Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
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Dr. Conrad Murray's new lawyer claims he's the best of the best when it comes to cases involving Propofol and death -- and dude has the track record to prove it.
TMZ spoke to J. Michael Flanagan who told us, "I'm probably the only attorney in town that has successfully tried a Propofol case involving death."
Back in 2004, Flanagan defended a nurse who was accused of wrongly administering the stuff to a patient who later died. The nurse was charged with involuntary manslaughter -- the same crime we're told the D.A. is likely to charge Murray with. But with Flanagan by her side, the nurse was acquitted.
As for Murray's role in the Michael Jackson case, Flanagan told us, "I am totally unaware of any facts that would give rise to an involuntary manslaughter charge."
As TMZ first reported, the LAPD is expected to hand over their case to the L.A. District Attorney in a matter of weeks. We're told the D.A will almost certainly criminally charge Murray in MJ's death.
TMZ are going crazy today with these stories.. whats going on and why imply that Murray is going to get off before a court case has even begun?
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Surprise!
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Ha! Murray will never see the darkness of a dungeon jail cell..i knew it! The hoax train is moving along. :lol:
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Has any other news source besides TMZ reported anything on this? I am not seeing anything so far.
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I just really, really, really hope we are right and this is a hoax... coz if it's not and Murray gets off... MJ gets no justice.
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
It happens all the time? Where? It definitely doesnt happen all the time in the UK!!
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The only punishment that makes me believe that Michael really is dead, is a torture to death punishment.
But as I've said, Conrad Murray isn't a real name, a false name can't be judged, a false name can't be confirmed guilty/(death in Michael Joe Jackson's case)
Michael's actor will walk innoncent out from the court, and this thing doesn't start before some weeks..
-Within then Michael might be back!
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
It happens all the time? Where? It definitely doesnt happen all the time in the UK!!
And not outside of a hospital ..........
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
It happens all the time? Where? It definitely doesnt happen all the time in the UK!!
And not outside of a hospital ..........
This would be the perfect opportunity for the police and the courts to make an example out of these "feel good" doctors who use and abuse their patients trust by pumping them full of drugs that do more harm than good.
They have no conscience and care more about their wallets than the Hippocratic oath.
Think how many people have died in 2009 alone due to prescription drug abuse and how many celebs have come foul of it.
This would be a great time for the courts to crack down on this idiotic practice and throw the book at Murray and make him an example to the rest of the worlds doctors.. send out a message that this will not be tolerated.
Just because "its happened before and no-one has gone to jail".. isnt good enough. So we all supposed to sigh, sit back and let this one go?
If Michael JAckson really is dead, then Dr Murray has robbed the Worlds of a great talent and thrown a spotlight onto the shady practices of these doctors.
JUSTICE. Keep fighting... shame on anyone that throws in the towel and doesnt fight for a change.
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
This doctor showed gross negligence. I can't agree that this case is weak. It is quite different from any other I have ever heard about. If Michael is indeed dead from this asshole who was on the premises at the time and not monitoring Michael and beating him to death breaking his damn ribs trying to perform cpr for crying out loud, and neglecting to dial 911 in a timely manner..he is a straight up murderer.
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
This doctor showed gross negligence. I can't agree that this case is weak. It is quite different from any other I have ever heard about. If Michael is indeed dead from this asshole who was on the premises at the time and not monitoring Michael and beating him to death breaking his damn ribs trying to perform cpr for crying out loud, and neglecting to dial 911 in a timely manner..he is a straight up murderer.
Kinda funny.. But it's damn sad. Michael didn't deserve this. Therefore I think he was smarter than employe an idiot.. I would rather call Bear Grylls or Survivorman, than having an uproffsional "dr" that didn't know how to do CPR!! :lol: If this is true, which I so badly don't think.. I think Murray is the most stupid person ever.. Can't do CPR when you are doctor.. Jesus christ. I learned that in 4th grade.
I think seriously MJ, and his team would check the doctor they had in their house.
-Like doing CPR, and stop bleedings etc.. Important things to rescue a person that was about to die.
