Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: 7even on January 26, 2010, 12:11:41 AM

Title: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: 7even on January 26, 2010, 12:11:41 AM
The truths were already revealed to you! But I can see that most of you still focus on if Michael is alive or not. He IS alive and this is so obvious! Remember all of the clues you have found! None of them could have given to you by someone else. Michael left them for you to find that he is alive! He’s a genius, can’t you see that? He’s going step by step! First, he left clues because he wanted us to know that he is alive! And then we had This Is It which contains more clues that he is alive. And then Michael sent This Is Also It to make us understand why he did this! If you think that TIAI is a waste of time or full of crap, I’m sorry my friend but that means that YOU GOT NOTHING about why Michael did this! And all of the inVestigation you made is a waste of time! Forget about the hoax, forget about everything we had told you, forget it all. And don’t worry because Michael will come back. But you will never ever understand who Michael is, what he wants and why he did this. You will keep on living in your fake world! Yes, you will get what you want. The KING will come back! Because that’s the last step of the hoax! Michael is NOT only going to come back to show us that he is alive but also he is going to come back to show the world the media is full of lies and just trash! It’s so sad to see some of you still don’t get the message! You don’t even read what TIAI says! Or you read it, like it but just a few minutes later you forget about it and start to talk about if Michael is alive or not. You’re still looking for clues that prove Michael is alive. There will be no more clues about it. That was step 1 and we passed that step. Michael gave you the clues about why he did it. That was step 2 and we passed it too. But take a look where you are still. You’re calling Forest Lawn if Michael’s body is there, you’re still talking about Dave Dave or the blonde lady, you’re talking still about the ambulance picture and more. But those were all in our step 1. You have to move on! You have to get to step 2! You HAVE TO understand why Michael did this! Because if you don’t get it, everything he did, everything he dreamed of is going to turn to be a big zero, nothing!

You’re asking if Michael is alive and fine and you wonder if he’s going to come back. Let me tell you. He is alive! He is fine! And yes, he is going to come back! So can we get to the next step please! And you have to know one more thing! After Michael comes back, he is not going to be able to talk about these issues. Do you think that he will come back and start talking about NWO or illuminati? Even if he wants to talk about these issues, it would be too dangerous for him and for his family! Can’t you see that he’s spending his time to wake you up and start spreading the truth? He did this to wake us up and he wants us to help him to save the world! It is told us that 2012 is the end of the world but the end doesn’t need to come by the hands of the mother nature! The evil is between us, and it is not the mother nature, it is human! And it is NOT the governments or presidents to stop the evil. IT IS YOU! IT IS US! And if we do nothing yes, the world’s end is so close! Don’t only become aware of things! Share them! Spread the message! Don’t even think or hesitate if you can do it, because you can. You can tell to a friend, to a neighbour or to a collegue about the truths! They can think that you’re crazy. They may not believe you about NWO or illuminati but trust me my friends, you will put a “What if” question inside the brain of that person. And next time s/he would start to think like “What if all of the things s/he told me is true?” and that’s when s/he starts to wake up! And s/he will tell others about the truths and they will tell others and THAT’S WHEN THE NATIONS WAKE UP and UNITE TO STOP THE EVIL! Big changes start with small steps, don’t forget that!

I’m so happy to see that you’re building the Army of L.O.V.E. That will be the strongest army soon. But at the same time I see some of the believers deny to become a soldier of L.O.V.E. I understand that they want to look different. They think that Army of L.O.V.E  is about some mods of the hoax forums and about their ideology. Let me tell you this my friends; being different is good but NOT THIS TIME! You’re doing it in a very wrong time and in a very wrong case! Army of L.O.V.E is NOT about Mo&Souza or Study or none of the hoax forum mods. It is about Michael, it is about spreading the truth, it is about coming together, it is about YOU! YOU SHOULDN’T DIVIDE, YOU NEED TO UNITE! Don’t forget why this army was built! And don’t forget that you will be stronger with your army of truths.

That’s ok if you don’t want to join the army. It is something symbolic! BUT YOU HAVE TO LEARN THE TRUTHS and START SPREADING THEM! Because noone else is going to make it for you. It is you who is going to make that change! So, let’s make that change! Don’t wait, don’t spend your time no more. I promise you, Michael is going to come back! But now you have very important things to do! Go and start spreading the truth. And don’t do it only for Michael! Do it for yourself, for your loved ones, for this world! Don’t forget that WE ARE THE WORLD!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: michangelo on January 26, 2010, 01:02:17 AM
8-) Et voilà !! this is the way to do ! Great post!...Thank's  ;)

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: jackeline on January 26, 2010, 01:14:08 AM
thanks so much for this post!!!!! ;)  :)
It makes me feel good.....
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on January 26, 2010, 01:21:47 AM
Fantastic post.  Thankyou.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 01:24:32 AM
I COULND'T AGREE MORE!!! Let's start spreading the truth NOW. We don't have so much time left! Michael is alive. We need to do what he asked from us to do. Maybe we should have a thread here and we should post what we do to spread the truth. It doesn't need to be something big but we can share everything here too. What do you think guys?  For example, yesterday I told 2 of my neighbours about illuminati and they were shocked. I don't think that they truely believe me but as seven wrote, I think I put a "what if" in them :D
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: sailya on January 26, 2010, 01:40:07 AM
English is not my mother language,I hope you don't mind if I said something incorrect :oops:

I'm very happy to see your message.It's very appealling and needed.
For me,before I knew the 'death',I was lost.But now I'm found :)
Just because of Michael,he is the light that lighten my heart and open my eyes.
So I see a new world with truth that I never kenw before.It changed me a lot and I'm a rebirth now. :D  
Thank you so much!Thank you all!
This is a great adventure,and the future depends on every one of US!
Unity is strength!WE have to be the 'MAN in the mirror'.
We should Becoming L.O.V.E. & Acting L.O.V.E.instead of just saying: It's all for L.O.V.E.
It's really the time to WAKE UP!
GOD bless ALL.
 :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: KAY083121 on January 26, 2010, 01:41:16 AM
I have been telling ppl about the NWO or illuminati for years... but now those ppl see that the things I was telling them are starting to come true...

Weather or not ppl think I'm crazy I will continue to spread this truth... and I will join the army of Love..



LOVE is what matter most in this world... not what can be bought...

I truely believe this and I will not keep my mouth shut when it comes to this issue.. The truth need to be told, before it's to late... If you don't believe what this person has posted all I can say is if you put half as much time into learning more about this, that you have trying to find out about Michael, then very soon you will believe too!

We must spread the word and come together as one... You know you can feel it in your heart so stop trying to fight it... just close your eyes and let you heart guide you... Soon you will be set free as the truth is all you need..
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Butterfly J on January 26, 2010, 01:47:03 AM
Thank you for this post!
I understand every word yous say.
I´m proud to be a part of Army Of Love and I know he comes back - actually I think he IS back ;)
Together we can do it, it takes time but we can do it!
 :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bad_girl on January 26, 2010, 02:37:49 AM
Quote from: "7even"
The truths were already revealed to you! But I can see that most of you still focus on if Michael is alive or not. He IS alive and this is so obvious! Remember all of the clues you have found! None of them could have given to you by someone else. Michael left them for you to find that he is alive! He’s a genius, can’t you see that? He’s going step by step! First, he left clues because he wanted us to know that he is alive! And then we had This Is It which contains more clues that he is alive. And then Michael sent This Is Also It to make us understand why he did this! If you think that TIAI is a waste of time or full of crap, I’m sorry my friend but that means that YOU GOT NOTHING about why Michael did this! And all of the inVestigation you made is a waste of time! Forget about the hoax, forget about everything we had told you, forget it all. And don’t worry because Michael will come back. But you will never ever understand who Michael is, what he wants and why he did this. You will keep on living in your fake world! Yes, you will get what you want. The KING will come back! Because that’s the last step of the hoax! Michael is NOT only going to come back to show us that he is alive but also he is going to come back to show the world the media is full of lies and just trash! It’s so sad to see some of you still don’t get the message! You don’t even read what TIAI says! Or you read it, like it but just a few minutes later you forget about it and start to talk about if Michael is alive or not. You’re still looking for clues that prove Michael is alive. There will be no more clues about it. That was step 1 and we passed that step. Michael gave you the clues about why he did it. That was step 2 and we passed it too. But take a look where you are still. You’re calling Forest Lawn if Michael’s body is there, you’re still talking about Dave Dave or the blonde lady, you’re talking still about the ambulance picture and more. But those were all in our step 1. You have to move on! You have to get to step 2! You HAVE TO understand why Michael did this! Because if you don’t get it, everything he did, everything he dreamed of is going to turn to be a big zero, nothing!

You’re asking if Michael is alive and fine and you wonder if he’s going to come back. Let me tell you. He is alive! He is fine! And yes, he is going to come back! So can we get to the next step please! And you have to know one more thing! After Michael comes back, he is not going to be able to talk about these issues. Do you think that he will come back and start talking about NWO or illuminati? Even if he wants to talk about these issues, it would be too dangerous for him and for his family! Can’t you see that he’s spending his time to wake you up and start spreading the truth? He did this to wake us up and he wants us to help him to save the world! It is told us that 2012 is the end of the world but the end doesn’t need to come by the hands of the mother nature! The evil is between us, and it is not the mother nature, it is human! And it is NOT the governments or presidents to stop the evil. IT IS YOU! IT IS US! And if we do nothing yes, the world’s end is so close! Don’t only become aware of things! Share them! Spread the message! Don’t even think or hesitate if you can do it, because you can. You can tell to a friend, to a neighbour or to a collegue about the truths! They can think that you’re crazy. They may not believe you about NWO or illuminati but trust me my friends, you will put a “What if” question inside the brain of that person. And next time s/he would start to think like “What if all of the things s/he told me is true?” and that’s when s/he starts to wake up! And s/he will tell others about the truths and they will tell others and THAT’S WHEN THE NATIONS WAKE UP and UNITE TO STOP THE EVIL! Big changes start with small steps, don’t forget that!

