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Title: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: mirandacnc on February 04, 2010, 08:16:49 PM
JERMAINE JACKSON: FAMILY SEEKS 'SWIFT JUSTICE FOR OUR BROTHER'

Copyright 2009 Gareth Cattermole / Getty Images
   
Jermaine Jackson speaks out about the charges that Dr. Conrad Murray is reportedly anticipating related to the death of Michael Jackson.
"I'm not happy that it has taken this long for charges to be brought against 'anybody' in the death of my brother Michael Jackson, but I'm certainly pleased the time has arrived," Jermaine tells ET. "It is a painful and difficult time for my family, but we are strong and united in making sure we find swift justice for our brother. I thank the fans for all their undying support and for standing with our family through all the difficult times. Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."
Meanwhile, a source close to Michael Jackson's family tells ET that the King of Pop's relatives are outraged that the music icon's former embattled personal physician would dare to see Michael's grave at Forest Lawn Memorial Parks & Mortuaries in Glendale, CA, a story ET brought you first.
The Associated Press reported on Tuesday that prosecutors reportedly plan to charge Dr. Murray with manslaughter rather than going through a grand jury. Dr. Murray has denied any wrongdoing related to Jackson's death.
ET's source reveals that Michael's mother Katherine Jackson and his brother Jermaine Jackson met with members of the District Attorney's office for four hours to go over details in the case.
These actions were taken so that the family would not be caught off guard when the reported pending charges against Dr. Murray are announced Wednesday. Dr. Murray's lawyer told ET that the physician is planning to turn himself in.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Jennie on February 04, 2010, 08:48:04 PM
I know what you mean, it makes me nervous as well when I read or hear stuff like this, like on the finale of the jackson5.

However there's been something on my mind for some time now, not that I've actually given it a lot of thought but... I have a lot of books and biographie's on MJ and yes I know a lot that is written in them is probably bs. One thing that does seem to be consistent in every book is how Michael would keep his family away from him a lot and kinda get annoyed with them. So I really have to wonder sometimes if they would all know about the hoax, or if only maybe his mother and maybe some of his sisters but they would not be telling. I dont know... Just a thought :?  :roll:
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: susie_23 on February 04, 2010, 08:56:55 PM
Yeah, I think it's about time we all admit that he is truly dead.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 04, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: lovemj4everandever on February 04, 2010, 09:32:24 PM
Don't get discouraged.  I'm not at all discouraged.  There is no way to explain the 100000 oddities that do not add up in this case.  

The will that does not list his children's names legally correctly
The signature on the will being an exact copy off the signature found online
Michael not being in LA on 07/07/02 to sign the will (he was in New York, documented on film)
The memorial - Liberian Girl, I'm alive, The skys the limit
The dates of memorial and will 07/07/02 & 07/07/07 = 7 year difference
The fake funeral, shot two different times, Liberian girl, TII dancers in Victory Jackets
Four different fake death certificates with four different census tract #s
No official signature on any of the four fake death certificates
Probate court cases being completely bogus and phony.
No dates of death on anything that is copyrighted (because it is against the law)
No dates of death on his website, in the Opus, in the movie, on the CD, on the DVD
The disclaimer on the TII DVD that says the interviews are for entertainment only
The fake child support money with Gilda on the $100 bills
Trash pick-up being on Wednesdays at Holmby Hills - not Thursdays
Ambulance with no lights and no sirens
Fake ambulance photo cloned from a photo 20 years ago
911 call as shown on the screen in the firetruck originated from Beverly Hills Hotel
No emotion whatsoever from Alvarez during the 911 call - NONE!
"Internment" on the funeral program rather than "interment"
"Repass" on the funeral program rather than "repast"
Smile lyrics backwards - Light up your face with sadness, hide every trace of gladness
Messages/memorial - I'm alive, The Sky's the Limit, In my PAINS, red liberian girl photo
Yellow liberian girl photo as the only photo used at the funeral 70 days after death
Family 77 minutes late for funeral 70 days after death
The reality series being based on a "dream" that Michael had died
Memorial being listed in the IMDB as genre: Music - Reality TV
Princess Diana's memorial being listed in the IMDB as genre:  News

Contradicting stories from the all involved about where they were when they found out.
Janet was in Atlanta.
Janet was in New York.
Latoya was at home.
Latoya was in her car.
Latoya asked the nurse "is it true" and she "no, it's not true.  I was SO relieved!"
Brian Oxman said MJ was buried immediately following the memorial on 07/07/09.
Joe Jackson does not know where Michael's body is on 07/21/09 on Larry King Live

I could go on and on and on and on and on.  

