Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: neversaynever on February 08, 2010, 07:51:50 PM
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Brian Oxman says the charge should of been 2nd degree. MJ was swimming in Propofal. It had leaked into the veins in his eyes. Oxman says this was done with malice intent. Sorry, I was late in catching the show it's almost over. Maybe it will on later again. Taking a deep breath and BELIEVING.... :|
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i watch nancy every night. i am hearing this as well. they can not believe it is only INVOLUNTARY i always thought he was MURDERED. then i started to beLIEve and i still do. but knowing that if it isnt a hoax then CM should go down for MURDER>
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Just a heads up...Brian Oxman and Joe are on LKL right now! ;)
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To be charged with murder there has to be intent or "malice aforethought". Conrad Murray did not mean to kill MJ. I believe MJ is still alive by the way.
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To be charged with murder there has to be intent or "malice aforethought". Conrad Murray did not mean to kill MJ. I believe MJ is still alive by the way.
You know gut feeling tells me the same. It's like we have been discussing in several threads... this is nothing but a show. It's going to bring down the Dr. Feel Goods. We'll see!
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Just a heads up...Brian Oxman and Joe are on LKL right now! ;)
I just caught the end of if when Brian Oxman was talking and said that if the victim were'nt Michael Jackson the person in Dr Murray's shoes would be looking at murder charges. :roll: :evil: I glimpsed at Joe while Brian was saying all this and I found he kinda had a smurk of his face. Is it just me or did anyone else notice it?
Other than that did I miss anything important that was said?
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neversaynever, Let's hope so.
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Brian Oxman says the charge should of been 2nd degree. MJ was swimming in Propofal. It had leaked into the veins in his eyes. Oxman says this was done with malice intent. Sorry, I was late in catching the show it's almost over. Maybe it will on later again. Taking a deep breath and BELIEVING.... :|
How does propofal leak into the veins in his eyes? Is that possible?
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Apparently there was so much in his system that it had spread through all the veins including the eye veins. ???? I have never heard of this either, until he brought it up.
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Apparently there was so much in his system that it had spread through all the veins including the eye veins. ???? I have never heard of this either, until he brought it up.
That's effin ridiculous!!! :evil:
This makes me wonder - why would there even be info like this in a "hoax?"
I mean, intoxication, giving someone enough to kill them is easy if there were all these other drugs supposed to be present.
Why to the point that it's literally coming out of his effin eyeballs?!?!
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Not posible. Propofol metabolizes within minutes.
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Not posible. Propofol metabolizes within minutes.
That's exactly what I thought. Brian said he was swimming in it and it had leaked to the veins behind his eyes. Well... if they performed the autopsy hours-days later - no trace should of been present. Correct???
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Not posible. Propofol metabolizes within minutes.
That's exactly what I thought. Brian said he was swimming in it and it had leaked to the veins behind his eyes. Well... if they performed the autopsy hours-days later - no trace should of been present. Correct???
Yes, I'm thinking if he's given a "normal" amount then it should have been gone.
But it's also possible that if someone is given an extremely large dose that their body may shut down before it finishes metabolizing out. Meaning it will be spread through the body but doesn't get the chance to process out of the body.
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Interesting to see Nancy Grace apparently outraged in support of mj...after having condemned him herself during previous accusations of child m...... (did notice she still
reserves judgement) even after acquittal.I think Nancy doesn't like to be proven wrong ? Now she's working on convicting Murray...
mj you've got them where they don't know if they're coming or going! lol
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Swimming in it? That's not plausible, at all. Does anyone on the panel know an anesthesiologist . . . someone who could give us feedback regarding Oxman's statement?
I'm certainly not giving up. The ride is getting wilder but it's far from over . . .
