Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: ThunderPower on January 20, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
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[youtube:5yrppd21]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84C6LVPlcI[/youtube:5yrppd21]
She claims that on the show, they went and visited Forest Lawn in Hollywood Hills - NOT Forest Lawn Glendale.
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she is very smart i love her videos and painogames they keep the hope alive for me :D
hahahah (including plastic hair ) lmaoooo
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SHE IS THE BEST... L.O.V.E YA GIRL.... HUG AND KISSES
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If her video is true, than I think this is a very big clue! ;)
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great as always. Thanks for that observation :)
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Thanks for the post! I just checked about 30 minutes ago and this video was not up yet! Wow, that was fast!
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Great find!!! ;)
Is there anyone from LA who noticed the same thing?
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I had a look at a map and the two memorial parks seem to be quite close together, perhaps they had to drive past one to get to the other on the same road, I tried to mark it out in this map. (I'm not from the area so I don't know, but I gave it a go ;) )
Feel free to correct me, i'm probably very wrong :lol:
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WOW! OMFG!!! :o :o
Great spot. I haven't watched the series finale as I'm in the UK and to be honest, I don't think that I could watch it - would probably make me cringe.
The 7 exits thing is kinda freaking me out! :shock:
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Someone else had mentioned the exit signs.
This really gives me hope. WOOT
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the part with thanks Jermaine even if plastic hair made me laugh loud! :lol:
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i dont get the point , does she mean that micheal is at hollywood hills not glendale ? how media lies are related to that ? they tnemselves madeus believe the whole funeral was at gendale ? i m too tired today can someone plz explain that to me
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She is still looking into that-this was a major observation and I am sure she is looking into the differant areas that it could be-there have been differant posts on her yt,and I know she adresses differant avenues in her serials so...we can wait and see or you can pm her yt ;)
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Haaaw! Yeeeha! This is a perfect for going to bed now....Because now I feel veeeery good :)
Thanks for sharing it!!! Wonderful, Wonderful, Wonderful! :D
Have a good night and see or write you tomorrow :)
HUGS!
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OK GREAT VIDEO......now I have to call Forest Lawn AGAIN!!
Give me input on what to ask.......seems fishy
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That's a great observation!!!
Sorry to get off topic here, in regards to "plastic hair", could Jermaine's hair even hold a clue? There has GOT to be some explanation for his hair being that way.
The fact that if the whole show is a dream, then Jermaine and his hair are not real. It's a psychological technique. Almost as if he's saying, "Do you guys think I would really wear my hair like this on a regular?" If we as the public accept that, then we'll pretty much accept ANYTHING, ya know? It's a mental test. I bet when they all come back together, that hair style will be different.
I hope so. :P
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I had a look at a map and the two memorial parks seem to be quite close together, perhaps they had to drive past one to get to the other on the same road, I tried to mark it out in this map. (I'm not from the area so I don't know, but I gave it a go ;) )
Feel free to correct me, i'm probably very wrong :lol:
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You are VERY CORRECT! The sign also states Victory blvd and Buena Vista St. Victory Blvd, Buena Vista St and Forest Lawn drive are all in the same area. If they? took the Forest Lawn Drive exit they would go to Hollywood Hill Forest Lawn BUT if they keep going they would pass the Victory Blvd exit and keep driving towards Glendale on the freeway,
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U guys can prolly use google maps satellite to see how it looks, its pretty accurate, I have no time to do it myself..(
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I am from Glendale city, I'll tell you the following. A few months ago I went to forest lawn in Glendale, to find Michael's grave. I found "Last Supper", I walked in the Great Mausoleum, read all names but could not find Michael. The Farest Lawn Drive is on the 134 East-West freeway, it is 10-15 min away from city of Glendale. That's my every day way to work and back. From freeway, you could not see fountain. The day of Michael's "burial", I thought ti is going to be at forest lawn drive, but surprisingly there was no traffic on freway back to home. Later I learned, it is happening 5 min away from my home, in Glendale. I remember that until last hour, it was not clear where they will "bury" Michael. And, I watched Dynasty show also, it seemed brothers went to Glendale forest lawn judging by entrance gates. But later they appeared next to Holly Terrace entrance, that it is NOT in Glendale forest Lawn. At least I did not see it. I am going to visit that Glendale lawn again and check it out.
