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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: mjj_fan on January 22, 2010, 06:58:50 PM

Title: tinted glasses
Post by: mjj_fan on January 22, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
i have one last question , the ambulance glasses are tinted  even the person inside  cannot look outside , how  is it possible to take a sharp short i know  that photographer said we use  special  lights and cameras  but if its
true ,can sme one please confirm this to me
Title: Re: tinted glassed
Post by: i_need YoU on January 22, 2010, 07:27:32 PM
wasnt the camera they used just a ordinary camera?...i need to find an interview i watched last night where he had soo many slip ups and the whole interview was just WEIRD about how he got the picture and everything...if it was just a normal camera i am def gonna see if i can get a clear picture inside dark tinting
ALSO in the interview he mad it seem like he had no idea who was in the ambulance...he was just like oh lets get a quick shot JUST IN CASE it makes a good story...BS!!!! First how does he not know who is in the ambulance if he is sitting there taking pictures of him?!?!?!?!...he even stated that even after he took the pictures it was unclear to them who was in the ambulance!!!! i find this very strange...ima go see if i can find the interview..
Title: Re: tinted glassed
Post by: i_need YoU on January 22, 2010, 07:30:31 PM
[youtube:2aihxa7a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbroD0tFNq0[/youtube:2aihxa7a]
found it  :D
Title: Re: tinted glassed
Post by: mjj_fan on January 22, 2010, 07:31:14 PM
you can find it on youtube , please checj that out how they work with tinted glasses. he said about special camera or light effects i remember that one . thanks
Title: Re: tinted glassed
Post by: mjj_fan on January 22, 2010, 07:32:55 PM
great !! i m curious to know about your findings
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: i_need YoU on January 22, 2010, 07:36:48 PM
ok im confused...where the heck is the red car!!!!????? :o  :o  :o  i see an ambulance...and a bunch of people around the ambulance...but no car...so in the reflection shouldnt it be people instead of the red car??? gosh everytime i watch this video i find something new
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: SunShine on January 22, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
I have very dark tinting on my car windows, and it is the same as a ambulance...I have tried all sorts od angles to get pic's of the inside of my car, and I do have a Nikon D50 camera...and I can not get a clear shot at all, and I am a photographer.
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: i_need YoU on January 22, 2010, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: "SunShine"
I have very dark tinting on my car windows, and it is the same as a ambulance...I have tried all sorts od angles to get pic's of the inside of my car, and I do have a Nikon D50 camera...and I can not get a clear shot at all, and I am a photographer.
so it was just an ordinary camera??

Also you say they used special lighting huh...where on earth would they have time to set all that crap up! Its not like the ambulance was gonig to set there and wait for them to make there special set up to get a clear picture!!
Unless of course MJ puposefully posed for the camera and waited for them to set up there special lighting effects...BS this guy is stupid if this were really the truth i dont see where they can find the time and even be ready to approach this...not like they are caring the "special lighting" around with them along with there ordianry camera...puhleease i not following this guy...he faked this pic so he can get some mula
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: i_need YoU on January 22, 2010, 08:03:07 PM
they need to make their lies more logical...i feel offended thinking that we were actually going to believe that it was how they got the photo...real or not they lied on how they got the picture
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: SunShine on January 22, 2010, 08:11:56 PM
I plan on going to hospital this weekend , keep in mind it is one in Canada,to see if they will let me take pictures of a ambulance, I sure they will as I can say it a picture for sons school project. With taking pic's of my car with dark tinted windows I can see a bit inside, but not clear enough, and that's cz light comes threw windshield. Now on a ambulance you do not get a lot of light coming threw at all, as it does now have a big opening from front to back, I will post the pic's I get.
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: i_need YoU on January 22, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: "SunShine"
I plan on going to hospital this weekend , keep in mind it is one in Canada,to see if they will let me take pictures of a ambulance, I sure they will as I can say it a picture for sons school project. With taking pic's of my car with dark tinted windows I can see a bit inside, but not clear enough, and that's cz light comes threw windshield. Now on a ambulance you do not get a lot of light coming threw at all, as it does now have a big opening from front to back, I will post the pic's I get.
yay i cant wait to see your results!! u should use the camera they stated they used and also see if you can do ANYTHING to make it clear...just in case...good luck hopefully they allow it :)
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: L.O.V.Eispower on January 23, 2010, 02:56:55 AM
thnx 4 da vid i havent seen it before! wait he says they took a couple of pix lyk through the back and through the windows as well so how come we only have one???  :?
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: LovelyLurker on January 23, 2010, 03:14:09 AM
HAhahah to sunshine... you go girl !!! From a fellow canadian. We are such nice people I am sure they will let you AND believe you when you say it is for your son;s school project. Why did I not think of that ?