We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND!  He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD!  The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael.

Keep the Faith and Stay Strong no matter what happens in the next few days.   ;)   :!:
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Shout on February 04, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)

Yes, I agree to that. Although it is hard to believe right now and I had my times when I did not know what to think anymore. There is a possibility that he could be really dead but you are right about that they say it all the time that CM will be charged and last year it was said that it will happen this year. I just wait and see what will happen in some hours I do not think that everything will be over in one day. We do not know how often CM must appear in court or what will happen there. There is still hope for us.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: bec on February 04, 2010, 09:48:24 PM
Read the article carefully. The DA has said nothing. LAPD has said nothing. The entire AP article is based on "a source not authorised to speak publically about the case". Uhuh. That means my friends, this is all bullshit. I could be that source for all you know.

In fact, read every article you can get your hands on regarding this Murray surrender thing. Only Chernoff is quoted making any kind of statement here. I would assume Chernoff knows what's up, he's "representing" "Murray". LAPD refuses to say anything, the DA refuses to say anything. Their silence is really all we need to know right now.

Murray is going to surrender? Oh really. Surrender you say. My friends, that means HE IS  NOT GOING TO BE ARRESTED. YEAH.

And some say this means he's dead. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. God we have learned so little.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 04, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)

Yes, I agree to that. Although it is hard to believe right now and I had my times when I did not know what to think anymore. There is a possibility that he could be really dead but you are right about that they say it all the time that CM will be charged and last year it was said that it will happen this year. I just wait and see what will happen in some hours I do not think that everything will be over in one day. We do not know how often CM must appear in court or what will happen there. There is still hope for us.


Oh, I do not think Mike will return tomorrow, maybe not even for a few months, but this is a big thing and we need to be on top of this.

Like lovemjforeverandever said:

"We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND! He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD! The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael."
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 04, 2010, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)

Yes, I agree to that. Although it is hard to believe right now and I had my times when I did not know what to think anymore. There is a possibility that he could be really dead but you are right about that they say it all the time that CM will be charged and last year it was said that it will happen this year. I just wait and see what will happen in some hours I do not think that everything will be over in one day. We do not know how often CM must appear in court or what will happen there. There is still hope for us.


Oh, I do not think Mike will return tomorrow, maybe not even for a few months, but this is a big thing and we need to be on top of this.

Like lovemjforeverandever said:

"We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND! He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD! The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael."
Justice for what? He's alive!
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 04, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Don't get discouraged.  I'm not at all discouraged.  There is no way to explain the 100000 oddities that do not add up in this case.  

The will that does not list his children's names legally correctly
The signature on the will being an exact copy off the signature found online
Michael not being in LA on 07/07/02 to sign the will (he was in New York, documented on film)
The memorial - Liberian Girl, I'm alive, The skys the limit
The dates of memorial and will 07/07/02 & 07/07/07 = 7 year difference
The fake funeral, shot two different times, Liberian girl, TII dancers in Victory Jackets
Four different fake death certificates with four different census tract #s
No official signature on any of the four fake death certificates
Probate court cases being completely bogus and phony.
No dates of death on anything that is copyrighted (because it is against the law)
No dates of death on his website, in the Opus, in the movie, on the CD, on the DVD
The disclaimer on the TII DVD that says the interviews are for entertainment only
The fake child support money with Gilda on the $100 bills
Trash pick-up being on Wednesdays at Holmby Hills - not Thursdays
Ambulance with no lights and no sirens
Fake ambulance photo cloned from a photo 20 years ago
911 call as shown on the screen in the firetruck originated from Beverly Hills Hotel
No emotion whatsoever from Alvarez during the 911 call - NONE!
"Internment" on the funeral program rather than "interment"
"Repass" on the funeral program rather than "repast"
Smile lyrics backwards - Light up your face with sadness, hide every trace of gladness
Messages/memorial - I'm alive, The Sky's the Limit, In my PAINS, red liberian girl photo
Yellow liberian girl photo as the only photo used at the funeral 70 days after death
Family 77 minutes late for funeral 70 days after death
The reality series being based on a "dream" that Michael had died
Memorial being listed in the IMDB as genre: Music - Reality TV
Princess Diana's memorial being listed in the IMDB as genre:  News

