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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Michael Joe Jackson ~ Michael Joseph Jackson => Topic started by: hesouttamylife on November 29, 2009, 01:15:28 PM

Title: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 29, 2009, 01:15:28 PM
I didn't know where to post this or how to find out if it had already been posted.  If it has, just ignore.  I think it is an interesting read.

http://www.lasentinel.net/Was-Michael-J ... angel.html (http://www.lasentinel.net/Was-Michael-Jackson-the-Archangel.html)
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Michael-IS-Beautiful on November 29, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
I was looking at stuff like that yesterday. There is something blessed about the name Michael. Everyone with that name is a pretty decent person. Michael Jackson in particular, yes I do believe he's  something of that proportion. I don't really care if people don't agree, that's my personal conviction. I believe that in Revelations, the  ArchAngel Michael was Michael Jackson because we are in the point of Revelations where I think it matches up. The only thing close to Jesus in Revelations was Michael.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Crescendo on November 29, 2009, 07:37:11 PM
Err.. well..

I, respectfully, disagree. I just think michael was a beautiful person. I think he was like you and me. He came into this world like we all did and he has or had pain and ailments and smiles and laughs like we all have had/have. He made mistakes like we all do. And he had/has the same feelings of love, anger, happiness, sadness like we all have.

But I'm not mocking your opinion, I just disagree.

With L.O.V.E. :)
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Michael-IS-Beautiful on November 29, 2009, 08:28:56 PM
I expect people to disagree with me on this cuz they always do.

Theres many things I have found out about Mj for instance, that I just refuse to talk about on here because the manner of the subject is not one I wish to dispute. To quit beating around the bush... Mj went through some things that he did not talk about. Sometimes rumors got deneyed by his people without his approval,  (on the subject of what I refuse to discuss) a person who worked for Michael told him (mj) that he had dispelled such and such rumor pertaining to Joe Jackson. Micheal got upset and said "how do you know thats not true". So while there are some light subjects I tread on here, theres a whole lot I and anyone who cares could find out about him if they looked. I wish for Michaels sake these things had been revealed but the media absolutely did not want people to know the truth and no forum is the place for it.

But I will and I have openly stated and firmly stand by my opinion. This age experiences no biblical things because they as in past ages refuse to see or accept that from their own time and people, though all the signs are there. Simply put no celebrity was ever or will ever be such a humanitarian.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: letstalk on December 02, 2009, 10:13:10 PM
I disagree, he was just  beautiful person who was flawed just like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: misha86 on December 02, 2009, 10:17:45 PM
Quote from: "Michael-IS-Beautiful"
I expect people to disagree with me on this cuz they always do.

Theres many things I have found out about Mj for instance, that I just refuse to talk about on here because the manner of the subject is not one I wish to dispute. To quit beating around the bush... Mj went through some things that he did not talk about. Sometimes rumors got deneyed by his people without his approval,  (on the subject of what I refuse to discuss) a person who worked for Michael told him (mj) that he had dispelled such and such rumor pertaining to Joe Jackson. Micheal got upset and said "how do you know thats not true". So while there are some light subjects I tread on here, theres a whole lot I and anyone who cares could find out about him if they looked. I wish for Michaels sake these things had been revealed but the media absolutely did not want people to know the truth and no forum is the place for it.

But I will and I have openly stated and firmly stand by my opinion. This age experiences no biblical things because they as in past ages refuse to see or accept that from their own time and people, though all the signs are there. Simply put no celebrity was ever or will ever be such a humanitarian.

i hate when people do this...lol know i want to know :lol:
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Jade Jackson on December 02, 2009, 11:16:48 PM
"All said, the question can be posed: "Who is like Michael Jackson?" The answer? No one on this earth. And likely no one in this lifetime. Enough said. Amen." (from the article you just linked above)

To me Michael Jackson is much larger than life.  I even think of him as a saint, a magical person who has reached heights of sublime ecstasy most of us cannot even imagine.  His gift is so great that I often feel in awestruck when I hear him sing or watch him perform and at times feel closer to god than I ever have in a church...so I am glad you brought this up..I have been thinking along the same lines.  A risky thing to say and something I wouldn't say to most people.  That is just the way I feel about it.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: EarthAngel90 on December 12, 2009, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Err.. well..

