Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => June 25, 2009 => The Ambulance => Topic started by: Sternschen87 on February 10, 2010, 01:30:58 AM

Title: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 10, 2010, 01:30:58 AM
Here you can see Michael with sunglasses on the right side...

Please compare the inside of the supposed ambulance to the real 71 ambulance which I've found in a report...



I have made some more screenshots:
I defenitely see 3 persons inside... Here they are:

And this is a rare video I've found:
[youtube:2znkbgw7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:2znkbgw7]
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: wendst6 on February 10, 2010, 01:37:25 AM
Can you see the face in the ambulance?
Who is it?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg)
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: hope on February 10, 2010, 01:57:51 AM
Looks like he has a white surgical mask on.  :shock:
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 10, 2010, 07:16:11 AM
Do you see the sunglasses? And the hin white face? :o

It must be Michael!!!!!!
1.) no paramedic wears sunglasses to perform against heartattack :lol:
2.) his bodyguards are black or have much more muscles....
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 10, 2010, 07:17:17 AM
The best proof for me is:

that the real ambulance, you can see above, does not match with the ambulance on the picture....
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Kirsche on February 10, 2010, 07:20:02 AM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Here you can see Michael with sunglasses on the right side...

Please compare the inside of the supposed ambulance to the real 71 ambulance which I've found in a report...

And this is a rare video I've found:
[youtube:37ret43s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:37ret43s]


The Ambulance 71 photo compared with MJ Amb_Pic looks completely different... the real 71 photo looks more modern or am I wrong... but the face in the ambulance...maybe it's just a reflection? Or do you think it is Michael sitting up in the Amb.?
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 10, 2010, 10:22:35 AM
I think it is michael sitting up. If you use slow-motion at the video, where you can see that the ambulance is driving away from his home, you can see clearly see a white small person sitting on the right with sunglasses!!!
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: somekindofsign on February 10, 2010, 10:35:58 AM
About the stretcher, I just can´t see anything.

About the ambulance face, sorry, this is the hand of the black mand protecting the ambulance back side windows...  :(
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Eva R on February 10, 2010, 10:52:41 AM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Here you can see Michael with sunglasses on the right side...

Please compare the inside of the supposed ambulance to the real 71 ambulance which I've found in a report...

And this is a rare video I've found:
[youtube:2gvy66fv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:2gvy66fv]
the last picture. you see Michael in that right? First I saw it but not anymore! Shit!!  :o
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: SEHF on February 10, 2010, 11:30:13 AM
Where do you see MJ sitting in the ambulance?
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: wendst6 on February 10, 2010, 12:13:40 PM
Quote
Where do you see MJ sitting in the ambulance?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg)

Here can you see it. There is no image, it's from a video.
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Jude on February 10, 2010, 12:20:33 PM
must be nice to have eyes like that  8-)
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Kirsche on February 10, 2010, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: "wendst6"
Quote
Where do you see MJ sitting in the ambulance?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg)

Here can you see it. There is no image, it's from a video.


What is sure, that this is NOT a reflection of the hand..
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: somekindofsign on February 10, 2010, 01:11:25 PM
No, no, I misunderstood  :oops:
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Kirsche on February 10, 2010, 01:14:28 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
No, no, I misunderstood  :oops:

:)

So, yeah it could look like a face....

But could it just be a reflection of the face of a photograph or someone else ?

The problem is, that it's very hard to see what it really is...or it's just me :D
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: somekindofsign on February 10, 2010, 01:27:22 PM
No, it´s not just you.
It could be or not. I even see a face in a different position to what is pointed...
Who knows, the video (or pic in this case) is not clear enough...
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: loyalfan on February 10, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
CAN ANYONE GET A CLEARER SHOT OF THIS PLEASE...????
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: MJLive2010 on February 10, 2010, 02:36:49 PM
I have watched this video over and over again ITS HIM 1000 % we just need clearar shoot . I hope there is more  :D
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Cameron on February 10, 2010, 03:58:04 PM
I don't understand, what thing we have to see in this video ? I don't see anything ^^
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Raven on February 10, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
I have seen this video before, a much sharper version than this
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: the arabian nights on February 10, 2010, 04:34:14 PM
i think i see a foot kick up?
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: somekindofsign on February 10, 2010, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i think i see a foot kick up?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Sorry but where do you see all those things?
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: lovemj4everandever on February 10, 2010, 11:59:09 PM
This is  a great find!  It is the first picture I have seen that I can say I am fully convinced that it is indeed Michael in the ambulance.  I lightened the picture a little.  Perhaps everyone can see Michael's gorgeous face a little bit better.  He is wearing sunglasses and it indeed to me looks exactly like our beautiful Michael. You can even clearly see his nose and his lips!  