Contradicting stories from the all involved about where they were when they found out.
Janet was in Atlanta.
Janet was in New York.
Latoya was at home.
Latoya was in her car.
Latoya asked the nurse "is it true" and she "no, it's not true.  I was SO relieved!"
Brian Oxman said MJ was buried immediately following the memorial on 07/07/09.
Joe Jackson does not know where Michael's body is on 07/21/09 on Larry King Live

I could go on and on and on and on and on.  

We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND!  He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD!  The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael.

Keep the Faith and Stay Strong no matter what happens in the next few days.   ;)   :!:

Thanks!  I needed that!!! :)
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 04, 2010, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)

Yes, I agree to that. Although it is hard to believe right now and I had my times when I did not know what to think anymore. There is a possibility that he could be really dead but you are right about that they say it all the time that CM will be charged and last year it was said that it will happen this year. I just wait and see what will happen in some hours I do not think that everything will be over in one day. We do not know how often CM must appear in court or what will happen there. There is still hope for us.


Oh, I do not think Mike will return tomorrow, maybe not even for a few months, but this is a big thing and we need to be on top of this.

Like lovemjforeverandever said:

"We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND! He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD! The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael."
Justice for what? He's alive!

Justice for what has been done to him, because he can't speak up himself now, justice for all the others that had to endure the same, justice for the world that is going down because of the controlling governments and media. Of course he's alive!
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: scorpionchik on February 04, 2010, 10:05:01 PM
Exactly. What is that secrecy about? Why so much secrets IF Murray eventually will go public trial?
Why not arrested but called to surrend. Did DA send invitation to Mr. DOCTOR DEAD?  :D
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 04, 2010, 10:11:36 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)

Yes, I agree to that. Although it is hard to believe right now and I had my times when I did not know what to think anymore. There is a possibility that he could be really dead but you are right about that they say it all the time that CM will be charged and last year it was said that it will happen this year. I just wait and see what will happen in some hours I do not think that everything will be over in one day. We do not know how often CM must appear in court or what will happen there. There is still hope for us.


Oh, I do not think Mike will return tomorrow, maybe not even for a few months, but this is a big thing and we need to be on top of this.

Like lovemjforeverandever said:

"We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND! He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD! The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael."
Justice for what? He's alive!

Justice for what has been done to him, because he can't speak up himself now, justice for all the others that had to endure the same, justice for the world that is going down because of the controlling governments and media. Of course he's alive!
You mean you think they will make some kind of statement about the NWO tomorrow? And why do you think he himself wouldn't return tomorrow or take months?
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 04, 2010, 10:34:54 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
You mean you think they will make some kind of statement about the NWO tomorrow? And why do you think he himself wouldn't return tomorrow or take months?

No, they won't, but it could be a turning point. But now I read that it's not going to happen tomorrow. All the suspence!  :lol:

Postponed again, let's see what happens...
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 04, 2010, 10:38:05 PM
It's very frustrating indeed, all these uncertainties..
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on February 04, 2010, 10:58:57 PM
Souza's right....something has to happen to Murray.  The timing of his surrender is pretty weird.  Why not surrender the day he "killed" Michael.  We have gone through - and help me if I left anything out - the Memorial, the Burial, the 2 week unveiling of This Is It, the extension of the unveiling of This Is It, the AMA Tribute, the VMA Tribute, the release of This Is It DVD/BR, Travis teaching everyone including maximum prison inmates the Drill, the Grammy Tribute but not Memorium, and now just as things quiet down....ta da!....Murray surrenders with a stop at FL.  Well, not quite...Murray hasn't surrendered just yet, but maybe tomorrow.