I, respectfully, disagree. I just think michael was a beautiful person. I think he was like you and me. He came into this world like we all did and he has or had pain and ailments and smiles and laughs like we all have had/have. He made mistakes like we all do. And he had/has the same feelings of love, anger, happiness, sadness like we all have.

But I'm not mocking your opinion, I just disagree.

With L.O.V.E. :)


Ditto w/Crescendo on this one all the way .....!
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: rowdyangel on December 12, 2009, 04:08:47 PM
Michael is a beautiful human being with many special gifts - there is no denying that - but I think that this Archangel Michael issue is taking things a bit too far.

We all love Michael dearly, obviously, but it's not good to place him on such a high pedestal.  If he's planning a comeback (and I stress 'IF'), can you imagine the pressure that placing him so high will put him under?

At the end of the day, Michael is a human being, like you and me.  He has faults and imperfections like everyone else.  He cuts and bleeds like you and me.

I love him with all of my heart but to claim that he is some heavenly being is ridiculous to say the least.  :roll:
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: hesouttamylife on December 12, 2009, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: "rowdyangel"
Michael is a beautiful human being with many special gifts - there is no denying that - but I think that this Archangel Michael issue is taking things a bit too far.

We all love Michael dearly, obviously, but it's not good to place him on such a high pedestal.  If he's planning a comeback (and I stress 'IF'), can you imagine the pressure that placing him so high will put him under?

At the end of the day, Michael is a human being, like you and me.  He has faults and imperfections like everyone else.  He cuts and bleeds like you and me.

I love him with all of my heart but to claim that he is some heavenly being is ridiculous to say the least.  :roll:

  There are so many other claims that are far more ridiculous if you ask me.  But I am neither judge nor the jury, so I don't  discredit anyone else.  AS I SAID, this is MY OPINION and you don't have to agree or even read it.   :roll:
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: DooDoo on December 12, 2009, 04:50:31 PM
Quote from: "rowdyangel"
Michael is a beautiful human being with many special gifts - there is no denying that - but I think that this Archangel Michael issue is taking things a bit too far.

We all love Michael dearly, obviously, but it's not good to place him on such a high pedestal.  If he's planning a comeback (and I stress 'IF'), can you imagine the pressure that placing him so high will put him under?

At the end of the day, Michael is a human being, like you and me.  He has faults and imperfections like everyone else.  He cuts and bleeds like you and me.

I love him with all of my heart but to claim that he is some heavenly being is ridiculous to say the least.  :roll:
Ditto.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: hesouttamylife on December 12, 2009, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: hesouttamylife
I didn't know where to post this or how to find out if it had already been posted.  If it has, just ignore.  I think it is an interesting read.


I don't think the initial post asked anyone to believe he was a heavenly being.  Can anyone dispute that :?:
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Believe 777 on December 12, 2009, 05:01:53 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
I didn't know where to post this or how to find out if it had already been posted.  If it has, just ignore.  I think it is an interesting read.


I don't think the initial post asked anyone to believe he was a heavenly being.  Can anyone dispute that :?:

You may like to have a look at a thread called "I found THE clue" by Oetoort. There is lots of information on there regarding this.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Truth_Freedom on December 24, 2009, 05:32:08 PM
Angels do not solely exist in heaven and they have been known to take on human form and live amongst human beings. If you research this you will see what I am saying. The Bible even says, "Be careful how you entertain strangers for they may be angels unaware."

Hebrews 13:2
Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.

The word Angel simply means messenger. Michael certainly was that. In the Greek (Angelos) means messenger.

