Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on February 06, 2010, 09:11:31 AM
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I KNOW WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONRAD MURRAY VISITING AT FOREST LAWN.
THE THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MY MIND STRAIGHT AWAY, WAS,
THIS JUST PROVES THE HOAX THEORY IS REAL. HOW THE HELL, OR WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY LET A SUPPOSED MURDERER EVEN NEAR THE SUPPOSED RESTING PLACE OF HIS VICTIM? THINK ABOUT IT. LOOK AT ALL OTHER CASES OF OTHER MURDERERS. DID THEY EVER VISIT THE VICTIMS BODY? THIS MORE THAN EVER, PROVES THAT IT IS A BIG CLUE TO THE FANS.. THAT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN WITH THE HEAVY SECURITY. SO LOOK AT IT, IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. NOT MANY PEOPLE CAN GET NEAR THE RESTING PLACE UNLESS THEIR NAME IS ON A LIST FIRST...........AT TMZ LIVE VIDEOS, THEY ANSWER ALL THE CONRAD MURRAY QUESTIONS IN GREAT DETAIL, YET THEY WIZZED THROUGH THE OTHER QUESTIONS VERY QUICKLY.
THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.........HUMM. WONDER WHY. THESE ARE THE FACTS. THERE IS NO WAY DR CM COULD HAVE EVEN GOT CLOSE TO FL.
UNLESS, HE WAS GIVEN PERMISSION FROM MJ PERSONALLY.
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yes you could be right on this. It's very weird that's for sure.
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It is weird like i said before if I knocked somebody down in my car by mistake I would not expect the family to allow me to visit the victim or if something happened to a person in my family and another person was responsible there is no way I would let them near their final resting place. alright he is not a Murderer weilding a gun or knife but if it is true he is an idiot who did not do his job but he should not be there the fans that think he is dead will lynch him if they could it is not safe for him .
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
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yeah i dont actually see him @the grave or maseolum (sp) just at what is supposed to be FL!! i want to see pics of him by the doors and on his knees crying (if he did kill mj) i would feel so horrible if i had killed someone by accident i wouldnt want to go near that place..
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What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic ;)
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
I was looking at the TMZ article and there is also a picture. I found two things interesting and both were brought up in the comments for that article. First, someone said Dr Murray wasn't at the right building. I don't know if it's true because I have never been there to know how it should look. Secondly, this next part is taken from the article...
Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.
Murray was seen outside the mausoleum, but not inside.
http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/ (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/)
I thought, and so did a whole lot of others, this part about "the man he may or may not have accidentally killed." is really interesting. It gives me the impression that TMZ may have more information. If they don't - they should be really ashamed of themselves for placing doubt and confusion in the minds of others. That would be to Dr Murray's benefit come court day.
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im really getting the feeling TMZ is f**king with us!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Yup. I totally agree with you, I find it extremely weird. Especially since the family is speaking out saying they want him charged for murder, if they have that much anger towards CM then they definitely wouldn't want him visiting Michael's grave. Heck, they don't even visit his grave! lol.
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im really getting the feeling TMZ is f**king with us!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why? Read my reply.
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Thanx for the link, I haven't seen this TMZ picture before.
What is funny about this headline :CM visits MJ's tomb
Under the picture it says: Murray was seen outside the mausoleum, but not inside.
Where exactly is MJ's tomb :?:
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yes i wonder that too.. :?
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Yeah....and how could the family even allow it?
Isnt this the same family that banned the MEDIA from filming the funeral.....but had the funeral filmed by the same crew of documentarians who had filmed THIS IS IT?
Film a funeral in HD?....Holy Shit....What for?
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National Photo Group :lol: :lol: :arrow: ;)
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im really getting the feeling TMZ is f**king with us!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why? Read my reply.
what reply?? and i think they r screwing with our heads for ratings, just sharing maybe whats going on/maybe not idk//im just scared to get my hopes up too high thats all :(
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im really getting the feeling TMZ is f**king with us!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why? Read my reply.
what reply?? and i think they r screwing with our heads for ratings, just sharing maybe whats going on/maybe not idk//im just scared to get my hopes up too high thats all :(
What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
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stranger and stranger
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
thing is that if mike is dead then all these terrible mishaps have happened and no one is in control
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
thing is that if mike is dead then all these terrible mishaps have happened and no one is in control
I didn't quite understand what were you trying to say, english not my language :oops:
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Sorry :shock: I´m amazed!
