Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Truth_Freedom on January 19, 2010, 04:08:37 PM
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After nearly 7 months I can not believe that people are still falsely accusing the family of faking their emotions when they are obviously in deep pain. I don't understand why I am still seeing posts about folks in the family being ACTORS, about family members lying and about Mother Jackson possibly pretending to be sad and putting on a show. That is absolutely ridiculous! She would never do such a thing because she is not an actress so people who believe that she would really need to look at things from a logical perspective.
The Hoax: If Michael decided that he wanted to escape, never to return, do you understand what kind of sacrifice that would take??? Do you understand that he can no longer see his family the way that he wants to, nor be in contact with them to the extent that he once was without being discovered and uncovered? Do you know how difficult it is to pull a death hoax when you are world RENOWNED entertainer and everyone knows who you are and will be looking into these things? An average everyday person would have an easier time than MJ. I say this to say that MJ can never RETURN without grevous consequences! He is not stupid enough to put himself in that type of perdicament because it would send him to prison for a very long time and then he truly would not have access to his children.
Question: Could it be that the tears that are seen in the Jackson's Family Dynasty reality show are truly real. I believe that they are real tears because MJ is either truly dead or he is not coming back and can no longer communicate with his siblings as he once did. Either way it hurts. What you must realize is that the family is in pain and no one on here seems to care about that. To escape and hoax your death never to return may as well BE a real death to your family members. Why can't people see that? Why don't people want to see that?? Perhaps only one or two family members no and the rest don't or maybe NONE of them know the truth if their is a hoax.
Question: If they do all know of some elaborate hoax...How would you feel if your loved one made a choice where you would never be able to see them again? Yes, he was the master of disguise in life but he is still going to have to keep an extrememly low profile.
The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
Finally: Maybe he is really and truly no longer with us.... I have read some people's thoughts who say, "I am getting sad again when I saw them go to Forest Lawn". Or, "I feel sick again because maybe he is really gone". Why do you guys put yourselves through this??? :?: This is just way too much emotion for a person that you did not know personally. I love MJ too but it's not that serious and there comes a time where we have to let things go and have a peace and a serenty about the outcome. Whether he is here or not here at all, he is in a good place and we should be as well. Michael Jackson is and was MORTAL, he can die, he can cease to exist and everything is NOT a clue. Some things are what we want them to be or what we want to see them become.
Last Question: Why do we need him to be alive? Why do we need him to come back?? I am totally ok with him not being here any longer and I am totally ok if he is alive and we never see him again. How selfish would it be for ME to need him to be here?? How selfish would it be for ME to need him to reappear and wait on him like the return of Jesus Christ when I have "the real thing"?? Some of you are going to be waiting for the rest of your life because he is not coming back even if he is alive. I guess people will never let go, if that's what they need to keep them going than hey, so be it.
Just somethings to think about. ;)
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People will believe what they want to believe.
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After nearly 7 months I can not believe that people are still falsely accusing the family of faking their emotions when they are obviously in deep pain. I don't understand why I am still seeing posts about folks in the family being ACTORS, about family members lying and about Mother Jackson possibly pretending to be sad and putting on a show. That is absolutely ridiculous! She would never do such a thing because she is not an actress so people who believe that she would really need to look at things from a logical perspective.
The Hoax: If Michael decided that he wanted to escape, never to return, do you understand what kind of sacrifice that would take??? Do you understand that he can no longer see his family the way that he wants to, nor be in contact with them to the extent that he once was without being discovered and uncovered? Do you know how difficult it is to pull a death hoax when you are world RENOWNED entertainer and everyone knows who you are and will be looking into these things? An average everyday person would have an easier time than MJ. I say this to say that MJ can never RETURN without grevous consequences! He is not stupid enough to put himself in that type of perdicament because it would send him to prison for a very long time and then he truly would not have access to his children.
