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Title: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF on January 20, 2010, 04:24:00 PM
I just ran across this photo and it just made me stop cold when I looked at his eyes and features from mouth up.
I now wonder if this could this be the photo or very similar to the one used in the ambulance photo on 06/25?
If so,this is from the Dangerous era and alot of people have stated they believe it to be a younger looking MJ in that photo,which I agree.
I just wanted to submit it for your opinions.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 20, 2010, 04:27:43 PM
yes i think that the "last photograph" was shot earlier in 1995 or so when he was taken in in New York.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: dirtydiana2009 on January 20, 2010, 04:28:16 PM
It does look a lot like it. Anything is possible!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Cameron on January 20, 2010, 04:59:35 PM
Oh ! Yeah you're right, his face is like the one in the ambulance's photo. Good job  :o
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 21, 2010, 08:20:04 AM
isn't it terrible the the news punters have put forward this as the last pic of mike?
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: anne.mj on January 21, 2010, 09:48:47 AM
I agree. Look like ambulance photo..
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Cameron on January 21, 2010, 11:31:42 AM
And if this is the ambulance's photo:

1) MJ alive
2) This well known photo is a world famous fake
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: KINGdom52 on January 21, 2010, 12:54:32 PM
It could be !
We can do great things with photoshop , imagine a pro photographer! ;)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: angelshadow on January 21, 2010, 01:02:32 PM
Very good, this is the 1st Picture where I'm saying it can be.
With a little Photoshop ........ yes good find!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: SeeingClues on January 21, 2010, 01:12:32 PM
[attachment=0:uk7faesh]ambulancephotocomparison.JPG[/attachment:uk7faesh]
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: angelshadow on January 21, 2010, 01:13:41 PM
I must say that it can be  ;)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Mel31 on January 21, 2010, 01:36:56 PM
mmm its really like him more than all the others before me! I did a quick editing with photoshop to compare in another angle

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/comparaisonambulance.jpg)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: angelshadow on January 21, 2010, 01:41:24 PM
it resembles very  :!:
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Mystery_86 on January 21, 2010, 01:49:39 PM
it is amazing how similar these two photos are ..... :shock:
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 21, 2010, 02:45:08 PM
It looks like the ambulance pic, but to be honest I don't think this is the one.
I can see differences, for example the corner of his mouth, his eyebrows, the angle of the face, and his face expression.
He looks happy and relaxed in the baby pic, but not in the amulance pic.
Just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 21, 2010, 03:02:33 PM
Only problem is the hat and the hair hanging down...
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Mystery_86 on January 21, 2010, 03:11:56 PM
They obviously had to change it a bit with photoshop ;) It cannot be identical.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: jonnysgirldangerous on January 21, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
Some things I can see in the comparisson of the two pictures: The knee of the paramedic is almost in the same place where the hat is in the other picture, so they would just had to photoshop a little part of the forehead, and in one picture there's his hair falling close to his eyebrow and in the other in almost the exact same place is a red line of the red car reflection. Sooo it could be the same picture IMO.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF on January 21, 2010, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: "SeeingClues"
[attachment=0:3akp1r8z]ambulancephotocomparison.JPG[/attachment:3akp1r8z]


Thanks so much SeeingClues for helping and posting that pic to compare..much appreciated!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF on January 21, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
I agree with all thoughts here.
I wish I could find one from that photo shoot without his curl hanging down and having his head tilted a little more.
I think I will go look through that time period for pics just for something to do.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF on January 21, 2010, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: "Mel31"
mmm its really like him more than all the others before me! I did a quick editing with photoshop to compare in another angle

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/comparaisonambulance.jpg)

Thanks Mel31...great work!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 21, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
you did it, always thought it was around this period.

you did it
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: whisper on January 21, 2010, 04:04:55 PM
everthing almost looks the same but what about the ear?
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: TinkerbellLovesMJ on January 21, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
Wow it does look like it could be with some photoshop help. Great find MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 21, 2010, 04:07:41 PM
but you know he went to hospital about the time of the dangerous tour, when he was breaking up with LMP and he cancelled the New York show, so there must be photographs see my thread, but i could not find photos.
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2239 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2239)
but the professional photographers have them and their the ones who would have shopped the photo
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 21, 2010, 04:11:06 PM
i am so glad that you sorted this out, now i feel there are two firm things that i can believe in, this and the helicopter.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 21, 2010, 04:21:13 PM
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1972 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1972)

what about the dangerous era photo on this thread no hat on? and his ear is a little pointy on the photo
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 21, 2010, 04:43:01 PM
see this
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: hope on January 21, 2010, 05:21:02 PM
Quote from: "MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF"
Quote from: "Mel31"
mmm its really like him more than all the others before me! I did a quick editing with photoshop to compare in another angle