You mean that Murray was involved in all these deaths?
First time I know something like that.
Where can we find that information?
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:o Murray was involved in the death of James Brown ? :o :o :o How on earth could Michael hire this guy ??? God ! I cant believe it.
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maybe joe is behind all this? :?
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Great topic guys!!
Do you remember the so called photo of Murray in LA leaving a hotel with a book in his hand???????
Was that book all about the wheelings & dealing of a doctor subscribing drugs to celebs??? Fictional??
I can't recall the name of the book :?
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Things seem to get an entire new perspective; with all the ingredients we have right now , we could write the script for a fantastic play/movie, right? Guess I need to work part time to keep up with all these new developments! :lol:
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Excellent topic and post. Just had to say that... :D He was allowed to be there. And then Jermaine quickly did damage control by shedding a few tears on ET.
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I was looking through the photographs of CM not sure how the photographer got inside to take the photographs but found one which I find interesting it is a close up of a stone tablet book on a page which reads
Sanctuary of brotherly love?
Just wondering if this is significant :?
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_ ... ost_recent (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murray_michael_jackson_forest_lawn#id=62748&tab=most_recent)
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It seems very strange to me that Murray who has been with his lawyer all week, would go to Forrest Lawn to visit MJ's grave. His lawyer would tell him not to go near the grave site! This could be viewed as an admission of guilt. Either he has a really bad lawyer, or he ignored his advice or this is all part of the show.
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I know google very well and no, I don´t believe it´s my friend, sorry.
But it´s useful if you know how to use it without letting it use you.
What a coincidence, just like news!
And I cannot see any convincing source there to believe that Murray was linked to Brown.
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Sorry :shock: I´m amazed!
You mean that Murray was involved in all these deaths?
First time I know something like that.
Where can we find that information?
Yes, imo, Murray is a serial killer.....Google is your friend...conrad murray and james brown adrienne brown
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/i ... 49MxHWupvK (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_lJ761eLfXRzq49MxHWupvK)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... slept.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2568359/Aide-killed-Jacko-with-Demerol-hit-as-doctor-Conrad-Murray-slept.html)
http://www.digitalcheeseburger.com/2009 ... mes-brown/ (http://www.digitalcheeseburger.com/2009/08/03/dr-conrad-murray-linked-to-james-brown/)
What I want to know if why Joe Jackson recommend Murray to Michael when Michael returned to Vegas after Bahrain/Ireland?
:evil:
Your hypothesis is interesting and it's important to consider it. We can't rule this out nor can we rule out that Murray is really paid to work with MJ but drug trafficking among doctors is one issue that MJ is exposing nonetheless.
Murray at FL is befuddling no matter the reason.
If true, I didn't realize the depth of the connection to the Browns. Not sure of all the facts. Regardless, it hurts to see how rampant the drug trade is among our most trusted servants, doctors. We're seeing it everywhere - especially in the U.S. I pray that Michael has created the trap to expose it all. THIS IS IT. Perhaps Joe was helping to trap him and the storyline is just for others to think that Joe referred him to MJ but Joe was/is working with MJ, not against him.
Drug pushing by docs is really what the song Morphine refers to isn't it?
And, I know Michael is praying that this rampant disgrace "Be Not Always"
Let's reflect on MJ's message in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glOJh2JsU6c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glOJh2JsU6c)
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Sorry :shock: I´m amazed!
You mean that Murray was involved in all these deaths?
First time I know something like that.
Where can we find that information?
Yes, imo, Murray is a serial killer.....Google is your friend...conrad murray and james brown adrienne brown
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/i ... 49MxHWupvK (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_lJ761eLfXRzq49MxHWupvK)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... slept.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2568359/Aide-killed-Jacko-with-Demerol-hit-as-doctor-Conrad-Murray-slept.html)
http://www.digitalcheeseburger.com/2009 ... mes-brown/ (http://www.digitalcheeseburger.com/2009/08/03/dr-conrad-murray-linked-to-james-brown/)
What I want to know if why Joe Jackson recommend Murray to Michael when Michael returned to Vegas after Bahrain/Ireland?