Question: Could it be that the tears that are seen in the Jackson's Family Dynasty reality show are truly real. I believe that they are real tears because MJ is either truly dead or he is not coming back and can no longer communicate with his siblings as he once did. Either way it hurts. What you must realize is that the family is in pain and no one on here seems to care about that. To escape and hoax your death never to return may as well BE a real death to your family members. Why can't people see that? Why don't people want to see that?? Perhaps only one or two family members no and the rest don't or maybe NONE of them know the truth if their is a hoax.
Question: If they do all know of some elaborate hoax...How would you feel if your loved one made a choice where you would never be able to see them again? Yes, he was the master of disguise in life but he is still going to have to keep an extrememly low profile.
The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
Finally: Maybe he is really and truly no longer with us.... I have read some people's thoughts who say, "I am getting sad again when I saw them go to Forest Lawn". Or, "I feel sick again because maybe he is really gone". Why do you guys put yourselves through this??? :?: This is just way too much emotion for a person that you did not know personally. I love MJ too but it's not that serious and there comes a time where we have to let things go and have a peace and a serenty about the outcome. Whether he is here or not here at all, he is in a good place and we should be as well. Michael Jackson is and was MORTAL, he can die, he can cease to exist and everything is NOT a clue. Some things are what we want them to be or what we want to see them become.
Last Question: Why do we need him to be alive? Why do we need him to come back?? I am totally ok with him not being here any longer and I am totally ok if he is alive and we never see him again. How selfish would it be for ME to need him to be here?? How selfish would it be for ME to need him to reappear and wait on him like the return of Jesus Christ when I have "the real thing"?? Some of you are going to be waiting for the rest of your life because he is not coming back even if he is alive. I guess people will never let go, if that's what they need to keep them going than hey, so be it.
Just somethings to think about. ;)
Well, that's ur opinion...
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Yes, that's my opinion, can you address any of it because I am open to being refuted. I would like some intellectual, non emotional or defensive responses to the thoughts above.
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hmmm, I agree with you on some points, Things are as we want them to be. As to Michael changing his sex, I think that's ridiculous but of course everbody has their own opinion. I also agree that it's a little selfish wanting him to come back just to be able to tell your friends: Told Ya! But it isn't quite it. His 'death' hurts so much not only because it was so sudden but because he was so good and innocent a person. a role model to many, and exaggerated or not a sense of life to many, and it hurts cos we never got the chance to say goodbye to thank him for what he's done. It hurts that he was so lonely, that his 'death ' was so pointless. Being on this site helps ppl to deal with the emptiness.
I'm and we'll be a hoax beliver, I can't take it the other way around, As long as I beLIEve I'm safe.
Peace
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The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
OK this is really BS!
And you're the one who's talking about insensitivity?? :shock:
Michael is a MAN! Why on earth would he want to live as a woman?
Please stop acting like he's a alien! :x
You know he's insecure of his looks and that's probably the main reason he got the surgeries.
And his skincolor is the result of the awfull disease vitiligo.
Man, this kind of posts can piss me off! :x
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if mike just wanted a quite life, post 2005/6 he largely had it, he was travelling, he was living in Ireland he was doing music with various other musicans, he was spending, he was with his children, he could have retired, moved into a different field, brought out a new CD, done a Lego thriller PS3 game (please someone do this) but why fake to so what you could do anyway?
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hmmm, I agree with you on some points, Things are as we want them to be. As to Michael changing his sex, I think that's ridiculous but of course everbody has their own opinion. I also agree that it's a little selfish wanting him to come back just to be able to tell your friends: Told Ya! But it isn't quite it. His 'death' hurts so much not only because it was so sudden but because he was so good an innocent a person. Role model to many, and exaggerated or not a sense of life to many, and it hurts cos we never got the chance to say goodbye to thank him foro what he's done. It hurts that he was so lonely, that his 'death ' was so pointless. Being ont his site helps ppl to deal with the emptiness.
I'm and we'll be a hoax beliver, I can't take it the other way around, As long as I beLIEve I'm safe.
