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Title: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 26, 2010, 01:35:00 PM
I got my Blu-Ray today and was watching the first part of "Staging the Return," when I noticed something interesting:

They were talking about the big 3D LED screen behind the stage. For example, in the Smooth Criminal performance of the show, it would play the video and when MJ jumped out of the window and the bullets would be coming towards the audience (in 3D), MJ would jump out the screen and begin the performance.

It really got me thinking about the Grammys on Sunday. It will feature a 3D video of Earth Song. Maybe MJ will do the same at the Grammys as he would've done for Smooth Criminal? "Staging the Return" really seems to hint at that. It also would've been the same with Thriller: The black widow would crawl towards the screen and then the thing would open up and the spider would crawl out on stage and MJ would come out of the spider and begin the performance.

Anyways, "Staging the Return" is really interesting so far. I will post more if I find anything else.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Raven on January 26, 2010, 01:39:56 PM
If he is still alive and if he would return to his old identity, I don't believe he would return on stage like that as if it all had been a big game, sorry.

TMZ just posted a little 'error' though, have a look:
http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 26, 2010, 01:42:53 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
If he is still alive and if he would return to his old identity, I don't believe he would return on stage like that as if it all had been a big game, sorry.

TMZ just posted a little 'error' though, have a look:
http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/

I don't think he'll "return" at the Grammys. Just make a little appearance, maybe to get people thinking and questioning his death...but before they can say anything, he'll be gone. At first they'd likely think it was the hologram or 3D image.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: MJsbasheret on January 26, 2010, 01:43:40 PM
I can't see him just jumping out and performing on live TV. His come back would have to include officials saying that he is indeed alive and this is why. It would be a media move. Not a live at the Grammy's move. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: steffmaster1 on January 26, 2010, 01:45:44 PM
i dont think grammys hed want to be with us the fans not random celebs and some people there who arent really fans of his nice find tho keep anything else coming its really interesting thanks!! :lol:
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Raven on January 26, 2010, 01:54:16 PM
Go and have a look at that link I posted  :lol:
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: steffmaster1 on January 26, 2010, 02:01:38 PM
yeah thats funny!! mad emy day i was bored in history and read that funny a day after 25th too we were waiting and got what we wanted!! :)
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 26, 2010, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: "steffmaster1"
i dont think grammys hed want to be with us the fans not random celebs and some people there who arent really fans of his nice find tho keep anything else coming its really interesting thanks!! :lol:

Not trying to start anything with anyone, but how do we know what MJ would or wouldn't do? I'm not necessarily saying that he WILL show up at the Grammys but we never know.

You mention him wanting to be with his fans...since they are having a big MJ tribute, A LOT of MJ fans will likely be watching, so what better thing to let his fans know he's ok? He probably won't RETURN at the Grammys, but it's entirely possible he could make an appearance, under the illusion of the 3D. And before people can question it, he's gone.

By the way, I finished both parts of "Staging the Return." It was really insightful and we really got to see A LOT more of the process they went through.

One part kind of got my interest, it's during the 2nd part (i might be wrong), and it is when they are talking about all the special effects for the concert, etc. And Kenny Ortega mentions that "Michael IS a special effect" (in reference to him putting his all into everything). But could it also be a hint?

I'm not trying to force people to see things my way, but just trying to open their eyes to the possibility that he COULD make an appearance at the Grammys.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Cameron on January 26, 2010, 04:27:13 PM
Me, I think that at the Grammy we will not see MJ, or nothing else, just Earth Song and 3D.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: dmovie27 on January 26, 2010, 05:57:04 PM
Man, I had a crazy dream last night that the grammys were on and Prince did a performance and HE reintroduced MJ and they did this huge duet thing together. Prince singing some of his songs and MJ singing some of his and they were "play battling" with each other. I was SO HAPPY to finally see this happen. it was a double whammy. MJ returning and him and Prince finally performing together. People were losing their minds with joy! Only thing was I was having trouble taping it. I kept to trying to find a tape and I was missing the show. It was like I was seeing something so special and it wasn't MEANT to be taped. Just stand a be a witness to.
Fantastic dream! Nothing to really do with topic, just thought I'd share. Hope it  can give a morale boost to everyone.
Keep the dream alive!!!
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 26, 2010, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: "dmovie27"
Man, I had a crazy dream last night that the grammys were on and Prince did a performance and HE reintroduced MJ and they did this huge duet thing together. Prince singing some of his songs and MJ singing some of his and they were "play battling" with each other. I was SO HAPPY to finally see this happen. it was a double whammy. MJ returning and him and Prince finally performing together. People were losing their minds with joy! Only thing was I was having trouble taping it. I kept to trying to find a tape and I was missing the show. It was like I was seeing something so special and it wasn't MEANT to be taped. Just stand a be a witness to.
Fantastic dream! Nothing to really do with topic, just thought I'd share. Hope it  can give a morale boost to everyone.
Keep the dream alive!!!

