or 2. through us off the sent and have us looking in another direction.  People, this is just one of many diversionary tactics to through us off the trail.....use your head, don't fall for it and don't lose hope,
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Grace on January 08, 2010, 11:33:49 AM
I just imagined we would all join the public hearing - imagine: they would have to hold it at Staples...

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 11:42:34 AM
If Murray does get convicted of these crimes in the USA what is the likely sentence for involuntary manslaughter and gross misconduct?

How many years in prison?  Life?  Could he get the death penalty?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 08, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
Jesus Christ!! Why are you crying?!  :?
Just because Death Investigation is complete, doesn't mean someone is being punished!
It says Murray will not be charged! Because giving propofol is not against the laws.

Murray will not be charged!

I Just got really happy after reading 1. News on TMZ.
-"Dr. Murray did not break any laws in administering Propofol to Jackson."

As I have said and thought.. Murray will not be charged, and not found guilty of Michael's death.. Even he was said to give alot of propofol, and that was the reason why Michael died.

If it was a normal guy that was killed of drugs, gave by a doctor at the hospital.. IT would be drama, and the police would put the man in jail for at least one week.. Then he would be punished/not punished soon after jail

7 Months since Michael's death.. When is the Memorial and This Is It award thing, 25th January?..
 7!! Months after Michael's "sudden-death.." I don't think it is 25th January, but please check it out.


If Michael really is dead.. OMG.. I'm glad I don't live in USA.. The place seems to be the worst place ever.
And the world is disgusting.. Not worth to live.  :cry:  :evil:

We have to focus on our clues, and facts we got.. Proves we have..
I'm aint wasting my time to see you fall down of an article wrote of TMZ!! We have too much proves, and if Murray suddently is being jailed, I'm sure Michael will come out.. Tell everything..

Michael makes a real thriller for us..

Michael is "bigger" than 9/11.. His death is bigger news that anything else in the world!
-Everyone knew Michael.. Even though 9/11 was more "horrible." My point is if Michael was dead, everyone working with this case would be so fast to complete this, that we wouldn't react that he even was dead..

Wasting time about childsupport on Murray, instead of invigest the death.. Hmmm?
.. Michael is about to return.. Realize it.
-Michael wouldn't hurt Murray, so Michael will come back.. Or he is for sure dead.

Keep the faith! We are not giving this up!! Stay calm, keep focusing. There is so much strange going on!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 08, 2010, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
Hey guys and girls, also something to think about as well This is it is out on dvd around the end of the month so they have to keep MJ in the news ect to boost sales since most have prob moved on and don't think about MJ the way we do, but seeing Murray and court stuff may make some want to go out and buy the dvd to see for them selves if he looked ill ect.

The DVD's would sell so DAMN, if Michael was back by then.. Standing there at the release.. :lol:

Man that was alive, then died, then came back.. Everyone on the planet would know who Michael was then.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 08, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
Quote from: "bec"
"Within weeks". Bah. And how many times have we heard this before?


Exactly!  My sentiments exactly, Bec!  We have heard this over and over like a broken record. And, if Murray will be charged criminally in any fashion it would have made logical sense to SUSPEND his license in the interim. There is no way on God's green earth that if all of this was real that the justice system or medical board would allow him to even treat another patient until the investigation was complete and the file was officially closed!