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Nobody is neither dead nor asleep from PROP OF FOOL.
valenz96
P-R-O-P-O-F-O-L = FOOL+ PROP = The prop used to fool the industry into thinking that he had been sleep induced for eternity. Who is the fool now?
http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2009/1 ... lue-0-0-3/ (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/inspector-cluseaus-clue-0-0-3/)
Annie's findings on Propofol:
[Propofol provides loss of awareness ]
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-thi ... .htm#10263 (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/propofol-diprivan-the-media-story-vs-facts-t491.htm#10263)
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this is about the lawyer he going to use....so they have already got the getting off the hook sorted out...wow, this should be good.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/murrays-n ... -propofol/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/murrays-new-lawyer-i-know-propofol/)
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
It happens all the time? Where? It definitely doesnt happen all the time in the UK!!
Neither in Canada :shock:
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The only punishment that makes me believe that Michael really is dead, is a torture to death punishment.
But as I've said, Conrad Murray isn't a real name, a false name can't be judged, a false name can't be confirmed guilty/(death in Michael Joe Jackson's case)
Michael's actor will walk innoncent out from the court, and this thing doesn't start before some weeks..
-Within then Michael might be back!
I agree with you if he had some serious sentence i migt believe there is a doctor conrad but at the moment I do not I think it is act 1 begin now
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I really think we're grasping
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I really think we're grasping at thin air now :(
... Stop complaining.... You should read the text, not only the title.. You kinda make me frustrated with your whining about "He might be dead.."
We're here to invest the hoax, not cry that he might be dead.. Change the world, Michael said.. Would be better for him, than crying over him.
I'm not trying to be rude, but don't give up so easily. We have so much proves.
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I really think we're grasping at thin air now :(
Why would you say such a thing... :?: :?: :?:
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even if michael is dead, he is not going to jail. the case is really weak. anesthesia intoxication happens all the time and no one goes to jail because of it.
This doctor showed gross negligence. I can't agree that this case is weak. It is quite different from any other I have ever heard about. If Michael is indeed dead from this asshole who was on the premises at the time and not monitoring Michael and beating him to death breaking his damn ribs trying to perform cpr for crying out loud, and neglecting to dial 911 in a timely manner..he is a straight up murderer.
I agree. And was Murray even licensed to prescribe or administer drugs in California? That should be, at the very least, enough for them to suspend his license. I don't understand how he can still be practicing.
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Look, the "crime scene" was spoilt, it's obvious this is a weak case.
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Does this News come before the other TMZ's news about Murray upcoming's charging ? If it came after it reassure me a little
Because that lawyer seem pretty confident , he must have been selected as the right man for the situation
Okay it up my hope again ( the other one about Murray probably getting charged really freaked me out)
We still have hope
Here come the lawyer !
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:roll: heyyy theres a surprise !! :)
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Ithought Dr. Murray is struggling with alot of payments like his child support payments and all that good stuff...so how can he afford the BEST LAWYER POSSIBLE?!?!?!?!?!!?...hm maybe someone is helping him, someone with alot of money ;)
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Hello
One thing I want to point out
Michael did not die of cardiac arrest but respiratory arrest...
In this case CPR is not used because the heart is still beating... A respiratory machine must be used.. yes it does happen in surgery and they use a respirator for a few hours.
So Why Dr Murray performed CPR.. I have no clue.. was he that dumb? I do not think so..
I am losing hope about Michael being alive but a few facts still bother me
Why waiting to call 911 when seconds are critical
Why TMZ knew Michael's death before UCLA
WHY only ONE picture of Michael in the ambulance? What is the name of this photographer?
Why Joe Jackson smiling with Rev. Jackson after his son passed away?
Why buying 3 caskets from Batesville??
Why Michael filmed his This is It almost all the same day (same red shirt) there was supposed to be 200 hours of footage???
NO Feeling from the Jackson family but a lot of cash in!!!!
WHERE IS THE CASH? Michael always kept cash in the house
WHY the following day they came with a truck to remove belonging from MJ's house.. Isn"t there an investigation to be made when there is a death even if it is of natural cause?????
