Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: topsecretgirl on January 30, 2010, 07:53:51 AM
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Could this be the photo usesd for the amb. pic? I found it at mjj pictures the dangerous section, comercials. The face shape,nose and ears, color of skin and even the long hair next to his ears look the same like in the famous amb. pic IMO. If someone can rotate the picture I donnu how. This is just a small pic can some one post it larger here?
Please tell me what you think!!
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab301/topsecretgirl/th_013.jpg)
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I rotated the picture in my computer and it looks exactly the same, I just dont know how to upload it..! :(
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I see the similarities too when I rotated it on my computer. we might have something here. Let the forensics on this forum get it and do their thing. I' m sure somebody here can post it in the altered state.
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What I think? The ambulance picture is genuine, not photoshopped.
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What I think? The ambulance picture is genuine, not photoshopped.
Me too. There are too many details (the tube is down his throat, the blood in the IV line) to make it fake.
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Ambulance 40% opacity:
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7294/01340.jpg)
Ambulance 60% opacity:
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6441/01360.jpg)
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9131/013par.jpg)
Everything fits except collarbone zone, ear, lock, and forehead hair (which can be photoshopped)
Anyway he is the same Michael, it´s to normal to fit himself...
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I think you really did find it this time!
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Yes it look like the good one to my too!
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Well, it definitely looks like the exact same angle...IMO...and the frown, just between his eyebrows...it's too too similar!
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But some parts seems from inclined plane point of view and don´t match.
Like ear and collarbone. If this is the picture it is not the only one used.
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Its more on the money in terms of the angle of the eyes and forehead.
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The reason why I started looking in the early pictures of Michael is because his face in the amb. pic does not look like he does nowadays. Maybe there were more pictures taken for that commercial that day then there are on that page. If you compare the pictures of the years 2006-2008 to the Dangerous era ones you definately can see that the ambo face is not recent! To me it look more from the early years. He also didn't have this hairstyle in 2009. I think they photoshopped the long hairpieces off the forehead. And who says that's his body, they could have easily photoshopped only the head or face on another one. Comone guys you really think that they can take such an excellent picture through the tinted windows of an ambulance that is also moving backwords... what are the chances? That's like winning the lottery!!
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@topsecretgirl.. you are correct because in the last few days before June 25th MJ went back to his curley hairstyle.
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I'm beginning to wonder how many pics will follow after this one...
Shamone, there are a lot of pics from him that look like the ambulance pic, just because it's Michael!
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Can you post the picture without the other picture in it, I would like to have it.
Thank you in advance.
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I'm beginning to wonder how many pics will follow after this one...
Shamone, there are a lot of pics from him that look like the ambulance pic, just because it's Michael!
i am yet to see a satisfactory match. People are still investigating and searching. thats good
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I'm beginning to wonder how many pics will follow after this one...
Shamone, there are a lot of pics from him that look like the ambulance pic, just because it's Michael!
i am yet to see a satisfactory match. People are still investigating and searching. thats good
There's nothing wrong with investigating, but we will never know for sure what picture(s) they have used. No one will tell us: Yes guys, you have found the right picture.
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This one could really be the ambulance pic.
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This one appears to be the same exact angle, it fits it so perfectly. I'm pretty sure this is it.
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ive managed to do these:
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Well, it could be.... but I really dont think it matters anymore.....
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IMO this picture fits absolutely to the ambulance picture,they seem to be tha same,only the colour of the face is different,but it's too easy to change with the help of photoshop :P ,nice job.
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Damn, that is pretty close.
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Can anyone photoshop the Dangerous pic to include the mouth thing that he has on in the ambo?
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The only thing that jumps out at me are the eyes. :?
Is it just me?
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ive managed to do these:
The 'ambo1.' pic is VERY similar. I think if you edited out the hair on his cheek you'd have the ambulance pic.
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ive managed to do these:
The 'ambo1.' pic is VERY similar. I think if you edited out the hair on his cheek you'd have the ambulance pic.