Just CLICK on the IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT.   What do you all think?

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4431/mikeambulance.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/mikeambulance.jpg/)
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: eviltwin on February 11, 2010, 12:26:36 AM
that really does appear to look like Mike in the ambulance not even wearing a mask there.

Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
This is  a great find!  It is the first picture I have seen that I can say I am fully convinced that it is indeed Michael in the ambulance.  I lightened the picture a little.  Perhaps everyone can see Michael's gorgeous face a little bit better.  He is wearing sunglasses and it indeed to me looks exactly like our beautiful Michael. You can even clearly see his nose and his lips!  

Just CLICK on the IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT.   What do you all think?

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4431/mikeambulance.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/mikeambulance.jpg/)
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Jacksonology on February 11, 2010, 12:43:32 AM
Quote from: "wendst6"
Quote
Where do you see MJ sitting in the ambulance?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/995/nochmal.jpg)

Here can you see it. There is no image, it's from a video.
:o  :o  :o  I SEE HIM. Wonder why he haven't heard from that person with there hand on the window...
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Jacksonology on February 11, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Here you can see Michael with sunglasses on the right side...

Please compare the inside of the supposed ambulance to the real 71 ambulance which I've found in a report...

And this is a rare video I've found:
[youtube:42c0l6j9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:42c0l6j9]
i can't see what your talking about IN THE VIDEO. where do i stop it at too get a good Look???  :cry: oh i think i see him standing coverd by some guards on the SIDE of the gourney not ON it???
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 11, 2010, 02:25:38 AM
Here is the video slow-motion!

Please watc second 8-11!!
 
This cannot be a reflection because you see him from the side..
[youtube:1myxonui]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDZyiUaQbOs[/youtube:1myxonui]
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Raven on February 11, 2010, 03:30:58 AM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
This is  a great find!  It is the first picture I have seen that I can say I am fully convinced that it is indeed Michael in the ambulance.  I lightened the picture a little.  Perhaps everyone can see Michael's gorgeous face a little bit better.  He is wearing sunglasses and it indeed to me looks exactly like our beautiful Michael. You can even clearly see his nose and his lips!  

Just CLICK on the IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT.   What do you all think?

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4431/mikeambulance.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/mikeambulance.jpg/)
You can't draw any conclusions if something's vague or inaudible. You can make a face out of every random pattern, that's how the mind works.

Sorry but you're trying to draw all sorts of conclusions about something that is totally blurry. People do this time and again, to try and recognize something from shadows, blurs and so on. Same thing with audio.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 08:53:16 AM
What do you think of the three person?
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 08:54:00 AM
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
This is  a great find!  It is the first picture I have seen that I can say I am fully convinced that it is indeed Michael in the ambulance.  I lightened the picture a little.  Perhaps everyone can see Michael's gorgeous face a little bit better.  He is wearing sunglasses and it indeed to me looks exactly like our beautiful Michael. You can even clearly see his nose and his lips!  

Just CLICK on the IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT.   What do you all think?

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4431/mikeambulance.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/mikeambulance.jpg/)
You can't draw any conclusions if something's vague or inaudible. You can make a face out of every random pattern, that's how the mind works.

Sorry but you're trying to draw all sorts of conclusions about something that is totally blurry. People do this time and again, to try and recognize something from shadows, blurs and so on. Same thing with audio.

I have made it sharper...
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 12, 2010, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Here you can see Michael with sunglasses on the right side...

Please compare the inside of the supposed ambulance to the real 71 ambulance which I've found in a report...

And this is a rare video I've found:
[youtube:2ci879ug]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:2ci879ug]


The Ambulance 71 photo compared with MJ Amb_Pic looks completely different... the real 71 photo looks more modern or am I wrong... but the face in the ambulance...maybe it's just a reflection? Or do you think it is Michael sitting up in the Amb.?

You're right. The fake photo looks like something from the late 70's inside!
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 11:02:02 AM
Quote
but the face in the ambulance...maybe it's just a reflection? Or do you think it is Michael sitting up in the Amb.?