I’m so happy to see that you’re building the Army of L.O.V.E. That will be the strongest army soon. But at the same time I see some of the believers deny to become a soldier of L.O.V.E. I understand that they want to look different. They think that Army of L.O.V.E  is about some mods of the hoax forums and about their ideology. Let me tell you this my friends; being different is good but NOT THIS TIME! You’re doing it in a very wrong time and in a very wrong case! Army of L.O.V.E is NOT about Mo&Souza or Study or none of the hoax forum mods. It is about Michael, it is about spreading the truth, it is about coming together, it is about YOU! YOU SHOULDN’T DIVIDE, YOU NEED TO UNITE! Don’t forget why this army was built! And don’t forget that you will be stronger with your army of truths.

That’s ok if you don’t want to join the army. It is something symbolic! BUT YOU HAVE TO LEARN THE TRUTHS and START SPREADING THEM! Because noone else is going to make it for you. It is you who is going to make that change! So, let’s make that change! Don’t wait, don’t spend your time no more. I promise you, Michael is going to come back! But now you have very important things to do! Go and start spreading the truth. And don’t do it only for Michael! Do it for yourself, for your loved ones, for this world! Don’t forget that WE ARE THE WORLD!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
you know what???? put your money where your mouth is and maybe, just maybe we can believe you (there have been so many like you claiming to know all) either prove it or for me you belong in the list of trolls and fakes, no offense meant, just that i'm so damn sorry to see the more gullible members on this forum being taken for a ride again...there is nothing wrong with searching for the truth until we are given something that would allow us to stop searching. and there you go again, accusing people of not having read TIAI... let me tell you something, not everybody gets the meaning of it, does it mean they're stupid?? no, maybe they don't believe in illuminati or nwo or maybe  they don't believe in the bible...so again, either explain better, prove what you're saying with some mind blowing PROOF not theory and then yeah maybe some will be ready to BELIEVE in...
oh yeah, i almost forgot... it's all for L.O.V.E

ps i'm writing this post for myself first of all, and also for those who are too afraid to stand up for themselves, for fear of being called stupid or ignorant and god knows what else
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 03:32:30 AM
Quote from: "bad_girl"
you know what???? put your money where your mouth is and maybe, just maybe we can believe you (there have been so many like you claiming to know all) either prove it or for me you belong in the list of trolls and fakes, no offense meant, just that i'm so damn sorry to see the more gullible members on this forum being taken for a ride again...there is nothing wrong with searching for the truth until we are given something that would allow us to stop searching. and there you go again, accusing people of not having read TIAI... let me tell you something, not everybody gets the meaning of it, does it mean they're stupid?? no, maybe they don't believe in illuminati or nwo or maybe  they don't believe in the bible...so again, either explain better, prove what you're saying with some mind blowing PROOF not theory and then yeah maybe some will be ready to BELIEVE in...
oh yeah, i almost forgot... it's all for L.O.V.E

ps i'm writing this post for myself first of all, and also for those who are too afraid to stand up for themselves, for fear of being called stupid or ignorant and god knows what else

I'm sorry I don't want to offend you but why are you so negative? Seven says anything wrong and if you read what TIAI wrote from day 1 you would understand that TIAI is the real deal. And seven is telling us what we really need to do. That's such a very positive, inspirational message. seven is right about what we still focus on too much. I'm sorry but what kind of PROOF are you guys still expecting? That proof only can be Michael himself getting out and say hello to you on TV? Because it seems like all kinds of proofs are inadequate to you. I believe that we all should get our minds right and get to the next stage :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 26, 2010, 04:06:18 AM
Who are you, 7EVEN?
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: sanmike on January 26, 2010, 04:12:03 AM
Yes, I think I have. Thank you for your post. It is clearing up things for the people who cannot see them.
I think that if we are united we could change the world, or we could prevent a big disaster that could destroy our world.
I have understood Michael's message from the beginning of this hoax. He is spreading this message for a long time. Only a blind man could not see it.
I admire Michael for his courage and his devotion for nature, people and our world.
Thank you, dear Michael, for all that you are doing.
I am with you. I know that if you want to accomplish something the only way to do it is to begin, with small steps at first. So, dear friends, spread L.O.V.E. and try to change the world in good. Make a better world. If we are better persons, the world will be better.

It's all for L.O.V.E. as Michael said.

Much LOVE to you all and God bless you!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: onemorechance on January 26, 2010, 04:37:15 AM
the only thing I don't get why he had to "die" to spread the message or make us do it:o
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Hopeless on January 26, 2010, 04:55:41 AM
Hello 7even,
thank you for your post !
I can feel what you write, i can understand but my english isn't good enough to explain all my thoughts.
Between the lines i feel the great desperation everyone knows who told the truth, who wants to wake up the people ....notbody wants to hear, nobody wants to see....it felt so bad ...i know so good !
Before 7 months my life makes a change...i allways be a critical women, dosn't trust and believe...allways the question...can it be ?...in my brain. That's allso wrong, i know... :cry:
Untill then i don't know much about Michael...i liked much of his songs, but i don't see much tv and don't read any tabloids.
Much work to look at his life and become a feeling for his charakter/aura, but i think i get it !
I feel a very sensitive man who notice the problems around him, the big and the small and he can't close his eyes....he must do something and so the idea was born long ago...i think...
I can't go in the details...i hope i say the main thing.
My world is much smaler...who has seen so much from the world and the people like Michael ? But when i saw pain and mistakes i can't rest before i have done something against it.
So i understand the reason...he can't stop it, he can't go one.
But the thinks he focused are much bigger and to do something in this is very dangerous...he has children and a family and he must protect them and himself....a difficult thing.
I try to wake up the people around me....there are intelligent persons, normaly using there brain....but it was hard work to make them see....that can't be....i hear....so i have bought some bocks about it and gave it around...
Thanks that you write that there still was a ...what is...that makes me not to give up !!!
Sadly the most people don't reached the message....they are still crying about your " death " , or talking about other simple things. :lol:
We must grow up, we need more people, untill now we are the idiots and when i continue a lost my friends or there are calling the ambulance and took me to the psychiatry and when i continue there my convictions i never ever get out there. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Please give us informations to make it better...we are not so long at that adventure and can't see it all.
OMG, if Michael dosen't wear his gold pants and other sexy clothes i am sure the fans has noticed the lyrics from the songs  :oops:
So, i must put my dictionary away and make my work...
Have a blessed day ! All will be good !
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bad_girl on January 26, 2010, 04:57:44 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
you know what???? put your money where your mouth is and maybe, just maybe we can believe you (there have been so many like you claiming to know all) either prove it or for me you belong in the list of trolls and fakes, no offense meant, just that i'm so damn sorry to see the more gullible members on this forum being taken for a ride again...there is nothing wrong with searching for the truth until we are given something that would allow us to stop searching. and there you go again, accusing people of not having read TIAI... let me tell you something, not everybody gets the meaning of it, does it mean they're stupid?? no, maybe they don't believe in illuminati or nwo or maybe  they don't believe in the bible...so again, either explain better, prove what you're saying with some mind blowing PROOF not theory and then yeah maybe some will be ready to BELIEVE in...
oh yeah, i almost forgot... it's all for L.O.V.E

ps i'm writing this post for myself first of all, and also for those who are too afraid to stand up for themselves, for fear of being called stupid or ignorant and god knows what else

I'm sorry I don't want to offend you but why are you so negative? Seven says anything wrong and if you read what TIAI wrote from day 1 you would understand that TIAI is the real deal. And seven is telling us what we really need to do. That's such a very positive, inspirational message. seven is right about what we still focus on too much. I'm sorry but what kind of PROOF are you guys still expecting? That proof only can be Michael himself getting out and say hello to you on TV? Because it seems like all kinds of proofs are inadequate to you. I believe that we all should get our minds right and get to the next stage :)
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bad_girl on January 26, 2010, 04:59:48 AM
oh and btw.... these last seven months sure taught me not to believe ANYTHING and to question EVERYTHING
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 26, 2010, 05:23:42 AM
Great post, I think some will need this, we need to wake up and look for more even beyond clues and stuff that is all past us now, we need to look forward within the hoax.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ralu on January 26, 2010, 05:34:23 AM
Ok what are we doing in order to spread the message? In the first place we should only spread that part of the message in which we believe, that part of the message that allows no space for “What if?”. “What if?” means confusion and in the end it means fear. People are afraid of being confused. And all of a sudden, the whole MJ message resumes to NWO and Illuminati?

Let me tell you what I choose to spread: I militate for a correct attitude towards everything that surrounds us; I militate for compassion, unconditional love, forgiveness, thinking twice before judging anybody; trying to expose a different opinion with kind and positive words; rejecting hate, envy, anger, especially when these feelings are induced to us on purpose; acknowledging and showing the best in every single person that we know. I use to make people aware of the politicians lies, of the disgusting net around the world’s leaders. I am deeply upset about the fact that they are killing the health system and the educational system. Medics and Professors have the lowest revenues, the hospitals are a wreck, people must pay for their treatments and they pray to find a good doctor to check them; the ambulances reach to you after 2 hours after you called them, if you don’t know anybody  working in the hospital in order to help you, only God can help you. And we are talking about people that pay their duties every month. Education is even worse. Nobody wants to become a teacher anymore, the evaluation system changes every year, the students are confused and they stop trying to understand anything. Teachers don’t teach properly in the classroom in order to determine as many children as possible to ask for privet lessons which are paid, of course. They learn from very young ages that everything is for sale and nobody explains them about values, passion, positive feelings. They became feeling-less. Nothing moves them. They can see angry people, sick people, corrupt people every where and they think this is the normal way to be. Romania rose the day before hundreds of thousand of dollars for the Haiti victims. Do you know who donated? Mostly the retired persons. And can we blame the youngsters because they feel no compassion? How come, if all that they learned about this world is negative? My honest opinion is that we are responsible to spread the love in the first place, before talking about all the criminal organizations. Believe me: everybody knows about these bad things. Crime, conspiracies, dirty games, filthy politics…they can feel the results on their own skin. The LOVE they forgot. The COMPASSION they forgot. THINKING POSITIVE and BEING FAIR they forgot. So, I made my choice. I will work on the positive side. I will demonstrate how love can save you; I will demonstrate how hate and anger and fear can kill your soul.