There is a series about this on youtube as well for those who are into metaphysics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kkEBnH ... L&index=19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kkEBnHTP8&feature=PlayList&p=BAE1C207DBB46C9E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19)
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: liegi on December 24, 2009, 05:36:14 PM
This is so strange.  I had the same impression, I don't know why.  There is something about him that is uplifting that no one during our time has managed to achieve.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: hesouttamylife on December 24, 2009, 06:03:29 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
Angels do not solely exist in heaven and they have been known to take on human form and live amongst human beings. If you research this you will see what I am saying. The Bible even says, "Be careful how you entertain strangers for they may be angels unaware."

Hebrews 13:2
Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.

The word Angel simply means messenger. Michael certainly was that. In the Greek (Angelos) means messenger.

There is a series about this on youtube as well for those who are into metaphysics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kkEBnH ... L&index=19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kkEBnHTP8&feature=PlayList&p=BAE1C207DBB46C9E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19)

thank you voice of reason.  There is always more than one definition to a word. If people weren't so eager to discredit others, the world would ALREADY be a better place.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Cory Loves MJ on March 14, 2010, 01:14:40 PM
I agree with the ones that feel that Michael has been an Angel or messenger. I have been reading too, and the Bible describes Archangel Michael as the Field Commander of the ARMY OF GOD. Archangel Micahel is described in the Book of Daniel in the Bible as one of the chief princes and, this really gave me goose bumps when i read it in the Bible, Michael was also refered to as  "great prince who stands up for the children of your [Daniel's] people". So, I have to say I am with you on this thought. I, like you, feel that I cannot share this with almost nobody becasue they will looking at me like I am taking things too far, or that it makes no sense. But, most times, signs are always there to guide us, to know the truth, to BELIEVE. These are the kind of things that test your faith, because Faith means believing in something although you are not able to see it.  Im not saying that Michael is exactly the Archangel, but, like somebody else mentioned before, that angels sometimes take the form of humans to be among us, they protect us, and warn us of things. Michael Jackson is definetely a Human Being that has been touched by the Hand of God, everything from his natural born skills as to the way he dances and moves, the way he writes songs, his intelligence is amazing, but also, as a human being, he is very humble, Humanitarian, Great Father, Son, Brother, Friend, and he alway tell us that he loves us all.  Like you guys mentioned before, when I hear him singing, or performing, i feel very touched by his words, like angelical, It really calms me down, and makes me think about the things I could do better if I were a little more like him ( which by the way, he said in an interview that he tries to immitate Jesus in his way of living). So, I do believe that Michael Jackson is SOMEONE VERY SPECIAL, we have to appreciate him more and listen.

That is just my humble opinion, but I respect everybody's point of view.  

Reporting to THE ARMY OF LOVE!!!
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: lynnandsofee on March 14, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
Michael is something special.   Why do you think we have all been clued to this website for 8 months?  Not because all of us don't have a life outside of Michael Jackson.!!!  We are drawn here and remain here because something very strong inside of us is keeping us here.  I don't know why it would be so impossible for some to believe he was a messenger for God, Why Not?  Did you believe Christ was sent here for us?  Sounds like some don't.  I am not saying we should look at Michael like Christ, but why not believe that God Almighty sent someone good for a change to help us be what we were meant to be.  Loving, caring, humans !!!  LOOK INSIDE YOUR HEART PEOPLE. Maybe the answer is there, and not in your logic.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 14, 2010, 04:05:24 PM
Michael is the most special human being there is, he truly is an angel or arch angel he is a messenger from God. Archangel Michael is the messenger from God the warrior of God and defeats Satan and all evil if I'm right about that. There is definitely alot of truth in this.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on March 14, 2010, 04:17:31 PM
Quote from: "liegi"
This is so strange.  I had the same impression, I don't know why.  There is something about him that is uplifting that no one during our time has managed to achieve.

Yes, agree with you. Strange ...

