Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: mumof3 on February 05, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4btvmIAEOk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4btvmIAEOk)
Sorry if has been on here but it looks so real tom me help it is upsetting wht the hell if it is real.. what do you think
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This is not good for me to see. It has me thinking would MJ deceive his fans like this? Letting them bring flowers to a fake gravesite. It would be very cruel actually if this is indeed a hoax. These last days are so confusing, really don't know what to think anymore. I want to get out of this ride!
Please Michael for the love of your fans and all of us believers show yourself death or alive!
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Most likely they don't know anything about MJ's possible hoax.. But if he is dead, I think that's kinda weird. Lock theirself in, and let people film.. It's like a museum, not a private grave.
They get paid for doing their job, no matter if there are any bodies or not in the grave.
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I cant understand why the fans are laughing but i did not like it and i am sorry to post it
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Isn't the crypt supposed to off limits to anyone who isn't family or close friends of the family?
I wouldn't worry too much about this.
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Yes i know but it looks so real to me
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So dont you think i should worry about this because I find it very scary
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I'm getting confused. They say only family members are allowed. Are they lying? Someone is. Who and for what purposes?
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Did you notice how BIG the crypt is?? :shock:
When the guys walks up to it with the flowers, the crypt drawfs him. I didnt realise it was SOOO big!!!
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Is this appropriate behaviour? I think not....
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I´m done guyz. This is way too much for me. I can´t handle this anymore. This is so real... I feel lost and bad and hopeless :cry: This is it for me
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I´m done guyz. This is way too much for me. I can´t handle this anymore. This is so real... I feel lost and bad and hopeless :cry: This is it for me
These people are mental fanatics... look at the picture above. What kind of behaviour is that?????
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I´m done guyz. This is way too much for me. I can´t handle this anymore. This is so real... I feel lost and bad and hopeless :cry: This is it for me
find peace, you will find strength, then you will accept whatever comes to you
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I´m done guyz. This is way too much for me. I can´t handle this anymore. This is so real... I feel lost and bad and hopeless :cry: This is it for me
These people are mental fanatics... look at the picture above. What kind of behaviour is that?????
yes but i can´t help it now - i just feel like that :cry:
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I´m done guyz. This is way too much for me. I can´t handle this anymore. This is so real... I feel lost and bad and hopeless :cry: This is it for me
These people are mental fanatics... look at the picture above. What kind of behaviour is that?????
well if i am honest i may act like that and then regret it, i dont know what i would do -
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I´m done guyz. This is way too much for me. I can´t handle this anymore. This is so real... I feel lost and bad and hopeless :cry: This is it for me
I am sorry i did not want tp upset you but I felt shocked and had to put it here to see what you would all say on another site they said it looked staged but I think it does look very dissrepectfull i could not even watch the whole thing because of the laughing and joy that seemed to be there at the mo i am just soo angry but i will see this thing throught to find out what happened to Michael
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@arabian nights... i dont think you would act like that. That picture shows them acting with no respect or dignity.. they are at a graveside!! Of someone they love!! Why take pictures and videos of it at all?.. and then put it all over the internet..... and be pushing past each other craning their necks? There is nothing to see anyway, apart from a stone box.
I think if you were there you would act with a quiet respect and dignity. In fact i know you would because you have emotional intelligence.
Have faith. xxxx
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Ditto
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What happens to all this stuff?
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@arabian nights... i dont think you would act like that. That picture is shows them acting with no respect or dignity.. they are at a graveside!! Of someone they love!! Why take pictures and vidoes of it at all?.. and be pushing past each other craning their necks? There is nothing to see anyway, apart from a stone box.
I think if you were there you would act with a quiet respect and dignity. In fact i know you would.
Have faith. xxxx
i did not watch the vid after the first few frames - so you know me very well.
but i feel that pp have a basic need, and sometimes that takes over and sometimes its a pack thing. i dont blame them at all, i think its understandable, this is probably the only time that they have been close to their idol and they are only focusing on that... they have forgotten... yes forgotten that he is/was a man that felt love and pain....
but then again i did not watch the vid so i dont know what i am talking about - i am generalising
Lady J, take a time out we will be here waiting for you, hugs loveXXXXX
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ok, THAT'S the weirdest shit I've seen yet! They're taking that stuff in like the man is sitting on a couch waiting to get it! Maybe he is. lol I hate to sound mean, but just look at those women. That image speaks for itself. The thing I found interesting is the guard said "working relationship". Huh??? And like the other poster said, why in the hell is everyone so damn chipper? It's a funeral home for christ's sake. On my best day, I'm not going to be happy to be there. Especially for someone like Michael Jackson. Maybe it's all just staged yet again, who knows. God, California can just be so damn weird sometimes!