I whish you all the best and please don’t feel offended, coz I don’t think any of your reaction is wrong. I think the same thing can be right and wrong in the same time. Depends on the angle you choose to look at it. LOVE before you L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: whisper on January 26, 2010, 06:00:00 AM
I totally agree with u 7 ....
Really ppl should move on , with all the clues that we find and all the signs that r soo abvious and most of all after 7 MONTHS they still doubt the idea and still are'nt sure yet !
we figure out more and more stuff by a day and and when nothing happens or something happens that was not expected they straigtly go back to doubt weither he's alive or not .
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: sanmike on January 26, 2010, 06:05:00 AM
Ralu said
"Ok what are we doing in order to spread the message? In the first place we should only spread that part of the message in which we believe, that part of the message that allows no space for “What if?”. “What if?” means confusion and in the end it means fear. People are afraid of being confused. And all of a sudden, the whole MJ message resumes to NWO and Illuminati?"

Dear Ralu, great post!
Yes, we should spread the message that we understand. Michael's message means LOVE for me.
If a person is doing everything with love, then he/she could not do something wrong. Then, I suppose he/she could not be driven by money in what is doing. Then, with love you could contribute to a better world.
Maybe there are many times when we like to put the blame on secret societies for the wrong course of our lives. But, instead, we should try to see what are we doing, as individuals, to make a better world for us and our children?
Sometimes, to make a change in a society, there is a need for a man who could influence others, but he has to make a sacrifice. Maybe this man is Michael, and maybe that is the motive for he choose to "die". Maybe this was the only way he could make people pay attention to his words.
Much LOVE to you all.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Kirsche on January 26, 2010, 06:33:19 AM
7EVEN, thank you soo much, for this great post!

You're so right!  For me, Michael is so much alive, that I don't need anymore Clues or hints! Even though  there always new clues coming without searching them..


But I already began to spread his Message: to my family, at work ( Even though I think they didn't get because they're all livin in their own world of numbers and datas)

My family just think that I still can't handle with Michaels "passing", but sometimes, my  mum is also thinking about this whole story as I told her....Even my boyfriend, who always said "Come on, he would never do that" became more cautios now because I asked him "And Why would he never do that??"  And he had no answer.

So, again: For me, Michael is so much alive. I can feel it!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Xsy on January 26, 2010, 07:04:52 AM
We, the hoaxers are only 0,000002 % of all people in the world who suffer the loss of MJ, and now this 7even-guy, TNZ, TIAI, Midnight and whoever comes to us minority to tell us to believe and spread the love and message of Michael??? What about all the other people who are still suffering and loving MJ? If it´s a hoax, how can they get the message if this "important" people only came to us hoaxers to tell us?  :roll:  :?:
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Kirsche on January 26, 2010, 07:19:46 AM
Quote from: "Xsy"
We, the hoaxers are only 0,000002 % of all people in the world who suffer the loss of MJ, and now this 7even-guy, TNZ, TIAI, Midnight and whoever comes to us minority to tell us to believe and spread the love and message of Michael??? What about all the other people who are still suffering and loving MJ? If it´s a hoax, how can they get the message if this "important" people only came to us hoaxers to tell us?  :roll:  :?:


That's why we have to tell them...I already and did it. First they thought I'm Crazy and couldn't let go but I've shown them about what we found out etc..and my boyfriend (who actually is a big NON believer) started to doubt the whole story,,,,,
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Hopeless on January 26, 2010, 07:36:24 AM
I the fan forum it is forbidden to write about the hoax....they are still crying .
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Game Player on January 26, 2010, 07:39:49 AM
There is already sufficient enough clues for us to easily conclude he is alive. Now is the time to start spreading the message we see. The running theme of TDCAU and MJ telling us we cant depend on our government to take care of us is major. The people shouldn't be scared of the government, it should be the other way around.

Maybe Michael will come back sooner if we organize and spread the word.


Also I want to add that the new clues that come out aren't for us existing believers to solidify our belief, but for new people to catch onto and doubt if he is alive or not. Then they will come to a place like this and be exposed to all the evidence and the messages. Then they can join an existing movement that is spreading MJ's message.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: DooDoo on January 26, 2010, 08:19:05 AM
Thanks for posting this, I think some of us need to read how important it is to spread the message, to BE the message. It's not an easy task, I know, it's not easy to look at the man in the mirror and "make that change" but if we really comprehend the message and the importance of it , we should try as hard as we can. That's what Michael wants us to do, that's what he wants us to understand and, for crying out loud, I'm gonna do that  :D  :D
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Brilly on January 26, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
thanks 4 your post MICHAEL JACKSON! ;)
stay with us again and again

tha same things you wrote, i wrote in another posts.
i dont understand why people keep on be sad..
michael in these 7 month gave us more clues.

i got it..and you? ;)

have a nice day my HOAXERS friends
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: MJLuva84 on January 26, 2010, 09:02:37 AM
This is a great post and I have been spreading the truth look up TheForerunner777 on youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/TheForerunner777 (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheForerunner777) he speaks sooooo many truths about the Illuminati and Freemasons and NWO he's very knowledgeable and you all should watch his videos. Also, I have spread this same information to some of my coworkers and have gotten them very interested. This is a great idea and we need to keep the ball rolling. MJ coming back will not make a huge impact if the majority of the world is still blind to our world's truths.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: RK on January 26, 2010, 09:05:12 AM
Someone once said to me You might not be able to change the world, but you can definately change one persons world. This same person also told me that all expressions of love are from God because God is love. It starts with our children and family members and outflows from there to our friends and neighbours and associates. It definately is time to start living the message. A revolution of kindness and love in action. What a stark contrast to what we see out there in our everyday lives.  Love you MJ.  Your conduct and character through the tough times of your life are my inspiration......LOVE and PEACE from Australia
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: SmellyJelly on January 26, 2010, 01:16:59 PM
7even....an incredible post.
You made me smile....And yeah you're right.We have to go to the next step.

7even, God bless you!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: hopi on January 26, 2010, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: "onemorechance"
the only thing I don't get why he had to "die" to spread the message or make us do it:o


To get the attention of more people?!!!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: mehere on January 26, 2010, 01:43:57 PM
OPEN YOUR EYES.... WIDE!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: topsecretgirl on January 26, 2010, 02:26:52 PM
First I do believe he's stil alive, but sorry I don't think he will come back!
They put too much effort in to make it al look for real with a memorial(with Paris speaking up), a burial , the amb. pic.
Why go through so much trouble to let everyone believe he's dead to come back after 7 months? It doesn't make sense.
Like 95% of the people believe he's dead. The general public doesn't think about him anymore. Even my own family calls me a freak :evil:  for believing this stuff. But I would be so happy if one day I could tell them 'I told you so!!!'. But I don't think thats ever gonna happen :cry: . For me this investigation will end on june 26 2010.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Iused2dream on January 26, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: Game Player
There is already sufficient enough clues for us to easily conclude he is alive. Now is the time to start spreading the message we see. The running theme of TDCAU and MJ telling us we cant depend on our government to take care of us is major. The people shouldn't be scared of the government, it should be the other way around.

Maybe Michael will come back sooner if we organize and spread the word.


Also I want to add that the new clues that come out aren't for us existing believers to solidify our belief, but for new people to catch onto and doubt if he is alive or not. Then they will come to a place like this and be exposed to all the evidence and the messages. Then they can join an existing movement that is spreading MJ's message.[/quote]

GamePlayer - the last part you wrote (in red) is the key to the next step!  We do need to take this into Phase 2 where we are spreading his messages.  I think we are wasting time looking for more clues/proof, etc.  7even is right....let's move forward with this.  If we don't we will continue our repeating process where new members join, mention the same things we've already discussed and it goes round and round.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 26, 2010, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
First I do believe he's stil alive, but sorry I don't think he will come back!
They put too much effort in to make it al look for real with a memorial(with Paris speaking up), a burial , the amb. pic.
Why go through so much trouble to let everyone believe he's dead to come back after 7 months? It doesn't make sense.
Like 95% of the people believe he's dead. The general public doesn't think about him anymore. Even my own family calls me a freak :evil:  for believing this stuff. But I would be so happy if one day I could tell them 'I told you so!!!'. But I don't think thats ever gonna happen :cry: . For me this investigation will end on june 26 2010.
I have to agree with you...
and some of you are so fake : you spread LOVE on the net but HOW ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY LIFE?!don't tell me you also "God Bless" people.Trying so hard to wipe every user's a$$ that "sounds" like MJ ...remember Michael does not like persons that act with him "with gloves" just because of him being Michael Jackson he wants real people around him people with no masks . Also, you think he will come back ? why are you so sure? like topsecret said here : he made so much effort putting his children and family in that position why would he come back? just for fun with the thriller song on? that's how you think Michael would do? that heartless you think he is? many fans cried for him so much...some still cry....
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: "bad_girl"
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative

First of I believe that you need to calm down. Yep I joined this forum 10 or 12 days ago but it doesn't mean that I'm in the hoax investigation for 12 days only. I've been in on it long enough (since August). I came here to preach? I don't get why you thought like that but it seems like you're too frustrated and negative. And I think you should focus on positive things to make you feel better. You don't need to attack others if you don't like the idea of someone. I hope you find peace :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: knowhesalive on January 26, 2010, 03:39:12 PM
Hmm i really don't know if hes coming back or not... But i know hes alive (ha ha username) and i do hope hes doing fine.. deep down inside i'm okay if hes not coming back.. He has been there for the fans for 40+ years.. So i'm okay with him taking a break for a while or maybe forever.. Only he knows...
Like Dr.Maya Angelou wrote in her poem and i qoute..

WE HAD HIM

Beloveds, now we know that we know nothing, now that our bright and shining star can slip away from our fingertips like a puff of summer wind.

Without notice, our dear love can escape our doting embrace. Sing our songs among the stars and walk our dances across the face of the moon.

In the instant that Michael is gone, we know nothing. No clocks can tell time. No oceans can rush our tides with the abrupt absence of our treasure.

Though we are many, each of us is achingly alone, piercingly alone.

Only when we confess our confusion can we remember that he was a gift to us and we did have him.

He came to us from the creator, trailing creativity in abundance.

Despite the anguish, his life was sheathed in mother love, family love, and survived and did more than that.

He thrived with passion and compassion, humor and style. We had him whether we know who he was or did not know, he was ours and we were his.