The family came to Vegas (Janet and Latoya i believe) and tried to remove belongings from his house here... but the house was locked down by the cops.... that is how it is supposed to be.. right? so why not in Los Angeles????
Have you also noticed that the family does not look at his coffin at the memorial but look up... would you not look at your brother who is right in front of you??? or sing to HIM and not to an audience like Jermaine did and then sell the song????? sick
I do hope Michael is alive but we have to keep on focussing on the facts.. a lot of fakes on Twitter people just playing around.. if it is in fact a hoax then nobody will speak... just looking for the slipups and let's see what Murray has to see in court.... How can he afford such a big lawyer when he could not pay child support????
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@hoaxornot. We do not know if it was cardiac arrest or respiratory failure. The death certificate does not state either and like you said.. why do CPR if his heart is still beating?
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From what Dr Murray and TMZ... Michael was not breathing but had a pulse.. that is respiratory arrest which is common with propofol and all medication like valium and the pam family when taken in high quantity... Also which is interesting propofol is used to put you to sleep but not to keep you asleep.. (That is from my friend who is a doctor and using propofol everyday)
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Also I would like to add then of course after respiratory arrest comes cardiac arrest... If you stop breathing.. you die.. from cardiac arrest
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So.. Propofol puts you to sleep but doesnt keep you asleep. So what is the point in it? Confused.
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Thats why everyone is confused as why they were administering propofol...It puts you to sleep but you dont get your RIM sleep so you will still be tired when you wake up as if you didnt get rest...And if it were respiratory failure he should have done rescue breathing for Michael...I am 19 with my first aid thingy...so if even I know how to do a Doctor should know when to do rescue breathing or CPR...and if things change where his heart stops as well then you do both...Ugh Even if a 19 year old was there ,who only took a semester of first aid, would be able to do more for Michael than Dr. Murray...paleeeasse how can he still practice if he didnt know the simple basics of first aid care :roll: :roll:
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This would be the perfect opportunity for the police and the courts to make an example out of these "feel good" doctors who use and abuse their patients trust by pumping them full of drugs that do more harm than good.
They have no conscience and care more about their wallets than the Hippocratic oath.
Think how many people have died in 2009 alone due to prescription drug abuse and how many celebs have come foul of it.
This would be a great time for the courts to crack down on this idiotic practice and throw the book at Murray and make him an example to the rest of the worlds doctors.. send out a message that this will not be tolerated.
Just because "its happened before and no-one has gone to jail".. isnt good enough. So we all supposed to sigh, sit back and let this one go?
If Michael JAckson really is dead, then Dr Murray has robbed the Worlds of a great talent and thrown a spotlight onto the shady practices of these doctors.
JUSTICE. Keep fighting... shame on anyone that throws in the towel and doesnt fight for a change.
Well said, Dancing the Dance. A fight to the bitter end for justice!!!!!! :D I am never giving up! :D The truth will prevail. Whatever happened to MJ. I pray to God for justice. I know that God hears my prayers!
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Nobody is neither dead nor asleep from PROP OF FOOL.
valenz96
P-R-O-P-O-F-O-L = FOOL+ PROP = The prop used to fool the industry into thinking that he had been sleep induced for eternity.
Who is the fool now?
Lol, who could have said it better? :lol:
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Murray's New Lawyer -- I Know Propofol
1/8/2010 2:40 PM PST by TMZ Staff
Dr. Conrad Murray's new lawyer claims he's the best of the best when it comes to cases involving Propofol and death -- and dude has the track record to prove it.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/01/08/0108_conrad_flanagan_michael_exd._tmz_01-1.jpg)
TMZ spoke to J. Michael Flanagan who told us, "I'm probably the only attorney in town that has successfully tried a Propofol case involving death."
Back in 2004, Flanagan defended a nurse who was accused of wrongly administering the stuff to a patient who later died. The nurse was charged with involuntary manslaughter -- the same crime we're told the D.A. is likely to charge Murray with. But with Flanagan by her side, the nurse was acquitted.