This all indicates to me that it has to be a hoax. Michael, is directing this and it appears that a frenzy is mounting once again prior to the release of "This Is It". We must remember that Michael craves mystery and magic and really knows how to wow the masses. He is a genius when it comes to marketing and this ploy is all in line with his business tactics. It is clever and I don't blame him. I truly think he has something up his sleeve and I can't wait for it all to unfold. I just am not accustomed to waiting this long for anything, gosh darn it all! However, he said it was a journey and a journey is generally lengthy in nature and I cannot suspect that the intention for his disappearance has been played out yet. It all takes time and I do believe more is happening behind the scenes than we can ever conceive of. All I can say is God bless you Michael, I love you, we all love you. We wish good health, happiness, peace and safety be with you and your family always!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 08, 2010, 12:31:41 PM
People you really need to wake up, and stop crying and react after just article as if Michael really isn't here anymore because we all know HE'S STILL ALIVE, Why are we here together for more then six months and you all want to give up just like that and throw your hands up after just an article... It's weird that they said last month that the investigation could take years for it to complete and then this month they say it is completed, that must ring a bell to everyone right? Because they are lying in front of our noses. So stop the crying because we all know Michael is still here!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 12:32:49 PM
Sentencing for Involuntary Manslaughter in California is low.  See link:  http://www.ehow.com/way_5185339_involun ... lines.html (http://www.ehow.com/way_5185339_involuntary-manslaughter-sentencing-guidelines.html)

Also.. WHY ARE THE POLICE GIVING MURRAY A HEADS UP AGAIN?????????

Which police force does this????  Are they trying to give him as much warning as possible so he can do a runner???  I really think Dr Murray is going to skip the country.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on January 08, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
My mind is all over the place right now.  Half of me wants to believe he's still alive but the other half of me is saying that he's dead. I told myself that if Dr Murray went to jail he was gone and now that's going to happen.
All these months we've been saying things about Michael's family when all they were doing was telling the truth. I feel horrible now. :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: larab on January 08, 2010, 12:47:23 PM
even if Michael is dead, I think Murray is not going to jail..it is a very weak case they have against him, especially because Propofol is not a controlled substance.
anesthesia intoxication happens quite often and the doctor never gets prosecuted.
he certainly was negligent, but I don't think that's enough to do any jail time. :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: KeepTheFaith on January 08, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
Only TMZ reported this, and it is strange , on TMZ there are MJ news almost every day, sometimes 2 in a day. The site which reported his "death" first, before Jermaine announced that.

So they care so much about MJ. Are they trying to make believe us that he "dead"?
idk what is going on...
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 12:49:25 PM
Ask any policeman...   they never give warnings of arrest to a suspect.  Its ridiculous.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Secret Dove on January 08, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Sentencing for Involuntary Manslaughter in California is low.  See link:  http://www.ehow.com/way_5185339_involun ... lines.html (http://www.ehow.com/way_5185339_involuntary-manslaughter-sentencing-guidelines.html)

Also.. WHY ARE THE POLICE GIVING MURRAY A HEADS UP AGAIN?????????

Which police force does this????  Are they trying to give him as much warning as possible so he can do a runner???  I really think Dr Murray is going to skip the country.
You took the words right out of my mouth!!!! They always give Murray a head up! It's like their saying" Murray, we're going to arrest you any day now, now's your chance to catch a plane out of the country so we can't arrest you and you won't stand trial or go to jail!!! have fun!". :lol: Not a smart thing to do guys, not at all. :roll:

I would think if they were to arrest Murray it'll be without any notice so it'll be a surprise and he wouldn't have time to skip the country... :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Secret Dove on January 08, 2010, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
My mind is all over the place right now.  Half of me wants to believe he's still alive but the other half of me is saying that he's dead. I told myself that if Dr Murray went to jail he was gone and now that's going to happen.
All these months we've been saying things about Michael's family when all they were doing was telling the truth. I feel horrible now. :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
I'm sorry but these type of posts are getting on my nerves!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :!:   I can't believe people allow a stupid article upset them so much!  :?  You allow TMZ to have power over you too. If their watching this forum, they know that putting an article out about an arrest will upset people! Yes, MJ could be dead, but that article doesn't prove anything. Their giving Murray a heads up for goodness sakes! Police NEVER do that, EVER!That's ridiculous!!

We're NOT calling the Jackson's liars. We're questioning their actions and we want to truth. There's nothing wrong with that. Let's think positive and stop the "I feel so horrible, he's dead, etc" posts. This is a HOAX forum, if you believe that MJs dead, there's plenty of forums you can go to to talk about how horrible you feel, etc. We're here to find the truth and we will. Keep the faith!