If there are "special entities" walking on earth he might be /have been one of those ... At least he is / was unique. One of a kind ... you`ll probably won`t see in ever again ...
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Believe 777 on March 14, 2010, 06:24:44 PM
Thank you, you have all put a smile on my face. :D . It's so uplifting to see people seeing the reality of this theory. Michael is unique, whether he has a label/title or not, he is connected directly to the soul of the world and the Universe. He has been channelling this love and strength to all who hear him and now he has even more strength with all his new believers. We believe in Michael because he believes. He couldn't pull something this big off if he didn't believe completely. He truly is out of this world and I believe completely that he going to heal our world, and what a way to do it!!!
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 14, 2010, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: "lynnandsofee"
Michael is something special.   Why do you think we have all been clued to this website for 8 months?  Not because all of us don't have a life outside of Michael Jackson.!!!  We are drawn here and remain here because something very strong inside of us is keeping us here...

I can agree with that!!
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Quote from: "liegi"
This is so strange.  I had the same impression, I don't know why.  There is something about him that is uplifting that no one during our time has managed to achieve.

Yes, agree with you. Strange ...

If there are "special entities" walking on earth he might be /have been one of those ... At least he is / was unique. One of a kind ... you`ll probably won`t see in ever again ...

I can agree with that too.. (hopefully not the wont ever see again part)  :(

Quote from: "Jade Jackson"
"All said, the question can be posed: "Who is like Michael Jackson?" The answer? No one on this earth. And likely no one in this lifetime. Enough said. Amen." (from the article you just linked above)

To me Michael Jackson is much larger than life.  I even think of him as a saint, a magical person who has reached heights of sublime ecstasy most of us cannot even imagine.  His gift is so great that I often feel in awestruck when I hear him sing or watch him perform and at times feel closer to god than I ever have in a church...so I am glad you brought this up..I have been thinking along the same lines.  A risky thing to say and something I wouldn't say to most people.  That is just the way I feel about it.


I agree with that too. The religious sects of this world would be so jealous of the praise of such a title given to an artist that they would make him an enemy.  :(  but when you are righteous at heart, somethings are understood without being said  8-)
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Cory Loves MJ on March 15, 2010, 07:59:22 AM
Quote from: "Believe 777"
Thank you, you have all put a smile on my face. :D . It's so uplifting to see people seeing the reality of this theory. Michael is unique, whether he has a label/title or not, he is connected directly to the soul of the world and the Universe. He has been channelling this love and strength to all who hear him and now he has even more strength with all his new believers. We believe in Michael because he believes. He couldn't pull something this big off if he didn't believe completely. He truly is out of this world and I believe completely that he going to heal our world, and what a way to do it!!!



Yupp yupp!!! It put a smile on my face too!!!
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: melody on June 07, 2010, 02:09:14 PM
There's many parallels between MJ and the Archangel. At the very least, Michael - who avidly read the bible - could've taken it upon himself to assume the role of "Michael the Archangel".

As long as we're getting biblical here, and in regards to his middle name, I came across this commentary talking about the biblical character "Joseph" :

Quote
“He was loved and hated, favored and abused, tempted and trusted, exalted and abased. Yet at no point in the one-hundred-and-ten-year life of Joseph did he ever seem to get his eyes off God or cease to trust him. Adversity did not harden his character. Prosperity did not ruin him. He was the same in private as in public. He was a truly great man.”

Katherine named her son well.  :)

edit: In regards to the hoax, I realized another parallel: In Genesis 37, Joseph's brothers claim and make it seem as though "Joseph" has died, when in all actuality he's alive. Hmm...

edit #2: viewtopic.php?p=150470#p150470 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=150470#p150470)
"MJonmind" realized the "Joseph" similarity before me (admittedly, it's a much more in-depth one; I just started reading the bible) :P

Quote from: "MJonmind"
I tried to decipher the words but only got so far. Is someone good with handwriting? Maybe that's why they took the cement to neverland. They're building an underground storage or living compound for possible future bad scenario.