Peace
Nooooooo, I did not say that MJ changed or would change his sex, I had thought about him appearing and dressing in a feminine manner as he did in the full Arab/Muslim female garb. We really don't know how innocenthe was. I really don't think MJ was that innocent but I do think he was very kind. I think the innocent portion was part of his public persona, he was too successful as a businessman to be innocent. Your point is well taken.
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The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
OK this is really BS!
And you're the one who's talking about insensitivity?? :shock:
Michael is a MAN! Why on earth would he want to live as a woman?
Please stop acting like he's a alien! :x
You know he's insecure of his looks and that's probably the main reason he got the surgeries.
And his skincolor is the result of the awfull disease vitiligo.
Man, this kind of posts can piss me off! :x
Yes please this is so wrong, please dont he had a medical condition, that's it, he had to live that out in public and he did a great job for those who suffer from this condition, please dont demean him.
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The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
OK this is really BS!
And you're the one who's talking about insensitivity?? :shock:
Michael is a MAN! Why on earth would he want to live as a woman?
Please stop acting like he's a alien! :x
You know he's insecure of his looks and that's probably the main reason he got the surgeries.
And his skincolor is the result of the awfull disease vitiligo.
Man, this kind of posts can piss me off! :x
Yes please this is so wrong, please dont he had a medical condition, that's it, he had to live that out in public and he did a great job for those who suffer from this condition, please dont demean him.
Maybe he didn't. Maybe it was PART of the PLAN!
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After nearly 7 months I can not believe that people are still falsely accusing the family of faking their emotions when they are obviously in deep pain. I don't understand why I am still seeing posts about folks in the family being ACTORS, about family members lying and about Mother Jackson possibly pretending to be sad and putting on a show. That is absolutely ridiculous! She would never do such a thing because she is not an actress so people who believe that she would really need to look at things from a logical perspective.
The Hoax: If Michael decided that he wanted to escape, never to return, do you understand what kind of sacrifice that would take??? Do you understand that he can no longer see his family the way that he wants to, nor be in contact with them to the extent that he once was without being discovered and uncovered? Do you know how difficult it is to pull a death hoax when you are world RENOWNED entertainer and everyone knows who you are and will be looking into these things? An average everyday person would have an easier time than MJ. I say this to say that MJ can never RETURN without grevous consequences! He is not stupid enough to put himself in that type of perdicament because it would send him to prison for a very long time and then he truly would not have access to his children.
Question: Could it be that the tears that are seen in the Jackson's Family Dynasty reality show are truly real. I believe that they are real tears because MJ is either truly dead or he is not coming back and can no longer communicate with his siblings as he once did. Either way it hurts. What you must realize is that the family is in pain and no one on here seems to care about that. To escape and hoax your death never to return may as well BE a real death to your family members. Why can't people see that? Why don't people want to see that?? Perhaps only one or two family members no and the rest don't or maybe NONE of them know the truth if their is a hoax.
Question: If they do all know of some elaborate hoax...How would you feel if your loved one made a choice where you would never be able to see them again? Yes, he was the master of disguise in life but he is still going to have to keep an extrememly low profile.
The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
Finally: Maybe he is really and truly no longer with us.... I have read some people's thoughts who say, "I am getting sad again when I saw them go to Forest Lawn". Or, "I feel sick again because maybe he is really gone". Why do you guys put yourselves through this??? :?: This is just way too much emotion for a person that you did not know personally. I love MJ too but it's not that serious and there comes a time where we have to let things go and have a peace and a serenty about the outcome. Whether he is here or not here at all, he is in a good place and we should be as well. Michael Jackson is and was MORTAL, he can die, he can cease to exist and everything is NOT a clue. Some things are what we want them to be or what we want to see them become.
Last Question: Why do we need him to be alive? Why do we need him to come back?? I am totally ok with him not being here any longer and I am totally ok if he is alive and we never see him again. How selfish would it be for ME to need him to be here?? How selfish would it be for ME to need him to reappear and wait on him like the return of Jesus Christ when I have "the real thing"?? Some of you are going to be waiting for the rest of your life because he is not coming back even if he is alive. I guess people will never let go, if that's what they need to keep them going than hey, so be it.
