Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => Updates & Posts by TS => Topic started by: TS on January 22, 2010, 01:50:18 AM
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Although this update is shorter than the last one, it’s still too long to post in the replies section of the TIAI Update #1 thread (as I had previously mentioned). In case anyone has not read TIAI Update #1 yet, here is the link for that: {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3391}.
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2-1. Outline for TIAI Update #2
2-1. Outline for TIAI Update #2
2-2. ALLJACK5ONS Tweet “Revealed” on January 18
2-3. Official Media Story of MJ Death: Impossible!
2-4. Real Murder & Fake Hoax, or Fake Murder & Real Hoax?
2-5. Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?
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2-2. ALLJACK5ONS Tweet “Revealed” on MLK Day
Here is their tweet: “if u don't think our emotion is real, all I can do is pray for you. see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does” {8:38 PM Jan 18th from web; http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7933369787}.
First of all, we need to understand both the time and the subject context of this tweet. The date was January 18, 2010—which was of course MLK Day; and indeed they knew what day it was, as can be clearly seen in two earlier tweets that day {http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7910852947; http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7910861080}. This was also one day after the final Jackson Reality Show, which ended with a visit to Forest Lawn {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=82}.
The tweets both before and after the “revealed” tweet were all on the subject of the Reality Show, and especially the ending about MJ. Some of the tweets even mention MJ specifically {http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS; click “more” at the bottom of the page, until you get to January 18 tweets}.
So the context of this “revealed” tweet is clearly about MJ. The next step is to understand that this tweet is in response to hoax believers (“if u don't think our emotion is real”). Hoaxers have been saying all along, that a huge evidence of the hoax is the lack of tears from the family at the memorial and burial, etc. Surely, they are not ignorant of this.
And what could they possibly be responding to, other than the hoax—could it be that they were responding to accusations that their emotions were not real, because they don’t care that MJ is dead? Who would say such a thing? And even if someone was cold enough to say that, why would they even bother to respond? Worse yet, why would they respond by saying that the media lies?? Has the media been trying to convince people (falsely), that the Jackson family’s emotions are not real???
Sorry, but the statement about emotions and media lying doesn’t make sense, unless they were referring to the hoax theory. So this tweet was in response to hoax believers; and believers themselves have recognized this fact, in threads such as this one: “Jacksons address hoax!!” {posted by dirtydiana2009; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3783}. Since this is the most direct statement yet, from the family, about hoax believers: this tweet deserves thorough investigation.
The part about their “emotion is real” does not specifically say emotion from MJ dying; it could be emotion from the pain that the media lies have caused, etc (media lies are mentioned in this tweet, MJ death is not mentioned in this tweet). And in fact, even the hoax itself is painful for MJ (he knows that it has hurt the fans, and that hurts him; also, he wants to return as much or more than his fans want him to return).
Primarily, though, we need to examine the last half of this tweet: “see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does”. Notice the very clear plural usage: “see truths [plural] when they [plural] are [plural] revealed to you”. If MJ really were dead, and this is all that they were trying to say, then why the plural? Why wouldn’t it be “see the truth [MJ is dead] when it is revealed”?
And again, why the reference to the media lying?? If the Jacksons know that MJ is really dead, and this is what they are referring to here, then why wouldn’t they be supporting media “truth” (reports that MJ is dead)?? And why the phrase “ur eyes don’t lie”? We have never seen any dead body; so “ur eyes don’t lie” can’t possibly mean that our eyes have already seen for ourselves that MJ is really dead.
The only conclusion which makes sense, is that the Jacksons tweet mentioned “truths” about the hoax—and our eyes don’t lie regarding these things. This also fits the statement about the media lies—the media is not telling the truth about the hoax, they are saying that MJ is dead (but our eyes can see the hoax).
Now let’s take it a step further. Since this is clearly referring to truths about the hoax: why did they use the word “revealed”? Why not use some other word, such as “see truths when they r shown to you”? Or “recognize truths when they r seen by you”? Or any of several other ways to say it?
Do you suppose that they were entirely ignorant of TIAI Revealed—which was posted nearly a month before 1-18, and Part 1 had about 11,000 views by 1-18? Also, TIAI Revealed Update #1 was posted one week before 1-18, and had about 15,000 views by 1-18. Few if any posts on this forum have more views. If any of the Jacksons were paying any attention whatsoever to the hoax forums, then surely they were already aware of TIAI Revealed, on 1-18.
For the sake of TIAI doubters, let’s say that TIAI is not really MJ’s message. Don’t you think in that case, the Jacksons would avoid any hint of support for TIAI—and maybe even give hints against it? Yet instead of that, they use the very word “revealed” in this tweet, the statement which is the clearest statement yet from them about the hoax; and they refer to the things “revealed” as “truths” that “ur eyes” can and should “see”.
Not only did they use the word “revealed”, but they also referred to the media lies—which is one of the main themes in TIAI. Notice that TIAI Revealed, Part 7, even has the word media in the title: “NWO Powers Control the Mass Media”; and redirect #9 has the title: “9/11 Truth vs Mainstream Media”.
Last but not least: why was this tweet given on January 18, MLK Day? Do you think that they knew nothing about the MLK connections with the hoax (They Don’t Really Care About Us?)—and do you think they were totally unaware of TIAI Update #1 (with 15,000 views), and the things in there about January 18???
So we have here a clear Jackson statement about the hoax, using the word “revealed”, and referring to media lies—and it was even done on January 18, MLK Day! Either these things are more TIAI “coincidences” (added to all the previous ones), or else they were giving clues about TIAI.
Well, how much clearer of a clue do you want? Do they need to spell out the domain for you: http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com?? Be assured, that will not happen before MJ comes back (it would be too big of a hint about the hoax). In fact, don’t be too surprised if they don’t say anything directly even after MJ comes back—surely you can understand why, due to the nature of the subjects involved.
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2-3. Official Media Story of MJ Death: Impossible!
This section (2-3), and the next section (2-4), are especially for those who are losing faith—and thinking that maybe MJ is really dead.
Here is the tweet again: “if u don't think our emotion is real, all I can do is pray for you. see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie - media does” {8:38 PM Jan 18th from web; http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/7933369787}.
For the sake of the die-hard TIAI opposers, and even for the sake of those losing faith: let’s consider all possibilities about the word “revealed” in this tweet. Perhaps they were aware of TIAI Revealed, and used the “revealed” word anyway; or perhaps they were unaware of TIAI Revealed, and this is yet another round of TIAI & STUDY “coincidences”: usage of the word “revealed”, the reference to media lies, and tweeted on 1-18 (plus all the previous “coincidences”, see Update #1, 1-10). Let’s consider both of these possible situations (Jacksons aware of TIAI, or unaware).
If they were already aware of TIAI Revealed (and Update #1, about January 18): and they knew that TIAI is a fake message (either fake because MJ is really dead, or fake because MJ is alive yet TIAI message is wrong): then surely they would’ve avoided mentioning “truths ... revealed” in the same tweet about media lies on MLK Day!!! The only sane conclusion is that they are in support of TIAI Revealed, or else they have never even heard of it (and it was more “coincidences”).
But if you take the position that they are entirely ignorant of TIAI, it brings up several major problems. Why would they be ignorant of TIAI, are they paying no attention whatsoever to the hoax forums? Even if MJ were really dead, don’t you think that at least one person in the family might check the hoax forums now and then—and share the highlights with other family members? Don’t you think that TIAI redirects and Revealed would be one of those highlights, since there are so many views on TIAI posts? And especially if they know that MJ is alive, then wouldn’t they be even far more interested in the hoax forums??
For TIAI opposers and hoax doubters, we will now examine very seriously the only remaining realistic possibility. For the Jacksons to not be in favour of TIAI, all three of the following things would have to be true: first, MJ actually died; second, none of the family members are paying any attention whatsoever to the hoax forums; and third, the tweet about “truths ... revealed” and media lies on MLK Day are more amazing TIAI coincidences.
Some will probably find it easy to buy the third one, “coincidences”; a few may even think that the second one is true (Jacksons don’t read the forums)—but what about MJ actually being dead, could this be what the “truths ... revealed” tweet is about? We already examined that a little above, but now it’s time to take a much more serious look into this question—especially since more and more hoaxers are losing faith.
As noted already above, this tweet mentions media lies—in the context of Forest Lawn, and MJ, etc. So we can now be certain that the Jacksons do not agree with the media story about MJ’s “death”—we can rule that out as impossible! The only question is whether the media reports are not true because MJ is still alive, or the media reports are not true because MJ was intentionally murdered.
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2-4. Real Murder & Fake Hoax, or Fake Murder & Real Hoax?
The intentional murder theory has been around just about as long as the hoax theory (although not nearly as widely accepted as the hoax); and La Toya has even given support to this idea {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e8LPrYiT38}. But there are several major evidences against the murder theory—not the least of which is the family themselves!
Even La Toya’s murder complaints have come across more as a hoax diversion tactic, than a serious outcry for justice. But why hasn’t the entire family screamed “bloody murder”, if this is really what they believe??? Are they walking on eggshells, until the time is right to expose the murder plot? This is worthy of consideration; but if that is the case, then why did La Toya spill the beans? Why didn’t she keep quite like the rest?
Furthermore, the murder theory does not answer to the lack of tears from any of the family at the memorial and burial; quite the opposite—we saw smiling, laughing, many sunglasses (hiding tears, or hiding lack of tears??), and all the rest that most of you have known about for months. If they really thought that MJ was murdered, then you would expect them to be as much or more emotional than a real death from other reasons.
On June 25, TMZ reported that “La Toya Jackson was in tears as she ran inside the UCLA …” {http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/la-toya-jackson-michael-jackson-jacko-dead-dead/}. Notice in the picture that we can see her running, we can even see a close-up of her face—but we see no tears! We can see the sunglasses (as usual); but if there are any tears, they are not flowing down her face (and are only minor tears, hidden by the glasses).
All of the major evidences of the hoax still exist, they have not vanished. People are losing faith (thinking that maybe MJ is actually dead)—not because the hoax evidence has disappeared, but because MJ has not returned yet. But this fact, in and of itself, is no evidence that he was murdered.
We now know for certain that the media story about MJ’s “death” is not true (from the ALLJACK5ONS tweet). In the past, hoaxers have put the hoax evidence up against the official story. But we don’t need to do that anymore; the only thing left that we need to do, is put the hoax evidence up against the intentional murder theory. So let’s re-examine some of the major hoax evidences, in light of the murder theory.
This theory requires an extremely sinister and highly-calculated plot, with many involved—probably including at least some in the Jackson family. Please don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to say that this is the actual case; I am merely showing that this theory is totally unrealistic.
There can be no trace of doubt that if this was murder, it was intentionally covered up by trying to make it look like a death hoax; and it was well planned, long before June 25, 2009. But you would have to include Kenny Ortega, and many others, who were all involved in this plot to create the film “This Is It” and make it look like an MJ death hoax (Smooth Criminal / Gilda, spider resurrection, “Bam” statement at the end, no RIP, etc).
Then you have the Liberian Girl pictures at the memorial and burial. Surely you would think that at least one family member was involved in the selection of these pictures; and surely the family is not ignorant of MJ directing behind the scenes, in the Liberian Girl video. Either someone outside of the family (who was part of this sinister murder plot) had the power to require that these Liberian Girl pictures be used, or else the family was in on the murder plot (or else, of course, it was not murder).
Last but certainly not least: the 9-9-09 timing shows strikingly that the June 25 “death” and September 3 “burial” were not only planned, but they were planned by MJ himself—and not some NWO murder plot. This is because the timing is based on 77 days (6-25-09 to 9-9-09) and 7 days (9-3-09 to 9-9-09); these are numbers that MJ would certainly choose, but probably not NWO powers.
Furthermore, the usage of inclusive reckoning is something that none but diligent Bible students would understand; corrupt NWO leaders do not study the Bible very much (if at all), or care about inclusive reckoning in the Bible. Even many sincere Christians don’t know very much if anything about inclusive reckoning, much less NWO murderers.
I have yet to give an update on the 9-9-09 relationship to the hoax; it is one of the strongest evidences of the hoax, and against the murder theory. But I have decided not to give that update until after the TII DVD comes out.
For those who are still not sure if MJ is alive, even after all of the evidence in this TIAI update: here is your ultimate test, how to get closure. If Murray gets thrown in the slammer, then MJ is really dead. And watch for the Jacksons to reveal truths about the murder: “see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie”. If this tweet is not about the hoax, then it is about an intentional murder; and therefore they are saying that our eyes will see truths about this murder.
If the doctor goes to trial, and is found not guilty: again, watch the family. If they make an uproar (which they are certainly capable of doing, with all the publicity that they get)—and show truths about a murder plot, then MJ is really dead. But if they act nearly the same as at the memorial and funeral, then MJ is alive. And last of all, if MJ returns before the Murray trial—well I hope that will give you closure!!! Whatever, something is sure to happen soon and very soon.
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2-5. Is TMZ a Counterfeit Hoax Informer?
For those who did check TMZ on January 18, you may have seen the organized protest against mainstream media (NBC), although it was not specifically about MJ {http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/18/conan-obrien-photo-picture-protest-nbc-jay-leno/}. And of course, as already discussed in length above, January 18 was the day of the Jacksons tweet.
But some hoax believers have said that maybe TMZ is a counterfeit hoax informer, especially since January 18 came and went without the big MJ return. However, if TMZ does not have actual information about MJ, then why were they the first ones to report the “death”? Whether or not you believe the hoax, there can be no question that TMZ had insider information about MJ’s “death”.
Now for the sake of argument: let’s say that MJ himself was a member on a hoax forum, and announced a return date—but the date came and went, with no return. Would this prove that MJ is a counterfeit informer, or would it prove that he had to change his plans? By now, probably everyone knows that there was a major earthquake in Haiti, just one day after TIAI Update #1 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Haiti_earthquake}. This does not mean that the earthquake was the only reason why MJ did not return on 1-18; but it is an example of how things can happen, which cause a change in plans.
Notice what TIAI said about specific dates, in TIAI Revealed Part 6 (R22): “As he [MJ] said at the end of the movie: I will come ‘in my own time’; it is up to him alone, and nobody else will be able to figure it out for sure. Some distinct possibilities include: 12-25-09 (Christmas), 12-31-09 (full moon & New Years Eve), 1-1-10 (New Years Day), 1-18-10 (MLK Day), 1-25-10 (seven months since the ‘death’, and same time as the DVD release), or beyond.”
Also notice the title of Update #1: “HIGH PROBABILITY OF MJ ‘RETURN’ THIS MONTH!” It did not say “certainty”; and even the high “probability” was only “this month”—not necessarily January 18. And this month is not over yet; in fact, it has been ten days since TIAI Update #1, and there is still ten days to the end of January.
Some wondered why the word “RETURN” in the title (of Update #1) was in quote marks. Was it for emphasis, or was it indicating a non-real return (like when we refer to the “death” in quotes, it’s not a real death). Those who carefully read TIAI Revealed (Part 6), you will probably understand why it was in quotes. It goes back to my STUDY prediction about the TII movie rated “R”—for “Resurrection” (Thriller spider), hoax “Revealed” (Smooth Criminal, etc), and MJ “Return” (also this word used in the TII DVD).
If you read the replies and posts after Update #1, many people wisely cautioned against getting hopes too high for January 18; yet many got their hopes up anyway, and were very disappointed. Although the disappointment was unfortunate, yet a far greater disappointment is the fact that some are still more interested in a return date than they are about the reasons for the hoax {see “BAM! HE IS ‘BACK’!” by MJalive999; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3561}.
Nevertheless, it is encouraging that a large percentage of hoax believers have now seen and accepted the major reasons for the hoax. And again, if you read the replies, you will see that many are more interested in the message than the exact return date. Because January 18 was yet another of several disappointments, some have requested that we don’t use any more specific return date theories. So be it. When we are ready, when MJ is ready, he will return—no sooner, and no later.
Well, it’s time to wrap up this second update. In these updates I am not trying to defend myself; what I am defending is the message. And I am trying to help make MJ’s “return” safer, sooner, and more successful when he does come back.
The complaints against TIAI are losing their power, especially after this update. Almost all recent complaints have zero evidence, only derogatory statements. But anybody can say derogatory things, and it means nothing whatsoever (except that it shows what you personally don’t like). For those who want to go by truth, and not mere feelings, you need to base things on evidence. Truth can stand up to the test of evidence.
And finally, for those who might still have any doubts about TIAI, notice that fake informers usually make big claims about who they are (I’ve never said that I’m MJ, or Marlon, etc). Fake informers also come and go with the wind—can you count how many there have been, in the last half of a year? I can’t count them. And where are most of them now? Did they get bored? Or did it become obvious that they didn’t know anything in advance, etc?
In striking contrast to these fake informers, why is TIAI (& STUDY) still around after about half of a year—and going stronger than ever?? Why has TIAI (& STUDY) repeatedly shown advance information, as well as TIAI clues from TMZ and now the Jacksons? TIAI is not going away. It’s time for all of MJ’s real fans to accept his real message—it’s all for L.O.V.E.
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Many of us, including the message mj, today much money in the Unit and work together in love, I'll tell you my current thinking, I believe very strongly that mj is alive, I many trappings prove me right, but even if I had to imagine he is dead, I'm now a me say that anyway, the message is passed and is about to be integrated by many fans, thanks Notament has sites like http://mjawakening.wordpress.com (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com)
We're mostly into a new, love and trust them towards each other, vis a vis the universe also leads us to mj and his message, we are very much a unit, a family , share through social networks around the world, we are united, and even if I have a little trouble with this way of saying the army of love is ready for the captain returned because .... he will return soon, and we will be there to support him, many more, more love of life and heart filled with love for us and all mankind, I think the message is passed, some are longer than others, but patience is being put forward and each has its own pace, so let's be forgiving when the fauit that some still suffer from hoax and await the return .... the message goes around, the only concern was my eyes will now instead towards non believers, who expect nothing, how to help them slowly open their eyes to that the shock is too big? rating is probably my compassion, but most of the time return mj, has now ca I have a problem, I would like the message is expanded, the trust earns non believers because for them the shock will be severe, often I try to on facebook Karen, of Fiare passes the message and the automatic reactions that are violent, and without calling it now that it ca be worried because the back as good as it will form a psychological chaos for some, if any one have ideas to me how to help DOJ prepare his return psychological thank you for sharing with us because if we aujour'dui a family, we all need to support both believer and non believers because we love them too!
Pam
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Well, I think that avoiding speculating any returning day it is the best thing to do, TS. This will prevent people to make false hopes about this issue. In fact, I think it could be a much better idea to try to make the believers not thinking about this issue anymore and stopping being obsessed about it, and compensating instead their useless pain, with actually doing something good, something in the name of "the message" that you presented so lovely so far.
About 2-4 chapter: Don't misunderstand me: I am really thankful for all those wonderful messages you sent to us and for the fact that you created the opportunity for all of us to come together...but...don't you think it would be interesting to also approach the possibility hoax - marketing instrument?
As for the murder (which I don't think it is true first of all because of the family behavior) with all my respect, I think that if a real enemy would have planned this longtime before, he could have think of all these details such as 7-77-777 theory a.s.o. Remember that the grate warriors are first of all STUDY their enemy strategy and strengths and weaknesses and only afterwards they are starting the offence, trying to defy him with his own weapons. I really hope though that Michael is our warrior in this case and not the NWO.
One more thought and I'm done: don't try to convince the nonbelievers any more regarding your intention. There will always be suspiciousness about all this phenomenon and until you will be able to show yourself on a live Tv broadcasted statement or something like this and admit your true identity, this will never change. Although my feelings about you and your work are positive (coz this is how I am...I'm curse to always see the bright part), I will always keep a question mark in my mind, but I'll make sure to use to the maximum the things you taught us. Anyway, the ones who are enough wise and sensitive got the point and they already learned the lesson. The others will only say "Who excuses himself, accuses himself"
Indeed only love is the answer and, like I use to say: remember to LOVE before you L.O.V.E. ;) Hugs!
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Thanks TS for your update ;)
I hope it will help believers that were loosing faith to understand there's no reason to do that; as I said in one of my previous post I strongly believe Michael is alive and I strongly believe he needs to know we, fans, understand the reason and the message behind the hoax; he needs to know we accept and fully comprehend the message he wants to share with us, we need to embrace it and accept it. I believe it's very hard for him , this whole situation, that's why our support is so important.
At this point we have to be fans not only of his art, his music and dancing, but fans of his message, his believings and his soul.
I'm ready to wait till his ready, I want him to take his time, I love him so much.
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Many of us, including the message mj, today much money in the Unit and work together in love, I'll tell you my current thinking, I believe very strongly that mj is alive, I many trappings prove me right, but even if I had to imagine he is dead, I'm now a me say that anyway, the message is passed and is about to be integrated by many fans, thanks Notament has sites like http://mjawakening.wordpress.com (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com)
We're mostly into a new, love and trust them towards each other, vis a vis the universe also leads us to mj and his message, we are very much a unit, a family , share through social networks around the world, we are united, and even if I have a little trouble with this way of saying the army of love is ready for the captain returned because .... he will return soon, and we will be there to support him, many more, more love of life and heart filled with love for us and all mankind, I think the message is passed, some are longer than others, but patience is being put forward and each has its own pace, so let's be forgiving when the fauit that some still suffer from hoax and await the return .... the message goes around, the only concern was my eyes will now instead towards non believers, who expect nothing, how to help them slowly open their eyes to that the shock is too big? rating is probably my compassion, but most of the time return mj, has now ca I have a problem, I would like the message is expanded, the trust earns non believers because for them the shock will be severe, often I try to on facebook Karen, of Fiare passes the message and the automatic reactions that are violent, and without calling it now that it ca be worried because the back as good as it will form a psychological chaos for some, if any one have ideas to me how to help DOJ prepare his return psychological thank you for sharing with us because if we aujour'dui a family, we all need to support both believer and non believers because we love them too!
Pam
Pam, in the eventuality of his return, the nonbelievers who love Michael will be able to get through the shock. Regardless their denial, I'm sure that deep in their minds they are asking themselves "What if?" And to be honest, I'm not very sure about TINI real role in this hoax...On the other hand, those who also do not love Michael will simply say "He did it for money". That's why dared TS to also approach the hypotheses "hoax - marketing instrument". Of course we do not believe in such a main purpose for this hoax but, unfortunately, the most part of the world will only see this, simply because it is their way of measuring their life, they evaluate everything through the level of wealth, they only follow the money. So the idea of such a movement initiated in the name of LOVE can only make them laugh and saying "Ya, right!". That's why our own example of love sharing and happiness induced by our loving, altruist, God-like behavior is SO important in order to make them to stop and think a little bit, to reconsider the true values of this life...there will probably be just a few who will see the light, but it is better than nothing. They will be able to help others to make that change and s.o., until we will multiply just as Michael's Drill. If you want my opinion, it is not necessary to exaggerate in mentioning Michael's name as a reason for making that change, coz we don't have to forget that God's word is the first thing that lead us and the fact that Michael is a "modern times prophet" could sound questionable for many people that doesn't understand him yet. But, our own behavior can indeed change other people. And this doesn’t mean to constantly worship Michael and wiping his missing, but to spread the message and to demonstrate we are acting according to this message and that this inlights us. I have experienced this and I can't tell you what a wonderful feeling this can bring you, how much hope you can get with this, and how you begin to change the obsession for an uncertain return with the passion of sending the message forward and exercising it.
One thing to think about: don’t you think we are somehow selfish begging for his return? Did you ever thought about the problems he would have to face if he returns in the wrong moment? How many of us registered in the army of love? Do you think that only 500-600 people is enough to protect him and his goals in front of so many billons who are going to accuse him? So why can’t we just be happy coz everything points to him being alive and demonstrate what a grate leader he is for us, what wonderful, loving, forgiving, peaceful MJ fans are – an example for the entirely world to follow, an “army” of love that Michael would be proud of for always, wherever he would be.
I hope I didn’t offend anybody and that you understand where I’m coming from. These are my very true feelings. Hugs.
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One thing to think about: don’t you think we are somehow selfish begging for his return? Did you ever thought about the problems he would have to face if he returns in the wrong moment? How many of us registered in the army of love? Do you think that only 500-600 people is enough to protect him and his goals in front of so many billons who are going to accuse him? So why can’t we just be happy coz everything points to him being alive and demonstrate what a grate leader he is for us, what wonderful, loving, forgiving, peaceful MJ fans are – an example for the entirely world to follow, an “army” of love that Michael would be proud of for always, wherever he would be.
One more time you are so right Ralu, I am aware of what you say, and yes, now we must just be the shoulder for a day are coming back .... I guess he thinks has everything, and also to those which will once again denigrate speaking of money, we are a handful in the world to be in the army of love, and I admit that what matters is not returned or not, because I understand that he never return, but we voulont just that we say it is well that his life is peaceful now, he is with us !!!!! it's just that m ' imoporte today in addition to the message that I carry every day around me!
Michael, I know you read us, because I know that you need to know where we are, so believe in our feelings when we tell you that today is really important whether you are in good health and if sometimes we do not lose the head with the length of the hoax .... lol! EXTREMELY we all love you and even if we miss you terribly, what is important and that everything is under control (I n 'no doubt you knew a little) you can return whenever you think we will be there to hold you in our arms and welcome you! I love you all!
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TS, thank you again for the update. I really hope I will see more and more people discussing his message, instead of discussing when he will return.
I'll make it a global so nobody has to miss the update!
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Brilliant update, as always...Thank you, TS!
As I said in the other topic, I really don't mind to discuss a specific date for the big comeback...
I trust Michael and I prefer to look at his message. I strongly believe he is alive and I really hope this last post from you will bring back faith to the ones who were losing it...
Thank you also for being so specific...Sometimes we miss some important 'clues'.
Michael has to know WE LOVE HIM SO MUCH.
Take your time, Mike....You have our support
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Do the brothers know about this site? All I know is, I was disappointed in the ending of the Jackson Dynasty series. Marlon said it was going to "blow us away" and it was a fizzle. I sent him a message directing him to this site and told him "Be ready to get "blown away" and less than an hour later he tweeted that message about them showing no emotions, etc.
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it's been almost 7 months, and i'm pretty sure that if MJ is indeed aware of these forums, he knows by now that WE ALL LOVE HIM SO MUCH;
i'm an adult and i'm not going to lie about the fact that I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A RETURN DATE TO LOOK FORWARD TO, AND I'M SURE MANY OTHERS OUT THERE ARE IN THE SAME POSITION BUT DON'T WANNA COME OUT AN SAY IT FOR FEAR OF BEEN CALLED A WHINING KID. IT's not because we want to know that we've lost faith or anything like that, on the contrary. as for MJ's message, i'm sure we've all gotten it by now....
if there are 10 of us or 10.000, it's the same thing, nobody can be forced to believe, so please quit treating those who ask for a date like kids or ignorant selfish whiners!!! we all react differently in different situations and we all have a different tolerance to pain, to knowledge or the lack of knowledge.
whether we're young or old, we are all here for the same reason: MJ
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Thank you so much, TS.
One more absolutely right post at the right time. i have to admit that even myself who I trully beleive that Mike is alive, I have my moments of weakness, what if...?
But as I have said before and I won't get tired to say it...
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DATES !
PLEASE , MICHAEL, BE SAFE AND HEALTHY AND DO WHATEVER GOD ENLIGHTENED YOU TO DO .
I WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU !
WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, MY SWEETHEART !
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Thank you again TS for the very, very clear update!
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Hopefully more and more people coming to the point that there is no need to investigate anymore - it's about to trust the inner voice and the own feelings...
Regarding the hoax, MJ and the generation of faith and love in the hearts of human beeings, it's a great experience and a great adventure - and I'm very proud to be a part of it. Patience is all we need right now...
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Once again thank you so much TS with all my Heart.
Thank you for let us to know these important things .
Once again all is PROBABLY like you have wrote .
What i know it is that Michael , to me, has all the time He need . I' ll be there .
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Thanks for this update.. :!:
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Thank you TS!!
I have no words at the moment! WOW!!
I was a tiny bit losing faith and thinking he could possibly be dead.....but then I snap out of it and Im normal again.....
I am going to read ALL of your REVEALED postings again because the first time I read them, I was not feeling well...so this weekend Im going to read up again and print out everything youve written and STUDY it!!
You are awesome and out of all the "informers" weve encountered over the months, I beLIEve that YOU are the one to be trusted.
Thanks again,
Hearts and Hugs...
Jacksonologist
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Hopefully more and more people coming to the point that there is no need to investigate anymore - it's about to trust the inner voice and the own feelings...
Regarding the hoax, MJ and the generation of faith and love in the hearts of human beeings, it's a great experience and a great adventure - and I'm very proud to be a part of it. Patience is all we need right now...
Couldn't put it better. My sentiments exactly...
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Firstly I like to thank you so much TS. I'm here to say again and again I DO KNOW. It's far away from a "believing". I KNOW. Me like others here and there who really love Mike. We are trying hard to spread this message and make more and more people aware. Please, beLIEvers, don't you forget to spread his message anywhere, to you family and friends too. I think all the world must be aware for things that are happening. This is not only for Mike's fans. If each one of us spread this message anywhere we can get stronger. "Knowledge is Power!"
In this specific date,(MLK day) many non-believers fans attacked believers on twitter. It's really sad to see this... We must keep ourselves patient and calm in order to face situation like that. I know is very hard to accept so much hate and violence and just turn the other cheek, I know that for sure because I have a difficult and hard genius and sometimes we get really exausted, but we must keep on trying. We are here for the same and special reason. First, for Michael and then we discovered we are the bearers of his message of L.O.V.E
I'm aware that Michael reads this forum. Michael, thank you for you being so concerned about our future, about the whole world future. Just one more proof of your great humanitarianism. Be healthy, be happy and be safe, dear. Take your breath and come back in your own time. We keep on trying to make our part. and We'll always be there.
We L.O.V.E you!
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Thanks for update #2.
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We all want him to back, thats quite obvious, but the message is more important than the return.
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Thank you, TS!
GUYS!!!
READ ABOUT HAARP!!!! (this is not gold pants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwhege4IuNs but can be the difference between LIFE and DEATH)
I am pretty sure that Haiti earthquake was INDUCED!!! (HAITI FEBRUARY 12/13th. 7.0M)
Just Like CHINA SEA EARTQUAKE on MAY 12/13th 2008. 7.9M http://www.internationalrivers.org/node/3827 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwIadY5FI8
EL SALVADOR on FEBRUARY 13th , 2001 7.7
and maybe CHILE on JUNE 13th, 2005. 7.9
see the NUMBERS! (will vary from site to site, but both earthquake are suspicious)
if you believe Michael is alive! If you say there are no coincidences in his case, maybe you should believe there are NO coincidences too!
The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati.
8 1 1 18 16 = 8-1=7+1=8+18=26+1=27+6=33
H A A R P
More links:
Chavez: US Navy Tectonic Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake http://grantlawrence.blogspot.com/2010/01/chavez-us-navy-tectonic-weapon-test.html
Earthquakes, Tsunami:Man made using HAARP? http://www.qatarliving.com/node/117524
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL could be part of NWO DEPOPULATION PLAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8
UN CLIMATE CHANGE CONFERENCE (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A)
What is depopulation?
Plans are underway now, implemented by the New World Order Elite, to depopulate the planet's 6-7 billion people to a manageable level of between 500 million and 2 billion. but i dont believe. they WILL NOT win! but they are acting ...
disasters such as earthquakes! thousands die immediately, then more die of hunger, disease, violence ...
There are many means and methods of depopulation that are being employed today, the 3 primary of which include; unsustainable/exploitative international development, which leads to massive hunger, starvation and famine worldwide (at least 40 million deaths annually), the fomentation of war, hatred and military procurements throughout the nations leading to millions of deaths worldwide, and finially, the creation and spread of infectious diseases leading to global pandemic, plague and pestilence on an unprecedented scale. http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm (http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm)
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FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency
6 5 13 1 = 6-5=1+13=14-1=13
F E M A
do not expect much from them ...
Katrina And The FEMA Scandal Exposed (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM)
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H1N1
and suddenly the flu appeared in Mexico ...
The epidemiological data is fabricated, falsified and manipulated. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), an epidemic of worldwide proportions now looms and threatens the livelihood of “2 billion people [who] could become infected over the next two years — nearly one-third of the world population.” (World Health Organization as reported by the Western media, July 2009). According to the Obama adminstration, the “swine flu could strike up to 40 percent of Americans … and as many as several hundred thousand could die if a vaccine campaign and other measures aren’t successful.” (Official Statement of the US Administration, Associated Press, 24 July 2009).
These statements serve to mislead public opinion. There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO’s level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the N1H1 swine flu.
The Pandemic serves the interests of Big Pharma. The WHO is planning for the production of 4.9 billion dose, enough to inoculate a large share of the World’s population. Big Pharma including Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca have signed procurement contracts with some 50 governments. (Reuters, July 16, 2009). For these companies, compulsory vaccination is a highly lucrative undertaking http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... -pandemic/ (http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/the-worldwide-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic/)
Michael Jackson Murdered to Protect H1N1 Vaccine & Genocide Plot? http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michae ... ocide-plot (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jackson-murdered-protect-h1n1-vaccine-genocide-plot)
28 Pregnant Women Dead From H1N1 Swine Flu in U.S. http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/ ... -flu-in-us (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091001/28-pregnant-women-dead-from-h1n1-swine-flu-in-us)
Mandatory H1N1 Swine Flu Forced Vaccinations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk) (IMPORTANT: pregnant woman AND kids)
Makers Of Vaccine Refuse To Take H1N1 :roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0)
Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw) Dr. Kent http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf)
Some Pregnant Women Fearful of H1N1 Vaccine http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/ ... ne.htm#gB3 (http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearful-of-h1n1-vaccine.htm#gB3)
Swine Flu Vaccine Deadly To Pregnant Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4)
Deadly ??? so WHY THEY ARE FORCING????
BTW, have fun Dangers of the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... e&rclk=pti (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D857DC651D4D314E&search_query=kids+vaccine&rclk=pti)
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Invincible
This is not about h1n1, but is a 'funny' coincidence involving the number eleven!