I am going to keep the faith and I am not letting go of Michael's hand right now.  Murray's going to have to be put away for a long time for me to believe that maybe This Is It...This is Really It....This is the Final Curtain Call.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Grace on February 04, 2010, 11:37:33 PM
Doc Murray is a symbol.
I don't fully understand his job tasks yet but he is a helper.
He is the one concentrating the attention, he is in the spotlight - meanwhile Michael may do what he never could until June 25 - only now being in the shadows and the dark and pulling behind the scenes.

English is a phantastic symbolic language.
I always wondered about the so many meanings of some words.
"put to rest", "passed" etc.
One could write books with these words - if taken out of the context that we give them.
Read between the lines. Re-read the phrases out of gossip context.
There you'll find what it's about.

What the family is saying is - agree with Souza - they want justice for Michael's end of being the King of Pop.
The public crucifixion with nailing him on a lover's cross (Jim Croce said it very well) was induced since 1993 and brought many many years of permanent horror.
In addition he was publicly stoned by those who "knew better" and needed a scapegoat.

One cannot heal from a trauma like that by just being abroad in Bahrain and Ireland some time and returning by waving a hand "I am back again, dear fans, dear media, dear publishers, come and see me again!..."

IMO Murray is representing the scapegoat these days but as he is a symbol they watch over him. The delays are on purpose to buy time for Michael and to stir up the soup.

There is a new crucifixion in the make.

We are heading towards global wake-up call. The soup will get really hot.
If you were not convinced by TII and everything good that accompanied us and lighted our way, you may lose your path during the next weeks.
Take glasses of a 7 yr. old child if you feel like falling. The perception of children is simple and heartful. Look with your heart, open your eyes, smell the fish and build your own opinion.
Stand tall.
It's all for L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Butterfly J on February 05, 2010, 12:00:50 AM
Great posts Souza ans Grace! I´m 100% agree with both of you.
What ever happens don´t let go of his hand :)
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: still beLIEve on February 05, 2010, 12:15:20 AM
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4862 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4862)

there we go again...... every time something like this happens some believers start doubting.... I think all this game it´s not for us.... it´s for the NON BELIEVERS!! for them to realize that something very weird is going on!!!
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on February 05, 2010, 12:23:18 AM
Very good point Still BeLIEve, for the NON-BELIVERS to wake up that something is fishy! I wish my husband would be one of them! LOL! He thinks I'm literally crazy to think MJ is alive! Can't wait to prove him wrong! Sorry, had to vent a little, I just keep getting my hopes up that the BAM day is here and then more delays! It will happen when the time is right for MJ. CHEERS!
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Zen on February 05, 2010, 12:31:48 AM
Once CM opened his mouth, they HAD to do something with him!
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: darkchild on February 05, 2010, 12:57:49 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
It was about time something would happen regarding Murray.

"Hopefully with the promised action that will take place in the next 48 hours, we can begin healing."

I do not get why people are losing hope about this, what did you think? They already postponed it since October.

Heal the world, maybe within the next 24 hours something significant will happen. Mike is alive and kicking, I have my popcorn ready for the livestream on TMZ tomorrow!  ;)

Yes, I agree to that. Although it is hard to believe right now and I had my times when I did not know what to think anymore. There is a possibility that he could be really dead but you are right about that they say it all the time that CM will be charged and last year it was said that it will happen this year. I just wait and see what will happen in some hours I do not think that everything will be over in one day. We do not know how often CM must appear in court or what will happen there. There is still hope for us.


Oh, I do not think Mike will return tomorrow, maybe not even for a few months, but this is a big thing and we need to be on top of this.