Just somethings to think about. ;)
Please don't take sound bites and read the whole thing.
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exactly my thought arabian nite , sometime i get upset if it isnt a hoax why he bother to come back , he was living a peace ful life .
@ truth freedom , he had vitiligo and it was so obvious ,its a terrible disease with blotches on skin and it can happen to anyone at anytime , a nd if someone suffers from it chances are very high to have another autoimmune disease , this is something not everybody can deal with
well we are humans and humans are not perfect neither do i nor you thats why God send us here to testify us , but he had attributes, family values very few people have these days
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Stop judging people. We are all dealing with this in our own way.
Im 50/50 between this being a hoax or a murder cover up.
Im on this forum to INVESTIGATE and find out the TRUTH.
I do this for MICHAEL.. to get JUSTICE for MICHAEL.
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Maybe he didn't. Maybe it was PART of the PLAN!
How can you say something like that about a man who obviously suffers from a skin disease?!
And you're saying we're the ones who are insensitive to reality....? :roll:
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exactly my thought arabian nite , sometime i get upset if it isnt a hoax why he bother to come back , he was living a peace ful life .
@ truth freedom , he had vitiligo and it was so obvious ,its a terrible disease with blotches on skin and it can happen to anyone at anytime , a nd if someone suffers from it chances are very high to have another autoimmune disease , this is something not everybody can deal with
well we are humans and humans are not perfect neither do i nor you thats why God send us here to testify us , but he had attributes, family values very few people have these days
I have written so much in my blog and all you can focus on is some disease called vitiligo??? :roll: I know what vitiligo is, I have family members who have it and I have never seen Mike with the disease and I don't want to talk about that.
No one has answered any of my questions, I posted several and this is all you can come up with??
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Maybe he didn't. Maybe it was PART of the PLAN!
How can you say something like that about a man who obviously suffers from a skin disease?!
And you're saying we're the ones who are insensitive to reality....? :roll:
PLEASE answer my questions. If you can not than leave the thread. I posted several questions please answer the questions.
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If you need any proof my dear Michael suffered from Vitiligo... then this picture says it all. :cry:
And i dont have to answer any of your questions, i do not owe you any answers. Thankyou.
I only care about Michael and finding out the truth.
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mike suffered from this condition, i have a few spots myself, but to lose pigment over the majority of your body and face must be extremely difficult to cope with, but mike did - just an amazing strong person. A credit to fellow suffers. please dont demean him, that is so cruel, please,.
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if you havent seen it doesnt mean he wasnt suffering from it but the person who deal with such people can see it clearly even if someone tries to cover it with make up .
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After nearly 7 months I can not believe that people are still falsely accusing the family of faking their emotions when they are obviously in deep pain. I don't understand why I am still seeing posts about folks in the family being ACTORS, about family members lying and about Mother Jackson possibly pretending to be sad and putting on a show. That is absolutely ridiculous! She would never do such a thing because she is not an actress so people who believe that she would really need to look at things from a logical perspective.
The Hoax: If Michael decided that he wanted to escape, never to return, do you understand what kind of sacrifice that would take??? Do you understand that he can no longer see his family the way that he wants to, nor be in contact with them to the extent that he once was without being discovered and uncovered? Do you know how difficult it is to pull a death hoax when you are world RENOWNED entertainer and everyone knows who you are and will be looking into these things? An average everyday person would have an easier time than MJ. I say this to say that MJ can never RETURN without grevous consequences! He is not stupid enough to put himself in that type of perdicament because it would send him to prison for a very long time and then he truly would not have access to his children.
Question: Could it be that the tears that are seen in the Jackson's Family Dynasty reality show are truly real. I believe that they are real tears because MJ is either truly dead or he is not coming back and can no longer communicate with his siblings as he once did. Either way it hurts. What you must realize is that the family is in pain and no one on here seems to care about that. To escape and hoax your death never to return may as well BE a real death to your family members. Why can't people see that? Why don't people want to see that?? Perhaps only one or two family members no and the rest don't or maybe NONE of them know the truth if their is a hoax.