No, have a look of this pictures.None of the persons who has a sunglasses.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6343/kw3personen.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/i/kw3personen.jpg/)
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: Kirsche on February 12, 2010, 11:07:23 AM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
This is  a great find!  It is the first picture I have seen that I can say I am fully convinced that it is indeed Michael in the ambulance.  I lightened the picture a little.  Perhaps everyone can see Michael's gorgeous face a little bit better.  He is wearing sunglasses and it indeed to me looks exactly like our beautiful Michael. You can even clearly see his nose and his lips!  

Just CLICK on the IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT.   What do you all think?

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4431/mikeambulance.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/mikeambulance.jpg/)


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  Okay, you convinced me....
But why was he in the ambulance instead of escaping with another car or something... :?:

And he does not look, like he's in bad health...I think he wouldn't wear his sunglasses then, or am I wrong? And it does not look like the ambulance pic...so it is another proof for me, that this "official" Amb.-Pic is a fake
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
...and here, it's just a reflection?

http://[url=http][img]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6743/monitor3.jpg[/img][/url]
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Kirsche on February 12, 2010, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: "wendst6"
...and here, it's just a reflection?

http://[url=http][img]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6743/monitor3.jpg[/img][/url]

mhm but it looks like he has an oxygen tube in his nose?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: "wendst6"
Quote
but the face in the ambulance...maybe it's just a reflection? Or do you think it is Michael sitting up in the Amb.?

No, have a look of this pictures.None of the persons who has a sunglasses.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6343/kw3personen.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/i/kw3personen.jpg/)

Wow, where do you have these pictures from? I have never seen them!!
On B you can clearly see the person. In my pictures it seems Michael. Can you show me a zoom?
So we can maybe clearify the situation!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on February 12, 2010, 12:28:20 PM
You're contributing the "face" to the ceiling of the ambulance...
Here's a shot where you look through the front window of the ambulance, you can even see the rear mirror:
Pause at 0:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXO ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXOJVw&feature=PlayList&p=C69FD41D6B14C44E&index=0&playnext=1)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Hoaxornot on February 12, 2010, 12:40:46 PM
I see a face with sunglasses in the left window... Do we have a picture of who was behind the ambulance... the person does not have a camera...just looking... might be a reflection... I do not really see where the hand is
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 12, 2010, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Here you can see Michael with sunglasses on the right side...

Please compare the inside of the supposed ambulance to the real 71 ambulance which I've found in a report...

And this is a rare video I've found:
[youtube:11k5kmoo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:11k5kmoo]
i can't see what your talking about IN THE VIDEO. where do i stop it at too get a good Look???  :cry: oh i think i see him standing coverd by some guards on the SIDE of the gourney not ON it???

You can see him in the other video inside the ambulance from .08-.21  Is it possible that one of the attending medics wore a mask? Just asking...In this one very briefly it appears that the person is sitting but it's not very clear.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
You're contributing the "face" to the ceiling of the ambulance...
Here's a shot where you look through the front window of the ambulance, you can even see the rear mirror:
Pause at 0:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXO ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXOJVw&feature=PlayList&p=C69FD41D6B14C44E&index=0&playnext=1)

I see nothing at 00:53
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 12, 2010, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: "Hoaxornot"
I see a face with sunglasses in the left window... Do we have a picture of who was behind the ambulance... the person does not have a camera...just looking... might be a reflection... I do not really see where the hand is

I also see a face (or reflection, not sure) on the left side. It's noticeable at 0:48 before they put their hands up to the window.
Title: Re: michael SITTING in ambulance + rare video
Post by: the arabian nights on February 12, 2010, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i think i see a foot kick up?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Sorry but where do you see all those things?
your right i review the vid again and its jumpy and fuzzy - so no i can see that -
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
Slow-motion the best part:
[youtube:x92x260m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDZyiUaQbOs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:x92x260m]

11-12: best view of "michael"
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on February 12, 2010, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "Raven"
You're contributing the "face" to the ceiling of the ambulance...
Here's a shot where you look through the front window of the ambulance, you can even see the rear mirror:
Pause at 0:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXO ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXOJVw&feature=PlayList&p=C69FD41D6B14C44E&index=0&playnext=1)

I see nothing at 00:53
(http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=11nd8w&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1)
See-through the front window + rear view mirror at 0:53.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:28:38 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "Raven"
You're contributing the "face" to the ceiling of the ambulance...
Here's a shot where you look through the front window of the ambulance, you can even see the rear mirror:
Pause at 0:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXO ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXOJVw&feature=PlayList&p=C69FD41D6B14C44E&index=0&playnext=1)

I see nothing at 00:53
(http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=11nd8w&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1)
See-through the front window + rear view mirror at 0:53.