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Guys, didn't anyone notice that the name Holly Terrace was shown on the building?
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this reminds me of JJ's tweet right after the show...something about believe what your eyes see, the media lies. Well, if we saw Hollywood Hills then we should believe it, right?!?!
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Okay, so I live in L.A. lived here all my life so I know the city and all surrounding areas. The show did show the Forrest Lawn Dr which has nothing to with the Forrest Lawn in Glendale. True, if you are driving on the 134 Freeway, which is where the Forrest Lawn sign showned on the show is located, you will past Forrest Lawn in Hollywood and if you keep going you will past Forrest Lawn in Glendale.
This makes me believe the entire show was all scripted from the beginning. The producers wanted a big ending, so they came up with this dream of Jermaine's and they used the so called death of MJ as the dramatic ending. The showing of the signs was to give it some kind of dramatic effect of "Hollywood", then the freeway sign to give us the clue that they were going to see MJ. Was it hoax clue? I don't know, because the mossoleum they showed and the buildings they showed are located at the Glendale Forrest Lawn.
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Yes her video about them going to Forest Lawn is very good. She did prove that they went to the Forest Lawn cemetary in Hollywood instead of Glendale. She showed the difference in the fountains at each Forest Lawn. The one in Hollywood is the fountain that they showed on the Jackson Family dynasty and the one in Glendale has a little fountain with a pond around it which was not the one seen on the show. The funeral Homes look totally differnt too. I watched the clip of Dave Dave on Larry King on youtube and they actually showed the herse when it pulled into Glendale which look totally different. Now the place the Jacksons went to does look like the one for the funeral but obviously they lied about the location. It was Hollywood not Glendale.
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This could depend however on when the episode was filmed, Michael was first in a temporary mortuary at Hollywood Hills from 7/7, but was then moved to Glendale for "burial" in september (i think it was) :?
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ow..great video!thanks
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Maybe this was part of the blowing your mind thing. Thanks maura!! It's time for us to have a big clue again! :)
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Has part 32 been posted yet...its further into it... :D
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i m getting confuse by all this , how everything correlated with hoax , i mean ok they lie about mj resting place .buty why then? why would media lie they show the funeal at gleneremony the whole c eremony took place their , what media has to do with that ,can someone explain that to me had a bad day today cant think more
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I noticed the "Hollwood - Next 7 exits" sign right away and posted it on the thread about the show the next day but no one took to it.
Also,,,IF and thats a big IF...MJ is dead, then Im guessing he would be at the Hollywood Forest Lawn and not Glendale? Am I losing my mind here? Why would the bros go to the WRONG ass cemetary? If this is suppose to be a real "death" then they should have gone to Glendale!! Duh!
WTF is going on man? LOLOL
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She explained further in part 32...love it :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVFGpHgsUWE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVFGpHgsUWE)
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ok iatch that one but still how is it related to hoax/?? i mean what i understand is the jackson family lied to us like i said i m tottaly exhaust today cant think hard
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ok iatch that one but still how is it related to hoax/?? i mean what i understand is the jackson family lied to us like i said i m tottaly exhaust today cant think hard
I think that the Jackson gave us a big clue, that this is a hoax! This was the mind blowing surprise. They did it on purpose they went to the wrong cemetery because it is FACT, that MJ is "buried" at FL Glendale and NOT Hollywood Hills....And remember the statement of the Jacksons: The media lies just believe what your eyes see ( or something like that)
That is very obvious
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I am from Glendale city, I'll tell you the following. A few months ago I went to forest lawn in Glendale, to find Michael's grave. I found "Last Supper", I walked in the Great Mausoleum, read all names but could not find Michael. The Farest Lawn Drive is on the 134 East-West freeway, it is 10-15 min away from city of Glendale. That's my every day way to work and back. From freeway, you could not see fountain. The day of Michael's "burial", I thought ti is going to be at forest lawn drive, but surprisingly there was no traffic on freway back to home. Later I learned, it is happening 5 min away from my home, in Glendale. I remember that until last hour, it was not clear where they will "bury" Michael. And, I watched Dynasty show also, it seemed brothers went to Glendale forest lawn judging by entrance gates. But later they appeared next to Holly Terrace entrance, that it is NOT in Glendale forest Lawn. At least I did not see it. I am going to visit that Glendale lawn again and check it out.
