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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 06:57:54 PM

Title: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
OK! Here is what I found on youtube, someone saw something interesting, I see somebody is behind the fountain can be anyone but ... I made a photo and if you want to see better I put the link of the video is a 0:45 sec tell me what you think?? I just want to be sure not going crazy lol its  last episode of jack5on's

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/Mikederriere-1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORR_t59h5Nk
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 19, 2010, 07:14:15 PM
Nope, you are not going crazy.....that is certainly someone sitting there. Perhaps it is Michael.....certainly seems plausible to me!!! Wahoo!!!!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Boeing727 on January 19, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
Yes there is someone there in a black one piece suit similar to that worn by Michael when he had the children round at Neverland during the Martin Bahir Interview. I suggest you downlaod this video incase YT decide to remove it.

Good find
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: susie_23 on January 19, 2010, 07:18:39 PM
Um, couldn't it just be a statue? It is getting thoroughly soaked.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
dont worry I save much ... thank you to tell me what you think sometimes I think I see him everywhere hihi :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: "susie_23"
Um, couldn't it just be a statue? It is getting thoroughly soaked.

mmm i dont think so... but it's possibility
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: TruthBeTold on January 19, 2010, 07:23:18 PM
i just zoomed on the picture, and if you do the same and look at where it leads down toward what look like feet , it is a little bit to skinny i think, so maybe just sun light breaking through the fountain spray
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 07:27:08 PM
Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
i just zoomed on the picture, and if you do the same and look at where it leads down toward what look like feet , it is a little bit to skinny i think, so maybe just sun light breaking through the fountain spray

That's what I thought at first but the more I look the more it seems to me that is really somebody that is why I asked what you think  ;)
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 19, 2010, 07:31:41 PM
It is clearly a large reflection pool with a fountain in the center. The person seated is on a bench behind the fountain and is obscured somewhat. if you look to each side and to the front of the fountain (you must view the clip at 45 sec. to see this) you will see just how large the area is. To me, it is clearly a person and that person is not getting wet----it only appears that way. It's another one of those visual (optical) illusions that leads the mind to think that person is in the fountain yet clearly is not.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 19, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
Darn it.....I just checked and rechecked the clip again and analyzed it very closely. In fact, if you compare the clothing and the design of the top it matches the outfit that Jermaine is wearing immediately after the fountain scene walking into the FL masoleum.  They probably just did a shot of him "reflecting" there. Oh darn! I was hoping it was Michael instead!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 07:52:38 PM
yes it's quite possible, but I keep hearing in my head sentence with jackson TMZ it's never what appears to be her lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: 515angel on January 19, 2010, 07:54:11 PM
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: "515angel"
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:

I see the same thing! :lol: its a great adventure! but in the end we are all crazy!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Suzi~Ses~Its~Right on January 19, 2010, 08:04:41 PM
has anyone on here got the technology to veiw frame by frame the part of the video with the fountain? trust me veiw it stil by still its a blatent cut and splice trust me .. watch the light frame by frame then look for the figure first you dont see it and as if by magic it appears dont take my word for it look yourselves !!!!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: 515angel on January 19, 2010, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: "Mel31"
Quote from: "515angel"
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:

I see the same thing! :lol: its a great adventure! but in the end we are all crazy!

I'm glad you see 'him' too...I love your signature BTW
and OP, this is a great find!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 19, 2010, 08:13:58 PM
Quote from: "515angel"
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:


OMG you are very right and I hadn't seen that originally!! Oh, this is oh so exciting yet only adds to the cryptic reasons for it. It is odd because it appears as if that figure at 43 seconds (at the entrance to  FL) as if Michael just "appears" from that hedge!!!! It clearly looks like him. To me the image looks supernatural---almost transparent except for those white socks-ha ha! I cannot see the white socks on the individual seated at the pool. However, even though the attire looks like that of Jermaine in the next immediate scene (after the fountain/reflection pool scene) I am not 100% convinced it is actually Jermaine sitting there. Perhaps it is or perhaps it is not. Perhaps the person is dressed to appear like Jermaine in the next scene????? This could be a trick or illusion of it all?!?!?!? All I can say is good job Michael. Another clue or two taken!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 08:15:30 PM
Thank you 515 angel!  :D

@Suzi~Ses~Its~Right I'll watch what you said thank you to mention I did not think  ;)
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 08:20:48 PM
OMG!!  :shock:

I get mad for sure when I read It is odd Because it appears as if that figure at 43 seconds (at the entrance to FL) as if Michael just "appears" from that hedge! " my head was calculated 43 sec 4 +3 = 7  :lol:
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: RK on January 19, 2010, 08:25:04 PM
I see that too. Great find.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on January 19, 2010, 08:28:00 PM
Great find Mel31 :shock:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on January 19, 2010, 08:54:16 PM
i got online and was checking out forest lawn and guess what i found out? michaels funeral was held at forest lawn hollywood hills but he was not buried there. according to forest lawn website he is buried at forest lawn in glendale in which these are 2 different places. so why did the brothers go to hollywood hills to visit when they should have went to glendale  :o  do they not know where he is buried or they just know that he's not buried :D
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: B-LIEves on January 19, 2010, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: "515angel"
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:

That outfit screams Michael. I see it too! There is definitely someone sitting there.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 19, 2010, 09:59:21 PM
I saw someone sitting there....with white socks!  :shock:   Maybe this is the blow your mind piece in the show, cause nothing else I saw blew my mind.

