Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Pictures => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on January 23, 2010, 02:56:24 PM
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
he pretty much looks the same :d cute as ever :)
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Incredibly, this man, I'm speechless!(http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Liebe/smilie_love_027.gif) (http://www.smilies.4-user.de)
That's rare for me :lol:
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I cant see any difference... and these pictures are supposed to be about 15 years apart. :shock:
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WOW... that just goes to show that he has not had the massive amount of facial surgeries that the media would like us to believe!
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WOW... that just goes to show that he has not had the massive amount of facial surgeries that the media would like us to believe!
he hasn't lol the media is full of garbage the only things hes had done was the cleft chin and his noce other than that his eyes, cheeks, lips, and eyebrows are the same, the media is stupid :D
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His eyes! Michael does not look happy out ..... :cry:
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eyebrows!!
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Didnt Klein say he was rebuilding MJs nose?? Well the nose looks exactly the same to me...
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Didnt Klein say he was rebuilding MJs nose?? Well the nose looks exactly the same to me...
he wasnt really rebuilding he was fixing the parts that other surgeons screwed up, the parts thats didnt look to great he was fixing up his nose a bit making it look better :)
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eyebrows!!
the only difference in the eyebrows are the fact that one picture they are thinner, but the shape is the same :)
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But MJ does not look like the ambulance picture ..... I think.
That was the Younger MJ
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The mouth is different, but that's about it.
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His eyes now are so sad... God, I wish he'd finally make his BAM!
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sorry guys but i just have to say!! GOD I WANA KISS THEM LIPS, NECK, FACE, EYEBROWS, NOSE.. EVERYTHING!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mrgreen:
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Come on guys, you've got to be kidding me!! Now take a GOOD look!
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Seriously, no difference? I see a lot of differences. The eyes look weird, the chin is off (cleft is way to big on the first pic) the mouth is different, the nose is different.
IMHO the first one is not Mike, but someone with prostetic make-up (see weird wrinkles in the neck) and the second one is a recent pic of Mike, certainly not from the dangerous era.
Just my 2 cents.
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sorry guys but i just have to say!! GOD I WANA KISS THEM LIPS, NECK, FACE, EYEBROWS, NOSE.. EVERYTHING!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mrgreen:
You read my mind! :lol:
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Seriously, no difference? I see a lot of differences. The eyes look weird, the chin is off (cleft is way to big on the first pic) the mouth is different, the nose is different.
IMHO the first one is not Mike, but someone with prostetic make-up (see weird wrinkles in the neck) and the second one is a recent pic of Mike, certainly not from the dangerous era.
Just my 2 cents.
well i didnt see much if thats a double its a damn good one, the newer pic is really cute thou :)
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sorry guys but i just have to say!! GOD I WANA KISS THEM LIPS, NECK, FACE, EYEBROWS, NOSE.. EVERYTHING!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mrgreen:
lmao agreed :)
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I honestly cant see any difference. The two images are spookily similar to me. :shock:
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
no surely they are both more recent
mikes cheeks and general skin texture was fuller and younger in the 1990's
the skin here seems less plump and supported by facial muscle and thinner
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
no surely they are both more recent
your right one is from this is it, the other was supposedly taken this month :O
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Seriously, no difference? I see a lot of differences. The eyes look weird, the chin is off (cleft is way to big on the first pic) the mouth is different, the nose is different.
IMHO the first one is not Mike, but someone with prostetic make-up (see weird wrinkles in the neck) and the second one is a recent pic of Mike, certainly not from the dangerous era.
Just my 2 cents.
Well if you're right than TII won't seem nearly as exciting when I finally see it (who wants to see fakes..?) However, I agree on the 2nd one! It's just such a.. I don't know, but I feel it's recent, too!
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They both appear to be from around the same time to me. What am I missing? As already stated, the eyes are sad. :( I hate that.