Like lovemjforeverandever said:

"We are entering a brand new twist & turn, but WHATEVER HAPPENS, DON'T LET GO OF HIS HAND! He is the master and we all know deep inside that he IS NOT DEAD! The family is getting JUSTICE for Michael."


Amen, Souza! You got that right! MJ, I am never letting go of your hand! I love you too much to let go or leave you! God bless everyone, and Keep The Faith!
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: lookingforthetroot on February 05, 2010, 01:10:05 AM
Follow MJHOAXALIVE chat for updates  there is alot of info in the court room its very messy lots of bad guys...  I don't care if Micheal performs again he does not need to I just hope he is still alive and well, and is getting justice for all the injustice that has been done to him...  

I think what is happening is just a distraction of something because it all to ridiculous to be real..

Keep the faith
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: teine21 on February 05, 2010, 01:16:54 AM
I wouldn't lose hope. They were saying Dr. Murray will surrender on Friday & will be arraigned. Now, the LAPD & DA are fighting & can't get it together, so it is being delayed again. No surrender or arraignment for Dr. Murray. & as far as the family goes, notice the ones who are always speaking out, Latoya, Jermaine & Joe. They are the most scandalous, lying, greedy of all the family. Maybe Michael didn't involve them in the hoax for that reason, they would probably mess it all up with their mouths! lol. Even if they speak out, if Michael is alive, which it is pointing to more & more, then he has people helping him & can keep control of what happens regardless of the 3 of them & their claims. I mean, look at how the LAPD & DA are handling this, it seems more & more that this is a hoax & they are helping keep it covered up & if that's the case do you really think they will listen to what Latoya, Jermaine or Joe say?
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: bec on February 05, 2010, 01:52:15 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Doc Murray is a symbol.
I don't fully understand his job tasks yet but he is a helper.
He is the one concentrating the attention, he is in the spotlight - meanwhile Michael may do what he never could until June 25 - only now being in the shadows and the dark and pulling behind the scenes.

English is a phantastic symbolic language.
I always wondered about the so many meanings of some words.
"put to rest", "passed" etc.
One could write books with these words - if taken out of the context that we give them.
Read between the lines. Re-read the phrases out of gossip context.
There you'll find what it's about.

What the family is saying is - agree with Souza - they want justice for Michael's end of being the King of Pop.
The public crucifixion with nailing him on a lover's cross (Jim Croce said it very well) was induced since 1993 and brought many many years of permanent horror.
In addition he was publicly stoned by those who "knew better" and needed a scapegoat.

One cannot heal from a trauma like that by just being abroad in Bahrain and Ireland some time and returning by waving a hand "I am back again, dear fans, dear media, dear publishers, come and see me again!..."

IMO Murray is representing the scapegoat these days but as he is a symbol they watch over him. The delays are on purpose to buy time for Michael and to stir up the soup.

There is a new crucifixion in the make.

We are heading towards global wake-up call. The soup will get really hot.
If you were not convinced by TII and everything good that accompanied us and lighted our way, you may lose your path during the next weeks.
Take glasses of a 7 yr. old child if you feel like falling. The perception of children is simple and heartful. Look with your heart, open your eyes, smell the fish and build your own opinion.
Stand tall.
It's all for L.O.V.E.

You're brilliant Grace, I couldn't have said it better myself, though I have tried many times. I have long believed Murray to be symbolic in the role he is playing. Look at what we have been told about him: he is a professional black man who fell from grace, like Michael. He is, reportedly, a holistic doctor who is being painted as doctor feel good and doctor death by the media (sound familier?). He is being portrayed as incompetant and irresponsible. His money troubles and family issues (child support, girlfriend, ex-wives) are being displayed for us all to scorn and criticize. He is hounded and stalked by the media. He has been painted as guilty in the court of public opinion thanks to the tabloids long before charges were even discussed.

