Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: mjboogie on January 16, 2010, 12:39:53 AM

Title: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjboogie on January 16, 2010, 12:39:53 AM
OK am I just crazy or....... during the Larry King interview Kai stated what happened to MJ during June 25th? I do see that she was unusually happy! i mean smiling, like she was doing a cover girl commercial or something. :roll:  Anywayss wasn't there an interview that Kai did with Access Hollywood where she state "We prayed for MJ to be alright.......and he was alright" Am I wrong. Because I am going to tell you guys something. Her stories conflict of course but also she was just waaaaaay to happy on Larry king!!! Just like Jermaine was waaaaaaaaaay to happy on Larry King!
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: Christiana on January 16, 2010, 12:47:23 AM
I don't know about her statement on AH, but I've always felt that she was very calm and definitely not UNhappy when she told her story about what happened that day. I mean, she was very calm...I didn't sense any sadness or anything of the sort about her in ANY of her interviews. I've always found that strange....if he's really dead.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 16, 2010, 06:08:50 AM
I remember when she first came out that somebody on Youtube said she was an actress. Does anybody remember this?  Another thing she said which is slightly off-topic is that no one was allowed upstairs.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: BlessHisHeart on January 16, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
I don't remember the AH interview either...looked it up on YT, but just found the part of the AH interview when she speaks of MJ checkin her out....but I caught the Today show interview and she did seem very unshaken by the whole thing...as a matter of fact, after the interview, they had her do a mini cooking segment to show what she used to make for MJ and his kids....as well as what she made on that fateful morning...
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjgirl86 on January 16, 2010, 10:52:43 AM
Quote from: "liegi"
I remember when she first came out that somebody on Youtube said she was an actress. Does anybody remember this?  Another thing she said which is slightly off-topic is that no one was allowed upstairs.

I know, the upstairs thing, I always found odd, but who said she was an actress, do we have any more info on that?...
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 16, 2010, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: "mjgirl86"
Quote from: "liegi"
I remember when she first came out that somebody on Youtube said she was an actress. Does anybody remember this?  Another thing she said which is slightly off-topic is that no one was allowed upstairs.

I know, the upstairs thing, I always found odd, but who said she was an actress, do we have any more info on that?...

Ive heard that before, though.  At Neverland MJs bedroom was out of bounds to staff and the cleaner wasnt even allowed to clean in there.  
I think that is just MJs way of getting privacy.  His bedroom is his space and his space alone.  I can understand that and if i was rich enough to have "staff" then i think i would ban them from certain rooms too.

I have also seen an interview in which Kai Chase said she found out prescription drugs were found in her name, and that she felt betrayed about that.  Maybe she is angry with MJ
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: flory24 on January 16, 2010, 11:06:36 AM
I found something about Kai Chase. if it was posted before I apologize.
What do you think?

http://www.kaichase.com/kai_chase_bio.html (http://www.kaichase.com/kai_chase_bio.html)
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the arabian nights on January 16, 2010, 11:34:18 AM
I would have thought that she would have been covered by a tight confid agreement, it is surprising that she made comments, especially in view of possible criminal proceedings, but maybe she feels bigger than her employers? i do not know i do not want to be unkind to anyone? Maybe she is just trying to provide information to the  public about the day?
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: BlessHisHeart on January 16, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
^^Hmmm, they don't mention MJ in her list of celebrity clients....maybe because (1)this page was made before she worked for him?? or (2) she never really worked for him...
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 16, 2010, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: "Christiana"
I don't know about her statement on AH, but I've always felt that she was very calm and definitely not UNhappy when she told her story about what happened that day. I mean, she was very calm...I didn't sense any sadness or anything of the sort about her in ANY of her interviews. I've always found that strange....if he's really dead.

My feelings exactly.  I was like WTH, she wasTHERE and from what I heard,correct me if I am wrong, FIRED on the spot with all the rest of the staff (whom we've never been told who those other people in the house ordered out abruptly actually was[/color]) when MJ was being worked on upstairs.  I would have been pulling out my hair and hyper ventilating and in tears probably rolling around on the floor. :lol:   Plus there is NO WAY they could've kept me from going upstairs unless by force when I learned there was something wrong, terribly wrong with Michael.  NO WAY.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: virgo75 on January 16, 2010, 11:52:38 AM
Kai is shady to me....