I dont know how to do that... i was hoping someone here could do that and put in the oxygen mask.. im not that technical! :D
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I think ambo1 has noooothing to do, sorry.
I fitted the other one which fits 100% the shape, including details that I saw while editing.
As I said, he is the same Michael, so it´s normal to fit himself...
Even in this case, where the angle is not the same and still fits.
(from front in the comercial one, foreshortened, from up side, in the ambulance,
look the ear in both, in the ambulance one you can see its upside).
Can it be done?
Yes
Can more of one image fit?
Yes, many.
Do we know if it´s been done, can we proove it?
No.
I could put the mask and everything and see that it fits, and still doesn´t prooves anything.
If you believe or not, may well be decided from other facts.
For me, it is a more relevant photo-proof Murray´s money at court one.
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Yes.., your pic may fit in size, but the angle of the face does not.
The ambo1 pic fits in terms of the angle of the face.
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I´m a photographer, sorry doesn´t fit, I "know" it.
Not even gesture between the eyes.
You´re in your right to "belive" so.
Anyway, as I said, doesn´t matter, one or the other.
:roll:
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I´m a photographer, sorry doesn´t fit, I "know" it.
You´re in your right to "belive" so.
Anyway, as I said, doesn´t matter, one or the other.
:roll:
Dont be offended.. i think this is the key, so this is why i believe it does matter.
If we can find the picture which matches 100 percent then we can disprove it one hundred percent.
The photo i have put is small but i believe the original may have been bigger.
Im not saying you are right or wrong.. i am trying to investigate the truth here and the fact you are a photographer is fantastic as you can bring so much knowledge to the table!
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I agree with you DancingTheDream, no offence of course, and we´re on the same boat. ;)
But what I mean is that, even if we find one that fits 100%...
We´ve already got the first one in this thread, which does fit, in the part that it would have been used. Not the size, that I fitted, but everything else. To the point that it was hard to me distinguish one from the other playing with opacity...
But we can even found more, and still doesn´t proove anything.
To me, as to many other people, photoshop is a pad where we can draw whatever...
I say this to help thinking and focus in the right direction with this photo,
so someone can come up with a good idea. Because, of course, it would be great to proove its false. You know show business, they can also rent an ambo and act it all... so...
Sorry again.
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this is something that BOW posted on 1/22/10,
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7pzQ4_694&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7pzQ4_694&feature=related) this video explains in outline how was the ambulance photo made. I repeat, this picture was shot a few days earlier, then it was photoshopped over the real photo made to the ambulance.
I've never seen any comments about it on any forum. It shows a photo from '85 in the beginning, that I believe is photoshopped, but the photo of him on the stage, being merged into the recent photo in the ambulance looks like a fit to me.
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The photo from 85´s is the fake of the fake ;)
[youtube:y2wzn6dy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkBiW1h0ecs[/youtube:y2wzn6dy]
And BoW... we don´t have a proof that she´s gospel.
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very true, we dont have BOW as gospel,, lol but nothing else is either : ) :lol: except for 7even chewin us all out for still looking for the clues to show he's alive. 8-)
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kx2qdyttsp1qz8fjho1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1264989425&Signature=a0lQig%2FNS%2BC24Wp47mtkfGMNKeQ%3D
they say this could potentially be the ambulance picture.
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This is not either... sorry.
To me it´s like playing 7 differences (sure there´s other name for this game)
Has a lot in common and the angle is of course really similar.
It´s a good base to easily edit it into what we saw although changing the ear.
But what for?
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I still haven't satisfied the why question.
Why would anyone Photoshop this pic? There was absolutely no obvious need that I can see, so can someone please tell me why this is being discussed as a Photoshop?..Thanks :)
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they look REALLY similar to me
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I believe that is good to know if we find a pic that is probably the one used for the ambulance pic..
the ambulance pic and the interview to the guy who is supposedly the owner of the pic, where the first things that made me a believer, and I'm sure that for a lot of other too.. in the interview he said that it was only one picture taken but we have seen 4 already, and is not that someone is doing photoshop just to mess with us, two are for sure different, the one in ET and the one showen in so many many other news channels.. so I believe that is great that ppl still searching and investigating, of course no one will come to tell us that is the one they used, but also no one came to say to us that Michael was alive and we still firmly believe in that.