We had him, beautiful, delighting our eyes.

His hat, aslant over his brow, and took a pose on his toes for all of us.

And we laughed and stomped our feet for him.

We were enchanted with his passion because he held nothing. He gave us all he had been given.

Today in Tokyo, beneath the Eiffel Tower, in Ghana's Black Star Square.

In Johannesburg and Pittsburgh, in Birmingham, Alabama, and Birmingham, England

We are missing Michael.

But we do know we had him, and we are the world.



And if i may say Denmark is missing Michael too...
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 03:39:39 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
First I do believe he's stil alive, but sorry I don't think he will come back!
They put too much effort in to make it al look for real with a memorial(with Paris speaking up), a burial , the amb. pic.
Why go through so much trouble to let everyone believe he's dead to come back after 7 months? It doesn't make sense.
Like 95% of the people believe he's dead. The general public doesn't think about him anymore. Even my own family calls me a freak :evil:  for believing this stuff. But I would be so happy if one day I could tell them 'I told you so!!!'. But I don't think thats ever gonna happen :cry: . For me this investigation will end on june 26 2010.
I have to agree with you...
and some of you are so fake : you spread LOVE on the net but HOW ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY LIFE?!don't tell me you also "God Bless" people.Trying so hard to wipe every user's a$$ that "sounds" like MJ ...remember Michael does not like persons that act with him "with gloves" just because of him being Michael Jackson he wants real people around him people with no masks . Also, you think he will come back ? why are you so sure? like topsecret said here : he made so much effort putting his children and family in that position why would he come back? just for fun with the thriller song on? that's how you think Michael would do? that heartless you think he is? many fans cried for him so much...some still cry....

You think that he is not going to come back but if it is so, why did he leave all of the clues? To make us find out that he is alive and then go crazy because we can never ever be sure that he is alive 100% and for us to get more crazy by time and lose our minds if he is going to come back or not and keep on investigating? I think we need to think both sides. Did he leave the clues because he is never ever going to come back or left clues because he is going to come back? :) To me if he was never going to come back he would never ever leave any clues. Just hoax his death and kept on living his life with his family. The clues woke many people up and that makes everything for him harder. He knew that we were going to investigate like this and he would never ever do this torture to us. I don't believe he is not going to come back :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 26, 2010, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative

First of I believe that you need to calm down. Yep I joined this forum 10 or 12 days ago but it doesn't mean that I'm in the hoax investigation for 12 days only. I've been in on it long enough (since August). I came here to preach? I don't get why you thought like that but it seems like you're too frustrated and negative. And I think you should focus on positive things to make you feel better. You don't need to attack others if you don't like the idea of someone. I hope you find peace :)

Dear users if i talk this way if i speak my mind does not mean i am angry or frustrated : I JUST SPEAK MY MIND  :lol: and the fly is not on your hat stay calm. ;)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 03:45:48 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative

First of I believe that you need to calm down. Yep I joined this forum 10 or 12 days ago but it doesn't mean that I'm in the hoax investigation for 12 days only. I've been in on it long enough (since August). I came here to preach? I don't get why you thought like that but it seems like you're too frustrated and negative. And I think you should focus on positive things to make you feel better. You don't need to attack others if you don't like the idea of someone. I hope you find peace :)

Dear users if i talk this way if i speak my mind does not mean i am angry or frustrated : I JUST SPEAK MY MIND  :lol: and the fly is not on your hat stay calm. ;)

I'm sorry but what's this got to do with you? Are you bad_girl too at the same time? why do you answer for her?  :?
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 26, 2010, 03:47:02 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
First I do believe he's stil alive, but sorry I don't think he will come back!
They put too much effort in to make it al look for real with a memorial(with Paris speaking up), a burial , the amb. pic.
Why go through so much trouble to let everyone believe he's dead to come back after 7 months? It doesn't make sense.
Like 95% of the people believe he's dead. The general public doesn't think about him anymore. Even my own family calls me a freak :evil:  for believing this stuff. But I would be so happy if one day I could tell them 'I told you so!!!'. But I don't think thats ever gonna happen :cry: . For me this investigation will end on june 26 2010.
I have to agree with you...
and some of you are so fake : you spread LOVE on the net but HOW ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY LIFE?!don't tell me you also "God Bless" people.Trying so hard to wipe every user's a$$ that "sounds" like MJ ...remember Michael does not like persons that act with him "with gloves" just because of him being Michael Jackson he wants real people around him people with no masks . Also, you think he will come back ? why are you so sure? like topsecret said here : he made so much effort putting his children and family in that position why would he come back? just for fun with the thriller song on? that's how you think Michael would do? that heartless you think he is? many fans cried for him so much...some still cry....

You think that he is not going to come back but if it is so, why did he leave all of the clues? To make us find out that he is alive and then go crazy because we can never ever be sure that he is alive 100% and for us to get more crazy by time and lose our minds if he is going to come back or not and keep on investigating? I think we need to think both sides. Did he leave the clues because he is never ever going to come back or left clues because he is going to come back? :) To me if he was never going to come back he would never ever leave any clues. Just hoax his death and kept on living his life with his family. The clues woke many people up and that makes everything for him harder. He knew that we were going to investigate like this and he would never ever do this torture to us. I don't believe he is not going to come back :)


He left the "words"/clues as you say,NOT to come back but for YOU to change.....for all of you to change ! Michael wanted to give a final message warning that time goes by so fast we die and we left our children in pain and sadness :  we should stand up and act : help people in need help nature !
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 26, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative

First of I believe that you need to calm down. Yep I joined this forum 10 or 12 days ago but it doesn't mean that I'm in the hoax investigation for 12 days only. I've been in on it long enough (since August). I came here to preach? I don't get why you thought like that but it seems like you're too frustrated and negative. And I think you should focus on positive things to make you feel better. You don't need to attack others if you don't like the idea of someone. I hope you find peace :)

Dear users if i talk this way if i speak my mind does not mean i am angry or frustrated : I JUST SPEAK MY MIND  :lol: and the fly is not on your hat stay calm. ;)

I'm sorry but what's this got to do with you? Are you bad_girl too at the same time? why do you answer for her?  :?

:))) you really made me laugh out loud... ask her if she's me ,how about that? i speak for my part too because when we don't agree you call me or her or others frustrated..
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
First I do believe he's stil alive, but sorry I don't think he will come back!
They put too much effort in to make it al look for real with a memorial(with Paris speaking up), a burial , the amb. pic.
Why go through so much trouble to let everyone believe he's dead to come back after 7 months? It doesn't make sense.
Like 95% of the people believe he's dead. The general public doesn't think about him anymore. Even my own family calls me a freak :evil:  for believing this stuff. But I would be so happy if one day I could tell them 'I told you so!!!'. But I don't think thats ever gonna happen :cry: . For me this investigation will end on june 26 2010.
I have to agree with you...
and some of you are so fake : you spread LOVE on the net but HOW ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY LIFE?!don't tell me you also "God Bless" people.Trying so hard to wipe every user's a$$ that "sounds" like MJ ...remember Michael does not like persons that act with him "with gloves" just because of him being Michael Jackson he wants real people around him people with no masks . Also, you think he will come back ? why are you so sure? like topsecret said here : he made so much effort putting his children and family in that position why would he come back? just for fun with the thriller song on? that's how you think Michael would do? that heartless you think he is? many fans cried for him so much...some still cry....

You think that he is not going to come back but if it is so, why did he leave all of the clues? To make us find out that he is alive and then go crazy because we can never ever be sure that he is alive 100% and for us to get more crazy by time and lose our minds if he is going to come back or not and keep on investigating? I think we need to think both sides. Did he leave the clues because he is never ever going to come back or left clues because he is going to come back? :) To me if he was never going to come back he would never ever leave any clues. Just hoax his death and kept on living his life with his family. The clues woke many people up and that makes everything for him harder. He knew that we were going to investigate like this and he would never ever do this torture to us. I don't believe he is not going to come back :)


He left the "words"/clues as you say,NOT to come back but for YOU to change.....for all of you to change ! Michael wanted to give a final message warning that time goes by so fast we die and we left our children in pain and sadness :  we should stand up and act : help people in need help nature !

Michael gave those messages with his songs and with his life! I'm talking about the clues he left THAT SHOW US HE IS ALIVE like the Liberian Girl pictures and all of the others!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative

First of I believe that you need to calm down. Yep I joined this forum 10 or 12 days ago but it doesn't mean that I'm in the hoax investigation for 12 days only. I've been in on it long enough (since August). I came here to preach? I don't get why you thought like that but it seems like you're too frustrated and negative. And I think you should focus on positive things to make you feel better. You don't need to attack others if you don't like the idea of someone. I hope you find peace :)

Dear users if i talk this way if i speak my mind does not mean i am angry or frustrated : I JUST SPEAK MY MIND  :lol: and the fly is not on your hat stay calm. ;)

I'm sorry but what's this got to do with you? Are you bad_girl too at the same time? why do you answer for her?  :?

:))) you really made me laugh out loud... ask her if she's me ,how about that? i speak for my part too because when we don't agree you call me or her or others frustrated..

I don't remember I called you or others frustrated too. I ONLY called bad_girl like that. And it IS interesting that you got it for yourself hmmm  whatever  :roll:
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 26, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
First I do believe he's stil alive, but sorry I don't think he will come back!
They put too much effort in to make it al look for real with a memorial(with Paris speaking up), a burial , the amb. pic.
Why go through so much trouble to let everyone believe he's dead to come back after 7 months? It doesn't make sense.
Like 95% of the people believe he's dead. The general public doesn't think about him anymore. Even my own family calls me a freak :evil:  for believing this stuff. But I would be so happy if one day I could tell them 'I told you so!!!'. But I don't think thats ever gonna happen :cry: . For me this investigation will end on june 26 2010.
I have to agree with you...
and some of you are so fake : you spread LOVE on the net but HOW ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY LIFE?!don't tell me you also "God Bless" people.Trying so hard to wipe every user's a$$ that "sounds" like MJ ...remember Michael does not like persons that act with him "with gloves" just because of him being Michael Jackson he wants real people around him people with no masks . Also, you think he will come back ? why are you so sure? like topsecret said here : he made so much effort putting his children and family in that position why would he come back? just for fun with the thriller song on? that's how you think Michael would do? that heartless you think he is? many fans cried for him so much...some still cry....

