Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Harry on February 11, 2010, 01:44:40 PM
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I dont know if someone saw it before, I didint read the entire threads but did you notice that this guy is Conray Murray on June 25th. Is it possible to read whats on his t-shirt ??
(http://exploringthehoax.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ucla_neu_gif.gif)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5430/murray2.png)
And are the paramedics the same as on the 'last' MJ picture??? we cant really tell but for the guy we see, it seems like the second paramedic from the left.
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=3031)
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INTERESTING QUESTION......XX
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Has anyone noticed from the ambulance photo, that there was a catheter in the "left" side of his neck? I assume that taking a photo switches the sides around ( eg when I look in my webcam and hold my right hand up it looks like I am holding my left up) so actually it would be his right side based on this theory??
Now look at the autopsy report..
page 1, section 5 part b
Intravascular catheters in left neck and both femoral regions. Shouldn't it be right neck? :roll:
Any thoughts?
Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere.
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Hm, can't get it better.
I see something like
STOP
(a big) %
HV25 or AVZS?
And on the bottom it looks to me like Michael's 1998, but that's pure imagination, I guess.
I'd love to read "STOP NWO", but I just CAN'T!
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i was wondering was there someone else coming out of the ambulance with there head covered?
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yes, pp think its a body guard but ????
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The second word on the second line is clearly 'Life' but for the rest :S
Maybe the final word is 'bye'
It looks like a ED Hardy T-shirt, ill look what I can find.
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i dont see the strecther raised at all....ppl said it was sitting up i dont see that i see the sheets and bed is laying in a down postion in between the first two guys
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Darn, I can't read it... but hmm, there was another person getting out of the ambulance.. who?..
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Yeah, who's getting out & why would they need to be covered by the other guys jacket & why are they hiding their face? Suspicious...
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Didn't Murray flee from the scene and dissapear?
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Didn't Murray flee from the scene and dissapear?
This image proves us otherwise.
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Murray disappeared AFTER the hospital
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Murray disappeared AFTER the hospital
So he tried to save MJ life..
This piece of evidence is more in favor in mj death than mj being alive in my opinion!
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Yes who IS coming out of the back of the ambulance. I have always wondered about this because why in the hell is the person trying to shield them? :? :lol: :lol: You know how some of us have been saying that it was Michael standing or sitting up on a stretcher the ponytail, shades , and lipstick. Well maybe its MJ stepping out the back of the ambulance.
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Harry » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:44 pm
I dont know if someone saw it before, I didint read the entire threads but did you notice that this guy is Conray Murray on June 25th. Is it possible to read whats on his t-shirt ??
How do you know if it is him for sure?
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Harry » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:44 pm
I dont know if someone saw it before, I didint read the entire threads but did you notice that this guy is Conray Murray on June 25th. Is it possible to read whats on his t-shirt ??
How do you know if it is him for sure?
I would bet my life on it, just watch murray enough and you will know its him
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wonders if someone lightened this picture? hes always looked "too dark" to be mj but in here i can see he actually is much lighter :?
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I swear I see MJ sitting up on that stretcher (in that slow motion video above) as the ambulance crew and Murray are pushing him into UCLA. I know this has been mentioned before in a thread. Gosh, if he was dead or near dead there is no way he would be well enough to sit up on a stretcher----even after forceful CPR!
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i see that too ^ i see sunglasses and black hair lol. thats a start!!!!
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my[KING]"]i see that too ^ i see sunglasses and black hair lol. thats a start!!!!
But he seems black.
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my[KING]"]i see that too ^ i see sunglasses and black hair lol. thats a start!!!!
But he seems black.
He has a lighter complexion than the men around him. Plus, you only have a millisecond glimpse of him. That is definitely MJ's hairstyle and physique (what one can make out, of course). The man who is sitting up is definitely on the gurney-but quickly lies down again.....I suspect it is MJ----who else would it be????
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And did you notice that they arent running at all. :?