I dont know if you know but that Drawing in Invicible (By Uri Geller) was edited!
Original: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover1.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)
Edited: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover2.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)
GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
eleven eleven (Drawn on a napkin at 11:11pm at a hotel in New York City, this remarkable make up of elements and positive symbols are the inner core of Invincible by uri) Uri says that 11:11 is a MAGICAL NUMBER... what is magic for him?? (remember 11 and the 911) and the end of the world Maya calendar at 12-21-2012 11:11 A.M.
According to Illuminati 11:11 is a alarm clock. Uri talks a lot about ...
11/11 - A Christian Perspective Of The New World Order And Illuminati http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html (http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html)
Read Uri explanation: the left of the magnificent eye is a symbol from an outer planet. (He forgot that the EYE is a illuminati symbol); a picture of the Star of David were all removed from the original drawing (Star of David an occult Symbol); A pentagram representing the five elements of the universe: EARTH, AIR, FIRE, WATER and SPIRIT. (To the Wiccan ... :roll: ) http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm (http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm)
Btw, watch ''My friend Michael Jackson'' By Uri ... OMG! He is so FAKE that ..argh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk) energy, hypnosis ...he even tried to cry (no tears, of course)
Unbreakable
Michael wanted Unbreakable to be the first single from Invincible. Sony, however, released You Rock My World and Cry as the first singles. Unbreakable was included in Michael Jackson: The Ultimate Collection. (together with the FABULOUS We've Had Enough).
And we have MJxSONY. But not EXACTLY Sony, the true trouble was Tommy Mottola.
Invicible was a failure in the industry and the media. why?
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby
You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
and I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable
You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I'm a still remain the same,I'm un-brea-ka-ble
Why not Unbreakable to be the first single???
I just need you to know that this is very important what we are fighting for because I am tired really really tired of all the manipulations. I am tired of how the press is manipulating everything ...of this situation, they do not tell the truth... they lie.
They manipulate our history books, the history books are not true, its a lie, the history books are lying, you need to know that, you must know that.
the minute I started breaking the all times records record sales, I broke all time records, I broke Elvis's records, I broke Beatle's records...the minute I made the all time best selling albums in the history of world records...overnight they call me a freak, they called me a homosexual, they called me a child molester, they said I tried to bleach my skin...they said everything to turn the public against me...this all complete complete conspiracy, you have to know this..._ Michael Jackson, Harlem/ 2002.
The same media that called Michael ''King of Pop'' called him ''Wacko Jacko''... and Who is behind the media? (watch V for Vendetta)
Are you REALLY listening to his MESSAGE?
i see much significance in Invincible ... each song! it is like a warning....
CRY ... ;)
WAKE UP FANS!
wake up 'cause maybe ... it's too late ...
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
Did God hear it from me?
Did God hear it from you?
Did God hear it from us?
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
DON'T LET THE IGNORANCE KILL US!
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You know what is odd about the Jack5ons too, is that when they are on twitter and they see our avatars they never question why we have the twibbon alive on it. When we tweet about knowing that Michael is stil here with us, in the flesh, they don't tweet to anyone to say that is disrespectful. We can pretty much say that they absolutely know about the hoax forums and what we know is true. I know they can't just put themselves out their and just comment on every response to the hoax, but there has been absolutely no word on how they feel disrespected or anything to say we have to say Michael is not alive.
Should we all, as beLIEvers, still stick to the tweet that Kenny Ortega sent through twitter giving the line from Peter Pan saying, "“Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom Captain Hook: He’s back” Then Kenny tweets back to all of us beLIEvers with, “Most of my followers new I was quoting text from Peter Pan. Please don’t look for hidden messages. Promise they’re not there. Just fun.” ;)
Now I know we shouldn't dwell on the return of Michael, but we all want to know when that will be. Should we just stick with what Kenny tweeted on Sept. 1st as to the return time? Is this the time in which we should of stuck with ever since he tweeted this message? It's just funny how he has to tell us that there are no hidden messages in his tweet. If so many of his followers questioned his tweet, why didn't he just say that he was quoting from one of Michael's favorite stories or to tell us that I am in no way disrespecting Michael to say he is alive or that he is coming back? He had to tell us in a backwards way that it is a hidden message without giving the message away.
TMZ is most definitely in on the hoax. To be the first to announce Michael's "death" before anyone else. Even minutes before he "died" which is a clue in it self. I also notice when Harvey or his staff talks about Michael or anything to do with his death, he gets all squirmy and in a nervous state. He doesn't like to keep eye contact or to even keep a straight face. Here's a video, done by DaisyDyva, of him getting nervous about answering a question from a tv interviewer about how they were the first to announce Michael's "death."
[youtube:1dg4oni1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=303mmolg5is&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube:1dg4oni1] ;) :lol:
Just like the Jack5ons said in their tweet, "see truths when they r revealed to you. ur eyes don't lie..." ;)
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The Harlem 2002 speech is of great significance IMO ;) he stated very clear our history books are not truthful, he stated very clear the moment he started to be "the greatest of the greatest" a campaign to destroy him, his reputation, him as human being, has started. Could has he been clearer than that? I don't think so.
I think we truly have to understand how important is for him we get the message, how much he cares about it. He did what he did because he really believes in what he did, he strongly believes in that. Otherwise he would have gone on with his life. We have to try and embrace what he wants us to embrace, to comprehend and accept, we need to look deeper into things and to trust him. And be ready to stand by him. Not only by saying: "he's the best, I love him, etc etc.." but by being a part of his message. This will be a great adventure ;)
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Hopefully more and more people coming to the point that there is no need to investigate anymore - it's about to trust the inner voice and the own feelings...
Regarding the hoax, MJ and the generation of faith and love in the hearts of human beeings, it's a great experience and a great adventure - and I'm very proud to be a part of it. Patience is all we need right now...
Couldn't put it better. My sentiments exactly...
Same here!
And thanks TS for your update! I'm not able to read everything on the forum so this post from you was just what I needed. The most important thing for us is to understand the message and to support Michael whenever and as much as we can. I'm so thankfull and proud of him, always have, always will be. After all he has gone through, he still believes in the goodness of people. I admire his fight for a better world on all levels. He's absolutly an amazing human being!
Maybe this is off-topic and maybe it's posted before, but I came across this link which is a cry to the world and a sign to Michael that we are here and that we do care (in contrast of the makers of the site, who believe he passed away).
http://www.mjworldcry.com (http://www.mjworldcry.com)
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Thank you, TS!
GUYS!!!
READ ABOUT HAARP!!!! (this is not gold pants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwhege4IuNs but can be the difference between LIFE and DEATH)
I am pretty sure that Haiti earthquake was INDUCED!!! (HAITI FEBRUARY 12/13th. 7.0M)
Just Like CHINA SEA EARTQUAKE on MAY 12/13th 2008. 7.9M http://www.internationalrivers.org/node/3827 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwIadY5FI8
EL SALVADOR on FEBRUARY 13th , 2001 7.7
and maybe CHILE on JUNE 13th, 2005. 7.9
see the NUMBERS! (will vary from site to site, but both earthquake are suspicious)
if you believe Michael is alive! If you say there are no coincidences in his case, maybe you should believe there are NO coincidences too!
The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati.
8 1 1 18 16 = 8-1=7+1=8+18=26+1=27+6=33
H A A R P
More links:
Chavez: US Navy Tectonic Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake http://grantlawrence.blogspot.com/2010/01/chavez-us-navy-tectonic-weapon-test.html
Earthquakes, Tsunami:Man made using HAARP? http://www.qatarliving.com/node/117524
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL could be part of NWO DEPOPULATION PLAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8
UN CLIMATE CHANGE CONFERENCE (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A)
What is depopulation?
Plans are underway now, implemented by the New World Order Elite, to depopulate the planet's 6-7 billion people to a manageable level of between 500 million and 2 billion. but i dont believe. they WILL NOT win! but they are acting ...
disasters such as earthquakes! thousands die immediately, then more die of hunger, disease, violence ...
There are many means and methods of depopulation that are being employed today, the 3 primary of which include; unsustainable/exploitative international development, which leads to massive hunger, starvation and famine worldwide (at least 40 million deaths annually), the fomentation of war, hatred and military procurements throughout the nations leading to millions of deaths worldwide, and finially, the creation and spread of infectious diseases leading to global pandemic, plague and pestilence on an unprecedented scale. http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm (http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm)
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FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency
6 5 13 1 = 6-5=1+13=14-1=13
F E M A
do not expect much from them ...
Katrina And The FEMA Scandal Exposed (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM)
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H1N1
and suddenly the flu appeared in Mexico ...
The epidemiological data is fabricated, falsified and manipulated. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), an epidemic of worldwide proportions now looms and threatens the livelihood of “2 billion people [who] could become infected over the next two years — nearly one-third of the world population.” (World Health Organization as reported by the Western media, July 2009). According to the Obama adminstration, the “swine flu could strike up to 40 percent of Americans … and as many as several hundred thousand could die if a vaccine campaign and other measures aren’t successful.” (Official Statement of the US Administration, Associated Press, 24 July 2009).
These statements serve to mislead public opinion. There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO’s level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the N1H1 swine flu.
The Pandemic serves the interests of Big Pharma. The WHO is planning for the production of 4.9 billion dose, enough to inoculate a large share of the World’s population. Big Pharma including Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca have signed procurement contracts with some 50 governments. (Reuters, July 16, 2009). For these companies, compulsory vaccination is a highly lucrative undertaking http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... -pandemic/ (http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/the-worldwide-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic/)
Michael Jackson Murdered to Protect H1N1 Vaccine & Genocide Plot? http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michae ... ocide-plot (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jackson-murdered-protect-h1n1-vaccine-genocide-plot)
28 Pregnant Women Dead From H1N1 Swine Flu in U.S. http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/ ... -flu-in-us (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091001/28-pregnant-women-dead-from-h1n1-swine-flu-in-us)
Mandatory H1N1 Swine Flu Forced Vaccinations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk) (IMPORTANT: pregnant woman AND kids)
Makers Of Vaccine Refuse To Take H1N1 :roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0)
Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw) Dr. Kent http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf)
Some Pregnant Women Fearful of H1N1 Vaccine http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/ ... ne.htm#gB3 (http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearful-of-h1n1-vaccine.htm#gB3)
Swine Flu Vaccine Deadly To Pregnant Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4)
Deadly ??? so WHY THEY ARE FORCING????
BTW, have fun Dangers of the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... e&rclk=pti (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D857DC651D4D314E&search_query=kids+vaccine&rclk=pti)
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Invincible
This is not about h1n1, but is a 'funny' coincidence involving the number eleven!
I dont know if you know but that Drawing in Invicible (By Uri Geller) was edited!
Original: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover1.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)
Edited: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover2.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)
GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
eleven eleven (Drawn on a napkin at 11:11pm at a hotel in New York City, this remarkable make up of elements and positive symbols are the inner core of Invincible by uri) Uri says that 11:11 is a MAGICAL NUMBER... what is magic for him?? (remember 11 and the 911) and the end of the world Maya calendar at 12-21-2012 11:11 A.M.
According to Illuminati 11:11 is a alarm clock. Uri talks a lot about ...
11/11 - A Christian Perspective Of The New World Order And Illuminati http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html (http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html)
Read Uri explanation: the left of the magnificent eye is a symbol from an outer planet. (He forgot that the EYE is a illuminati symbol); a picture of the Star of David were all removed from the original drawing (Star of David an occult Symbol); A pentagram representing the five elements of the universe: EARTH, AIR, FIRE, WATER and SPIRIT. (To the Wiccan ... :roll: ) http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm (http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm)
Btw, watch ''My friend Michael Jackson'' By Uri ... OMG! He is so FAKE that ..argh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk) energy, hypnosis ...he even tried to cry (no tears, of course)
Unbreakable
Michael wanted Unbreakable to be the first single from Invincible. Sony, however, released You Rock My World and Cry as the first singles. Unbreakable was included in Michael Jackson: The Ultimate Collection. (together with the FABULOUS We've Had Enough).
And we have MJxSONY. But not EXACTLY Sony, the true trouble was Tommy Mottola.
Invicible was a failure in the industry and the media. why?
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby
You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
and I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable
You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I'm a still remain the same,I'm un-brea-ka-ble
Why not Unbreakable to be the first single???
I just need you to know that this is very important what we are fighting for because I am tired really really tired of all the manipulations. I am tired of how the press is manipulating everything ...of this situation, they do not tell the truth... they lie.
They manipulate our history books, the history books are not true, its a lie, the history books are lying, you need to know that, you must know that.
the minute I started breaking the all times records record sales, I broke all time records, I broke Elvis's records, I broke Beatle's records...the minute I made the all time best selling albums in the history of world records...overnight they call me a freak, they called me a homosexual, they called me a child molester, they said I tried to bleach my skin...they said everything to turn the public against me...this all complete complete conspiracy, you have to know this..._ Michael Jackson, Harlem/ 2002.
The same media that called Michael ''King of Pop'' called him ''Wacko Jacko''... and Who is behind the media? (watch V for Vendetta)
Are you REALLY listening to his MESSAGE?
i see much significance in Invincible ... each song! it is like a warning....
CRY ... ;)
WAKE UP FANS!
wake up 'cause maybe ... it's too late ...
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
Did God hear it from me?
Did God hear it from you?
Did God hear it from us?
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
DON'T LET THE IGNORANCE KILL US!
Extremely well put MJAlive999, I wholeheartedly second your post! Thank you!
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Thanks for the update TS :)
It's always a pleasure, to read your posts!
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[bMJs Tinkerbell » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:07 pm
Do the brothers know about this site? All I know is, I was disappointed in the ending of the Jackson Dynasty series. Marlon said it was going to "blow us away" and it was a fizzle. I sent him a message directing him to this site and told him "Be ready to get "blown away" and less than an hour later he tweeted that message about them showing no emotions, etc.][/b]
MJSTinkerbell,
So, he didn't even reply? huh? :shock:
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GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
I read all of what you posted. No surprise. Yes. People need to watch the Obama Deception and also the homo-geni-zation on youtube and http://www.endtime.com (http://www.endtime.com).
Much corrpution indeed!!
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Ts, got a chance to read much of the TIAI info. Thanks for taking time to give much insight on this. I too, will read it over again. :)
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TS, once again, great post. Very succinct and informative. I am truly glad to read that you will be spending less time trying to convince people that you are true and only here to help MJ. If, with all the credible evidence out there, people still cannot wrap their heads around MJ being alive, then what more can you do? You have your place on this wonderful journey, and those that have embraced MJ's message will happily hop on board to ride it out with you. Sometimes the ride will get bumpy and test our certitude; but that is when the TIAI redirects help us, having taught us to investigate, investigate, investigate. You have my support and of course MJ has my wholehearted support. One Love.
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GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
I read all of what you posted. No surprise. Yes. People need to watch the Obama Deception and also the homo-geni-zation on youtube and http://www.endtime.com (http://www.endtime.com).
Much corrpution indeed!!
Obama should never have been elected. Period. People are just now realizing this...he has done NOTHING to help our country at all. Sorry to say to the Obama supporters..but he needs to be feared.
Im not kidding.
There are SO many questions about him that people want answers to and they just cover it up. Who he has/had ties with in the past, where he was REALLY born...and a ton of other stuff I dont want to get into right now, but those of you who are aware KNOW what Im talking about.
People voted for him cus he is a slick talker and manipulater and he promised "change"....well not the change WE expected and the change HE wants are two completely different things.
Corruption isnt even the word.
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Jacksonologist,
They also voted because he was african-american. Sorry, no offense. I too am African American. i didn't vote for this reason. I am not in political parties. Right is right, wrong is wrong for me and do it to make change. There is an article in my area where people are very displeased. He promised that people will see more specifics about the healthcare! one person stated that as of yet, this promise never came to pass. Look what they did behind our backs. People don't go for that healthcare! It will be Worse mistake for all of us...I believe it's another form of depopulation in regards to those who are elderly/those who are sick.
You are right! corruption is definitely not even close!
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@ MJAlive999
A thousands bravo about your post !
I wouldn't change a word!!! ;)
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I read all of what you posted. No surprise. Yes. People need to watch the Obama Deception and also the homo-geni-zation on youtube and http://www.endtime.com (http://www.endtime.com).
Much corrpution indeed!!
Good :) but MANY are sleeping :)
and thank you!
NWO is not new to me! But things are Worse than we could imagine.
government want a bunch of puppets, dumb and happy. and is what they have.
when you are at home watching crap on TV, they are planning the next attack. and you will never find out 'cause you think that it is not your problem!
open your eyes do the right thing in election.
depending on your choice ... you may be Signing your own Death Sentence.
tik tak ... time is running out!
It's time to wake up!
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3103/obay.jpg)
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Lots to think about here. You have to know what is fact and what is theory and the decide on what to believe.
Yes, deception and lies and NWO. VERYONE needs to open their eyes.
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Jacksonologist,
They also voted because he was african-american. Sorry, no offense. I too am African American. i didn't vote for this reason. I am not in political parties. Right is right, wrong is wrong for me and do it to make change. There is an article in my area where people are very displeased. He promised that people will see more specifics about the healthcare! one person stated that as of yet, this promise never came to pass. Look what they did behind our backs. People don't go for that healthcare! It will be Worse mistake for all of us...I believe it's another form of depopulation in regards to those who are elderly/those who are sick.
You are right! corruption is definitely not even close!
I know they voted because he is African American...but he is also part white as well. I am white.
His race isnt the issue, I could care less if the president was green...as long as he did..HONESTLY what he promised.
Obama IS the worst choice this country has made in my opinion. Im sorry to say but thats how I feel..
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THE JACKSONOLOGIST » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:33 pm
Infinitylady wrote:
Jacksonologist,
They also voted because he was african-american. Sorry, no offense. I too am African American. i didn't vote for this reason. I am not in political parties. Right is right, wrong is wrong for me and do it to make change. There is an article in my area where people are very displeased. He promised that people will see more specifics about the healthcare! one person stated that as of yet, this promise never came to pass. Look what they did behind our backs. People don't go for that healthcare! It will be Worse mistake for all of us...I believe it's another form of depopulation in regards to those who are elderly/those who are sick.
You are right! corruption is definitely not even close!
I know they voted because he is African American...but he is also part white as well. I am white.
His race isnt the issue, I could care less if the president was green...as long as he did..HONESTLY what he promised.
Obama IS the worst choice this country has made in my opinion. Im sorry to say but thats how I feel..
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Yeah, so far, things have not gotten any better. Really, he is only one man however, there is so much behind the scenes that is going on and every since I watched the Obama deception I feel that they are just stringing the American people along with hype and that is pretty much it. People really need to start contacting their Senators and congressman in their local area. Read the Bills that come out there and not ignore. I have been guilty of this in the past and every since I see the video and seen the issues about the H1N1 quarantine issues there is no time to play anymore.
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Thanken you Muchly for the update Mr Ts :)
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Infinitylady,
I ahve yet to watch the Obama Deception...I will watch it tonight in the comfort of my own bedroom.
I tell you....do you know how many things they have done behind our backs? Not only this president but presidents in yrs past? They wait for some big news story,, like Tiger Woods, and they hurry up and pass laws we have no idea about. They worked feverishly on Christmas Eve, and New Yrs eve to pass this health care bill...when no one was watching TV, spending time with faily and enjoying the holiday and the BOOM..you wake up in the morning to find they passed some f****d up law. I am without ANY healthcare and I do NOT want this thing passed. They tried to "postpone" Massachussetts Brown from being sworn in so they could pass the healthcare bill...but it didnt work. If it did, then I would assume a revolt would have taken place. I think one needs to take place anyways.
They squeeze in little things inside bills. Like "I'll vote to pass this if you give me this for my state.." Its complete BS and I do NOT understand why so many Americans that know this is happening are not doing anything about it. We cant write to our senators because they are part of the problem.
I could go on and on,, but it just makes me mad as all hell that this crap is being allowed. Plus the stuff the general public doesnt even know about.
Im starting to think 911 is a conspiracy too...
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by THE JACKSONOLOGIST » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:12 pm
Infinitylady,
I ahve yet to watch the Obama Deception...I will watch it tonight in the comfort of my own bedroom.
I tell you....do you know how many things they have done behind our backs? Not only this president but presidents in yrs past? They wait for some big news story,, like Tiger Woods, and they hurry up and pass laws we have no idea about. They worked feverishly on Christmas Eve, and New Yrs eve to pass this health care bill...when no one was watching TV, spending time with faily and enjoying the holiday and the BOOM..you wake up in the morning to find they passed some f****d up law. I am without ANY healthcare and I do NOT want this thing passed. They tried to "postpone" Massachussetts Brown from being sworn in so they could pass the healthcare bill...but it didnt work. If it did, then I would assume a revolt would have taken place. I think one needs to take place anyways.
They squeeze in little things inside bills. Like "I'll vote to pass this if you give me this for my state.." Its complete BS and I do NOT understand why so many Americans that know this is happening are not doing anything about it. We cant write to our senators because they are part of the problem.
I could go on and on,, but it just makes me mad as all hell that this crap is being allowed. Plus the stuff the general public doesnt even know about.
Im starting to think 911 is a conspiracy too...[/[/color]b]
Girl, The conspiracy about 911 is on youtube too. IDK!! It just tears in my eyes. Yeah, it makes me angry. This nation has become weak because they just allowed anything to happen. After 911 from what I was told we no longer really have any privacy even on our phones when we talk to people. It's sad!
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I know!! I watched that one!! Pretty freaky!!
I wonder what the nation will be like a yr from now?
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@ THE JACKSONOLOGIST
Sorry guys I don't live in the US and I don't have followed this issue with your healthcare system change or what. From what I 've heard ( very little actually) , I thought it was going to be a good change , but you obviously don't think so.
Can you enlighten me a little ?
Thanks. :)
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MMmm the word revealed... I remember TII movie, at the beginning when they showed light man and Kenny said "and piece by piece by piece MJ is revealed " ...
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@ THE JACKSONOLOGIST
Sorry guys I don't live in the US and I don't have followed this issue with your healthcare system change or what. From what I 've heard ( very little actually) , I thought it was going to be a good change , but you obviously don't think so.
Can you enlighten me a little ?
Thanks. :)
They make it seem like it will be better for the people but its not. The govt wants complete control over healthcare and this healthcare reform is just the first step in their plan...next are the banks....although some of the bank ownership has already begun.
The healthcare reform would cut out alot of Medicare (which is a health plan for older people) coverage so older folks will not be able to get the help they need. Prescription costs are VERY high and as it is right now, alot of older citizens cant pay for their medicines.
This is just one aspect. The Congress and Senate are bartering with each other over this. There is over 2000 pages to this reform bill and NO ONE has even read it yet.
Im not very good at explaining these kind of things so if Infinitylady could help me out here? LOL
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I begin to wonder if Michael is behind all this fora to make us aware of all this frightning and serious issues that are going on in this world.....Sorry, no offence, just a thought......
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I begin to wonder if Michael is behind all this fora to make us aware of all this frightning and serious issues that are going on in this world.....Sorry, no offence, just a thought......
Not offended at all....He may be...you never know!
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I begin to wonder if Michael is behind all this fora to make us aware of all this frightning and serious issues that are going on in this world.....Sorry, no offence, just a thought......
Not offended at all....He may be...you never know!
If only we could have him as our wordleader...!
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Jacksonologist,
They also voted because he was african-american. Sorry, no offense. I too am African American. i didn't vote for this reason. I am not in political parties. Right is right, wrong is wrong for me and do it to make change. There is an article in my area where people are very displeased. He promised that people will see more specifics about the healthcare! one person stated that as of yet, this promise never came to pass. Look what they did behind our backs. People don't go for that healthcare! It will be Worse mistake for all of us...I believe it's another form of depopulation in regards to those who are elderly/those who are sick.
You are right! corruption is definitely not even close!
You are very brave because many african americans wont say that. I have always had an awesome diversity of friends and we are undivided,but suddenly in late 2008 there was a divide...and yes some of my friends were voting for him soley because he was african american, and if you werent, it meant you were racist. I said" if we are all equal and we are one country that has come so far,then why cant we look deeper in this then color? Division and racial bias is just that, wether it be in a negative for a candidate or a positive. They would say "I think he will be a great president"...why? what makes you think so? No one could answer-it was media propelled just like everything else.
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They make it seem like it will be better for the people but its not. The govt wants complete control over healthcare and this healthcare reform is just the first step in their plan...next are the banks....although some of the bank ownership has already begun.
The healthcare reform would cut out alot of Medicare (which is a health plan for older people) coverage so older folks will not be able to get the help they need. Prescription costs are VERY high and as it is right now, alot of older citizens cant pay for their medicines.
This is just one aspect. The Congress and Senate are bartering with each other over this. There is over 2000 pages to this reform bill and NO ONE has even read it yet.
Thank you very much @ THE JACKSONOLOGIST.
I got an idea . More or less the same s**t happens everywhere.
And you see, how far have we go?
And , yes, Michael IS behind all this ( with his way).
THIS IS AN ADVENTURE. A GREAT ADVENTURE !!
A trip to awareness!!!
Thank all of you , guys ! ;)
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"American Dictator" from Alex Jones(the one who brought Obama Deception) talks about 9/11. ....this stuff is why I backed out of going into the military almose too late :D P.S. Everyone I LOVE our people in uniform but those who are brave enough to say it will say the same thing we are talking about.
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Jacksonologist,
They also voted because he was african-american. Sorry, no offense. I too am African American. i didn't vote for this reason. I am not in political parties. Right is right, wrong is wrong for me and do it to make change. There is an article in my area where people are very displeased. He promised that people will see more specifics about the healthcare! one person stated that as of yet, this promise never came to pass. Look what they did behind our backs. People don't go for that healthcare! It will be Worse mistake for all of us...I believe it's another form of depopulation in regards to those who are elderly/those who are sick.
You are right! corruption is definitely not even close!
You are very brave because many african americans wont say that. I have always had an awesome diversity of friends and we are undivided,but suddenly in late 2008 there was a divide...and yes some of my friends were voting for him soley because he was african american, and if you werent, it meant you were racist. I said" if we are all equal and we are one country that has come so far,then why cant we look deeper in this then color? Division and racial bias is just that, wether it be in a negative for a candidate or a positive. They would say "I think he will be a great president"...why? what makes you think so? No one could answer-it was media propelled just like everything else.
There is an african american woman that works with my BF.
I brought him dinner one night and we were watching the news on TV (it was election time) and in comes said woman. Nice lady.
She asked us if we were voting for him and I was shocked by the question. Normally I find it inappropriate to ask anyone who they are voting for, but I said "Not on your life" and she responded back "Why? You have something against black people?"
I said "not at all...I have something againt liars though.."
She gave me the most evil look. LOL
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I begin to wonder if Michael is behind all this fora to make us aware of all this frightning and serious issues that are going on in this world.....Sorry, no offence, just a thought......
hmmm
that he faked his own death and is using this to open the eyes of the world about the NWO?
YES!
How many people around the world are involved now? investigating or not his death?
and of course 911 is fake.
terrorism does not exist!
this is something that the U.S. invented to control the people! and to start a war with second intentions.
Bush is behind 911! This attack on the Twin Towers was a Satanic Fire Sacrifice. (remember the demons in the smoke).
ohh, and this is the scene of the video that according to USA is where 'Osama Bin Laden' assumed responsibility for the attacks against WTC and pentagon. :roll:
http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/im ... aces_2.jpg (http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/images/Osama_faces_2.jpg)
ADD
In 1995, someone came out with this Illuminati card game...
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3808/terroristnuker.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/948/pentagonx.jpg)
well...
''Artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use it to hide the truth.''
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Thanks TS and MJAlive...
It's so hard to wake people up to what's going on in this world and to try to show them the message. I don't know if some of you feel this way, but sadly when trying to explain the message behind the hoax or any of the government's wrongdoings against citizens, I feel like I'm talking to brainwashed individuals that are at the point of no return and will never wake up and open their eyes. What is it going to take? If you can't see TRUTH when it stares you in the FACE, then I don't know what else to say. I.E. The aftershock in Haiti a week later almost as big as the initial earthquake? That does not seem natural, more like induced.
Sorry if I'm getting a little too emotional or if I offended anyone. Just my two cents. I hope more people will visit this forum and become more inquisitive about what's happening. God Bless!
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Thanks TS and MJAlive...
It's so hard to wake people up to what's going on in this world and to try to show them the message. I don't know if some of you feel this way, but sadly when trying to explain the message behind the hoax or any of the government's wrongdoings against citizens, I feel like I'm talking to brainwashed individuals that are at the point of no return and will never wake up and open their eyes. What is it going to take? If you can't see TRUTH when it stares you in the FACE, then I don't know what else to say. I.E. The aftershock in Haiti a week later almost as big as the initial earthquake? That does not seem natural, more like induced.
Sorry if I'm getting a little too emotional or if I offended anyone. Just my two cents. I hope more people will visit this forum and become more inquisitive about what's happening. God Bless!
Not offeneded...but.......how would they "induce" an earthquake aftershock that big?
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[ neverlandprincess » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:46 pm
Infinitylady wrote:
Jacksonologist,
They also voted because he was african-american. Sorry, no offense. I too am African American. i didn't vote for this reason. I am not in political parties. Right is right, wrong is wrong for me and do it to make change. There is an article in my area where people are very displeased. He promised that people will see more specifics about the healthcare! one person stated that as of yet, this promise never came to pass. Look what they did behind our backs. People don't go for that healthcare! It will be Worse mistake for all of us...I believe it's another form of depopulation in regards to those who are elderly/those who are sick.
You are right! corruption is definitely not even close!
You are very brave because many african americans wont say that. I have always had an awesome diversity of friends and we are undivided,but suddenly in late 2008 there was a divide...and yes some of my friends were voting for him soley because he was african american, and if you werent, it meant you were racist. I said" if we are all equal and we are one country that has come so far,then why cant we look deeper in this then color? Division and racial bias is just that, wether it be in a negative for a candidate or a positive. They would say "I think he will be a great president"...why? what makes you think so? No one could answer-it was media propelled just like everything else./b]
Yeah, I didn't care what color he was really. I am looking at the moral standards and what is right and what is wrong. Things are starting to whine down. You see it right before when you are start doing your research. What tripped me out is that at the end of the debates the Republicans and Democrats are having dinner and tea together?! Are you serious?!!! :shock: People don't even know this is going. I never had a political party anyway. Anyone would ask me and I told them no! They think I am crazy! :lol:
Yeah! He made history being the first African American presidnent. Okay, but looks what's going on! The powers that be are working the strings here!!
When I told some people in my circle that I wasn't voting for him. They looked me like I was crazy but I didn't care. I knew in my heart! noway!! He is in! But look at what is really going on around us! People will think you a bunch of nuts regardless of your skin color. When I sent out the youtube I didn't get not 1 response, not even a question or anything but it's all good.
There is a saying that I would hear some old folks say...everybody may be your color but not your kind. Sorry, it is what it is.
People are getting tired of being yanked around with mind games now!! I
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Not offeneded...but.......how would they "induce" an earthquake aftershock that big?
Did you read what I wrote? :?
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965&p=61290#p61290 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965&p=61290#p61290)
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THE JACKSONOLOGIST » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:12 pm
B-LIEves wrote:
Thanks TS and MJAlive...
It's so hard to wake people up to what's going on in this world and to try to show them the message. I don't know if some of you feel this way, but sadly when trying to explain the message behind the hoax or any of the government's wrongdoings against citizens,What is it going to take? If you can't see TRUTH when it stares you in the FACE, then I don' I feel like I'm talking to brainwashed individuals that are at the point of no return and will never wake up and open their eyes. t know what else to say. I.E. The aftershock in Haiti a week later almost as big as the initial earthquake? That does not seem natural, more like induced.
Sorry if I'm getting a little too emotional or if I offended anyone. Just my two cents. I hope more people will visit this forum and become more inquisitive about what's happening. God Bless!
B, They are. We all have been affected by it one way or the other but now we have to start reading and start looking at things. This is also why slaves were killed too. Once they learned how to read they were able to escape. Reading waslike a penalty.
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Not offeneded...but.......how would they "induce" an earthquake aftershock that big?
Did you read what I wrote? :?
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965&p=61290#p61290 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965&p=61290#p61290)
NO!! I completely missed that post!!! I will read it now...***runs over to page one***
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Chavez and HAARP.....wow....I know Chavez is a loser but he could be right with this one. I could have sworn that on the news the day of the quake, they said that some military ships were in the nearby waters....just floating there....
This wouldnt suprise me one tiny bit...
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I'm trying to keep up with the posts...sorry I read the other posts incorrectly about the inducing of the earthquake...back to reading haha
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''Chavez is a loser''
No, he is not!
you think that he is 'cause of the media/USA.
@B-LIEves you are welcome.
sorry for any mistake. i was sleeping on laptop :mrgreen:
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@applehead79
:D "“Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom Captain Hook: He’s back”
March is the first month of spring, when earth finally became visible under the snow. (The ice is melting) :idea:
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About NWO issue, I have some thoughts that are killing me lately… I already admitted that I’m not the smartest person around here, so I could be wrong in my thinking, that’s why your opinion about this would be very helpful. I’m not pretending they don’t exist, no, it is obvious that there must be something true about them, but are they as powerful as we might think they are? And if so, obviously they know about our movement and about the awakening campaign about them. There are plenty of vids on the internet regarding this issue. The fact that they didn’t yet use their power in order to stop this phenomenon, tells me that they want us to be aware about them. Why? My only response is: because they want us to be afraid.
Another aspect regards the way we should behave regarding this NOW. What should we actually DO after being aware of their existence and evil actions or future intentions? I believe no one is thinking about a revolution, a war or any kind of violent manifestation.
My opinion about this is the following: the strongest weapon against them is to create a new conduit based on justice, love, faith, unity, positive thinking and feeling. The last think we must do is to let ourselves invaded by fear, hate or revenge. I think you all know by now that bad feelings are only increasing the “shadowed ones’” power and I bet they count on this: becoming aware, people will naturally hate them, fear them and this will already provide them at least half of the victory in this competition. The same thing about their symbols…most of them can be interpreted both in a divine and an evil way. The eye in a pyramid is also a Christian symbol, representing God’s justice and surveillance; it can be seen on most Christian – Orthodox churches above the entrance. The star was already mentioned in this thread…the point is that they are receiving the meaning we choose to give them. If we keep God in our minds and souls, no evil can touch us. And once again: try to self-control your feelings and to reject every negative thought from your mind and any negative feeling from your soul.