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The first picture I have a feeling is Michael and it's very gorgeous even tho his eyes are sad :( and that kinda gets to me :( .The second one intimidates me sooo much idk why but when I look at it.....it kinda scares :? me but he's very beautiful=)
And like a lot of u have stated it's something about that second picture it's just kinda eeire :? Well that's just my opinion :D
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
no surely they are both more recent
your right one is from this is it, the other was supposedly taken this month :O
:shock: What are you talking about? Are you pullin our leg? Please dont hold back on us!! :lol:
I imagine I've seen that second one before and more than once and it was not only this month either, I dont think so anyway. :?
I agree with a lot of you guys, in the 1st pic Michael's eyes look so so sad and that kill's me. :cry: Personnaly I find that ever since around the time the trial for the molestation charge's the spark in his eyes is gone, it died. It is like Michael died inside. :? So sad.
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Just look at the chin...
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just thinking that the photo was done by a professional celeb photographer. so it must be "pre-death" regardless of the input error(?) as to date.
this photo was posted available for sale - so not so unusal. it does not point to mj being alive
i suppose what mike may do to test the waters is have sent out - dont know how without blowing his cover, photo's of him and his family, personal maybe.
how do you test the waters of the general public on this issue, and unless you force or encourage a debate on it in a formal media situation eg, national radio station, newspapers, tv. if that happens and there is largely position feed back, and after the AEG money grabber contracts have concluded he may be back.
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
no surely they are both more recent
your right one is from this is it, the other was supposedly taken this month :O
:shock: What are you talking about? Are you pullin our leg? Please dont hold back on us!! :lol:
I imagine I've seen that second one before and more than once and it was not only this month either, I dont think so anyway. :?
I agree with a lot of you guys, in the 1st pic Michael's eyes look so so sad and that kill's me. :cry: Personnaly I find that ever since around the time the trial for the molestation charge's the spark in his eyes is gone, it died. It is like Michael died inside. :? So sad.
Yeah I've seen the second picture before too go to http://www.myspace.com/truenewszone (http://www.myspace.com/truenewszone)
scroll down to the picture that says X for Hoax it is the same picture just with effects added to it
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They both appear to be from around the same time to me. What am I missing? As already stated, the eyes are sad. :( I hate that.
i don;t know apparently whoever leaked that picture said it was taken this month which would mean he is alive, so i dont know if its true but it does seem really recent & i have never seen this photo before this month so who knows.
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http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/10/mich ... oto-shoot/ (http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/10/michael-jackson-photo-shoot/)
Here is the structure of Michael's face without make-up. Taken in 2007.
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For all the double believers - the TII dvd has a photo section on it and in MJ's pictures - the only ones are the stained pants. Either in the red shirt or the smooth criminal jacket. I wonder why the rest of the TII pics are missing.
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what does a double believe mean?
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Some believe that orange pants was a double - sorry I was not clear enough.
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Michael looks like the one he was, when he not wear that "bold and fat" wig.
-The only different is the nose tip, and his cheecks.. And his hair.
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Some believe that orange pants was a double - sorry I was not clear enough.
thanks for your explanation.
i have been to the film as most of the world i suppose, i was wondering whether to buy it, but i think i will, did it make you feel sad, i mean it is some months since it was released on the big screens?
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Seriously, no difference? I see a lot of differences. The eyes look weird, the chin is off (cleft is way to big on the first pic) the mouth is different, the nose is different.
IMHO the first one is not Mike, but someone with prostetic make-up (see weird wrinkles in the neck) and the second one is a recent pic of Mike, certainly not from the dangerous era.
Just my 2 cents.
I 100% agree with you Souza.That is not Michael but an impersonator :? or maybe it's just the age (?)
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Seriously, no difference? I see a lot of differences. The eyes look weird, the chin is off (cleft is way to big on the first pic) the mouth is different, the nose is different.
IMHO the first one is not Mike, but someone with prostetic make-up (see weird wrinkles in the neck) and the second one is a recent pic of Mike, certainly not from the dangerous era.
Just my 2 cents.
well i didnt see much if thats a double its a damn good one, the newer pic is really cute thou :)
But arnold Klein said that he did alot of work on mikes face, filling it out see his interview on TMZ
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Seriously, no difference? I see a lot of differences. The eyes look weird, the chin is off (cleft is way to big on the first pic) the mouth is different, the nose is different.