Make sure the windows are dark tho as I have never really studied Canadian ambulances but sure the windows must be tinted.   Good Luck !!!
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: StayTuned on January 23, 2010, 03:20:24 AM
Heres my question about the photo!
Tint is like a mirror, if there was someone standing outside of the window taking a picture, why weren't there a reflection of the camera man in the photo, we should of seen and arm and the camera itself? at least a silohuette?, I have taken pictures of people in tinted cars and all i got was a picture of my own reflection!
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 23, 2010, 03:35:28 AM
IT's not possible.. It's a reason why the ambulance have tints.. Because NO ONE should be able to take pictures of the "victim" inside the car..

And when you first take the picture, and get through.. What is the chance that you're taking a picture of Michael Jackson, a clear face.. That looks like Michael in 1980.. Or a random person that looks like Michael in the 80's..

Tints are impossible to take pictures through, as StayTuned said, it's like taking a picture in the mirror.
-Can you see the wall behinde the mirror?.. No.. Can you see trough a tint? No.. Should be imposibble, or maximal luck!
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: Venus on January 23, 2010, 03:36:17 AM
Quote from: "StayTuned"
Heres my question about the photo!
Tint is like a mirror, if there was someone standing outside of the window taking a picture, why weren't there a reflection of the camera man in the photo, we should of seen and arm and the camera itself? at least a silohuette?, I have taken pictures of people in tinted cars and all i got was a picture of my own reflection!

Yes, I have the same experience  :?
I think you should ask professional photographer to repeat the scene.
Sorry for my english...
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: ni-co-le on January 23, 2010, 04:45:44 AM
hi i was walking my dogs the other day and there was an ambulance parked on the street and i walked by and i wanted to look inside ,but no the glasses were to dark ,its impossible to see whos in there ,so a picture cant be taken to ...i am sure...paparazzi or not
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: lisap27 on January 23, 2010, 04:54:00 AM
ok i don't wanna sound negative her but i'm sure its possible to get a good picture.. they do it all the time over here in the uk with prison vans.. when a criminal gets sentanced for example or on their way to court or out of it the photographers surround the van why its moving literally with just there cameras at the windows cos there high up.. then you see a picture in the paper.. gonna try and find an example anyway..
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: Venus on January 23, 2010, 05:05:19 AM
Ok. I think we don't have to consider picture as edivence.
Yes, the picture is fake. But if it is fake it doesn't prove the death is a hoax.
As we know paps would do anything to get the money. Probably it was really impossible to make a clear shot and they sold fake picture. But what does it mean?
It means nothing! Not that he's dead, not that he's alive.
We sould concentrate on more important clues.
We talk about this picture for 7 months. Enough already.
What if Í or anybody else will tell you that this picture is 100% fake? What will it change?
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: lisap27 on January 23, 2010, 05:07:43 AM
just found this bit of info on taking photo's on through glass.. was the camera directly on the window of the ambulance :?:  anyway take a read..  

When using a flash, do not take it straight on or you will get a photo of the flash. If you must take it straight on, then put the camera right up to the glass so the flash strikes the glass above the camera lens. Move to an angle so that the light from a flash bounces off the glass at an angle and not right back at you. Also, positioning the camera close to the glass helps avoid reflections.