Question: If they do all know of some elaborate hoax...How would you feel if your loved one made a choice where you would never be able to see them again? Yes, he was the master of disguise in life but he is still going to have to keep an extrememly low profile.
The Skin Color Changes/The Surgeries: Did anyone ever consider that this was all a long deliberate process to fake people out leading up to this point making it easier for him to escape. Perhaps it was all an elaborate plan that he knew would benefit him. Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
Finally: Maybe he is really and truly no longer with us.... I have read some people's thoughts who say, "I am getting sad again when I saw them go to Forest Lawn". Or, "I feel sick again because maybe he is really gone". Why do you guys put yourselves through this??? :?: This is just way too much emotion for a person that you did not know personally. I love MJ too but it's not that serious and there comes a time where we have to let things go and have a peace and a serenty about the outcome. Whether he is here or not here at all, he is in a good place and we should be as well. Michael Jackson is and was MORTAL, he can die, he can cease to exist and everything is NOT a clue. Some things are what we want them to be or what we want to see them become.
Last Question: Why do we need him to be alive? Why do we need him to come back?? I am totally ok with him not being here any longer and I am totally ok if he is alive and we never see him again. How selfish would it be for ME to need him to be here?? How selfish would it be for ME to need him to reappear and wait on him like the return of Jesus Christ when I have "the real thing"?? Some of you are going to be waiting for the rest of your life because he is not coming back even if he is alive. I guess people will never let go, if that's what they need to keep them going than hey, so be it.
Just somethings to think about. ;)
Please answer the question(s) above.
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what do you mean mmj fan?
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are you really seeking answers, why do you think we can provide the answers?
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Maybe he didn't. Maybe it was PART of the PLAN!
How can you say something like that about a man who obviously suffers from a skin disease?!
And you're saying we're the ones who are insensitive to reality....? :roll:
PLEASE answer my questions. If you can not than leave the thread. I posted several questions please answer the questions.
Well I don't have to answer anything.
You posted something and I gave my feedback on your post. :|
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No you gave feedback to one very small section I had so much more to say.
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Well, I think everyone's entitled to give partial feedback if he feels to; we don't necessarily have to answer all your question .....
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are you really seeking answers, why do you think we can provide the answers?
Because I think they are pretty simple and straightforward questions. i refuse to get into this if you can not answer them then you Can't. I am looking to discuss this topic with people that can give me intellectual reasons for some of the questions that I brought up.
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No you gave feedback to one very small section I had so much more to say.
And that's not allowed because....? :roll:
Im not gonna further this discussion....
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No you gave feedback to one very small section I had so much more to say.
And that's not allowed because....? :roll:
Im not gonna further this discussion....
Thank you. ;)
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please people lets calm it down, lets take a deep breath and start again. x
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Nobody is being insensitive. They just perceive their behavior differently. Since this is a hoax, and the wool is being pulled over eyes, we must call their behavior into question. Since, the family is apart of the hoax, we have to look at their behavior, as well as the kids. The kids have debuted and made an apearance in all this. They have all shown suspicious behavior.
Your complaint of insensitivity comes from your own personal view of this hoax. Your opinion comes from your own research and understanding, but not everyone shares you view. So don't complain just because people don't believe as you do and accuse them of being insensitive.
You are being arrogant and insensitive. Quit judging others. Think about that before you make these kinds of post.
Stop trying to pick fights! I see right through you.
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No one is trying to pick a fight. I am going to leave this.....until I can get someone who can dialogue with me without name calling and who can provide concise answers and reasons so that I can better understand.
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Shamone now
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No one is trying to pick a fight. I am going to leave this.....until I can get someone who can dialogue with me without name calling and who can provide concise answers and reasons so that I can better understand.
Yes, you should stop. I see right through you. You are trying to raise chaos. You addressed this whole broad rudely, calling everyone insensitive. I guess you weren't ready for a heated response from such cold hearted people.