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It's my understanding that it was actually one of Michael's body guards that recommended Murray. If I can find the video I'll post it.
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Can anyone explain this or please discount if not important...
I was looking at the photos of CM at FL noticing there were no natural shadows, must have been overcast that day. I could see yellow colors around Murray on the stone maybe indicating a flash used. Guess I was wanting to see if the photos were shop chopped.
I went to save one and this is an example of how the files are named
conrad_murray_michael_jackson_forest_lawn_01_0001_Layer_5_full.jpg
Is it just me or do you think the file names are just a tad bit long and what's up with the underscores between each word? Is this a professional way to save a file ? What would the word Layer refer to and why is it a capital letter L - Layer ?
I didn't keep track of each photo but I feel these photos are certainly posed for by the direction of where murray is looking.
Also I'm glad for the explanation of the serial killer visiting his victim I too thought of. On the other had if these photos were set up, staged, the reason may be to show Murray's remorse as last ditch effort to show his innocence, now that we know he is in a shit bucket of trouble with his record of involvement with James Brown.
LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED. Keep brainstorming people. No thought is to small to mention.......
xoxoxo
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Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
Souza suggested that Murray at FL is a big clue about Michael, but I also think that Murray's presence at FL is a big clue ....about Murray!
For those of you who believe that Michael hoaxed his death, and no matter what hoax theory you ascribe to, we can all agree that Michael, was and is, the Puppet Master.
We all know that Michael had a 'list'.
I think that Murray was on Michael's list because Murray was implicated in the deaths of James Brown and his wife Adrienne.I think that there is more to the Brown story (Brown found with guns in his possession when police chased him) and perhaps Murray was used as the tool to murder the Browns. Remember that Michael stayed by the casket of Brown for 5 hours or something....dear God in heaven, I can't imagine what went though Michael's mind, but it makes sense that Michael would want retribution for the loss of his idol.
The fact is that the Brown's deaths were attributed to drugs, ...and Murray was the doctor handing out those drugs. Murray used his medical degree as a license to kill. Was Murray on somebody's payroll or does he kill because he has something against entertainers? Wasn't Murray was also an actor at some point in his life?
Murray escaped jail time for the Brown's deaths. I wonder if we find out a list Murray's patients who died? How many entertainers would be on that list?
Why did Joe Jackson recommended Murray to Michael when Michael relocated to Vegas? :evil: :shock:
Afterwards, Michael insisted on Murray as his O2 tour doctor; which was bizzare, so I wondered if Michael was laying a trap for Murray?
Murray took the bait....and signed on as the O2 doc.
Set aside all the hoax 'conudrums', like whether the ambulance body was really a mannequin, or whether the coroner autopsied a terminal Double (reports were Katherine wanted a 3rd autopsy), etc etc....We know that Murray's phone records on June 25/09 proved that Murray was on the phone for 45 minutes before 911 call was placed...and that he called Houston (presumably to have those 2 ladies get rid of 'evidence')....Dileo at AEG....
Murray is finally going to stand trial for his improper use of drugs that kills people. Murray is deeper than a just a flake. Murray has killed before and this repeat behavior is called criminal recidivism. Michael won as he got retribution for James Brown by Murray's manslaughter? charge. ...and by raising public awareness of Dr. Feelgoods.
For many people, until Michael returns, FL is the 'focal point representative of Michael'.
Murray at FL was a dead giveaway, as he demonstrated the classic behavior of a criminal relieving his past crime/s.Doesn't Murray's involvement in the deaths of James Brown, Adrienne Brown...and 'Michael' essentially mean that Murray is a serial killer?
Murray at FL is shocking because his pictures gave us hard proof of his criminality. Murray looks 'posed' because he lacks emotion.