Glass can be clear, tinted, or even polarized. Clear glass generally presents no problems if you use common sense. Tinted glass (often found on tour buses and some cars) presents the most problems and if you can avoid it, all the better. Some commercial jets use polarized glass, and if you try to use a polarizing filter, the photos may be too dark.

i also think to go over things is good.. just because its been discussed over and over we need to know for sure we covered everything IMO
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: loyalfan on January 23, 2010, 05:47:22 AM
THIS IS A GOOD DISCUSSION.........LETS HOPE A PHOTGRAPHER AMONG US CAN PROVE THIS IS FAKE......XXXXX
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: onikoti on January 23, 2010, 07:25:50 AM
by SunShine » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:57 am

I have very dark tinting on my car windows, and it is the same as a ambulance...I have tried all sorts od angles to get pic's of the inside of my car, and I do have a Nikon D50 camera...and I can not get a clear shot at all, and I am a photographer.

LOL...and that's the main reason I'll hire Ben Evenstad  instead of you  when I'll decide to hoax my own death!..Considering the advantages he's offering  to his clients!..  :D My "last"picture will not only  be clear and visible taken through tinted glasses and  in motion but I ..will also look 20years younger and kind of "different" in it,the way I want to be remembered,you know?  ;)
The man performs miracles!!! Why settle for anything less?Sorry..You just lost a client.! 8-)

Seriously now...The whole case reminds me the lost treasure hunting and I LOVE IT!
Lies,clues,pictures,silence...It's getting better every single day..
(I hope I haven't offended you,didn't mean to)But just the thought of you trying to take
a similar picture (in quality) and not making it made me laugh.And REASSURED me that
WE HAVE A HOAX HERE...THANKS. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 23, 2010, 10:14:23 AM
Quote from: "onikoti"
by SunShine » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:57 am

I have very dark tinting on my car windows, and it is the same as a ambulance...I have tried all sorts od angles to get pic's of the inside of my car, and I do have a Nikon D50 camera...and I can not get a clear shot at all, and I am a photographer.

LOL...and that's the main reason I'll hire Ben Evenstad  instead of you  when I'll decide to hoax my own death!..Considering the advantages he's offering  to his clients!..  :D My "last"picture will not only  be clear and visible taken through tinted glasses and  in motion but I ..will also look 20years younger and kind of "different" in it,the way I want to be remembered,you know?  ;)
The man performs miracles!!! Why settle for anything less?Sorry..You just lost a client.! 8-)

Seriously now...The whole case reminds me the lost treasure hunting and I LOVE IT!
Lies,clues,pictures,silence...It's getting better every single day..
(I hope I haven't offended you,didn't mean to)But just the thought of you trying to take
a similar picture (in quality) and not making it made me laugh.And REASSURED me that
WE HAVE A HOAX HERE...THANKS. :mrgreen:

Haha.. True
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: mjj_fan on January 23, 2010, 12:50:37 PM
@ venus we are discussing micheal for last 7 months too  are u 100 percent sure he is alive?  i know we discuss this  pic alot  the piont is  bhow they  got fine details of  ambulance inside through tinted glasses  if
u dont want to discuss  you are welcome to   leave this post ,there  is no need to  be rude  , GOD BLESS YOU
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on January 23, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
i have one last question , the ambulance glasses are tinted  even the person inside  cannot look outside , how  is it possible to take a sharp short i know  that photographer said we use  special  lights and cameras  but if its
true ,can sme one please confirm this to me
Pianogames did a hoax video on this where he showed the video where you see the guy that supp took the picture, and in his video he says the guy looks like MJ lol hs body and shape and slimness, so we cant know for sure who took the picture i mean, just cause this guy said he did doesnt mean he actually did ;)
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: mjj_fan on January 23, 2010, 01:04:57 PM
ok thanks jackson girl i will watch that one
Title: Re: tinted glasses
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on January 23, 2010, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
ok thanks jackson girl i will watch that one
No problem hun :) its all for love.
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