Ah.... I know what you mean, this looks really like a shadow or something else;
 but I am talking about this face:
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 01:32:39 PM
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7493/mj1s.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: "wendst6"
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7493/mj1s.jpg)

These are reflections of photographer!!!!!
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on February 12, 2010, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "Raven"
You're contributing the "face" to the ceiling of the ambulance...
Here's a shot where you look through the front window of the ambulance, you can even see the rear mirror:
Pause at 0:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXO ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xazsOkXOJVw&feature=PlayList&p=C69FD41D6B14C44E&index=0&playnext=1)

I see nothing at 00:53
(http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=11nd8w&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1)
See-through the front window + rear view mirror at 0:53.

Ah.... I know what you mean, this looks really like a shadow or something else;
 but I am talking about this face:
I was talking about the face lovemjforeverandever drew on the ceiling
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 01:39:08 PM
Quote
These are reflections of photographer!!!!!

Yes, the faces that are shown in green, but not the face, are in shown pink .
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
@ Raven
Ok, misunderstood  :roll:

What do you think of my picture? HZave you seen the slow motion video?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: "wendst6"
Quote
These are reflections of photographer!!!!!

Yes, the faces that are shown in green, but not the face, are in shown pink .

Honestly I see nothing... just black and white

But where do you have the pictures from?
You have shown other pictures I havent' seen yet
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on February 12, 2010, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
@ Raven
Ok, misunderstood  :roll:

What do you think of my picture? HZave you seen the slow motion video?
I think it's all much too blurry. There exists another ambulance video at arrival of UCLA that is much sharper, shot from the right side of the ambulance.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:49:12 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
@ Raven
Ok, misunderstood  :roll:

What do you think of my picture? HZave you seen the slow motion video?
I think it's all much too blurry. There exists another ambulance video at arrival of UCLA that is much sharper, shot from the right side of the ambulance.

Do you have the link?
P.S. I was talking about the depart(?) of michaels house
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 01:50:30 PM
Quote
But where do you have the pictures from?
You have shown other pictures I havent' seen yet


The pictures I have made videos on youtube.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: "wendst6"
Quote
But where do you have the pictures from?
You have shown other pictures I havent' seen yet


The pictures I have made videos on youtube.

the link?=
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on February 12, 2010, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
@ Raven
Ok, misunderstood  :roll:

What do you think of my picture? HZave you seen the slow motion video?
I think it's all much too blurry. There exists another ambulance video at arrival of UCLA that is much sharper, shot from the right side of the ambulance.

Do you have the link?
P.S. I was talking about the depart(?) of michaels house
No, unfortunately I saw it many months ago, but it was similar to this one posted earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZnQx5g5lwAE&co ... edded&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/ZnQx5g5lwAE&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1)

But then, much sharper
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 12, 2010, 02:01:57 PM
look at 2.23 or abouts
the guy coming out being shield. just to let you know i have post this on another thread

[youtube:1bzhq6qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFyxpQMdKM&feature=related[/youtube:1bzhq6qr]
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 02:09:12 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
look at 2.23 or abouts
the guy coming out being shield. just to let you know i have post this on another thread

[youtube:61ulppfs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFyxpQMdKM&feature=related[/youtube:61ulppfs]

I have seen this many times, but I have always doubt that this is michael because I have always seen black hands... but this time i could see his thin white arms... and the hair!!!! 8-)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 12, 2010, 02:21:52 PM
i dont think its mike - too risky, but i think it very strange that the focus is not on trolley mike, and this person is hiding himself - strange eh
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 02:28:21 PM
Quote
the link?=

PLEASE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuXRaJFdmKU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuXRaJFdmKU)


http://[url=http][img]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6176/hollywoodtv.jpg[/img][/url]
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 02:33:48 PM
@wendst6
 
I am talking about these ones... Do you have them bigger?
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6343/kw3personen.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6343/kw3personen.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 02:44:10 PM
What do you think about this one?!? Where is the ambulance?!?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on February 12, 2010, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
What do you think about this one?!? Where is the ambulance?!?
Ah well there you have the man that supposedly stepped out of the ambulance: another security guy. Ambulance is out of sight, they are walking inside
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 02:51:44 PM
Quote
I am talking about these ones... Do you have them bigger?

