Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: rowdyangel on February 07, 2010, 06:14:46 AM
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You may remember I said the other day that Karen Faye accepted my friend request on Facebook.
I was lurking around in there last night and on Twitter and some of the stuff I read was awful. Someone Tweeted Kenny saying that they hope he coughs to death. This was in response to a Tweet Kenny made about him having bronchitis. Kenny saw that Tweet and he re-tweeted it to all of his followers. The Tweet to Kenny was from 'SoulCatharsis' AKA Samantha De Gosson.
SoulCatharsis -
@KennyOrtegaBlog hope you cough to death!
about 8 hours ago from web in reply to KennyOrtegaBlog
Retweeted by KennyOrtegaBlog and 14 others
I have also seen on KF's Facebook 2 other people saying things like "..wait until Kenny gets to my town!" and "I hope the same to Kenny, he deserves to die!!"
WTF? These people are mental!!!!! Michael would not want them to be saying such things, he would be mortified. These are not fans - they are stalkers, obsessives!! :evil:
It sickens me to the pit of my stomach that people who claim to love Michael so much can act in this way. There will be protests going on at the courthouse tomorrow and I am so worried that someone will end up getting hurt.
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Here's another Tweet from SoulCatharis but not sent to Kenny, just on her Twitter page.
Kenny Ortega didn't have the balls to delete me yet, he wnts to hear it again: MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!
about 6 hours ago from web
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i've noticed this WTH is going on, have i missed something!! :shock:
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i've noticed this WTH is going on, have i missed something!! :shock:
I'm really worried about this. I don't know if she's a member on here and TBH I don't care. There is no excuse for this.
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i've noticed this WTH is going on, have i missed something!! :shock:
I'm really worried about this. I don't know if she's a member on here and TBH I don't care. There is no excuse for this.
This is disgusting. If they are doing this in the name of Michael, they are doing it all wrong. :(
I'm really hoping this whole ordeal doesn't become violent.
If I was Michael, I'd be scared to come back to this.
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i've looked at her picture on twitter and i'm sure she looks like one of the fans who used to wait for michael outside wherever he was, do you remember the photo's we had on the old forum with the fan letters expressing their concern for him etc
things are getting scary, i don't think anyone should be spoken to like that or have things written about them like that!!
not nice!!
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i've looked at her picture on twitter and i'm sure she looks like one of the fans who used to wait for michael outside wherever he was, do you remember the photo's we had on the old forum with the fan letters expressing their concern for him etc
things are getting scary, i don't think anyone should be spoken to like that or have things written about them like that!!
not nice!!
Yes she is a 'follower'. More like a stalker IMHO!!
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what did Kenny do again?????
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what did Kenny do again?????
nothing as far as i know, think this person is just a WEIRDO!!
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Poor Kenny
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He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me!
I mean.. he was never mean to Michael, took him to movies.
Why would anyone wanna hurt little 'ol kenny? :?
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Oh, boy....not Kenny...I think he is so kind and loving, these people need to take it out on someone else like Tom Sneddon or Arvizo family, not Kenny, unless they know something we don't but even so, Kenny is just player. If anyone exploited MJ to death I am sure that would be a corporation behind it, not one person.
I don't like when people become animals but they were never loud before....
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Okay that is way out of line, it is disgusting to say something like that to a person. I don't know what she was thinking but I advice her to first think twice before saying something like that!
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I think Michael needed to get away from those stalkers.
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what did Kenny do again?????
nothing as far as i know, think this person is just a WEIRDO!!
EXACTLY! i feel so lost when i see "fans" of Michael who can actually talk like that to others... where is all the dignity?
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These people are sick :? I mean it
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Here's another Tweet from SoulCatharis but not sent to Kenny, just on her Twitter page.
Kenny Ortega didn't have the balls to delete me yet, he wnts to hear it again: MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!
about 6 hours ago from web
I ahve just mentioned her sorry did not see youyrs this person says she is Micahel sfan why is she behaving like this my god Michael never behaved like this he would be upset by this I know i am and Kenny is in danger with this lot of weirdos around him I hope he will be ok this is worrying
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These people are sick :? I mean it
I agree...
I've just tweeted a nice thing to Kenny and hope it helps a little... :(
But I think and hope that he is used to that kind of stupidity and doesn't really care anyway.
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He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me!
I mean.. he was never mean to Michael, took him to movies.
Why would anyone wanna hurt little 'ol kenny? :?
Well actually there's still a lot of debate about what went on in rehearsals and how fit MJ was realistically to complete this. Kenny said about MJ 'mentally and physically, we're having a blast'.......right! In June, Kai Chase (his chef) said she was called back to Jackson's home to cook for him again. She said she noticed he was thinner and questioned whether he had been eating. MJ said to her 'I need you to take care of me, i need you to feed me healthy like you have been......they're killing me, they're rehearsing me very hard, maybe 2 rehearsals a day.' Listen carefully to how Kai Chase recounts what he said and the emotion she uses. It sounded like he was actually distressed. Listen from 0 - 1.30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4F ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4FtkY&feature=related)
Is Kenny not employed by AEG (Randy his boss)? If so, there could be a limit on what he can say about anything, particularly if it puts AEG in a negative light. Yes, he was director/choreographer for TII, but if something was wrong he had a pair of eyes too, and he should tell the truth to those who deserve it regardless of what it does to his relationship with AEG.
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;) I just tweeted him a little love too.
Holy crap. i haven't slept in 22 hours. Dang you hoax forum! (shakes fist)
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He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me!
I mean.. he was never mean to Michael, took him to movies.
Why would anyone wanna hurt little 'ol kenny? :?
Well actually there's still a lot of debate about what went on in rehearsals and how fit MJ was realistically to complete this. Kenny said about MJ 'mentally and physically, we're having a blast'.......right! In June, Kai Chase (his chef) said she was called back to Jackson's home to cook for him again. She said she noticed he was thinner and questioned whether he had been eating. MJ said to her 'I need you to take care of me, i need you to feed me healthy like you have been......they're killing me, they're rehearsing me very hard, maybe 2 rehearsals a day.' Listen carefully to how Kai Chase recounts what he said and the emotion she uses. It sounded like he was actually distressed. Listen from 0 - 1.30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4F ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4FtkY&feature=related)
Is Kenny not employed by AEG (Randy his boss)? If so, there could be a limit on what he can say about anything, particularly if it puts AEG in a negative light. Yes, he was director/choreographer for TII, but if something was wrong he had a pair of eyes too, and he should tell the truth to those who deserve it regardless of what it does to his relationship with AEG.
Fair point BUT it doesn't justify people calling KO a murderer on Twitter and Facebook and sending him Tweets which say this.
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they're killing me, they're rehearsing me very hard
But I thought Michael was a perfectionist!
And with all the exercising he was doing, eating more sounds logical.
:|
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In my opinion it´s absolutely horrible and wrong that someone tweets, says or whatever to kenny.
I´m still thinking he´s a nice and loyal guy. But in that point..
Yes, he was director/choreographer for TII, but if something was wrong he had a pair of eyes too, and he should tell the truth to those who deserve it regardless of what it does to his relationship with AEG.
.. I quite agree.
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He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me!
I mean.. he was never mean to Michael, took him to movies.
Why would anyone wanna hurt little 'ol kenny? :?
Well actually there's still a lot of debate about what went on in rehearsals and how fit MJ was realistically to complete this. Kenny said about MJ 'mentally and physically, we're having a blast'.......right! In June, Kai Chase (his chef) said she was called back to Jackson's home to cook for him again. She said she noticed he was thinner and questioned whether he had been eating. MJ said to her 'I need you to take care of me, i need you to feed me healthy like you have been......they're killing me, they're rehearsing me very hard, maybe 2 rehearsals a day.' Listen carefully to how Kai Chase recounts what he said and the emotion she uses. It sounded like he was actually distressed. Listen from 0 - 1.30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4F ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4FtkY&feature=related)
Is Kenny not employed by AEG (Randy his boss)? If so, there could be a limit on what he can say about anything, particularly if it puts AEG in a negative light. Yes, he was director/choreographer for TII, but if something was wrong he had a pair of eyes too, and he should tell the truth to those who deserve it regardless of what it does to his relationship with AEG.
you have a very good point I know we all think this is a hoax but there is a possibly that this could be real and if so a lot more people should be held responsible than just Murray we can clear see he was not as healthy as he should have been and Kenny knew as well so I can see why they are reacting this way but it is still wrong
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I've just tweeted a nice thing to Kenny and hope it helps a little... :(
;) I just tweeted him a little love too.
amazing.... that's what Michael taught us. :) i don't use twitter that much, i just logged in today to send poor Kenny a little love as well.
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These people are irrational. Don't they realize Michael would be repulsed by them and their actions? Some great fan they are.
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Inorite? Whenever I post something, I imagine Michael reading it. I dunno. It just helps me be nicer. :)
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It's horrible. This kind of thing makes me think that if MJ is really alive, and if it was all a hoax, he will feel the need to reappear. Would he just sit and see his friend being insulted and accused? Would he just sit and see the doctor (if not arrested) being the target of angry fans for the rest of his life? I don't think so. This kind of thing makes me sad and worried.
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What really saddens me is that he might not want to come back. :cry:
So many horrible people are making it hard to return.
I know I'd be scared if I was him. But he's so much stronger than me, so who knows?
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It's horrible. This kind of thing makes me think that if MJ is really alive, and if it was all a hoax, he will feel the need to reappear. Would he just sit and see his friend being insulted and accused? Would he just sit and see the doctor (if not arrested) being the target of angry fans for the rest of his life? I don't think so. This kind of thing makes me sad and worried.
I agree. I think that if something kicks off tomorrow (someone tries to hurt Murray or a member of his legal team) I fear it is game over. No way would Michael stand by and watch that sort of thing happen. :(
Mind you, on TINI Facebook site there are people advising the protesters to behave and stay within the law. Whether or not this will sort I don't know.
"For those who will be at the Protest against Murray,on Monday Feb.8th we'd kindly ask you not to put youselves in jeopardy in front of the media & the authorities; protest in the smoothest way possible,so they'll see we can't accept this garbage anymore but we are quiet people and want Justice only! Pls, keep on signing our Petition http://www.petitiononline.com/TINIxMJ/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/TINIxMJ/petition.html) we'll bring it to LAPD and D.A."
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Childish behavior.. People judge other without knowing ANYTHING!
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He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me!
I mean.. he was never mean to Michael, took him to movies.
Why would anyone wanna hurt little 'ol kenny? :?
Well actually there's still a lot of debate about what went on in rehearsals and how fit MJ was realistically to complete this. Kenny said about MJ 'mentally and physically, we're having a blast'.......right! In June, Kai Chase (his chef) said she was called back to Jackson's home to cook for him again. She said she noticed he was thinner and questioned whether he had been eating. MJ said to her 'I need you to take care of me, i need you to feed me healthy like you have been......they're killing me, they're rehearsing me very hard, maybe 2 rehearsals a day.' Listen carefully to how Kai Chase recounts what he said and the emotion she uses. It sounded like he was actually distressed. Listen from 0 - 1.30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4F ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4FtkY&feature=related)
Is Kenny not employed by AEG (Randy his boss)? If so, there could be a limit on what he can say about anything, particularly if it puts AEG in a negative light. Yes, he was director/choreographer for TII, but if something was wrong he had a pair of eyes too, and he should tell the truth to those who deserve it regardless of what it does to his relationship with AEG.
This is exactly what I've been thinking about but it still doesn't justify this kind of behaviour. Besides why are they putting so much blaim on Kenny, how about AEG? I know they are questioning them but I guess blaiming one person, i.e Kenny, is easier but very horrible too! I read an interview where a friend of Michael said that when Michael would prepare for a tour he'd be so focused he'd even forget to eat and drink which would explain what Michael said to Kai. However, when he said THEY*RE rehearsing me very hard... :( That makes me really worried and upset :cry:
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I don't mean to sound ignorant, but why is Kenny a "murderer"? Are they saying he is the one that pushed MJ into all the concerts and he was the one who had the connection with CM? Are they upset that he had TII made into a movie for all of us to see?
WTH is going on?
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for us believers we have a strong belief that michael is alive. but for those who actually believed he died they feel that there is no one person to blame and each person involved in michaels death are murders and they are capitlizing off his death so they all play a part.
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Another Tweet to Kenny for SoulCatharsis:
@KennyOrtegaBlog Hope you get a relapse!
21 minutes ago from web in reply to KennyOrtegaBlog
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And these people claim to be fans of Michael :x
If they were real fans they would no that Michael hated fighting of any kind, verbal or physical.
Poor Kenny, He done nothing too upset this person
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You may remember I said the other day that Karen Faye accepted my friend request on Facebook.
I was lurking around in there last night and on Twitter and some of the stuff I read was awful. Someone Tweeted Kenny saying that they hope he coughs to death. This was in response to a Tweet Kenny made about him having bronchitis. Kenny saw that Tweet and he re-tweeted it to all of his followers. The Tweet to Kenny was from 'SoulCatharsis' AKA Samantha De Gosson.
SoulCatharsis -
@KennyOrtegaBlog hope you cough to death!
about 8 hours ago from web in reply to KennyOrtegaBlog
Retweeted by KennyOrtegaBlog and 14 others
I have also seen on KF's Facebook 2 other people saying things like "..wait until Kenny gets to my town!" and "I hope the same to Kenny, he deserves to die!!"
WTF? These people are mental!!!!! Michael would not want them to be saying such things, he would be mortified. These are not fans - they are stalkers, obsessives!! :evil:
It sickens me to the pit of my stomach that people who claim to love Michael so much can act in this way. There will be protests going on at the courthouse tomorrow and I am so worried that someone will end up getting hurt.
your right, michael had nothing but respect for kenny he would not want this, especially cominf from his own make up artists, these people are vultures, if anyone is to blame it should be murray, wtf does kenny have to do with it, all he did was be kind and there for michael which is more than i can say for karen, shes just a brat who thinks shes super close to michael but really isnt shes a make up artist its her job thats it lol. and this other girl needs to get herself checked in to some serious help :)
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This is turning into a nightmare.
If we think for a minute MJ is dead... then I want a fair and civilised legal trial of Dr Murray and others... i dont want a frenzied media circus and fantatical fans hijacking the process.
We need to hear the TRUTH!!!!!!
Thing is the media will jump all over this and portray all MJ fans as mad, rabid people who dont think rationally and issue threats to people who were close to MJ.
MJ would be APPALLED at this, as i am. This is NOT his message... his message was love and forgiveness and understanding.
The fans need to be intelligent at this... and spamming the LAPD and DA is NOT the way forward. We want the police and the justice system on OUR side.
To be honest, it is becoming embarassing.
Ive also tweeted Kenny my thoughts and urged him to remember Karen Faye and Samantha De Gossen to not represent the majority of MJ fans.
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This is the crap that really irks me! If Karen is a character in this hoax, why is she;
1. Accepting gifts from ppl all over the world? (possibly from ppl that do not have the extra money to spare on gifts)
2. Allowing and promoting a person to spread ignorant and possibly harmful venom via social media, which could possibly end up with someone seriously injured or killed?
I have been on her FB since July, don't write much there but have been eerily amazed at the cult-like atmosphere that has been created! Where is the L.O.V.E. in revenge? I am sorry but I have not found this to be a 'great adventure', more like a nightmare that we may never wake up from...I used to enjoy looking for clues and now find myself frustrated and agitated by all the inconsistencies and hold-ups.
Whatever happens, I pray that this was all worth it and that in the end we may all find happiness and peace with one another and most importantly within ourselves...namaste
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It is KF creating a storm in a glass of water... that is what she does best... and some ppl believe everything she says because she makes a big deal out of claiming that she was a friend of MJ's... in my eyes she isn't his friend... because with friends like that who needs enemies??
and when she says that Kenny Otega Killed MJ her followers believe it... :roll:
This is it is a wonderful movie and a great way of giving us a little bit of MJ ( im still waiting for the Blue Ray to be released here... 23 feb. if i remember right :? you guys are soo lucky that it is already out in USA.. ) No matter were the money goes..
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i've noticed this WTH is going on, have i missed something!! :shock:
I must have missed this too. This is crazy! :o :shock:
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WHAT??? :shock: Some people are just CRAZY!!!!
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In May, Kenny Ortega and Randy Phillips released a press conference video stating why the concerts were put back and other things. The whole video was about 8 mins long i think, can someone please find it because i cannot. This will help - http://www.maximum-jackson.com/main/ind ... itstart=16 (http://www.maximum-jackson.com/main/index.php?limitstart=16)
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These people are really sick,their "love" for Michael has turned into a dangerous obsession,i'm really worried that smth teribble will hapen to Murray during the trial,one of the upset fans may hurt him very badly(believin' in hoax we consider that Murray is innocent),so about Kenny-he's really a very nice guy, Michael liked him and was close to him, it's ridiculous to call him a murderer,all this hate is not what Michael's nature and soul is,he is love and those fans must be ashamed of how disrespectful they are to Michael's friends,now i really don't think that Michael will return, just consider how furious those fans will be, they'll tear him up :( i just hope that nothing terrible will happen these days.I just pray to God to take care for Michael, i suppose he needs it now so much
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" Childish behavior.. People judge other without knowing ANYTHING!"
Ahhh and this is the important thing to remember!
Nobody actually knows anything! All speculation.
I'll tweet a nice note to KO too.
What is wrong with people, other than they just don't ever learn.
L*O*V*E is the answer and why is hate taking over???
Michael is very disappointed I'm sure.
I Love you Michael!
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It was not Mj 's fans that were percicuting him it was The ELITE ,THE MEDIA ,{Owned by the elite }the LAPD and the DA office also owned by the elite ,as is our GOV . The Gov that Promotes and funds wars and human suffering all over the world ,and they wanted to shut Mj up like that shut up JFK , MLK , Malcom X , Tupac ,Bob Marly .And Lennon Anyone that threatens their agenda or threatens to expose their agenda will suffer . They don't want Michael" Waking up " millions of people and telling them what is Really going on in this country ,that our Gov is responsible for genocide on a massive scale . That's why MJ;s real freinds won't speak up in his defense . THEY ARE SCARED TOO ! people may die trying to expose what really happened to Mj that started a long time ago . What is in the rest of the 600 or so pages of the FBI report on MJ that is "permanately Classified" why ? What is in those files that we are not allowed to know ? They use Mj for their own agenda Like Global warming for example ,are you all familiar with Climate gate? {Earth song Grammys } Yes we need to protect our planet . But .. are you aware of the BIG BIZ of carbon industry , that the elite stand to make millions off of these Carbon related products SEE LORD MONKTON ON U_TUBE } They are Twisting Mj's message to serve there own agenda , Mj was against war too and you see how they avoided that issue of the song . He shows war and suffering on the films he made with his concerts not just the Global warming thing . Did you know that Green peace is run and funded by the Rockafellers who are the ones that stand to make money off of the Global warming scare Al Gore has also invested in these co .planning to make millions which includes and will cause mass starvation all over the world ,thus controlling the population . This whole thing with Mj is way more sinister than alot of people think on here
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kelly wright sorry, but I don't understand how is all this related to Kenny Ortega and those disrespectful tweets where some "fan" thinks that has the right to accuse and judge without bringing one single proof to sustain those accusations.
Do you think or anyone thinks that these are MJ' s views about JUSTICE? Didn't he said always no one must be condamned/judged/accused based on the false allegations or based on lack of evidence.
All you write here we know, I assume many of us are informed or can find the ways to be informed. Nobody denied that these are real problems of the whole world and are coming from the past not only in present times.
The rest of FBI files are not 600 pages, are some of 300.Maybe, I don't know, but maybe are MJ's meetings with presidents and high officials and these can't be expose to the public.
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Sorry, I don't mean to sound dumb, But I Don't understand..........Why are people so angry and Kenny Ortega??????
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It is KF creating a storm in a glass of water... that is what she does best... and some ppl believe everything she says because she makes a big deal out of claiming that she was a friend of MJ's... in my eyes she isn't his friend... because with friends like that who needs enemies??
and when she says that Kenny Otega Killed MJ her followers believe it... :roll:
This is it is a wonderful movie and a great way of giving us a little bit of MJ ( im still waiting for the Blue Ray to be released here... 23 feb. if i remember right :? you guys are soo lucky that it is already out in USA.. ) No matter were the money goes..
But they are also having a go at karen faye just seen it kenny realy bad alot of hate tonught on twitter I am glad I wont be there tommorow
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imabeliever2 I can't either understand how a MJ's fan can accuse Kenny Ortega or anybody but bring no proof, using those ugly words, making him a murderer only because this is what she believes. We can believe anything, but when we point the finger to somebody we must prove by facts, documents, all kind of evidence, we can't play with the words, words hurt!
MJ' s quote:
You know, don't judge a person, do not pass judgement, unless you have talked to them one on one. I don't care what the story is, do not judge them because it is a lie.
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imabeliever2 I can't either understand how a MJ's fan can accuse Kenny Ortega or anybody but bring no proof, using those ugly words, making him a murderer only because this is what she believes. We can believe anything, but when we point the finger to somebody we must prove by facts, documents, all kind of evidence, we can't play with the words, words hurt!
MJ' s quote:
You know, don't judge a person, do not pass judgement, unless you have talked to them one on one. I don't care what the story is, do not judge them because it is a lie.
Thank you Akiraka.........That is very wrong of them and its embarrasing as a fan to hear other fans talk and act like that. I didn't understand all the rage because he seemed to be one of the few who really had Michael's back.
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i tweeted him two times poor guy,
even when i believe that Michael was dead and people were talking bad about Murray i would always say "you should wish bad things to happen to people b/c you are just bringing your self lower. but i believe that one day he will get what's coming to him weather it be here or in the after life"
and when there was a thread that said the we should have a party b/c Even Chandler kill himself i was like "it's not right to be happy over someone's death, he did have a family and i am sure that they are very sad right now"
Even lived with his demons and it final took him over.
but that's just the way i am. i don;t thank that you should wish bad things on people, and that they will one day pay up for what they did. i thank that if you live with so much hate and anger that it will over run your life. you need to let things pass. i do not thank that if in fact Michael did die that anyone meant to kill him, and i thank that as long as they know what they did and are truly sorry for it and will have to live their lives with that pain, that's the most worst punishment of all.
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KennyOrtegaBlog
I feel the love and send you all love and appreciation for your continuous kind thoughts and encouraging words Blessings :)
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I feel the love and send you all love and appreciation for your continuous kind thoughts and encouraging words Blessings :)
Yes, this is Kenny Ortega a Real Gentleman and MJ's friend for so many years. L.O.V.E. to Him and MJ ;)
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I had no idea that Kenny Ortaga worked for Randy Phillips. Again, I definitely don't agree nor do I approve of anyone talking to anyone like that (including fans) but doesn't this sound strange (the last sentence)??????
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Jackson-film-to-get-October-release-618037.html
Michael Jackson - Jackson Survived On One Meal A Day
Michael Jackson was so worried about his looming comeback tour he often forgot to eat, according to the show's promoter. The King Of Pop was booked to do 50 gigs at London's O2 arena, kicking off later this month (Jul09) and running into next year (10), and was in vigorous rehearsals for the spectacular shows before his death last week (25Jun09). The show's director Kenny Ortega and AEG Live's boss Randy Phillips were keeping an eye on the star's food intake in the days leading up to his death...
??? Have we not see pics. of all the weight Michael lost before June 25, so what were they doing and how were they watching????
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When reading about the KO 'feeding' MJ i noticed something, they said he would cut up chicken and broccoli for him and physically feed him because he was so weak.... broccoli? BROCOLLI?!?! As some of you may or may not know, MJ hated broccoli! look for the hidden clues people ;)
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imabeliever2 first of all I want to say that Kenny Ortega worked for MJ, because MJ called him, wanted him and nobody else, as he called him years ago for History and Dangerous Tour.
“It has been over a decade since Michael and I worked on the HIStory tour together."
about TII :
"We had been in discussion in the last couple of years about finding a new project to work on. When I got the call to join him for these concerts I was in-between gigs, catching my breath"
Michael and Kenny are creating an escapist adventure that will take the audience on an entertainment experience only imagined in dreams or big budget motion pictures. This is the perfect pairing on unique creative talents with the greatest repertoire in contemporary music."
"I am thrilled to be a part of the team that once again is bringing Michael Jackson, the greatest entertainer of our generation, back to the stage and into the light and love of his devoted fans.”
Kenny and MJ were /are friends, not just a simple working relationship.
So, why I believe Kenny Ortega and these articles, information?, first is my instinct, second I informed myself from many sources, and I read/listened what the other members of the team dancers, coregraphs said about Kenny Ortega. Third, I don't believe everything that is published in newspapers, especially when they, from the newspapers weren't witness to any of the rehearsals, or what was MJ eating there and when. I didn't see 1 footage made by a journalist inside the Staples with the rehearsals.
But very strange I saw many images filmed in May-June 2009 with MJ leaving the Medical Center. From all those images ,7-8 just in one MJ was unmasked, therefore I asked myself WHY?? and was MJ in all that images? Because that mask covered the whole face except the eyes and sometime the ears.
But have anyone seen the photos with MJ in February? Was he fatter, or in that photo at the end of 2008 in that wheelchair? No, he wasn't fat at all. In my opinion he looked the same as he looked in May-June 2009. MJ in 2008 and 2009 looked thin all the time not only in June 2009.
In conclusion I believe that nonone has the right to make accusations without proofs.
Only in the non-democratic countries is easy to condamn somebody based on lies and without evidence of guilt.USA has the guilt of those trials of MJ in the past, it's time to prove that the MOST democratic country in the world, as always USA was named can make a change in justice system, but first the mentality of people must change and they have to to observe the basic rules of justice.
Sorry my english is not very good.
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I know everyone is angry including myself I wont rest till I know the truth, but these people need to get a grip, Micheal did not promote violence that is not the solution.. We all want JUSTICE for Micheal
Personally I do not think only Murray is involved there are more players involved for sure.. I wan't them all to go down like dominos.. They have to pay....
Wait and see what happens tomorrow
This is just so nerverackng .........
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she is one of the followers,
And also one one of them whom MJ couldn't stand even looking at her in a portrait.
lol.
MJ was very sick and tired of the followers camping in their cars at his fence lol.
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Some people need more prayers for them, especially those that want to harm another.
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This is very sad and disturbing.
Those tweets to Kenny are so WRONG!
This will give everyone a glimpse into MJ's sad reality, he could trust NO ONE.
He allows people (fans) to get near him, gain his trust and what did they learn.
-Would he encourage this behaviour the way Karen F. is doing? I think not.
The ironic thing is that Karen professes to really care about him and wants justice, she is quick to point the anger towards others for not stepping in and doing anything for MJ. She and others that follow her are wishing death upon Kenny & others for not taking notice of his "weak" condition (which is questionable).
I think the term one person used was "Kenny had a pair of eyes and could see that MJ was sick", so why did he keep pushing him.
-- Well, Ms. Karen was right there too, she is seen sitting next to MJ in some of the extra footage in the TII movie, and she is smiling and laughing... WHERE WAS HER DEEP CONCERN AND WORRY, if he was in a frail condition (again I don't agree with that) then she is no better than the rest of them.
--Yet people are following her blindly in this rant for revenge and hate, where is HER accountability.
-- KF claims she was his loyal friend, yet she goes in to Holly Terrace, takes photos of the crypt and SELLS them. WITH FRIENDS LIKE THIS, WHO NEEDS ENEMIES.
-- I really hope that this is a hoax and that KF's behaviour will make sense later, because if not, then add her to the list of people that have betrayed MJ, yet again.
-- Think about it, if in fact he is no longer with us and is in that crypt, would your best friend go out and sell pictures of your final resting place, where is this LOYALTY these people profess.
-- I am all for wanting justice if in fact there was foul play that day in June.
-- I am just tired of hearing people accuse others of not doing enough, yet these same people were there too.
-- MJ always said "the truth will prevail". I choose to search for the truth and not follow someone blindly.
-- We are all intelligent individuals, don't believe the media, or others that want to put out some off the wall theory, if it makes no sense in your mind, then keep searching, find the truth for yourselves.
-- The biggest dis-service is to go around half cocked, wishing death upon others and spreading hate, how does this help.
-- His message is being lost in all of this. Wherever he is, and whether he comes back or not, I know one thing for sure, he does not want his legacy to be one of spreading hate. That is so against who he is.
-- I'm sorry this was so long. Just please, use your minds, THINK, then remember what is in your heart and what you believe to be the truth. Whatever help or support we can give to MJ will be best extended with his message in mind. He is all about TRUTH and JUSTICE.
- Strength, L.O.V.E. and Support to each of you and especially tomorrow and in the days to come, please:
"Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand" ...... really, don't let go ....
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well said!have been on this forum a while and you have expressed my thoughts exactly.Maybe she is feeling guilty and trying to shift the blame . :? :roll: ;)
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mjlmpicons I sent you L.O.V.E. for your post ;)
"She and others that follow her are wishing death upon Kenny & others"
Is here anything to be said ? whishing death? can anyone realize what KO felt or others? I'm so sad... :cry: is there any sign of humanity?
Hate and threats against...... L.O.V.E. I will never accept this and I'll stand up for Kenny Ortega or anyone. I consider myself a civilized person and I learnt that LIFE is the most preciuos God's gift, who dares to think himself/herself that is God?
If L.O.V.E must be the shield to protect LIFE, I like to believe that we all are shields.
RESPECT, LIGHT and L.O.V.E. to all.
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mjlmpicons I sent you L.O.V.E. for your post ;)
"She and others that follow her are wishing death upon Kenny & others"
Is here anything to be said ? whishing death? can anyone realize what KO felt or others? I'm so sad... :cry: is there any sign of humanity?
Hate and threats against...... L.O.V.E. I will never accept this and I'll stand up for Kenny Ortega or anyone. I consider myself a civilized person and I learnt that LIFE is the most preciuos God's gift, who dares to think himself/herself that is God?
If L.O.V.E must be the shield to protect LIFE, I like to believe that we all are shields.
RESPECT, LIGHT and L.O.V.E. to all.
Just try to remember that this is all a really good example of the nature of the beast!!
Mankind and humans in general can be conditioned very easily, it actually is typical of what Michael always tried to teach us, not everyone is seeing a bigger picture, ignorance is the biggest excuse in the world for hatred :roll:
Ears & eyes tuned in for today peeps! Keep The Faith ;)
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Those people wanting Kenny dead, 'Kill Kenny!' (south park lol), are plain silly. However, Kenny has always maintained that everything was above board, everything was going smoothly, MJ was having no physical/mental problems with the upcoming TII concerts etc. So if by any chance this was not the case, Kenny (being a senior figure for TII Tour) will have questions to answer. He was in the closest contact with MJ when they rehearsed - they collaborated together to bring TII to fruition! If there were problems or suspicions about MJ's ability to do 1 concert or all of them, Kenny would definitely know. He worked with MJ on the History tour so he would know what was required of MJ, the timing schedule, how fit/healthy he needed to be. I'm not saying that MJ cannot take care of himself, but he was under a lot of pressure from different corners to pull this off and not disappoint - and who knows what other financial ties may have been at stake.
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Colony Capital and AEG both invested tens of millions in this tour, "Between Anschutz and us, he's got plenty of capital," said Tom Barrack, Colony's chief executive. "He's serious, he's focused, he's healthy and he's listening."
Randy Phillips puts his reputation on the line by taking on Jackson at the O2, "Phil had to give me permission to spend all this money. I joke that I'm going to make him a millionaire – from a billionaire." Anschutz has been described as prickly, but Phillips says he is "respectful, a good listener and brilliant." (Telegraph)
Kenny O has to put together a show that is spectacular but one that MJ can physically do. He makes it happen. If he is being paid by AEG (he is show director, who else pays him?) no doubt he signed a contract and has obligations to them. Randy, being AEG Live CEO should be Kenny's boss.
Thome clearly has unknown obligations to Colony Capital. He was brought in to sort out MJ's financial matters, but who else does he work for and in what capacity. If he is not independently working for MJ, there could be conflicts of interest, particularly when he is put completely in charge of MJ's finances. Talk about hitting the jackpot, having the keys to the kingdom literally! Why was he working for free for MJ? Was he also doing something for Colony Capital when he was 'restructuring MJ's finances' that would renumerate him? Put plainly, was Colony Capital indirectly putting it's fingers into MJ's business through Thome? Is that why Thome was so furious threatening death and destruction when he was fired.
So there appears to be a chain of people and a chain of pressure, which are all linked and invested in a monetary way to Michael Jackson. Each person is under obligation and pressure from someone higher up until you get to the top (Tom Barrack, Phillip Anschutz) which is where the money came from. Lets not forget that this whole thing started with Thome introducing Barrack to MJ and him buying the note to Neverland. The beginning of the 'restructuring of his finances'. Randy P said MJ was always on his 'hit list' of acts to perform at the O2, but MJ had turned him down twice. Randy said got a call from guys at Colony Capital and they said MJ was ready to work and wanted to see Randy. The Bel-Air hotel meeting was between MJ, Randy and Thome.
Listen (0-3.15) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rauHdberFw8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rauHdberFw8)
Also read http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/4987420/Randy-Phillips-profile-Michael-Jacksons-promoter-is-making-all-the-right-moves.html