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I see them trying to cover or shield with their jackets but I mean, what for?! If the man is on the stretcher and this is an emergency why all of that? They didn't do all of that when he was on the stretcher when his hair caught on fire. /b]
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my[KING]"]i see that too ^ i see sunglasses and black hair lol. thats a start!!!!
But he seems black.
He has a lighter complexion than the men around him. Plus, you only have a millisecond glimpse of him. That is definitely MJ's hairstyle and physique (what one can make out, of course). The man who is sitting up is definitely on the gurney-but quickly lies down again.....I suspect it is MJ----who else would it be????
yeah it must be him...because I can't see the leg walking of this ponytail-man
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I dont think anyone is siting, its just somone pulling the strecher and looking behind where is going...
And look at the Dr.Conrad he is constatnly looking down at a strecher like making sure MJ is ok or whatever...
And the second paramedic on the left that is pushing the strecher is definitelly the same guy we see in the suposedly "Fake" picutre, just look at his hair line from the back is 100% him..
What all this prove from above is that all this might be real... and we just try to see things that favors he is alive....
We got prove that picture can be made inside without flash, and the ambulance inside picture are the same if you study them closly, just one is in the dark with insturments lighted but just follow the shape of what is around it and 100% same ambulance...
I really want to belive that our MJ is alive which why im here but you people try not too see the facts in front of you and just see what you want to see.
Example of the inside ambulance picture with smudged face which we know clearly somone blured the face in photoshop to ask medical person about the ambulance equipement without exposing MJ face,, and look where that picutre spread like wildfire.. and people claiming that is the actual real picture and someone photoshoped MJ pic over. common people be real.. and stop dreaming...
I love MJ as much as all of you but just dont see what you want to see...
Sorry for my Englsish.
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[bWe got prove that picture can be made inside without flash, and the ambulance inside picture are the same if you study them closly, just one is in the dark with insturments lighted but just follow the shape of what is around it and 100% same ambulance...
I really want to belive that our MJ is alive which why im here but you people try not too see the facts in front of you and just see what you want to see.][/b]
Okay, you say "You" people. It may not be everyone.
So, what facts do you see so far?
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Yeah, who's getting out & why would they need to be covered by the other guys jacket & why are they hiding their face? Suspicious...
exactly
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Yeah, who's getting out & why would they need to be covered by the other guys jacket & why are they hiding their face? Suspicious...
exactly
Either MJ or a double - they need to make a switch inside the hospital so there would have to be two MJs in the ambulance.
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[bWe got prove that picture can be made inside without flash, and the ambulance inside picture are the same if you study them closly, just one is in the dark with insturments lighted but just follow the shape of what is around it and 100% same ambulance...
I really want to belive that our MJ is alive which why im here but you people try not too see the facts in front of you and just see what you want to see.][/b]
Okay, you say "You" people. It may not be everyone.
So, what facts do you see so far?
Well just a fact that the paramedic that pushes the strecher is actually the same guy in the famous last MJ picture, which if you think about it, only proves that the picture is real...
And the fact that the ambulance picutre is indentical of inside insturments..
And nobody is siting on the strecher, that is someone pulling the strecher and looking in the back where is he going..
Same as DR.Conrad is constanlty looking down at the strecher making sure that "who" ever is on it it's ok or whatever..
This is just couple of facts regarding this thread..
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Why can't i find the original UCLA footage??? seems like a lot of videos have been pulled.
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Harry » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:44 pm
I dont know if someone saw it before, I didint read the entire threads but did you notice that this guy is Conray Murray on June 25th. Is it possible to read whats on his t-shirt ??
How do you know if it is him for sure?
I would bet my life on it, just watch murray enough and you will know its him
He's actually the first thing I noticed..definately him..IMO
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I dont know if someone saw it before, I didint read the entire threads but did you notice that this guy is Conray Murray on June 25th. Is it possible to read whats on his t-shirt ??