Click on the pictures in the real post, then once again, they will be bigger.

...and here is the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsbkXUOzuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsbkXUOzuo)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
but what meant the person with the circles??
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: wendst6 on February 12, 2010, 02:55:13 PM
Quote
I am talking about these ones... Do you have them bigger?

here you can see the pictures bigger.


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6343/kw3personen.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6343/kw3personen.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: steph on February 12, 2010, 03:08:02 PM
In the second from last picture you can see a blue jacket hanging by the window.This has obviously been placed on purpose so they could get the shot.On june 25th there would not have been a jacket hanging on a moving ambo also it was sunny so the shot would have been very hard to take.The ambo picture has got to be fake.Ben in the interview said himself it was kind of a trick to take such a picture.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: mollyosheaMJ on February 12, 2010, 04:51:50 PM
you guys find all this stuff and completley blow my mind. thanks!
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: "mollyosheaMJ"
you guys find all this stuff and completley blow my mind. thanks!


thank you 8-)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 12, 2010, 08:33:12 PM
I´ve searched for the best takes or copies of the 8 frames I know from UCLA,
and tried to animate them with the best quality I could.

Here you are some stuff:
*Edit* Oops I had a undesired cut of the ambo side. I´m fixing it *Edit*
*Edit* Fixed*Edit*

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7710/ucla01650.gif)

The full image:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2369/ucla01.gif

Wider:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2008/ucla02.gif

To see the whole "scenario".
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7286/ucla03650.gif)

This but bigger:
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6784/ucla031024.gif

Some details in jpg for better quality and to look them slowly:

Frame 01:
This is the best image I´ve ever seen.
Sun glasses arm or sideburns?
Seems like the person is putting the sun glasses on, so the arm is diagonal...

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2370/ucla01detalle.jpg)

Frame 02:
This is the only frame (with 7) where the misterious face can be seen.
By chance, is the only frame that cannot be found with an acceptable quality.
Sun glasses?

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6346/ucla02detalle.jpg)

Frame 03:
Feet? Sorry to say this but IMO the head have feet here. The bodyguards are more misterious to me. And the lack of any pic of that.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5013/ucla03detalle.jpg)

Frame 04:
Sun glasses again?

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7935/ucla04detalle.jpg)

Frame 05:
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7937/ucla05detalle.jpg)

Frame 06:
Ponytail?

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7839/ucla06detalle.jpg)

Frame 07:
Moved
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8115/ucla07detalle.jpg)

Frame 08:
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6206/ucla08detalle.jpg)

I see clearly both bodyguards putting off their jackets to hide someone.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 12, 2010, 08:50:26 PM
Some bigger details of 1 and 6:

Frame 1:
What looked sun glasses arm, was the black guy ear...
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4981/ucla01detallemin.jpg)

Frame 6: Ponytail
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8344/ucla06detallemin.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 13, 2010, 02:34:43 AM
and this one is really good
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 13, 2010, 04:26:58 AM
you guys are simply amazing the talent that you have - i respect the work you have done...hugs
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 13, 2010, 09:21:16 AM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
and this one is really good

That is the second bodyguard.
Can be clearly seen on the wider animation, and I think Frame 5 is the same moment of the other angle´s pic. They are protecting someone else yet to get off the ambo, and there´s no pic of that. That to me, is really really suspicious. If you´re a papparazzi you just don´t stop shooting in that moment, no?

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8063/frame8x2.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Hoaxornot on February 13, 2010, 12:05:33 PM
Yes i see him clearly but they still seem to hide somebody lower and Dr Murray is also looking down
This is all so weird
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Jacksonology on February 14, 2010, 03:40:47 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I´ve searched for the best takes or copies of the 8 frames I know from UCLA,
and tried to animate them with the best quality I could.

Here you are some stuff:
*Edit* Oops I had a undesired cut of the ambo side. I´m fixing it *Edit*
*Edit* Fixed*Edit*

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7710/ucla01650.gif)

The full image:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2369/ucla01.gif

Wider:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2008/ucla02.gif

To see the whole "scenario".
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7286/ucla03650.gif)

This but bigger:
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6784/ucla031024.gif

Some details in jpg for better quality and to look them slowly:

Frame 01:
This is the best image I´ve ever seen.
Sun glasses arm or sideburns?
Seems like the person is putting the sun glasses on, so the arm is diagonal...