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/comparaisonambulance.jpg)

Thanks Mel31...great work!
I agree...GREAT WORK. I dont know how to draw the lines so I'll try it this way. if you look at his neck where the 2 strands of hair are, then look at the amb.pic, you can see the faint black hair lines where they have lightened it. Then look at the front of the  paramedics knee and you can still the faint rim of the hat. On th eright side where his hair is, they have covered it with the yellow speckles and the air thing and the paramedics hand cover the rest of where the hair is. The noses are identical. The only thing they had left to photoshop on him is the forehead hairline and the ear. They just blurred the pic. JMO
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: jonnysgirldangerous on January 21, 2010, 06:23:15 PM
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF"
Quote from: "Mel31"
mmm its really like him more than all the others before me! I did a quick editing with photoshop to compare in another angle

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/veuliah/comparaisonambulance.jpg)

Thanks Mel31...great work!
I agree...GREAT WORK. I dont know how to draw the lines so I'll try it this way. if you look at his neck where the 2 strands of hair are, then look at the amb.pic, you can see the faint black hair lines where they have lightened it. Then look at the front of the  paramedics knee and you can still the faint rim of the hat. On th eright side where his hair is, they have covered it with the yellow speckles and the air thing and the paramedics hand cover the rest of where the hair is. The noses are identical. The only thing they had left to photoshop on him is the forehead hairline and the ear. They just blurred the pic. JMO

You're soo right, and I think the try to photoshop away his curl and it didn't look that good, so the put the car's reflection to cover and that people wouldn't notice the difference.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kuki on January 22, 2010, 06:37:26 AM
We already knew the ambu pic is a fake one. I don't think you will ever find the pic that was used, every pic will look like it, just because it IS Michael. But honestly, don't you think he would have used a familiar picture to create the ambu pic? IMO they would have used one which wasnt published, so nobody would have recognised it. There must be so many pics of him we have never seen, probably they used one of those.

Just my opinion, okay?!  ;)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 22, 2010, 06:38:13 AM
I don't want to upset anyone, but I think we can compare almost every picture of Michael with the ambulance picture. We will always see similarities. Why? Because it's Michael. I think we will never know what pic they used for the ambulance pic, or maybe he posed in the ambulance...
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 22, 2010, 06:39:32 AM
Quote from: "Kuki"
We already knew the ambu pic is a fake one. I don't think you will ever find the pic that was used, every pic will look like it, just because it IS Michael. But honestly, don't you think he would have used a familiar picture to create the ambu pic? IMO they would have used one which wasnt published, so nobody would have recognised it. There must be so many pics of him we have never seen, probably they used one of those.

Just my opinion, okay?!  ;)

 :lol:  Are you sure you're not my twin sister?
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kuki on January 22, 2010, 06:42:18 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Kuki"
We already knew the ambu pic is a fake one. I don't think you will ever find the pic that was used, every pic will look like it, just because it IS Michael. But honestly, don't you think he would have used a familiar picture to create the ambu pic? IMO they would have used one which wasnt published, so nobody would have recognised it. There must be so many pics of him we have never seen, probably they used one of those.

Just my opinion, okay?!  ;)

 :lol:  Are you sure you're not my twin sister?

your evil twin sister  :lol:
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 22, 2010, 06:46:32 AM
Quote from: "Kuki"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Kuki"
We already knew the ambu pic is a fake one. I don't think you will ever find the pic that was used, every pic will look like it, just because it IS Michael. But honestly, don't you think he would have used a familiar picture to create the ambu pic? IMO they would have used one which wasnt published, so nobody would have recognised it. There must be so many pics of him we have never seen, probably they used one of those.

Just my opinion, okay?!  ;)

 :lol:  Are you sure you're not my twin sister?

your evil twin sister  :lol:

 :twisted:  ;)
Sorry ontopic now, I just think we will never know what picture is really used. Or if he posed or something.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kuki on January 22, 2010, 06:56:01 AM
And to me it doesnt really matter!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 22, 2010, 07:06:17 AM
Quote from: "Kuki"
And to me it doesnt really matter!