Then I can see many of you are debating about politicians, presidents, who to elect next time, health care. IMO the situation is the same every where. Believe me: in those 20 years that passed since the revolution in Romania, we tried everything. We have put our hopes in every promising candidate, we switched every political party one by one. They are all the same. Or do you have information that there are clean persons there with real chances to make decisions? Personally I’ve came to the conclusion that politics is not a bitch, but the devil itself. So I strongly believe that the response to our problems lays anywhere else but in politics. I strongly believe that NWO is allover the politics.
Hugs.
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This is just my own humble little opinion about the whole matter... The reality of it all is that EACH of us have a little "MJ" love within us (some even more than others) or we wouldn't be here at all. I'm sure this has been taken into account by the Jacksons as well. That also means we believers as a whole tend to be more in tune with and actually practicing LOVE, striving to get better at it. That said, it also means that each of us have it within ourselves to make this world a better place with or without MJ at the helm. YOU reading this now have the power within yourself to be a leader just like he does. We all do. So why not Captain your own ship now and set sail on that quest? I have and long before 6/25/09. Why wait for some return date that may or may not ever take place? Do what you can to help heal the world NOW. Sure, IF he returns I will join ranks and follow but with so much pain in this world now as it is, do we really need to wait for the lead doctor to show up to the ER when he's good and ready while in the meantime, the patient quickly slips into certain death? I say no. Become a doctor yourself and do what you can now to save the patient, no matter how grand or little you are capable of giving. Every little bit helps and its the volume that matters most. The delays of the return, i fear, unfortunately also make some question the real sense of urgency in the first place. I don't and hence I'm not waiting for the lead doctor show up. IF and when he catches up, it will be nice to have him around though.
There is no question in my mind that he's alive and well. I know this to be true and won't waste my time explaining or trying to convince others. It serves no real purpose anyway. I've already embarrassed myself enough while they laugh at me when dates come and go and yet still no return. Am I bitter about that? Perhaps a little, but thats what you get for making assumptions anyway. Lesson learned. So I'm no longer in the business of providing MJ alive "hope" and "rescue missions" nor do I attach any significance to ANY dates no matter what kind of numerology significance they may hold. Case in point: the numerology may be right but the surrounding circumstances and background events may not be - even TS states this.
As for hoax believers losing faith that he's alive, I don't think that is the case at all. The balance of evidence to support he's alive is 10 times greater than that of supporting any actual death. Even the blind can see this. No, they are not losing faith in him at all either, they are just tired of playing hide and seek and are moving on with life (maybe that was the plan all along?). I know I have. But that doesn't mean they won't be there for him IF and when he returns. It just means the fish aren't biting right now, no indisputable signs of any "BAM" happening soon, prior return let downs factored in, historical conditioning, etc., so...they are headed back to the dock is all. Fishermen are fishermen for life, not just for a day. When the fish start biting again, they'll be back and perhaps then they can even teach others how to fish as well. So I'm not worried about the size of the army right now, it'll grow gradually (faster if he returns).
I am, however, a little confused by those who criticize others who are more concerned about the date of return versus the message. I know your intention was good and the message true, but do you not understand that for these people, the importance of the date IS the message? As in...WHEN the official message will be revealed. Think about this, please, before being so harsh on those who need to hear it from "THE" source and take into account that we live in a world full of deception and lies (key case in point: media) that has caused so many to be so skeptical. Its not their fault, its the environmental conditioning imposed by our society (ALL of us collectively) that is to blame. Regardless, I think it best to forget about any dates and just focus on the message and plans to "make that change". IF and when the date arrives, it will be a pleasant surprise for us all. Think of it as Christmas Day that is a moving target and never knowing what day of the year it will arrive on. Let's just pray that it does eventually and Santa will finally come see us.
Happy sailing and Bon Voyage!
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Something to think about: what signifficance do you think it has Obama's immage among those of MLK, Mother Theresa, Lady Di etc in the first minutes of TII movie?
@Tiger: Thank you Decoder, your post is awsome, like always...I personally missed them ;)
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Something to think about: what signifficance do you think it has Obama's immage among those of MLK, Mother Theresa, Lady Di etc in the first minutes of TII movie?
@Tiger: Thank you Decoder, your post is awsome, like always...I personally missed them ;)
Well unfortuantly I think that MJ may have seen Obama as a person who promotes peace and unity-or that whole scene set may have been someone elses idea. MJ never took sides in politics because he said that some things were out of mens hands and we couldnt look to men..but he did like Clinton as a person and said so. He probably is or was hopeful about Obama. Or the light man could hvae been projecting important people in history-of which Obama is,wether he is a good one or not.
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Once again, Thank you TS, for your clear and concise words. I have so much respect for what you are doing. You are logical, respectful and honest. There is a logical path to seeing to truth which makes it trustworthy. When the coincidences keep on piling up and each piece slots together like a jigsaw puzzle, it has a strong foundation. It will become, not a case of believing but ofknowing. You are giving a lesson on how to see the truth for ourselves which is the most valuable gift.
For those interested in 911 conspiracy, take a look at this. New American Dollar bills, printed in 1996. There is no way that this is pure coincidence:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMgGC9W-ks8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMgGC9W-ks8)
Seeing is believing...
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Well, first thanks TS for this update it's always good to have some "fresh air". I hope this will help those who begin to loose faith.
I took the time to read all the posts, very interesting, MJalive999 in particular. The New World Order is really powerful but it has this power only because people are not aware and one of its main weapon are the medias. The medias have a so strong anesthetic power on the people that it literaly neutralize all critical sense. This is one of the major problem that we have. A solution would be to make people aware of what's happening and we need something big because it seems that time is running out. The more there will be people awaken the more things will begin to change.. The only fact of being aware of the reality of this world can make all the difference.
Regarding the Obama question I just would like to say that whatever the President is (since JFK) it's not the american citizen who chooses. The elections are just a masquerade to make you believe that you have the choice but in reality you have no choice. Obama is just one more puppet with no self esteem who certainly sold his soul to the devil to obtain this job. Him being black is something that has been manipulated by the Elites to put some credit on them because the american society is still on this black and white racism and they played this card. Obama has alsmot the same team as Bush, no real change. Open your eyes Obama is a puppet, the manipulators, those who have the cards in hands, are behind the curtain.
I really believe that Michael hoaxed his death because some people made everything to silence him. As he couldn't keep what he knew for himself he decided to give a shout to make people AWARE, CONSCIOUS. I really hope this is it because when I learned about all this NWO thing since 9/11 I really wondered how a change would be possible. I wondered who could raise his voice amongst this law of silence. Now I say maybe Michael. All I hope is that he is safe and that his life is not put in danger.
I really wanna take the time to thank Michael for what he's doing. It must be very difficult. Go Michael, we are here for you, with you, whatever happens.
God Bless You All
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Something to think about: what signifficance do you think it has Obama's immage among those of MLK, Mother Theresa, Lady Di etc in the first minutes of TII movie?
Nelson Mandela, not MLK!
well...what do they have in common?
Nobel Peace Prize ;)
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''Chavez is a loser''
No, he is not!
you think that he is 'cause of the media/USA.
@B-LIEves you are welcome.
sorry for any mistake. i was sleeping on laptop :mrgreen:
I think that because Ive read things about him and he always blames the USA for everything. Doesnt seem fair to me....sorry if I offended. Maybe its true, maybe it isnt...not everyone on the planet is full of sweetness and light...
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Something to think about: what signifficance do you think it has Obama's immage among those of MLK, Mother Theresa, Lady Di etc in the first minutes of TII movie?
Nelson Mandela, not MLK!
well...what do they have in common?
Nobel Peace Prize ;)
You are right and I think KO said it was all the nobel peace prize winners...not sure though.
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Hugo Chavez has some pretty remarkable things to say about the US, and although I never liked him (I have friends in Venezuela who told me a lot about his dictatorship) there is a truth in what he is saying and he seems to know very well what he's doing...
Chavez says U.S. occupying Haiti in name of aid
CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez on Sunday accused the United States of using the earthquake in Haiti as a pretext to occupy the devastated Caribbean country and offered to send fuel from his OPEC nation.
WORLD | NATURAL DISASTERS
"I read that 3,000 soldiers are arriving, Marines armed as if they were going to war. There is not a shortage of guns there, my God. Doctors, medicine, fuel, field hospitals, that's what the United States should send," Chavez said on his weekly television show. "They are occupying Haiti undercover."
"On top of that, you don't see them in the streets. Are they picking up bodies? ... Are they looking for the injured? You don't see them. I haven't seen them. Where are they?"
Chavez promised to send as much gasoline as Haiti needs for electricity generation and transport.
Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60G2DW2010011 (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60G2DW2010011)
From the transcripts of Zeitgeist Addendum:
“Venezuela 2002? – Headline
(John Perkins)
“It is interesting to me how this system has continued pretty much the same way for years and years and years, except the economic hit men have gotten better and better and better.
Then we come up with very recently what happened in Venezuela. In 1998, Hugo Chavez gets elected president, following a long line of presidents who’d been very corrupt and basically destroyed the economy of the country. And Chavez was elected amidst all that. Chavez stood up to the United States, and he’d done it primarily by demanding that Venezuelan oil be used to help the Venezuelan people.
Well… we didn’t like that in the United States. So in 2002, a coup was staged which was no question in my mind, in most other peoples minds, that the CIA was behind that coup.
The way that that coup was fomented was very reflective of what Kermit Roosevelt had done in Iran. Of paying people to go out into the streets, to riot, to protest, to say that Chavez was very unpopular. You know, if you can get a few thousand people to do that, Television can make it look like it’s the whole country and things start to mushroom.
Except in the case of Chavez, he was smart enough and the people were so strongly behind him that they overcame it. Which was a phenomenal moment in the history of Latin America.”
(/John Perkins)
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[youtube:3prsvb6a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QtZkT8OBQ[/youtube:3prsvb6a]
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Thanks MJAlive999, I was searching for that video, but couldn't locate it fast enough!
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Wednesday, 20 September 2006, 21:13 GMT 22:13 UK
Chavez tells UN Bush is 'devil'
Venezuela's leader Hugo Chavez has called US President George W Bush "the devil" in a speech at the United Nations General Assembly.
"The devil came here yesterday," he said, referring to Mr Bush's speech on Tuesday. "It still smells of sulphur today," he added.
Read the entire article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5365142.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5365142.stm)
CARACAS, Friday January 22, 2010
The US should talk about military bases in Colombia, says Chávez
Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez said on Friday that the United States must hold talks with the South American countries about the use of Colombian military bases, but he insisted on rejecting the deployment of US troops in the military facilities.
"No matter who the messenger is, what matters is to find a path to dialogue, to discussions ... because we have a lot of doubts about the bases in Colombia and there is a lot of evidence that these are war bases, not for a domestic war, but for an international war," Chavez told journalists early Friday in the Bolivian capital of La Paz, where he planned to attend the second inauguration of his Bolivian counterpart Evo Morales.
The Venezuelan President made these remarks when asked about the possibility that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton could discuss the matter with the member countries of the Union of South American Nations (Unasur).
Source: http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/01/ ... 4251.shtml (http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/01/22/en_pol_esp_the-us-should-talk-a_22A3324251.shtml)
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Thank you, TS!
GUYS!!!
READ ABOUT HAARP!!!! (this is not gold pants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwhege4IuNs but can be the difference between LIFE and DEATH)
I am pretty sure that Haiti earthquake was INDUCED!!! (HAITI FEBRUARY 12/13th. 7.0M)
Just Like CHINA SEA EARTQUAKE on MAY 12/13th 2008. 7.9M http://www.internationalrivers.org/node/3827 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwIadY5FI8
EL SALVADOR on FEBRUARY 13th , 2001 7.7
and maybe CHILE on JUNE 13th, 2005. 7.9
see the NUMBERS! (will vary from site to site, but both earthquake are suspicious)
if you believe Michael is alive! If you say there are no coincidences in his case, maybe you should believe there are NO coincidences too!
The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati.
8 1 1 18 16 = 8-1=7+1=8+18=26+1=27+6=33
H A A R P
More links:
Chavez: US Navy Tectonic Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake http://grantlawrence.blogspot.com/2010/01/chavez-us-navy-tectonic-weapon-test.html
Earthquakes, Tsunami:Man made using HAARP? http://www.qatarliving.com/node/117524
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL could be part of NWO DEPOPULATION PLAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8
UN CLIMATE CHANGE CONFERENCE (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A)
What is depopulation?
Plans are underway now, implemented by the New World Order Elite, to depopulate the planet's 6-7 billion people to a manageable level of between 500 million and 2 billion. but i dont believe. they WILL NOT win! but they are acting ...
disasters such as earthquakes! thousands die immediately, then more die of hunger, disease, violence ...
There are many means and methods of depopulation that are being employed today, the 3 primary of which include; unsustainable/exploitative international development, which leads to massive hunger, starvation and famine worldwide (at least 40 million deaths annually), the fomentation of war, hatred and military procurements throughout the nations leading to millions of deaths worldwide, and finially, the creation and spread of infectious diseases leading to global pandemic, plague and pestilence on an unprecedented scale. http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm (http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm)
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FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency
6 5 13 1 = 6-5=1+13=14-1=13
F E M A
do not expect much from them ...
Katrina And The FEMA Scandal Exposed (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM)
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H1N1
and suddenly the flu appeared in Mexico ...
The epidemiological data is fabricated, falsified and manipulated. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), an epidemic of worldwide proportions now looms and threatens the livelihood of “2 billion people [who] could become infected over the next two years — nearly one-third of the world population.” (World Health Organization as reported by the Western media, July 2009). According to the Obama adminstration, the “swine flu could strike up to 40 percent of Americans … and as many as several hundred thousand could die if a vaccine campaign and other measures aren’t successful.” (Official Statement of the US Administration, Associated Press, 24 July 2009).
These statements serve to mislead public opinion. There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO’s level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the N1H1 swine flu.
The Pandemic serves the interests of Big Pharma. The WHO is planning for the production of 4.9 billion dose, enough to inoculate a large share of the World’s population. Big Pharma including Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca have signed procurement contracts with some 50 governments. (Reuters, July 16, 2009). For these companies, compulsory vaccination is a highly lucrative undertaking http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... -pandemic/ (http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/the-worldwide-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic/)
Michael Jackson Murdered to Protect H1N1 Vaccine & Genocide Plot? http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michae ... ocide-plot (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jackson-murdered-protect-h1n1-vaccine-genocide-plot)
28 Pregnant Women Dead From H1N1 Swine Flu in U.S. http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/ ... -flu-in-us (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091001/28-pregnant-women-dead-from-h1n1-swine-flu-in-us)
Mandatory H1N1 Swine Flu Forced Vaccinations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk) (IMPORTANT: pregnant woman AND kids)
Makers Of Vaccine Refuse To Take H1N1 :roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0)
Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw) Dr. Kent http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf)
Some Pregnant Women Fearful of H1N1 Vaccine http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/ ... ne.htm#gB3 (http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearful-of-h1n1-vaccine.htm#gB3)
Swine Flu Vaccine Deadly To Pregnant Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4)
Deadly ??? so WHY THEY ARE FORCING????
BTW, have fun Dangers of the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... e&rclk=pti (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D857DC651D4D314E&search_query=kids+vaccine&rclk=pti)
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Invincible
This is not about h1n1, but is a 'funny' coincidence involving the number eleven!
I dont know if you know but that Drawing in Invicible (By Uri Geller) was edited!
Original: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover1.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)
Edited: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover2.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)
GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
eleven eleven (Drawn on a napkin at 11:11pm at a hotel in New York City, this remarkable make up of elements and positive symbols are the inner core of Invincible by uri) Uri says that 11:11 is a MAGICAL NUMBER... what is magic for him?? (remember 11 and the 911) and the end of the world Maya calendar at 12-21-2012 11:11 A.M.
According to Illuminati 11:11 is a alarm clock. Uri talks a lot about ...
11/11 - A Christian Perspective Of The New World Order And Illuminati http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html (http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html)
Read Uri explanation: the left of the magnificent eye is a symbol from an outer planet. (He forgot that the EYE is a illuminati symbol); a picture of the Star of David were all removed from the original drawing (Star of David an occult Symbol); A pentagram representing the five elements of the universe: EARTH, AIR, FIRE, WATER and SPIRIT. (To the Wiccan ... :roll: ) http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm (http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm)
Btw, watch ''My friend Michael Jackson'' By Uri ... OMG! He is so FAKE that ..argh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk) energy, hypnosis ...he even tried to cry (no tears, of course)
Unbreakable
Michael wanted Unbreakable to be the first single from Invincible. Sony, however, released You Rock My World and Cry as the first singles. Unbreakable was included in Michael Jackson: The Ultimate Collection. (together with the FABULOUS We've Had Enough).
And we have MJxSONY. But not EXACTLY Sony, the true trouble was Tommy Mottola.
Invicible was a failure in the industry and the media. why?
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby
You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
and I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable
You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I'm a still remain the same,I'm un-brea-ka-ble
Why not Unbreakable to be the first single???
I just need you to know that this is very important what we are fighting for because I am tired really really tired of all the manipulations. I am tired of how the press is manipulating everything ...of this situation, they do not tell the truth... they lie.
They manipulate our history books, the history books are not true, its a lie, the history books are lying, you need to know that, you must know that.
the minute I started breaking the all times records record sales, I broke all time records, I broke Elvis's records, I broke Beatle's records...the minute I made the all time best selling albums in the history of world records...overnight they call me a freak, they called me a homosexual, they called me a child molester, they said I tried to bleach my skin...they said everything to turn the public against me...this all complete complete conspiracy, you have to know this..._ Michael Jackson, Harlem/ 2002.
The same media that called Michael ''King of Pop'' called him ''Wacko Jacko''... and Who is behind the media? (watch V for Vendetta)
Are you REALLY listening to his MESSAGE?
i see much significance in Invincible ... each song! it is like a warning....
CRY ... ;)
WAKE UP FANS!
wake up 'cause maybe ... it's too late ...
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
Did God hear it from me?
Did God hear it from you?
Did God hear it from us?
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
DON'T LET THE IGNORANCE KILL US!
This is all so devastatingly heartbreaking.. It kills me to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. I am ashamed of this world. :/ I only hope it is not too late.. For the innocent who are still sleeping. Its hard hard to get them to see, whats right there in front of their faces.. I do my best to enlighten them, and they look at me as if im sleeping... Grrrrrr... So frustrating...
SOULdier of L.O.V.E
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Obama's pal and Sean Penn's hero. What else did we need to know?
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i, too,have decided to stop speculating about dates. the date is not important,his message is. i am sorry michael for being so anxious to see you again. i know that you want me to focus completely on your message only and i will do so from this moment on. i know you're alive out there somewhere..i can feel you. i believe in you and everything you stand for. i am behind you 100% and i love you.
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I stand corrected..
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@ Ralu:
The eye in a pyramid is also a Christian symbol, representing God’s justice and surveillance; it can be seen on most Christian – Orthodox churches above the entrance.
The eye in the triangle - YES - a Christian symbol.
The eye in the triangle over a pyramid (like on dollar bill) - NO - a masonic symbol.
@ Everyone
I've got a question, a serious one.
If it is the government/ governments which is/are behind all the conspiracies (FEMA, HAARP, 911 etc), and MJ, through his hoax wants to focus our attention on it and unite us against all the evil they produce - how it is possible that right now he is protected by government agencies - CIA? FBI? And other law enforcement officers - as some "informers" state? Or, maybe they are wrong?
@TS
Thanks, for the update. We were really waiting for it. We needed that.
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@ Everyone
I've got a question, a serious one.
If it is the government/ governments which is/are behind all the conspiracies (FEMA, HAARP, 911 etc), and MJ, through his hoax wants to focus our attention on it and unite us against all the evil they produce - how it is possible that right now he is protected by government agencies - CIA? FBI? And other law enforcement officers - as some "informers" state? Or, maybe they are wrong?
is he? i don't think so ...
every US government agency is controlled by the Illuminati. :?
(but of course, not all are bad people)
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[youtube:1byy3vbh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QtZkT8OBQ[/youtube:1byy3vbh]
thanks for this clip
@ ts thanks again for the post...when i seen the tweet i knew what they meant :lol:
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Thank you TS for your very thorough and right on post!
We here do miss Michael so much and part of us wanting him to return is knowing that he is alive and well. But, at the same time, if he is to return, it will happen in his own time. Setting artificial return dates based on others messages, special hoidays, or other important peoples' days is setting believers up for high expectations and eventual disappointments. I knew Michael would not return on MLK day because it is Martin Luther King's Day not MJ's day.
We do need to focus on Michael's message, the possible reasons for the hoax, and be ready for his return, it that is meant to be. I do want to know what happened on June 25th and the events surrounding his "death" and since. I think we are doing a wonderful job finding clues and inconsistencies. For a while, it was like we were getting a clue a day. Now, the clues have subsided, but we should not lose faith or get frustrated.
I will keep the faith and hope and pray that Michael is healthy and doing well. I will pray for the man and for his message and hope that one day we see him again....if and when he is ready to return.
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Thank you, TS!
HI thanks firslty to You TS for what You do and- Your message that Michael's Message is so much more than anything else is so right!! Michael 'Ilove You More!!I truly mean that!!' In Your own time when You are ready!! and meanwhile all us are working together be it in the physical presence of one another, spiritually, mentally , all toward a better world full of L.O.V.E.!! Your powerful all encompassing message!! Love is so powerful and is the cure, for with love and of love, only good can come and gratitude combined for all, is the way forward.
Hi there OMG MJalive999 :D
my mouth fell open with shock You like took the words right out of my mouth, just this week the last few days of... my Mum purchased this magazine here in NZ called 'Uncensored' and the whole entire thing was full absolutely full of all You mentioned and quoted and what Souza and MO as well; and in it researched evidence (hidden ) but discovered.. that outlines everything You said all from the sources !!for anyone interested in this magazine it is made independantly in New Zealand but they ship it everywhere around the world and on line at www.uncensored.co.nz. if You want more info let me know - it's issue 18 . VERY INTERESTING!! it opened my eyes wider still !!!
and upon reading Yours I still can't believe it,
but since learning more and more about it.......
In no means am I quoting anyone when I say any of this, let alone saying what it is MJ is making us aware of, ....but since all this I have come into contact with continuous information all on these same topics- on this site, then this book/mag happens to be given me to read and it's like'the signs are everywhere' we just need to open our eyes,think for ourselves and not be 'a vegetable' or a 'sheeple' going along for the ride we can't wait for someone else to do something - like MJ said in 'TII' we can't wait for them, who's them ? 'we have to do it ( I am aware that I did not quote correctly word for word hence I haven't marked it as a direct quote with" "But I 'got it' the message from it. Now is the time and we can, we can make a difference, for L.O.V.E. is the most powerful thing on earth!! And we all are here in the first place.. for love, love of MJ, bought us together and has united us- many are we and so together we can be the 'force' and the strength to generate this L.O.V.E required, with all our hearts and minds we can give L.O.V.E the power it needs!!
thanks again so much TS and to everyone for without you all and Souza and MO we wouldn't be here, so together we have formed one and are one, one for L.O.V.E!!! and for our love of MJ!!!
all my love take care
Michelle
New Zealand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A)
What is depopulation?
Plans are underway now, implemented by the New World Order Elite, to depopulate the planet's 6-7 billion people to a manageable level of between 500 million and 2 billion. but i dont believe. they WILL NOT win! but they are acting ...
disasters such as earthquakes! thousands die immediately, then more die of hunger, disease, violence ...
There are many means and methods of depopulation that are being employed today, the 3 primary of which include; unsustainable/exploitative international development, which leads to massive hunger, starvation and famine worldwide (at least 40 million deaths annually), the fomentation of war, hatred and military procurements throughout the nations leading to millions of deaths worldwide, and finially, the creation and spread of infectious diseases leading to global pandemic, plague and pestilence on an unprecedented scale. http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm (http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm)
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FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency
6 5 13 1 = 6-5=1+13=14-1=13
F E M A
do not expect much from them ...
Katrina And The FEMA Scandal Exposed (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM)
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H1N1
and suddenly the flu appeared in Mexico ...
The epidemiological data is fabricated, falsified and manipulated. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), an epidemic of worldwide proportions now looms and threatens the livelihood of “2 billion people [who] could become infected over the next two years — nearly one-third of the world population.” (World Health Organization as reported by the Western media, July 2009). According to the Obama adminstration, the “swine flu could strike up to 40 percent of Americans … and as many as several hundred thousand could die if a vaccine campaign and other measures aren’t successful.” (Official Statement of the US Administration, Associated Press, 24 July 2009).
These statements serve to mislead public opinion. There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO’s level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the N1H1 swine flu.
The Pandemic serves the interests of Big Pharma. The WHO is planning for the production of 4.9 billion dose, enough to inoculate a large share of the World’s population. Big Pharma including Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca have signed procurement contracts with some 50 governments. (Reuters, July 16, 2009). For these companies, compulsory vaccination is a highly lucrative undertaking http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... -pandemic/ (http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/the-worldwide-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic/)
Michael Jackson Murdered to Protect H1N1 Vaccine & Genocide Plot? http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michae ... ocide-plot (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jackson-murdered-protect-h1n1-vaccine-genocide-plot)
28 Pregnant Women Dead From H1N1 Swine Flu in U.S. http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/ ... -flu-in-us (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091001/28-pregnant-women-dead-from-h1n1-swine-flu-in-us)
Mandatory H1N1 Swine Flu Forced Vaccinations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk) (IMPORTANT: pregnant woman AND kids)
Makers Of Vaccine Refuse To Take H1N1 :roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0)
Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw) Dr. Kent http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf)
Some Pregnant Women Fearful of H1N1 Vaccine http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/ ... ne.htm#gB3 (http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearful-of-h1n1-vaccine.htm#gB3)
Swine Flu Vaccine Deadly To Pregnant Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4)
Deadly ??? so WHY THEY ARE FORCING????
BTW, have fun Dangers of the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... e&rclk=pti (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D857DC651D4D314E&search_query=kids+vaccine&rclk=pti)
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Invincible
This is not about h1n1, but is a 'funny' coincidence involving the number eleven!
I dont know if you know but that Drawing in Invicible (By Uri Geller) was edited!
Original: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover1.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)
Edited: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover2.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)
GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
eleven eleven (Drawn on a napkin at 11:11pm at a hotel in New York City, this remarkable make up of elements and positive symbols are the inner core of Invincible by uri) Uri says that 11:11 is a MAGICAL NUMBER... what is magic for him?? (remember 11 and the 911) and the end of the world Maya calendar at 12-21-2012 11:11 A.M.
According to Illuminati 11:11 is a alarm clock. Uri talks a lot about ...
11/11 - A Christian Perspective Of The New World Order And Illuminati http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html (http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html)
Read Uri explanation: the left of the magnificent eye is a symbol from an outer planet. (He forgot that the EYE is a illuminati symbol); a picture of the Star of David were all removed from the original drawing (Star of David an occult Symbol); A pentagram representing the five elements of the universe: EARTH, AIR, FIRE, WATER and SPIRIT. (To the Wiccan ... :roll: ) http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm (http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm)
Btw, watch ''My friend Michael Jackson'' By Uri ... OMG! He is so FAKE that ..argh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk) energy, hypnosis ...he even tried to cry (no tears, of course)
Unbreakable
Michael wanted Unbreakable to be the first single from Invincible. Sony, however, released You Rock My World and Cry as the first singles. Unbreakable was included in Michael Jackson: The Ultimate Collection. (together with the FABULOUS We've Had Enough).
And we have MJxSONY. But not EXACTLY Sony, the true trouble was Tommy Mottola.
Invicible was a failure in the industry and the media. why?
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby
You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
and I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable
You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I'm a still remain the same,I'm un-brea-ka-ble
Why not Unbreakable to be the first single???
I just need you to know that this is very important what we are fighting for because I am tired really really tired of all the manipulations. I am tired of how the press is manipulating everything ...of this situation, they do not tell the truth... they lie.
They manipulate our history books, the history books are not true, its a lie, the history books are lying, you need to know that, you must know that.
the minute I started breaking the all times records record sales, I broke all time records, I broke Elvis's records, I broke Beatle's records...the minute I made the all time best selling albums in the history of world records...overnight they call me a freak, they called me a homosexual, they called me a child molester, they said I tried to bleach my skin...they said everything to turn the public against me...this all complete complete conspiracy, you have to know this..._ Michael Jackson, Harlem/ 2002.
The same media that called Michael ''King of Pop'' called him ''Wacko Jacko''... and Who is behind the media? (watch V for Vendetta)
Are you REALLY listening to his MESSAGE?
i see much significance in Invincible ... each song! it is like a warning....
CRY ... ;)
WAKE UP FANS!
wake up 'cause maybe ... it's too late ...
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
Did God hear it from me?
Did God hear it from you?
Did God hear it from us?
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
DON'T LET THE IGNORANCE KILL US!
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je t aime tiai mais j en vois plus le bout la dossier sous fichier, sous sous fichier j ai meme pas le temps de lire ce que j ai fait en france on a du retard par rapport a vous ne l oublie pas s il te plait lol, j ai meme pas fini de faire les details des parties tiai moi je suis qu a la troisieme parties arretez de mettre des sous liens j en peux plus lol que dieu vous benisse bisous de normandie france un vrai labyrhinte
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This post was a waste of time.
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WORLD TREMBLES AS US PREPARES NEW QUAKE TEST
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1325.htm (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1325.htm)
A most grim report from Russian Space Forces (VKS) monitoring the United States High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is warning today that the Americans are preparing for another potentially devastating earthquake test on a scale comparable to the one that destroyed the Caribbean island Nation of Haiti, and which we had previously reported on in our January 14th report titled “US Quake Test Goes “Horribly Wrong”, Leaves 500,000 Dead In Haiti”
The reason for this new American quake test, these reports say, is due to the ‘catastrophic failure’ of their previous ones that have so destabilized our Earth’s inner magnetosphere that more earthquakes have been reported in the past 30-days then in the first 90-days of 2009 (including over 600 alone at the potentially catastrophic Yellowstone volcanic caldron) and that have caused more loss of life than in the previous 5-years all put together.
For the purposes of the Americans conducting these most dangerous of quake tests, these reports continue, is for their use against the Persian Nation of Iran which the United States Military has concluded can only be destroyed by a ‘severe disruption’ to their society caused by a massive earthquake which would leave the Iranians with ‘no excuse’ to retaliate against the West.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, so far, has been the only World leader calling on the United States to immediately stop the testing of these catastrophic earthquake weapons and has accused the Americans of “playing God”.
Yellowstone Caldera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera)
The last full-scale eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano, the Lava Creek eruption which happened nearly 640,000 years ago, ejected approximately 240 cubic miles (1000 cubic kilometres) of rock and dust into the sky.
Geologists are closely monitoring the rise and fall of the Yellowstone Plateau, which averages ±0.6 inches (about ±1.5 cm) yearly, as an indication of changes in magma chamber pressure.
The upward movement of the Yellowstone caldera floor—almost 3 inches (7 centimeters) each year for the past three years—is more than three times greater than ever observed since such measurements began in 1923. From mid-Summer 2004 through mid-Summer 2008, the land surface within the caldera has moved upwards, as much as 8 inches at the White Lake GPS station. The U.S. Geological Survey, University of Utah and National Park Service scientists with the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory maintain that they "see no evidence that another such cataclysmic eruption will occur at Yellowstone in the foreseeable future. Recurrence intervals of these events are neither regular nor predictable."
YELLOWSTONE SUPERVOLCANO GETTING READY TO BLOW ITS CORK
http://www.earthmountainview.com/yellow ... wstone.htm (http://www.earthmountainview.com/yellowstone/yellowstone.htm)
A Haiti Disaster Relief Scenario Was Envisaged by the US Military One Day Before the Earthquake
http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-Hait ... 2-347.html (http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-Haiti-Disaster-Relief-Sc-by-Michel-Chossudovsk-100122-347.html)
HAARP Poses Global Threat
http://www.bariumblues.com/haarp_geophysical_weapon.htm (http://www.bariumblues.com/haarp_geophysical_weapon.htm)
The use of the new geophysical weapon might lead to the global catastrophe
A lot of specialists and scientists believe that unpredictable natural disasters and several man-caused catastrophes that struck Europe and Asia in the summer of the year 2002 say that there might be certain global reasons that caused them all. First and foremost, it goes about a possibility of secret geophysical weapon tests.
It is well known that the USA and the USSR concluded an agreement at the end of the 1970s. Pursuant to the agreement, scientific developments in the field of geophysics for military purposes were banned. All the works in the field became secret too. However, the works continued anyway, despite the signed document. It was simply conducted under the disguise of the scientific research or the development of the double-purpose technology. The point and the purpose of those developments were rather vague and even mysterious.
A lot of specialists and scientists believe that a special American program HAARP is one of those developments. American scientist Bernard Eastlund is considered to be the godfather of this program. He received the patent for the method and for the device to measure the layers of the Earth atmosphere, the ionosphere and/or the magnetosphere. It is an open secret that the USA (probably, not the USA alone) has already constructed high-frequency transmitter facilities.
WHAT THE FUC* IS GOING ON? :|
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You're buying into every dooms day theory on the internet I guess.