Anyways, how could anyone respond intelligently to your tabloid theories? Waste of time and energy. Why do people have to explain to you that the sky is blue?
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Nobody is being insensitive. They just perceive their behavior differently. Since this is a hoax, and the wool is being pulled over eyes, we must call their behavior into question. Since, the family is apart of the hoax, we have to look at their behavior, as well as the kids. The kids have debuted and made an apearance in all this. They have all shown suspicious behavior.
Your complaint of insensitivity comes from your own personal view of this hoax. Your opinion comes from your own research and understanding, but not everyone shares you view. So don't complain just because people don't believe as you do and accuse them of being insensitive.
You are being arrogant and insensitive. Quit judging others. Think about that before you make these kinds of post.
Stop trying to pick fights! I see right through you.
Thanks for this! :D
I got kinda pissed off when I read his/her post and I had to temper my anger so no way I could said it as well as you did LOL. Props!
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Suicide is a very painful way to end things..... :cry:
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@Truth-Freedom.
I am not saying Michael is still alive, i am here because i know there is something not right in the story we are being told.
I know Michael may be dead. If he is, then there are many people lying about Michael and what happened on that night of June 25th.
I am also unsure about how much the family really did have Michaels back. Was Jermaine really his backbone? Or did they all rely on MJ for their paychecks? I just dont know at the moment.
I try hard not to judge anyone until i know the truth. And we are very far from the truth at the moment.
If Michael is dead then this is a murder cover up. And i am here to investigate the truth. I think many of us on here are.
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Maybe he experimented with his face and how far he could go so that he could escape and live life as a woman. Who knows?
Wow! :|
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Suicide is a very painful way to end things..... :cry:
Don't kill yourself over a thread. It's not worth it! Maybe you should take a time-out from all this.
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Suicide is a very painful way to end things..... :cry:
Okay let's all calm down here for a minute... I can see you want answers regarding your LOOONNNNG post, but you can't expect people answering all your questions.. And you can't expect people write LOOONNNg post back to you... So i think we should leave it here.. Oki...
There is no need to be rude and i'm not saying you are the only one being rude in here, but it's not the time to be harsh.. Let us take a minute and breathe... RELAX TRUTH_FREEDOM AND RELAX PEOPLE... All you need to do is STOP answering his or her questions... It's simple...
Peace and love to all
Goodnight
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Truth_Freedom » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:12 pm
Suicide is a very painful way to end things.....
Uhhhhhh!!!!.....HOLD UP! What do you mean!
Suicide is not worth it! Trust me! :(
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Truth_Freedom » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:12 pm
Suicide is a very painful way to end things.....
Uhhhhhh!!!!.....HOLD UP! What do you mean!
Suicide is not worth it! Trust me! :(
I think he is referring to the fact Michael may have committed suicide.
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It's not worth it!
Don't do anything like that!
I know all of this can be frustrating but it is not worth your soul or eternal life for a forum, post, commit or anything. chill, ok! If you gotta get off and come back later or in a few days do so but don't take your life over something like this! Seriously!!! :(
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Okay,
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well, I was just wondering...concerned there.
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well i can agree with a few of your points.
with refrence to the hoax, yes we all know that this is going to be hard for mike to pull this off, it will have deep emotional and psychological effects on him, we dont know where he is living or how he is hidden so yes given the circumstances it is going to be really hard. but i do think tht he is in touch with his family, i doubt that the familis phone lines are tapped, they may have video confrenceing, as we all know mike was no technology novice, so i think although he isnt seeing the family in person, but i think that he is in constant contact.
also it depends on the circumstnaces of this hoax as to if he will face any charges, there are theories that he was forced into hiding... he could be in witness protection... he could have govt help with this.. we dont know all the answers to this.
i havent seent he jackson show so i cannot comment on that.
mike when he wants to be can lay low, he was in ireland and tbh i live in ireland and i didnt even know that !. the irish media didnt hound him, they just covered his arrival and nothing else, he led a normal life over here.
the skin colour thing is a wee bit too harsh, he had a condition which can turn a black person white, mike would never do that, he wouldnt intentionally change his colour.