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2370/ucla01detalle.jpg)

Frame 02:
This is the only frame (with 7) where the misterious face can be seen.
By chance, is the only frame that cannot be found with an acceptable quality.
Sun glasses?

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6346/ucla02detalle.jpg)

Frame 03:
Feet? Sorry to say this but IMO the head have feet here. The bodyguards are more misterious to me. And the lack of any pic of that.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5013/ucla03detalle.jpg)

Frame 04:
Sun glasses again?

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7935/ucla04detalle.jpg)

Frame 05:
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7937/ucla05detalle.jpg)

Frame 06:
Ponytail?

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7839/ucla06detalle.jpg)

Frame 07:
Moved
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8115/ucla07detalle.jpg)

Frame 08:
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6206/ucla08detalle.jpg)

I see clearly both bodyguards putting off their jackets to hide someone.

I was really starting too Lose Hope. but after seeing this Im ABSOLUTELY SURE MJ is Alive!!!  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Jacksonology on February 14, 2010, 03:46:00 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I´ve searched for the best takes or copies of the 8 frames I know from UCLA,
and tried to animate them with the best quality I could.

Here you are some stuff:
*Edit* Oops I had a undesired cut of the ambo side. I´m fixing it *Edit*
*Edit* Fixed*Edit*

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7710/ucla01650.gif)

The full image:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2369/ucla01.gif

Wider:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2008/ucla02.gif

To see the whole "scenario".
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7286/ucla03650.gif)

This but bigger:
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6784/ucla031024.gif

Some details in jpg for better quality and to look them slowly:

Frame 01:
This is the best image I´ve ever seen.
Sun glasses arm or sideburns?
Seems like the person is putting the sun glasses on, so the arm is diagonal...

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2370/ucla01detalle.jpg)

Frame 02:
This is the only frame (with 7) where the misterious face can be seen.
By chance, is the only frame that cannot be found with an acceptable quality.
Sun glasses?

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6346/ucla02detalle.jpg)

Frame 03:
Feet? Sorry to say this but IMO the head have feet here. The bodyguards are more misterious to me. And the lack of any pic of that.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5013/ucla03detalle.jpg)

Frame 04:
Sun glasses again?

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7935/ucla04detalle.jpg)

Frame 05:
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7937/ucla05detalle.jpg)

Frame 06:
Ponytail?

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7839/ucla06detalle.jpg)

Frame 07:
Moved
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8115/ucla07detalle.jpg)

Frame 08:
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6206/ucla08detalle.jpg)

I see clearly both bodyguards putting off their jackets to hide someone.

I was really starting too Lose Hope. but after seeing this Im ABSOLUTELY SURE MJ is Alive!!!  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 14, 2010, 06:49:07 AM
so who is so important that at a time when someone is being taken to hospital in an emergency, they emerge from a packed ambulance all covered up?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 14, 2010, 09:55:53 AM
where do you see murray???
The guy in the white shirt?


Has anybody other pictures of the ambulance leaving michaels home?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Datroot on February 14, 2010, 09:57:29 AM
There should be absolutely no reason for anyone to be getting out of that amblance shielded by a jacket.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sabrina on February 14, 2010, 10:10:14 AM
I can't see anything please someone mark in red MJ ?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 10:36:35 AM
Here you are...

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/16/ucla02650red.gif)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Hoaxornot on February 14, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
Murray is on the left with white t shirt, red inscriptions
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: MJsbasheret on February 14, 2010, 11:02:52 AM
Interesting.....I was looking at the guy coming out of the ambulance with a Fedora, white tee and being shielded by the man with a coat in front of him!  THAT looks more like MJ than the other guy!
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 11:11:23 AM
But this is not a man going out with a fedora, that´s the security guard stepping ahead while putting his jacket off to shield someone who we have never seen, as there´s no latter pics.

Here you are more pics:

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8063/frame8x2.jpg)

See on the second one the 2 security guards. What seems someone going out is the jacket pulled back.

And this is what I see on t-shirt by the way.

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2659/ucla04detallecamiseta.jpg)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 14, 2010, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Here you are...