You think that he is not going to come back but if it is so, why did he leave all of the clues? To make us find out that he is alive and then go crazy because we can never ever be sure that he is alive 100% and for us to get more crazy by time and lose our minds if he is going to come back or not and keep on investigating? I think we need to think both sides. Did he leave the clues because he is never ever going to come back or left clues because he is going to come back? :) To me if he was never going to come back he would never ever leave any clues. Just hoax his death and kept on living his life with his family. The clues woke many people up and that makes everything for him harder. He knew that we were going to investigate like this and he would never ever do this torture to us. I don't believe he is not going to come back :)


He left the "words"/clues as you say,NOT to come back but for YOU to change.....for all of you to change ! Michael wanted to give a final message warning that time goes by so fast we die and we left our children in pain and sadness :  we should stand up and act : help people in need help nature !

Michael gave those messages with his songs and with his life! I'm talking about the clues he left THAT SHOW US HE IS ALIVE like the Liberian Girl pictures and all of the others!

"I'm watching you" that's the message.okay "might" ;)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 26, 2010, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
no offense taken... but yeah MJ himself on tv saying "i'm alive and here forever" would sure beat any tom, dick or harry claiming to be in the know... any of these people have yet to show any kind of irrefutable proof as to what they know... i'm talking about TIAI, JCC, BOW, and all the rest who seemed to have you all twisted around their little finger and following them blindly until the next disappointment!! you yourself have been here for less than 12 days and you come here to preach??? the OP JOINED TODAY!!!! and for crissake STOP saying thaty we haven't read it, because we have I assure you and more than once and i REPEAT not everyone believes in the friggin' bible and any chapter or verse can be taken from it and fitted into anykind of theory!! so if that's being negative then ok yeah i'm being negative

First of I believe that you need to calm down. Yep I joined this forum 10 or 12 days ago but it doesn't mean that I'm in the hoax investigation for 12 days only. I've been in on it long enough (since August). I came here to preach? I don't get why you thought like that but it seems like you're too frustrated and negative. And I think you should focus on positive things to make you feel better. You don't need to attack others if you don't like the idea of someone. I hope you find peace :)

Dear users if i talk this way if i speak my mind does not mean i am angry or frustrated : I JUST SPEAK MY MIND  :lol: and the fly is not on your hat stay calm. ;)

I'm sorry but what's this got to do with you? Are you bad_girl too at the same time? why do you answer for her?  :?

:))) you really made me laugh out loud... ask her if she's me ,how about that? i speak for my part too because when we don't agree you call me or her or others frustrated..

I don't remember I called you or others frustrated too. I ONLY called bad_girl like that. And it IS interesting that you got it for yourself hmmm  whatever  :roll:
"you" "call" in general...not you especially,users like you let's say.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 26, 2010, 04:08:03 PM
Stop arguing and stay on topic, or I will have to lock this.

Come on people, we are all mature here.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: mordor on January 26, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
Great post 7even!!
You all are so wonderful!!No worries about the rest of the world,they will find out the truth about this hoax and NWO very soon..We definitely should spreed this messages!!But not to make ppl worried,thats what makes us weak..Its good to know that but also is important to say that we have the power to stop all this madness.With L.O.V.E.peace in our mind,positiv thinking,with finding the happines in ourselves and with the conection with the nature.
We love you Michael and we will do it!Thank you for  everything!!!You are the greatest teacher we could ever have!!!We ll be by your side forever.
Love mordor xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  ;)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: lilith on January 26, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
That discussion here is really interesting. And I want to speak my mind as well.

I love Michael. Love him from the first time I really saw him and no matter what I will not stop loving him. I believe Michael is still alive - doubts come and go. Each doubt hurts deep inside my stomach, there where usually the butterflies are dancing when I think of Michael. I think the clues and hints (Dave Dave, Gilda, Spider, ...) are overwhelming:
Michael is alive!

I am not as convinced with TIAI. I'm sorry! I did read it all and probably it is Michael's message. I'm not convinced, but I would not dismiss it. It is very possible imo that it is indeed what Michael tries to tell us. BUT though I love, respect, adore Michael there are things I do not share his opinion.

There was a time I studied DtD. I really delved into it and I found interesting things and I found out that Michael is a genius. What he does is complex, enigmatic and profound. I studied Deepak Chopra and became a fan of his - I still am a Chopra fan. I got Michael's message back then.

When I read in Rabbi Boteach's book that Michael does not believe in the Big Bang and that he does believe in Creationalism, I got lost. Yes I know Michael is Jehova's Witness and even though he might not be a regular member of that church, in his heart he still is, he said that himself. But that does not mean that I occupy that faith for myself.

I do listen and I am open for opinions and I respect them - but only because I love a person ... I don't know what to say ... I am just not convinced.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Infinitylady on January 26, 2010, 04:33:23 PM
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MJLuva84 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:02 pm

This is a great post and I have been spreading the truth look up TheForerunner777 on youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/TheForerunner777 (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheForerunner777) he speaks sooooo many truths about the Illuminati and Freemasons and NWO he's very knowledgeable and you all should watch his videos. Also, I have spread this same information to some of my coworkers and have gotten them very interested. This is a great idea and we need to keep the ball rolling. MJ coming back will not make a huge impact if the majority of the world is still blind to our world's truths.

Yes, the Forerunner777 has some good profound messages. I posted his links here a few times. Very interesting topics that he has.  I like his boldness on speaking on topics relating it to what is ahead in these end times.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: superflysister81 on January 26, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
this is a GREAT post and I couldn't agree more...
It's up to us,we MUST open our eyes and spread the word...
In these technologic times we can take advantage of many information on the web...So please, Read, watch videos, become aware and tell others! Let's see all that surrounds us with open eyes...I really believe together we can MAKE A CHANGE and fight such a horrible reality...Let's do it for us, for the world WE live in.
Michael is so alive...and we are in his Army of L.O.V.E.So..ok, let's fight people!Let's go to step 2!  ;)
God bless
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Stop arguing and stay on topic, or I will have to lock this.

Come on people, we are all mature here.

I'm NOT the one who is arguing. I'm sure you're aware of it Souza ;) I want everyone to focus on the message too :)

Seven's message is a good reminder to us about what we need to do.  :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on January 26, 2010, 05:35:57 PM
i keep hearing everyone saying we need to spread michaels message. i want to know who are we going to spread it to? i mean the believers already know the message and the non-believers dont want to hear the message because they think we believers are crazy. so have you guys ever stopped to think for a second that the only way the non-believers are going to listen is when michael does come back. so when michael comes back and the non-believers need to get caught up to speed on whats happened and why he did this then thats when us believers step in to school the non-believer. imo i feel like that is how we the believers are suppose to spread michaels message and again this can only happen when he returns.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
i keep hearing everyone saying we need to spread michaels message. i want to know who are we going to spread it to? i mean the believers already know the message and the non-believers dont want to hear the message because they think we believers are crazy. so have you guys ever stopped to think for a second that the only way the non-believers are going to listen is when michael does come back. so when michael comes back and the non-believers need to get caught up to speed on whats happened and why he did this then thats when us believers step in to school the non-believer. imo i feel like that is how we the believers are suppose to spread michaels message and again this can only happen when he returns.

Nobody told us to spread the message to non-belivers. And what do you think the message is btw? We're NOT talking about spreading Michael is alive. We're talking about the media trash and NWO and illuminati stuff. And the message needs to be told to the ones you know around.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on January 26, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
forgive you but i wish that you would reread what i said.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
forgive you but i wish that you would reread what i said.

hon you'd better read what 7even wrote and what I wrote once more. I read what you wrote and that was a reply to your post :) To spread the message has nothing to do with the non-believers and to make them believe that Michael is alive. That's what I'm saying. You asked who we are going to tell the message and how non-believers would behave us. And I wrote the answer to you.

And on the other hand of course spreading the message will be much more easier after Michael comes back but we can start spreading it right now.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: NEFFERTEAREYA on January 26, 2010, 08:57:20 PM
a big thank you to 7even.michael's message is very important. people hate to see me coming because i will start talking about healing the world at any given time. i am very hard on them about recycling and pollution. i warn them against eating certain foods,as i believe they are putting poisons/carcinogens into alot of the food.

i try to avoid fast food at all costs,especially mcdonald's.

people,do be careful what you put into your bodies.

try to become a vegan. i'm currently a vegetarian working on becoming a vegan.

stop killing the animals just so you can have a burger,it's not right.

recycle....recycle....recycle!

i tell these words to ALL my friends and family and i even have a messgae on my myspace page. please people,we must do this for michael.
thanks.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Magic Tricks on January 26, 2010, 09:03:20 PM
:D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
THANKS!!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 26, 2010, 10:05:13 PM
Quote from: "onemorechance"
the only thing I don't get why he had to "die" to spread the message or make us do it:o

How many years did Michael stand before the world pleading his case through music, dance, video, poem, speech, and action. Did we REALLY listen? No. It required a sudden shock in order to bring us back from a state of eternal hypnosis.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ghepardo on January 27, 2010, 03:36:48 AM
And then we had This Is It which contains more clues that he is alive. And then Michael sent This Is Also It to make us understand why he did this! If you think that TIAI is a waste of time or full of crap, I’m sorry my friend but that means that YOU GOT NOTHING about why Michael did this! And all of the inVestigation you made is a waste of time! Forget about the hoax, forget about everything we had told you, forget it all. And don’t worry because Michael will come back.

GOOD POST SEVEN !!!!

I WAS THINKING THE SAME. NOW I KNOW THAT MICHAEL IS ALIVE. I DON'T NEED OTHERS CLUES OR PROOFS ABOUT IT.
but, you know, i've been in this "hoax" since june 27 .
in seven months I have had so many different feelings: despair at the beginning, then disbelief, desire to understand, suspect.
but until now I have never experienced joy. always expect his return with the fear that this could never happen.
for this I continuing my research, although I must admit I'm a little tired.
but in my heart I know that Michael is alive and soon he'll explain me everything.
whatever happens Michael will always have my love and my support for all time.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: SmellyJelly on January 27, 2010, 03:44:20 AM
Quote from: "ghepardo"
in seven months I have had so many different feelings: despair at the beginning, then disbelief, desire to understand, suspect.
but until now I have never experienced joy. always expect his return with the fear that this could never happen.
for this I continuing my research, although I must admit I'm a little tired.
but in my heart I know that Michael is alive and soon he'll explain me everything.
whatever happens Michael will always have my love and my support for all time.