IMHO the first one is not Mike, but someone with prostetic make-up (see weird wrinkles in the neck) and the second one is a recent pic of Mike, certainly not from the dangerous era.
Just my 2 cents.
well i didnt see much if thats a double its a damn good one, the newer pic is really cute thou :)
But arnold Klein said that he did alot of work on mikes face, filling it out see his interview on TMZ
I agree totally with Souza.
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MJ's top lipwas always a little crooked, like in the bottom pic...now in the top pic his top lip has gotten bigger..maybe hed injections....but the alignment is now perfect.
His eyes are sunken in alot more in the 1st pic. The cleft in his chin in diffenet as well.
Also his hairline is different.
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MJ's top lipwas always a little crooked, like in the bottom pic...now in the top pic his top lip has gotten bigger..maybe hed injections....but the alignment is now perfect.
His eyes are sunken in alot more in the 1st pic. The cleft in his chin in diffenet as well.
Also his hairline is different.
Yes but we know M wore wigs and they are not all the same...
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http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/10/michael-jackson-photo-shoot/
Here is the structure of Michael's face without make-up. Taken in 2007.
"he turned up with no make up artist!"
In your face, Karen Faye!
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
no surely they are both more recent
your right one is from this is it, the other was supposedly taken this month :O
:shock: What are you talking about? Are you pullin our leg? Please dont hold back on us!! :lol:
I imagine I've seen that second one before and more than once and it was not only this month either, I dont think so anyway. :?
I agree with a lot of you guys, in the 1st pic Michael's eyes look so so sad and that kill's me. :cry: Personnaly I find that ever since around the time the trial for the molestation charge's the spark in his eyes is gone, it died. It is like Michael died inside. :? So sad.
the only time ive seen the black and white picture was on a myspace page regarding the hoax, other than that i havent seen it , its a new picture to me and personally i think he looks recent in it, i'd say hes about 50 in it but he looks young , he always has, hes never looked his age lol, but i heard it was taken this month, or at least sometime AFTER his death, who knows maybe Michael leaked it himself ;)
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the first pic, in the movie he sings speechless, so was it not him singing speechless then ? confused?
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I keep coming back to this.. it puzzles me. The pic was supposed to be taken in the 90's yet is seems so recent. :shock: To me there is no difference in the look between that photo and the TII photo.
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I keep coming back to this.. it puzzles me. The pic was supposed to be taken in the 90's yet is seems so recent. :shock: To me there is no difference in the look between that photo and the TII photo.
Look again...look at his LIPS. The first pic, they are really full and even...the 2nd pic they are his REAL lips..
To me it almost looks like the 2nd pic they super imposed his head on the body????
@Bleu
True...I forgot about that!! Duh!
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I keep coming back to this.. it puzzles me. The pic was supposed to be taken in the 90's yet is seems so recent. :shock: To me there is no difference in the look between that photo and the TII photo.
The lips are different....and the nose, but only a little bit or is it the angle of the TII picture? IDK
But the lips are different, yes...That's the only thing for me
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I see definite difference in the chin and width of the jaw. Look at the difference in distance from bottom lip to chin, it's much longer in the first pic.
His jaw seems wider in the first pic.
I was always 100% certain that there were no doubles in TII but now.......hmm, I'm not convinced that first pic is our Michael. The second one most definitely is.
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if the 2nd picture was really indeed taken in the 90's and the top picture really was from TII...then that eliminates our complaints about the ambulance picture looking like it was him from 10 years ago...
We obviously dont know how to tell michaels age in his pictures because he always look so young...
And for those who see differences like wrinkles and shape...well age does do that to you :) even though michael didnt want to get old...time was not going to stop for him
I dont think that picture was taken after his death...but i do think it was taken in 2009 maybe that would be his photo for This Is It tour who knows...could be infinite possibilities because nothing got finished for it after his sudden "death"
you got to look at things both ways
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For the people who can see differences between the pics in the original post, in my opinion it's hard to compare those pics because the angle from has been taken is quite different, plus there are 15 years between those Michaels pics, so obviously we will see some differences, if so.