A couple of days after MJ "died", I saw part of an interview with her(not sure where it was though) and she's smiling and laughing talking about how one time he checked out her butt.   :roll:

Long story short, she said that she was going over some menu or something with him and was leaving the room, when she happened to look over her shoulder and saw his eyes on her butt.  At that point she burst out laughing and said she was like "OKAAAAYYY!!!" with a big smile and laugh.   :roll:    

I hope and pray that she's in on it, if not she's just tacky and heartless to talk like that when she thinks he's passed.   :(
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mirandacnc on January 16, 2010, 11:57:03 AM
i agree wth is wrong with these ppl if he did really die ,selfish bastards :evil:
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the arabian nights on January 16, 2010, 11:58:16 AM
maybe she is part of the hoax
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 16, 2010, 02:51:43 PM
I wish my  memory were better.  She was mentioned in one of the hoax videos. Could it be Piano Games?  It was one of the better known ones that were posted on the old MJHD forum.  The author said he was going to talk about Kai Chase in the next episode and I remember thinking that he had made some points. Then it never surfaced or else I missed it (could be because I went to the States).  
Couple of strange things I noticed from your postings:
--she was raised in Hollywood and belongs to a showbiz family (so she could be an actress too).
--maybe MJ wanted his privacy, but they could have been hiding something too.
--do you think they made her cook on the Today Show to make sure she wasn't fibbing?  I remember seeing the two hosts observing her with a steadfast gaze.  
--she's just too light-hearted, too fake..

I smell a rat.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 16, 2010, 03:23:41 PM
Why would Michael need her on tour.  He hardly ever ate anything she couldn't mix in a blender.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: lisap27 on January 16, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
i agree wth is wrong with these ppl if he did really die ,selfish bastards :evil:

this is what is pearcing me through to the core!! how heartless some people are.. family included.. i mean we have cried buckets for a guy we never really knew.. and everyone else is still dissin him and using his name in vain!!

if this isn't a HOAX then KARMA has a way of catching up with people!!  :twisted:

and if it is a HOAX then hats off to them for acting like they don't care and keeping to the script!!  ;)
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mirandacnc on January 16, 2010, 03:29:45 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
i agree wth is wrong with these ppl if he did really die ,selfish bastards :evil:

this is what is pearcing me through to the core!! how heartless some people are.. family included.. i mean we have cried buckets for a guy we never really knew.. and everyone else is still dissin him and using his name in vain!!

if this isn't a HOAX then KARMA has a way of catching up with people!!  :twisted:

and if it is a HOAX then hats off to them for acting like they don't care and keeping to the script!!  ;)

agreed lisap!
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjboogie on January 16, 2010, 07:03:30 PM
Dang! MJ had the hots for her!!! WOw :) That is soooo funny she would tell that story. No wonder when she was on Larry King she kept smiling and laughing. Why would he want to take her with him to the shows? Well because he had the hots for her. ;) But seriously I do believe she was featured in Jonell Stars hoax video in which she told Access or the NO wait!! GUys. ... I believe it was the news show entitled Insider? SHe said to the reporter "We prayed for MJ to be alright, and he was alright"
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 16, 2010, 07:12:24 PM
If Michael wasn't getting any, I would think anything would start looking like a possibility after a while.  She in the kitchen throwing stuff in the blender, the motors purring, and his imagination going boing, boing, boink :lol:   I hope she didn't think she was the only one who was turning his head.  Sorry Kai.  You were just another tempting dish on the menu in the restaurant that he passed up.  I hardly think Michael would have taken that liberty with the help.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: Crescendo on January 17, 2010, 12:53:26 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
OK am I just crazy or....... during the Larry King interview Kai stated what happened to MJ during June 25th? I do see that she was unusually happy! i mean smiling, like she was doing a cover girl commercial or something. :roll:  Anywayss wasn't there an interview that Kai did with Access Hollywood where she state "We prayed for MJ to be alright.......and he was alright" Am I wrong. Because I am going to tell you guys something. Her stories conflict of course but also she was just waaaaaay to happy on Larry king!!! Just like Jermaine was waaaaaaaaaay to happy on Larry King!


I thought she seemed happy because she was there promoting her new cookbook.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: BlessHisHeart on January 17, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Why would Michael need her on tour.  He hardly ever ate anything she couldn't mix in a blender.