This sparks a vague thought I had a while back. Maybe with all the emphasis on Joe or Joseph in his name, there is a direction to the Joseph in the Bible, where the story parallels Michael. He has 11 siblings, favored by his father which makes his brothers jealous. They sell him into slavery, but have a mock death of him by killing a goat, covering Joseph's coat in blood and deceiving their father. Joseph is hired in Egypt, falsely accused making advances at his master's wife, in prison 2 years, his ability to interpret dreams brings him to second in command in all of Egypt. There he immediately begins storage of food (harvested in 7 years of plenty) in vast granaries for 7 years of famine ahead. His famous verse spoken to his brothers who basically had to bow to him as Pharoah 2nd in command when he finally revealed himself (BAM), "You meant it for evil, but God meant it for good, to save many people alive," Genesis 50:20 interesting numbers.  Also the number of Joseph's family that moved to Egypt was 70 (Genesis 46:27). If anyone wanted to take the story further there are probably many other parallels cause it goes into a lot more detail. Joseph is always seen throughout the Bible as a picture of Christ, just as Michael is.
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: the_gloved_one on June 16, 2010, 07:25:52 AM
I recently visited Greece (Lindos) for my sisters wedding. On a trip to the next village (Lardos) i noticed a sign post for the monastery of the archangel Michael. Unfortunately i did not have time to visit this place  but, i was wondering if they are any members amongst us who may have or can shed any more light on this. I also remember a post  under the topic "MJ house security tapes could be found on 18 Jan" suggested that Michael maybe seeking refuge on the Greek Islands. Just a thought...

Quote from: "onikoti"
@KINGdom52
( Greece wouldn't be a great place to hide someone ?????  )
This is an offer !!!

You don't know how many times I thought of that...I believe our small  islands could offer him a great hideout since they re almost abandoned during winter time..and  guess what???It's winter!What about Amorgos or Folegandros in December???How many people would be left there  to recognize him??? A few and very old ones not particularly interested in show business area..And our weather it's actually pretty much suitable to the one he was accustomed to.. Well.. :lol: I'm almost ready to head it for the islands (all three thousand of them!) to locate him... :lol: Thanks for cheering me up KINGdom52.I need your support.

(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac126/the_gloved_one/Untitled-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: Johnkillrory on January 13, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
I have watched Michael since he was young. I always knew he was a very special spirit and would play a important part in last days events. The word in the bible always stuck out to me. It talks about the angel Michael and how he would stand up amongst the people right before Jesus returned. To stand up amongst the people means he will be here on earth and then reveal himself by walking the walk and spreading the message of Love,peace and hope
Here is one of the interpretations from the bibles.
At that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. ~Daniel,,,  Remember there is only one who is perfect and that is GOD, Christ and the holy spirit and all are one. I believe Michael Jackson is the prince and was not perfect as no one is. He will continue to live forever. I am alive and here forever. Before you say NO! Remember when Jesus came the first time, they did not believe  he was the deliverer because they knew how the redeemer would come and boy where they where wrong. There are many many people who now believe like I do that we have seen the protector of the people....Like I said before Michael was very anointed and everyone who knew him would tell you there was a power that came from him and when you where in the same room as him he would stand out amongst all the celebrity's. So keep an open mind and check the facts. It leads to Michael the great prince....JJ
Title: Re: Is Michael the Arch Angel?
Post by: themjkiss on January 14, 2011, 01:19:00 AM
The thought that Michael is a angel, is a sweet thought, he is a beautiful person in many ways.. But there are many other people on this earth that are beautiful with their own unique gifts to, Michael is not the only special one, we are all special in our own ways.

It is true angels can appear as humans, but when, and if they do, it is only breifly that they are amonst us, usually this is because they have a specific task from God to perform, once done with the task they are gone. It is not possible for a angel to be born into this world and live amonst us, angels are seperate beings from us. As the bible states, they are our protectors, helpers, and messengers of God.

The name Micheal is a very nice name, I like it very much because it reminds me of the Arch Angel Michael who is a warrior angel, who fought the great battle in heaven against satan.  
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