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Don't loose hope over this. Has anyone here met any of these MJ fans. Do we know if they are for real? So strange this is out on a day with so much going on - ya know?
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This is why the damn world is coming to an end. Because of scenes just like this one!
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God bless you arabian knight. I am here with you, and I thank you for lifting me up. I would be lost without you all.
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Plus - they didn't really walk up to crypt. It could be anyone at the end of that hallway. I refuse to believe he's there.
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It seems to me like a coach trip out to see a monument or sight seeing I will have to watch all of it as i didnt I hated it but they seem jolly here goes deep breath ill have a look.
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This is why the damn world is coming to an end. Because of scenes just like this one!
your so funny
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God bless you arabian knight. I am here with you, and I thank you for lifting me up. I would be lost without you all.
bless your heart xxx
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Peeeople... Michael isn't stupid. :) If he faked his death, he'd make sure people believe there is a GRAVE. I know it's hard sometimes, but if this is a hoax, it's a well planned one, and it wouldn't work any other way.
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It seems to me like a coach trip out to see a monument or sight seeing I will have to watch all of it as i didnt I hated it but they seem jolly here goes deep breath ill have a look.
i was thinking that - joke
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Does the whole hall belong to MJ supposedly? If not imagine can you imagine other people going to see their loved ones in serene solace and walking in in to see all these THINGS, flowers, cards, bears, pictures, letters, and CANDY? I don't know. It just doesn't seem befitting.
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do you think it is worth phoning forrest lawn to find out when they allow the area to be open to hand over your flowers because I thought it was suppose to be a secret location and a no go area so how can they stand there and look at the tomb like that i know it is from a distance but they did not look to sad i would be so upset is it worth a call guys people in the USA
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i had thought mj owned the whole thing, but i dont think that is the case, i think there are rows of pp like filing cabinets.
i think there is a thread on this but i could be totally wrong
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I cant understand why the fans are laughing but i did not like it and i am sorry to post it
Same here, it makes me mad! :evil:
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the photo is what the wreaths with red hearts and the letters VE above
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do you think it is worth phoning forrest lawn to find out when they allow the area to be open to hand over your flowers
Yes!!!
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I wondered if anybody could do that as i am in the uk
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WTF I really can't see this being right. Firstly why are the fans allowed there now? who's authorised it? and who the hell gave them the right to video it and take photos! This is so disrespectful its either part of the hoax - it can't really be disrespectful if MJ isn't dead - or he isn't buried there. Also the guards were hardly going to turn the fans away and tell them they must have the wrong place! But OMG if it is all genuine :x
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This is so strange. I didn't think that it was accessible. I didn't think that just anyone could go to the grave or crypt or whatever it's called. Something's off about this...
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I'm not going to watch that video but I have to say WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I thought Michael was laid to rest at Forrest Lawn for safety!!
These are the things that make me know everyday that this is a Hoax!!
No human should be treated the way Michael has since he "Died"
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I watched the video and didn't think it was sad at all. In fact, I thought it was utterly ridiculous and unbelievable. First of all, the supposed Head of Security at Forest Lawn makes a brief, friendly statement about how he is glad the fans are there and ENCOURAGES more fans to come visit. Then, he LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN TO THE CRYPT as he is carrying the gifts in. Not to mention he is allowing them to take photos and video of the supposed PRIVATE crypt.
Something is just not quite right about that video!
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What is really strange about this to me is that there is supposed to be a NO camera policy , no one is able to be admitted unless with a family member, and I believe the tomb site was supposed to be underground and private not at the end of a corridor!
I do not understand why the security guard was allowing them to take photographs and video, there is something more to this I am sure, just carnt work out what at the moment.
This is getting way past weird and if he is gone so so disrespectful to believe :roll:
Keep the faith I know its difficult sometimes.
This adventure can be a Thriller sometimes and really tests you.
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VALENTINES DAY!!!
They are doing this to send "LOVE" to Michael for valentines - On the 3rd of Feb????? ;)
Whats with the clapping & laughing & cheering??????? Please!!
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I don't think that MJ's body in that crypt. I believe that he was buried next to his brother(Marlon's twin)
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Unfortunately, but true, not all Michael Jackson fans are respectful.
Blaring music outside UCLA was surreal and upsetting.
Writing on Graceland wall "R.I.P. Michael Jackson"
Also, years of fans grabbing his hair, trying to grab a piece of Michael.
I would wonder if a tour bus didn't stop by the mausoleum and city glad to get
tourist dollars however possible.
Bottom line, THIS certainly tells nothing one way or the other.