:lol: I know, right??
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: virgo75 on January 17, 2010, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Why would Michael need her on tour.  He hardly ever ate anything she couldn't mix in a blender.


His kids were supposed to be with him and they probably eat REAL food.    :lol:

Kids don't go for that blender ish. lol
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: kelly wright on January 18, 2010, 10:37:11 AM
If she works in Hospitality ,she is an actress ,I am a Captain for a catering CO I have waited on and supervised private functions for a lot of country music stars .And you have to be somewhat of an actress in this BIz . So it would probably be easy for her to act .People can be rude as hell ,but you got to keep that smile ,and make sure your eyes and facial expressions don't give away that you may feel annoyed  or pressured . It takes practice, but I am way different at work than I am outside of work .
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 18, 2010, 10:47:06 AM
MJ is a man and Kai is a very pretty lady...do you blame him for checking out her tushie? I dont.

Do we, the females on this board not check out MJ in his gold pants? We do..

As far as SHE is concerned, I didnt see her on LKL but what I have seen of her, she does seem a little nonchalant about the whole thing....as everyone else does too.
This is Michael Jackson we are talking about here...........I dont recall ANYONE showing any kind of severe grief at the thought of his death...people that SHOULD have broken down in uncontrollable sadness while being interviewed...
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the arabian nights on January 18, 2010, 11:41:04 AM
right!
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 18, 2010, 12:51:30 PM
I know. That's what bothers me. No one seems upset or surprised. We know it was staged, we just can't prove it. I think it has something to do with rebranding. The king of pop is gone, but I'm sure MJ is still here.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 18, 2010, 12:59:25 PM
Quote from: "liegi"
I know. That's what bothers me. No one seems upset or surprised. We know it was staged, we just can't prove it. I think it has something to do with rebranding. The king of pop is gone, but I'm sure MJ is still here.


Rebranding? Then why go thru the hassle of planning everything? The memorial? The burial? Why wouldnt MJ just re-work and re-emerge out of hiding and make a statement as such?
"I, Michael Jackson, no longer wish to be known as the king of pop. It will forever be my legacy, but I am embarking on newer and bigger projects and plan on re-inventing myself...stay tuned.."

Something like that? Having someone "die" to rebrand themsleves seems a little extreme to me.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjjveritas on January 18, 2010, 01:17:20 PM
MJ is a "pioneer". "Dying" is an original way to renew MJ's image in the world of entertainment. Prince changed his name to release his records (I believe Prince had record company problems so it was a way of getting his work out). MJ is doing something that has not been done before. At least I hope this is the case.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 18, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
I agree that dying seems extreme.  I'm just trying to think outside the box because I know his death was staged, but I can't understand what went on exactly.  I suppose that Michael Jackson was not selling as early as 1999, 2000??  I don't have the facts or figures, I am just surmising.  The man obviously  knows everything there is to know about marketing and the entertainment business.  He tried everything.  So he promised fans their favourite songs (02 conference) and one last show (TII).  
Joe Jackson said that the king of pop had to be celebrated in a special way (little groups of light, the Memorial).  Do you think Joe Jackson dreamed this up himself??  Come on. Do you think Katherine dreamed up the  memorial and the burial? No way.  There are too many symbols, too many clues for the people that know Michael.
I don't know....I am just trying to think at his level.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the arabian nights on January 18, 2010, 02:31:31 PM
death is not rebranding. its the death nail in your career. its the end it is not the start.

he fought hard to be known as the king of pop, why would he want to lose that, money can't buy that branding achievement.

a direction change could have been done at any time he had time since 2006 when he was moving around, but from what i can see he was looking at new music.