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/16/ucla02650red.gif)

I don't belive that this is michael...
I believe that it is the guy coming out covered by the jackets... he has very small arms..
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Hoaxornot on February 14, 2010, 11:34:29 AM
One more thing.. do we have more footage of when the ambulance was going to the hospital or arriving?
How many people were inside the ambulance?
I see Dr Murray and security guards.. Were they following in another car?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 14, 2010, 11:36:55 AM
Why do you think that it is the bodyguard who is coming out of the ambulance?!! :?:  :?:
Does he have long hair like the person who is coming out of the ambulance?

Look at this foto...
Also very suspicious: Why is the FIRST bodyguard, which is normally always on the side of michael and the other bodyguards look around for other persons or paparazzis, looking behind him?
Who is the person or what thing caught his attention?!?!?
Michael coming out of the ambulance?= ;-)

Look at his hairs!!!
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 11:42:41 AM
I don´t think the bodyguard is coming out.
I never said that.
He´s going ahead the protected person, who we cannot see.
And his hands and jacket move backwards, while he is aproaching to the ambo.

I don´t understand where you see the hair and cannot see the bodyguard.
Where is the hair?

This is the last frame (8), the clearer about the 2nd guard:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6206/ucla08detalle.jpg)

We all agree that they are protecting someone, and that´s the WEIRDEST.
But we cannot see even a thin hair of that person, just the guards.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 11:56:11 AM
Here you are this

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8504/ucla02650bodyguards8.gif)

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2726/ucla02650bodyguards.jpg)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5084/ucla02650bodyguards8.jpg)

Sorry I have to go now. But I´d love to keep on talking aout it latter...  ;)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 14, 2010, 12:03:38 PM
Ok this is what I see...
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 01:42:24 PM
Sorry but I can´t see another person here...

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1203/ucla03650bodyguards.jpg)

I understand what you mean, and I see and illusion of someone hidding his head under the jacket, but I just see it´s an "illusion" (never better said). It doesn´t match with the rest.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 14, 2010, 01:58:52 PM
is the person coming out backwards?

but why - whats going on

and how many pp in the back
cm
mj
2 ambulance crew
2 bodyguards

6 pp in the back - its like a mini bus
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 02:04:46 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
is the person coming out backwards?

I think is he backwards gesture of the hand putting of the jacket.
Not the bodyguard himself.
But I´m not shure about that.

Quote from: "the arabian nights"
and how many pp in the back
cm
mj
2 ambulance crew
2 bodyguards

6 pp in the back - its like a mini bus

Yes... that weird or weird.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 02:06:36 PM
I have another one to see in detail the shape of the bodyguard.

(And I edited the shape of the previous animation up there with this better drawing)

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8504/ucla02650bodyguards8.gif)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 02:49:46 PM
What I finally see is that the person who made the photos, took good care to stop shooting at that moment, and took good care to provide bad quality in the shots where the face of the stretcher was to be more visible.

So a theory:
This is part of the hoax confusion.
The face is an UCLA worker´s face, but the images where published that way to confuse and distract. Maybe to distract from the other fact that someone really hidding was to get off the ambo...

My head spins!  :lol:
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 14, 2010, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
is the person coming out backwards?

I think is he backwards gesture of the hand putting of the jacket.
Not the bodyguard himself.
But I´m not shure about that.

Quote from: "the arabian nights"
and how many pp in the back
cm
mj
2 ambulance crew
2 bodyguards

6 pp in the back - its like a mini bus

Yes... that weird or weird.
from your pic ( ta) it would seem that he is exiting backwards from the ambulance with he coat open shielding this is strange, why not walk front ways - shielding
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: somekindofsign on February 14, 2010, 05:08:41 PM
Now, yes I see he may move or start to walk backwards.
Just a pitty we don´t have the following instants.
If so, if the security guard walks backwards, I guess he´s leaving room for the person getting out of the the van.

I hope I´m not wrong if I say he´s leaving room for Mike  ;)

I think we´re not going to deduce much more from this pictures, just that...
There was a misterious passenger on the ambo.

From there, two possibilities:
A. Mike is dead, so is not a big deal who is in the ambo.
    The paparazzi is not the best precisely.
B. This is a hoax.
    They have took care with details to don´t reveal the hoax but promt questions.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on February 15, 2010, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Now, yes I see he may move or start to walk backwards.
Just a pitty we don´t have the following instants.
If so, if the security guard walks backwards, I guess he´s leaving room for the person getting out of the the van.

I hope I´m not wrong if I say he´s leaving room for Mike  ;)

I think we´re not going to deduce much more from this pictures, just that...
There was a misterious passenger on the ambo.