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You're buying into every dooms day theory on the internet I guess.
maybe michael being alive is just a theory :)
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HI sorry me again !! please forgive.;
but after reading more of everyone's posts I felt it maybe okay to put this part of my original post on here , as I didn't want to offend people being from New Zealand and US being home for some of You.. but like has been said here on site- all of it this magazine covered it all and moreand it breaks my heart to think firstly all the people suffering and who have suffered at the hands of these evil plans and then also that for years and still are we are all getting lead up the garden path full of lies lies lies!! but the parts I didn't want to offend by were to do with the 911 JFK and Obama, as I too thought he a great elected president, then one time ages ago after reading on an MJ hoax site re Illumanati etc U googled it and it had President Obama on as one of the NWO but still I this site said conspiracy etc not proof ... then in this mag it said he and his Mother were part of CIA ( I mean no disrepect to them I am merely quoting from Mag) and his original job was a cover for CIA etc Hi there OMG MJalive999 like You mentioned credits to YOU
! and upon reading Yours I still can't believe it, right down to how wars, famines, are engineered and VACCINES etc are contaminated biowarfare to kill off depopulate the planet and this plan has been in effect for years, right back... they have quoted documents about it direct from the people, most trust, ie. government etc all things to Religions connected to governments joining together to form One World government. And it went onto describe like You say earth quakes can be engineered by scientists in labs setting off electro maganetic waves and like YOu after reading that I thought OMG this earthquake in Haiti suffering and others like it man made to ???and also like floods and that they play with the weather so called to save the planet from the sun?? but while they sell us smokescreens of things to better the planet.
I think we need to think more and look more closely at what we are being told or should it be 'sold'??? Like many things there could be double meanings what they want us to see and what is the truth.
Apparently there are scientists in labs that can set of any so called 'natural disaster' and in the Depopulate agenda it has been said by those 'oweprs' at be that they want the population to be 90% less than what it is now so only 10% of what we are and only 'good grade' humans to be allowed to conceive and be bearers of children.... I could go on so sorry to everyone!! right down to what Souza and MO wrote about the connections of different well known deaths/assasinations, as in this mag they quote proof that JFK murdered who by, the exact people seemingly behind everything else, and because he changed an evil policy etc ..
Also proof abut 911 conspiracy and one point of interest was a BBC reporter was talking about Tower 7 being blown up and it was still standing behind her and her report was about 24/26 minutes too early.. so how she would know?? in advance to make this detailed live report when no & stil stood and id so for over 20mins after.....
MJalive999...
And like You I have gone back through MJ's songs and restudied /listened to the words many speak and like You 'CRY" as well, for me'Cry' now keeps standing out to me everytime I listne to "Invincible' which is all the time, 'CRY' seems to stand out for me as the message for now from MJ , as it is about truth being hidden etc and that he can't do it alone, he needs help, our help!!
but since learning more and more about it.......
In no means am I quoting anyone when I say any of this, let alone saying what it is MJ is making us aware of, ....but since all this I have come into contact with continuous information all on these same topics- on this site, now it seems taht many of us are learning similar things, the word is spreading. The big players who think they have wons and are continuing to win, won't like the general public becoming aware and in this mag this article by a lady Stephanie R. Pasco, published on http://www.infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com), very clear evidence for the 'The Move to De-populate the Planet' August 27, 2009 and she at the end is actually begging pleading that this article and info in it to get spread for all to know the truth 'please spread everywhere you can . Email it , blog it, post it on forums, mail it . Do what You must . People are asleep. They must be woken up.Forced immunizations are right around the corner. These things will come to pass. It is our job to warn people. Please I ask you, warn them' that was her quote right at the very end of her article , so I urge You on her behalf and that of our world read it and spread it , and I alos read what someone wrote re they must know that we all are onto them and are spreading the word and an awareness is happening and we aren't gonna be fooled no more and I agree with You that fear is what they want us to feel and to be afraid, look at what happened after 9/11... people were so afraid, scared to fly, etc and looked to the governement etc to protect them, and like a movie with two meanings, one that can be understood by children and then the adult overtones that make the very same story great for adults, so too for eg. 9/11 happens, the world becomes very fearful and afraid , puts all their trust in governments to protect them(us) and fear certain nationalities why?? smokescreens?? but at the very same time they are putting in place all these extreme security measures that if You look at it in a different light is robbing us of our privacy and every detail of us is known to them , why ?? because 'just incase a terrorist lurks within us, and security cameras and cameras everywhere , and many other 'safety practices' all the while the 'Powers At Be ' are getting more and more info on every living individual to use against us for their benefit and the saying 'big brother is watching' well this couldn't be more true today, and we have all willingly given of this precious information, we talk of people stealing our identities to commit fraud, well what bigger fraud is going on than this major happening taking place right before our very eyes ..lives, robbing us of what is precious and unique about every single being on this planet!! So please also take care everyone, be strong, be safe and spread L.O.V.E. !!!!
'the signs are everywhere' we just need to open our eyes,think for ourselves and not be 'a vegetable' or a sheeple going along for the ride we can't wait for someone else to do something - THE TIME IS NOW! AND IT'S UP TO US!!!
(for anyone interested in this magazine it is made independantly in New Zealand but they ship it everywhere around the world and on line at http://www.uncensored.co.nz (http://www.uncensored.co.nz). if You want more info let me know - it's issue 18 . VERY INTERESTING!! it opened my eyes wider still)
Much much love, peace, compassion, and light and a reality of L.O.V.E for one and all!!!!
all my love and hugs .... We are the world!! lets fight the good fight, for freedom for our rights and those that cannot speak for themselves .. the message is L.O.V.E it's time to stand up and be counted !!
"I Love You More" MJ!! You are truly the most amazing human -being and we the world are so very lucky to have You!! take care and please know that You are loved so loved!!! I send You so much love, light, strength and peace!!! and too You and Your family and friends!!! Also to everyone here and thank You 'We are Family' united in L.O.V.E!! :D
all my love and take care and thanks everyone here !!
much love
Michelle :D
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Dear TS
You had me at "TIAI Update #2" !! he he he.....
On a serious note - thank you TS for your help in allowing us to open our mind, eyes, and ears and to really heed Michael's message. I followed TIAI from its very beginning. I am doing the best I can to pass it on to my family and friends and to make them aware of the bigger picture in Michael's message.
I never considered that Michael would really come back on Martin Luther King Day....especially when you had the Return in " " quotation marks. Nor had I thought he would return on Christmas day or at New Years...they were all a bit too obvious for a man who loves the art of distraction and illusion. I did see the Tweet on the 18th January from the Jackson Brothers and I actually did read into it that they were cryptically acknowledging the "hoax"...so it gave me some solace to know that something did really get "revealed" on January 18th in a very subtle but quite significant way I think. As you said in your update - none of the aspects of the hoax over the past 7 months have changed, there are all still the same facts that we have always known about.
However, I must admit, although I have not been losing faith that Michael is alive, I was becoming quite confused and a little dazed at all the information being thrown at us from various "informers". It's been a long 7 months. Your update helped me see through all that. Thank you very much! I know we will never know when "it" will be, because we aren't meant to. We just have to believe that Michael will and understand what he has done and the reason for it.
As many here have said it's all about the "why" of what Michael has done, not about the return. I understand Michael's message so clearly now and really I know he will make his return when he is ready and we won't know anything about it until he does.
Thank you TS/STUDY and thank you Michael Jackson!!!
With LOVE
Adi
xxx
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@Michelle WilkieNZ, maybe i am paranoid but ... CRY:
Somebody shakes when the wind blows
Somebody's missing a friend, hold on
Somebody's lacking a hero
And they have not a clue
When it's all gonna end
Stories buried and untold
Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
When will this mystery unfold
You can change the world (I can't do it by myself) (Me, You and Them ...)
You can touch the sky (Gonna take somebody's help)
You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign) (now?XD)
If we all cry at the same time tonight (insane but sounds like: june 25, 2009)
Faces fill with madness
Miracles unheard of, hold on
Faith is found in the winds
All we have to do
Is reach for the truth
Change the world
and the video clip ... without michael! JUST LIKE we are now!
He is 'signing' and we from all over world, Holding Hands.searching for the hidden truth. ''reach for the truth'' ... and Trying to Change the World!
*hides in a hole*
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maybe michael being alive is just a theory :)
I hope not cuz If that is true or has any truth to it then his death is being used in a cleverly genius way to manipulate people just like the media or whoever you want to fill in the blank with______.
My rambling thoughts...
I have to say when I heard MJ died I really thought he died and was saddened for his kids and what this world did to him. Even though I felt someting wasn't right. It wasn't until I saw the Movie TII that I left there believing he was alive. I sat there thinking I can't be the only one noticing these things in this movie. I left there not only thinking about the movie but also all the odd things I had noticed before Michael "died" I just figured something had to be off. Shortly after that I happened upon some hoax ideas/videos on the internet and loved that I wasn't the only one thinking this way. I have to say there is nothing then and nothing now that will convince me that he isn't alive. No matter what is put out there or not.
I don't know why Michael would hoax his death and I honestly believe that can only be confirmed by Michael himself.
So I can understand people's waivering faith and disappointment because over these last few months they have been ardently following and searching for hope and information. Hoping someone they cared about wasn't done wrong AGAIN while clinging to their hope and unwittingly cradeling their fears. There are many out there that have heard of the NWO, Illuminati etc and who discuss it often, but for most whether you are trying to uncover a truth or unblock someones eyes they naturally cling to what they know, what makes them feel safe. They can't jump into these ideas quickly. Not when they think of their children or their world being turned upside down or for some, sleeping another peaceful night. Many if not (unknowingly) all would probably need that confirmation from the man himself in order to start to believe. To hear and know what he's been put through in his own words. If indeed that is the reason. Even for those who know or believe in the NWO... and all the topics mentioned it is still hard to wrap your mind around all of it. Those who can wrap their mind around it usually do so with anger. Which is just another clever face of fear. You can't change anything with fear and it is hard for people to break out of that mode when their idea of life is being threatened. You can't rebuke them for not fully believing that is the reason Michael did this. Just as they can't rebuke you if you believe it is why he did it, because we each have our own beliefs. I'm not sure that I believe Michaels idea behind the hoax is all that is mentioned in the TIAI reveals..honestly that is hard to fathom. One man taking on all that...God Bless him because that burden must be overwhelming. It's not only, that but I don't believe in the end of the world nor do I fear it. I have alot of hope for this world it's people and it's choices. I have faith, but am still not blind to all that goes on in this world.
Do I think it's impossible that all that is mentioned in the TIAI reveals is the reason he did this? Nothing is impossible! i mean imagine the totality of it, the process, the planning, the stress in the plot to fake ones death it must have a huge toll on ones body, mind and spirit. Will it be worth the climax. Will it all go well in then end, I hope so. What I think about the most with Michael, this whole thing and what I wish for any human being is their safety, that they feel loved and important, and they feel supported. Like I said before I believe he is alive and I support him/that. Beyond that I'll take it as it comes. <3
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*takes her out of the hole*
This is beautifull. "Cry" gives me shivers down my spine.
I used to think that this lyric is clear and direct, even self-explanative. But when you said:
"If we all cry at the same time tonight (insane but sounds like: june 25, 2009)" is just... :o wow! Michael have been in my life for 31 years and I didn't realized about this quote! Since you just appointed it, it just became so obvious that now I am ashamed of my blindness...
*quickly digs a no-ending hole and hides herself* :oops:
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maybe michael being alive is just a theory :)
I hope not cuz If that is true or has any truth to it then his death is being used in a cleverly genius way to manipulate people just like the media or whoever you want to fill in the blank with______.
Of Course i was being ironic, my dear!
I KNOW that michael is alive since the beginning! Neither when the media shook my nerves with ''Music & Me'' or/and ''Ben'' I felt that he was dead.
*takes her out of the hole*
This is beautifull. "Cry" gives me shivers down my spine.
I used to think that this lyric is clear and direct, even self-explanative. But when you said:
"If we all cry at the same time tonight (insane but sounds like: june 25, 2009)" is just... :o wow! Michael have been in my life for 31 years and I didn't realized about this quote! Since you just appointed it, it just became so obvious that now I am ashamed of my blindness...
*quickly digs a no-ending hole and hides herself* :oops:
Thank you XD
(btw, i KNOW this song is written by R. Kelly..buuuuuut ... we are talking about MJ XD)
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Thank you TS for stating your truth quietly and clearly. When I read your words I am reminded of this passage from the Bible...
1 Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is LOVE.[/b]
To me this is the Michael's Message in a nutshell. It's ALL for love.
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Thank you so much Michael for opening my eyes! I had thought that I was a smart one but after the things that you made me realize, I understood how stupid I was. You made me aware of the lies going on in the media, you showed me the evil powers that threatens not only you but also all of us; the humanity, you made me look at everything carefully and to think twice. This was a total AWAKENING for me! Now I'm smarter, stronger, more careful, more sensitive and more conscious! I can easily say that I'm a better human that is capable of many great things. I'm spreading your message everyone I know! NOW I HAVE THE POWER TO BEAT THE EVIL SINCE I KNOW WHO MY ENEMY IS and HOW I CAN DEFEAT THEM! Thank you so much my leader, my commander, my guide, my King! YOUR ARMY OF L.O.V.E IS READY TO FIGHT and SPREAD LOVE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD! God Bless You and thank you TS!
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Thank you TS for stating your truth quietly and clearly. When I read your words I am reminded of this passage from the Bible...
1 Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is LOVE.[/b]
To me this is the Michael's Message in a nutshell. It's ALL for love.
Amen to that! Thank you for posting this - it's a great reminder.
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Thank you TS for the update.
I'm sitting here totally stunned at what has been posted!
I am not a person that believes everything she reads so some of this I am aware of.
MJalive999 certainly added some incredible posts to make the mind work to overload. Some of it scared the crap out of me!!!
I thank both of you!!!
I am 100% beside you MJ. I continue to hold on to what I felt on June 25th, that it was all a lie, and that feeling deepened with each day following, I'm still feeling it.
Our eyes are open and our hearts are strong, we are all here for you my dear.
I believe even some of the non-believers that have actually peeked in this forum may have a deep down hope about our beliefs. If they love him they will re-think what they have been told. I think the "Army of LOVE" is much bigger than we think. Some may think we are unable to accept but just wait, something is going to happen. Something that will be so amazing that more LOVE will grow out of the shock. It will be big.
I am waiting, I am patient. I have been sick for many months now and I am going to get better, (too many complications to list) I am going to be able to dance in the streets for joy when the world does!!
I LOVE you Michael with all my heart!!!
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Hi there :D
I so hope I did not offend anyone and with writing about CRY I hope that didn't either, I am not sure I understand properly your reply to me, 'MJalive999' :) so very sorry not at all meaning to be rude , or anything I mean to understand, and I jsut wondered if You could explain to me the ol' dummy here, thanks a million and I truly admoire everything You are writing , you seem to be on the same page !!! thanka a million again
and to everyone , much love light and peace and to You MJ 'I Love You more'
take care all love and hugs
Michelle :D
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Look dude, I seriously dont think the hoax has anything at all to do with the illuminati.....C'mon guys! MJ is of course THE big daddy of entertainment, and whatever he says holds a lotta importance, But 1 man or a dozen men cannot change the whole world single handedly......What about all the armies of all the nations?! They will have to fight'em wont they?
World Domination is not a joke....But it certainly is THE most elusive goal to chase. One that many have chased before.....with little success.
I'd like to believe that there are more relevant reasons to hoax his death.Like to expose the scandal hungry face of the media. 8-)
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Look dude, I seriously dont think the hoax has anything at all to do with the illuminati.....C'mon guys! MJ is of course THE big daddy of entertainment, and whatever he says holds a lotta importance, But 1 man or a dozen men cannot change the whole world single handedly......What about all the armies of all the nations?! They will have to fight'em wont they?
World Domination is not a joke....But it certainly is THE most elusive goal to chase. One that many have chased before.....with little success.
I'd like to believe that there are more relevant reasons to hoax his death.Like to expose the scandal hungry face of the media. 8-)
Maybe you should have another look at the video CRY and listen to the lyrics
http://de.sevenload.com/sendungen/Micha ... ackson-Cry (http://de.sevenload.com/sendungen/Michael-Jackson-King-of-Pop/folgen/pntZDZd-Michael-Jackson-Cry)
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Thank you, TS!
GUYS!!!
READ ABOUT HAARP!!!! (this is not gold pants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwhege4IuNs but can be the difference between LIFE and DEATH)
I am pretty sure that Haiti earthquake was INDUCED!!! (HAITI FEBRUARY 12/13th. 7.0M)
Just Like CHINA SEA EARTQUAKE on MAY 12/13th 2008. 7.9M http://www.internationalrivers.org/node/3827 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BwIadY5FI8
EL SALVADOR on FEBRUARY 13th , 2001 7.7
and maybe CHILE on JUNE 13th, 2005. 7.9
see the NUMBERS! (will vary from site to site, but both earthquake are suspicious)
if you believe Michael is alive! If you say there are no coincidences in his case, maybe you should believe there are NO coincidences too!
The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati.
8 1 1 18 16 = 8-1=7+1=8+18=26+1=27+6=33
H A A R P
More links:
Chavez: US Navy Tectonic Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake http://grantlawrence.blogspot.com/2010/01/chavez-us-navy-tectonic-weapon-test.html
Earthquakes, Tsunami:Man made using HAARP? http://www.qatarliving.com/node/117524
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL could be part of NWO DEPOPULATION PLAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8
UN CLIMATE CHANGE CONFERENCE (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A)
What is depopulation?
Plans are underway now, implemented by the New World Order Elite, to depopulate the planet's 6-7 billion people to a manageable level of between 500 million and 2 billion. but i dont believe. they WILL NOT win! but they are acting ...
disasters such as earthquakes! thousands die immediately, then more die of hunger, disease, violence ...
There are many means and methods of depopulation that are being employed today, the 3 primary of which include; unsustainable/exploitative international development, which leads to massive hunger, starvation and famine worldwide (at least 40 million deaths annually), the fomentation of war, hatred and military procurements throughout the nations leading to millions of deaths worldwide, and finially, the creation and spread of infectious diseases leading to global pandemic, plague and pestilence on an unprecedented scale. http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm (http://www.rense.com/general64/pordc.htm)
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FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency
6 5 13 1 = 6-5=1+13=14-1=13
F E M A
do not expect much from them ...
Katrina And The FEMA Scandal Exposed (u MUST see) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM)
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H1N1
and suddenly the flu appeared in Mexico ...
The epidemiological data is fabricated, falsified and manipulated. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), an epidemic of worldwide proportions now looms and threatens the livelihood of “2 billion people [who] could become infected over the next two years — nearly one-third of the world population.” (World Health Organization as reported by the Western media, July 2009). According to the Obama adminstration, the “swine flu could strike up to 40 percent of Americans … and as many as several hundred thousand could die if a vaccine campaign and other measures aren’t successful.” (Official Statement of the US Administration, Associated Press, 24 July 2009).
These statements serve to mislead public opinion. There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO’s level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the N1H1 swine flu.
The Pandemic serves the interests of Big Pharma. The WHO is planning for the production of 4.9 billion dose, enough to inoculate a large share of the World’s population. Big Pharma including Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca have signed procurement contracts with some 50 governments. (Reuters, July 16, 2009). For these companies, compulsory vaccination is a highly lucrative undertaking http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/0 ... -pandemic/ (http://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/the-worldwide-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic/)
Michael Jackson Murdered to Protect H1N1 Vaccine & Genocide Plot? http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michae ... ocide-plot (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jackson-murdered-protect-h1n1-vaccine-genocide-plot)
28 Pregnant Women Dead From H1N1 Swine Flu in U.S. http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/ ... -flu-in-us (http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20091001/28-pregnant-women-dead-from-h1n1-swine-flu-in-us)
Mandatory H1N1 Swine Flu Forced Vaccinations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h8j3j_yGrk) (IMPORTANT: pregnant woman AND kids)
Makers Of Vaccine Refuse To Take H1N1 :roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0)
Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw) Dr. Kent http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kent-holtorf)
Some Pregnant Women Fearful of H1N1 Vaccine http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/ ... ne.htm#gB3 (http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearful-of-h1n1-vaccine.htm#gB3)
Swine Flu Vaccine Deadly To Pregnant Woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjlMPf6hPK4)
Deadly ??? so WHY THEY ARE FORCING????
BTW, have fun Dangers of the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... e&rclk=pti (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D857DC651D4D314E&search_query=kids+vaccine&rclk=pti)
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Invincible
This is not about h1n1, but is a 'funny' coincidence involving the number eleven!
I dont know if you know but that Drawing in Invicible (By Uri Geller) was edited!
Original: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover1.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover1.gif)
Edited: http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/imag ... cover2.gif (http://site.uri-geller.com/uploads/images/white_house_glass_house_/cover2.gif)
GOD; Jerusalem(according to the bible, the battle between GOD and Satan will be in Megiddo (Armageddon);
USA (...interesting 'cause many people believe that Obama is the Antichrist, and according to the bible the Antichrist is who will establish a "false peace" on earth (well, he is ''saving'' the world, isnt?? and don't forget his Nobel Peace Prize for...NOTHING) but see USA today ... The Obama Deception - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw) ! He was the HOPE for A better world... WAS... he is just a puppet! Obama, Bush..same sh*t. Sheep in Disguise;
eleven eleven (Drawn on a napkin at 11:11pm at a hotel in New York City, this remarkable make up of elements and positive symbols are the inner core of Invincible by uri) Uri says that 11:11 is a MAGICAL NUMBER... what is magic for him?? (remember 11 and the 911) and the end of the world Maya calendar at 12-21-2012 11:11 A.M.
According to Illuminati 11:11 is a alarm clock. Uri talks a lot about ...
11/11 - A Christian Perspective Of The New World Order And Illuminati http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html (http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/newworldorder.html)
Read Uri explanation: the left of the magnificent eye is a symbol from an outer planet. (He forgot that the EYE is a illuminati symbol); a picture of the Star of David were all removed from the original drawing (Star of David an occult Symbol); A pentagram representing the five elements of the universe: EARTH, AIR, FIRE, WATER and SPIRIT. (To the Wiccan ... :roll: ) http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm (http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm)
Btw, watch ''My friend Michael Jackson'' By Uri ... OMG! He is so FAKE that ..argh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGF-6ruuRgk) energy, hypnosis ...he even tried to cry (no tears, of course)
Unbreakable
Michael wanted Unbreakable to be the first single from Invincible. Sony, however, released You Rock My World and Cry as the first singles. Unbreakable was included in Michael Jackson: The Ultimate Collection. (together with the FABULOUS We've Had Enough).
And we have MJxSONY. But not EXACTLY Sony, the true trouble was Tommy Mottola.
Invicible was a failure in the industry and the media. why?
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby
You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
and I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable
You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I'm a still remain the same,I'm un-brea-ka-ble
Why not Unbreakable to be the first single???
I just need you to know that this is very important what we are fighting for because I am tired really really tired of all the manipulations. I am tired of how the press is manipulating everything ...of this situation, they do not tell the truth... they lie.
They manipulate our history books, the history books are not true, its a lie, the history books are lying, you need to know that, you must know that.
the minute I started breaking the all times records record sales, I broke all time records, I broke Elvis's records, I broke Beatle's records...the minute I made the all time best selling albums in the history of world records...overnight they call me a freak, they called me a homosexual, they called me a child molester, they said I tried to bleach my skin...they said everything to turn the public against me...this all complete complete conspiracy, you have to know this..._ Michael Jackson, Harlem/ 2002.
The same media that called Michael ''King of Pop'' called him ''Wacko Jacko''... and Who is behind the media? (watch V for Vendetta)
Are you REALLY listening to his MESSAGE?
i see much significance in Invincible ... each song! it is like a warning....
CRY ... ;)
WAKE UP FANS!
wake up 'cause maybe ... it's too late ...
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
Did God hear it from me?
Did God hear it from you?
Did God hear it from us?
We can't take it
We've already had enough
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
DON'T LET THE IGNORANCE KILL US!
Extremely well put MJAlive999, I wholeheartedly second your post! Thank you!
Totally agree
Thank you MJAlive999
For those who have not been through the above material it is well worth the time and effort, there is much to be learnt from researching into the above subjects.
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Hi everyone.
I wish to write this to everyone here and for all whom I mentioned in my replies on this blog. In no way were the things I wrote my own opinions , just what I have read over the past few days and I flet compelled to share them when I read what else was written on this site and as it was similar info I wanted to show support and taht I to had read things , I got swept along with the flow of it all. But after writing it aa while later it dawned on me.. why when I have only read these things passed them on, I know I did it from a good place in my heart, as I felt I should help inform and pass on what I read, to help make a contribution to save the world from all harm; but upon reflection I thought hang on a minute what am I doing, I am jsut writing things down that i have read , these are not my own opinions and how am I to know the truth?? I don't know what to believe but all this information overwhelmed and astounded me and I got empassioned to 'save the world'....but then I thought I don't want to be like the many media that have written and said all the things about MJ, of which we know are lies, and here I had written stuff I had only read , as scary and overwhelming as it is , I have feel I have to take back what I wrote and apologise to all whom were mentioned etc as I was not writing my own belief's and opinions, but those of others, and I truly am here for only one reason for MJ and everyone and to help MJ spead his message of L.O.V.E and be on board his side to stand by him and for him and all he stands for . As he is one person whom I know I trust with all my heart and I love More than anything, so upon relection I am very sorry if I offended anyone with what I previously wrote and I take it all back as I feel it isn't my own opinions and believ's and I don't want it to be seen as such, and I stand here side by side with all You good people and I want to just focus on the positive message that MJ is giving us and that is L.O.V.E and help spread it throughout the world, because no matter what L.O.V.E conquers all and the power of it is so amazing and that is what I know can make a difference, it's all the positive energy and light that gives L.O.V.E the power it has and if we are all focused in the message of it then we will Heal The World and Save our Planet!! And for this and more I thank You MJ from the bottom of my heart for making us all aware and giving the wake up call !! You are truly one amazing human being and 'I love you More ' I mean that from the bottom of my heart !! and to everyone here I thank You too!! I so enjoy all the feeling if togetherness and union we all have, united in one cause and that is for MJ and to help MJ "heal the world and spead his message throughout the world!! For unconditional L.O.V.E is the most powerful thing and is the greatest gift we can give MJ and the world!!
all my love, light, peace and gratitude to You all and You too MJ !!
much love and take care
Michelle WilkieNZ :)
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Thank you TS for stating your truth quietly and clearly. When I read your words I am reminded of this passage from the Bible...
1 Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is LOVE.[/b]
To me this is the Michael's Message in a nutshell. It's ALL for love.
AMEN :!: Love is patient :!:
This is what we need to be ;)
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You know? Thanks to our 7 month investigation, thanks to TIAI, thanks to everything I've learned about Michael I can see that I completely changed my way of perceiving the world! I feel like I was asleep all my life, and I finally opened my eyes! Example: Today, I was at the National Museum at my country, I watched an exhibition of paintings and I gazed at the paintings almost with open mouth! I finally was able to appreciate the true magic art was! I wondered how Michael would react - well, that's obvious - he would be delighted! I was delighted, too! I almost looked with his eyes on it! This was amazing! I realized how much effort, thoughts, time, talent was put in these paintings! I never really bothered about it... Now, I saw the man, the artist behind his art. His feelings, what he wanted to convey to us through his art...
Did I become more sensitive thanks to Michael? I think yes.
I left the Muzeum and I saw a homeless man... Very poor. He wasn't begging for anything, he was just walking... his face was so sad... I almost jumped out of myself and wanted to give him some money... but I realised I actually had no money in my wallet at that particular moment... So I had to withdraw... But this feeling was so strong... I never experienced that before...
Just wanted to share... :oops:
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Thank you so much, TS.
One more absolutely right post at the right time. i have to admit that even myself who I trully beleive that Mike is alive, I have my moments of weakness, what if...?
But as I have said before and I won't get tired to say it...
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DATES !
PLEASE , MICHAEL, BE SAFE AND HEALTHY AND DO WHATEVER GOD ENLIGHTENED YOU TO DO .
I WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU !
WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, MY SWEETHEART !
I am with you I DONT CARE about the dates even though my family thinks I should be commited lol. I tell them "Wait and See" and go on to deliver his message.
As long as He is safe and Alive I dont care when he returns his message is serious enough for Him to create this "death" then why return before achievement of the goal?
Thank you again TS.
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Mjaalive thank you again. I'm going to print it and read it at home. My God, a lot of work to do...
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You know? Thanks to our 7 month investigation, thanks to TIAI, thanks to everything I've learned about Michael I can see that I completely changed my way of perceiving the world! I feel like I was asleep all my life, and I finally opened my eyes! Example: Today, I was at the National Museum at my country, I watched an exhibition of paintings and I gazed at the paintings almost with open mouth! I finally was able to appreciate the true magic art was! I wondered how Michael would react - well, that's obvious - he would be delighted! I was delighted, too! I almost looked with his eyes on it! This was amazing! I realized how much effort, thoughts, time, talent was put in these paintings! I never really bothered about it... Now, I saw the man, the artist behind his art. His feelings, what he wanted to convey to us through his art...
Did I become more sensitive thanks to Michael? I think yes.
I left the Muzeum and I saw a homeless man... Very poor. He wasn't begging for anything, he was just walking... his face was so sad... I almost jumped out of myself and wanted to give him some money... but I realised I actually had no money in my wallet at that particular moment... So I had to withdraw... But this feeling was so strong... I never experienced that before...
Just wanted to share...
So good to you , verylittlesusie.!
You see how this man has been an inspiration for all of us!
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@ melana
I just saw your location .
Greece is here ! :)
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Haiti Earthquake Disaster Little Surprise to Some Seismologists
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ion&page=2 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=haiti-earthquake-prediction&page=2)
i said...i am not insane :)
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)
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It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what. The weird thing about telling someone they're dying is it tends to focus their priorities. You find out what matters to them. What they're willing to die for. What they're willing to lie for.
David Shore, House M.D., Three Stories, 2004
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How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, (Sherlock Holmes) The Sign of Four, 1890
British mystery author & physician (1859 - 1930)
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You know? Thanks to our 7 month investigation, thanks to TIAI, thanks to everything I've learned about Michael I can see that I completely changed my way of perceiving the world! I feel like I was asleep all my life, and I finally opened my eyes! Example: Today, I was at the National Museum at my country, I watched an exhibition of paintings and I gazed at the paintings almost with open mouth! I finally was able to appreciate the true magic art was! I wondered how Michael would react - well, that's obvious - he would be delighted! I was delighted, too! I almost looked with his eyes on it! This was amazing! I realized how much effort, thoughts, time, talent was put in these paintings! I never really bothered about it... Now, I saw the man, the artist behind his art. His feelings, what he wanted to convey to us through his art...
Did I become more sensitive thanks to Michael? I think yes.
I left the Muzeum and I saw a homeless man... Very poor. He wasn't begging for anything, he was just walking... his face was so sad... I almost jumped out of myself and wanted to give him some money... but I realised I actually had no money in my wallet at that particular moment... So I had to withdraw... But this feeling was so strong... I never experienced that before...
Just wanted to share... :oops:
Applause ...VerylittleSusie, thank you for sharing your insightful awarenesses and thoughts! Chapeau ....
This is it ....
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I am TOTALLY convinced that the NWO played a very important role that concluded in the events of 6/25/09. I have had this uneasy feeling about it since day one that still holds true for me. Until it has been completely dis proven, there is NO changing my mindset. And to this date, there has been no PROOF to the contrary.
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voila dieu m a demande il y a quelques jours ce que je voudrai le plus au monde et a partir de la j ai fait un reve de ce que je voulais reellement ca peut paraitre grotesque pour certains mais pour moi, ce reve est le plus doux et magnifique d habitude je fais des cauchemars de la destruction du monde mais je vais pas detailler mes cauchemars sur mon message
je revais d un monde ou nous etions pres de l ocean remplis de dauphins, avec une plage de sable fin tout blanc et doux, nous etions tous sur une grande pelouse bien verte et fraiche, nous avions tous une maison avec un confort modeste et michael avait une grande et belle maison blanche mais il etait pres de nous , il n y avait ni haine ni colere ni argent, tous les enfants s amusaient dehors et riaient aux eclats sans dispute ni bagarre et tous les peuples etaient reunis sans animosite et sans egoisme, voila mon reve je n ai demande ni plus d argent ni une belle voiture ....... mais la serinite de tous les peuples en toute EGALITE , personne n avait plus que le voisin sauf michael je suppose que cette grande maison blanche represente cet incroyable etre humain aux dons incroyables et le blanc en signe de purete , je voulais partager mon reve c est fait !!! meme si c est un reve dans mon coeur c est reel bisous de france
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Not offeneded...but.......how would they "induce" an earthquake aftershock that big?
Did you read what I wrote? :?
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965&p=61290#p61290 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965&p=61290#p61290)
MJalive999, that makes sense...I am aware of the HAARP technology and con-trails (the smoke that planes leave in the sky that also may affect the weather) and I have this knowledge, for many years, thanks to a late-night paranormal/conspiracy radio show called Coast to Coast AM. I've listened since I was at least 15. Most of the topics everyone is mentioning in this part of the thread and on this forum and the other forum has been covered by previous guests and the hosts on the show and future guests to come.
I've heard about HAARP, heard about the Illuminati, the 9-11 conspiracy, about MK Ultra and the Monarch Project...pretty much all of it on Coast to Coast, except about the conspiracy that may be surrounding the Obama administration (which I'm sure may have some guests on in the future talking about). And the other day someone explained to me how Obama may not be who everyone thinks he is... :cry:
Has anyone heard of this show, btw?
http://www.coasttocoastam.com (http://www.coasttocoastam.com)
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Haiti Earthquake Disaster Little Surprise to Some Seismologists
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ion&page=2 (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=haiti-earthquake-prediction&page=2)
With this I am correcting my speculation on a non-natural cause of the Haiti earthquake.
This is what a friend of mine working at french geophysical institute answered on the question whether the earthquake of Haiti could have been induced:
"No, I am not aware of anything unusual. However, induced earthquakes cannot be differentiated from "normal" oned because in both cases they are dealing with stress reduction. It would be necessary to be able to establish a direct spatial and temporal relation to a potential induction cause .....
However, I have never heard of an induced earthquake of that strength. There were times in the 70-years in India, an induced earthquake with a magnitude greater than 6.0 (!) But this is still about 50 times smaller in released energy as what we have here. In addition, the associated oil field would have to be in the immediate vicinity and an offshoot of this "pressurized" space in the warp intrude ...... And at a distance of several hundred kilometers, this cause I think it is very unlikely ....