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I RESEARCHED THE PEOPLE AT THE FOREST LAWN. THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED AND FILMED AT CHRISTMAS. I COMPARED ALL OF THEIR FACES, AND THEY ARE THE SAME BUNCH OF PEOPLE. THEY ARE FROM 'MICHAEL JACKSON FANS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. AN ODD THING I CAME ACROSS, IS IN THE FACEBOOK PAGE, THEY MENTION THEY WERE ALL ON THE TOUR BUS OUTSIDE MJ'S HOUSE ON THE 24TH JUNE 2009. REMEMBER THE TOUR BUS OUTSIDE MJ'S HOME ON THE 25TH???? THEY CLAIM IT WAS THEM ON THE DAY BEFORE.......... ALSO, ONE OF THE MEMBERS IS SOMEONE CALLED 'SEARCH FOR FAMOUS PEOPLES GRAVES'. THEY HAVE VIDEOS POSTED REGARDING THEIR VISITS TO MANY OTHER FAMOUS PEOPLES FINALY RESTING PLACE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE EVER BEEN LET IN. MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE THEY THE SAME PEOPLE, YET NO-ONE ELSE CAN GET NEAR ENOUGH????????? NOW BRIBING A SECURITY GUARD IS NOT OKAY. HE LEFT THE DOOR OPEN WHEN HE BROUGHT THE STUFF IN. ANYONE COULD HAVE RUN RIGHT INSIDE.....THAT'S NOT OKAY. IF THESE ARE THE ONLY FANS THAT HAVE BEEN FOOLISH ENOUGH TO VISIT AND LEAVE STUFF, THEN THEY EITHER DON'T SUSPECT MJ IS STILL ALIVE, OR THEY ARE FAKES.
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I RESEARCHED THE PEOPLE AT THE FOREST LAWN. THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED AND FILMED AT CHRISTMAS. I COMPARED ALL OF THEIR FACES, AND THEY ARE THE SAME BUNCH OF PEOPLE. THEY ARE FROM 'MICHAEL JACKSON FANS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. AN ODD THING I CAME ACROSS, IS IN THE FACEBOOK PAGE, THEY MENTION THEY WERE ALL ON THE TOUR BUS OUTSIDE MJ'S HOUSE ON THE 24TH JUNE 2009. REMEMBER THE TOUR BUS OUTSIDE MJ'S HOME ON THE 25TH???? THEY CLAIM IT WAS THEM ON THE DAY BEFORE.......... ALSO, ONE OF THE MEMBERS IS SOMEONE CALLED 'SEARCH FOR FAMOUS PEOPLES GRAVES'. THEY HAVE VIDEOS POSTED REGARDING THEIR VISITS TO MANY OTHER FAMOUS PEOPLES FINALY RESTING PLACE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE EVER BEEN LET IN. MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE THEY THE SAME PEOPLE, YET NO-ONE ELSE CAN GET NEAR ENOUGH????????? NOW BRIBING A SECURITY GUARD IS NOT OKAY. HE LEFT THE DOOR OPEN WHEN HE BROUGHT THE STUFF IN. ANYONE COULD HAVE RUN RIGHT INSIDE.....THAT'S NOT OKAY. IF THESE ARE THE ONLY FANS THAT HAVE BEEN FOOLISH ENOUGH TO VISIT AND LEAVE STUFF, THEN THEY EITHER DON'T SUSPECT MJ IS STILL ALIVE, OR THEY ARE FAKES.
WOW THANKYOU FOR FINDING THATY OUT HOW DID YOU AMNAGE THAT ONE sorry about caps any way How convenient they were out side when the "death " happened and then the christmas thing and the search for famous peoples graves,? either they are fakes or they being paid by Michael to cover the story and make a few appearences any way I did not like ther lack of respect and the guard could be in alot of trouble forest lawn shold be told emailed about this .
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Also have you got their face book name or anything i might just have a look and see what they are about.
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From the website that I visited (FL), it stated that cameras and the media are prohibited.
So I think its fake..
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@arabian nights... i dont think you would act like that. That picture is shows them acting with no respect or dignity.. they are at a graveside!! Of someone they love!! Why take pictures and vidoes of it at all?.. and be pushing past each other craning their necks? There is nothing to see anyway, apart from a stone box.
I think if you were there you would act with a quiet respect and dignity. In fact i know you would.
Have faith. xxxx
i did not watch the vid after the first few frames - so you know me very well.
but i feel that pp have a basic need, and sometimes that takes over and sometimes its a pack thing. i dont blame them at all, i think its understandable, this is probably the only time that they have been close to their idol and they are only focusing on that... they have forgotten... yes forgotten that he is/was a man that felt love and pain....
but then again i did not watch the vid so i dont know what i am talking about - i am generalising
Lady J, take a time out we will be here waiting for you, hugs loveXXXXX
Nicely said. You are very kind Arabian nights
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I am very surprised to see that the people in charge are letting them take pictures and videos of the final resting place. I thought NO one was supposed to take pics or videos, or even know the location of the tomb, because the family was afraid some fans would desecrate it?