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Dam! Did Oxman have to put it like that. That made me cringe. All i could envision was MJ lying there with his eyes rolling in the back of his head. :cry: :cry:
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Brian Oxman says the charge should of been 2nd degree. MJ was swimming in Propofal. It had leaked into the veins in his eyes. Oxman says this was done with malice intent. Sorry, I was late in catching the show it's almost over. Maybe it will on later again. Taking a deep breath and BELIEVING.... :|
I definitely have to watch it again @ 12am. Because if MJ "was swimming in Propofal"
then it seems like it would have been the cause of death and not the cocktails. Or do I have it twisted?
I need to go read the autopsy report on TMZ or whereever it is.
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Interesting episode this week of Grey' Anatomy.
They are operating on a patient and she has a weird condition where her body metabolizes propofol quickly and she wakes up during the operation.
The anesthesiologist apologises and says he is NOW PUSHING 150ml PROPOFOL. And that gets her back to sleep till the operation is over.
They do a lot of research and for sure they know the amounts needed to sedate someone. So 25ml (according to CM) isn't enough to ooze out of eyeballs. Remember there was only one broken vial and they don't say the capacity of the vial or did I miss it.
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My cousin is an anesth.. whatever it spells :p but I need to see the interview, I just can't ask him if you can o r can't be swimming on propofol! LOL... so, if someone can post a link please, i will aprecciate it.. my first language is spanish and he doesn't understand english, so I must translate to him.. don't worry.. I'm a better listener than a writter in english :P
lots of L.O.V.E!
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They replayed the 911 call. They said Fire Department 33. When MJ rode in his go cart in the interview it was number 33. Janet's Number Ones has 33 songs on it. That is a Master Mason number. The ambulance had 71 on it. Nancy was battled by the manslaughter charge herself. I have been thinking of what Marlon said "maybe now they will leave you alone". What about the name of the med school Meharry......you Jane.
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My cousin is an anesth.. whatever it spells :p but I need to see the interview, I just can't ask him if you can o r can't be swimming on propofol! LOL... so, if someone can post a link please, i will aprecciate it.. my first language is spanish and he doesn't understand english, so I must translate to him.. don't worry.. I'm a better listener than a writter in english :P
lots of L.O.V.E!
I can't find the link to the show - possibly because it's still so new. But here are the transcripts taken from the CNN website.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ng.01.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/08/ng.01.html)
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My cousin is an anesth.. whatever it spells :p but I need to see the interview, I just can't ask him if you can o r can't be swimming on propofol! LOL... so, if someone can post a link please, i will aprecciate it.. my first language is spanish and he doesn't understand english, so I must translate to him.. don't worry.. I'm a better listener than a writter in english :P
lots of L.O.V.E!
I can't find the link to the show - possibly because it's still so new. But here are the transcripts taken from the CNN website.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ng.01.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/08/ng.01.html)
I found a couple of things - the first is a funny (but true) comment regarding the fans. The second says that Dr Murray can't practice in California but can practice in other states. Does my memory serve me right that he didn't even have a California license to begin with? If that is the case he didn't get any punishment today as he can go back to Texas and see his patients. As a Cardiologist he wouldn't be prescribing propofol anyway, would he (the other thing he was banned from doing)?
Back to you, Kevin Frazier with "Entertainment Tonight," joining us. He`s there at the L.A. Courthouse. Kevin, how do all these people find out what`s going to happen in court, that Conrad Murray is going to be coming in, the alleged killer of Michael Jackson? How do they know to show up and start heckling?
FRAZIER: Well, Michael Jackson fans always seem to be in the know. And they were out here in full force, signs and everything, Nancy. You`ve experienced what Michael Jackson fans are like. And they were very upset, along with the family, and they wanted justice served.
The other point I want to make here, Nancy, is that in the court today, the prosecution did mention that they are seeking to revoke Conrad Murray`s license in the state of California, but he is allowed to practice in other states. You heard the judge`s warning about staying away from strong anesthesia. But he can still write prescriptions. He`s a cardiologist. And as the judge said...
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Nancy was pretty steamed at the lame charges :lol: It's funny to see her so worked up when she has made it clear she doesn't like Michael.