No, the earthquake for this region is unfortunately not completely unusual, and we also know that on the now broken pieces of the warp for a long time, almost no movements were observed, ie the rejection was "locked" and it has dammed a lot of energy. That is why I believe - as my colleagues at the institute - in a natural cause."
Research on earthquakes is undertaken via a worldwide net of institutes, personal relations and a net of data exchange. If there would have been a non-natural cause of the Haiti earthquake, the researchers of the region would have informed their partners on the other side of the globe since they all depend on the other institutes in the world.
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This is just my own humble little opinion about the whole matter... The reality of it all is that EACH of us have a little "MJ" love within us (some even more than others) or we wouldn't be here at all. I'm sure this has been taken into account by the Jacksons as well. That also means we believers as a whole tend to be more in tune with and actually practicing LOVE, striving to get better at it. That said, it also means that each of us have it within ourselves to make this world a better place with or without MJ at the helm. YOU reading this now have the power within yourself to be a leader just like he does. We all do. So why not Captain your own ship now and set sail on that quest? I have and long before 6/25/09. Why wait for some return date that may or may not ever take place? Do what you can to help heal the world NOW. Sure, IF he returns I will join ranks and follow but with so much pain in this world now as it is, do we really need to wait for the lead doctor to show up to the ER when he's good and ready while in the meantime, the patient quickly slips into certain death? I say no. Become a doctor yourself and do what you can now to save the patient, no matter how grand or little you are capable of giving. Every little bit helps and its the volume that matters most. The delays of the return, i fear, unfortunately also make some question the real sense of urgency in the first place. I don't and hence I'm not waiting for the lead doctor show up. IF and when he catches up, it will be nice to have him around though.
There is no question in my mind that he's alive and well. I know this to be true and won't waste my time explaining or trying to convince others. It serves no real purpose anyway. I've already embarrassed myself enough while they laugh at me when dates come and go and yet still no return. Am I bitter about that? Perhaps a little, but thats what you get for making assumptions anyway. Lesson learned. So I'm no longer in the business of providing MJ alive "hope" and "rescue missions" nor do I attach any significance to ANY dates no matter what kind of numerology significance they may hold. Case in point: the numerology may be right but the surrounding circumstances and background events may not be - even TS states this.
As for hoax believers losing faith that he's alive, I don't think that is the case at all. The balance of evidence to support he's alive is 10 times greater than that of supporting any actual death. Even the blind can see this. No, they are not losing faith in him at all either, they are just tired of playing hide and seek and are moving on with life (maybe that was the plan all along?). I know I have. But that doesn't mean they won't be there for him IF and when he returns. It just means the fish aren't biting right now, no indisputable signs of any "BAM" happening soon, prior return let downs factored in, historical conditioning, etc., so...they are headed back to the dock is all. Fishermen are fishermen for life, not just for a day. When the fish start biting again, they'll be back and perhaps then they can even teach others how to fish as well. So I'm not worried about the size of the army right now, it'll grow gradually (faster if he returns).
I am, however, a little confused by those who criticize others who are more concerned about the date of return versus the message. I know your intention was good and the message true, but do you not understand that for these people, the importance of the date IS the message? As in...WHEN the official message will be revealed. Think about this, please, before being so harsh on those who need to hear it from "THE" source and take into account that we live in a world full of deception and lies (key case in point: media) that has caused so many to be so skeptical. Its not their fault, its the environmental conditioning imposed by our society (ALL of us collectively) that is to blame. Regardless, I think it best to forget about any dates and just focus on the message and plans to "make that change". IF and when the date arrives, it will be a pleasant surprise for us all. Think of it as Christmas Day that is a moving target and never knowing what day of the year it will arrive on. Let's just pray that it does eventually and Santa will finally come see us.
Happy sailing and Bon Voyage!
Thank you, you took the words right from my mind... the change beginns with the man/woman in the mirror!
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You know HAARP is the most secret thing, we can only guess about its acting and and the stage of its development. As for me I am sure there is something 'interesting ' there. This experiment could be directed to another place but ended in Haiti.I have nothing against authorities who says the earthqwake in Haiti is natural but can we believe them when they built this adron collider (in France by the way) and are going to put it in action.Some scientists say it could be the end of our world.A year ago this collider broke after starting and now after reconstruction is going to start somewhere in spring.Many people thought and still think it was GOD's hand that broke the collider down to stop the end of our world. Here we can remember the tsunami in Indonesia in 2000 december. There were many questions about it was natural or not.
And one more thing.About 20000 american soldiers came to Haiti ,of course the country needs help,but why amercans not mexican or some nearby countries. Maybe they are going to investigate ?
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If any of the videos on youtube claiming "the truth" would point to any significant truth about these "top secret" activities, they would have been eliminated in a second from the web.
Think about who is selling which cake to you.
Who knows, doesn't talk and who talks, doesn't know.
As Google owns youtube, it's Google who controls what should be found from youtube videos in the web.
[The company's stated mission from the outset was "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful."[9] Its unofficial slogan, coined by Gmail's first engineer, Paul Buchheit, was Don't be evil.[10][11][12] Google has been criticized over issues of privacy of personal information, copyright and censorship.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google)
So if they limited access before, they certainly would not hesitate to limit access if a governmental interest would be concerned by a publication of "military secrets" on youtube.
In short: if HAARP were true, the respective videos on youtube would have been eliminated.
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In short: if HAARP were true, the respective videos on youtube would have been eliminated.
Oh Grace...I'm stunned to see such a statement from you, who has posted such intelligent comments through the past months...
Actually, what you are saying is that youtube would only allow videos containing bullshit. So with your statement in mind, we could safely conclude that there was no JFK conspiracy, 9/11 was caused by Al Qaeda (which I prefer to call Al Fake eda), Princess Diana unfortunately died in a tragic car accident, Illuminatie and MK Ultra/Mind Control do not exist and there's no such thing as New World Order..? Come on Grace, gimme a break!
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Something to think about: what signifficance do you think it has Obama's immage among those of MLK, Mother Theresa, Lady Di etc in the first minutes of TII movie?
Nelson Mandela, not MLK!
well...what do they have in common?
Nobel Peace Prize ;)
Oh, my bad, sorry about the confusion. I think I was still under the magic of MLK Midnight Call... :oops:
You are right about the Nobel Prize...and, if I'm not mistaken, Obama won the prize just a couple of weeks before TII release...
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! and upon reading Yours I still can't believe it, right down to how wars, famines, are engineered and VACCINES etc are contaminated biowarfare to kill off depopulate the planet and this plan has been in effect for years, right back... they have quoted documents about it direct from the people, most trust, ie. government etc all things to
Dear friend Michelle: The baby of one of my close family members,a 2 year old, got her second swine flu vac. 20 minutes later she seemed a bit slack. Three hours later she was completely paralysed and rushed to the I.C. unit. She had no fever. The only thing she could still move were her eyes. No sound, no cry and no movement at all. The pediatrician was completely bewilderd and for 24 hours they feared for her life. They checked her blood, her brain and everything else they could check. No anormality was found. She had never been ill before. After 3 days slowly she recovered. The pediatrician said she would report this. I myself became very ill 4 hours after my first swine flu vac. and it lasted 8 days. Whatever flu will come around, my family and I will never take any vaccination against any flu ever again. X Emily.
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You know? Thanks to our 7 month investigation, thanks to TIAI, thanks to everything I've learned about Michael I can see that I completely changed my way of perceiving the world! I feel like I was asleep all my life, and I finally opened my eyes! Example: Today, I was at the National Museum at my country, I watched an exhibition of paintings and I gazed at the paintings almost with open mouth! I finally was able to appreciate the true magic art was! I wondered how Michael would react - well, that's obvious - he would be delighted! I was delighted, too! I almost looked with his eyes on it! This was amazing! I realized how much effort, thoughts, time, talent was put in these paintings! I never really bothered about it... Now, I saw the man, the artist behind his art. His feelings, what he wanted to convey to us through his art...
Did I become more sensitive thanks to Michael? I think yes.
I left the Muzeum and I saw a homeless man... Very poor. He wasn't begging for anything, he was just walking... his face was so sad... I almost jumped out of myself and wanted to give him some money... but I realised I actually had no money in my wallet at that particular moment... So I had to withdraw... But this feeling was so strong... I never experienced that before...
Just wanted to share... :oops:
BINGO LS! You see, now the next step is to share this magical joy anf fulfilment that you are feeling with all the ones who know you. This will be the best way of spreading the message of love. Hugs. <heart>
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In short: if HAARP were true, the respective videos on youtube would have been eliminated.
Oh Grace...I'm stunned to see such a statement from you, who has posted such intelligent comments through the past months...
Actually, what you are saying is that youtube would only allow videos containing bullshit. So with your statement in mind, we could safely conclude that there was no JFK conspiracy, 9/11 was caused by Al Qaeda (which I prefer to call Al Fake eda), Princess Diana unfortunately died in a tragic car accident, Illuminatie and MK Ultra/Mind Control do not exist and there's no such thing as New World Order..? Come on Grace, gimme a break!
With all the respect, no, those conspiracy therories might verry well be true, but "they" probabelly choose which information to stay and which one to go. I, like Grace, have the same feeling: it could be dust in our eyes some facts that we think we find out and it is a strong possibility that the real characters behind organisations like NWO to be well hidden. They mix true facts with false information in order to create fear, confussion and a general negative feeling. One thing is for sure: they want us to know about all these things that invaded the internet. Why?
Oh, and I was also thinking about this: do you realize that if one savior wants to drag out someone who's caught in the mud, he has no choice but to dirt his feet and hands first?
Hugs.
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For several years I had a colleague who happened to be a former CIA agent.
I can tell you only from my personal experience: if they want to leak something out, it is on purpose. If they want something to not leak out, it will not leak out.
So what you find out there in the web is either not true or not significant enough to point to what is really going on or it is leaked on purpose thus pointing into a wrong direction.
The web is without any doubt being scanned and sites are disappearing (which we already noticed). Some countries show censorship openly, others don't. Who is better off?
I don't think that it is important at all that I don't believe TIAI, in NWO and related matters.
I am following Michael's disappearance only.
The fact that the family is so happy afterwards is indicating to me that he is neither in danger nor in trouble. This is what matters to me and which does make it more improbable that NWO or any bad forces have him in their focus.
I would believe it if Michael came out and said "I was threatened by NWO and got into hiding and now the bad guys are all defeated and gone". Will this happen?
This is my very personal view of the things. I don't expect others to follow it or even share it. That's not why I am here.
I am (since June) concerned that MJ's fans and their attention could be abused in order to spread information to a huge group of potential listeners that is misleading. Not only could we serve as field study for Barnum theorists and consumer research profs, not only could we serve as field study for psychological experiments, we could also serve as multiplicators for mindsetting activities. We already had all kinds of encounters, hackers included wanting to infect our desktops by popular sites. We are vulnerable since bound by our heart. Don't forget this please. This goes especially to the youngsters and minors moving in the web.
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[youtube:2hgojn83]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-NAx0Jpco[/youtube:2hgojn83]
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In short: if HAARP were true, the respective videos on youtube would have been eliminated.
Come on!
are you working to them?
Is this wath they want: US Government wants to keep Internet control because internet is STILL a free place! Like it or not, internet is our best source for the truth (of course, we can't believe in everything we read) But if u think that all youtube's videos are bullsh*t ... so maybe u believe that MJ is dead! on one of my videos, i said that the ''spiderweb'' also means ''the truth about MJ (being alive) come from internet'' and really is :)
Read about HAARP and you will see that it is possible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwhege4IuNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwhege4IuNs))! ... With HAARP they can control the weather.
(don't forget that Global Warming is also a HOAX. and if u believe it's another lie... I watched a History Channel program about it XD) btw, yesterday i was watching to TV and the reporter questioned to the Meteorologist ( i think was that her job, idr): ''and about the Global Warming? is it causing the devastating rains in South America?'' she smiles and ''well ... we are not sure about Global Warming. it is STILL a possibility''
Weather is always changing! They lie about Global Warming, they say it is our fault, only to control us.
see: An Inconvenient Question - Journalist Phelim McAleer Asks Prof. Stephen Schneider http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40Hj9iDT6A)
JOIN: http://www.savetheinternet.com/ (http://www.savetheinternet.com/)
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Good, well thought out post. Appreciate your logic and clarity.
As to the non-believers: There's a saying for those who believe no proof is necessary; for those who don't, no proof is enough...
I'll make a slight amendment by saying we did need the evidences in order to understand that he's alive; everything has been laid out meticulously, the hoaxers did and are doing a brilliant job in pointing out all the facts that point to a faked death.
Many, fans are of course upset and angered by the mere idea of a hoax; to suggest he did it is an insult and an outrage. I hope more people become aware of TIAI and take heed of the message behind MJ's actions and know that he comes from a place of pure love; but as you said TS, many people can't see past the idea of a money/publicity motive. Being raised on a steady diet of cynicism and fear, taught that everybody has a price and money is the God to be worshiped above all else, a lot of folks can't/won't see the bigger picture: anyone who thinks independently, who refuses to conform to the belief system currently in place in the Western metropolitan societies, is branded, ridiculed, and persecuted. Serious threats to the Status Quo are enemies to be dealt with...persistent resistance to their warnings that may come in the form of false accusations, the attempt to ruin reputations, interference with and obstacles set to prevent the troublemaker from earning an income may result in harsher, more deadly actions.
Those fan vids on Youtube of MJ that display his more...ummm...physical attractions, while very nice and enjoyable to look at, may have also caused people to underestimate his brilliance and his intellect.
Let's not make the mistake Sony made in thinking of Michael as just another performer with just music and dancing on his mind. He has a message. Can you hear it?
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Thank you TS for stating your truth quietly and clearly. When I read your words I am reminded of this passage from the Bible...
1 Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is LOVE.[/b]
To me this is the Michael's Message in a nutshell. It's ALL for love.
Amen to that! Thank you for posting this - it's a great reminder.
Corinthians 13, how well I remember this Biblical passage. I remember in the 5th grade, I had to memorize and recite it verbatim in a play. Thus, I never forgot it.
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Grace wrote:
In short: if HAARP were true, the respective videos on youtube would have been eliminated.
I respect all the opinions in here but I would like to say this.
From the things that I've learned so far ( and trust me I know some things that I've never seen on the internet and I'm not sure that many of the people that would learned about them , wouldn't jumped of their balkonies, although I don't want to be the "wise" one) I can say this.
When "they" - named them as you like - decide to let an issue to run across the web and everybody get informed about it , that means that for "them" is an ancient history!
"They" have already step to a MUCH higher level ! And leave this playground for us , to have something to spent our time , thinking that we have discovered something the gun powder!
While we discuss about NWO-HAARP or whatever , "they" are working on things that most of us couldn't even imagine !
And I call them "They " , cause I disagree with the name Illuminati.
That name is just the facade. It became well known by all these best sellers books and now is been using by everybody who thinks that he knows "them".
Illuminati is only a small part of "them".
I don't want to expand it cause it will be out of topic . I can't be sure how much these conspiracy theories has to do with Michael's case but my enstict says that they have a lot to do , if not with the escape itself, at least with all the previous painfull years for Michael.
Just my opinion ! :)
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I don't want to expand it cause it will be out of topic . I can't be sure how much these conspiracy theories has to do with Michael's case but my enstict says that they have a lot to do , if not with the escape itself, at least with all the previous painfull years for Michael.
Just my opinion ! :)
That's ok!
i don't think that TS will get angry! ;)
after all, THIS topic is perfect to spread info like that.
We Could do Thread about it, but ... How Many People Will Actually Read This???
..this is the Key of the HOAX! a 'dirty game' with a good purpose!
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That's ok!
i don't think that TS will get angry!
after all, THIS topic is perfect to spread info like that.
We Could do Thread about it, but ... How Many People Will Actually Read This???
..this is the Key of the HOAX! a 'dirty game' with a good purpose!
;) ;) ;)
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If not censuring a video in youtube proves that it´s a lie, then if I´m the NWO, I don´t delete it and so you think it´s a lie... easy.
beyondbrothers, I love your argument:
There's a saying for those who believe no proof is necessary; for th.ose who don't, no proof is enough...
For belivers not needing prooves, I started needing, but comes a point when I just don´t... waste ot time now.
It´s like an infinite puzzle where everything fits.
VERY IMPORTANT:
About Internet control, think about the means they are using...
The harder one is the fight against piracy and the defense of author rights, isn´t it?
And who is ruling that?
HA HA SONY!!!!!
All around the globe!
Did Michael anytime complained about piracy?
I don´t think so...
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I just wanted to throw something in here, may not be irrelevant to some but I think it could have some kind of connection. My Hubby and Sons are big WWF/WWE Wrestling fans here in the States. Well a few years ago there was a division of that wrestling that was call NWO= New World Order! Makes me feel like "they" were throwing it right in front of our noses and most of us didn't even realize it....I know I didn't until I start researching all this stuff concerning Michael and remembered about that wrestling thing. Not sure if that has ever been mentioned before, if so sorry to repeat.
It's all for LOVE!
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Dear Friend Emily
wow I am so sorry for Your pain but glad You all survived!! it is so scary!! and every year they have the so called normal flu vacines here and we never take them, we use natural stuff like garlic and echinaecea(not sure of spelling) and good old organic spray free food!! but they pressure You and I say no thanks and everyone who takes it gets sick but they think it is part of the cause, t stay healthy when we are well when taken these things react adn contaminate and give bugs/ and or potentially deadly viruses to us, it's the same here with the new vacinnes for girls of 11 yrs or so for cervical cancer do you have it in Your country?? girls got sick and with all other vacinnes as well. And there is Jenny McCarthy is it the Actress that is in a relationship with Jim Carey who caused havoc in the USa because she mong others but her being a celebrity (I think made it more stand out) well that kids are getting Autism among other disorders from vaccines as I think her son was fine up until he got the vacinnes . But of course the Us health investigated and all was prpved wrong. but yes it is so scary and people here get pressured by health nursess etc when new baies if You make a stand and don't get them they get the child protection onto You, You can't even be able to make a choie for Your children, one family herer their Young son had cancer and they tried the horrible stuff like Chemo etc didn't work, but they also wanted to go alternative medicine -natural and they had to do a runner from the law eventually they were arrested and charged I tink with their Child's murder or manslaughter ...even though they had tried the genarl medicine and it didn't work. so bad we ahve no rights.
thanks so much for Your much respected and meaningful opinion!! thanks
love
MJ forever
Michelle ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ26mfzucQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ26mfzucQ)
One more thing about the "hidden " agenda of "them"!
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FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT!
THIS IS IT
On January 25th 2010 at exactly 02:26 p.m. PT you will receive one final MESSAGE
Get ready for the MISSION of your lifetime
This is a great adventure
Don’t be scared
There is nothing to be scared of
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@ mformichael ,
You know what ?My notice for your post clicked at exactly 2:26 !!!
You scared me !! 8-)
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OFFICIAL: SWINE FLU IS A HOAX http://tsf.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Portugal/Interior.aspx?content_id=1478235
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OFFICIAL: SWINE FLU IS A HOAX http://tsf.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Portug ... id=1478235 (http://tsf.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Portugal/Interior.aspx?content_id=1478235)
PLEASE , people , STAY AWAY FROM ALL VACCINES THAT WILL COME!!!
Vaccines are the most easily spreaded and accepted weapon !!!! :x
Don't bite the bait !!!
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@ mformichael ,
You know what ?My notice for your post clicked at exactly 2:26 !!!
You scared me !! 8-)
:lol:
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http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... ouncement/ (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/congratulations-and-final-announcement/)
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02.26 pm LA time, right?
I am honestly not expecting much, but of course I will have a look 11.26pm my time! I hope the site doesnt break down at that time! :lol:
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If not censuring a video in youtube proves that it´s a lie, then if I´m the NWO, I don´t delete it and so you think it´s a lie... easy.
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You couldn't say it better. But are we sure about this algorithm? It is a neverending mind game, where the human logic is anticipated and used...like a chessgame. That's why, for all the evidences, for all the coincidences, for all the facts we think we know, new explanation, new you tube vids which demonstrates the opposite, new counter-evidences may appeare, and in the end it is possible that only a 6th sense, intuition, comon sense, to help you find the right answer.
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If not censuring a video in youtube proves that it´s a lie, then if I´m the NWO, I don´t delete it and so you think it´s a lie... easy.
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You couldn't say it better. But are we sure about this algorithm? It is a neverending mind game, where the human logic is anticipated and used...like a chessgame. That's why, for all the evidences, for all the coincidences, for all the facts we think we know, new explanation, new you tube vids which demonstrates the opposite, new counter-evidences may appeare, and in the end it is possible that only a 6th sense, intuition, comon sense, to help you find the right answer.
Both well said! :idea:
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MJ_ForeverandAlways » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:49 am
I just wanted to throw something in here, may not be irrelevant to some but I think it could have some kind of connection. My Hubby and Sons are big WWF/WWE Wrestling fans here in the States. Well a few years ago there was a division of that wrestling that was call NWO= New World Order! Makes me feel like "they" were throwing it right in front of our noses and most of us didn't even realize it....I know I didn't until I start researching all this stuff concerning Michael and remembered about that wrestling thing. Not sure if that has ever been mentioned before, if so sorry to repeat.
It's all for LOVE!
I am aware it. I use to be a big wrestler fan and noticed the NWO fad that they started showing. I noticed it immediately and wasn't really that surprised. Thought it was interesting that they will do that through WWF/WWE.
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*Mo* » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:16 pm
Grace wrote:
In short: if HAARP were true, the respective videos on youtube would have been eliminated.
Oh Grace...I'm stunned to see such a statement from you, who has posted such intelligent comments through the past months...
Actually, what you are saying is that youtube would only allow videos containing bullshit. So with your statement in mind, we could safely conclude that there was no JFK conspiracy, 9/11 was caused by Al Qaeda (which I prefer to call Al Fake eda), Princess Diana unfortunately died in a tragic car accident, Illuminatie and MK Ultra/Mind Control do not exist and there's no such thing as New World Order..? Come on Grace, gimme a break
If anything many of the Youtubes have been deleted because they are hitting on truths and they don't want people to come across it. I have read too many youtubes where people said their videos were deleted not once but numerous times. So, that tells me that there is some truth to what they have. Anything is a lie will stay on there.
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FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT!
THIS IS IT
On January 25th 2010 at exactly 02:26 p.m. PT you will receive one final MESSAGE
Get ready for the MISSION of your lifetime
This is a great adventure
Don’t be scared
There is nothing to be scared of
Can't wait to see what it is ..I'm setting here looking at the clock !!!!
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we are this is it!!!let's go to love...........i love you all!!!!!
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THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH
January 25th, 2010
7 months ago we went to sleep. Today is the day we wake up.
Today is the day we stop beLIEving and we start beLOVEing.
There is a message that needs to be spread and the message is L.O.V.E.
For one man, 50 concerts were not enough. 500, 5000, 50000, 500000 wouldn’t have been enough.
So this is the day we stop being the audience and we become the show.
This is the day we become the choreographer, the backup dancers, the backup singers, the band, the crew, the stage manager, the lights, the music, the dance….
This is the day we become HIM
THIS IS IT. This is OUR show.
HE is inside each and every single one of us. Inspiring us, giving us his talents, sharing his L.O.V.E. so we can spread his message in every corner of this PLANET.
HE is the source. L.O.V.E. is the message. WE are the messengers. Let’s Stay United Now to SPREAD it around.
As for HIM? For the first time in his life, he is sitting back enjoying the show.
THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH
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do you understand , this message????
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I got this email too ..who sent it?? .. and I'm like you can't figure what it means .. do you think they wont us to believe it's from Michael ??
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i'm lost.....i don't understand
http://www.mjawakening.wordpress.com (http://www.mjawakening.wordpress.com) what's mean, alive or RIPmessage....so i'm tired tonight!!!lol
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According to the dude that wrote it, he said "I am NOT MIchael and have never made that claim" or something to that effect.
it's a website where you take from it what you want, really. Believe it or don't believe it, take it with a grain of salt, whatever. Just like anywhere. I just copied down the "final message" the guy wrote. Lots of good thoughts in there, whether he is Michael or not Michael. doesn't really matter. he understands that the message to the world matters more than anything.
It means that WE are the workers. He's got a voice for all to be able to hear, the director's voice. "Here's what's gotta be done..." is the types of things he puts in music all over the place. He's choreographed something big, "The greatest show on earth" (taken from the reference to PT Barnum, entertainment master, specifically in regards to the circus and illusions). Now that people have pretty much fiigured stuff out after 7 mos., i.e. the show has been in the final stages of editing, getting the kinks out, etc., he can watch the fruit of his life work play out in the people as we go forth with the message and take a stand.
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maybe michael being alive is just a theory :)
I hope not cuz If that is true or has any truth to it then his death is being used in a cleverly genius way to manipulate people just like the media or whoever you want to fill in the blank with______.
Of Course i was being ironic, my dear!
I KNOW that michael is alive since the beginning! Neither when the media shook my nerves with ''Music & Me'' or/and ''Ben'' I felt that he was dead.
I know, I was just commenting on the idea of it :)
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PLS, comments about AWAKENING HERE viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4158&p=64764&hilit=awakening#p64764 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4158&p=64764&hilit=awakening#p64764)
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I hope you can tell us in your next update. Is the twitter account of TIAI apart of the official TIAI.com? Or can anyone on the forum tell me if this is confirmed? Thanks!
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@ Looking4Truth
I recall reading in TS's posts that his only official site that he has operated is TIAI.com and the YouTube post he made letting us know about a reveal coming up. ALL OTHERS are people running with his info, sharing and speading the message. Do others agree with me?
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whether he is Michael or not Michael. doesn't really matter. he understands that the message to the world matters more than anything.
It means that WE are the workers. He's got a voice for all to be able to hear, the director's voice. "Here's what's gotta be done..." is the types of things he puts in music all over the place. He's choreographed something big, "The greatest show on earth" (taken from the reference to PT Barnum, entertainment master, specifically in regards to the circus and illusions). Now that people have pretty much fiigured stuff out after 7 mos., i.e. the show has been in the final stages of editing, getting the kinks out, etc., he can watch the fruit of his life work play out in the people as we go forth with the message and take a stand.
Aleluia!
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I hope you can tell us in your next update. Is the twitter account of TIAI apart of the official TIAI.com? Or can anyone on the forum tell me if this is confirmed? Thanks!
For your information, though, the other internet sites are not run by http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com; (http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com;) the only other site I operate is http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed).
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@ Looking4Truth
I recall reading in TS's posts that his only official site that he has operated is TIAI.com and the YouTube post he made letting us know about a reveal coming up. ALL OTHERS are people running with his info, sharing and speading the message. Do others agree with me?
I hope you can tell us in your next update. Is the twitter account of TIAI apart of the official TIAI.com? Or can anyone on the forum tell me if this is confirmed? Thanks!
For your information, though, the other internet sites are not run by http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com; (http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com;) the only other site I operate is http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed).
Oh okay! Thanks guys! I must've read that part quickly and missed it. lol
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Souza wrote; TS, thank you again for the update. I really hope I will see more and more people discussing his message, instead of discussing when he will return.
I'll make it a global so nobody has to miss the update!
I promptly let people must participate more in these discuciones, and stop looking the same tests over and over again, of course, if something new is arguable :geek:
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I can not believe how people still deny the existence of illuminati. If there was no illuminati and if they have NOTHING to do with Michael, what the hell is Michael doing in this video with his body language and with all those signs? And we shouldn't forget about the video of "They don't care about us"
[youtube:2fhddpqo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKouvt2sOVY[/youtube:2fhddpqo]
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I believe that we all need to watch these videos.
[youtube:svx45l1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-A5fBBFIRE[/youtube:svx45l1w]
[youtube:svx45l1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsiGLxT9mg&translated=1[/youtube:svx45l1w]
[youtube:svx45l1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7oLr7rBCo[/youtube:svx45l1w]
[youtube:svx45l1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89SB59DT34[/youtube:svx45l1w]
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PureLove wrote: I can not believe how people still deny the existence of illuminati. If there was no illuminati and if they have NOTHING to do with Michael, what the hell is Michael doing in this video with his body language and with all those signs? And we shouldn't forget about the video of "They don't care about us"
According to what you say, I will post a large number of articles I've read on the Internet about these people, and other people here in my country, I do not think many people in different parts of the world are wrong. :geek:
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Wow. That Blank Panther video and explanation was amazing. Thank you so much for posting this. I believe (or I certainly WANT to believe) that he has broken free himself and will help all of us break those chains. I don't know how or when, but I keep the faith. Yesterday, I ran into a fellow conspiracy theorist who does not believe the MJ hoax theory, but was glad to see me because he had read that Michael's family had made enough money to pay off all their debts. I said that was great, though I wouldn't necessarily believe Michael HAD all those debts. I half jokingly said that MJ was still alive and ready to defeat the NWO. He smiled and said, I really hope so. Tell him he's overdue. We need him now. I know of many people of good conscience who know there is something wrong with this world, but have no where to turn, or don't know where to begin to make that change. I beLIEve that they will be there too when Michael returns, though they don't know that yet.
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sur un forum que j ai decouvert, une personne a fait reference a Mr Louis Farrakhan, donc j ai ete enquete sur ce grand homme. je trouve que Mr Farrkhan a tout a fait raison en defendant la population afro-americaine ou africaine mais quand il dit Hitler etait un grand homme je suis profondement blessee en ecoutant ca !!!! ce grand homme qu etait soi disant Hitler a fait un genocide gigantesque contre les juifs (regardez le film la liste de Schindler qui est une histoire vraie ou nous voyons des hommes des femmes et des enfants embarquaient et entassaient comme un troupeau dans un train les uns sur les autres et qu ils vont vers les chambres a gaz pour y rencontrer la mort alors non je ne pense pas que HITLER CE DICTATEUR etait un grand homme, meme si je suis pas d accord du tout avec la puissance de l israel et de sa manipulation , il ne faut quand meme pas oublier l histoire et je suis pas d accord non plus avec l homophobie, nous sommes qui pour faire un jugement sur les moeurs d une personne et ceux qui ont 4 femmes, un harem ou bien decide de s octroyer de la luxure nous sommes qui pour les juger, seul DIEU a le droit de juger, et non l etre humain, faut savoir que lesx personnes qui sont homosexuelles ne l ont pas choisis et qu il est tres difficile pour eux de faire face a cette difference sexuelle et qu au regard des autres ils ne sont toujours pas reconnu et je trouve ca dommage , le mot AMOUR est dans la TOLERANCE vis a vis des autres et si Michael fait ou est d accord avec cet argumentation, je ne suis plus sure de pouvoir le suivre et a mon avis il perdra beaucoup de monde, dans toutes religions et toutes foi ou croyance en DIEU nous n avons pas le droit de JUGEMENT et je n irai pas contre ma croyance en DIEU pour Michael meme si je l aime enormement et que je le respecte hi j espere qu il me lira, mais mon coeur est pour la liberte de l afrique et j adore l orient , je suis honnete je dis ce que je pense que dieu vous benissent TOUS
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I just want to say I watched the videos above and the first one confuses me. According to that video giving the peace sign...(index and middle finger) is part of the Illuminati symbols? Also the round peace sign? If this is true, Michael was always doing the peace sign with his fingers. And I just watched a video on you tube that Travis Payne did with the prisoners at the Philippines detention center and at the end of the song they perform (They Don't Care About Us) they make a peace symbol. here is the link to the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI)
So if this is true that these symbols are associated with the Illuminati, then why did Michael use them all the time? Especially the two fingers? This is not giving me a good feeling right now!
God & Love be with us all :)
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The sign "V" could also think of the pyramid (the symbol of Illuminati) reversed ... :?:
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I just want to say I watched the videos above and the first one confuses me. According to that video giving the peace sign...(index and middle finger) is part of the Illuminati symbols? Also the round peace sign? If this is true, Michael was always doing the peace sign with his fingers. And I just watched a video on you tube that Travis Payne did with the prisoners at the Philippines detention center and at the end of the song they perform (They Don't Care About Us) they make a peace symbol. here is the link to the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI)
So if this is true that these symbols are associated with the Illuminati, then why did Michael use them all the time? Especially the two fingers? This is not giving me a good feeling right now!
God & Love be with us all :)
You see? Confusion...what is true, what is lie, what is the whole point, which is the real intention? Think twice about what was the real message from MJ ...
Has LOVE anything to do with this?
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@ralu:
So true my friend. This time YOU took the words right out of MY mouth. As for me, I am indeed taking it ALL in from the sidelines and mulling it all over along the way but... until "THE" source himself speaks, I'm not ready to buy any stock in anything unless it has to do with love and caring for others which I have already set sail on that mission long ago.
There's a lot of folks out there with a lot of different agendas and what better place to insert them than places like this with lots of open minds, hoax-oriented and intently listening, watching. Not saying they are necessarily wrong agendas, mind you, just agendas. Some of them just enjoy the thrill of playing jokes and creating drama too. Sound like anyone we know? Maybe they all learned it from the master himself?
The biggest thing I have learned in all of this is that you have to go to the source for the truth (at least their version of it anyway). But if that source is not making themselves clearly and unquestionably visible and available, you really can't come to ANY conclusions nor know the real truth. By default, everything else is just hearsay, speculation and conjecture - yet, many will accept this as truth and doing so makes them more ignorant than not knowing the truth at all. So...we either just sit and wait or we move on. At least we do have a choice in that.
Last night as I was browsing through these forum pages, I asked my daughter to bring me some cookies. She did and there was only one cookie left in the container. Then as she handed it to me she said; "this is it". As in...there's no more left to give. Of course, I gave her the last cookie, but for me personally, that was MY own moment of "BAM!". Maybe, just maybe, he is still alive but he's done and perhaps "this is it"? His way of saying goodbye. But I don't know for sure and may never know because I can't talk to him to confirm it so...I do the only thing I can do - live out his desire for me (us) to extend love and care toward others. You can't go wrong with that, now can you?