I feel the same. :D  :D
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ralu on January 27, 2010, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: "sanmike"
Ralu said
"Ok what are we doing in order to spread the message? In the first place we should only spread that part of the message in which we believe, that part of the message that allows no space for “What if?”. “What if?” means confusion and in the end it means fear. People are afraid of being confused. And all of a sudden, the whole MJ message resumes to NWO and Illuminati?"

Dear Ralu, great post!
Yes, we should spread the message that we understand. Michael's message means LOVE for me.
If a person is doing everything with love, then he/she could not do something wrong. Then, I suppose he/she could not be driven by money in what is doing. Then, with love you could contribute to a better world.
Maybe there are many times when we like to put the blame on secret societies for the wrong course of our lives. But, instead, we should try to see what are we doing, as individuals, to make a better world for us and our children?
Sometimes, to make a change in a society, there is a need for a man who could influence others, but he has to make a sacrifice. Maybe this man is Michael, and maybe that is the motive for he choose to "die". Maybe this was the only way he could make people pay attention to his words.
Much LOVE to you all.

Thank you Sanmike, I appreciate your support. You really understand where I'm comming from  :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 27, 2010, 08:55:28 PM
Thank you, brilliant post.

I have been spreading the truth and I will continue! MICHAEL LIVES. :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Hoaxornot on January 27, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
Ok I am awake
Yes spreading love and peace is great and we should all do it
But sorry I haven't seen any clues or facts that Michael is alive
I am in the film industry and so many things you see as "Clues" can be explained easily...
I wished Michael was alive, i truely do
But I haven't seen anything concrete
Why would Michael fake his death...and  gives us clues?
If he had to fake his death, he would have been in real danger ... you just don't fake your death for his fans to finally understand his messages of peace and love.
So if he was in danger and is under protection, he will never come back...
The only thing left is that Michael really passed away by accident because of a stupid doctor or Murdered. Michael was always afraid of being killed because he was worth so much money..
I am starting to believe that all this was a murder plot... Look at how he is making money and whos is pocketing?
If he really died... I feel horrible for the family and how we have accused them and trashed them
Can somebody give me a list of CONCRETE EVIDENCE? no theories
Sorry but iam tired of those Hoax videos that don't mean anything... Maybe we just could not deal with his death.. I know I could not and that is why I came to this board
But if he really passed it is time to honor his memory
I do not want to put anybody down.. But I have also been on an emotional rollercoaster

But yes the message that Michael would want us to spread is to Heal the world and spread love
L.O.V.E to all of you
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Alexa_Jackson on January 27, 2010, 10:23:11 PM
This post is SO full of truth, I have NEVER doubted that Michael is ALIVE and that he hoaxed his death for a very good REASON. Besides the media and all that shit he is concerned about the planet, we must take care of the animals, plants, trees, people that surround us, we are all part of this great place called EARTH. Let's make it a better place, like Michael said, it's on us. Nobody can do that for us. Let's stop hurting each other and trying to ignore world hunger and people who suffer, they are one of us and we must give them a helping hand. The change starts with all the men and women in the mirror... so let's join to the Army of L.O.V.E. and spread the word... Michael, you are such a genius, let's prove the media how fu*king wrong they are... JUST BEACAUSE YOU READ IT ON A MAGAZZINE OR SEE IT ON THE T.V. SCREEN DON'T MAKE IF FACTUAL!!!!!!!!!! very wise words, let's keep that in mind, may God bless you all!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: misha86 on January 27, 2010, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: "bad_girl"
you know what???? put your money where your mouth is and maybe, just maybe we can believe you (there have been so many like you claiming to know all) either prove it or for me you belong in the list of trolls and fakes, no offense meant, just that i'm so damn sorry to see the more gullible members on this forum being taken for a ride again...
Why does it matter who is it? By the actions of everyone involved in the hoax im pretty sure he is ok AND everything he is saying is right, rather if he knows mike or not. We al know mike is not dead so lets focus on why he would possibly fake his death and place all these clues out here and expose us to this information. It obviously not for the movie or the show and mike wouldnt have had to do this to get people to see him in concert anyways so lets think outside the box for a change and see what the big picture is


Quote
there is nothing wrong with searching for the truth until we are given something that would allow us to stop searching. and there you go again, accusing people of not having read TIAI... let me tell you something, not everybody gets the meaning of it, does it mean they're stupid??

I dont understand how someone doesnt get it. It is written in plain english and in verbage that everyone can understand


Quote
no, maybe they don't believe in illuminati or nwo or maybe  they don't believe in the bible...so again, either explain better, prove what you're saying with some mind blowing PROOF not theory and then yeah maybe some will be ready to BELIEVE in...
oh yeah, i almost forgot... it's all for L.O.V.E

you dont have to believe in the bible to connect what is being said to the situation, again think outside the box and stop taking everything at face value. I dont understand how anyone could think that the illumnati or NWO is fake when Rockerfeller and president bush admited that they were working towards a new world order? The fake that most people dont think they are real is the reason why they run the everything and we control nothing. TIAI actually did post facts and souza and mo posted a "mind blowing" therory with alot of evidence for there Mk ultra post. What they posted doesnt start and stop with mike ...lol and let me guess your not going to believe anything unless mike says it himself? well actually he has been saying these things for many years just not in these words and he will probaly never say any of this on tv because, 1( they run the media and wouldnt allow it 2(they would kill him and his whole family hints him using the world wide web to spread the message to people who "think outside" the box and didnt buy into the hoax anyways, thats why we are here right? what if that was mike who posted this thread? what if he posted on all the sites and he has personally told us or personally has people to join the sites to spread the message? did you ever think of that? how else does TMZ know everything or alot of the clues come true? if we can agree mike is alive we can agree there is minimal information that is out there that he doesnt want us to know.

p.s. if you REALLY want to know how the illuminti works and/or how it applies to mike i know some great sites and articles and i would be more than happy to help you understand. I am no exspert BUT this is very important to humanity and our lives and we should look into it before it is too late. this is serious stuff and everyone should be aware before its 2 late
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on January 27, 2010, 11:57:51 PM
Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
you know what???? put your money where your mouth is and maybe, just maybe we can believe you (there have been so many like you claiming to know all) either prove it or for me you belong in the list of trolls and fakes, no offense meant, just that i'm so damn sorry to see the more gullible members on this forum being taken for a ride again...
Why does it matter who is it? By the actions of everyone involved in the hoax im pretty sure he is ok AND everything he is saying is right, rather if he knows mike or not. We al know mike is not dead so lets focus on why he would possibly fake his death and place all these clues out here and expose us to this information. It obviously not for the movie or the show and mike wouldnt have had to do this to get people to see him in concert anyways so lets think outside the box for a change and see what the big picture is


Quote
there is nothing wrong with searching for the truth until we are given something that would allow us to stop searching. and there you go again, accusing people of not having read TIAI... let me tell you something, not everybody gets the meaning of it, does it mean they're stupid??

I dont understand how someone doesnt get it. It is written in plain english and in verbage that everyone can understand


Quote
no, maybe they don't believe in illuminati or nwo or maybe  they don't believe in the bible...so again, either explain better, prove what you're saying with some mind blowing PROOF not theory and then yeah maybe some will be ready to BELIEVE in...
oh yeah, i almost forgot... it's all for L.O.V.E

you dont have to believe in the bible to connect what is being said to the situation, again think outside the box and stop taking everything at face value. I dont understand how anyone could think that the illumnati or NWO is fake when Rockerfeller and president bush admited that they were working towards a new world order? The fake that most people dont think they are real is the reason why they run the everything and we control nothing. TIAI actually did post facts and souza and mo posted a "mind blowing" therory with alot of evidence for there Mk ultra post. What they posted doesnt start and stop with mike ...lol and let me guess your not going to believe anything unless mike says it himself? well actually he has been saying these things for many years just not in these words and he will probaly never say any of this on tv because, 1( they run the media and wouldnt allow it 2(they would kill him and his whole family hints him using the world wide web to spread the message to people who "think outside" the box and didnt buy into the hoax anyways, thats why we are here right? what if that was mike who posted this thread? what if he posted on all the sites and he has personally told us or personally has people to join the sites to spread the message? did you ever think of that? how else does TMZ know everything or alot of the clues come true? if we can agree mike is alive we can agree there is minimal information that is out there that he doesnt want us to know.

p.s. if you REALLY want to know how the illuminti works and/or how it applies to mike i know some great sites and articles and i would be more than happy to help you understand. I am no exspert BUT this is very important to humanity and our lives and we should look into it before it is too late. this is serious stuff and everyone should be aware before its 2 late


I want to say BRAVO to you. I couldn't say it any better hon. Perfectly said! ;)

Maybe these videos can help you to understand how serious the situation is. Watch them all pls.

[youtube:2vzfelzf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKouvt2sOVY[/youtube:2vzfelzf]
[youtube:2vzfelzf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-A5fBBFIRE[/youtube:2vzfelzf]
[youtube:2vzfelzf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsiGLxT9mg&translated=1[/youtube:2vzfelzf]
[youtube:2vzfelzf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7oLr7rBCo&feature=related[/youtube:2vzfelzf]
[youtube:2vzfelzf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89SB59DT34&feature=related[/youtube:2vzfelzf]
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ralu on January 28, 2010, 02:07:27 AM
Quote from: "Hoaxornot"
Ok I am awake
Yes spreading love and peace is great and we should all do it
But sorry I haven't seen any clues or facts that Michael is alive
I am in the film industry and so many things you see as "Clues" can be explained easily...
I wished Michael was alive, i truely do
But I haven't seen anything concrete
Why would Michael fake his death...and  gives us clues?
If he had to fake his death, he would have been in real danger ... you just don't fake your death for his fans to finally understand his messages of peace and love.
So if he was in danger and is under protection, he will never come back...
The only thing left is that Michael really passed away by accident because of a stupid doctor or Murdered. Michael was always afraid of being killed because he was worth so much money..
I am starting to believe that all this was a murder plot... Look at how he is making money and whos is pocketing?
If he really died... I feel horrible for the family and how we have accused them and trashed them
Can somebody give me a list of CONCRETE EVIDENCE? no theories
Sorry but iam tired of those Hoax videos that don't mean anything... Maybe we just could not deal with his death.. I know I could not and that is why I came to this board
But if he really passed it is time to honor his memory
I do not want to put anybody down.. But I have also been on an emotional rollercoaster

But yes the message that Michael would want us to spread is to Heal the world and spread love
L.O.V.E to all of you

Well, if we would have had some CONCRETE EVIDENCE about it, this would have been a closed case now...and maybe we would have foccus only on the message or we would have argue about the real purpose of the hoax.