I really really reeeaaally think that is not too hard to give some support to the ppl that still finding things, even though we think is too relevant or barely relevant for the point of the hoax in wich we are now... we are all here for the same, and we all started the same way, digging, searching, speculating, wishing, etc etc.. so for me, this is a good picture and fits even more than the other one shared in this topic (the stage one) IMO.
why photoshop? because none of us can be sure that in fact there was a Michael or a dummy in that ambulance that day, so maybe finding the photo used to create that picture of the ambulance it will be a proof that there was no body in that ambulance or just that that snap was never taken, even when there was a Michael or a dummy in the ambulance O.o IMO. ...
one more thing...even when Michael does looks like Michael (of course!), I can give you hundred of pict that wont fit at all with the ambulance picture :)
Lots of L.O.V.E!!!!
sorry for my english :)
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Wow this pic is close. Iis weird they would use such a young photo of him to try and trick people with??? Or was it done deliberately???
Also, maybe its just me or the lighting of the pics.IDK
But I've seen pics. actually quite a few of MJ at age 50 which are similiar to these attached, But yet in TII he looks 35-40ish I know that different hairstyles can knock years off a person, but this is a noticeable difference.
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But I've seen pics. actually quite a few of MJ at age 50 which are similiar to these attached, But yet in TII he looks 35-40ish I know that different hairstyles can knock years off a person, but this is a noticeable difference.
Michael doesn't look 35-40 to me in TII.
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(http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/marxz/mcs/images/013par.jpg)
Everything fits except collarbone zone, ear, lock, and forehead hair (which can be photoshopped)
Anyway he is the same Michael, it´s to normal to fit himself...
Wow! It reallt looks like the ambulance pic :shock:
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But I've seen pics. actually quite a few of MJ at age 50 which are similiar to these attached, But yet in TII he looks 35-40ish I know that different hairstyles can knock years off a person, but this is a noticeable difference.
Michael doesn't look 35-40 to me in TII.
MJ has always looked much younger that he actually is, from the time he first started performing. But compared to the 50 year old pics. that I posted, there is a big difference in age appearance compared to TII. Although I noticed also in TII there aren't any real facial close ups of him.
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But I've seen pics. actually quite a few of MJ at age 50 which are similiar to these attached, But yet in TII he looks 35-40ish I know that different hairstyles can knock years off a person, but this is a noticeable difference.
Michael doesn't look 35-40 to me in TII.
MJ has always looked much younger that he actually is, from the time he first started performing. But compared to the 50 year old pics. that I posted, there is a big difference in age appearance compared to TII. Although I noticed also in TII there aren't any real facial close ups of him.
yeap, in fact they doesn't show him so close, and even when I believe he doesn't look like 50, either i do believe he looks like 35, but you are right, he look younger.
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MJ has always looked much younger than he really is take for example that BAD tour that he was like 27 but looked like a 18 year old. And IMO in TII he doesn't look like a 50 year old, maybe 45 and even less. And that picture is really close to the amb picture, even the frown, because I've found very strange that the paramedics say that he was already dead in the ambulance, but how can a dead person frown like that?
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This pic is most likely the pic used for the ambulance pic. It's so close it's scary.
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Could this be the photo usesd for the amb. pic? I found it at mjj pictures the dangerous section, comercials. The face shape,nose and ears, color of skin and even the long hair next to his ears look the same like in the famous amb. pic IMO. If someone can rotate the picture I donnu how. This is just a small pic can some one post it larger here?
Please tell me what you think!!
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab301/topsecretgirl/th_013.jpg)
lovely pic of mj.
think it near enough
but the ear line and colour is different