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Last night as I was browsing through these forum pages, I asked my daughter to bring me some cookies. She did and there was only one cookie left in the container. Then as she handed it to me she said; "this is it". As in...there's no more left to give. Of course, I gave her the last cookie, but for me personally, that was MY own moment of "BAM!". Maybe, just maybe, he is still alive but he's done and perhaps "this is it"? His way of saying goodbye. But I don't know for sure and may never know because I can't talk to him to confirm it so...I do the only thing I can do - live out his desire for me (us) to extend love and care toward others. You can't go wrong with that, now can you?
Lovely, Tigger. Thank you! This last cookie might be the biggest gift he ever gave us ... only if we would be strong enough to accept it ... and brave enough. :)
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That's so truly beautiful Tigger it is amazing how these little messages can occur in everyday moments like for you!!(I've had a few to) like 'TS' says about all the coincidences in his Messages with reality , and I read somewhere just very recently that there are no coincidences, they are all meant to be and they are real aahhaaa moments or moments of 'bam' like You say!! and like they say there are signs every where we just have to be open enough to see them, 'eyes wide open' as opposed to looking but not seeing it or things for what they really are, the messages can seem hidden but it is only when prepared to drop all opinions and prejudices etc that we have a chance of seeing them clearly and objectively!!
And like MJ himself knows children -Your daughter are so innocent and preciuous but at the same time they are some of the most purest and un tainted points of wisdom , as they have no game no agenda and just call it and or see it for what it really is and so to Your beautiful daughter 'This Is It', tell's it like it is no hidden message plain and honest. and what a reward You gave her, to give her the last one - for coming to You with the only one meeting Your request , as some would have taken the last one and came and showed You the empty jar and said 'This Is It'. So much 'kudos' to You!!
And You could quite in Your own moment of 'bam' hit on another point without even realising it maybe.... that if we the world all saw the world through the inocence of a childs eyes and acted from a place of innocence, purity and truly good intent, uncalculated just being, "This Is It" what You see is what You get, no needing proof or answers, just trusting the process, and children place so much trust in their parents and so too their word, take it as is said, no games, hidden agendas and/or wishes to control, everyone just allowed to be. As I recall a number of times how MJ referred to in some way seeing the world through a childs eye and that we can learn from them, well Your moment in a way for me is a beautiful example that just proves that...'This Is It' :)
thanks You Tigger for sharing and I wish You and Your family much love and everyone here and fans and people everywhere.
much love light and peace!!
Michelle ;)
xoxoxo[/b][/b]
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I think people need to stop looking for all these so called clues about MJ being alive. It is time wasting and if the man is alive, let him live. Yeah there are somethings that happened that seemed off but no one can prove for sure that Michael is alive.
People will look for anything to try to make it seem like he is alive. Like the spider webs in the TII Thriller video. It is spider webs in a haunted house, that in no way means he is alive or a victim of mind control from the Illuminati.
What happened to Michael is sad and the only way to make him live forever is to keep memories of him in a good light, and not forgetting how mean people were to him but forgiving them. I used to believe MJ was alive and used to watch PianoGames' videos and loved watching thinking MJ was alive until I saw the TII special features on the blu ray disc.
They openly acknowledged Michael passing and getting emotional during the subject. No it isn't that I wanted MJ to come back at a certain time but it is because when you step back and look at the so called evidence, you see all of it is circumstantial and there is no concrete proof he is alive.
Yes Michael was a great man but the only evidence that you will ever have of Michael being alive is if he comes back, not blurry pictures or trying to find hidden messages in chris angel advertisements.
Michael was a good man but people need to accept reality and the reality right now is that he is dead. Move on, spread his message of love and live.
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I think people need to stop looking for all these so called clues about MJ being alive. It is time wasting and if the man is alive, let him live. Yeah there are somethings that happened that seemed off but no one can prove for sure that Michael is alive.
People will look for anything to try to make it seem like he is alive. Like the spider webs in the TII Thriller video. It is spider webs in a haunted house, that in no way means he is alive or a victim of mind control from the Illuminati.
What happened to Michael is sad and the only way to make him live forever is to keep memories of him in a good light, and not forgetting how mean people were to him but forgiving them. I used to believe MJ was alive and used to watch PianoGames' videos and loved watching thinking MJ was alive until I saw the TII special features on the blu ray disc.
They openly acknowledged Michael passing and getting emotional during the subject. No it isn't that I wanted MJ to come back at a certain time but it is because when you step back and look at the so called evidence, you see all of it is circumstantial and there is no concrete proof he is alive.
Yes Michael was a great man but the only evidence that you will ever have of Michael being alive is if he comes back, not blurry pictures or trying to find hidden messages in chris angel advertisements.
Michael was a good man but people need to accept reality and the reality right now is that he is dead. Move on, spread his message of love and live.
If you want to move on you can. We've been investigating for the last 7 months and it is not that easy to leave everything behind and move on. And it shouldn't be. Personelly I will be waiting till the truth prevails whatever it is! You say that we don't have a concrete proof. What kind of "concrete proof" are you waiting for? Michael gave us all he could do. All kinds of clues, proofs everything! We've found almost a thousand things and you're still looking for a concrete proof? I'm sorry but it's your fault if you haven't found it yet because they're already given to us! I think the ONLY concrete proof to you could be seeing Michael on TV telling that he is alive. I believe that's going to happen too but that will be the Bams day. Concrete proofs were already given to us.
If you're done, your done. Leave this place and move on but this is the MJ Hoax Death INVESTIGATORS forum. And we're the ones who still investigate the hoax. You don't need to make people sad with the things you write.
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PureLove wrote: I can not believe how people still deny the existence of illuminati. If there was no illuminati and if they have NOTHING to do with Michael, what the hell is Michael doing in this video with his body language and with all those signs? And we shouldn't forget about the video of "They don't care about us"
According to what you say, I will post a large number of articles I've read on the Internet about these people, and other people here in my country, I do not think many people in different parts of the world are wrong. :geek:
So you say that Michael's body language and all of the illuminati shapes, figures are NOTHING?! I'm sorry but I've read "articles" enough to make me believe illuminati and NWO. And president Bush says it with his own mouth how they created NWO! How could you people still keep on sleeping? And I DO think that those people in different parts of the world ARE wrong.
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I just want to say I watched the videos above and the first one confuses me. According to that video giving the peace sign...(index and middle finger) is part of the Illuminati symbols? Also the round peace sign? If this is true, Michael was always doing the peace sign with his fingers. And I just watched a video on you tube that Travis Payne did with the prisoners at the Philippines detention center and at the end of the song they perform (They Don't Care About Us) they make a peace symbol. here is the link to the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI)
So if this is true that these symbols are associated with the Illuminati, then why did Michael use them all the time? Especially the two fingers? This is not giving me a good feeling right now!
God & Love be with us all :)
You see? Confusion...what is true, what is lie, what is the whole point, which is the real intention? Think twice about what was the real message from MJ ...
Has LOVE anything to do with this?
Confusion is better than sleeping ;) To me, it's better to read and learn more and pick up the logical ones for yourself is the best way. There will be no confusion then.
To me that peace sign is used for different things. It is used for Peace and also it is used by evil people with a sign of pentagram. It depends to the person who use that sign and for what. Michael does the V sign too but he uses it for Peace as we all know :)
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I just want to say I watched the videos above and the first one confuses me. According to that video giving the peace sign...(index and middle finger) is part of the Illuminati symbols? Also the round peace sign? If this is true, Michael was always doing the peace sign with his fingers. And I just watched a video on you tube that Travis Payne did with the prisoners at the Philippines detention center and at the end of the song they perform (They Don't Care About Us) they make a peace symbol. here is the link to the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI)
So if this is true that these symbols are associated with the Illuminati, then why did Michael use them all the time? Especially the two fingers? This is not giving me a good feeling right now!
God & Love be with us all :)
You see? Confusion...what is true, what is lie, what is the whole point, which is the real intention? Think twice about what was the real message from MJ ...
Has LOVE anything to do with this?
Confusion is better than sleeping ;) To me, it's better to read and learn more and pick up the logical ones for yourself is the best way. There will be no confusion then.
To me that peace sign is used for different things. It is used for Peace and also it is used by evil people with a sign of pentagram. It depends to the person who use that sign and for what. Michael does the V sign too but he uses it for Peace as we all know :)
PureLove, please understand that I don't deny the existence of such things, but is my conclusion (based on my type of logic, which is not necessary the gospel) that what we see in those vids is not the real thing. For me confusion is the worst thing possible; it's like a nightmere with opened eyes...when you think you found something but then another possibility occures ...They know how human logic works and they use it as a weapon. For an instance: do you think it is imposible that Bush used those words in a totally different sense and they twisted them, they put his words out of the context to look how we see them right now? Don't missunderstand me: I'm not a political person AT ALL. For me politics = evil generally speaking. But my instincts tell me that many of those vids are meant to confuse us, to make us afraid...Look, now, whenever we see a nice person waiving the V sign, we will think not only to the joy of that person but also to Illuminaty. Whenever we will se the "make love not war" sign we will do the same. And you do not realize how all these bad energies we are issuing while we think negative are increasing their power. The power of the positive thinking is not a fary tale anymore. It is a fact. And they know this.
Ok, these are my thoughts. I'm not trying to convince anybody to think like me, I don't like to argue either, coz I came in peace, only please be sure you do what your heart & mind is telling you to do.
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PureLove wrote; So you say that Michael's body language and all of the illuminati shapes, figures are NOTHING?! I'm sorry but I've read "articles" enough to make me believe illuminati and NWO. And president Bush says it with his own mouth how they created NWO! How could you people still keep on sleeping? And I DO think that those people in different parts of the world ARE wrong.
I think we should leave a little television and go back to libraries, when you say that people are asleep, it is true is asleep, idiotic, blindly believe what they have in the media, media Which they own, look at when you talk about illuminati very few people know what they are talking about, they are the ones that move the economy, remove and put presidents, who are nothing but puppets of these people. Behind all the plans to destabilize governments in Latin America they are, behind the attempted coups that have lived here, are they, that if with the hand-gun for the CIA. If you want to debate with me on these issues stand at the order. :geek:
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Just a little side note...one of the videos shows George and Laura Bush holding up two fingers in the air; their little pinky and their index finger. This forms a symbol of many things such as the BS sign, etc. The video proclaims that this is a sign of the horns of the Devil and insinuates that they are followers of such.
Now, try to keep in mind that both of them are from Texas (a state well known for it's Longhorn breed of cattle) and it's quite possible that they were delivering a speech at the University of Texas (UT) who's mascot is the Longhorn and where this is a symbol of that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_'em_Horns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_'em_Horns)
My point here is that you can't take everything at face value. Most of you here strike me as quite intelligent and don't fall victim to that. Do I think that organizations like NWO and Illuminati exist? Yes. But am I going to accept everything I hear and see as truth? No. So just because the special features on the TII DVD attempts to make you think he's dead, that doesn't mean it's factual. It could be a setup for the return (Bam day) or it could be that he really wants everyone to believe he's dead so he can live out the remaining years of his life in peace. But if the latter is true, then why all the sloppiness and clues? Unless...along the way he has changed his mind and does want to go underground permanently.
Do I think Michael is alive? Yes. Do I think we are all being played here? Yes. Those of you who know me, know that I focused intently on the ambulance scene inconsistencies very early on and produced several YouTube vids about it. There were far too many problems (clues?) with that whole scene enough for me to rule out any kind of government witness protection program (they are just not that sloppy). Bottom line for me is...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. I would, however, be more than willing to entertain any solid "proof" that he is indeed deceased. To date, no one has been able to show me anything to convince me of this and the preponderance of available evidence right now tips the scales heavily in favor of the opposite.
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Tigger, agree if Michael wanted to disappear and everyone thought he really died, would not have many clues or things that do not fit.
On the subject of the Illuminati, though I definitely think there are, as a comment in my previous thread they control everything, large corporations, media, removed or made presidents, managing the global economy are Conspiring against democratically elected governments and they are uncomfortable, ... look that's well and who did not want to believe is his right, everyone is free to believe what they want ;)
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God is hard to open people's eyes :shock:
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That garbage is global television
I want to write about television, before they tell me is nothing new that I have to say, but many people forget things and we repeat them, forgive my expressions of pain and discomfort, but currently this generation of cellular, Reggaeton, light, this way of living and not share this way of being, drugs is an imposition of transnational communication with its television stations transmit your messages where, with the aim of creating a stupid youth groups.
What you are looking for is globalizing to youth, the most sensitive part, then to adults, this task will make them easier, have a very important instrument for that: the TV, the idiot box. Simply, the idiot box tells you, "do not think, think for you, you make all the archetypes you want, meanwhile, rests, stay in a deep sleep almost like a hypnosis", you create a model of sexual tastes, your sexual desires them manipulate them to reactions to boost your impulses will be stored and analyzed. In this way to manipulate your taste, is as if we entered your psyche the times that we want. Horror films are basic for us, audiovisual, media violence and fear that generates in you connoisseurs, allow us to cancel your protection reactions that makes your psyche, making it a docile being. How you can see, you are already voiding your instinctive part and controlling and shaping sexual your part as you are deeply asleep, and that is what we want, we will give you a few small attractions, as well as a monkey given a sweet, to continue their role, they may be, a cap of some baseball, a mobile team to continue as what you are, a spender of energy, to consumer goods.
We are happy to give you all the channels you want, you want Reggaeton?, We have a channel to see the best videos, as is a music act that promotes and small parts of your brain, only a few neurons, this music will start all spiritual possibility, your social conscience, your humanity is latent in all but asleep. This music, if you can talk about music, you print to terrible social violence, to poor concept of women, considering it a bitch, we want you to believe and feel that all women are whores of the worst kind, we also who use drugs and be violent. At the same time through our television out to campaign against a particular product group, Latinos, African descent, implying through the TV studios do see that this community is violent, uncontrollable.
Want to view comics? We will give you a channel of comics, we are happy to compete in this part of our overall programming for annulment of the Latino community, do you know because? from comics of dumbing down in children, more work is done by creating a few patterns of conduct, made aggressive, spending, without any social inhuman behavior, ability to make you feel socially disintegrating of his native, community putting trash in his psyche. We are experts getting spam. For example one of comics that helped us build the American model of life was Superman, this superhero represented the American nation, all powerful, capable of performing any feat, true or false, but this comic was very naive, we now have other more attractive and aggressive, yielding even seizures in children. If you want legitimate violence we have the best series of violence and death, many of these series have a program of video games, where you see running their viscera, cut heads, etc, this generates power close to a future serial killer. You dear friend to friend that reads this article, you do not know the package we are building.
We are currently creating and perfecting a few videos that Violate the sovereignty of some countries uncomfortable games.
If Mr everything we are doing for you, meanwhile do not think, just "sleeps deeply" :twisted:
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I just want to say, what keeps pulling me back into this hoax is the many indiscrepancies. One example (& i know its already ben talked about)
http://www.tmz.com/category/r-i-p/page/2/ (http://www.tmz.com/category/r-i-p/page/2/)
IMO this is the result of the hoax. Why, doesnt TMZ have MJ on its RIP list? Afterall, TMZ was the first to announce his death, common sense tells you, they should have the KING OF POP on their list!
The only reason they wouldnt have MJ on their list, is if he hadnt died.
It tells me MJ is alive.
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On the DVD This is It Right before the movie starts there is some writing in another lauguage. Does anyone know what it says?
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There wasn't something else that I noticed on the TII DVD movie. I have to watch it again and write it down. I noticed in the very beginning and when I find out, I will post it.
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by lpadua11 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:57 pm
On the DVD This is It Right before the movie starts there is some writing in another lauguage. Does anyone know what it says?
What other language and where ?
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Tigger, agree if Michael wanted to disappear and everyone thought he really died, would not have many clues or things that do not fit.
On the subject of the Illuminati, though I definitely think there are, as a comment in my previous thread they control everything, large corporations, media, removed or made presidents, managing the global economy are Conspiring against democratically elected governments and they are uncomfortable, ... look that's well and who did not want to believe is his right, everyone is free to believe what they want ;)
Just for the record? I don't disagree with this at all. Relax, I'm already self educated and convinced. Nothing has really changed since the middle ages, only the packaging and wrapper. They were once called Kings, now they are called Presidents, CEO's, politicians and lawyers. They were once called paupers, now they are called the poor, common man, lower and middle working classes. The "haves" and the "have nots" still exist as they always have. Knowledge, education, talent and appetite are the tools you need to move from "have not" to "have" status but once accomplished, the God-loving and noble thing to do would be to help the "have nots". It's what I enjoy most and your ticket into Heaven, so I believe.
My issue is just when ppl take things out of context and manipulate it for their own agenda (like my example of the Bush hand signs). Being the independent thinker and analytical type, I base my decisions on verifiable facts, not emotions. Especially not manipulated ones. Also for the record...the only TV that I watch are educational programs like Discovery, History (often rewritten) Channel, etc. I find these and books far more mentally stimulating. And as for Hollywood, other than the occasional mind blower movie like Avatar (highly recommended btw, so awesome I have seen it 4 times now) and a few sitcoms, they couldn't write a new classic script to save their butts! It's all junk now. The old black and whites still top my list and capture my attention. Guess that makes me an old fart - lol! ;)
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I think people need to stop looking for all these so called clues about MJ being alive. It is time wasting and if the man is alive, let him live. Yeah there are somethings that happened that seemed off but no one can prove for sure that Michael is alive.
People will look for anything to try to make it seem like he is alive. Like the spider webs in the TII Thriller video. It is spider webs in a haunted house, that in no way means he is alive or a victim of mind control from the Illuminati.
What happened to Michael is sad and the only way to make him live forever is to keep memories of him in a good light, and not forgetting how mean people were to him but forgiving them. I used to believe MJ was alive and used to watch PianoGames' videos and loved watching thinking MJ was alive until I saw the TII special features on the blu ray disc.
They openly acknowledged Michael passing and getting emotional during the subject. No it isn't that I wanted MJ to come back at a certain time but it is because when you step back and look at the so called evidence, you see all of it is circumstantial and there is no concrete proof he is alive.
Yes Michael was a great man but the only evidence that you will ever have of Michael being alive is if he comes back, not blurry pictures or trying to find hidden messages in chris angel advertisements.
Michael was a good man but people need to accept reality and the reality right now is that he is dead. Move on, spread his message of love and live.
It seems you have already decided that Michael is dead and that's fine. However, we on this site believe he is alive. Clues are everywhere that support this. Understand this is not fans want him to be alive therefore he is. In the beginning I too thought he was dead. But when I started to follow, I discovered that is clearly not the case. Are there theories out there with no supporting evidence? Sure. But there are also undeniable facts in support of the clues. Take a minute to peruse the topics on this site if you haven't already, the many links to other websites, videos, statements, etc. You will then will see why we stand behind our statements:
- the death was a hoax
- he is alive
So we continue this investigation while spreading Michael's word of L.O.V.E.
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In no time I said that you think Michael is dead, if I thought otherwise and had withdrawn the forum. ;)
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okey, okey, Tigger is your way of thinking and respect. ;)
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MICHAEL PLS COME BACK WE ALL NEED YOU SO MUCH. IM WAITING FOR THE 3RD UPDATE. MICHAEL YOU ARE MY LIFE
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I just want to say I watched the videos above and the first one confuses me. According to that video giving the peace sign...(index and middle finger) is part of the Illuminati symbols? Also the round peace sign? If this is true, Michael was always doing the peace sign with his fingers. And I just watched a video on you tube that Travis Payne did with the prisoners at the Philippines detention center and at the end of the song they perform (They Don't Care About Us) they make a peace symbol. here is the link to the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI)
So if this is true that these symbols are associated with the Illuminati, then why did Michael use them all the time? Especially the two fingers? This is not giving me a good feeling right now!
God & Love be with us all :)
You see? Confusion...what is true, what is lie, what is the whole point, which is the real intention? Think twice about what was the real message from MJ ...
Has LOVE anything to do with this?
Confusion is better than sleeping ;) To me, it's better to read and learn more and pick up the logical ones for yourself is the best way. There will be no confusion then.
To me that peace sign is used for different things. It is used for Peace and also it is used by evil people with a sign of pentagram. It depends to the person who use that sign and for what. Michael does the V sign too but he uses it for Peace as we all know :)
PureLove, please understand that I don't deny the existence of such things, but is my conclusion (based on my type of logic, which is not necessary the gospel) that what we see in those vids is not the real thing. For me confusion is the worst thing possible; it's like a nightmere with opened eyes...when you think you found something but then another possibility occures ...They know how human logic works and they use it as a weapon. For an instance: do you think it is imposible that Bush used those words in a totally different sense and they twisted them, they put his words out of the context to look how we see them right now? Don't missunderstand me: I'm not a political person AT ALL. For me politics = evil generally speaking. But my instincts tell me that many of those vids are meant to confuse us, to make us afraid...Look, now, whenever we see a nice person waiving the V sign, we will think not only to the joy of that person but also to Illuminaty. Whenever we will se the "make love not war" sign we will do the same. And you do not realize how all these bad energies we are issuing while we think negative are increasing their power. The power of the positive thinking is not a fary tale anymore. It is a fact. And they know this.
Ok, these are my thoughts. I'm not trying to convince anybody to think like me, I don't like to argue either, coz I came in peace, only please be sure you do what your heart & mind is telling you to do.
Of course. It's your opinion and I DO respect it :) Nobody needs to think the same. And in my opinion confusion makes people to dig more and look for more things, search and learn. That's the reason why I think confusion is better than sleeping. But I respect your opinion too. :)
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PureLove wrote; So you say that Michael's body language and all of the illuminati shapes, figures are NOTHING?! I'm sorry but I've read "articles" enough to make me believe illuminati and NWO. And president Bush says it with his own mouth how they created NWO! How could you people still keep on sleeping? And I DO think that those people in different parts of the world ARE wrong.
I think we should leave a little television and go back to libraries, when you say that people are asleep, it is true is asleep, idiotic, blindly believe what they have in the media, media Which they own, look at when you talk about illuminati very few people know what they are talking about, they are the ones that move the economy, remove and put presidents, who are nothing but puppets of these people. Behind all the plans to destabilize governments in Latin America they are, behind the attempted coups that have lived here, are they, that if with the hand-gun for the CIA. If you want to debate with me on these issues stand at the order. :geek:
Its your choice Paula. Think whatever you want to but it is not going to change the truth. And I don't think that I need to stand at the order whatever that is. You're free in what to believe and what to think. Go and keep on believing that. I'm not trying to change nobody's thoughts here. But there're facts in this world and opinions don't change their reality. PERIOD.
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Tigger, agree if Michael wanted to disappear and everyone thought he really died, would not have many clues or things that do not fit.
On the subject of the Illuminati, though I definitely think there are, as a comment in my previous thread they control everything, large corporations, media, removed or made presidents, managing the global economy are Conspiring against democratically elected governments and they are uncomfortable, ... look that's well and who did not want to believe is his right, everyone is free to believe what they want ;)
Just for the record? I don't disagree with this at all. Relax, I'm already self educated and convinced. Nothing has really changed since the middle ages, only the packaging and wrapper. They were once called Kings, now they are called Presidents, CEO's, politicians and lawyers. They were once called paupers, now they are called the poor, common man, lower and middle working classes. The "haves" and the "have nots" still exist as they always have. Knowledge, education, talent and appetite are the tools you need to move from "have not" to "have" status but once accomplished, the God-loving and noble thing to do would be to help the "have nots". It's what I enjoy most and your ticket into Heaven, so I believe.
My issue is just when ppl take things out of context and manipulate it for their own agenda (like my example of the Bush hand signs). Being the independent thinker and analytical type, I base my decisions on verifiable facts, not emotions. Especially not manipulated ones. Also for the record...the only TV that I watch are educational programs like Discovery, History (often rewritten) Channel, etc. I find these and books far more mentally stimulating. And as for Hollywood, other than the occasional mind blower movie like Avatar (highly recommended btw, so awesome I have seen it 4 times now) and a few sitcoms, they couldn't write a new classic script to save their butts! It's all junk now. The old black and whites still top my list and capture my attention. Guess that makes me an old fart - lol! ;)
Tigger, I agree with every single word ... well maybe except for the black and white movies :lol:
What concernes me the most is how they create all the posible conditions for increasing the number of "have-nots". At least I'm talking about Romania and a few other countries around here, but I'm sure they try to make it global. Puting down the educational system and the health system; stuffing the kids with all those crap from TV - like Paula pointed very well - can you see the landscape playing the tape fast forward 20 years from now?
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PureLove wrote; Its your choice Paula. Think whatever you want to but it is not going to change the truth. And I don't think that I need to stand at the order whatever that is. You're free in what to believe and what to think. Go and keep on believing that. I'm not trying to change nobody's thoughts here. But there're facts in this world and opinions don't change their reality. PERIOD.
As I mentioned in a previous thread everyone is free to believe what you want, plus you should not tell me if I carry or not to order what I want, if you do not want to debate you will have their reasons, in other parts of this forum will debate these issues and bad people are participa.Tan Dogmatic positions, those who make a brick calcified knowledge does not evolve, that does not adapt to new circumstances of the time, as the harmful positions that ignore all the theoretical and practical experience of humanity. Rescuing the truth as an ethical value, freedom and the right peak and dignity of all human rights are social achievements. Without justice there will never be peace.
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lol, wow. In case you haven't seen, thisisalsoit.com redirects on this page and i'm suprised it has changed yet :) :)
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the 9 redirects are interesting michael's mission is to save the planet from the corruptions of the media lies and political lies. michael is our heroe
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what's PPL please , i don't kow this , thank you for the answer , the answer to blog http//: mimie7659.skyrock.fr please this is imprtant for me ; god bless you , i love you so much, i'm sorry my english
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I hope more and more people will understand this message. To focus on caring for our environment,others and to not believe everything that is said. This is very very important. We must fight with love for this. I will be there every step of the way Michael.
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Just one question, TS. I'm worried about something. The NWO order won't hurt him if he exposes them will they? I hope we and his security can protect him from such a thing.
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GUYS , beautiful fans... I barely can tape my words to you. I am crying now and I FOUND THE MESSAGE! We don't need to go further!
The real reason of faking is death is ONLY because he wanted to save the planet,US the world . He tried to protect us just all for the LOVE that we can stay alive. After going through all those links above"THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US" and why the song keep saying it!
THEY is the governments who is controlling the media to make us believe lies. THEY ARE GOING TO KILL US! They have already started. PLEASE CHECK ALL THINKS FROM MJALIVE999 ABOVE, ALL THE LINKS ARE HERE!!!
The following is the MESSAGE and all what we need to know, Michael knew everything about what THEY are doing and was THREATENED to be killed, that is why he HAD TO DIE! He had too much impact on us and that would have INTERFER WITH THEIR PLANS TO KILL US!!!
He has used the movie V for VEndetta for starting point!! and all those clues that we have now is to make us understand NOT TO BELIEVE LIES and be AWARE of what is happening!! THIS IS REAL KNOWLEDGE!!
V for VEndetta is the reference. He is V and we are the people he will COME BACK when we are all going to believe that THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US and not before.THE BAM at the end of the movie of V is Michael. HE will do HIS BAM and COME BACK when we will be all reunited as ONE for the judgment day!! PLEASE WATCH THE MOVIE!!!
The movie AVATAR's message is : HOW WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR PLANET and HOW we should be living
THe movie 2012: Is the WARNING!!!! The milky way !! THE sun /the earth and the moon will be aligned at in DEcember 2012 (it is scientifically proven) and it happens 1 time every 25 billions of year . THEN NATURAL DESASTERS will happen because the poles of the earth will change a bite so it will make some bad movements inside of the earth!! THEY will use this OPPORTUNITY to cause MORE DAMAGES and kill people because of DEPOPULATION!!!
THE MESSAGE OF FAITH IS: If we keep the FAITH in MICHEAL being ALIVE and STAY as ONE HE WILL THEN COME BACK
ALL THE LINKS ABOVE PROVES THAT they don't really care about us!
GUYS I AM VERY VERY SCARED!
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Wow, all that depth and this is your first post too?
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Yes I also seen and read something about the alignement of planets and the pole shift induced even about a planet x or Nibiru coming in our system. It is said that they don't want us to be aware about that to avoid to create panic and to prevent us from being prepared. :? So it's not the end of the world but a BIG CHANGE... :o
Don't know what to think anymore...
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Thanks TS for yet another up lefting message I have to confess I have my days I think that this is all a cruel joke on Michaels fans and someone is just getting a big laugh on our part .. I truely hurt everyday not knowing if Michael is safe or not , I know we have alot of work to do for Michael to spread his message to save this world to make it safe for our children and their children ..and I get that and I try to do alitttle more to do this everyday .. where before June the 25 I didn't really do my part as much .
I pray your in a good place Michael and you see where we do love you and care deeply for you and your saftey .And we will try to stay strong for you and support your couses , No matter now many people say I'm crazy to think your alive I will never give up on you and your love you have for us .. we know you will not let us down . we know you'll come back in your time .
I pray for you everyday and I always will ..
I miss you from the bottom of my heart . Lori.
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i so believe its like this..he is still alive and well.. :?love you Mike come back please i ve missed you so much :(
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Yes I also seen and read something about the alignement of planets and the pole shift induced even about a planet x or Nibiru coming in our system. It is said that they don't want us to be aware about that to avoid to create panic and to prevent us from being prepared. So it's not the end of the world but a BIG CHANGE...
Don't know what to think anymore...
Just beleive that whatever is the one that is coming is not ...good for THEM ...
and "they" know it .
That's why "they"don't want us to be aware of and not because "they" don't want to create panic.
Afterall , don't forget "THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US" ;)
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Nostradamus and MJ:
Well,i am interested in Nostradamus predictions and this is what i found- it has connections with MJ in my opinion:
scientisc don't know how to understand simple for us-believers- sentence:
they say: "new Michael will rise from dead the old Michael"=in simpliest words
of course the word Michael is hidden, and scientists know he is some kind of archangel
i have the book of Nostradamus from 1995 with predictions untill 2100 (2100- almost 4000 explained only in a few sentences), BUT EVERYTHING MATCHES, MJ is sent by GOD as a messenger
in a short way, the most important centuria about MJ:
(David Ovasome: Secret preditions of Nostradamus)
centuria X 72
L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois
Du ciel viendra un grand Roy d'effrayeur
Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angoulmois.
Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.
it means:
in 666 beast year/ (some say in 2087 or in 1999 in July)
from heaven the great king of entertainment will step by on earth (see connections with MJ-as a King of POP)
and HE ( is the same person from above) will rise from dead the old Archangel Michael
just before the good-belivers will fight with time-belivers - fortunately
of course it is my interpretation knowing MJ and the comment i attache below in a short way, there are many speculation in an articul of meaning of many words, but i did my own interpretation, isn't it interesting? Find Nostradamus predictions , centuries and search for yourself....
(only polish wersion:)
http://www.cybertech.net.pl/online/rozw ... nostra.htm (http://www.cybertech.net.pl/online/rozwaz/nostra/nostra.htm)
Yvonne
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I read Century X Quatrain 72 and it REALLY says this:
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
Doesn't really describe MJ. Where'd you get "king of entertainment" from?
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I read Century X Quatrain 72 and it REALLY says this:
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
Doesn't really describe MJ. Where'd you get "king of entertainment" from?
DEAR FRIEND, U WROTE THE BASIC MEANING - SCIENTISC HAVE SHOWN IT FOR YEARS BUT IN MY LINK (ARTICAL) THERE WERE EXPLAINED MANY OTHER DIFFERENT MEANINGS (IN POLISH UNFORTUNATELY) OF EACH WORD, AND AFTER THAT I FIXED THEM ALL IN
SO MY INTERPRETATION IS OK, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WHAT WORDS U USE, CHECK MY LINK-I KNOW IT IS NOT IN YOUR LANGUAGE, BUT U WILL REALISE HOW MANY DIFFERENT MEANINGS EACH WORD HAS FROM THIS CENTURIA,
I ONLY TOOK THOSE WHO ARE CONNECTED WITH MICHAEL
U,MY FRIEND, USE THE OFFICIAL PRINTED INTERPRETIATION OF MOST COMMON VERSION,
IN MY LINK WHOLE PAGE COVERS SO MANY DIFFERENT MEANINGS OF ONLY THESE 4 LINES OF CENTURIA
SO IF U LOOK UP IN INTERENT MORE, U WILL FIND NOT ONLY THE ONE INTERPRETATION THAT U GAVE, I KNOW U HAD A BOOK PRINTED WITH ONLY ONE MEANING OF CENTURIA, BUT THERE ARE MANY OF THEM EXPELAINING EVERY SENTENCE WITH MORE DETAILED WAY-AS MY LINK FOR EXAMPLE, SO...I HOPE IT WILL INTEREST U ENOUGH TO LOOK UP MORE...
DON'T BE MAD ON ME, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WHAT IS PRINTED BY OFFICIAL MEDIA, I LOOK UP BY MYSELF-AS MICHAEL WANTS US TO DO
SO THE CHOICE IS YOURS, OF COURSE
IN MY LINK JUST LOOK, HOW MANY SENTENCES DESCRIBE ONLY 4 SENTENCES FROM THIS CENTURIA, U WILL SEE, THE WORD ARE COLOURED, U DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT (IN POLISH)
BEST REGARDS,
YVONNE
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ok, here is it the most important for u
in short:
Roy Angoulmois is Archangel Michael (Angoulmois comes from 3 words from GREEN LANGUAGE)
un grand Roy= great king (meaning new great Roy)
effeayeur=to alarm/to create/to make fun/to entertain/a fear
le grand Roy (meaning last/old/ great Roy)
un grand Roy=le grand Roy=the same person but the difference is in adjectives
L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois=in the beast year 666/ in 1999 in july (and seven months)/2087
pan bonheur-fortunately
or if u devide bon and heur it means:
bon-archangel Michael
heur- opposite Archangel of Michael-Ahriman-Time Owner Archangel
Mars= a/to fight/ war
bye, i hope i explained
Yvonne
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@IDK3MJ you might like this:
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.co ... ybook.html (http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/earthhistorybook.html)
I must say this is too much for me, at least for the moment, but the reading is interesting.