Exactly, the same here  ;)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Grenat on January 22, 2010, 02:26:32 PM
Quote
We already knew the ambu pic is a fake one. I don't think you will ever find the pic that was used, every pic will look like it, just because it IS Michael. But honestly, don't you think he would have used a familiar picture to create the ambu pic? IMO they would have used one which wasnt published, so nobody would have recognised it. There must be so many pics of him we have never seen, probably they used one of those.

Just my opinion, okay?!

I agree,because that would be really dangerous to use already seen picture(there are smart fan outta here that watch and look at everything and would find it  ;) )
I think either he posed especially for the picture and they edited some details to make him look younger(to raise our suspicions)that would explain Ben Evanstead's slip up as well...
Or the picture come from a never-seen one,but is older.
If an older picture is used it could be from 1997 trough 2002 maybe.
I say this because of the cheekbones and the face structure..
I may be wrong but I don't think the pic that was used is prior to Ghost...
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Ninanina on January 22, 2010, 02:32:17 PM
This pic is actually pretty close, but again the angle isn't right - and remember there are three shots we know of, all from slightly different angles.

All those similar pics prove is, that the man or mannequin in the ambulance actually looked like Michael. A young Michael.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 22, 2010, 04:18:02 PM
i understand that  the photographer was a "friend" well known to MJ.

But if one was to turn this on its head, it may prove its a fake, and many people for sport or money put fakes out there, but it does not in itself prove that he is a live - which we all hope.

i heard or read that the photographer is now studying to be a doctor but who knows.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kuki on January 23, 2010, 04:22:10 AM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
All those similar pics prove is, that the man or mannequin in the ambulance actually looked like Michael. A young Michael.

I agree. As said before, in the ambu pic he looks too young and too healthy for beeing 50 years and dead....
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: wandulka on January 23, 2010, 05:32:55 AM
Could be...it fits..
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t219/wendus92/55.jpg?t=1264246360)
Creepy huh?  :D
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kuki on January 23, 2010, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: "wandulka"
Could be...it fits..
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t219/wendus92/55.jpg?t=1264246360)
Creepy huh?  :D

That IS creepy!
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Missyb007 on January 23, 2010, 07:06:37 AM
anyone ever thought of the Ghost mask?....it could be used for the ambulance pic?

Although I really love the above comparising,
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7371/ambulancepictures.jpg)
Now everyone can see the "scary comparison" between those pictures
(also please read what I've written underneath)
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: wandulka on January 23, 2010, 07:42:53 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
anyone ever thought of the Ghost mask?....it could be used for the ambulance pic?

Although I really love the above comparising,
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7371/ambulancepictures.jpg)
Now everyone can see the "scary comparison" between those pictures
(also please read what I've written underneath)

Yeah, they're clearly different.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 23, 2010, 12:22:00 PM
if we play devils advocate here for a moment, the photographer could say that he took more than one shot on his rapid fire camera?

the pic is fake
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 23, 2010, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
if we play devils advocate here for a moment, the photographer could say that he took more than one shot on his rapid fire camera?

the pic is fake

He did.. there are three ambo pics all of slightly different angles...    taken within rapid fire camera shutter speed apart.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 02:40:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7pzQ4_ ... ature=fvwp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7pzQ4_694&NR=1&feature=fvwp)

look at this, wish i knew how to embed
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: "wandulka"
Could be...it fits..
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t219/wendus92/55.jpg?t=1264246360)
Creepy huh?  :D


hell yeah, it IS creepy!

So they could use the Ghost-Pic ( or mask) for that picture?  Never thought about that   :shock:
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: msteetee34 on January 25, 2010, 02:51:16 PM
I agree that the photo that was released of MJ in the ambulance is from the mid 90's.  History era. In the ambulance photo his face is much fuller and he does look a little darker and younger.  His nose also looks broader.  So I would say heck yeah that ambulance photo seem to be fake to me. :!: I think it is from the time he was with Lisa Marie and he went to the hospital.
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: msteetee34 on January 25, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1972

what about the dangerous era photo on this thread no hat on? and his ear is a little pointy on the photo

I don't know about his ear but I love when MJ wears his baby hair all slicked down and makes his little cute side burns. :D
Title: Re: Could this be the ambulance photo?
Post by: Kuki on January 25, 2010, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: "msteetee34"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=1972

what about the dangerous era photo on this thread no hat on? and his ear is a little pointy on the photo

I don't know about his ear but I love when MJ wears his baby hair all slicked down and makes his little cute side burns. :D

That is sooooooooooo cute!!  :D
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