yea we know that none of us knew mike personally but that doesnt mean that we cannot grieve over the loss of this icon. when he died, i was severely in denial, i cried over the memorial, i cried when i listened to man in the mirror. i wasnt in floods of tears but they got to me. you dont have to know a person personally to have the right to grive over their "death".
do we need him alive? yes we do need him alive, if mike hoaxed this, the world will look for answers, mike obviously did this for a reason, i dont believe in the NWO / illuminati stuff, but they whole message of This is it was LOVE, mike wanted to heal the world, he believed in the 2012 theory, he wanted us, his fans to take notice and act on what he was warning us about.
and how do you know he isnt going to come back?
so some of your "blog" seems a bit harsh and a bit of a rant, which really you seem to make an arguement without any proof to back-up what you are trying to say. i read it i dont give much weight to it, but as someone else said. people will believe what they want to believe.
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Ive reported this to the mods. Im a bit concerned that this member appears to have made reference to suicide and now gone offline.
I am unclear whether he was referring to himself or to Michael committing suicide but i have reported it anyways.
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if he made refrence to suidcide as referring to himself, and if it is over this topic, but im sorry this member seems to be a bit immature and childish to say that over not getting answers.
sorry but it has to be said
but if it is with refrence to mike,i think its always a possibility but i find it hugely difficult to take it in. and i take back the previous paragraph
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well i can agree with a few of your points.
with refrence to the hoax, yes we all know that this is going to be hard for mike to pull this off, it will have deep emotional and psychological effects on him, we dont know where he is living or how he is hidden so yes given the circumstances it is going to be really hard. but i do think tht he is in touch with his family, i doubt that the familis phone lines are tapped, they may have video confrenceing, as we all know mike was no technology novice, so i think although he isnt seeing the family in person, but i think that he is in constant contact.
also it depends on the circumstnaces of this hoax as to if he will face any charges, there are theories that he was forced into hiding... he could be in witness protection... he could have govt help with this.. we dont know all the answers to this.
i havent seent he jackson show so i cannot comment on that.
mike when he wants to be can lay low, he was in ireland and tbh i live in ireland and i didnt even know that !. the irish media didnt hound him, they just covered his arrival and nothing else, he led a normal life over here.
the skin colour thing is a wee bit too harsh, he had a condition which can turn a black person white, mike would never do that, he wouldnt intentionally change his colour.
yea we know that none of us knew mike personally but that doesnt mean that we cannot grieve over the loss of this icon. when he died, i was severely in denial, i cried over the memorial, i cried when i listened to man in the mirror. i wasnt in floods of tears but they got to me. you dont have to know a person personally to have the right to grive over their "death".
do we need him alive? yes we do need him alive, if mike hoaxed this, the world will look for answers, mike obviously did this for a reason, i dont believe in the NWO / illuminati stuff, but they whole message of This is it was LOVE, mike wanted to heal the world, he believed in the 2012 theory, he wanted us, his fans to take notice and act on what he was warning us about.
and how do you know he isnt going to come back?
so some of your "blog" seems a bit harsh and a bit of a rant, which really you seem to make an arguement without any proof to back-up what you are trying to say. i read it i dont give much weight to it, but as someone else said. people will believe what they want to believe.
Thank you! :D
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To be honest we care because Michael cares he did not deserve to be treated in the way he was treated with the accusations people grabing his money and using him and all the charity work he does he is an amazing person and i supppose it is hard to think of life without Michael talking singing speaking so many words of wisdom and common sense I am sure he had some faults we all do but the vitiligo was plain for everybody to see and the insecuities he had in his looks always worried me, but we are here to find the truth from all the strange things we have found out and have been shown to us ofcourse the family are upset and I donthtink anybody should be rude to them just give things time to work out I still believe Michael is alive but would not wnat him to rush back to this hard world untill he has everything sorted in his own way.