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Murray is about to get arrested. So what's next? :(
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look this ralu http://mimie7659.skyrock.com/ (http://mimie7659.skyrock.com/)
all right kisses
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@IDK3MJ you might like this:
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.co ... ybook.html (http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/earthhistorybook.html)
I must say this is too much for me, at least for the moment, but the reading is interesting.
wow, Ralu, thank u....i will study this carefully tomorrow (i read it already but 1 eye), everything matches....
of course i have more proofs that Michael Jackson is a massanger of light...GOD's light.....i will try to find the fan from this www, who mentioned something about Bible-and MJ related sentences...
but first, i must finish V for Vendetta film, i belive MJ produced him or cooperated....u all must see, it is in parts on "youtube"
Yvonne
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@IDK3MJ you might like this:
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.co ... ybook.html (http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/earthhistorybook.html)
I must say this is too much for me, at least for the moment, but the reading is interesting.
This site was brought up quite a while ago and I think it is very good and fitting, thanks for the reminder. :D
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merci beaucoup je t aime enormement
pour les liens et les sous liens et les sous sous liens
imcyk , je te remercie beaucoup que dieu te benisse et te protege
zmt , yrral king of pop , ce n est pas facile la vie avec tous ses codes d honneurs et ces secrets non diviulgues, j ai hate de grandir d'un an, pour avoir la sagesse de l age , alucinada m aide enormement dans mes nuits sans dormir , mais il y a beaucoupo de travail, et mon amie n arrive plus a suivre, j ai mis mes chaussures rouges mais j ai du mal, a marcher ca glisse sur le chemin jaune rempli d eau par la pluie et alice m emerveille toujours autant et mehto mehte et hanlo M. m on t fait tellement rire que j ai failli tomber par terre lol :o :lol: je m amuse beaucoup sinon a suivre les fleches donnees ça m evite de me perdre, souvent moi aussi je me coupe les cheveux tous les six ou sept mois pour changer de tete , et j y crois en la presence d un ange qui me dit que je suis belle
you're understand for love kisses of small mimie7659 normandy france
ahahahah :lol:
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I would like to say first of all, the public has no right to invade any persons bereavement nor look at or shoot pictures of possible deaths. I think it is wrong that people are looking to see Michael's . If I was part of Michaels family, I wouldn't care what the public nor fans thought if they didn't see tears coming down the family members face. Who are you, to get swallowed up from sensationalism. Where are the morals? I thought everyone have them.. Oh by the way if you are not around a loved one 24/7 and you get a phone call and/ or turn on the tv and hear that your brother has died or son has died how would you feel..? then to find out that its more media lies. The media tells us that Michael was on alot of prescription drugs and that he had a heart attack. Was it something else going on who knows not you nor do I but his family knows.. I think the evidence that Jermaine gave, when he said 'this is not, this is it but not the final curtain call', that was a clue. When Michael B the keyboard player was on a latenight show and he was asked a question about Michael the 'clue for us was, when he said 'I hope' I don't get in trouble for this' Why would he get in trouble, and who would be the person that he gets in trouble by? My head hurts I'm out..
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@IDK3MJ you might like this:
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.co ... ybook.html (http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/earthhistorybook.html)
I must say this is too much for me, at least for the moment, but the reading is interesting.
wow, Ralu, thank u....i will study this carefully tomorrow (i read it already but 1 eye), everything matches....
of course i have more proofs that Michael Jackson is a massanger of light...GOD's light.....i will try to find the fan from this www, who mentioned something about Bible-and MJ related sentences...
but first, i must finish V for Vendetta film, i belive MJ produced him or cooperated....u all must see, it is in parts on "youtube"
Yvonne
Welcome, Yvonne. Enjoy it!
I too consider Michael a gift from God. But in my opinion, if we want to succeed in making other people understanding his mission too, we should be cautios about how we describe his divine gift. I think it is better to keep it on Earth and to point to everybody what an unbelievebly wonderful HUMAN he is. LOVE and Peace to you!
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@IDK3MJ you might like this:
http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.co ... ybook.html (http://www.archangelmichaelsconclave.com/earthhistorybook.html)
.....i will try to find the fan from this www, who mentioned something about Bible-and MJ related sentences...
Yvonne
Welcome, Yvonne. Enjoy it!
I too consider Michael a gift from God. But in my opinion, if we want to succeed in making other people understanding his mission too, we should be cautios about how we describe his divine gift. I think it is better to keep it on Earth and to point to everybody what an unbelievebly wonderful HUMAN he is. LOVE and Peace to you!
Yes, Ralu, i understood, i must be carefull with the language, i must write about the mission without making HIM someone saint, for people it is easier to believe, not everybody believes in THE Creator...who ever it is......
Good advise for me....THANK U AGAIN
Yvonne (from Poland so we are neighbours !!!)
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@TS
Does TIAI have a Twitter account? http://twitter.com/thisisalsoit (http://twitter.com/thisisalsoit)
You never wrote anything about Mind Control here but on Twitter you give video links and links about Mind Control. Can u pls explain us what kind of relation does Michael have with the mind control? How did they control Michael's mind and what did they do to him?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7bHIvzD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7bHIvzDqiI&feature=player_embedded) maybe this will help
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thank you for sous liens lol , j ai trouve un forum tres sympa ou il y a deux choses magnifique je vous laisse decouvrir , merci aux fans de tout pays et merci a ceux qui chantent we are the world je vous mets les liens c est superbe , que dieu vous protegent kisses de normandie france
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIZT5q0Gic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIZT5q0Gic) we are the world
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dac_1248898571 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dac_1248898571) the fans are very good , thank you , and the policeman is very good lol
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[bInfinitylady » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:01 pm
There wasn't something else that I noticed on the TII DVD movie. I have to watch it again and write it down. I noticed in the very beginning and when I find out, I will post it.
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Ok, I finally had a chance to look at the beginning of the DVD. Ofcourse, it was my mom's bootleg one(which I don't care much about).
Here is what I saw in the beginning...
It was the Spring of 2009....
On June 25th, Michael and his team were eight days away from traveling to London to begin their final dress rehearsals for an unprecedented 50 sold out concerts.
With the permission of the Michael Jackson's estate and thanks to a few cameras that caught the magic, here is a glimpse of the passionate gift Michael was preparing for his fans and the audience of the world.
This is it![/b]
Okay, I don't see anything about a memoir anywhere, no mention of it whatsoever only the part about the permission of the MJs estate.
I thought this was interesting and didn't know if anyone noticed this in the beginning when the DVD comes on.
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The news about Murray's getting arrested are so stressfull really. Wish TIAI had something to calm us down :| (just except the Mind Control videos and etc I mean) We're not feeling well about the recent Murray news :(
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This is the first time I read this post, and the last time I'll be reading TIAI updates ever again.
Waste of my time. Pure and utter BS. There is no proof in what TS says at all. S/he always claims that if we read it, we will find our proof. I never do. I always kept up with His/Her updates but they get less and less convincing as time goes on. S/he has been very deceiving. They have a good way with words and they know how to turn a whole lot of nothing into a whole lot of something.
Michael didn't fake his death to save the planet.
Yes, he liked nature and all, but that didn't stop him from living in a huge mansion and driving a limo. Remember Neverland Ranch, how many achers of land do you think had to clear for that? You don't want to hear this, but it's the truth. Michael was a great person, and he loved nature, but he wouldn't die for it.
He didn't die to spread the message of L.O.V.E.
do you guys remember "Sony kills music"? when he protested Sony?
Yes he was a loving person, but that didn't stop him for standing up for himself when he needed too.
DO NOT BASE YOU'RE THEORIES ON THINGS THAT WE HAVE NO PROOF EVEN EXISTS.
Everybody believes in the Illuminati and Mind Control, but where is your proof that it exists?
Where is your proof that Michael is being controled by it?
I'll bet you all the money in the world that most of you have never even heard of the illuminati before June 25. Ill bet that most of you weren't even interested in it until Souza&Mo posted their theory. Did you investigate it yourself, or did you just take their word for it?
You're creating theories assumeing it's real. You know what happens when you assume things.
Stop putting all your faith into people who claim to know things. Investigate for yourself. If they provide no proof, don't assume it's real. I wasn't going to say anything until I saw all the comments under this thread, I can't not say anything.
I'll stop here.
Have a nice day :D
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"I'll bet you all the money in the world that most of you have never even heard of the illuminati before June 25. Ill bet that most of you weren't even interested in it until Souza&Mo posted their theory. Did you investigate it yourself, or did you just take their word for it?"
Well, I for one knew about the Illuminate, NWO, Freemasons, Jesuits, and other secret societies long before ANY hoax site was ever started!
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Yes, he liked nature and all, but that didn't stop him from living in a huge mansion and driving a limo. Remember Neverland Ranch, how many achers of land do you think he had to clear for that? You don't want to hear this, but it's the truth. Michael was a great person, and he loved nature, but he wouldn't die for it.
That was a little world comparing it with all the places where we are able to walk carefree, in privacy, with nobody chaising us. Why don't you also remember the huge amounts that he donated for people in need and for nature? Why are more important the things that could be interpretated as incriminating a person, than the ones that are unquestionably exonerating him?
He didn't die to spread the message of L.O.V.E.
do you guys remember "Sony kills music"? when he protested Sony?
Yes he was a loving person, but that didn't stop him for standing up for himself when he needed too.
And does this make him less loving? That just proves that he is a HUMAN afterall, he's not God, he's not a saint. That doesn't erase all the things that he did in order to demonstrate that he cares for the nature, people, love, humanity. Maybe in those moments he realised that Sony (or better said T. Mottola) was standing between him and his art. And if "dieing" helped him to save himself, to create a new kind of performance and to spread love in the same time, why not?
Everybody believes in the Illuminati and Mind Control, but where is your proof that it exists?
Where is your proof that Michael is being controled by it?
that I don't believe either. I do believe in the conspiracies and political corruption, but giving them that importance makes them much to powerful. IMO this is a trap: the mind control bigins with being whiched by all tose stories and vids about NWO. Instead of our preocupation of uniting ourselvs with the specific purpose of creating a better world, with staying in the light of love and righteusness, we are nurturing those dark energies. It is a shame! Remember this: you are what you spread. No one who's spreading love and positive feelings and hope and faith will ever be mind controlled. Remember Prince's speach: Michael's message was SIMPLE and you can find it in all his songs: LOVE. For me this speaks volumes and this is exactely what he told us all the time: "What we need to learn from children isn’t childish. Being with them connects us to the deepest wisdom of life, which is ever-present and only asks to be lived. Now, when the world is so confused and its problems are so complicated, I feel we need our children more than ever. Their natural wisdom points the way to solutions that lie, waiting to be recognized, within our own hearts."
I have no other words to say this ... I tried to share this with you several times. This is the last try. The sollution is so simple and right in front of our eyes. So sad that sometimes we cannot see the forest because the trees are in our way...
With LOVE. Hugs.
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one time again, Ralu, yours words touch my heart, really!!!you are right, LOVE is the key, Michael do love evry times he can, you must do like him, with our family, fiends and all of you !!!!stop to try to understand between lines, it's so simple, live your life and live your love !!!stay in the light ....it's the better thing to do , now!love you all my firends and trust in YOU
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[/color]This is the first time I read this post, and the last time I'll be reading TIAI updates ever again.
Waste of my time. ........
Everybody believes in the Illuminati and Mind Control, but where is your proof that it exists?
Where is your proof that Michael is being controled by it?
let me answer to your question about the proof u want :
""think about MJ this way, that showing his own death he did something that no one did to proove how media manipulation works, MJ wants people to be aware, what these guys (iLLUMINATTI) r doing and what they did to him, lies in newspapers...give me your picture and i will print in my country something wrong about u...and u are done as MJ, damage will be done...because people-readers-belive in what they read, they don't care if it is true...so hard to think for them unless it conserns them... "
your words make me think that it is also too hard for u to think...u want proofes, seems u didn't read all informations covered in this web page and others......this web page is a sum of others in a short way....we don't belive in MO and Suza, we just have the same point of view....did u get the DEFFERENCE? in Poland we say....almost makes the difference, so we are all here, like MO and Suza, to shre our point of view but we also have the right to decide what to belive in...
by the way-have u read any of MJ's songs? with understanding what is written? if yes, why u are still looking for more proofes, it is all in there...
U wrote:
I'll bet you all the money in the world that most of you have never even heard of the illuminati before June 25. Ill bet that most of you weren't even interested in it until Souza&Mo posted their theory. Did you investigate it yourself, or did you just take their word for it?
my answer:
i don't have to investigate them (Mo and Suza), it is also impossible to investigate Illuminati, i am a victim of Illuminayi and i gave the case to court, still lasts (6 years...), my opinion is the same: i knew about Illuminati before MJ "died", but MJ's "death" made many (who didn't know about them) of us to THINK..., so u have at least one proof here...just use your mind...
and about believing or not, i believe Mo and Suza because i belive in LOVE and how about u? -maybe u could build such a side and oppose to all our opinions...all u do is opposing...nothing more creative...???
i also do not believe in MJ, i LOVE him, i belive in his good intensions,i am still trying to understand them
i also do not belive in goverments, i hate them, i do not follow them, they give nothing but promisses
i also do not belive that everything with our planet will be ok, scientists prooved that-so i try to find people who care...MJ is one of them, and his fans...
DO U BELIEVE IN ANYTHING? CAUSE FROM YOUR WORDS I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING MJ MENTIONS : LOVE, FAITH,
to whom and in what to believe is your choice of course, i also have that right so please don't tell me or others what to do, if u don't want to read what others want to say about MJ (i am not saying to believe them...) simply don't open this side...
FOR ME U R LIKE A CHILD ANGRY THAT DIN'T GET WHAT WANTED...UNPATIENT AND MAD WHEN NOT SATISFIED LIKE U WANTED...
go to sleep sheep, go to sleep sheep, u didn't understand MJ and his mission
Yvonne
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I created this account JUST to respond to Diana Jean
You pointed out that Michael had to clear a lot of land to make Neverland.
THAT is not true. Michael's Neverland Ranch was a ranch that already existed BEFORE he bought it in 1988.. The only thing he did was add what he wanted to the ALREADY CLEARED land.
The mansion, and the acres, were already there. This is the same ranch they filmed the Say Say Say video on, YEARS BEFORE MICHAEL HAD EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING IT! In fact, at that time, PAUL MCCARTNEY was considering buying the ranch.
So, no, Michael didn't clear any land. In fact, he left a lot of his acres alone. He built the train station, the zoo, and made a few changes to the mansion and the main grounds (adding the guest cottages and what not), but the majority of his land was left the way it was when he bought it. He liked it that way.
:)
And now that I'm officially a registered member, I can begin to give my thoughts and opinions about this hoax... which is where all signs seem to be pointing IMO, and I have been a skeptic before (I'm not easily convinced of things... which I guess is why I have been on Michael's side for so long throughout his life. I was never easily convinced of the bs that was put out about him.)
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Dear friends,
please vote for Michael,
http://www.whopopular.com/Michael-Jackson (http://www.whopopular.com/Michael-Jackson)
thank u for your support,
Yvonne
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I created this account JUST to respond to Diana Jean
You pointed out that Michael had to clear a lot of land to make Neverland.
THAT is not true. Michael's Neverland Ranch was a ranch that already existed BEFORE he bought it in 1988.. The only thing he did was add what he wanted to the ALREADY CLEARED land.
The mansion, and the acres, were already there. This is the same ranch they filmed the Say Say Say video on, YEARS BEFORE MICHAEL HAD EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING IT! In fact, at that time, PAUL MCCARTNEY was considering buying the ranch.
So, no, Michael didn't clear any land. In fact, he left a lot of his acres alone. He built the train station, the zoo, and made a few changes to the mansion and the main grounds (adding the guest cottages and what not), but the majority of his land was left the way it was when he bought it. He liked it that way.
:)
And now that I'm officially a registered member, I can begin to give my thoughts and opinions about this hoax... which is where all signs seem to be pointing IMO, and I have been a skeptic before (I'm not easily convinced of things... which I guess is why I have been on Michael's side for so long throughout his life. I was never easily convinced of the bs that was put out about him.)
Yes, you are absolutley correct about Neverland.
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let me answer to your question about the proof u want :
""think about MJ this way, that showing his own death he did something that no one did to proove how media manipulation works, MJ wants people to be aware, what these guys (iLLUMINATTI) r doing and what they did to him, lies in newspapers...give me your picture and i will print in my country something wrong about u...and u are done as MJ, damage will be done...because people-readers-belive in what they read, they don't care if it is true...so hard to think for them unless it conserns them... "
You lost me there. The illuminati doesn't print the news paper.
You still showed me no proof what-so-ever, where's your proof that the illuminati is controling the media?
your words make me think that it is also too hard for u to think...
right back at cha.
u want proofes, seems u didn't read all informations covered in this web page and others......this web page is a sum of others in a short way....we don't belive in MO and Suza, we just have the same point of view....did u get the DEFFERENCE? in Poland we say....almost makes the difference, so we are all here, like MO and Suza, to shre our point of view but we also have the right to decide what to belive in...
I didn't tell you what to believe in, I said to investigate for yourself. The point of my post was to adress the issue that everybody believes in everything TS says, and there is no proof that what s/he says is true.
by the way-have u read any of MJ's songs? with understanding what is written? if yes, why u are still looking for more proofes, it is all in there...
Yes I have. Allot of his songs have sexual references, is that the work of the illuminati? Or do they only control what he writes some of the time?
i don't have to investigate them (Mo and Suza), it is also impossible to investigate Illuminati, i am a victim of Illuminayi and i gave the case to court, still lasts (6 years...), my opinion is the same: i knew about Illuminati before MJ "died", but MJ's "death" made many (who didn't know about them) of us to THINK..., so u have at least one proof here...just use your mind...
I didn't say to investigate Souza and Mo. There's nothing about them to investigate, there two hoaxers just like you and me are two hoaxers.
You can't investigate the illuminati?
Glad you cleared that up for me.
and about believing or not, i believe Mo and Suza because i belive in LOVE and how about u? -maybe u could build such a side and oppose to all our opinions...all u do is opposing...nothing more creative...???
What in the world does believing Souza and Mo have to do with beliving in LOVE? Nothing more creative? You're opposing me right now! I'm pretty confidant in my creativity thanks.
i also do not believe in MJ, i LOVE him, i belive in his good intensions,i am still trying to understand them
i also do not belive in goverments, i hate them, i do not follow them, they give nothing but promisses
i also do not belive that everything with our planet will be ok, scientists prooved that-so i try to find people who care...MJ is one of them, and his fans...
I kinda agree with most of that, give or take a few things but none the less.
DO U BELIEVE IN ANYTHING? CAUSE FROM YOUR WORDS I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING MJ MENTIONS : LOVE, FAITH,
I believe in plenty of things thanks.
to whom and in what to believe is your choice of course, i also have that right so please don't tell me or others what to do, if u don't want to read what others want to say about MJ (i am not saying to believe them...) simply don't open this side...
Don't open this side? How can you get anything done if you don't take all sides into consideration? You can't.
FOR ME U R LIKE A CHILD ANGRY THAT DIN'T GET WHAT WANTED...UNPATIENT AND MAD WHEN NOT SATISFIED LIKE U WANTED...
go to sleep sheep, go to sleep sheep, u didn't understand MJ and his mission
Hey, DITTO.
I wish people wouldn't miss understand me so much. I never said Michael wasn't a loving person, I never said Michael didn't care about nature.
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Although I have read diana t jeans, and I'll keep my cool because michael and my faith has taught me the I'm working on Michael Jackson and the world government since July, I work between 10 pm to 15 hours per night , I have 38 years so I am not a child and I have the age to understand things and I've lost my whole family is ok the c on me if you're smart you will understand the explanations that I have lived very young and one and I know life better than anyone, I have lived in poverty, since my 13 years c is why I know the arguments of Michael, I've experienced the same thing to c the difference is that he has learned to cultivate its gifts that God gave him and I saw through my faith
1) on Michael Jackson, and luxurious limousine home, why the judge should have t work since the age of 9 years and do not live your childhood, because one must work to help the family and you get millions of dollars a month by your work, you do not please would you
2) know that it pays 400 million dollars to help the poor know that it goes into the hospital to see sick children who are terminally ill or goes to orphanages to offer gifts to the children before each concert and that he fights even for HAITI
3) know that Neverland is not what No comfort for Michael even though he was largely right, he has also accommodate sick children and poor and that he WAS NOT nor requires, tell me what star am the same thing as him, I have 38 years and I think I understand it, I've known the THRILLER years and his debut solo and I have no recollection of a star who makes a quarter of what he has done for poverty and disease
4) It is horrible indeed fortunate that a star as he keeps his fans in his arms and salutes the crowd at each passage and say he loves us and speaks as if it is his own family that is hateful and it c is the irony because I think you go too far without knowing j ah yes I know also forgets that he has a part of his family
5) when the Illuminati I were like you, I knew and I did not look for articles and videos are real, the Illuminati began appearing in 1776 by the Freemasons who have become the worse is to say in Illuminati in 1793, the illuminati I did not know I knew that there was poverty and wickedness in the world but it is manufactured by them at the base since the No human being is not bad, given that it is the children of god, you want to know, will look on you tube tape Rockefeller, the fake warming of the planet, obama, illuminati .... and if you look good you will find the real scientists who report having been paid to believe that the warming of the planet was due to CO2, not! still looking for Aaron Spelling WAS a filmmaker he has denounced a Rockefeller with whom he spoke, six months after he died of cancer in which we were unaware, by looking carefully you will find that the great Einstein warned us against scientists who were paid to lie about us all even AIDS, avian and swine war even the titanic .... there are plenty of others that goes back so far even our dear Napoleon in part, to reduce their population to 500 thousand people instead of a few billion people 500 miles be why humans can manage the billions but they can revolt at any time, a powerful man said that the great secrets were to be seen to know that they are fat people do not believe it when the little secrets that he must be hiding, martin luther king, Marilyn Monroe, Bob Marley in France coluche, Daniel Balavoine ... ... you think they had died from what's natural disease OLD AGE or not they were denounced and disappear
6) michael victim illuminatis certainly I could even tell you a little near the years and why c is simple, a rich African American I would say that is extremely rich and concerts which is above the presidents because people are amazed by a male child to look so sweet and so affectionate that has enormous power to convince people through his music with his talent, the sweetness and tenderness in his voice and gestures
7) to conclude I am on the threshold of poverty, we could offer me millions of euros to stop work and love of Michael I would say no, I'm good like that and I believe in god then for the money and power that n is not god, you think why the Africa remains a poor country, so that they have coal and the gold and many other things but Africans die every day every minute to see why, for the sole reason that s they became rich, they could counter the so-called great men, only by their faith and kindness so they must remain slaves and poor of the world system if the world would no longer work by the money power of lust ... ..
8) I am not a working girl ready to fall into the arms of Michael Jackson but I love this man for his humanity for his belief, for all he can bring to our beautiful blue planet, for his music by his intelligence by his loyalty people ... ...... No and you're not control the Illuminati, lol you think that when you go to work for your small salary and you're too tired that returned in the evening you just want to watch television in your entertainment even as they control them and terminator matrix .... No have not been the chance to control your brain is by the television, your mobile is monitored there are cameras everywhere without your knowing, you know nothing opens your eyes, you know everything cois and you know nothing absolutely nothing reveille you life is not pink n j espere May God protect you and bless you because your ignorance and fear are your wickedness, your ruling is detrimental to the humanity, before you correct that it is big later kisses of Normandy France
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FOR DIANA JEAN:
U wrote u were not planning to visit this side again? right?
so, don't waste place ....thank u
and don't waste my time, cause i am going to visit this web page again !!!
find yourself another web page....
Yvonne
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FOR DIANA JEAN:
U wrote u were not planning to visit this side again? right?
so, don't waste place ....thank u
and don't waste my time, cause i am going to visit this web page again !!!
find yourself another web page....
Yvonne
Um, no I didn't say that. Not anywhere. I said I wasn't going to read anything posted by TS again.
Everybody is missing the point of my OP.
Maybe I wasn't clear in what message I was trying to send. I'll try again.
Do not believe in everything anybody tells you. Always question,demand proof and investigate for yourself. I'm making my post in reguards to everybody who is putting complete faith into everything TS says. This is for the people who are assuming that TS is real and are following everything s/he says.
Sorry if I wasn't clear in my original post.
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j I forgot to mention something so I forbid t say anything bad about Michael knowing that the Illuminati have done everything that Michael goes to one pedophile and I work on the two stories and I cry every time by reading both suffering and incomprehension of his gaze, to demolish the eyes of his fans in the audience calling him on what he likes and cherrie both children what stupidity, to remove any AC power that it has on real people, myself I am also surrounded by children and then, I have more confidence in adults and it s my duty then to all this I would fight until the end for him even if I have to leave for months or years I m crazy c my priority is raising my daughters
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Let's play with your game: proove you own sentences:
1. There is no proof in what TS says at all. S/he always claims that if we read it, we will find our proof.
2.Michael didn't fake his death to save the planet, of course not, it wasn't just one goal to achieve...
3.he wouldn't die for it.
4.He didn't die to spread the message of L.O.V.E.
5.Where is your proof that Michael is being controled by it?-where is your proove that he wasn't?
I need a proof of your statements, because as u wrote: we can't " BASE THEORIES ON THINGS THAT HAVE NO PROOF..".
I wonder whether u saw things correctly, u urgue but it is u who doesn't give proofs...and even if u do give them, there can be someone new, another Diana Jean nr 2, who will disagree with u....
my point is, u can't make Mo and Suza or all of us, to give proofs, we don't have them, all these statements on this web page are our thoughts, and some of them match or are similar to others thoughts and this web page is just a place to write about them, so if we all had proofs, this web page wouldn't exist....my sister's husband is a prosecutor and i know "a little" about proofs....even if u get them there are always ways to oppose them....
P.S. English is my third language so sorry for spelling.....:)
Yvonne
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For DIANA JEAN:
In many sentences u attack Micheal, that is why u will be attacked...u can always place your opinion without attacking HIM,otherwise, there always will be someone who will fight with u using your own gun: words,
so i give u my advise: if u didn't watch V for Vendetta-try to get it...and watch it....
and the proofs that u want? proove me that u weren't born as a donckey....just because u look like human doesn't mean u r human.....
Yvonne
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For DIANA JEAN:
In many sentences u attack Micheal, that is why u will be attacked...u can always place your opinion without attacking HIM,otherwise, there always will be someone who will fight with u using your own gun: words,
so i give u my advise: if u didn't watch V for Vendetta-try to get it...and watch it....
and the proofs that u want? proove me that u weren't born as a donckey....just because u look like human doesn't mean u r human.....
Yvonne
I never bad talked Michael. I would never. Please, re read my original post.
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evidence are my searches, I searched the web every night same day I found you n have no idea but I am silent out of respect for Michael c is a d explain it was not me, I have over 200 videos about michael and hundreds on the Illuminati j have over 1,000 items or j have been links of links under the sub links on michael, all things are hidden TS makes us understand rediirections because we must look beyond the traditional items, ca and c is evidence, knowledge manage its files are, I give one to respect for michael nobody will know her secrets from me, you'll know in time when Michael will decide, I would stay silent, you can see my blog there s nothing of the secrets of Michael except what he wanted it to appear so if you believe it or nor you want to say unkind to Michael I suggest you d go to another site j've really means to find Your IP address and block your computer, turning then leave Michael alone, he didn't need that you deem it just still need your support and love he has suffered enough stop Enough !!!!!!!
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For DIANA JEAN:
Your attacks of MJ:
1.
Yes, he liked nature and all, but that didn't stop him from living in a huge mansion and driving a limo. Remember Neverland Ranch, how many achers of land do you think had to clear for that? You don't want to hear this, but it's the truth.
2.He didn't die to spread the message of L.O.V.E.
do you guys remember "Sony kills music"? when he protested Sony?
Yes he was a loving person, but that didn't stop him for standing up for himself when he needed too.
3.Everybody believes in the Illuminati and Mind Control, but where is your proof that it exists?
Where is your proof that Michael is being controled by it?
4.A lot of his songs have sexual references, is that the work of the illuminati? Or do they only control what he writes some of the time?
here u are my friend
Yvonne
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evidence are my searches, I searched the web every night same day I found you n have no idea but I am silent out of respect for Michael c is a d explain it was not me, I have over 200 videos about michael and hundreds on the Illuminati j have over 1,000 items or j have been links of links under the sub links on michael, all things are hidden TS makes us understand rediirections because we must look beyond the traditional items, ca and c is evidence, knowledge manage its files are, I give one to respect for michael nobody will know her secrets from me, you'll know in time when Michael will decide, I would stay silent, you can see my blog there s nothing of the secrets of Michael except what he wanted it to appear so if you believe it or nor you want to say unkind to Michael I suggest you d go to another site j've really means to find Your IP address and block your computer, turning then leave Michael alone, he didn't need that you deem it just still need your support and love he has suffered enough stop Enough !!!!!!!
And Michael would really want you to block my computer, right?
I never turned on Michael, and I never will. I never said anything bad about him.
Please, you're missing the point of my original post.
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For DIANA JEAN:
Your attacks of MJ:
1.
Yes, he liked nature and all, but that didn't stop him from living in a huge mansion and driving a limo. Remember Neverland Ranch, how many achers of land do you think had to clear for that? You don't want to hear this, but it's the truth.
You forgot this part, my friend:
"Michael was a great person, and he loved nature" it's funny how you left that out.
And anyways, how is that an attack, enlighten me.
2.He didn't die to spread the message of L.O.V.E.
do you guys remember "Sony kills music"? when he protested Sony?
Yes he was a loving person, but that didn't stop him for standing up for himself when he needed too.
Did I not say he was a loving person? How is saying he stood up for himself an insult?
I didn't say there's anything wrong with that. I think it's great he stood up for himself.
3.Everybody believes in the Illuminati and Mind Control, but where is your proof that it exists?
Where is your proof that Michael is being controled by it?
Okay, insult how? All I did was ask for proof.
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For Diana Jean:
my points from 1 to 4 are pointed on purpose,
u don't understand: let me give u the clue:
u write like this: MJ is a wonderful human being but he is so too rich and stupid....
yes , u didn't write it but can u see what u do? u say one sentence good and next one bad...u gainsay....
no more conversation with u, as RALU says...it is not woth it....
u don't deserve to use MJ's picutes as your signature, in my opinion,
good bye, i will never write to u again, waste of my time....it is u who don't read others' posts and it is u with little faith....
u and your prooves that u ar a human being.....in another post u will propably ask for LOVE definition or proof it really exists because u didn't find it anywhere......[/color]
go to sleep sheep, go to sleep sheep,
Yvonne
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u write like this: MJ is a wonderful human being but he is so too rich and stupid....
yes , u didn't write it but can u see what u do?
Give me a call when you're done insulting me and are ready to have a logical conversation.
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Oh boy.... lot's of thoughts here.
Fascinating!
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/itbmine/MichaelJackson-EatingPopcorn.gif)
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je pense aussi que TS fait tres bien son travail, a part que je voudrai bien savoir ce que veut dire PPL , j ai pas encore trouve pfffffff bisous de normandie france que dieu vous benisse et vous protege tous i love you so much
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@TS
what do you think about Jermaine's tweet?
u guys on that Ustream. We gotta moderate it better, then I'll go on. I don't like reading conspiracy theories. not good.
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IDK3MJ, Mimie, Diana Jeane, all I can say is that from my knowledge, Michael was always humble and forgiving. Even when Eminem attacked him so bad with his vid, he didn't say anything nasty about him...he just pointed that was not a nice thing to do; when Arvizo lied about the sexual abuse, MJ insisted that he was just a sweet child and I don't remember saying any bad word about him; even referring to Gavin's mother he was upset, hurted, but not furious. It is a shame that we, people who love MJ - and we don't face the same awful situations that he did - cannot learn from his message. His ONLY direct message. Dear friends, please forgive, try to feel the LOVE even when you disagree; try to think that maybe one or another was not bad intended in s/his words but maybe you missunderstood. And even if s/he was mean, try to think about what determined s/he to be like that and show understanding and compation instead of punishing. Choose to avoid the conflicts. Do not respond with others bad words. What is the gain from this? Come on, guys, let's just be brothers. Brothers fight from time to time, but never hate eachother. We are just a few; we cannot aford to loose any of us. Of course, this is just a suggestion. Maybe you would like to give it a try. Not to respond with anger is a grate virtue. Hugs. LOVE & PEACE.