Sorry if that sounds harsh. I'm tired of reading depressing posts. I'm not here for that, I'm here for Michael and to investigate what happened to him.  :oops:  :|
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: rowdyangel on January 08, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
I admit that when I first heard about this I had a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach  :( .  However, I have had time to think more about this today and digest it all and do you know what??

I AM MORE CERTAIN THAN EVER THAT OUR MICHAEL IS STILL WITH US!!!  :D

Since 25th June I have had 100% faith that all of this is a hoax - earlier today I would say it wavered to about 70% alive, 30% dead but now, I am 100% certain again.

I can understand those of you who feel that this is 'game over', but it's not - I said only last week that something was starting to bubble under the surface and that things would start to happen again.  Well, THIS IS IT, this is the start of the journey down the road to revelation that I predicted.

Hop on board people and join me - it will be "a great adventure" and we will go "to places we have never been before."  8-)  8-)

I love you so very very much Michael.

XXXXXXX
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 08, 2010, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: "rowdyangel"
I admit that when I first heard about this I had a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach  :( .  However, I have had time to think more about this today and digest it all and do you know what??

I AM MORE CERTAIN THAN EVER THAT OUR MICHAEL IS STILL WITH US!!!  :D

Since 25th June I have had 100% faith that all of this is a hoax - earlier today I would say it wavered to about 70% alive, 30% dead but now, I am 100% certain again.

I can understand those of you who feel that this is 'game over', but it's not - I said only last week that something was starting to bubble under the surface and that things would start to happen again.  Well, THIS IS IT, this is the start of the journey down the road to revelation that I predicted.

Hop on board people and join me - it will be "a great adventure" and we will go "to places we have never been before."  8-)  8-)


I love you so very very much Michael.

XXXXXXX

*Join*

Maybe he is following the songs in This Is It..

He wanted to start something.. You know.. Follow his tracks.. What is his last song? Could be something with this.. :lol:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: naomifury on January 08, 2010, 01:24:24 PM
This is mjalive999's new video talking specifically about this news.  For anyone who may have slightly lost the faith after reading about the completed death investigation article I'd watch this (:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO6Kc2jbH1w&feature=sub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO6Kc2jbH1w&feature=sub)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 01:32:10 PM
Keep in mind that no official statement has been released by the LAPD.. only a "source" has leaked the info to TMZ
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 08, 2010, 01:43:47 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Keep in mind that no official statement has been released by the LAPD.. only a "source" has leaked the info to TMZ

That's right.. And TMZ doesn't really have sources either.. They are always first when it comes to MJ.. :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DooDoo on January 08, 2010, 01:47:50 PM
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
My mind is all over the place right now.  Half of me wants to believe he's still alive but the other half of me is saying that he's dead. I told myself that if Dr Murray went to jail he was gone and now that's going to happen.
All these months we've been saying things about Michael's family when all they were doing was telling the truth. I feel horrible now. :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
I'm sorry but these type of posts are getting on my nerves!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :!:   I can't believe people allow a stupid article upset them so much!  :?  You allow TMZ to have power over you too. If their watching this forum, they know that putting an article out about an arrest will upset people! Yes, MJ could be dead, but that article doesn't prove anything. Their giving Murray a heads up for goodness sakes! Police NEVER do that, EVER!That's ridiculous!!

We're NOT calling the Jackson's liars. We're questioning their actions and we want to truth. There's nothing wrong with that. Let's think positive and stop the "I feel so horrible, he's dead, etc" posts. This is a HOAX forum, if you believe that MJs dead, there's plenty of forums you can go to to talk about how horrible you feel, etc. We're here to find the truth and we will. Keep the faith!

Sorry if that sounds harsh. I'm tired of reading depressing posts. I'm not here for that, I'm here for Michael and to investigate what happened to him.  :oops:  :|
 Right you are. Right you are. Please guys, try to analize what TMZ said. There's nothing to worry about. NOTHING.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: LLJ on January 08, 2010, 01:50:43 PM
I've also read about it on contactmusic.com - but who knows who their sources are?