About the second one, it's a 90's pic to me. Look at this pic (1993 Statement regarding Molestation Allegations). I only put the pic in black & white, I didn't touch anything more in it. I can see same nose, mouth, eyebrows, (there's something -beautiful- with his eyelashes that makes the eyes look a bit different in both pics). Yeah, the cheek bone looks more prominent in the pic at the right, probably because the light comes from right to left.
*Edited to clarify.
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slightly off this thread, but why in the film did we not see mike singing an entire song (save one) why is that? we see cut and paste, there was hours and hours of footage but this must be the condensed version the mike only version?
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In my opinion, it's hard to compare those pics because the angle from has been taken is quite different.
About the second one, it's a 90's pic to me. Look at this pic (1993 Statement regarding Molestation Allegations). I only put the pic in black & white, I didn't touch anything more in it. I can see same nose, mouth, eyebrows, (there's something with his eyelashes that makes the eyes look a bit different). Yeah, the cheek bone looks more prominent in the pic at the right, probably because the light comes from right to left.
i like that photo and the lashes
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Gosh, he's so beautiful! :D
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For me, there is still no difference. Different lighting and makeup and angles... but the eyes never lie.
I love him and miss him.
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For me, there is still no difference. Different lighting and makeup and angles... but the eyes never lie.
I love him and miss him.
your right
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@mjj29081958
First I want to say great comparison he looks the same :D And second looking at that pic from 1993 made me think about I first started liking Michael and I saw that same picture 6 years ago(I'm 13 tho ;) ) :lol: But it really does take me back to how much I miss him :? :(
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@mjj29081958
First I want to say great comparison he looks the same :D And second looking at that pic from 1993 made me think about I first started liking Michael and I saw that same picture 6 years ago(I'm 13 tho ;) ) :lol: But it really does take me back to how much I miss him :? :(
Thank you!. And wow! So, does that mean you have been a MJ fan almost half of your life?! Lol! that's sweet. :D
I'm sure he misses his fans too! xoxo
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@mjj29081958
First I want to say great comparison he looks the same :D And second looking at that pic from 1993 made me think about I first started liking Michael and I saw that same picture 6 years ago(I'm 13 tho ;) ) :lol: But it really does take me back to how much I miss him :? :(
Thank you!. And wow! So, does that mean you have been a MJ fan almost half of your life?! Lol! that's sweet. :D
I'm sure he misses his fans too! xoxo
Don't mention it ;) and yes that's exactly what that means lols :P
Thank You :D Your very sweet yourself :P
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Always look at the scar on his bottom lip. You can't change that or the teeth alignment.
He's so yummy.... miss him. :|
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These are not both mike..one thing i always look for is the scar on his cheek, he has had that scar since he was a child and when i see that i KNOW its mike
but other than the no scar, the cleft is all wrong and so are his lips and eyes..the first picture is not mike
look at his cheek on these pictures, you can see the scar
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you guys are all saying he looks exactly the same :( ...that contradicts ur reasons for believing the ambulance photo is fake!! the main reason was because he looked 20 years younger in the pic...but these 2 pictures just told you how its really hard to tell the difference from a photo over 10 years ago!! i think both those pics are MJs which is making me start to think the Ambulance pic is really MJ but now the only thing i can pray about the Ambulance picture is to hope to god he posed for that pic for some crazy idea...idk but the more evidence comes out the more i believe the amblance pic...when MJ was dead :?
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
i losing myself here, both pictures are of mike and both are recent? is that what you are saying?
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They all look very similar to me...I believe they're all MJ, but he's had some little procedures here and there to keep looking young and handsome.
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You all guys, I'm sorry for popping out this thread again, but I think I'm confused:
...but other than the no scar, the cleft is all wrong and so are his lips and eyes..
You said "The cleft is all wrong and so are his lips and eyes"; then, my question to you is "all wrong" comparing the first pic with what other pic?. If you are doing it with the second pic (the one in the OP), maybe you should try with another (2009) pic that we all know certainly its taken date. If you did it with another recent pic, can I kindly bother you by asking for you to show me the pic, please? Thank you.