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Nancy Grace is money and fame hungry hypocrite with an angry face. More tragedy and scandal in her show-that brings more viewers. No matter who she has to drag trough the mud, as long the case is big as MJ's. His case brought lots of viewers in 2005, and now is the same thing, she is bashing Murray for MJ's death and again she is getting high viewers ratings. Anything that is "MJ"-means lots of money.
I don't care what she has to say now, even if she is talking about justice for MJ, because of her shit-mouth in 2005, she is a media whore, just like all of them who works for the media.
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read the autopsy guys, Michaels eyes where clear, and most of his organs were classed an unremarkable!! he was fit as a fiddle apart from the odd thing here and there, i don't believe the eye thing sorry
theres 51 pages of the autopsy nasty in deepth stuff what he had done, if it was him ;) but enlightening how fit his interior was, can't say the same for the outside according to the report!! :(
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My cousin is an anesth.. whatever it spells :p but I need to see the interview, I just can't ask him if you can o r can't be swimming on propofol! LOL... so, if someone can post a link please, i will aprecciate it.. my first language is spanish and he doesn't understand english, so I must translate to him.. don't worry.. I'm a better listener than a writter in english :P
lots of L.O.V.E!
Here you go and thanks for finding out:
GRACE: He had propofol in his eyes?
OXMAN: He has it in the vitreous humor of his eyes. He has -- acute propofol intoxication. This is one of the worst cases that I could possibly imagine. To say that the prosecution evidence is weak, it is overwhelming here that there is malice implied from the recklessness with which this drug was administered to Michael Jackson. And I will put that up against any 12 people anywhere, any time.
GRACE: Is that true, Jean Casarez, that he had it in the vitreous? His body was swimming in propofol?
CASAREZ: That`s right. That is -- that was just released today with the autopsy report.
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Ditto venus 7' comments...amazing how opinions can change when ratings are
at stake. My husband was murdered...he was 37 I was 35 and I swore to myself
that his death would not make my opinions of him change (I loved him very much,but
being gone' did not make him perfect) as in others who remembered deceased husbands
all of a sudden 'walked on water'. Like to keep it real, human and loveable with
all the imperfections...still love him today...he was a brat sometimes!
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Are you guys glad to remain under mind control or willing to practice de-programing?
The media still has you exactly where they want you.
So sorry to hear that.
xoxoxo
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How horrible if it's true that he had propofol in his eyes. Horrible. But that would turn the doctor into a murderer. Who would administer such an absurd ammount of a dangerous drug - a drug that leads the patient to stop breathing - without the intention...? And then he leaves the sedated patient alone in the room!? And still they can't prove malice? Does it make sense? :?
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How horrible if it's true that he had propofol in his eyes. Horrible. But that would turn the doctor into a murderer. Who would administer such an absurd ammount of a dangerous drug - a drug that leads the patient to stop breathing - without the intention...? And then he leaves the sedated patient alone in the room!? And still they can't prove malice? Does it make sense? :?
They have plenty of evidence to prove malice. I mean the man went to Med School, did he not?! sheesh.
The trial has not started yet....more "wait n see".....ugh. :x
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How horrible if it's true that he had propofol in his eyes. Horrible. But that would turn the doctor into a murderer. Who would administer such an absurd ammount of a dangerous drug - a drug that leads the patient to stop breathing - without the intention...? And then he leaves the sedated patient alone in the room!? And still they can't prove malice? Does it make sense? :?
They have plenty of evidence to prove malice. I mean the man went to Med School, did he not?! sheesh.
The trial has not started yet....more "wait n see".....ugh. :x
MJDangerousGirl, could you explain me just a little about all this? I mean... I understand what just happens yesterday but, since I live in Argentina and here we don't get this kind of news.. was this some sort of.. pre-trial? what was the purpose on this?... if he pays those 25 or 75.ooo is he going to trial anyways? can be some other charges added until the trial day? (I mean like.. homicide or something like that).
Hope you can :)
lots of L.O.V.E!