That would be great look forward to what you find out
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Her videos are so great always look forward to them hold on to your hats again here we go.
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http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m287 ... FL-1-1.jpg (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m287/blueabbie/FL-1-1.jpg)
I am not for or against Maura and I'm trying to be objective here but if you notice both FL parks the one in HH and the one in Glendale are very close to each other. Also, if the Jackson's were coming from the Encino area they would have had to come through the 134 freeway and pass the HH forrest Lawn before getting to the one in Glendale. So all the signs pointed out in the video are correct but it doesn't necessarily mean they entered the first FL.
Maura also points out the sign stating Forrest Lawn drive? This is an exit to the Hollywood hills FL but if you notice on the map the 134 freeway keeps going and connects with the 5 and the 2 freeways. We never saw which exit they took at least I don't think they showed. Another thing Maura is wrong about the Hollywood Hills FL is not really in "Hollywood", actually the Glendale FL is closer to Hollywood than the HH is. So if they show a sign stating Hollywood 7 exits away it sounds right about correct from Glendale.
I am not pointing this out to discourage anyone. I believe with all my heart Michael is ALIVE and his family is obviously hiding the truth. But it is very easy to get our emotions mixed and our hopes way up over "clues" which may be non existent. If you decide to google or mapquest the parks and you zoom in you'll also notice that Forrest lawn drive actually connects with or around the Glendale entrance park. (BTW I have family and friends buried in both parks)
I am very sorry if I upset anyone with this information but I am just trying to look out for everyone. I have been there and It is very disappointing when you have followed a "lead" just to find out it may not be anything at all. We can't take information at face value just because it comes from Maura and because it looks and sounds good. We have our own minds and can do research for our selves! And I do believe Michael is ALIVE!!!
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@Bannessa-what do you think about the water fountain comparison?
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so every single person at the funeral knows he fake his death ?
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@Bannessa-what do you think about the water fountain comparison?
@Bannessa I would also really like to know your opinion about this. Thanks.
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I love her vids...she has a great balance between thoery and facts to support the hoax...it was her vids that made me a beLIEver...i mean I always suspected it, but she really confirmed it :D :D :D
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I am from Glendale city, I'll tell you the following. A few months ago I went to forest lawn in Glendale, to find Michael's grave. I found "Last Supper", I walked in the Great Mausoleum, read all names but could not find Michael. The Farest Lawn Drive is on the 134 East-West freeway, it is 10-15 min away from city of Glendale. That's my every day way to work and back. From freeway, you could not see fountain. The day of Michael's "burial", I thought ti is going to be at forest lawn drive, but surprisingly there was no traffic on freway back to home. Later I learned, it is happening 5 min away from my home, in Glendale. I remember that until last hour, it was not clear where they will "bury" Michael. And, I watched Dynasty show also, it seemed brothers went to Glendale forest lawn judging by entrance gates. But later they appeared next to Holly Terrace entrance, that it is NOT in Glendale forest Lawn. At least I did not see it. I am going to visit that Glendale lawn again and check it out.
Wow - I can't wait to see what you find out next time you visit. Thanks!
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Ok, so the cemeteries are close to each other? Man, i was so happy yesterday about this clue. I really feel like, though, showing those signs that they were making it out like they were going to Hollywood. And jermaine telling us that there would be a mind blowing surprise... he was basically telling us there would be a big clue and a secret ending. I think I'm going to keep believing this clue for now.
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http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m287/blueabbie/FL-1-1.jpg
I am not for or against Maura and I'm trying to be objective here but if you notice both FL parks the one in HH and the one in Glendale are very close to each other. Also, if the Jackson's were coming from the Encino area they would have had to come through the 134 freeway and pass the HH forrest Lawn before getting to the one in Glendale. So all the signs pointed out in the video are correct but it doesn't necessarily mean they entered the first FL.