From there, two possibilities:
A. Mike is dead, so is not a big deal who is in the ambo.
    The paparazzi is not the best precisely.
B. This is a hoax.
    They have took care with details to don´t reveal the hoax but promt questions.
it is strange that the tape is cut just there as you say,it is not a nature reaction to exist backwards from an ambulance unless you are pulling someone out or helping someone out, but in this case he is he has he jacket spread, very tricky move i say, and he was not looking behind him he could have fallen upon (mj) someone, the person in the ambulance must have been important, the guy existing backwards could not have seen the other pap taking a vid recording because that was not in his view.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: the arabian nights on April 04, 2010, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
look at 2.23 or abouts
the guy coming out being shield. just to let you know i have post this on another thread

[youtube:10ixbblt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFyxpQMdKM&feature=related[/youtube:10ixbblt]

I have seen this many times, but I have always doubt that this is michael because I have always seen black hands... but this time i could see his thin white arms... and the hair!!!! 8-)

i now believe that the person coming out was Randy


Family lawyer Brian Oxman said the star collapsed at his rented home in LA’s Holmby Hills area while brother Randy was present.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... z0kAIX1GBM (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2501914/Michael-Jacksons-last-moments.html#ixzz0kAIX1GBM)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: je on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
UCLA's other angle...what i see in the photos below is someone's
head and the emt's arm on the person's chest...
screenshots:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/3492exy.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/9qgtgg.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2iact2g.jpg)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/t4w748.jpg)

(http://picasion.com/pic20/1625659d8a8b6d6cf4e75753d4538b25.gif) (http://picasion.com/)
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Jacksonology on April 06, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: "je"
UCLA's other angle...what i see in the photos below is someone's
head and the emt's arm on the person's chest...
screenshots:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/3492exy.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/9qgtgg.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2iact2g.jpg)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/t4w748.jpg)

(http://picasion.com/pic20/1625659d8a8b6d6cf4e75753d4538b25.gif) (http://picasion.com/)
so, what does this prove?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Tina K. on April 07, 2010, 01:38:01 AM
If this IS Michaels head, then he WAS bald.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Raven on April 07, 2010, 06:58:54 AM
What are the bright orange bits next to what appears a torso on the zoomed in photo?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: simplyme on April 08, 2010, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
look at 2.23 or abouts
the guy coming out being shield. just to let you know i have post this on another thread

[youtube:1krtd83r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFyxpQMdKM&feature=related[/youtube:1krtd83r]

I have seen this many times, but I have always doubt that this is michael because I have always seen black hands... but this time i could see his thin white arms... and the hair!!!! 8-)

i now believe that the person coming out was Randy


Family lawyer Brian Oxman said the star collapsed at his rented home in LA’s Holmby Hills area while brother Randy was present.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... z0kAIX1GBM (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2501914/Michael-Jacksons-last-moments.html#ixzz0kAIX1GBM)

I don't think Brian said that when he was talking to the press directly after.  That's why I don't like print accounts.  They twist and assume things.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: simplyme on April 08, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
I asked a question in this post - but deleted it.  Figured it out.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: awesome1 on April 08, 2010, 07:05:01 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
If this IS Michaels head, then he WAS bald.

not quite..... there is hair there....
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 08, 2010, 07:18:06 PM
If the patient was in as critical of condition as Michael supposedly was, it didn't look like they were in too much of a hurry...and the guys at the back of the ambulance weren't in any rush either. If it were me I'd be racing to get him inside. I don't know if this is Michael or not on the stretcher but there's nothing wrong with having shorter hair than what we are accustomed to seeing. I'm sure he was just as beautiful as ever. Blessings.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: simplyme on April 08, 2010, 07:46:49 PM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
What do you think about this one?!? Where is the ambulance?!?

Where did you get this photo.  I think I have it in my other computer, but I can't get at it right now.  I don't remember where I got it to begin with.
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Sternschen87 on April 09, 2010, 06:06:19 AM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
What do you think about this one?!? Where is the ambulance?!?

Where did you get this photo.  I think I have it in my other computer, but I can't get at it right now.  I don't remember where I got it to begin with.

which picture?
Title: Re: UPDATE:please watch!!!! michael SITTING in ambulance
Post by: Tina K. on April 09, 2010, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: "awesome1"
Quote from: "Tina K."
If this IS Michaels head, then he WAS bald.

not quite..... there is hair there....

Well, it's not black hair then. ;)
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