BTW: here in Argentina the news said that CM was charged by homicide -.-
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Brian Oxman says the charge should of been 2nd degree. MJ was swimming in Propofal. It had leaked into the veins in his eyes. Oxman says this was done with malice intent. Sorry, I was late in catching the show it's almost over. Maybe it will on later again. Taking a deep breath and BELIEVING.... :|
How does propofal leak into the veins in his eyes? Is that possible?
Please all read this before discussing Propofol any further:
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-thi ... t=propofol (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/propofol-diprivan-the-media-story-vs-facts-t491.htm?highlight=propofol)
Credit goes to our so much missed Annieisnotokey.
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Thank you Grace for retrieving annieareyouokay's propofal outline. While there I got to reading the posts talking about Janet and Latoya doing some house cleaning. First can you imagine how much "the sheets that Michael Jackson slept on" would be worth on the open market if Janet and Latoya had not taken them out of there? Also I think thegirls took the sheets out of the house to remove DNA evidence that the man the paramedics took from the house was not Michael. I don't remember the cops missing the propofol in the closet on their first visit. That explains the girl's planting that "movie evidence prop" on their trip in.
On the "Dove" sight, now inactive, one of the clues in playing their game was figuring out the message of the propofol.
It was genius that "DOVE" or Michael left the clue of propofol because it's meaning is to be put asleep for a while
like we all have been asleep before his "death", but in a short time you wake up
like we all here have become awaken to the truth.
Just today Karen Faye fed us some news that the autopsy said MJ had so much propofol his body was swimming in it and out his eyes.......that is just way too extreme and unbelievable.
Karen Faye was close to MJ once and in this hoax movie she may very well be pushing that information to beat that clue or message of the propofol deeper into our heads because as of yesterday most people here suddenly lost faith.
I have to reconsider Karen's part in the script. So I sort of retract what I said about her in another thread where I called her a nail in the tire blow hard needy for attention person. See I'm catching even myself being sucked in by the unproven information.
Anyway, I never liked propofol. Took forever for me to wake up and a couple days to get back on track. No, MJ could not have been dancing on propofol.
This being a hoax become more believable especially in retrospect.
xoxoxo
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karma,
propofol is such a genius masterpiece of art in this plot that I am out of words.
I wonder who invented this famous name and since when it is on the market. I have to check.
Slowly I am getting even into the fictional imagination that the name of this substance must have been modified one day to fit the plot as it does now.
I don't know if that exists / is accessible in the US: a register of approved drugs and for which cause they are appropriate. Just to make sure that the product exists at all. I have to check.
I remember that Doc Murray in the very beginning was being pictured as somebody having executed research and doing treatments on "sleeping disorders".
I always linked this knowledge to the "experimental" use of propofol for his patients in order to help them with unconventional measures.
Knowing more now, I would assume today that "sleeping disorders" would not be appropriate to label Michael but us.
And that we needed a prop and allowed just too many in our closer or farer environment to fool us around.
And I would conclude that our consumption of media crap is our prop to calm our worries and sloppyness (and who is fooling us around - that's up to every individual one to identify on his/her own).
We could easily say "and give us our daily soap" instead of "daily bread" and hit the nail right on the head.
It could not have been Diprivan (despite this name implies "depriving someone of something" which is not a bad summary either... ;-))
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Actually, proprofol has been around for a while.
http://www.nursingcenter.com/library/Jo ... _ID=533174 (http://www.nursingcenter.com/library/JournalArticle.asp?Article_ID=533174) (2004)
http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... t/69/6/643 (http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/69/6/643) (1992)
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result ... op&search= (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?query_txt=propofol&sort=relevance&srch=top&search=) (patents)
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Nancy was pretty steamed at the lame charges :lol: It's funny to see her so worked up when she has made it clear she doesn't like Michael.