As for Murray's role in the Michael Jackson case, Flanagan told us, "I am totally unaware of any facts that would give rise to an involuntary manslaughter charge."
As TMZ first reported, the LAPD is expected to hand over their case to the L.A. District Attorney in a matter of weeks. We're told the D.A will almost certainly criminally charge Murray in MJ's death.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/murrays-new-lawyer-i-know-propofol/
COURT TESTIMONY REVEALS NEW DETAILS ABOUT DEATH.
Byline: Alex Dobuzinskis Staff Writer
BURBANK - New details came to light this past week in the case of two nurses facing trial for involuntary manslaughter in the death of a Providence Saint Joseph Medical Center cancer patient given a sedative sedative, without a doctor's order.
Registered nurses Kelly Miyasato, 32, of Redondo Beach and Amy Brunner, 26, of Alhambra are set for arraignment A criminal proceeding at which the defendant is officially called before a court of competent jurisdiction, informed of the offense charged in the complaint, information, indictment, or other charging document, and asked to enter a plea of guilty, not guilty, or as otherwise permitted Jan. 28.
Eighty-year-old Burbank resident Pierre Azar's heart decelerated after he was given the sedative shortly after 2 a.m. on June 7, 2003, and he was pronounced dead 10 minutes later, said Deputy District Attorney Vesna Maras.
In preliminary hearing testimony Wednesday, Sue Kohl, director of risk management, regulatory compliance and patient safety at the hospital, said Miyasato admitted to administering the sedative to Azar because "she just thought it would help the patient.''
Permission should have been given by Azar's physician before the sedative was administered, Kohl said. Kohl said Brunner admitted to getting the prescription sedative Diprivan and leaving it on the counter for Miyasato, after Miyasato told Brunner her patient was trying to climb out of the bed. Brunner also admitted to using a syringe to take the sedative from the running intravenous system of another patient, which put that patient at risk for infection, Kohl said.
"They are not being prosecuted because they intentionally harmed or wanted to harm this patient or kill him,'' said Maras, the deputy D.A. Paul Loh, the attorney for Miyasato, did not immediately return a call Friday. Michael Flanagan, Brunner's attorney, said "the whole issue is you've got a nurse (Miyasato) that was a little bit panic-stricken because she was having trouble managing a terminally ill Terminally Ill cancer patient.''
When Brunner gave Miyasato the syringe, she assumed her colleague would not administer the entire amount in it, Flanagan said. "But apparently (Miyasato) gave him the entire syringe-full, which was quite surprising to my client,'' he said. Miyasato and Brunner were working in the intensive care unit and both of them had only two patients that evening, the deputy district attorney said. "When you look at the options available and you look at the amount of patients, it's not exactly the same as an ER with a train wreck train wreck'' Maras said.
If convicted of both counts, Miyasato and Brunner could each face up to four years and eight months in prison, she said. Both nurses began working at Providence Saint Joseph Medical Center in 2002, said Brian Greene a spokesman for the hospital. They were suspended on June 7 and "separated'' from the hospital on June 11, he said.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/COURT+TESTIMONY+REVEALS+NEW+DETAILS+ABOUT+DEATH.-a0112326982
NURSE FOUND NOT GUILTY IN PATIENT DEATH VERDICT: 'MISTAKE IN JUDGMENT'.
Byline: Alex Dobuzinskis Staff Writer
PASADENA - A former Providence Saint Joseph Medical Center nurse was acquitted Wednesday of involuntary manslaughter in the death of a terminally ill Burbank man who was given a powerful drug without doctor's orders.
Amy Brunner, 26, was accused of leaving the anesthetic anesthetic Diprivan in a syringe on June 7, 2003, for fellow nurse Kelly Miyasato, 32, to administer to Pierre Azar, 80, who was suffering from cancer. Azar was pronounced dead 10 minutes after Miyasato administered the drug.