And what about the brothers going to the wrong FL?  WTH??!!  And, was it Jackie who mentioned all the nice cards and flowers.  How did they get there?  Oh yeah, KF.   :?
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: SherLynn224 on January 19, 2010, 10:14:04 PM
I am not comparing Michael to Jesus in no way but I just thought about a movie of Jesus when he says " Why do you look for the living among the dead ". Thats what Michael is saying sitting behind that fountain lol.  :lol:
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: LucyLocket on January 19, 2010, 10:20:02 PM
WOW.  

About the comments on the 2 FL locations... the footage in the video looks just like the entrance to FL (sign, hedges, trees, odd things that look like hot air balloons to the right of the trees) that I saw in footage of the funeral.  In the footage I saw before, it was when the Jackson family cars were driving into FL.  Is it possible that some of that footage was used in the reality show?  Also, the terrace area that the brothers are shown on (holding the flowers) looks like the one we've seen before where those female fans visit and bring flowers/cards from fans from around the world.  I hope some of that made sense.  

About the fountain... that it freaky.  I wonder if someone could find a photo of that fountain from another angle to see if there is a bench of some sort there.  At one point, the person looks almost transparent.  Odd for sure.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 10:37:32 PM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
i got online and was checking out forest lawn and guess what i found out? michaels funeral was held at forest lawn hollywood hills but he was not buried there. according to forest lawn website he is buried at forest lawn in glendale in which these are 2 different places. so why did the brothers go to hollywood hills to visit when they should have went to glendale  :o  do they not know where he is buried or they just know that he's not buried :D

Yes ur right it is weird! :shock: , here's the wikipedia link scroll down the page NOTE you click on the links to see the satellite view and it seems that Michael is in Glendale is where we saw September 3 were real

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Lawn_Memorial_Park_%28Hollywood_Hills%29
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 10:53:31 PM
if the fountain is it there is no chance that somebody is sitting there, why we really see someone??? :shock:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/ContentHeronFountain2.jpg)
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: topsecretgirl on January 20, 2010, 04:21:34 AM
Yes, in Glendale there is a fountain called the Heron Fountain. It has a bronze statue, that is what we are seeing throug the fountain. Sorry I can't put the pic here don't know how to. Put in google forrest lawn fountain and first topic if you clic on you can see the picture there.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on January 20, 2010, 01:15:41 PM
there is a fl hollywood hills and there is a fl glendale these are two different places they both have a heron fountain.
the one in hollywood is the one showed on the jacksons and the one in glendale is totally bronze it does not have a trace of white in it. google both of them in and you will see the difference. i will try to show you the first one will be from hollywood hills and second is from glendale
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Tay3 on January 20, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
I hate to say this guys, because I was hoping it could be Michael. If you look carefully, I really think it's Jermaine by the fountain, but only if he was wearing white socks!
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Kirsche on January 20, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: "Mel31"
OK! Here is what I found on youtube, someone saw something interesting, I see somebody is behind the fountain can be anyone but ... I made a photo and if you want to see better I put the link of the video is a 0:45 sec tell me what you think?? I just want to be sure not going crazy lol its  last episode of jack5on's

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/Mikederriere-1.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORR_t59h5Nk

Could this be one of the angels sitting there? Like the others figures?
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: SEHF on January 20, 2010, 02:21:18 PM
MJ's skinny dippin' in the fountain .. lol
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Butterfly J on January 20, 2010, 02:39:03 PM
I can see it too, someone is sitting behind the fountain and it doesn´t look like statue to me.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Kirsche on January 20, 2010, 02:42:58 PM
Quote from: "Butterfly J"
I can see it too, someone is sitting behind the fountain and it doesn´t look like statue to me.

Hm, okay, it is not a statue, right. Somebody's sitting on the bank, but it could be anyone else...I'm not sure about that....it would be wonderful if it was him...otherwise, wouldn't it be too risky to sit there on a bank without being photographed by ppl...? Or did they closed FL for the filming?
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Butterfly J on January 20, 2010, 03:05:11 PM
I think it could be somebody else but I also believe that they closed FL for filming to avoid curious strangers and maybe fans too.
Maybe this is that what should blow our mind? It does right now :D  But unfortunately we can´t be sure until we see MS´s smiling face.
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Mel31 on January 20, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
I personally do not believe that will be a statue, I truly believe that someone, I do not know if it is important May I find it strange that in the other images he did not appear to be bench for sit then there must be a reason why we see almost all the same thing?  :?
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Sabrina on January 20, 2010, 04:36:42 PM
Where do you see whites socks ?
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: DooDoo on January 20, 2010, 04:41:55 PM
Quote from: "515angel"
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:
No, Jermaine hates white socks, so it couldn't be him  ;)
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: 515angel on January 20, 2010, 07:57:57 PM
Quote from: "DooDoo"
Quote from: "515angel"
Does Jermaine wear white socks? I see the person sitting there wearing white socks!
I also see a person standing to the left of the Forest Lawn sign at 43 seconds also wearing white socks. A black open jacket, white undershirt, black pants and white socks!

Maybe we're all going crazy!  :shock:
No, Jermaine hates white socks, so it couldn't be him  ;)

i don't think the statues wear white socks either.
mel, can you pull a  still of whoever is standing by the sign, like you did the fountain?
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Sabrina on January 21, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
Everytime I see this, it makes me smile
Title: Re: Need to know what you think
Post by: Jacksonology on January 23, 2010, 05:06:36 PM
it looks like he is standing BEHIND the fountain looking toward the camera but it's too dark to tell  :x
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