Behavioral profiling suggests that it is common for criminals to visit the 'graves' of those they killed so as to relieve their crime. The link below maybe a start point for those interested in exploring behavourial profiling.
http://www.criminalprofiling.ch/introduction.html (http://www.criminalprofiling.ch/introduction.html)
"Another typical denominator among future serial killers is low self-esteem and the habit of blaming the rest of the world for their situation. They will already have a criminal record and you may see a dishonorable discharge from the military because there will likely have been problems with any type of authority. The majority also have an abusive or dysfunctional background....As soon as several offenses, such as fires, stalking, or murder, are linked and attributed by the police to one and the same unknown suspect, it is crucial to look at his early crimes to determine where the suspect might live. In most cases, the offender starts out in his "comfort zone", which means close to where he lives or works, or where he feels emotionally comfortable, for example around his family or friends - that's why it's crucial to start with the early crimes of a suspect. As the self-confidence and obsession with his own "power" grows, so does his activity radius, making an arrest more difficult. Furthermore, in multiple homicides the killer is usually of the same race as his victim. In most cases, there is a triggering trauma leading to the escalation. The two most common precipitating stressors are loss of work or loss of love; but any type of hardship, particularly an economic one, can trigger the violent outburst. The stability that provided a certain pattern of life is suddenly taken away and nothing is holding him back from acting out his fantasies any longer."
Interpol offers interesting info as well.
http://www.interpol.int/ (http://www.interpol.int/)
Remember, the 7 dancers with the 'framed' picture of Michael... 'justice' is the 8th virtue.
8-)
two words: Well Done!
I had mentioned Murray's involvement with James Brown on MJKIT a while back.
Thanks for this info, this is definitely helpful.
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On the dateline special of MJ last night there was an magazine editor that stated the exact person who recommended Murray to Mj but I forget Who he said!
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He is charged with involuntary man slaughter and the cemetery isn't private. Look at his face in the pics, he is hurt by what has happened. He has the look of being remorseful.
MJ is dead people. It's all coming to an end. He will be charged, do his time and get back into society with whatever dignity he has left. If it wasn't him being MJ's physician, MJ had the means and the ways to get someone else. Money talks.
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Excuse me, I don't intend to be rude but congratulations for having posted a big whopping 3 times since your membership here.
This is still an investigation, the jury is not in yet, so hold your tongue please !
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He is charged with involuntary man slaughter and the cemetery isn't private. Look at his face in the pics, he is hurt by what has happened. He has the look of being remorseful.
MJ is dead people. It's all coming to an end. He will be charged, do his time and get back into society with whatever dignity he has left. If it wasn't him being MJ's physician, MJ had the means and the ways to get someone else. Money talks.
If you believe he is dead, and Murray is the killer, then why are you here ? :?
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Afterwards, Michael insisted on Murray as his O2 tour doctor; which was bizzare, so I wondered if Michael was laying a trap for Murray?
I like that, I like the way you're thinking there it's kinda outside the box. I think I will explore that avenue a little more. I found out lately that Murray had something to do with the Brown's death. :o
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One importatant question ::: WHy the hell is Murray still free if he is really what you say he is !!!And if he really did all these things ? I don't think this is true, I think murray is a part of the hoax..makes more sence ...
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I KNOW WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONRAD MURRAY VISITING AT FOREST LAWN.
THE THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MY MIND STRAIGHT AWAY, WAS,
THIS JUST PROVES THE HOAX THEORY IS REAL. HOW THE HELL, OR WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY LET A SUPPOSED MURDERER EVEN NEAR THE SUPPOSED RESTING PLACE OF HIS VICTIM? THINK ABOUT IT. LOOK AT ALL OTHER CASES OF OTHER MURDERERS. DID THEY EVER VISIT THE VICTIMS BODY? THIS MORE THAN EVER, PROVES THAT IT IS A BIG CLUE TO THE FANS.. THAT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN WITH THE HEAVY SECURITY. SO LOOK AT IT, IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. NOT MANY PEOPLE CAN GET NEAR THE RESTING PLACE UNLESS THEIR NAME IS ON A LIST FIRST...........AT TMZ LIVE VIDEOS, THEY ANSWER ALL THE CONRAD MURRAY QUESTIONS IN GREAT DETAIL, YET THEY WIZZED THROUGH THE OTHER QUESTIONS VERY QUICKLY.
THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.........HUMM. WONDER WHY. THESE ARE THE FACTS. THERE IS NO WAY DR CM COULD HAVE EVEN GOT CLOSE TO FL.