...the first picture is not mike
The first pic is from the movie, right? So, may I ask you who do you think it's Michael in the movie, then? At the beggining, Michael with orange trousers & sun glasses wasn't Michael, and now Michael without glasses and a very close-up shot is not Michael either?. :?
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One is from TII... the other from the 90's
i losing myself here, both pictures are of mike and both are recent? is that what you are saying?
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Im saying what the apparent dates of the photos are supposed to be.
For the record i believe it was real MJ at the O2 conference and it was all real MJ in TII.
Im unsure about the ambulance picture.
But if the dates are to be believed in these two photos, then MJ really didnt change that much in appearance over 15 years.... and the slight difference in cheft chin and lips is due to the different angles of the two photos.
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...but other than the no scar, the cleft is all wrong and so are his lips and eyes..
You said "The cleft is all wrong and so are his lips and eyes"; then, my question to you is "all wrong" comparing the first pic with what other pic?. If you are doing it with the second pic (the one in the OP), maybe you should try with another (2009) pic that we all know certainly its taken date. If you did it with another recent pic, can I kindly bother you by asking for you to show me the pic, please? Thank you.
the part about "all wrong" was comparing the pictures that was first posted, not the one from the 70s, if you look at the first 2 pictures that the person who started the topic posted in the top photo the cleft is bigger than the cleft on the bottom picture. also the top lip is big on the first picture and his top lip is thin and has always been thin, even if you look at the picture from the 70s his top lip is thin not full. when trying to figure out if its mike or not i always look for the scar on his cheek and look at his lips because no matter how much he ages or whatever he had done to his nose those are not going to change. the scar is harder to see because of photoshop,make up ect but in this case it is visible so i im sure thats him
...the first picture is not mike
The first pic is from the movie, right? So, may I ask you who do you think it's Michael in the movie, then? At the beggining, Michael with orange trousers & sun glasses wasn't Michael, and now Michael without glasses and a very close-up shot is not Michael either?. :?
i personally believe the only person that was mike was in smooth criminal, im no expert but thats just what i think :lol:
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The media sucks....NOTHIN' BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS!
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The media sucks....NOTHIN' BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS!
sorry for off topic!
But your sig.... wow!
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ITS MIKE WITH THE SILVER JACKET !!! :D :lol:
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Hmm, lets see. The only differences I see are the slight structure of the nose, hair, his "eyes" , his chin and the second picture is obiviously not from the dangerous era. :|
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The media sucks....NOTHIN' BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS!
sorry for off topic!
But your sig.... wow!
:oops:
Tis "nice", huh?(http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/images/smilies/wub.gif)
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I love this man!!!!! today, yesterday, before, after....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I love this man!!!!! today, yesterday, before, after....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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me too ! :lol: :lol:
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poor michael .
his liips . later in like 2005 he had lip agumentation . no denyinq .
he looks so sad :(
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I'll try it again: First pic not Mike, second is Mike, but way more recent than the Dangerous era...
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Both Mike
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what I can see in both pictures is an emptiness
not an emptiness of being lonely, but one of incompleteness
what I would give to hug that man!
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sorry guys but i just have to say!! GOD I WANA KISS THEM LIPS, NECK, FACE, EYEBROWS, NOSE.. EVERYTHING!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mrgreen:
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Both is Michael.. Some people think everything is fake.. Think about how Michael feel, when people call him fake..
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I don't think those photos are fake, but there is one of Mike on stage, with stage-lights, turn into "sepia" "black and white" picture, and the other is a picture visibly taken by a photograph, maybe he corrected the picture after...who knows ?
For me both are Michael. First one is definitly his eyes...Second can be from 90's but the look seems to has been corrected, has well has the light. Those pictures are not same quality, and separated from 15 years, how can we compare that ?
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Both pictures are Michael and he really didn't age,however I don't like either one of those pictures,his eyes are so sad.I have been a die hard MJ fan for over 33 years,and I always got weak in knees when I looked in his eyes ,but I don't like those pics.