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lets be kind to each other, we all have different views, please, i know things can get hot in here, but we love mj so for his sake, love each other a little. x
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i am sure he would hate to see us fighting
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Can i also ask that members dont threaten suicide and then just ignore the issue.
know your audience... i had a friend who succeeded in her attempt two years ago and i dont appreciate these kinds of threats on forums.
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i will have a look at this thread another day or so and hopefully make an comment then, please dont think we are ignoring your points, but we may not always agree, so agree to disagree, and still be okay with that. ok x
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Can i also ask that members dont threaten suicide and then just ignore the issue.
know your audience... i had a friend who succeeded in her attempt two years ago and i dont appreciate these kinds of threats on forums.
I know what you mean. I'm truly sorry.
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every body is a bit emotionall today i hope everybody is ok
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truth freedom if your on line let us know your okay?
x
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To be honest we care because Michael cares he did not deserve to be treated in the way he was treated with the accusations people grabing his money and using him and all the charity work he does he is an amazing person and i supppose it is hard to think of life without Michael talking singing speaking so many words of wisdom and common sense I am sure he had some faults we all do but the vitiligo was plain for everybody to see and the insecuities he had in his looks always worried me, but we are here to find the truth from all the strange things we have found out and have been shown to us ofcourse the family are upset and I donthtink anybody should be rude to them just give things time to work out I still believe Michael is alive but would not wnat him to rush back to this hard world untill he has everything sorted in his own way.
Awesome :mrgreen: !
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DancingTheDream » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:42 pm
Can i also ask that members dont threaten suicide and then just ignore the issue.
know your audience... i had a friend who succeeded in her attempt two years ago and i dont appreciate these kinds of threats on forums
I agree. That's not cool at all. Nothing to joke about or ignore. :evil:
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To be honest we care because Michael cares he did not deserve to be treated in the way he was treated with the accusations people grabing his money and using him and all the charity work he does he is an amazing person and i supppose it is hard to think of life without Michael talking singing speaking so many words of wisdom and common sense I am sure he had some faults we all do but the vitiligo was plain for everybody to see and the insecuities he had in his looks always worried me, but we are here to find the truth from all the strange things we have found out and have been shown to us ofcourse the family are upset and I donthtink anybody should be rude to them just give things time to work out I still believe Michael is alive but would not wnat him to rush back to this hard world untill he has everything sorted in his own way.
Awesome :mrgreen: !
Thankyou
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Suicide is a very painful way to end things..... :cry:
Ok for real.
Teensy thank you for your perception.
Listen nothing was in this post that should cause the type of feedback that would lead someone to suicide. There were no comments that should lead someone to suicide..although I know people and everyone has a trigger.
You wanted "intelligent answers" to very emotionaly triggered statements.
Yes it would be horrific to live through this kind of thing with a family member.
No,Michael most likely will not return,because it would be near impossible to live through yet another media circus.
No,I dont think the family is the spawn of satan.Many have gone cold towards the family...though I have tried not to. Michael issued a statement against the movie "Man in the Mirror"...I have not been able to stomache the movie long enough to watch the whole thing,but his whole statement was saying that he and his brothers are "brothers" first.Blood is thicker than anything else and no matter what is going on I try and remember that.
I dont,and many dont,need Michael to come back.We need the truth. We always came out for Michael,as far as truth went. WE wil continue to do just that. If I found out where he was tomorrow I would not tell anyone...because that would just be cruel.
As far as vitiligo-there have been MANY who suffer from vitiligo to (YES)the point where they are totally white to prove that YES it does do that to some. This was when he first made it known (youtube a Geraldo episode) and afterwards there was a lovely woman on HardCopy with pictures of herself through the years and at this moment her skin looks porcelein. MJ had to fight the stories that he was trying to look like a woman and that he bleached his skin for years and he will not have to fight that from me.
I and many others contemplate that he may really be gone...that is why we are here because we want to know the truth. I and many others also do not hate on the family. "I love my father"..."I love my sister and I remember her as the loving sister she was"....I have done my research to.
Your questions cannot logically be answered the way you want them too and if you need to vent then do so on your blog.