UNLESS, HE WAS GIVEN PERMISSION FROM MJ PERSONALLY.
That's exactly what I was saying. Why would he even be allowed near the premises? This is not your ordinary funeral home. This is a place where famous celebrities are laid to rest. Also how convient that the camera just happen to be there when he arrives. Someone in a different forum said he went to the wrong Forest Lawn but I don't know if that is true or not?
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
I was looking at the TMZ article and there is also a picture. I found two things interesting and both were brought up in the comments for that article. First, someone said Dr Murray wasn't at the right building. I don't know if it's true because I have never been there to know how it should look. Secondly, this next part is taken from the article...
Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.
Murray was seen outside the mausoleum, but not inside.
http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/ (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/)
I thought, and so did a whole lot of others, this part about "the man he may or may not have accidentally killed." is really interesting. It gives me the impression that TMZ may have more information. If they don't - they should be really ashamed of themselves for placing doubt and confusion in the minds of others. That would be to Dr Murray's benefit come court day.
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Guys, I want justice for Michael as much as any of you, but let's not forget that in this country everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Let's just see how this unfolds and pray that we are right in believing in this hoax.
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I was looking through the photographs of CM not sure how the photographer got inside to take the photographs but found one which I find interesting it is a close up of a stone tablet book on a page which reads
Sanctuary of brotherly love?
Just wondering if this is significant :?
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_ ... ost_recent (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murray_michael_jackson_forest_lawn#id=62748&tab=most_recent)
Thanks!! ;)
I really think this book is a clue?????
Thanks for your help :)
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One importatant question ::: WHy the hell is Murray still free if he is really what you say he is !!!And if he really did all these things ? I don't think this is true, I think murray is a part of the hoax..makes more sence ...
unless the evidence is weak
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What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic ;)
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
Oh yes, it's very interesting!
And plus, it seems he was posing for GQ in the pics... for God's sake!!!!
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What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic ;)
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
Oh yes, it's very interesting!
And plus, it seems he was posing for GQ in the pics... for God's sake!!!!
I agree!! And OMG, this thread is great, I learned so much! I had no idea about Murray's history.. the James Brown thing is crazy... O_o this is insane!
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This link is very interesting!! Showing video footage of Murray at FL & also stating the fans that recorded the video of LOVE for Michael for Valentines day were there at the same time!!! :shock:
Now something is just not right with the way Murray is looking into the camera!! :?
http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti ... ayflg.html (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/2010/02/conradmurrayflg.html)
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
I was looking at the TMZ article and there is also a picture. I found two things interesting and both were brought up in the comments for that article. First, someone said Dr Murray wasn't at the right building. I don't know if it's true because I have never been there to know how it should look. Secondly, this next part is taken from the article...
Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.
Murray was seen outside the mausoleum, but not inside.
http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/ (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/)
I thought, and so did a whole lot of others, this part about "the man he may or may not have accidentally killed." is really interesting. It gives me the impression that TMZ may have more information. If they don't - they should be really ashamed of themselves for placing doubt and confusion in the minds of others. That would be to Dr Murray's benefit come court day.
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Guys, I want justice for Michael as much as any of you, but let's not forget that in this country everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Let's just see how this unfolds and pray that we are right in believing in this hoax.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I am a huge advocate of being innocent until proven guilty and I remind people of that all of the time. My statement was in no way slanted towards injustice toward Dr Murray. I hope Michael is alive, and I don't know the level of Dr Murray's involvement, really. The point I was trying to make is that we don't need the media persuading the public one way or the other. They should stick to only the facts, not speculation. Blessings.
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Murray is not real guys, it's a charachter, a symbol for the bigger picture.
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Murray is not real guys, it's a charachter, a symbol for the bigger picture.
Totally! He hasn't done anything to James Brown! Are those really reliable sites you guys are getting that from? He's not real!
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This link is very interesting!! Showing video footage of Murray at FL & also stating the fans that recorded the video of LOVE for Michael for Valentines day were there at the same time!!! :shock:
Now something is just not right with the way Murray is looking into the camera!! :?
http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti ... ayflg.html (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/2010/02/conradmurrayflg.html)
I wonder what they meant when they said the DA met with Katherine and Jermaine to go over details of the case so they will not be caught off guard when the charges are filed?!