After the burial, the closest the public will be able to get to Jackson's vault is a portion of the mausoleum that displays "The Last Supper Window," a life-size stained-glass re-creation of Leonardo da Vinci's masterpiece. Several 10-minute presentations about the window are held regularly 365 days a year, but most of the building is restricted.
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/690615 (http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/690615)
Did anyone see The Last Supper Window? and if it was restricted how did the recording occur? Oh and can someone explain about the 12 plots that were bought at FL Glendale? What are the 12 plots anyway? Is it what we see in that video?
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This semmes so well staged,even if these fans are real,Mike does not cheat them,Michael could not control everything after excaping,besides i'm almost sure there is no body in the grave,why is it so that only fans visit the grave, not a single family member,don't loose hope cause of such trifles.
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Now it turns out, the day this video was filmed .. was the same day Dr Murray was there!!!
http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti ... ayflg.html (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/2010/02/conradmurrayflg.html)
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And those fans were on the tour bus when Michael"died" I read a little while ago so what is going on !!
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And those fans were on the tour bus when Michael"died" I read a little while ago so what is going on !!
Yes... i recognise one of the women too. :shock:
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WTF I really can't see this being right. Firstly why are the fans allowed there now? who's authorised it? and who the hell gave them the right to video it and take photos! This is so disrespectful its either part of the hoax - it can't really be disrespectful if MJ isn't dead - or he isn't buried there. Also the guards were hardly going to turn the fans away and tell them they must have the wrong place! But OMG if it is all genuine
Anybody can go to the crypt and leave flowers etc, but you can't go inside , as you see they are all outside .
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http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=2 ... comments=1 (http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=205023347221&share_id=454765735025&comments=1)
This is their Facebook Page, and I'll look for the video one of them has posted about Conrad Murray being at the gravesite/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5bAfNR4ZPo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5bAfNR4ZPo) and this one is LisaBurks video of them all visiting at Christmas as well. Same people, same faces........
Found the video of Conrad Murry visiting the Grave Site................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8TUbyfC38 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8TUbyfC38)
Check out 1.17....when Murray gets up. You can hear camera's clicking. Also look at the sign behind him when he gets up.... it says GENERAL PUBLIC ????????????CAN SOMEONE WORK IT OUT.
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Interesting new diggs mj ! lol Have you noticed lately more victims of
the media are being 'publicly' spoken up for ? Some speaking via the same
media outlet that did the trashing..
Prescription drug deaths et al...beautiful
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Also not uncommon are other flowers or gifts, what happens to the family and friends ", now we always see these people and the pictures of Karen Faye ;)
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ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE ON A GRAVE HUNTING TOUR.............GRAVEHUNTING.COM
THAT'S WHAT THEY DO PROFESSIONALLY. THEY ARE THE SAME AS THE CHRISTMAS GROUP. THEY MEET ON THE 3RD OF EVERY MONTH. THEY HAVE A WEBSITE. LISA BURKS IS THE FOUNDER. SHE ARRANGES 'HUNTING DOWN FAMOUS PEOPLES GRAVE SITES AND THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL MEMBERS. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE THE PRIVILIDGE OF BEING THERE. SHE STATES THAT SHE ADVERTISED ABOUT IT AND THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD SENT LETTERS ETC, SO SHE COULD LEAVE THEM AT MJ'S CRYPT. THAT EXPLAINS WHY THE GUARDS OPENED THE DOORS TO HER. SHE IS WELL KNOWN THERE. SHE HAS VIDEO OF ALL THE OTHER FAMOUS GRAVE STONES, INCLUDING CLARK CABLE, ALSO AT FOREST LAWN.
YOUTUBE CAN BE SO MISLEADING...........IF THIS WASN'T RESEARCHED CLOSER, IT SUGGESTS THAT ANYONE CAN GO AT ANY TIME....THIS IS NOT TRUE. SHE IS A GUEST AND HER CLUB IS ON THE GUEST LIST PERMANANTLY...THIS IS HER WEBSITE AND VIDEOS........LOOK AT THE MEMBERS PHOTOS...DO THEY LOOK FAMILIAR?????????????
http://www.youtube.com/user/lisaburks (http://www.youtube.com/user/lisaburks)
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eek
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but this is why the family need to get focused and do something permanent
there is nothing over 40 years in show business, warehouses filled with stuff, dont let the moths eat it,
they need one selfless family member to to sort this for the benefit of them all and the loyal fans that would go to see it,
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Seems like someone threw a box of twinkies in there! :shock:
How could they let them just pile in like that? I would imagine one at a time, dressed in black.
This disgusts me. If Michael is really dead, (which I highly doubt), he deserves more respect than this.