I haven't heard any news about it on the radio, which I listen to the whole day basically, but yesterday, they played an interview with Janet, talking about her love life!

I STILL BELIEVE
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MJsAngelEyes1987 on January 08, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
BOY! I felt like I was about to give up when I read the article, but then, I guess something is telling me that it's still a hoax for that matter. I'm still trying to "KEEP THE FAITH" as much as I possibly can. However, I'm sure if my mom were to find out about the case, then she'd be like "You need to realize MJ's gone, so move on."

But, as I said, no matter what, nothing is gonna change my mind at this point. I'm still doing my best to try & "KEEP THE FAITH!"
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: "LLJ"
I've also read about it on contactmusic.com - but who knows who their sources are?

I haven't heard any news about it on the radio, which I listen to the whole day basically, but yesterday, they played an interview with Janet, talking about her love life!

I STILL BELIEVE

It came from TMZ first and then all the other websites and news outlets pick it up.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: angelshadow on January 08, 2010, 01:58:39 PM
I'm here
I still do not lose my faith :!:
It is not over yet ;)

All for Love ;)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 02:09:47 PM
Check this out.  Sky news UK have a video of Murray with their news report.

link:  http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... LA_Sources (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Doctor-Conrad-Murray-To-Be-Charged-With-Involuntary-Manslaughter---LA-Sources/Article/201001215517392?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15517392_Michael_Jackson_Death%3A_Doctor_Conrad_Murray_To_Be_Charged_With_Involuntary_Manslaughter_-_LA_Sources)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lisap27 on January 08, 2010, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Check this out.  Sky news UK have a video of Murray with their news report.

link:  http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... LA_Sources (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Michael-Jackson-Death-Doctor-Conrad-Murray-To-Be-Charged-With-Involuntary-Manslaughter---LA-Sources/Article/201001215517392?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15517392_Michael_Jackson_Death%3A_Doctor_Conrad_Murray_To_Be_Charged_With_Involuntary_Manslaughter_-_LA_Sources)


great minds i was just gonna post its on SKY NEWS!!  :cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 08, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
Watch the news guys.  Breaking story.  Murray indicted :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 08, 2010, 02:18:59 PM
TMZ is first.. Everyone follows.. They don't even know if this is fake or not.
-They just write for money.

Michael for media is money..

Just because it's on the news, doesn't mean it's true.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lisap27 on January 08, 2010, 02:19:27 PM
then i just read they got their info off TMZ..  :roll:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: angelshadow on January 08, 2010, 02:20:42 PM
Just do not be blinded by media
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: tinker_bell on January 08, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
There's nothing on LAPD official site&blog either, there was nothing on CNN for all day, TMZ is the only source... in any case, i think we were all expecting this to come, didn't we? I really don't understand some depressive reactions out of the blue. It looks like there's some ice shifting finally and that's what we were praying for: hoax or justice! There can be nothing worse than June 25, whatever happens will bring us some closure. I'm more scared of nothing happening at all.

Right now we must stand united as never before, if this is the case of things wraping up!

Hugs to you, guys!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lisap27 on January 08, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
i understand where your coming from.. but its still  :cry: happy for justice but sad for reality if its true and its all come to an end..
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: angelshadow on January 08, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
@lisap27
No matter what happens, we bring it together to end!
No one is alone, we keep each other straight and strong
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: rowdyangel on January 08, 2010, 02:29:04 PM
Don't worry guys.  Sky News in the UK have often 'followed' with stories that break on TMZ.  It's happened before.  Calm down everyone.  All will be fine.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: lisap27 on January 08, 2010, 02:35:26 PM
your right guys thanks.. don't know why i'm freaked out.. :shock:  i usually take it on the chin and wait..  :?

patience is a virtue!! i'll keep telling myself that!!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Another_Part_of_Me on January 08, 2010, 02:42:03 PM
This one is from Perez Hilton's Blog
Quote
Bad news for Dr. Conrad Murray.