Thats an awesome dream! I really feel that SOMETHING will happen at the Grammys
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2010, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: "MJsbasheret"
I can't see him just jumping out and performing on live TV. His come back would have to include officials saying that he is indeed alive and this is why. It would be a media move. Not a live at the Grammy's move. Just my opinion.

Totally agrre with this one but it would be great to see him on that stage :D Imagine people's faces :D
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: nellyka7 on January 26, 2010, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
Go and have a look at that link I posted  :lol:

what exactly is the "error"?
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Magic Tricks on January 26, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "MJsbasheret"
I can't see him just jumping out and performing on live TV. His come back would have to include officials saying that he is indeed alive and this is why. It would be a media move. Not a live at the Grammy's move. Just my opinion.

Totally agrre with this one but it would be great to see him on that stage :D Imagine people's faces :D

Agree!! If Mj jumps out on the stage the people would be like  :shock:  :shock: what?!?! :shock:  :shock:  :lol:
it would be awsome if he does that! and i will cry all the show.. but i really dont think it would happen..well dreams are dreams.. ;)
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: reyferrari on January 26, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
Guys please.....this hoax implies a lot of serious things!!...MJ's comeback (if he does comeback) will be nothin linked with shows, awards, concerts or stuff like that...it has to be linked with announcment that involve FBi, LAPD, judges and even the freakin MEDIA....this is not a game, is not a show....FAKING a DEATH is more serious then that...dont get me wrong, i will love to see MJ surprising the whole world at grammys event...but is not gonna happen, sorry...is just wat i think!!!...meanwhile we still waiting!!
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 26, 2010, 10:31:49 PM
Quote from: "reyferrari"
Guys please.....this hoax implies a lot of serious things!!...MJ's comeback (if he does comeback) will be nothin linked with shows, awards, concerts or stuff like that...it has to be linked with announcment that involve FBi, LAPD, judges and even the freakin MEDIA....this is not a game, is not a show....FAKING a DEATH is more serious then that...dont get me wrong, i will love to see MJ surprising the whole world at grammys event...but is not gonna happen, sorry...is just wat i think!!!...meanwhile we still waiting!!

Everyone is taking what I said the wrong way. I DO NOT think that he will COME BACK at the Grammys. I think he will make an appearance under the illusion of it being a "hologram." And maybe, just MAYBE, he'll do something to tip off the hoax believers or even something to gauge reactions...to see how people would react.

I AM NOT saying he will COME BACK at the Grammys.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: reyferrari on January 26, 2010, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: "thecheetoman2004"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
Guys please.....this hoax implies a lot of serious things!!...MJ's comeback (if he does comeback) will be nothin linked with shows, awards, concerts or stuff like that...it has to be linked with announcment that involve FBi, LAPD, judges and even the freakin MEDIA....this is not a game, is not a show....FAKING a DEATH is more serious then that...dont get me wrong, i will love to see MJ surprising the whole world at grammys event...but is not gonna happen, sorry...is just wat i think!!!...meanwhile we still waiting!!

Everyone is taking what I said the wrong way. I DO NOT think that he will COME BACK at the Grammys. I think he will make an appearance under the illusion of it being a "hologram." And maybe, just MAYBE, he'll do something to tip off the hoax believers or even something to gauge reactions...to see how people would react.