there was so much he could have done, i would have loved a lego ps3 thriller game, so cool that would have been.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 18, 2010, 03:10:16 PM
I know. There were so many things he could have done. Why something so extreme? It's just so frustrating trying to understand.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjjveritas on January 18, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
Death is only the end for the individual if they really die. Sales revenue can increase if an artist really dies e.g. Elvis. For this discussion let's assume EP is really dead. MJ is a "record breaker" in all that he does. Whether it's the longest video or piece as I know MJ likes to say, or donations to charitable causes or innovating dance, MJ is revolutionary in his approach to his craft. I think that is what we are experiencing with this whole adventure.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 18, 2010, 05:06:12 PM
Yes, it's probably an exercise in extreme creativity which we can understand only to a small extent, or partially.  MJ has been part of the music business for 45 years.  I don't think there is any artist alive that has been around as long as he has. Who knows what he has seen or experienced or felt?  In addition, he is around people and technologies because of his connection to Sony that are far ahead of what we know now.  They are probably experimenting with technologies that will be used ten years from now.  Maybe this is part of an artistic experiment that will be years in the making. It's an adventure he told us.  He instructed his dancers not to be nervous.  
This is his evolution as a person and as an artist.  After all, the 80s are finally over, aren't they?  Maybe this coming decade is about inner development as opposed to the outward display of wealth that was typical of the last part of the 20th century.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: EternalBliss on January 18, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
OH YEAH!! I forgot all about her saying that..SHE DID SAY THAT! HA!
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjjveritas on January 18, 2010, 05:19:13 PM
liegi, Regarding MJ in TII speaking to the dancers do you not think MJ was telling us, the audience/fans not to be nervous? MJ did not seem to look around at the group if he was addressing them? I think you have some interesting points in your last post particularly about new technology and it being an artistic and extreme experiment.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 19, 2010, 01:06:52 AM
yes, mjjveritas.  I never thought of Michael Jackson that way because I took him for granted and placed him aside Madonna and other icons of the 80s (I was more of a classic rock person myself).  After his "death" I began to delve into his ART.  Then, as we all have, I became fascinated by the artist and the persona.  It became obvious, as it has to the others, that he was not what he let the world perceive.  After you scratch the surface, you discover the depths that were his reality.  This is what makes him stand out over all the other artists.  Other popular artists simply lack his depth. I attribute this to his knowledge of the the so-called "business".  Yes, I think the technology may be behind this.  Do you remember the posting about the aliases he used for drugs?  They were supposed to be aliases of people in high-tech.  I am trying to research blu-ray technology and its role in this.  Soon, we will be able to do doctoral theses on these matters!!! Kidding aside, this has shown how shallow and superficial the media really is.  He has really demonstrated that they really do not portray the truth.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mjjveritas on January 19, 2010, 07:14:27 AM
liegi, I've always been fascinated with MJ because as you point out he has a depth about him. There is mystery, charisma in abundance and a uniqueness about MJ which makes him incomparable. I don't care about other artists and what they get up to. MJ is different. To quote his character in "Thriller", "I'm not like other guys". That always makes me smile. Regarding your point about the aliases, I didn't know they were names of hi-tech people?
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: Rux on January 23, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEMizSwjC3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEMizSwjC3I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9eNaElHdDk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9eNaElHdDk)

First time i watched these 2 videos something strange, to say the least, caught my eye. It seems to me Kai is repeating several uneccessary  details in her statements, which wouldn't be wrong but the way she says things ..there's just something fishy in it... Bear with me, please :) Here are just a few of the details that she repeated/mentioned which I found to be out of place and extremely unnatural :

-mentioning the way MJ liked his food (hotel food). She repeats it in both videos.
-she mentions the stairwell that leads into the kitchen. She repeats it in both videos.
-"security skipping stairs". Repeats exact same expression.
-"come together in unity". Repeats exact same expression.
- ...the den, which is not far from the kitchen.. She repeats it in both videos.

Imagine yourself retelling someone about a very important sad event which you were a part of... or any event for that matter. Then imagine yourself retelling that same event to someone else.. would you use the same expressions,  you did with the first person?  

You really have to watch these videos in order to get what I'm saying. On the surface, there's nothing wrong with what she says. But it seemed to me like she wrote it down somewhere and learnt it by heart. Either she was hiding something or she was lying. Repeating details is a sign of lying.
From my life experience, whenever I told someone something and then told some one else that same exact story, i didn't use the same specific unnecessary details. Because when you have a true memory in your head you will portray it on a subjective level, rather than on an objective level. What I mean is, you will express the feelings you have connected to that event, rather than repeat specific non-essential  details about it.