Looks like prosecutors are finally ready to seek an indictment again Michael Jackson's doctor on a charge of involuntary manslaughter!

An anonymous police source revealed Dr. Murray would be "prosecuted on a theory of gross negligence."

However, LAPD must follow procedures and present the case to the district attorney before an indictment can be sought.

As for Dr. Murray, a spokesperson for the doc and his attorney claims Murray has no comment and that he never administered or prescribed anything that should have killed Jackson.

But things aren't looking good for Dr. Murray.

Several witnesses have been interviewed, many of which were with Jackson during his last few days. Not to mention that authorities have medical expert witnesses lined up to testify about standard care.

Now all that's left is to wait until the district attorney's office conducts an internal review and determining when the grand jury will be available to hear the case.

Wonder what the jury will decide.


Here is the link --> http://perezhilton.com/2010-01-08-manslaughter (http://perezhilton.com/2010-01-08-manslaughter)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: itsall4love on January 08, 2010, 02:42:21 PM
I was watching TV today (a Romanian news station) and they showed this like every hour at the news report...  They always mentioned that the source was TMZ.com, but they were saying it like they got it from some idk what official source. I guess this just comes to show how unprofessional the media can be, at least in here.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 03:47:18 PM
OK you guys i admit when i read this i thought it was game over but after i slept on it i had a very strange dream...like the whole hoax thing was laid into my head Michael was in my dream explaining everything!!!...I felt like i actually met him i feel rejuvenated and ready to pursue this!!! I love this dream and hopefully i never forget it but it was AWESOME who knew such a dream can give me so much faith!!! everything is so clear...
THANK YOU GUYS REALLY...im pumped now :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  i wish i didnt wake up though haha he was so beautiful and his voice sounded so real heehee ok man i cant wait for this month to kick into full gear
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 08, 2010, 07:11:59 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "rowdyangel"
I admit that when I first heard about this I had a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach  :( .  However, I have had time to think more about this today and digest it all and do you know what??

I AM MORE CERTAIN THAN EVER THAT OUR MICHAEL IS STILL WITH US!!!  :D

Since 25th June I have had 100% faith that all of this is a hoax - earlier today I would say it wavered to about 70% alive, 30% dead but now, I am 100% certain again.

I can understand those of you who feel that this is 'game over', but it's not - I said only last week that something was starting to bubble under the surface and that things would start to happen again.  Well, THIS IS IT, this is the start of the journey down the road to revelation that I predicted.

Hop on board people and join me - it will be "a great adventure" and we will go "to places we have never been before."  8-)  8-)


I love you so very very much Michael.

XXXXXXX

*Join*

Maybe he is following the songs in This Is It..

He wanted to start something.. You know.. Follow his tracks.. What is his last song? Could be something with this.. :lol:

1. Wanna Be Startin Something/Speechless
2. Jam
3. Drill/They Don't Care About Us
4.Human Nature
5. Smooth Criminal
6. The Way You Make Me Feel
7. Jackson 5 Medley (I Want You Back, The Love You Save, and I'll Be There)
8. Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)
9. I Just Can't Stop Loving You
10. Thriller
11. Beat It
12. Black or White
13. Earth Song
14. Billie Jean
15. Man in the Mirror
Credits: This Is It, Human Nature
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Chance on January 08, 2010, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: "bec"
"Within weeks". Bah. And how many times have we heard this before?


hahaha you just reminded me .. remember back...way back when they said Murray would be arrested in two weeks?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Chance on January 08, 2010, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: "farhatmjj"
Yes we ARE horrible! :( And it hurts much much more than it did way back in june. People are slowly moving on by now and we just lost him all over again. Just think how Michael would have been feeling this 6 months, we questioned his kid's tears, his mother's, brother's and the whole family's grief. We didn't pray for his soul to get peace. We took everything as a joke, we laughed at their words. Mostly, WE WISHED HIS MURDERER TO BE FREE. we just hurt Michael all this months. Our lives are going to be hell by people laughin at us and telling us how FOOLISH we were acting all these days. Oh god have some mercy.