Brunner's attorney, J. Michael Flanagan, said jurors found that Azar's death resulted from "a mistake in judgment'' but not manslaughter on the part of Brunner. "She's feeling very, very relieved that this nightmare has come to an end,'' Flanagan said.
The state Board of Registered Nursing has filed administrative charges against both nurses. Hearings on those charges are scheduled for March, but they still have their licenses. Brunner is working as a nurse in a medical office, Flanagan said.
The jury deliberated all day Wednesday at Pasadena Superior Court and came back Thursday morning and returned its verdict. "While Ms. Brunner violated the medical center's policy as well as the scope of her nursing practice by providing a medication without a doctor's prescription, we are aware that she never meant to harm the patient. She was only trying to help another nurse in the care of the patient,'' Patrick Petre, the hospital's administrator, said in a statement.
The nurses are no longer working at the hospital. Miyasato pleaded no contest Monday to practicing medicine without certification and had an involuntary manslaughter charge dismissed. She was sentenced to five years' probation and 350 hours of community service.
Diprivan, a fast-acting drug that can stop a patient from breathing, is only supposed to be administered through a syringe if the patient is breathing with a respirator and if a doctor is present, according to according to prosecutors. Miyasato gave Azar, who was not on a respirator, the drug in the early morning hours, when no doctor was nearby.
Flanagan said he is in settlement negotiations with the Board of Registered Nursing and that Brunner will not lose her license. An attorney for the agency would not confirm whether those negotiations are under way.
Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the District Attorney's Office, said "this was a case that needed to be taken to a jury.''
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/NURSE+FOUND+NOT+GUILTY+IN+PATIENT+DEATH+VERDICT%3A+%27MISTAKE+IN...-a0124231339
Michael Flannagan is Murray's lawyer and he got his client Amy Brunner acquitted of the charges against her and she retained her nursing license.
The other defendant, Kelly Miyasato "pleaded no contest Monday to practicing medicine without certification and had an involuntary manslaughter charge dismissed." But she had her nursing license revoked.
BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING
Licensee Name: MIYASATO KELLY ANN
License Type: Registered Nurse
License Number: 575084
License Status: REVOKED
Expiration Date: December 31, 2006
Issue Date: December 14, 2000
County: LOS ANGELES
Actions: Yes
Related Licenses/Registrations/Permits
No records returned
Disciplinary Actions
Public documents relating to this action are available here: http://rn.ca.gov/public/rn575084.pdf (http://rn.ca.gov/public/rn575084.pdf)
April 09, 2004 Accusation Filed
January 24, 2005 Supplemental/Amended Accusation Filed
June 05, 2006 Revocation
http://projects.propublica.org/nurses/nurses/575084
Here is a link to the pdf concerning the revocation of her license: http://rn.ca.gov/public/rn575084.pdf
On page 10 it says that she graduated from "a two year program at Los Angeles County - USC Medical Centre"
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/KellyM.jpg)
Guess where it seems she works now...
Kelly Miyasato
Administrative Analyst at UCLA Medical Center
Work on UCLA wait list for prospective kidney and pancreas transplant candidates, monitor QA of UCLA database and with UNOS database to assume accuracies and remedy discrepencies, formulate new policies and procedures to maintain UCLA's wait list; generate reports using spreadsheets to target specific patient population at UCLA wait list.
(Frequent contact with terminally ill patients?)
Administrative Analyst
UCLA Medical Center- Health, Wellness and Fitness industry
July 2006 — August 2008 (2 years 2 months)
with areas of expertise include analyzing program services, developing protocols, maintaining databases, data entry, scanning, medical terminology, ICD-9, CPT and quality assurance. Computer proficient in typical software applications, such a Word and Excel. A team-oriented professional dedicated to improving the quality of healthcare services.
Education: Los Angeles County, School of Nursing
Associates Degree in Nursing , Medical , 1998 — 2000
(It's the right person, a two year program ending in the year 2000)
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kelly-miyasato/5/795/329
Amy Brunner also links to the recent videos I made about a patient of Murray's "Eliza Robertson"...but all of this is most likely a coincidence, I am sure. ;)