There's so many other little quirks about the Murray character that look and sound and feel SO familier... that YouTube message to his supporters was just the tip of the iceberg. Hoaxers speculating that he was actually Michael in disguise I'm sure pleased Michael very much...
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Idéalo on February 05, 2010, 02:23:35 AM
michael said: adventure, great adventure.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 05, 2010, 02:28:50 AM
Quote from: "susie_23"
Yeah, I think it's about time we all admit that he is truly dead.

Never. I'm not giving up.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: msteetee34 on February 05, 2010, 03:45:25 AM
It doesn't make me nervous.  The Jacksons always got something to say and notice who the spokesperson is in the article Mr. drama Jermaine.  Notice he said they seek "swift" justice like they want it to hurry up and get over with.  They been waiting this long how he gone say the family seek swift justice now.  It's been like 8 months.  They should have said that months ago.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Angel Wynton on February 05, 2010, 03:59:40 AM
Last News Murray don't turn himself in, because he don't want to be handcoft??
Michael had that expirience by handcofting, and then they found out that
Murray is MJ..... :mrgreen: I told you this is a set up for the media.
look at the hands of DR Murray and they are to tuny for a fathead.
:mrgreen:

Celebrity Justice
Dr. Murray's Lawyer -- No Plan to Surrender

Posted Feb 3rd 2010 1:26PM by TMZ Staff

Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyer says he's in the dark -- and doesn't even know if the D.A. will file charges in the death of Michael Jackson.

J. Michael Flanagan: Click to watch
J. Michael Flanagan just arrived at his law office in Glendale, CA, and said there are "no plans" to turn Dr. Murray over to authorities.

As we have already reported, however, we know Dr. Murray's legal team has been in touch with the D.A. and they were told they'd get a call as soon as charges were filed so Dr. Murray could go to the courthouse in downtown L.A. and surrender.

As we first reported, the D.A. has already drafted a criminal complaint against Dr. Murray, who will be charged with involuntary manslaughter in Michael Jackson's death.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=78ce5086-9d8b-4f88-8f3b-054d4bb379c8

Take a look at the risk they are white. :mrgreen:

(http://igossip.com/photos/thehollywoodgossip_dr_conrad_murray_49308_dr_conrad_murray_322x416.jpg)
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Sangre on February 05, 2010, 06:45:11 AM
What if they are talking about the media? It's the tabloids that killed Michael ('s soul) by dragging him through the dirt.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Angel Wynton on February 05, 2010, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
What if they are talking about the media? It's the tabloids that killed Michael ('s soul) by dragging him through the dirt.

Believe me MJ is not dead  ;)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Sangre on February 07, 2010, 06:03:24 AM
Quote from: "Angel Wynton"
Quote from: "Sangre"
What if they are talking about the media? It's the tabloids that killed Michael ('s soul) by dragging him through the dirt.

Believe me MJ is not dead  ;)  :mrgreen:


I didn't say he was dead. Michael's life was destroyed by media and that's what I meant when I said "killed." I'm sorry, I should have been clearer.
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: PrettyYoungTeletubby on February 07, 2010, 06:52:06 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Grace"
Doc Murray is a symbol.
I don't fully understand his job tasks yet but he is a helper.
He is the one concentrating the attention, he is in the spotlight - meanwhile Michael may do what he never could until June 25 - only now being in the shadows and the dark and pulling behind the scenes.

(...).

You're brilliant Grace, I couldn't have said it better myself, though I have tried many times. I have long believed Murray to be symbolic in the role he is playing. Look at what we have been told about him: he is a professional black man who fell from grace, like Michael. He is, reportedly, a holistic doctor who is being painted as doctor feel good and doctor death by the media (sound familier?). He is being portrayed as incompetant and irresponsible. His money troubles and family issues (child support, girlfriend, ex-wives) are being displayed for us all to scorn and criticize. He is hounded and stalked by the media. He has been painted as guilty in the court of public opinion thanks to the tabloids long before charges were even discussed.

There's so many other little quirks about the Murray character that look and sound and feel SO familier... that YouTube message to his supporters was just the tip of the iceberg. Hoaxers speculating that he was actually Michael in disguise I'm sure pleased Michael very much...