Maura also points out the sign stating Forrest Lawn drive? This is an exit to the Hollywood hills FL but if you notice on the map the 134 freeway keeps going and connects with the 5 and the 2 freeways. We never saw which exit they took at least I don't think they showed. Another thing Maura is wrong about the Hollywood Hills FL is not really in "Hollywood", actually the Glendale FL is closer to Hollywood than the HH is. So if they show a sign stating Hollywood 7 exits away it sounds right about correct from Glendale.
Banessa, you are correct in your assessment. I was just going down the same freeway as the Jacksons did just 3 weeks ago! I'm sorry and nothing against Maura, but I have to disagree with this particular video. I think I might try to put together some maps and
pics from both Forest Lawn cemeteries.
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People can try to spin things any which way they want to, but I know exactly where she was going with this and I don't believe that she was trying to mislead anybody.
This girl is pretty brilliant with what she does and i'm glad that people are able to open their eyes to this more objectively because of her way of looking at things.
We don't need to be "lead" by anyone, but some people are just better at pointing things out than others are.
Like previous people asked, "what about the fountains?" Explain that please.
People that are trying to get all techish and debunk her work, explain why they show the wrong fountains?
I don't live in Glendale or Hollywood, but I've been to both Forest Lawns because I was an art student. The Glendale Forest lawn was shown, she never said that it wasn't.
But they were certainly trying to throw people off and indirectly mislead people. Any idiot can see that.
Maura, if you read this forum anymore, I totally caught your drift and understand where you were going with this. You're smart and never claim that any of your information is more than speculation. I respect you and you really need to keep doing what you are doing. You have tons of support :).
I'm not trying to disrespect anybody else, but this should not be converted into something that it isn't. I think most of us got the message ;)
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But what about the water fountain? The one where Jacksons went is the fountain in the Hollywood Hills FL, right? I'm so confused :?
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Ok guys,
The fountains are really what interest me. So I was wondering why no one used the google street view to see how they looked from the- well street view :) . So I decided I would try my hand and see what I came up with.
Now in the show, this is what the fountain looked like:
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Now this is what the fountain @ HH looks like from the street, I'm assuming what you would see if you were driving by...:
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You can see my little orange man standing at the entrance in the map below the pic. Now, in doing your own search you can adjust the man along the perimeter of the grounds to follow the view of the fountain, but one thing will stay the same...the fence with always be there. The only way to get a clear view of the fountain without the fence is from driving through the gates and actually looking @ it from inside the compound.
This is what the fountain @ Glendale looks like:
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As you can see, the fence is still there
So if the brothers were just driving past HH to get to Glendale, they would not have had the clear unobstructed view of either fountain as was shown in the show, they would have had to enter the property to get such a view. So then, why would they drive into FLHH, capture this fountain, drive back out and head to Glendale? :|
I have included this final map so that you can see where both FL's are in relation to each other. See the bottom section:
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As you can see my little orange man is standing over by the HH FL looking @ the fountain over there, the "A" to the left of the map is where the Glendale FL is located.
Some may argue that the Jackson's Twittering is really to indicate that he really is buried @ HH, but for security reasons they allow the public to believe that he is @ Glandale. Since i do not believe that he is dead then naturally I do not agree with that argument.
What do you guys think?
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I also do not agree with that arguement.
Because Everyone know, that there's a high security level, so that only Family members could enter the mausoleum....so why tell the people that he's at glendale but in reality he's a HH? Nobody could get in there so I think there's no reason the tell them he's at Glendale but actually he at HH
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Great research pyt777, I think you have proven a lot of points. Would they include the HH fountain because it look pretty? It dosent make any sence actually...
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Taken from the HH's site
The funeral for superstar Michael Jackson took place at the Hall of Liberty, on July 7th, 2009. But he was buried permanently at Forest Lawn Glendale (not here at Forest? Lawn Hollywood Hills)
So the Dynasty show focused on the fountain at HH and then the Holly Terrace in Glendale.
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Taken from the HH's site
The funeral for superstar Michael Jackson took place at the Hall of Liberty, on July 7th, 2009. But he was buried permanently at Forest Lawn Glendale (not here at Forest? Lawn Hollywood Hills)
So the Dynasty show focused on the fountain at HH and then the Holly Terrace in Glendale.
hm
I tried the Burial Locator and there was no Michael Joe or Michael Joseph or Michael Jackson buried, in none ot the FL-Parks