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This stuff is getting ridiculous...
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:geek: :geek: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :o :o :o :D :D :D IT IS NOT THE SAME ENTRANCE ON THE ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT VIDEO AS IT IS ON THE JACKSON FAMILY DYNASTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
look:
at 0:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8TUbyf ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8TUbyfC38&feature=player_embedded)
and at 5:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWhZt0T ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWhZt0Tj-Q&feature=related)
Check it out peeps!!!!!! L.O.V.E
Holla
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Is there any picture of CM being in FL? I mean we can't believe everything that has been written, right?
But if CM really visited FL that could be a big clue, maybe he was trying to resuscitate MJ :lol:
I was looking at the TMZ article and there is also a picture. I found two things interesting and both were brought up in the comments for that article. First, someone said Dr Murray wasn't at the right building. I don't know if it's true because I have never been there to know how it should look.
I don't know if this has been answered already, but I had it confirmed by a friend who has been there twice...he is sitting in front of the wrong building.
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I am not sure which one is the right one.....but they are not the same for sure!!!
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National Photo Group :lol: :lol: :arrow: ;)
Ben Evenstad and Christopher Weiss! :lol: :lol: :lol: I can smell the hoax!
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Can anyone explain this or please discount if not important...
I was looking at the photos of CM at FL noticing there were no natural shadows, must have been overcast that day. I could see yellow colors around Murray on the stone maybe indicating a flash used. Guess I was wanting to see if the photos were shop chopped.
I went to save one and this is an example of how the files are named
conrad_murray_michael_jackson_forest_lawn_01_0001_Layer_5_full.jpg
Is it just me or do you think the file names are just a tad bit long and what's up with the underscores between each word? Is this a professional way to save a file ? What would the word Layer refer to and why is it a capital letter L - Layer ?
I didn't keep track of each photo but I feel these photos are certainly posed for by the direction of where murray is looking.
Also I'm glad for the explanation of the serial killer visiting his victim I too thought of. On the other had if these photos were set up, staged, the reason may be to show Murray's remorse as last ditch effort to show his innocence, now that we know he is in a shit bucket of trouble with his record of involvement with James Brown.
LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED. Keep brainstorming people. No thought is to small to mention.......
xoxoxo
You´ve got a point....
layer is simply one image stacked on top of another. Imagine I have a piece of paper and I paint it red. Then I take a peice of clear celophaine and paint a yellow circle, and lay it over the paper. Now I take another peice of cellophane and paint some blue type and laythat on top of the yellow circle. I now have a background (red) and 2 layers (yellow and blue.)
A background with 2 layers.
This is how your image with would look on the screen or when printed. (1)
Broken apart so you can see how the layers work
Each layer stacks on top of the previous one.
That is it! The concept of layers is that simple. Photoshop uses the Layers Pallete to allow you to do this with your images. More than one layer is called a composition.
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What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic ;)
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
Oh yes, it's very interesting!
And plus, it seems he was posing for GQ in the pics... for God's sake!!!!
"Hey Murray come on, let your body move to the music , strike a pose, vogue .. vogue, take your chance and shimmer !" said the photograher ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic ;)
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
Oh yes, it's very interesting!
And plus, it seems he was posing for GQ in the pics... for God's sake!!!!
Dr Murray is part-time actor and he knows how to pose; a real hot model !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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What is more interesting, is the company that provided the pictures, it's the same as from the ambulance pic ;)
Also, why the hell would Murray pose for that many pictures? No pap has been able to take a normal pic of him and this guy gets the exclusive? Think about that.
Oh yes, it's very interesting!
And plus, it seems he was posing for GQ in the pics... for God's sake!!!!
Dr Murray is part-time actor and he knows how to pose; a real hot model !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And with that accent.. DAYUM! 8-)
:| jk
EDIT: But what could those layers have meant? It's not like they could have added anything significant. Like a murder weapon. :lol:
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That is exactly what I thought Layering meant on the photo file name. I would imagine that everyone has their own system for file naming photos. When I noticed the file name we were wondering who may have taken the photos of Murray. Shit, now there is a video too.