Even if we are wrong.. Michael is the one that taught us to not believe everything we read.. I think he would be proud that we are thinking for ourselves and not letting the media spoon feed us anymore .. even if we are wrong!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 08:12:31 PM
Has anyone else noticed how all the other news outlets have picked up on this and most of them are reporting INACCURATELY???

The truth is... TMZ are quoting from an "un-named police source" that the LAPD have finished their investigation and are due to hand it over to the DA.
This is why the DA are saying they are not considering charges as they DO NOT have the case file to consider.

So.. its all speculation at the moment.

No official statement has been released from the LAPD on this.

Many news outlets who have picked up on TMZ story are now falsely reporting "charges have been filed"

Its ridiculous, it really is.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 08:44:31 PM
Also.. interestingly i have just done a search and the only tabloid in the UK that is carrying this story is "The Sun".
now..  that is very unusual as well.  Could it be because TMZ sources are a bit shaky and not all the papers want to run with this news?

At the moment my feeling is this is BS from TMZ and too many other news outlets have picked it up and ran with it.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: MyMindseye on January 08, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
It's all but certain Dr. Conrad Murray will be criminally charged in MJ's death.  There is a "but" there...and again I'd like to know who these sources are.  They have proof but the case will be presented within weeks.  How many weeks TMZ? same amount of weeks it took them to investigate?  they'll come up with something soon...


Cant charge a man that doesnt exist the finale is coming soon and it will BLOW YOUR MIND as said on the Jack5ons twitter I think MJ will be the finale..what do you think?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: farhatmjj on January 08, 2010, 11:31:21 PM
I'm sorry i sound really depressive sometimes and i DO admit i almost lose the faith often but the truth is something always comes up that helps me regain it. But for last few weeks or a month IDK why i didn't find anything that would help me keep the faith rather there were photos of the tomb, the coronar's statement, murray going to be charged and all... I'm still keeping the faith by the way. At this moment i'm feeling like we ACTUALLY are going to see the end of it. It may be that he's really gone and finally we get justice for him or it may be what we all want it to be, the reveal of the hoax and that Michael is alive and well... Or may i state still a man!! (talkin about those disgusting blonde lady theories)  :evil:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on January 08, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: "farhatmjj"
I'm sorry i sound really depressive sometimes and i DO admit i almost lose the faith often but the truth is something always comes up that helps me regain it. But for last few weeks or a month IDK why i didn't find anything that would help me keep the faith rather there were photos of the tomb, the coronar's statement, murray going to be charged and all... I'm still keeping the faith by the way. At this moment i'm feeling like we ACTUALLY are going to see the end of it. It may be that he's really gone and finally we get justice for him or it may be what we all want it to be, the reveal of the hoax and that Michael is alive and well... Or may i state still a man!! (talkin about those disgusting blonde lady theories)  :evil:
the blonde lady theories are the ideas that he was disguised as a woman. not necessarily in a disgusting manner.

& it is alright. we are all here for each other for support.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: farhatmjj on January 08, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Oh and i wish so desperately that it doesn't happen in the reality show lol, there's something that doesn't make me feel it would be a good platform for the big reveal. I don't have that channel. We all don't have it here, i mean in the southern Asia including my country Bangladesh, India, Pakistan the whole eastern India won't be able to witness the BAM. Michael said east indian people are his people lol, we shouldn't be out of it. IMHO it should be on some worldwide source like CNN. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: farhatmjj on January 08, 2010, 11:40:46 PM
Thank you  :) yeah i know the theory about the lady being him in disguise but you know i was talking about the other theory.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on January 08, 2010, 11:43:09 PM
Quote from: "farhatmjj"
Thank you  :) yeah i know the theory about the lady being him in disguise but you know i was talking about the other theory.
oh, that  :roll: not worth mentioning again.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: cawobeth on January 09, 2010, 12:06:26 AM
more contradictions...whatever - - -
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 09, 2010, 12:46:15 AM
Quote from: "thecheetoman2004"
Credits: This Is It, Human Nature

it was actually This Is It, Heal the World, then Human Nature

(Just to let you know)  ;)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on January 09, 2010, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
My mind is all over the place right now.  Half of me wants to believe he's still alive but the other half of me is saying that he's dead. I told myself that if Dr Murray went to jail he was gone and now that's going to happen.
All these months we've been saying things about Michael's family when all they were doing was telling the truth. I feel horrible now. :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
I'm sorry but these type of posts are getting on my nerves!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :!:   I can't believe people allow a stupid article upset them so much!  :?  You allow TMZ to have power over you too. If their watching this forum, they know that putting an article out about an arrest will upset people! Yes, MJ could be dead, but that article doesn't prove anything. Their giving Murray a heads up for goodness sakes! Police NEVER do that, EVER!That's ridiculous!!

We're NOT calling the Jackson's liars. We're questioning their actions and we want to truth. There's nothing wrong with that. Let's think positive and stop the "I feel so horrible, he's dead, etc" posts. This is a HOAX forum, if you believe that MJs dead, there's plenty of forums you can go to to talk about how horrible you feel, etc. We're here to find the truth and we will. Keep the faith!

Sorry if that sounds harsh. I'm tired of reading depressing posts. I'm not here for that, I'm here for Michael and to investigate what happened to him.  :oops:  :|


Sorry I got on your nerves, but it wasjust a wee bit of a shock for me I'll keep my mouth closed from now on.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DooDoo on January 09, 2010, 10:49:55 AM
You guys, please try to calm down. We're all sketchy but there's no need to argue , we have to stay calm and focused. Everyone is entitled to have doubts and to get depressed and to express his feelings. We're here to support each other, right?
It's all for L.O.V.E. ;)
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Grenat on January 09, 2010, 11:26:19 AM
It's sound scary , what are gonna too if Murray is really charged ?  :(
Oh my god I hope he's not going to be charged and they're going to delay it again
If not we're in deep s*****
Of course if Mike is really dead that's good news but I don't wanna him dead so it's definitly bad news for us  :(

But no it can't happen , how are they going to explain all this weirdness
It cannot be just the end like that
We have see so much strange thing that a simple murder isn't possible
There has to be something else
He won't be charged , He won't go to jail , it's all lie again
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 09, 2010, 11:39:02 AM
Please stop panicking,  No charges have been filed.  Its all speculation.  Also..  we wont know until at least Monday now because of the weekend.
I actually think TMZ have acted unprofessionally here.  
None of the UK tabloids have picked up on this so thats hilarious.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Grenat on January 09, 2010, 11:46:01 AM
Quote
Please stop panicking, No charges have been filed. Its all speculation. Also.. we wont know until at least Monday now because of the weekend.
I actually think TMZ have acted unprofessionally here.
None of the UK tabloids have picked up on this so thats hilarious.

What ? How come nobody picked this up ?
Hmmmm...Maybe all is speculation as you say , maybe TMZ heard it from an officer which was too chatty and like to boast ?
That's right,we cannot trust what media say without seeing it with our very eyes
You're right I have to keep calm about this
Anyways , Murray found a nice lawyer and it's said that he didn't break any law
He probably won't be charged and it stink hoax again
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: LLJ on January 09, 2010, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: "DooDoo"
You guys, please try to calm down. We're all sketchy but there's no need to argue , we have to stay calm and focused. Everyone is entitled to have doubts and to get depressed and to express his feelings. We're here to support each other, right?
It's all for L.O.V.E. ;)

I agree with you
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: LLJ on January 09, 2010, 12:41:54 PM
Quote from: "DooDoo"
You guys, please try to calm down. We're all sketchy but there's no need to argue , we have to stay calm and focused. Everyone is entitled to have doubts and to get depressed and to express his feelings. We're here to support each other, right?
It's all for L.O.V.E. ;)