For me the most powerful evidence is the family which is coping much to fine with his death. Children are fine and even happy, Janet (which I would have expected to be the most hurted) can't hold her smile talking about his loss in the interview. They all speak on present tense about him. Then the fact that Murray is free to work again and he's not yet arrested after he admited he administrated a drug he was not allowd to (because he was not an anestheologist and he was not in a hospital)...that speaks volumes to me. The fact that they kept the "body" for TWO monts before burring it  :shock:  and that no official person made an official statement about his death. Then, I suppose you saw the series "The death of a moonwalker" from you tube (by White Tigger) which is the incontestable proove that the ambulance video was "hollywood made". I don't wana mention the ambulance photo which is a bad joke. Of course, analizing all these facts separately, you could say that is a coincidence, or it can be explained one way or another...but the fact that they are happening all together, in the same time, related to the same case, the fact that nobody (family or objective media or police) explained these strange facts, but moreover they seam keen to play and to make jokes about them makes me think that this is more than a sad accident or a murder. And from all these the one that comfort me the most is the JOY of the family. I am not rady to believe that they might act like that on purpose, in order to make money on their brother's/father's/son's death. That was only my oppinion. Hugs and...what ever happens this is a wonderfull experience and each of us could remain with a very good lesson learned from this adventure, wich could help us for the rest of our lifes. All the best!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bad_girl on January 28, 2010, 02:44:34 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "bad_girl"
...
Why does it matter who is it? By the actions of everyone involved in the hoax im pretty sure he is ok AND everything he is saying is right, rather if he knows mike or not. We al know mike is not dead so lets focus on why he would possibly fake his death and place all these clues out here and expose us to this information. It obviously not for the movie or the show and mike wouldnt have had to do this to get people to see him in concert anyways so lets think outside the box for a change and see what the big picture is


Quote
there is nothing wrong with searching for the truth until we are given something that would allow us to stop searching. and there you go again, accusing people of not having read TIAI... let me tell you something, not everybody gets the meaning of it, does it mean they're stupid??

I dont understand how someone doesnt get it. It is written in plain english and in verbage that everyone can understand
Quote
no, maybe they don't believe in illuminati or nwo or maybe  they don't believe in the bible...so again, either explain better, prove what you're saying with some mind blowing PROOF not theory and then yeah maybe some will be ready to BELIEVE in...
oh yeah, i almost forgot... it's all for L.O.V.E

you dont have to believe in the bible to connect what is being said to the situation, again think outside the box and stop taking everything at face value. I dont understand how anyone could think that the illumnati or NWO is fake when Rockerfeller and president bush admited that they were working towards a new world order? The fake that most people dont think they are real is the reason why they run the everything and we control nothing. TIAI actually did post facts and souza and mo posted a "mind blowing" therory with alot of evidence for there Mk ultra post. What they posted doesnt start and stop with mike ...lol and let me guess your not going to believe anything unless mike says it himself? well actually he has been saying these things for many years just not in these words and he will probaly never say any of this on tv because, 1( they run the media and wouldnt allow it 2(they would kill him and his whole family hints him using the world wide web to spread the message to people who "think outside" the box and didnt buy into the hoax anyways, thats why we are here right? what if that was mike who posted this thread? what if he posted on all the sites and he has personally told us or personally has people to join the sites to spread the message? did you ever think of that? how else does TMZ know everything or alot of the clues come true? if we can agree mike is alive we can agree there is minimal information that is out there that he doesnt want us to know.

p.s. if you REALLY want to know how the illuminti works and/or how it applies to mike i know some great sites and articles and i would be more than happy to help you understand. I am no exspert BUT this is very important to humanity and our lives and we should look into it before it is too late. this is serious stuff and everyone should be aware before its 2 late





let me say first of all, and i think even the youngest on here would understand THAT ENGLISH  IS NOT THE FIRST LANGUAGE FOR SOME ON HERE....
second.... you are asking people not only to look outside the box, but YOU ARE PRACTICALLY TELLING THEM TO LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE and nothing else....
AND LAST OF ALL, IF THIS NWO CRAP WERE TOO, DO YOU HONESTLY THINK MJ WOULD BE LEAVING CLUES TO A FEW THOUSAND FANS AND IN DOING SO HE'D BE SAYING "F*** YOU" TO ALL THESE INSTITUTIONS???? please, get real.
i really don't know if MJ is alive, i really don't know if he is dead... i can only hope that he is indeed live and well and that one day he will tell his story and debunk himself any or every theory that has been put forth on this board, no matter which one, and until that day i think every theory remains just a theory...
for all we know MJ is sick of all the crap and just decided that he wanted out, nothing more to it. or he could be really gone at the hands of a doctor who was money-hungry.... so many possibilities...
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ralu on January 28, 2010, 02:54:16 AM
Can anyone explain me how do you see the result of spreading the word about NWO and Illuminati? I mean ok, let's suppose every single person acknowledges this ... let's say reality. Then what good thing happens? To be honest IDK anybody who didn't hear about NWO. As I told you, the world is full of negative fillings and frustrations and I can't find any benefit from this.

Do you know how I see this playing the movie fast forward? The people go crazy alaround the world thinking about them being controlled and manipulated and used, being afraid of the ocult power of these organisation. They will become to se NWO and Illuminati alaround them. Fear and confusion will make them violent and they will start fights, these fights will become revolutions and this will provide the perfect reason for a new global war,which will allow the depopulation they want so badly. Of course this is a movie script but is it unrealistic, supposing the fact that we are going to spread the word ?

What if insted of this scenario, people will become more sensitive, will foccus on each others' needs, will stop being offensive with eachother and follow the rules of comon sense and humanity. What if they will refuse to respond with violence to the violent attacs, what if when somebody raises his voice they will choose to remain calm and nice until they will win the battle. You cannot imagine how powerful and how rewarding the weapon of kindness and love can be. But I agree it is very difficult to use it. It is much much easier to let yourself controlled by rage, pride, hate and violence, because this is what we see alaround us...it is more comfortable. You agree with me or not, only by reversing this habits we have a chance to heal the world. And by spreading fear and confusion and hate we are not going in the right direction.

Please, when you are done with NWO vids and articles take a look to this link too...maybe you will see the light I'm referring to:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/ (http://www.thevenusproject.com/)

With LOVE.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: mjisthemuses on January 28, 2010, 03:35:20 AM
@7even

whoever you are, just want to tell you, I've woken up since months ago!
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: sanmike on January 28, 2010, 05:04:17 AM
Quote from: "ralu"
Can anyone explain me how do you see the result of spreading the word about NWO and Illuminati? I mean ok, let's suppose every single person acknowledges this ... let's say reality. Then what good thing happens? To be honest IDK anybody who didn't hear about NWO. As I told you, the world is full of negative fillings and frustrations and I can't find any benefit from this.

Do you know how I see this playing the movie fast forward? The people go crazy alaround the world thinking about them being controlled and manipulated and used, being afraid of the ocult power of these organisation. They will become to se NWO and Illuminati alaround them. Fear and confusion will make them violent and they will start fights, these fights will become revolutions and this will provide the perfect reason for a new global war,which will allow the depopulation they want so badly. Of course this is a movie script but is it unrealistic, supposing the fact that we are going to spread the word ?

What if insted of this scenario, people will become more sensitive, will foccus on each others' needs, will stop being offensive with eachother and follow the rules of comon sense and humanity. What if they will refuse to respond with violence to the violent attacs, what if when somebody raises his voice they will choose to remain calm and nice until they will win the battle. You cannot imagine how powerful and how rewarding the weapon of kindness and love can be. But I agree it is very difficult to use it. It is much much easier to let yourself controlled by rage, pride, hate and violence, because this is what we see alaround us...it is more comfortable. You agree with me or not, only by reversing this habits we have a chance to heal the world. And by spreading fear and confusion and hate we are not going in the right direction.

Please, when you are done with NWO vids and articles take a look to this link too...maybe you will see the light I'm referring to:
http://www.thevenusproject.com/ (http://www.thevenusproject.com/)

With LOVE.

I agree with you, Ralu.
I think Michael's message is LOVE and HEAL THE WORLD.
It is very clear from his songs, speeches, films.
Much love to you.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Hopeless on January 28, 2010, 06:15:41 AM
I am very interesting to understand all the messages...i wake me up long before Michael's "death".
Sometimes i wish i never have seen that because i know that so long i live i never be able to forget and close the eyes. I know me....it will be a part of my live, now more then ever !
But for all the people who never heard about Illuminati and WNO and all the connections, they need time to think about it. They had there lifes, there work....
When i see how long Michael try's to give clues to the world....he is so long comfort with all this....it's a prozess and needs time.
I like now to send some good and first easy to understand videos to friends....have a look...then we have something to talk about and go deeper.
There are several books about it....it's a chance too, because they can take it when they have the time and when they want to see...when we meet our friends we are often to busy or tired .
Michael himself can't talk about that , it is absolut too dangerous for him.
His "death" was the first step to start this project going on...to wake up the ppl and when he comes back , the last people wakes up....because then they don't beleave in the media and the ball keep on rolling.
What we are doing with all this is in our hands...Michael lead us the way....but we must walk .
He tried it for so much years...
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: mehere on January 28, 2010, 06:25:56 AM
Did we wake up?  You're assuming we've been asleep at the wheel.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Kuki on January 28, 2010, 06:37:01 AM
With every step that I take these days, with every thing that I do or say, I keep myself ONE thing in mind:

I'm startin' with the man in the mirror

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ralu on January 28, 2010, 07:47:44 AM
Just an example from Project Venus FAQ:

In a system where everything is available without a price tag, would this eliminate incentive?