Yes I know I found that stunning myself. But I think Nancy is a very smart women and I think she may have been looking into the whole Michael Jackson thing and heck maybe even the hoax sites and maybe she is kinda on our side of the fence now. Not that she would ever admit it I dont think or maybe she would after the world found out but I think she see's this is all a crock of BS with all it's inconsistencies. IMO ;) Anyway one thing that will never change for me wether Michael is alive or not, something stinks here, very fishy and not right. :shock:
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Well, here is the thing.. I've talked with my cousin, he is an anesthesiologist wich means that is not only a degree doctor, he have a speciality. I'll do my best to make it clear but my english is horrible, so.. do your best too to understand me :P
He use propofol daily and I asked him about the "swimming in propofol" statement.. he told me that propofol is administrated by IV and of course it will be all over his body because it goes with the blood. BUT, if someone was using propofol and he have a cardiac arrest, a doctor will inmediatly cut the propofol dose and start CPR and he will give the patient oxygen, because is not difficult to reanimate the patient at least if he has some other cardiac problems.. the thing is that the Dr. can reanimate the patient even if he gets 20 minutes after the patient had the cardiac arrest.. he will probably have some serious issues because of the oxygen that is not getting into his body, but it will live. So.. if CM was really outside of the room for only 5 o 10 minutes as his lawyer stated the first days, and being a cardiologist himself, MJ will be living.. maybe with some health problems. but alive
The other thing is that if the Dr. was away before the dosis ended and the patient have a cardiac arrest but the dose is not cut it.. then that person will have a lot of propofol in his system, because even being death the IV keeps working (of course, you don't need to move a finger to make the liquid, whatever it is, get into your body when you use IV by drops).. but the thing is that no one can say that there was propofol coming out of his eyes and of course you can't say that he was swimming in propofol because he have it even in the veins behind his eyes -.- because forenses don't need to make a dosage in that area, the veins behind our eyes are the same that goes trough our arms and leg (i have no clue but a doctor surelly knows wich vein it is!).
Besides that he told me that if MJ really died some time before the 911 call was made, and considering the time of dead, the autopsy might started at 3pm aprox... if MJ was alive after he got his dosis of propofol and the cardiac arrest came later, and considering that our organism works even after we are considered dead (the organs have differents times of working remaining after the death, our brain works like 20 minutes after and our liver maybe 1 hour or more depending on the patient) then probably the amount of propofol will be lower because, yes, propofol needs a short time to dismiss in our organism... but considering this statement, he pressumes that (if Michael is really dead) he got the cardiac arrest before the dosis was ended, and of course his doctor was not there for at least 30 minutes since the cardiac arrest began.
:) this was just for clarify that swimming in propofol thing.. I do believe that he is alive and I haven't loose my faith at all.. I'm now thinking that with all this murray and report thing, is more probably that eyewitnesses program theory the one I will follow :)
I love you all!!
Lots of L.O.V.E!!
forgot to ask him about propofol in the stomach, but in conclusion he told me that the statement saying that he was swimming in propofol was unprofessional if some doctor made it, and it was exxagerated because you need to make a dosage leaving all the veins empty off blood and leaving on the other side just the propofol.. and that is not a common thing to do.
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Well, here is the thing.. I've talked with my cousin, he is an anesthesiologist wich means that is not only a degree doctor, he have a speciality. I'll do my best to make it clear but my english is horrible, so.. do your best too to understand me :P
He use propofol daily and I asked him about the "swimming in propofol" statement.. he told me that propofol is administrated by IV and of course it will be all over his body because it goes with the blood. BUT, if someone was using propofol and he have a cardiac arrest, a doctor will inmediatly cut the propofol dose and start CPR and he will give the patient oxygen, because is not difficult to reanimate the patient at least if he has some other cardiac problems.. the thing is that the Dr. can reanimate the patient even if he gets 20 minutes after the patient had the cardiac arrest.. he will probably have some serious issues because of the oxygen that is not getting into his body, but it will live. So.. if CM was really outside of the room for only 5 o 10 minutes as his lawyer stated the first days, and being a cardiologist himself, MJ will be living.. maybe with some health problems. but alive
The other thing is that if the Dr. was away before the dosis ended and the patient have a cardiac arrest but the dose is not cut it.. then that person will have a lot of propofol in his system, because even being death the IV keeps working (of course, you don't need to move a finger to make the liquid, whatever it is, get into your body when you use IV by drops).. but the thing is that no one can say that there was propofol coming out of his eyes and of course you can't say that he was swimming in propofol because he have it even in the veins behind his eyes -.- because forenses don't need to make a dosage in that area, the veins behind our eyes are the same that goes trough our arms and leg (i have no clue but a doctor surelly knows wich vein it is!).