There are too many Rat Scums in this game trying to trip us up. Sorting out the Rat Scums into Rat Scum Packs may be found interesting and help make sense of things. I don't know, may be a waste of time too.
It's very suspicious the long stretch of no new photos of anyone, now suddenly a movie of events is rolling faster then we can keep up with. So glad we have some fans out there walkin the beat for us.
Oh, BTW that photo of MJ in front of the Tii neon sign in the post above....I don't think that's his real ear :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I really don't !!! It has to be a layered chopped pic..............
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The video I saw it was made with pictures.... I didn´t see one with video images? there is one???
Anyway layers can be use in video too....
Is it probable then that murray wasn´t there???? I read in one of the post that some fans were there that day... all day and didn´t see him, but they did see the photographers..... and thinking about how the pictures were out some days later..... hmmmmm maybe they were working in post production....
sounds like "wow this is too much" :lol: but nothing would surprise me now....
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http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunti ... ayflg.html (http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/2010/02/conradmurrayflg.html)
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It was clearly a photo opportunity ,don't u think they knew he was not going to be able to get in ? Of course they did ,dosen't everyone know this . It is an attempt to get sympathy from the public .It seems as tho Dateline were siding with Murray too ,why such a nasty report ? To sway the public opinion that Mj was responsible for his own death ? Seem to me this was what they set out to do with the Dateline report . Smacks of conspiracy . That MJ was dr shopping ,what does this imply , that he is responsible for his own death, which happens to be Murray's defense stratagy . What a coincidence .
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http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/2010/02/conradmurrayflg.html
Thank you! well.. in fact there are less than ten seconds of video..... they repeat the same image over and over..... it´s strange.....
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http://lisaburks.typepad.com/gravehunting/2010/02/conradmurrayflg.html
Souza thanks for that! :)
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OR!!! If there is no hoax and no escape..MJ may have comitted suicide and Murray is taking the fall.....I have heard rumors that this may have been a SUICIDE cover up. However, I am very open to a hoax/escape theory..
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The video I saw it was made with pictures.... I didn´t see one with video images? there is one???
Anyway layers can be use in video too....
Is it probable then that murray wasn´t there???? I read in one of the post that some fans were there that day... all day and didn´t see him, but they did see the photographers..... and thinking about how the pictures were out some days later..... hmmmmm maybe they were working in post production....
sounds like "wow this is too much" :lol: but nothing would surprise me now....
I agree with you....I just can't believe CM was really there. I'm sure the photographers were there to capture layer 1 of the pics/video but the pics/video of CM walking, sitting, etc....could have been taken anywhere and layered onto the originals. I just have a feeling CM is a much larger character in this entire hoax. My imagination pictures him and his camera crew filming all sorts of things that will be released in the end showing the world how this entire hoax panned out. I imagine the filming began on 6/25 (the missing videos from MJ's house) then filming of CM and "behind the scenes" footage continues with him being seen out with lawyer, holding "Miami Babylon" book, at child support hearing, etc.....but I imagine there's footage of him on phone/online receiving advice from his "director" and then him typing online in hoax forums, on TIAI, Twitter, who knows?!?! I just think there's NO way he's been sitting alone in a dark room for 7 months. The info thrown out to media that his camera crew is due to a reality show is probably a cover-up....although, the Hoax is very similar to a VERY LONG reality show/game.
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I believe that it rained all week in CA, there is no rain in the pic.
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OMG, keeping track of the weather is a very good point !!! I'm down in Fl and don't pay attention to the West coast weather.
I ruled out suicide long ago. The thought ran across my mind MJ may have injected himself while Murray's back was turned, since Murray said he was weaning him off the stuff, and MJ may have been desperate, but knowing MJs love for his kids and they were right downstairs for God's sake and it was a short hours before needing to be at rehearsal I DON"T THINK SUICIDE was a real choice in his mind.
I still think in that time frame it was show time, time to get the game rolling and MJ may not have even been there, that is why Murray was relaxed enough to leave the room or leave the house.
SHIT, DANG IT, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED BECAUSE ALL THE STORIES ARE SO CONFLICTING, NOBODY IS TALKING AND WE WERE NOT THERE.
I cannot go through another day of speculation. I have to wait to hear if Murray is taken down today and go from there.
Wishing all a better Monday :P :|
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