The free-enterprise system does create incentive to achieve, however it also breeds the incentive for corruption, theft, and greed. Our aim is to encourage a new incentive system, one no longer directed toward the shallow and self-centered goals of wealth, property, and power. Today, financial barriers place enormous limitations on innovation, individual creativity, and personal incentive. In The Venus Project, money would not be required to help one achieve or create, as facilities would be made available to serve everyone's needs.

We do advocate that all people have access to all goods and services, medical care, education, shelter, food and so forth.

It is not enough to provide the necessities of life alone. We feel that our proposals will generate a new incentive system. Human beings need challenges in order to evolve intellectually and maintain a high level of curiosity and a need to overcome shortages. The type of education that we advocate is the intelligent use of existing resources and the protection of the environment.

The shameful thing about the free enterprise system is the wasted lives of many people - young girls standing behind counters in department stores waiting for a sale, men and woman working in industrial plants using a small part of their mental capabilities. In the schools of tomorrow people will learn how to relate to others intelligently, cooperate and share ideas to help make the world a far better place, and not to squander resources in wars and military expenditures.

If you fail to grasp the significance consider this: when the states joined together the militias disappeared at the borders and Americans were free of territorial disputes. This same process can be applied globally where all science and technology are utilized for the benefit of all of Earth's inhabitants.

These concepts are based upon years of cumulative data. If we fail to do our own thinking and conform to established social institutions, others will do our thinking for us. I also believe in the incentive system but not the shallow, self-centered incentives perpetuated by our monetary-based institutions.

The question "why are we here?" is a philosophical question which has no reference. Attempts have been made by theologians to answer this. Our answer is that we are here as a by-product of evolution. The scientific response is not a question of "why are we here," it is "what are the processes that generate different life forms." We also go into this in the book The Best That Money Can't Buy, by Jacque Fresco, above on page 19 in the chapter "From Superstition To Science."

You have been brought up to believe people are inspired by rewards or money.

In essence all of the people we have admired in the past, Michael Angelo, da Vinci, Bell, the Wright Brothers, Darwin, and many others worked because they were interested in problem solving, not financial gain. This in some cases was a by-product. Usually money-oriented people become business men, or stock brokers; they are rarely creative. I have always felt threatened by people whose sole motivation is financial gain. On islands in the South Pacific, people had more than enough resources. Although banana, coconuts, fish and breadfruit were abundant, the natives worked continuously building navigation equipment, canoes, huts, and weaved cloth. Although no money was used, their incentive improved their standard of living.

In the early days in America a man and wife could build a log cabin in several months. Today it takes 30 years or so to pay off a house with the additional funds to bankers and others that actually have nothing to do with the building of the house.

If you examine your statements carefully of people who have access to all the necessities of life you will find that many wealthy people do not eat 25 meals a day even though they have access to it and they do not stuff their environment with hundreds of musical instruments and accumulate hundreds of cars. It is not the availability of resources that is disturbing to people, it is the lack of resources that is responsible for most crimes, embezzlement, deception of all kinds, etc.

Consider this when few nations control most of the worlds resources and exploit other nations with their positions of differential advantage.

All of the technical staff and everyone else will have access to a very high standard of living; the incentive, which will propel people, is the end of war, territorial disputes, economic hardship, debt, and the basis for most crimes as they will all be eliminated. In this new society as proposed by The Venus Project, the environment in which people are raised and educated will be based upon the fundamental principles of science and the comprehensive knowledge of the interrelationship between people and the environment, which sustains all life.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: ralu on January 28, 2010, 08:02:54 AM
Now tell me, isn't this kind of stuff worthing much more to be spread instead ? They are also millitating for unmasking the crimes and the government conspiracies, but they came with a wonderful project, the offered a response, an alternative, a ray of hope. And guess what? We can find there all the values for which MJ plaeded HIMSELF, with his own mouth all his life, through his music and through his speaches. Check out for yourselvs. Hugs.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: bad_girl on January 28, 2010, 08:39:17 AM
Quote from: "mehere"
Did we wake up?  You're assuming we've been asleep at the wheel.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 28, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
My thought is that Michael had big problems that's why he did it or he wants to put his kids on the stage " this is it this is their time...let me spread my white doves, my messengers"...I will just tell you that this doves can be me ..you also.*if indeed this person is MJ"
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: misha86 on January 28, 2010, 08:39:59 PM
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let me say first of all, and i think even the youngest on here would understand THAT ENGLISH  IS NOT THE FIRST LANGUAGE FOR SOME ON HERE....
second.... you are asking people not only to look outside the box, but YOU ARE PRACTICALLY TELLING THEM TO LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE and nothing else....

your write there are people on the board that doesnt not speak english and alot of them post with ease and understand....and im not saying you have to believe everything but to just say that NONE of it is possible is naive

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AND LAST OF ALL, IF THIS NWO CRAP WERE TOO, DO YOU HONESTLY THINK MJ WOULD BE LEAVING CLUES TO A FEW THOUSAND FANS AND IN DOING SO HE'D BE SAYING "F*** YOU" TO ALL THESE INSTITUTIONS???? please, get real.
how about you get real...you act like he is saying "hi im mike jackson and this is my story" who knows if he post on here and any site and if he did im sure we wouldn not know who he was and they wouldnt either and this is not the only site speaking about the nwo. more and more people are spreading the word rather is a blog site or youtube, everyone is saying F-you to them and he said F-you to them when he made "they dont really care about us"  :roll: so its not like they dont know how he feels :lol:

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i really don't know if MJ is alive, i really don't know if he is dead... i can only hope that he is indeed live and well and that one day he will tell his story and debunk himself any or every theory that has been put forth on this board, no matter which one, and until that day i think every theory remains just a theory...
for all we know MJ is sick of all the crap and just decided that he wanted out, nothing more to it. or he could be really gone at the hands of a doctor who was money-hungry.... so many possibilities...

if mike just wanted out there would be no clues,if mike was dead conrad would be in jail or pending trial. There is no way someone will go to court for child support before they go to court for murder/homicide :lol: and be able to leave the state that they are wanted in! mike could of had a quick burial and got on with life and we would have never known anything different but he didnt and you have to ask your self why. he left clues to put together a puzzle, not only to know he is alive but to know his story and i doubt he is ever going to go on tv and debunk anything. thats why there are these site to tell his true fans the real story while he can before he has to go back and play there game.Again you dont have to believe every therory  or even that it has something to do with mike but as far as the plan for a NWO that is very real and Bush,the pope and many others have went on TV and admitted this plan and have been acting on it for many many years. As a matter of fact the pope made the annoucement the day of mike memorial while everyone was focusing on mike they were plotting.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PureLove on February 08, 2010, 01:32:38 AM
Now I understand way so much better what 7even wanted to say! AGREE WITH YOU 100% 7even! VERY NICE POST once more!

@ misha86

Great post. So true! :)
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Truth_Freedom on February 08, 2010, 05:19:45 PM
Do people realize that there are folks planted on here to keep the hoax alive. Whenthings look down these random posts come up to "reignite" hope. Soes anyone catch on to this...that this is strategic??  :lol:
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Infinitylady on February 09, 2010, 01:30:06 PM
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Truth_Freedom » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:19 pm

Do people realize that there are folks planted on here to keep the hoax alive. Whenthings look down these random posts come up to "reignite" hope. Soes anyone catch on to this...that this is strategic??

so, in saying all of this, are you saying that there is no hoax? Are you saying that he is dead?  
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: Truth_Freedom on February 09, 2010, 07:13:29 PM
Not at all. But I am saying that there are people that are here to make sure that you don't change your mind.
Title: Re: DID YOU WAKE UP?!
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 09, 2010, 09:01:49 PM
Quote from: "misha86"
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let me say first of all, and i think even the youngest on here would understand THAT ENGLISH  IS NOT THE FIRST LANGUAGE FOR SOME ON HERE....
second.... you are asking people not only to look outside the box, but YOU ARE PRACTICALLY TELLING THEM TO LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE and nothing else....

your write there are people on the board that doesnt not speak english and alot of them post with ease and understand....and im not saying you have to believe everything but to just say that NONE of it is possible is naive

Quote
AND LAST OF ALL, IF THIS NWO CRAP WERE TOO, DO YOU HONESTLY THINK MJ WOULD BE LEAVING CLUES TO A FEW THOUSAND FANS AND IN DOING SO HE'D BE SAYING "F*** YOU" TO ALL THESE INSTITUTIONS???? please, get real.
how about you get real...you act like he is saying "hi im mike jackson and this is my story" who knows if he post on here and any site and if he did im sure we wouldn not know who he was and they wouldnt either and this is not the only site speaking about the nwo. more and more people are spreading the word rather is a blog site or youtube, everyone is saying F-you to them and he said F-you to them when he made "they dont really care about us"  :roll: so its not like they dont know how he feels :lol:

Quote
i really don't know if MJ is alive, i really don't know if he is dead... i can only hope that he is indeed live and well and that one day he will tell his story and debunk himself any or every theory that has been put forth on this board, no matter which one, and until that day i think every theory remains just a theory...
for all we know MJ is sick of all the crap and just decided that he wanted out, nothing more to it. or he could be really gone at the hands of a doctor who was money-hungry.... so many possibilities...

if mike just wanted out there would be no clues,if mike was dead conrad would be in jail or pending trial. There is no way someone will go to court for child support before they go to court for murder/homicide :lol: and be able to leave the state that they are wanted in! mike could of had a quick burial and got on with life and we would have never known anything different but he didnt and you have to ask your self why. he left clues to put together a puzzle, not only to know he is alive but to know his story and i doubt he is ever going to go on tv and debunk anything. thats why there are these site to tell his true fans the real story while he can before he has to go back and play there game.Again you dont have to believe every therory  or even that it has something to do with mike but as far as the plan for a NWO that is very real and Bush,the pope and many others have went on TV and admitted this plan and have been acting on it for many many years. As a matter of fact the pope made the annoucement the day of mike memorial while everyone was focusing on mike they were plotting.
I so agree with you! You're an intelligent poster and you said that well!
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