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:) Dear Ralu
Thanks so much for Your beautiful words!! I send You much love light and peace and happiness and also to everyone here I send ans wish for You all and everyone worldwide much love peace, happiness and light, so that we may all have what we need to think for ourselves, make our own decisions, and the power to control our own destinies and those things are truly amazing gifts- that sme of us in this home of ours the world just don't have. L.O.V.E is the most powerful energy we can use that and gratitude, they have been proven to turn bad water perfect and bad rivers pure, by scientists. Everything again by scientists has been proven to be energy, including us and so with these precious gifts and forwarding them on and spreading them the best way we can, no matter how big or small we can manage, we will see a difference and make a big difference, and there will come a time with all the positivty focused, prayed for or however any of us offer up our thoughts, wants, prayers; L.O.V.E. will conquer all and be 'the way the truth and the light' for all to see, live for and by and appreciate. L.O.V.E is so beautiful and powerful when it is given truly honestly and purely and unconditionally!! We can all live by it and slowly but surely others will see our example and see how beautiful it is and more will join us in our quest, for people worldwide might not all believe what we believe re MJ - I know I have many around me, but they may love him like we do or just like him or not as an artist of their choice, but one thing we can all agree on is the power and unity that is L.O.V.E and we can all be so truly grateful for that!!! L.O.V.E and GRATITUDE forever and always, to each and every one of You and all the world, for without each other we could not be. Much love, light, peace, Happiness and hugs full of L.O.V.E so much L.O.V.E for You all and to You all and all the world.
all my L.O.V.E
forever and always
Michelle
xoxoxox
ps I have to say in fact I was just saying to my Mum today who also believes what we believe and we were at one of our beautiful rivers here in Dunedin New Zealand, where we had to turn away from enjoying it , as a whole lot of teens had totally trashed it with all their alcohol residue, broken bottles, whole bottles and all their rubbish of the like and more teens were still arrivng and I said since being connected to all You wonderful beautiful people all us United by MJ and our love and belief in him, here and other sites whether hoax or tribute sites- I have not come across such a truly beautiful, loving and dedicated group of people and I mentioned Children as well ( because of what we had just seen) whom are so deep thinking and who either beyond their years or us older people- all of whom have so much more depth of character than any ol' person walking down any street, in respect love and dignity for all living things including our Environment and Earth. All this because we are all united by our L.O.V.E of MJ and waht he stands for!! And for all this I am so proud and was so proud as I told this to my Mum, that we all us here and everywhere have come to be united in something so very truly special that is just so 'Magical' it leaves me 'Speechless' with admiration and I honour all of You and MJ for what positive energy in L.O.V.E that has been created so amazingly and so easily!! And I thank You Mo andSouza and other people whom have created these sites so that we can all unite in this amazing celebration of this wonderful human being Michael J Jackson and all he stands for!! For without You guys and other website developers we all would have no where common to turn to with our thoughts prayers and love for MJ and all else that brings us together!! So thanks so much and 'i Love You all so much' !! I feel like we are all family and friends, and it truly feels great and truly unique and so so very special!! So thanks again and love and hugs and gratitude to You all!! So very sorry to go on and bore anyone!! I had better stop, so I wil close for now!! oh ps with regard to the site my Mum and me saw ( we would love to have cleaned it up if we had had the means to do so, but the area was so very big and all the teens were still there -not necessary all whom had created it, we are going though to let our local Council know so that hopefully some of the envrionmental damage can be undone and any inocent people or animals or wild life won't get hurt) just din't want You all to think we didn't care. and I also thought if MJ as well- as this kind of disrespect he would probably be so angry , but I thought of all of YOU and others and how proud he would be that in his name we have united in L.O.V.E for him and all the Universe and that there are those of us out there trying our best in our humble crusade to turn this kind of thing around and do our best to show love, feel love, work through and for love and keep on keeping on even when it might seem we have little proof , but through our faith and belief in L.O.V.E we know that with every little bit we do and achieve and 'make that change' for the better to 'Heal the World', it is worth it and every single effort we put into it!! Just like Him he never gave up and kept coming back again and again and I do believe he will again, through L.O.V.E and for L.OV.E of all living things -everything, but in his own time!! Forever and always I believe and L.O.V.E Michael and am forever grateful to him now and forever , for all the beautiful gifts he has given me, his music and entertainment and all his knowledge he has shared and his great example of a humantarian that I so want to be like him!! and also all Of You and others I have met , the great gift of all You beautiful people, whom if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have met, know and love, and I L.O.V.E You all and hope we can all forever be together forever family friends united forever in MJ and beacause of him and all he stands for !!
much love light happiness and peace!! and hugs full of love and for anyone alone in thier belief's I send you special hugs to, as alone it can get hard to keep on!! But please know You are not alone for in loving energy we are all united as one!!! :)
forever in L.O.V.E AND GRATITUDE!!
all my love
Michelle ;)
xoxoxo
MIchelle
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@Michelle, so much LOVE in your comment! You're a sweet person. Don't let anyone to spoil your enthusiasm! Believe me, some will try to...
I see you know about "The memory of whater" (Masaru Emoto)...food for the thought, especially if we realize that we are 70% whater, and whatever goes for the whater, goes for us too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIPQSeKH ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIPQSeKHh0E&feature=related)
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Michelle WilkieNZ, always good to read someone who writes such beautiful things, kisses and hugs ;)
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non RALU , je n ai pas de haine, ma haine est passe il y a bien longtemps quand j ai perdu tous ceux que j aimais a partir de l age de 10 ans, apres qu on m est salie depuis toutes ces annees je n ai pas de haine, non mais je ne veux pas qu on salisse Michael pour la simple raison c est que grace a lui et a dieu j ai survecu a tout ce mal que l on m a fait, je suis peut etre rancuniere et defend ceux que j aime mais la haine ne fait pas parti de mon coeur je suis desolee diana jean , j ai tendance a etre trop vivante quand je defends les etres que j aime , que dieu vous benisse et vous protege bisous de normandie france
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si vous pensez que j ai de la haine dans mon coeur autant que je revienne pas bisous
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je vais prendre du recul tout en continuant a rechercher et a continuer sur Michael, je suppose que je dois accepter que l on puisse dire du mal sur lui, et comme mes filles partent en vacances loin de moi pendant une semaine et que j ai mal a mon coeur je vais continuer a faire ce que je fais dans l ombre oui ralu je suis en colere d entendre ça , tu sais comment on nous surnomme en france , les personnes qui ont souffert pour pleins de raisons et ce durant toute leurs vies on nous appelle " les écorchés de la vie" mais je n ai pas de haine seulement de la colere alors je vais prendre du recul et quand ma colere sera passé je reviendrais avant mais si pour vous defendre une personne correspond a la haine, je ne suis pas d accord enfin la verite doit etre su pour moi qui suis honnete mais je m y prends peut etre tres mal je sais pas , c est dur d accepter le jugement perpetuel des autres , c est pour ça que je m isole du monde , je travaille sur moi pour essayer de pardonner aux personnes mais c est tres dur il y a tellement de mechancete , enfin bon je vais prendre mon recul et je reviendrai apres pour vous lire bisous que dieu vous protege et vous benissent
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;) Hello and hope You are all well!! Thank You so very much for Your beautiful comments Ralu and Paula C, You truly touched my heart, made me emotional and I can't thank You lovely people enough You have made my day and night!! Such kindness, thank You!! I will always cherish them.
Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless
- Mother Teresa.
So much truth and for me Michael has been my teacher and every hour of everyday I continue to learn from him, and also fromall You truly beautiful and unique people , and L.OV.E is what connects and binds us, but it's our uniqueness that we have that makes us who we are and gives us our identity of who we are as individuals. We don't have to lose that to become one in L.O.V.E for the causes we believe in, as it is all our individuality that gives us all the brilliant ideas and ways to do things to achieve our/ a common goal!!
So thank You again You both and everyone here I am grateful to you all and Mo and Souza for creating and allowing this site to be!! L.O.V.E You all from the bottom of my heart!! Stay strong, keep the faith and sometimes it maybe easier than said, but one thing I have learned in my life is that to have trust , which in it's most purest form is truly a gift, but also one so hard to 'trust ' and accept is genuine and real, but when You do have that it is easier to keep the faith and stay strong and continue to believe!!
thanks so much agin.
oh and ps. Ralu thanks so much for the Gentleman's name for the water things as I recognised it as soon as You said it, I first heard of him from the movie before 'The Secret' 'What The Bleep?' all about the energy that makes us all - the whole universe, then again I think it was from a Chinese Healer whom I know very well here in Dunedin.
ps just another thought I have just watched 'Moonwalker' again and have twice now have it on again, but I was wondering if any of You have come to a similar conclusion, but it is like MJ was telling us his plans way back then when he made this, as 'Man In The Mirror' is first and has those images of "Mother Teresa" :MartinLuther King" , "JFK", "John Lennon", "Ghandi " (I think it was) etc a few others, then it was like a memorial of him, It made me cry it was like watching all his life up till then, then has 'Leave Me Alone" like the media , then how he changes his identiy /disguises?? and then the sory or mini movie with the Kids and to me that seemed t inovle the theories similar to what ahs been discussed here the Military in numbers like on 'This Is It' and each time he conquers the bad guys re drugs etc drug / maybe brainwashing everyone, from young age,?? and he goes a way for a while and then returns at end. I was thinking in my head the both times I watched that it is like a 'This Is It' back then like he was letting us know the whole plan maybe as during the mini movie it had the Spider (a lot) but it seemed a symbol , and there were loads of others - messages I think anyway , ??? I dont' know does anyone else have similar ideas or conclusions?? jsut curious to know , so jsut thought I'd share!!
thanks again for Your kindness You showed me!!
all my love always and forever from the bottom of my heart to You all!!
take care all my love and hugs!!
Michelle
xoxoxoxo ;)
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TO: MICHELLE
Dear friend,
u wrote:
and he goes a way for a while and then returns at end. I was thinking in my head the both times I watched that it is like a 'This Is It' back then like he was letting us know the whole plan maybe as during the mini movie it had the Spider (a lot) but it seemed a symbol , and there were loads of others - messages I think anyway , ??? I dont' know does anyone else have similar ideas or conclusions?? jsut curious to know
here is a link to 13 parts of videos, i hope u will enjoy them, if u saw invastigation proofs on this side or on youtube.com, u can start with 6 or 7 video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JbzrHUQyLQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JbzrHUQyLQ)
best regards,
YVONNE
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Dear Mimie,
I know you are a lovely person. I feel this regarding every one of you. I know you have suffered in your life and I am so sorry for what you had to endure. On the other hand, I’m sure that this made you stronger and because of this your instincts are much more developed that those of other people; you are wiser, because you most certainly had to learn from painful experiences. Your daughter has the privilege to learn important lessons about life and love and compassion, things that many other children do not know, because many “carefree” parents do not realize the importance of such a kind of communication with the little ones.
What I’m trying to underline is that all of us are humans. We all have weaknesses and we all commit sins every day. If there is such thing as “dark forces” they will most certainly use our weaknesses in order to control us. Among the most dangerous ones are: offence, pride, anger. They are dangerous IMO because they seam not so bad on a first view, but they can bring with them the loss of many divine gifts. The most divine gift is the unconditioned love and that means loving each other when we are not so lovable. It is easy for us to love nice people, kind people, talented people, people that use to think as we do and like the same things as we do. The true unconditioned love is proven when we fight with our instincts and we feel the love for our brothers and sisters in those moments when they are not so nice and convenient for us to love. Think about this: If I have a good time with my friends walking on a forest road, and suddenly I trip and get a fall, do you think is ok for someone to tell me: “Oh, how clumsy you are, how could you fall?” or maybe it would be for the best if that someone would help me to stand up again and would continue the walk holding my hand?
This is the idea: if we are all here for MJ that means we have a grate thing to connect us. That means that we all have that little something in our hearts that makes us better persons and we are not so many… Let’s stay that way holding our hands and see where the road is taking us. Let’s not let our weaknesses controlling us, but let’s control our strengths in order to make a difference. Before addressing any punishing word to any of us, let’s try to stop a little, think about the consequence and the use of our words, think about that LOVE, chase away any trace of pride, offence and anger, and only then addressing those words. Would this be too much? Would this harm anybody? I think quite contrary. Not only the addressee will feel better (and getting back better thoughts), but we will feel more powerful and satisfied in the end. And last, but not least, this, my friends would be a grate victory because the LOVE would defeat the “dark forces”. Positive energy against negative energy. We are what we spread.
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And now, some therapy for the soul…for those who might enjoy such a lecture…
WE HAVE TIME/ I HAVE LARNED (By Octavian Paller)
We have time for everything:
to sleep, to run from one place to another,
to regret having mistaken and to mistake again,
to judge the others and to forgive ourselves,
we have time for reading and writing,
for making corrections to our texts, to regret ever having written,
we have time to make projects and never respect them,
we have time to make illusions and gamble through their ashes later on.
We have time for ambitions and illnesses,
to blame it all on ambitions and details,
we have time to watch the clouds, advertisements or some ordinary accident,
we have time to chase our wonders away and to postpone the answers,
we have time to break a dream to pieces and then to reinvent it,
we have time to make friends, lose them,
we have time to learn our lessons and then forget them quickly afterwards,
we have time to be given gifts and not understand them.
We have time for them all.
But there is no time for just a drop of tenderness.
When we are about to get to that too – we die.
I have learned some things during my lifetime,
experiences that I am now sharing with you!!
I have learned that you cannot make somebody love you;
All you can do is be the beloved one.
Everything else… depends on the others.
I have learned that, no matter how much I might care,
Others might not care at all.
I have learned that it could take years to earn somebody’s confidence
And only a few seconds to lose it.,
I have learned that it is not WHAT you have in life,
But WHO is there for you to have.
I have learned that charms could be of use for only about 15 minutes,
Afterwards, nevertheless, you had better know something.
I have learned that you should never compare yourself
to what others can do better than you,
but to what you can do yourself;
I have learned that what happens to the others is not as import as
what I can do to help;
I have learned that in whatever you might cut things,
They will always turn out to have two sides;
I have learned that when you have to depart from your dearest ones,
you should do it with the warmest words;
It could be the last time you see them.
I have learned that you could carry on for a long time
After stating you cannot take it any longer;
I have learned that heroes are those who do what is right,
when they ought to, regardless of the consequences;
I have learned that there are people who love you
But do not know how to show it;
I have learned that when I am upset I have
the RIGHT to be so
But I do not have the right to be mean as well;
I have learned that true friendship continues
to exist even when great distances are involved
And that goes for true love too.
I have learned that, if somebody does not love you
the way you might want to be loved,
It does not mean they do not love you with all their heart.
I have learned that no matter how good a friend might be to you,
They will inevitably hurt you from time to time
And you will have to forgive;
I have learned that it is not always enough to be
forgiven by others,
Sometimes you must learn how to forgive
your own self;
I have learned that, regardless of how much you might suffer,
The world will never cease running because of your pain.
I have learned that the past and circumstances could alter your personality,
But it is certainly YOU to be held responsible for what you become;
I have learned that, if two people argue, it does not mean they do not love each other,
As well as their not arguing would not prove that they subsequently are in love.
I have learned that you should sometimes put the person in the first place
And not their deeds;
I have learned that two persons could be watching the very same thing
And perceive two totally different meanings;
I have learned that, in spite of any consequences,
Those who are fair and honest with themselves reach higher peaks in life;
I have learned that one’s life could be changed in only a few hours’ time
By people who might have never even known them;
I have learned that when you believe there is nothing more you could offer,
You will always find the strength to help a friend who in need.
I have learned that writing, Just like speaking,
Could soothe your inner pain.
I have learned that the ones you hold dearest
Are taken away from you far too soon…
I have learned that it is far too difficult to realize
Where to draw the borders between kindness, not hurting the others
and firmly sustaining your ideas.
I have learned to love In order to be loved in my turn.
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TO: RALU
again,my friend, u reminded me what is important, LOVE
i apologise fo my behaviour and words written to Diana Jean, but this person was using cover as MJ's fan, this person was saying words against LOVE:"What in the world does believing Souza and Mo have to do with beliving in LOVE?"
i answered: in another post u will propably ask for LOVE definition or proof it really exists because u didn't find it anywhere......
i re-acted to stand on MJ's side
but u r right, it is a waste of time-there will be always some "dark" forces who would like to focus on them...not on LOVE
so ...i read your messages and thank u again for bringing into "LIGHT"
best regards,
Yvonne
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merci RALU pour tes paroles douces et sage qui me reconfortent en ce moment meme si ça ne peut panser mes blessures, cela m ouvre une petite lumiere dans ce long tunnel, je ne peux malheureusement oublier mon passe mais j essaie de pardonner et voir les choses autrement mais merci pour tes paroles tellement douce a mes oreilles et a mon coeur i love you que dieu te benisse et te protege
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Michelle WilkieNZ and ralu, read what you write is therapy for the soul, as I said before is always good to read something so beautiful. ;)
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mon ide est surement grotesque et impossible , j ai regarde this is it , michael nous fait comprendre qu il n y a plus que 4 ans pour sauver la planete, moi je suis persuadee que la cle du changement de situation est l Afrique , pour moi si on arrive a sauver l afrique , le pouvoir changera de direction, quand j ai regarde this is it , j ai eu une idee qui peut paraitre absurde mais si ca marchait, on pourrait combattre a armes egales
si on trouvait un moyen de monopoliser l attention des gens a ne plus payer d impots ou de taxes ou de credits vu que c est en majorite l argent de l etat je parle a echelle mondiale on inverserait l ordre des choses, et cet argent on le servirait a l afrique, je sais c est impossible a faire, je suis malade ma fille m a laisse sa petite maladie en partant et m a dit quand on n aime on partage tout !!!! lol d accord ils pourraient faire une saisie sur salaire ou une saisie bancaire mais si c est a une echelle planetaire, les gouvernements ne pourrainet rien faire et le pouvoir et l economie seraient alors inverses , vu que monsieur obama ne se gene pas pour augmenter les prets de maison et mets les gens dehors et qu ici en france on est surtaxe, oui bon je sais c est impossible a faire et je suis surement tomber sur la tete ou mon nez a aussi boucher mes neuronnes mais ne serait ce pas une idee a creuser, je sens que je dis n importe quoi comment mobiliser un peuple qui a peur c est peine perdue bisous que dieu vous protege et vous benisse de normandie france
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j aimerais que l on oublie pas ca, personne en parle et mes yeux sont remplis de larmes non par mon passe , mais de ce que l etre humain est capable de faire , tant de souffrance pour tchernobyl qu il me semble que la population a oublie ses enfants handicapes a vie et qui souffrent ca pour cela oui j eprouve de la colere et meme plus quand ca va cesser cette tuerie d enfants et de gens innocent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_FI2alBpBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_FI2alBpBY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUQQ10t7Cek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUQQ10t7Cek)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYnRs5jKAMQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYnRs5jKAMQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX548SE0jEQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX548SE0jEQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0oALxwWAAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0oALxwWAAg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epK2v_ZuIts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epK2v_ZuIts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ei3SA5KXmA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ei3SA5KXmA)
ecoutez les hurler de douleur !!!! vous comprendrez aussi pourquoi il faut faire quelquechose pour que cette chose horrible n existe plus !!! tout ca pour le nucleaire et me dites pas que c est naturel cette souffrance qui me souleve le coeur et m empeche de dormir et de sourire de nouveau voila vous savez pourquoi la plupart on oubliait moi non
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;) Dear Friend Yvonne,
Thanks so much for Your reply, I only have dial-up at the moment , is it possible to view these or do I need broadband? So may I ask, are these videos to do with clues from past times ?? so sorry to bother You , as I really want to view them, I'll try my connection but if it doesn't work , I 'll try and seek out someone who may be able to help. Thanks so much once again for your kindness, it is lovely when someone like Yourself acknowledges posts. I feel very privelged, !! thanks again and much love and hugs!!
take care and all my love
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)
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mon ide est surement grotesque et impossible , j ai regarde this is it , michael nous fait comprendre qu il n y a plus que 4 ans pour sauver la planete, moi je suis persuadee que la cle du changement de situation est l Afrique , pour moi si on arrive a sauver l afrique , le pouvoir changera de direction, quand j ai regarde this is it , j ai eu une idee qui peut paraitre absurde mais si ca marchait, on pourrait combattre a armes egales
si on trouvait un moyen de monopoliser l attention des gens a ne plus payer d impots ou de taxes ou de credits vu que c est en majorite l argent de l etat je parle a echelle mondiale on inverserait l ordre des choses, et cet argent on le servirait a l afrique, je sais c est impossible a faire, je suis malade ma fille m a laisse sa petite maladie en partant et m a dit quand on n aime on partage tout !!!! lol d accord ils pourraient faire une saisie sur salaire ou une saisie bancaire mais si c est a une echelle planetaire, les gouvernements ne pourrainet rien faire et le pouvoir et l economie seraient alors inverses , vu que monsieur obama ne se gene pas pour augmenter les prets de maison et mets les gens dehors et qu ici en france on est surtaxe, oui bon je sais c est impossible a faire et je suis surement tomber sur la tete ou mon nez a aussi boucher mes neuronnes mais ne serait ce pas une idee a creuser, je sens que je dis n importe quoi comment mobiliser un peuple qui a peur c est peine perdue bisous que dieu vous protege et vous benisse de normandie france
Try to read this link carefully and give it enough time to answer to all your questions. I've mentioned it several times before and I don't want to be insistent about this, but it sems to me that it could be the thing you are looking for:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/ (http://www.thevenusproject.com/)
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Michelle WilkieNZ and ralu, read what you write is therapy for the soul, as I said before is always good to read something so beautiful. ;)
If one single person can find a little peace or inspiration in those thoughts I've written, than it is enough reward for me to go on. Much love to you.
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TO: RALU
again,my friend, u reminded me what is important, LOVE
i apologise fo my behaviour and words written to Diana Jean, but this person was using cover as MJ's fan, this person was saying words against LOVE:"What in the world does believing Souza and Mo have to do with beliving in LOVE?"
i answered: in another post u will propably ask for LOVE definition or proof it really exists because u didn't find it anywhere......
i re-acted to stand on MJ's side
but u r right, it is a waste of time-there will be always some "dark" forces who would like to focus on them...not on LOVE
so ...i read your messages and thank u again for bringing into "LIGHT"
best regards,
Yvonne
Yvonne, thank you for your appreciation, dear. As for Diana Jean, I'm sure she didn't just use a cover...you see, what we need to acknowledge is that saying words doesn't necessary mean feeling them, or meanning them. When somebody is (apparently) saying words "against" love, it is in our power to provoque him/ her to speak "pro" love next time. And this would never be a waste of time ;)
I'm glad if I helped. BIG hugs.
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;) Much peace and LO.O.V.E to You all!! I have just finished watching Michael's 'Bucharest Concert' On DVD and I felt so moved I just got emotional and again and again his Mesage has always been the same and with so so much passion and honesty and integrity, L.OV.E and the world make it a better place for one and all the flowers the trees the seas and all whom endure life within it, no matter how important or small we are- we are all equal the birds and the bees and us and everyone here in our Universe!! But the passion you feel from his heart and soul, is so so very strong, that wherever he is now he is still sending out that very same message and we are very blessed that we have all realised that and are doing our very best to help him spread it!! much love peace light and happiness to You all!!
L.O.V.E always and forever.
'A ;) circle of L.OV.E linking us and one and all right round the world!! we can help him achieve it we can do it!! Love YOU MJ wherever YOU are -take care!!
Michelle
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;) Dear Friend Yvonne,
Thanks so much for Your reply, I only have dial-up at the moment , is it possible to view these or do I need broadband? So may I ask, are these videos to do with clues from past times ?? so sorry to bother You , as I really want to view them, I'll try my connection but if it doesn't work , I 'll try and seek out someone who may be able to help. Thanks so much once again for your kindness, it is lovely when someone like Yourself acknowledges posts. I feel very privelged, !! thanks again and much love and hugs!!
take care and all my love
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)
MIchelle,
on YouTube.com try to find ALONSOHELENA user, and then try to find her video called:Michael Jackson - Alive? Part 6 - Is This It?,
as i said before u may start from 6th or 7th part, watch all 13, u will have your answer....in one of them...
best regards,
Yvonne
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;) Much peace and LO.O.V.E to You all!! I have just finished watching Michael's 'Bucharest Concert' On DVD and I felt so moved I just got emotional and again and again his Mesage has always been the same and with so so much passion and honesty and integrity, L.OV.E and the world make it a better place for one and all the flowers the trees the seas and all whom endure life within it, no matter how important or small we are- we are all equal the birds and the bees and us and everyone here in our Universe!! But the passion you feel from his heart and soul, is so so very strong, that wherever he is now he is still sending out that very same message and we are very blessed that we have all realised that and are doing our very best to help him spread it!! much love peace light and happiness to You all!!
L.O.V.E always and forever.
'A ;) circle of L.OV.E linking us and one and all right round the world!! we can help him achieve it we can do it!! Love YOU MJ wherever YOU are -take care!!
Michelle
Michelle, I don't have enough words to tell you how I felt actually being there during that concert. If you can feel all those vibes just watching it on DVD, just try to imagine what I felt experiancing it live. Last time I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who's 5 years old. When he asked me "Why did Michael fell down?" during the Man in the mirror, I started to explain him that this was because he just gave his all in that concert, like he always do. "How come, mommy?". And I told him that he was really serious about the meanning of his songs, that he puts his entire heart on the line while performing and he makes big efforts because he loves his fans and he wants us to feel the love, that he wants us to care for eachother and he tries to transmit this message in every single concert when he performs. Suddenly I realised that tears are allover my cheeks and my son is stareing at me with his jaw droped. Then he hugs me and tels me: now I understand why those people were crying on the concert. They were crying just like you, tears of happyness. :)
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Michelle, I don't have enough words to tell you how I felt actually being there during that concert. If you can feel all those vibes just watching it on DVD, just try to imagine what I felt experiancing it live. Last time I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who's 5 years old. When he asked me "Why did Michael fell down?" during the Man in the mirror, I started to explain him that this was because he just gave his all in that concert, like he always do. "How come, mommy?". And I told him that he was really serious about the meanning of his songs, that he puts his entire heart on the line while performing and he makes big efforts because he loves his fans and he wants us to feel the love, that he wants us to care for eachother and he tries to transmit this message in every single concert when he performs. Suddenly I realised that tears are allover my cheeks and my son is stareing at me with his jaw droped. Then he hugs me and tels me: now I understand why those people were crying on the concert. They were crying just like you, tears of happyness.
For God's sake , you made me cry, too.
But thanks :)
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Godhaschosenmj » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:36 am
"I'll bet you all the money in the world that most of you have never even heard of the illuminati before June 25. Ill bet that most of you weren't even interested in it until Souza&Mo posted their theory. Did you investigate it yourself, or did you just take their word for it?"
Well, I for one knew about the Illuminate, NWO, Freemasons, Jesuits, and other secret societies long before ANY hoax site was ever started!
I agree with you. I have heard about them for some time now.
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je ne comprends pas tout le venus project les videos sont anglaises et non sous titres en frabncais alors je ne comprends , mais peut etre que l idee n est pas si impossible que ca si l economie est inverse et que l amour fait place a la haine tout est possible n est ce pas , mes reves ne sont pas vains, j aimerais tellement que ca se realise enfin, tchernobyl ou la famine en afriique ............ ne devrait plus se produire bisous que dieu vous benissent
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Michelle, I don't have enough words to tell you how I felt actually being there during that concert. If you can feel all those vibes just watching it on DVD, just try to imagine what I felt experiancing it live. Last time I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who's 5 years old. When he asked me "Why did Michael fell down?" during the Man in the mirror, I started to explain him that this was because he just gave his all in that concert, like he always do. "How come, mommy?". And I told him that he was really serious about the meanning of his songs, that he puts his entire heart on the line while performing and he makes big efforts because he loves his fans and he wants us to feel the love, that he wants us to care for eachother and he tries to transmit this message in every single concert when he performs. Suddenly I realised that tears are allover my cheeks and my son is stareing at me with his jaw droped. Then he hugs me and tels me: now I understand why those people were crying on the concert. They were crying just like you, tears of happyness.
For God's sake , you made me cry, too.
But thanks :)
Oh KINGdom, you're so sweet...Sorry, wellcome, IDK what to say about this...if there were "tears of happyness" I think it's ok, isn't it? :)
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Hi Everyone!! well thanks so much Yvonne for You beautiful reply and for all the info !! thanks so much I can't wait to watch these!! much love light and peace to You!!
love Michelle
Dear Ralu and all others
thanks so much for Your reply and made me all emotional again , wow what an amazing experience it must have been so You were at Bucharest , wow the emotinal intensity You all must have felt must have been absolutely amazing and You are so right what You explained to Your son, and how intuitive and bright is he, like MJ says Children hold all the answers and lead the way and they are so perceptive!! But for Yuor son to give that absolutely amazing explanation to You and come to that conclusion, wow is all I can say I am ' Speechless' if peopel as Young as Your son can get that message then there is no reason others don't get it, I guess it comes down to those of us who choose to listen and those who choose to turn a blind eye, as with Mj even the blind can see it and the deaf can hear it, with him it's all explained to everyone no matter what Your culture of language, as with MJ there is no cultural or age barrier as like You said his all is in every song and if You can't understand in one way his body and range of emotion shown in his body and face and spirit etc explains it to us all no matter what, it does come down to choice and I guess that is the challenge!! Well thank You so much for sharing Your beautiful and heartfelt experience with me, I watched it agin to night to show my MUm the parts she missed and the phone rang for her, so I watched those end song from Work Day and Night is it on wards till the end, in basically mute a tiny bit of volume , but I still got it and in fact it intensified my focus on his message and degree of emotion and I cried all over again, and especially when he woalks out in Helal the World with the children and holding the wee one's hand and then at end he embraces the Baby and my goodness that is when the tears flowed so intensely , for his beautiful embrace and how he treated acknowledging it and all those children , just resonated so deeply and truly showed the depth and integrity and humanity MJ has, and then I come here and read Your bautiful story and I feel it all again and I feel overcome with emotion and it brings tears to my eyes again. Thank You so very much from the bottom of my heart !!! Much love to You and Your Son and family!! Wonder what he would think how he affected some lady on the other side of the world with his degree of understanding and knowing, he is amazing and obviously with the beautiful person You are it is no wonder with You as a beautifully lead example he will no doubt grow to be one amazing human being!! I am absolutley humbled by Your sharing !! thank You!! and to everyone thank You and much love light and peace to You all and strength and faith and to You MJ where ever You are to You and YOur Children and FAmily and friends!! oh wow I am really feeling the love of You people here and if I can I can only imagine that MJ must where ever he is and anyone else . Wow Wow thank You You beautfiul beautiful human beings is all I can say!!
and sorry one last thing, I truly have the greatest admiraton to You all out there that English is not YOur first language and Yet You all communicate so beautifully Your messages YOu all blow my mind!! I truly honestly take my hat off to You all!! You are truly amazing!!
all my love to You all and Ralu and Your precious Son and Yvonne and everyone esle
Much love and hugs
keep the faith stay strong!! and spread the love !! It is truly so very powerful and everyone must be doing an amazing job as truly now on this blog I so truly am feeling it and it is so very strong!!
Much love peace and Happiness to You all
take care all my love and hugs
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)
New Zealand
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You're so lovely Michelle, just keep going that way!
Yes, the children understand the best all these things. Because they have pure souls and they have no problem at all believing this message and expressing what they feel...as Michael so beautifully underlined it in his "Children". Unfortunatelly while we are growing up the society forces us to alterate. We are resisting to the need of playing, of experiencing childish things, of shouting when we feel happy, of saying to someone that we love him/ her, of crying, of hugging, of addmiting that a certain thing makes us emotional...and if we think about all these we can't actually find a resonable answer to the question "Why?" Why are we ashamed of all these? Because of what the "others" may think about us. They could think we are stupid, they could think we are whick, immature, pathetic. And we pay for this fake appearance with our own happyness. We try to find happyness in all the material things that are surrownding us and when we cannot find it there, we become mean, angry, even hateful, we try to put the blame on somebody or on something...And meantime the answer lays in us. When we allow ourselves to see and to undestand all these truths, we begin to spread the love and the joy around us and without even notticing, we find that happynes, that light which is contagious. Children are smart and creative and their logic is unbelieveble. We are constrained to give away those gifts while we are becomming "serious", insensitive adults...that's why is so important to encourage our children to do and to say and to act exactely how they feel as much as possible. And to fight with our whicknesses in order to do the same. When I tried to explain to my kid that there are so many children dieing of hunger and they have nothing, no toy to play with, now home, no clothes, he looked at me with sadness, then his face lighted up and he said to me "That's ok mommy, we are going to feed them, aren't we?" So can you see what Michael saw? Do you understand what a better place this world would be if we wouldn't loose all those gifts that God offers us once he sends us on this Earth as children? Exactely this kind of thoughts grown men are afraid of expressing and of transforming in facts (despite the fact that they have those thoughts), because the "others" could think they are crazy and immature....well, I'm not afraid anymore. Much love to you all.
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http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/15318 (http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/15318)
ah bon il parait que c est la maison de michael , ceux qui pensent que ca lui appartient ne connaissent pas Michael cette maison est froide et impersonnelle et ne ressemble pas du tout a Michael , quand aux articles que je lis non pas que je lis les tabbloids mais je fais des recherches et qu on dise que michael faisait pipi dans des bouteilles ou des tasses, meme si c est pour se moquer de quelqu un je ne trouve pas ca rigolo du tout, docteur Klein vous abusez serieusement, meme pour detendre l atmosphere qui va trop loin je pense car les fans parfois exentriquess pourraient mettre une VIE en peril, j espere que ca va pas aller trop loin, on a beau prendre toutes les precautions parfois on se laisse surprendre, meme si parfois les choses sont amusantes bisous de normandie france
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Deeearest Ralu
I am so very grateful to You and Your same beliefs I wholoe heartedly agree a million percent!! The Children are the way forward and all us to be like Michael and hold onto our childhood!! I think he is the ultimate example and if we can all be jsut a bit of what he is we will bring healing and love to the world and it will conquer all!! Much love to You and if me from my end of the world in New Zealand and You (sorry not sure where YOu are from??) and everyone in between - live like children and L.O.V.E L.O.V.E L.O.V.E!! AND SPREAD THE WORD WE ARE SO VERY DEFINITELY ON TRACK TO HELP MICHAEL SPREAD HIS MESSAGE!! as positiveness has a riple effect You know like when someone laughs and gets the ggiggles and then it catches on and everyone starts having a laugh attack!! well they say 'Laughter is the best medicine' :D :lol: and pure laughter comes from the heart from a place of truth and love !!
well my love to You Your sone and everyone here and beyond!! Ralu You speak words so dear to my heart!! love you love you love you!!
and You all here and everywhere!!
much love hugs and smiles filled with laughter !!
all my love from the bottom of my hfeart!!
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)
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I love you more Michelle :D
And I'm giving you a hint: if you check the box of the right of every comment you can see the user's name and (if s/he filled that part) the location...Can you see that? I'm from Romania, Bucharest (Eastern Europe lol) ;)
Love is in the air... :lol:
BIG hugs!
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;) :lol: Oh my gosh :lol: is so right I never ever noticed that!! well well wonders never cease to amaze if I were alittle more alert, I amjsut so intent on my message that I missed the obvious. Thanks for that hint :lol: :P oh well I had better get to bed as it's3.22am here Thursday Morning are You 12 hours behind there? well 'I Love You More' too Ralu!! take care and much love to all here!!
all my love and hugs
Michelle
xoxoxo ;)
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Must read the rest later.
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it's so good to read this again...because it makes perfect sense
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Hi TS.
Thank U So Much for all the very resourceful informations. I do need time to catch up in reading the TIAI articules. As much as I wanna to know the very truth as regards of MJ being alive, I will do my very best to do the reading and keep an open mind. Wish Ya all the Best! LOVE. Rabbitmj:-)