Yep he s just a symbol. I totally agree with u guys. I started beLIEving there s a hoax, mostly because of Murray. Why on earth would MJ need a cardiologist???? That for me alone is a symbol... cardiologist takes care of heart and looking for symbolism, of love...."It s all for L.O.V.E."... i think "cardiologist" has a meaning there

Especially considering what a great cardiologist he seems to be (doing CPR on a bed to a man with a faint pulse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

And back to the topic, i m not nervous when i hear Jermaine, Joseph or LaToya speak....All through the years i never believed a word they said. They r just crawling for attention. So either way, or MJ s dead and they keep on with what they do best (looking for publicity) or he s alive and those 3 are always the ones adressing the medias cause they are so good at it and enjoying it.

I would be nervous when i start seing Katherine or Rebbie adress the media. CAuse they seem to be the only ones who aren't looking for fame

And if Jermaine wanted ppl to take this story seriously, he should have advised his wife not to wear a "Michael Lives" T-shirt.............
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Datroot on February 07, 2010, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: "PrettyYoungTeletubby"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "Grace"
Doc Murray is a symbol.
I don't fully understand his job tasks yet but he is a helper.
He is the one concentrating the attention, he is in the spotlight - meanwhile Michael may do what he never could until June 25 - only now being in the shadows and the dark and pulling behind the scenes.

(...).

You're brilliant Grace, I couldn't have said it better myself, though I have tried many times. I have long believed Murray to be symbolic in the role he is playing. Look at what we have been told about him: he is a professional black man who fell from grace, like Michael. He is, reportedly, a holistic doctor who is being painted as doctor feel good and doctor death by the media (sound familier?). He is being portrayed as incompetant and irresponsible. His money troubles and family issues (child support, girlfriend, ex-wives) are being displayed for us all to scorn and criticize. He is hounded and stalked by the media. He has been painted as guilty in the court of public opinion thanks to the tabloids long before charges were even discussed.

FBI agent is what I think

There's so many other little quirks about the Murray character that look and sound and feel SO familier... that YouTube message to his supporters was just the tip of the iceberg. Hoaxers speculating that he was actually Michael in disguise I'm sure pleased Michael very much...

Yep he s just a symbol. I totally agree with u guys. I started beLIEving there s a hoax, mostly because of Murray. Why on earth would MJ need a cardiologist???? That for me alone is a symbol... cardiologist takes care of heart and looking for symbolism, of love...."It s all for L.O.V.E."... i think "cardiologist" has a meaning there

Especially considering what a great cardiologist he seems to be (doing CPR on a bed to a man with a faint pulse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

And back to the topic, i m not nervous when i hear Jermaine, Joseph or LaToya speak....All through the years i never believed a word they said. They r just crawling for attention. So either way, or MJ s dead and they keep on with what they do best (looking for publicity) or he s alive and those 3 are always the ones adressing the medias cause they are so good at it and enjoying it.

I would be nervous when i start seing Katherine or Rebbie adress the media. CAuse they seem to be the only ones who aren't looking for fame

And if Jermaine wanted ppl to take this story seriously, he should have advised his wife not to wear a "Michael Lives" T-shirt.............
Title: Re: the family is speaking out~this makes me nervous guys
Post by: Rosie on February 07, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Read the article carefully. The DA has said nothing. LAPD has said nothing. The entire AP article is based on "a source not authorised to speak publically about the case". Uhuh. That means my friends, this is all bullshit. I could be that source for all you know.

In fact, read every article you can get your hands on regarding this Murray surrender thing. Only Chernoff is quoted making any kind of statement here. I would assume Chernoff knows what's up, he's "representing" "Murray". LAPD refuses to say anything, the DA refuses to say anything. Their silence is really all we need to know right now.

Murray is going to surrender? Oh really. Surrender you say. My friends, that means HE IS  NOT GOING TO BE ARRESTED. YEAH.

And some say this means he's dead. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. God we have learned so little.


I'm with you bec!  :)
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