I AM NOT saying he will COME BACK at the Grammys.

i see wat ur point is cheetoman...but my point is MJs comeback or even just   ''the throw some kind of clue process to us''   is not involved with shows or awards.....
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Ariel on January 27, 2010, 12:24:45 AM
Quote from: "thecheetoman2004"
I got my Blu-Ray today and was watching the first part of "Staging the Return," when I noticed something interesting:

They were talking about the big 3D LED screen behind the stage. For example, in the Smooth Criminal performance of the show, it would play the video and when MJ jumped out of the window and the bullets would be coming towards the audience (in 3D), MJ would jump out the screen and begin the performance.

It really got me thinking about the Grammys on Sunday. It will feature a 3D video of Earth Song. Maybe MJ will do the same at the Grammys as he would've done for Smooth Criminal? "Staging the Return" really seems to hint at that. It also would've been the same with Thriller: The black widow would crawl towards the screen and then the thing would open up and the spider would crawl out on stage and MJ would come out of the spider and begin the performance.

Anyways, "Staging the Return" is really interesting so far. I will post more if I find anything else.

Thoughts?

Sounds plausable :)
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Ariel on January 27, 2010, 12:33:19 AM
I see your point cheetoman..., but not everyone would have 3D glasses to see the effects the way they are supposed to be. Not everyone lives in the US, where people can get them for free at Target. My point is that different people would see different things and some could be able to tell the difference between real a MJ and a 3D effect.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: darkchild on January 27, 2010, 12:55:14 AM
I have my Target 3D glasses. :D  The clerk give me a whole sheet of four, 3D glasses :shock: ! So, I am ready for the Grammys.  If MJ jumps out from behind the screen :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock: .  I will screaming at the top of my lungs like a banshee! ;) I know that I would be hysterical from joy!
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 27, 2010, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: "Ariel"
I see your point cheetoman..., but not everyone would have 3D glasses to see the effects the way they are supposed to be. Not everyone lives in the US, where people can get them for free at Target. My point is that different people would see different things and some could be able to tell the difference between real a MJ and a 3D effect.

Ah, I understand what you are saying...but what if they believe he is a hologram, like many articles have been saying?
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on January 27, 2010, 11:41:27 PM
imo i still think that people are taking this thing with michael way to serious. michael has a beautiful message of love, awareness, and awakening. but he has told us and everyone that knows him personally that he likes to have fun and pull pranks. he said its an adventure. why do you think he left clues? it's just like the mystery game clue lets see who done it. its been constantly said by him and others close to him that he likes reaching in to his innerchild. i for 1 feel like this is it. he will appear at the grammys. and im not basing this on what someone else has to say im basing this on my own research. he will have the whole worlds attention. the grammys will be broadcast live on cbs television,supported on radio via westwood one worldwide,and covered online at grammy.com,cbs.com,and you tube. coverage just dont get much better than this. also the grammys will be at the staples center which according to kenny o. "that is michaels house". imo i think this is going to be another billy jean only with a much bigger effect. i dont need feedback just wanted to get this off my chest.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 28, 2010, 12:06:51 AM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
imo i still think that people are taking this thing with michael way to serious. michael has a beautiful message of love, awareness, and awakening. but he has told us and everyone that knows him personally that he likes to have fun and pull pranks. he said its an adventure. why do you think he left clues? it's just like the mystery game clue lets see who done it. its been constantly said by him and others close to him that he likes reaching in to his innerchild. i for 1 feel like this is it. he will appear at the grammys. and im not basing this on what someone else has to say im basing this on my own research. he will have the whole worlds attention. the grammys will be broadcast live on cbs television,supported on radio via westwood one worldwide,and covered online at grammy.com,cbs.com,and you tube. coverage just dont get much better than this. also the grammys will be at the staples center which according to kenny o. "that is michaels house". imo i think this is going to be another billy jean only with a much bigger effect. i dont need feedback just wanted to get this off my chest.

I know you said you don't need feedback, but I HAD to say this:

THANK YOU! I've been trying to get what I wanted to say into words...but couldn't form them.

I, too, feel that that the Grammys really COULD BE THE DAY.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: LLJ on January 28, 2010, 11:47:02 AM
I also have a feeling about the Grammy's, but am a little affraid to hope completely...but I have a feeling THIS MIGHT BE IT!!