Of course, I could be very wrong...I'm very interested in what people on this forum think about it.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 23, 2010, 04:38:26 PM
Well, I think Kai doesn't convince us for many reasons.  You have described some of the things that just don't make sense in her interviews. She rings false. Why indeed would she repeat the same details? Why mention MJ flirted with her?  You could tell the Today show journalist was skeptical (probably why they recreated the meals on television).  Finally, why was she the only one who spoke after the "death"?  Wouldn't other staff have stepped forward?
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: Rux on January 23, 2010, 05:04:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2nQlI9T2uE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2nQlI9T2uE)
this is the video where she supposedly says "and he was ok".. it seems to me she just repeated "that he was ok"   :?:
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 23, 2010, 05:31:47 PM
I've never seen that video. She looks exhausted.  Who was that person with her?  I heard "that he was OK" too. There's a look in her eyes that is not convincing. She is either acting or withholding info.  Notice how she stammers when the reporter asks why was Prince asked to go upstairs.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mirandacnc on January 23, 2010, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: "liegi"
I've never seen that video. She looks exhausted.  Who was that person with her?  I heard "that he was OK" too. There's a look in her eyes that is not convincing. She is either acting or withholding info.  Notice how she stammers when the reporter asks why was Prince asked to go upstairs.


i dont get why orince was asked to come upstairs anyway! and why in the hell would she send him if something was SERIOUSLY wrong like she said ?
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 23, 2010, 06:00:25 PM
She mentioned that she looked at her cell phone and learned it was noon or something like that.  Were there no clocks in the home?  Also she said the nanny and the housekeeper were present.  They gathered in a circle, blah, blah.  Who was the nanny at that time?  Nanny Grace?  Were these 2 people ever interviewed?  I mean I would think that EVERY body on the premises would have been interviewed at some point.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the_lost_child on January 23, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
She mentioned that she looked at her cell phone and learned it was noon or something like that.  Were there no clocks in the home?  Also she said the nanny and the housekeeper were present.  They gathered in a circle, blah, blah.  Who was the nanny at that time?  Nanny Grace?  Were these 2 people ever interviewed?  I mean I would think that EVERY body on the premises would have been interviewed at some point.
Grace couldn't be present, 'cause she was in London that day. Deepak Chopa wrote on June 26th:

Quote
His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwaramba , is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge. How heartbreaking for Grace that no one's protective instincts and genuine love could avert this tragic day. An hour ago she was sobbing on the telephone from London. As a result, I couldn't help but write this brief remembrance in sadness. But when the shock subsides and a thousand public voices recount Michael's brilliant, joyous, embattled, enigmatic, bizarre trajectory, I hope the word "joyous" is the one that will rise from the ashes and shine as he once did.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: mirandacnc on January 23, 2010, 06:11:26 PM
did grace  say she was there?
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: kel70 on January 24, 2010, 11:29:25 AM
i truly think kai chase is lying, did you see her smiling after she said they was praying mj would be ok  :lol:   and whos the guy she was with, they went to ask her about her name (i think) on the perscription drugs and he barged in on that one and done the rest of the talking...
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 11:44:56 AM
i dont like her attitude,its all about her, she has a publicist.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: Boreas on January 25, 2010, 12:03:16 PM
the only person that I have seen break down is Stevie Wonder when he played that song...other then that, you don't see much grief from anyone else.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 25, 2010, 12:24:06 PM
Does a "cook" need a publicist?  Give me a break.
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "liegi"
I know. That's what bothers me. No one seems upset or surprised. We know it was staged, we just can't prove it. I think it has something to do with rebranding. The king of pop is gone, but I'm sure MJ is still here.


Rebranding? Then why go thru the hassle of planning everything? The memorial? The burial? Why wouldnt MJ just re-work and re-emerge out of hiding and make a statement as such?
"I, Michael Jackson, no longer wish to be known as the king of pop. It will forever be my legacy, but I am embarking on newer and bigger projects and plan on re-inventing myself...stay tuned.."

Something like that? Having someone "die" to rebrand themsleves seems a little extreme to me.

i totally agree with you
Title: Re: Kai Chase......Again.
Post by: liegi on January 25, 2010, 04:01:50 PM
Yes, I can see your point. However, I think he has tried this at various times with varying degrees of success.  It's just what I am seeing on the other side of the pond, not having a tv and having been totally astonished at his "passing".  I just can't make heads or tails of it.  On the one hand, he does appear tired and thin in TII, but he does not appear to be drugged.  Nothing makes sense.
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