I agree with you
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: LLJ on January 09, 2010, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: "DooDoo"
You guys, please try to calm down. We're all sketchy but there's no need to argue , we have to stay calm and focused. Everyone is entitled to have doubts and to get depressed and to express his feelings. We're here to support each other, right?
It's all for L.O.V.E. ;)

I agree with you
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Datroot on January 09, 2010, 12:46:11 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Please stop panicking,  No charges have been filed.  Its all speculation.  Also..  we wont know until at least Monday now because of the weekend.
I actually think TMZ have acted unprofessionally here.  
None of the UK tabloids have picked up on this so thats hilarious.

It was on Sky TV yesterday.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 10, 2010, 12:00:39 AM
you know i was watching showbiz tonight last night because i was surely thinking they were gonna mention this particular investigation thing and how it was complete...but there was no news on it...i found it strange how no news station has really taken it...you would think though that lately TMZ has been first with Michael Jackson news that other news stations would be keeping an eye on them as well...but no one is taking this one??...but then if they knw that that particular information is false, why dont they make a statement saying that TMZ is giving out false information??

sorry for my rambling on eer just thinking out loud :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: farhatmjj on January 10, 2010, 12:45:53 AM
Has anyone see the news on CNN? I watched CNN but there was nothing.

What about Murray's name not being Conrad Murray actually? There are talks that his real identity is found and his real name is something Carter? I posted a thread about it wanting to know if all of us think this information is legit, but my post was deleted. I didn't even find any other post about the same topic.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 10, 2010, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Please stop panicking,  No charges have been filed.  Its all speculation.  Also..  we wont know until at least Monday now because of the weekend.
I actually think TMZ have acted unprofessionally here.  
None of the UK tabloids have picked up on this so thats hilarious.

It was on Sky TV yesterday.

Sky news isnt a tabloid.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on January 10, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: "farhatmjj"
Has anyone see the news on CNN? I watched CNN but there was nothing.

What about Murray's name not being Conrad Murray actually? There are talks that his real identity is found and his real name is something Carter? I posted a thread about it wanting to know if all of us think this information is legit, but my post was deleted. I didn't even find any other post about the same topic.

the completion of the investigation was on CNN in spanish 2 days ago.
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: Lady J on January 11, 2010, 09:44:57 AM
Nothing adds up and especially the amended Death Certificate which is scaring the hell out of me as well as the email reply of the forest lawn worker.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 11, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
you know i was watching showbiz tonight last night because i was surely thinking they were gonna mention this particular investigation thing and how it was complete...but there was no news on it...i found it strange how no news station has really taken it...you would think though that lately TMZ has been first with Michael Jackson news that other news stations would be keeping an eye on them as well...but no one is taking this one??...but then if they knw that that particular information is false, why dont they make a statement saying that TMZ is giving out false information??

sorry for my rambling on eer just thinking out loud :?

You are right! I have heard nothing of this news on major news outlets on the television or radio. I have only read this hype on the Internet.  Most likely all part of the hoax!!!!
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 11, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: "Lady J"
Nothing adds up and especially the amended Death Certificate which is scaring the hell out of me as well as the email reply of the forest lawn worker.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
what email reply from the forrest lawn worker..?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: virgo75 on January 11, 2010, 03:01:14 PM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
Quote from: "Lady J"
Nothing adds up and especially the amended Death Certificate which is scaring the hell out of me as well as the email reply of the forest lawn worker.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
what email reply from the forrest lawn worker..?!?!?!?

Yeah, what email?

I saw a "view topic" on another post but the link didn't work?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: i_need YoU on January 11, 2010, 03:02:49 PM
yeah the link wont work... :?  :?
Title: Re: Death Investigation Complete
Post by: cawobeth on March 22, 2010, 09:26:32 PM
complete ?
they're milkin' it  :roll:[attachment=0:19nrhj8f]Copy of Genius- by Jasmin-Jinx -photobucket- 23kyow1.jpg[/attachment:19nrhj8f]
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