MICHAEL, WE ARE SO READY!!
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: dragonflylilies on January 28, 2010, 01:38:33 PM
Maybe, just maybe, he will come out of the tractor with the little girl from Earth Song.  I won't be getting my hopes up, I'm just ready for this to be over with.  I don't know how much longer my heart, mind and family can take of this.
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Magic Tricks on January 28, 2010, 05:32:47 PM
Quote from: "dragonflylilies"
Maybe, just maybe, he will come out of the tractor with the little girl from Earth Song.  I won't be getting my hopes up, I'm just ready for this to be over with.  I don't know how much longer my heart, mind and family can take of this.

OMG!! :o  IF THAT HAPPENS, IT WOULD BE SO AWESOME!! Imagine Mj coming out from the center of the stage in the tractor with the girl!!!!..
i dont know if he is coming back in the grammys but i wont get all my hopes on it...

MJ COME BACK WHEN YOU ARE READY... WE ARE!!! L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: King_Michael on January 28, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
Yeah that would be cool if he came out of the tractor to save the girl, Michael likes to do the things big like in This is it he wanted to do things people never seen before, why not shock the world at the grammys nothing is impossible when it comes to Michael, I mean the guy faked his death so expect the unexpected :D
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: SoundOfCrescendo on January 29, 2010, 12:11:19 AM
Quote from: "dmovie27"
Man, I had a crazy dream last night that the grammys were on and Prince did a performance and HE reintroduced MJ and they did this huge duet thing together. Prince singing some of his songs and MJ singing some of his and they were "play battling" with each other. I was SO HAPPY to finally see this happen. it was a double whammy. MJ returning and him and Prince finally performing together. People were losing their minds with joy! Only thing was I was having trouble taping it. I kept to trying to find a tape and I was missing the show. It was like I was seeing something so special and it wasn't MEANT to be taped. Just stand a be a witness to.
Fantastic dream! Nothing to really do with topic, just thought I'd share. Hope it  can give a morale boost to everyone.
Keep the dream alive!!!
Hahah! I love it! LOL
I had a similar dream the other night. It was only Michael though, he just kinda walked out with his suitcase and took out the sweater, then the Hat, then the glove, started doing Billie Jean, and meanwhile the crowd was just silent. xP
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: SoundOfCrescendo on January 29, 2010, 12:15:03 AM
Quote from: "steffmaster1"
i dont think grammys hed want to be with us the fans not random celebs and some people there who arent really fans of his nice find tho keep anything else coming its really interesting thanks!! :lol:
Maybe that would make a better return though? Say, Celebrities will at least try to be formal and polite (They got an image to maintain xP) , while fans might do some crazy stuff. All the fans will be watching at home anyway, I know half the people in my classes are going to watch, even the ones who aren't a obsessed as I am And call me insane when I say he's alive (xP). So who knows...
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Grace on January 29, 2010, 12:19:25 AM
Quote from: "thecheetoman2004"
...but what if they believe he is a hologram, like many articles have been saying?

What is the difference of believing in a light art hologram and having made MJ a projection of our very personal needs all the time?
What is more real?
Title: Re: Something about "Staging the Return"
Post by: Jacksonology on January 29, 2010, 01:29:08 AM
Quote from: "thecheetoman2004"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
Guys please.....this hoax implies a lot of serious things!!...MJ's comeback (if he does comeback) will be nothin linked with shows, awards, concerts or stuff like that...it has to be linked with announcment that involve FBi, LAPD, judges and even the freakin MEDIA....this is not a game, is not a show....FAKING a DEATH is more serious then that...dont get me wrong, i will love to see MJ surprising the whole world at grammys event...but is not gonna happen, sorry...is just wat i think!!!...meanwhile we still waiting!!

Everyone is taking what I said the wrong way. I DO NOT think that he will COME BACK at the Grammys. I think he will make an appearance under the illusion of it being a "hologram." And maybe, just MAYBE, he'll do something to tip off the hoax believers or even something to gauge reactions...to see how people would react.

I AM NOT saying he will COME BACK at the Grammys.
i see what you're saying take a look at this POST EVERYONE. Michael jackson ON STAGE at the janet jackson VMA Tribute : viewtopic.php?f=17&t=130&start=25 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=130&start=25)
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