Besides that he told me that if MJ really died some time before the 911 call was made, and considering the time of dead, the autopsy might started at 3pm aprox... if MJ was alive after he got his dosis of propofol and the cardiac arrest came later, and considering that our organism works even after we are considered dead (the organs have differents times of working remaining after the death, our brain works like 20 minutes after and our liver maybe 1 hour or more depending on the patient) then probably the amount of propofol will be lower because, yes, propofol needs a short time to dismiss in our organism... but considering this statement, he pressumes that (if Michael is really dead) he got the cardiac arrest before the dosis was ended, and of course his doctor was not there for at least 30 minutes since the cardiac arrest began.
Thank you so much for asking your cousin about this. That is exactly what I've heard from other doctors, that it is not hard to resuscitate someone after giving too much propofol, which means Murray is a big fat liar!! He had to have been out of the room for at least 20 minutes, not two. If MJ is really dead, then he should be charged with a heck of a lot more than involuntary manslaughter. :evil:
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Thank you for that highly professional explanation of how propofol works. Getting a real education here. Glad to have a clearer image in my mind of how "the body" could be so saturated from a drip system. Have you determined yet if that goes along with the time line of events we also have information on...911 call, Murray cell messages, transport/arrival at UCLA and time of "death"?
Grace,
I have seen here and on other hoax sites the use of the term prop-fool. Not saying you stole if or maybe it was you who first thought that up. I do see that the constant exaggeration of the "cause of death" due to propofol could also very well be and in our face a very clever and intentionally planted clue by Michael alerting his fans to the hoax belief.
I've said before, taking this clue from another site, in that the propofol affect when used properly PUTS YOU TO SLEEP, but/and for a SHORT TIME, then you WAKE UP.....
You don't have to stretch your imagination very far to see this drug and it's name being used as the perfect main clue in a hoax story. Michael's message is for those who are alseep to WAKE UP, see the TRUTH, Stop Dogging Me Around, They Don't Really Care About Us, on and on. He would not pull a hoax without leaving a really big game clue so millions of fans would be okay.
For me to keep believing in a hoax I have to think like Michael and how he would pull off it off. If a hoax plan didn't come from Michael himself I'm sure he had no trouble finding a top notch movie or mystery novel writer to help come up with the perfect "pay back, pull the rug out from under the enemy's ass plan. And he wouldn't have to hurt anyone in the process.
Looking at propofol or prop-fool, being used as a prop to fool some of the people some of the time in a hoax mindset, the use of propofol inside the game sure does seem like the choice drug and it certainly has become a main focal point.
Believing that this is a hoax one would also have to believe that the deceased body being examined is not Michael, but instead is a body double or similar looking person that could pass for him.
One group says Michael was fit and healthy the day before, :D
another group say he was in extreme bad health for months. :(
There is one basic thing keeping me on the hoax side >>>>>
#1. absence of DNA proof the body was Michael. Being that in this mega super star case of probable murder and mega estate value involved I would think that DNA testing would be normal procedure, not having to be called for by the family or courts.
There seems to be way too much time/talk about collecting evidence to prove or dis-prove if Michael was a self inflicted drug user. Now they are building evidence to see if Murray pumped MJ up with "how much" propofol so the state of California can charge him with, oh, oops, whoops, neglectful accidental overdose after letting him run free for 7 months and only searching 2 of several addresses he is associated with ????