(http://exploringthehoax.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ucla_neu_gif.gif)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5430/murray2.png)
And are the paramedics the same as on the 'last' MJ picture??? we cant really tell but for the guy we see, it seems like the second paramedic from the left.
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=3031)
u can actually see MJ sitting up! :lol: :lol: :lol: looking around then laying back down!!!
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[bWe got prove that picture can be made inside without flash, and the ambulance inside picture are the same if you study them closly, just one is in the dark with insturments lighted but just follow the shape of what is around it and 100% same ambulance...
I really want to belive that our MJ is alive which why im here but you people try not too see the facts in front of you and just see what you want to see.][/b]
Okay, you say "You" people. It may not be everyone.
So, what facts do you see so far?
Well just a fact that the paramedic that pushes the strecher is actually the same guy in the famous last MJ picture, which if you think about it, only proves that the picture is real...
And the fact that the ambulance picutre is indentical of inside insturments..
And nobody is siting on the strecher, that is someone pulling the strecher and looking in the back where is he going..
Same as DR.Conrad is constanlty looking down at the strecher making sure that "who" ever is on it it's ok or whatever..
This is just couple of facts regarding this thread..
I´m sorry to disagree.... I´m not completely sure he´s alive.... but if there is something fake here is that photo! I think you´re the first person I hear who think is real....
BTW they said they took the photo while the ambulance was going out of the house.... from outside.... not inside... are we talking about the same photo?
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What all this prove from above is that all this might be real... and we just try to see things that favors he is alive....
I agree. sadly.
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What all this prove from above is that all this might be real... and we just try to see things that favors he is alive....
I agree. sadly.
That's why we are on a Hoax site, because we favour him being alive and with respect we have unearthed shedloads of evidence which shows just that. We have yet to uncover evidence showing that he died.
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I agree, Datroot... He's alive until proven dead.
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I´ve posted this on the other thread about UCLA pic, but I think is going to be more usefull here:
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2659/ucla04detallecamiseta.jpg)
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somekindofsign » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:37 pm
I´ve posted this on the other thread about UCLA pic, but I think is going to be more usefull here:
So, does this suppose to be a message or clue?
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I´ve posted this on the other thread about UCLA pic, but I think is going to be more usefull here:
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2659/ucla04detallecamiseta.jpg)
no i think it just says don ed hardy.
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Yes, perfectly...
And what does it mean, please?
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Yes, perfectly...
And what does it mean, please?
you mean what means don ed hardy? that is a clothing brand. Ed hardy :)
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I think the shirt reads: " Don it Hardy".....a play on words between Don Hardy (the store brand) and "Don it hardy"----to wear(or wrap one's self up in) it boldly, bravely.
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Here it is.....
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:lol: We´re just the BEST! Iuhuuu!
Mistery unfolded!
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Lol thanks guys, its the T-SHIRT:)
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And it's supposed to be a hospital, & whenever an ambulance pulls in, everything is supposed to be hurriedly done as it's an emergency. But no, not this scene as some people are so engrossed in covering something/someone. And it seems like there's no hospital doctor/emergency doctor-staff around to greet the patient.
There are so many people, but no medical staff surrounding the patient
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And I have a question, why we cant see the whole video when theyre arriving at the hospital? Is it somewhere?
Its weird!
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Hm, can't get it better.
I see something like
STOP
(a big) %
HV25 or AVZS?
And on the bottom it looks to me like Michael's 1998, but that's pure imagination, I guess.
I'd love to read "STOP NWO", but I just CAN'T!
It was so far from it ahah..! nice try though:P
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Good job on finding the shirt maker! Looks like MJ may have given him this shirt? Never seen CM in EH type t-shirt. But then again - we have not seen him much until now.
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Yes, or Michael give it to him..... or it´s a lie that he didn´t get paid..... because ED HARDY is not cheap.... so.... the broken doctor wouldn´t be able to afford it.....