Well guess what...Murray obtained his medical education at 2 schools, not major universities either. His licenses are still valid but he is way behind on re-certification.
Just because his lawyer told the judge his license is valid in 2 states, wouldn't you think someone in LAPD would take a moment to google the validity of that before allowing him to continue practice ? It is so fake and sloppy !
Sloppy sloppy work by our trusted and well paid officials don't ya think?
But thankfully we can always count on TMZ to keep feeding us a "constant drip" of all the updated information coming our way to keep us off balance enough we don't eat, sleep or poop unless we are arguing over whether this is real or not.
Too good to be true IMO. I think it's time for a good ole boy "Profol-gate" investigation.
Know any good hackers with free time on their hands ????????
xoxoxo
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Thank you for that highly professional explanation of how propofol works. Getting a real education here. Glad to have a clearer image in my mind of how "the body" could be so saturated from a drip system. Have you determined yet if that goes along with the time line of events we also have information on...911 call, Murray cell messages, transport/arrival at UCLA and time of "death"?
Grace,
I have seen here and on other hoax sites the use of the term prop-fool. Not saying you stole if or maybe it was you who first thought that up. I do see that the constant exaggeration of the "cause of death" due to propofol could also very well be and in our face a very clever and intentionally planted clue by Michael alerting his fans to the hoax belief.
I've said before, taking this clue from another site, in that the propofol affect when used properly PUTS YOU TO SLEEP, but/and for a SHORT TIME, then you WAKE UP.....
You don't have to stretch your imagination very far to see this drug and it's name being used as the perfect main clue in a hoax story. Michael's message is for those who are alseep to WAKE UP, see the TRUTH, Stop Dogging Me Around, They Don't Really Care About Us, on and on. He would not pull a hoax without leaving a really big game clue so millions of fans would be okay.
For me to keep believing in a hoax I have to think like Michael and how he would pull off it off. If a hoax plan didn't come from Michael himself I'm sure he had no trouble finding a top notch movie or mystery novel writer to help come up with the perfect "pay back, pull the rug out from under the enemy's ass plan. And he wouldn't have to hurt anyone in the process.
Looking at propofol or prop-fool, being used as a prop to fool some of the people some of the time in a hoax mindset, the use of propofol inside the game sure does seem like the choice drug and it certainly has become a main focal point.
Believing that this is a hoax one would also have to believe that the deceased body being examined is not Michael, but instead is a body double or similar looking person that could pass for him.
One group says Michael was fit and healthy the day before, :D
another group say he was in extreme bad health for months. :(
There is one basic thing keeping me on the hoax side >>>>>
#1. absence of DNA proof the body was Michael. Being that in this mega super star case of probable murder and mega estate value involved I would think that DNA testing would be normal procedure, not having to be called for by the family or courts.
There seems to be way too much time/talk about collecting evidence to prove or dis-prove if Michael was a self inflicted drug user. Now they are building evidence to see if Murray pumped MJ up with "how much" propofol so the state of California can charge him with, oh, oops, whoops, neglectful accidental overdose after letting him run free for 7 months and only searching 2 of several addresses he is associated with ????
Well guess what...Murray obtained his medical education at 2 schools, not major universities either. His licenses are still valid but he is way behind on re-certification.
Just because his lawyer told the judge his license is valid in 2 states, wouldn't you think someone in LAPD would take a moment to google the validity of that before allowing him to continue practice ? It is so fake and sloppy !
Sloppy sloppy work by our trusted and well paid officials don't ya think?
But thankfully we can always count on TMZ to keep feeding us a "constant drip" of all the updated information coming our way to keep us off balance enough we don't eat, sleep or poop unless we are arguing over whether this is real or not.
Too good to be true IMO. I think it's time for a good ole boy "Profol-gate" investigation.
Know any good hackers with free time on their hands ????????
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Yay!! Investigators in here are getting agressive. :D Are we finally gonna get down to some serious business? :twisted: :D
I am not a good hacker though, I wouldn't even know where to begin. :lol: