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Title: TIAI February 12
Post by: alive on February 12, 2010, 03:56:28 AM
http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm)

they are trying to tell us something but what?  :?
Title: Re: TIAI new redirect coroner again
Post by: MJSTAR on February 12, 2010, 05:59:25 AM
There is a topic started here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5440 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5440)
Not sure yet hopefully we can work it out.
Title: Re: TIAI new redirect coroner again
Post by: loyalfan on February 12, 2010, 06:06:27 AM
what does this mean?????
Title: TIAI February 12
Post by: MJSTAR on February 12, 2010, 05:17:59 AM
Here is the new redirect, http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm),

Public inquiry form, Obviously we need to enquire about something we have so many quereis were to start. HELP! Everyone what are they trying to tell us.  :?   :?:   :?

Who has a plan?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: me2 on February 12, 2010, 05:27:09 AM
death certificate maybe, or proof of death letter.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: MJSTAR on February 12, 2010, 05:33:18 AM
That would be a great place to start, that'd pretty much clear things up from the get go, we hope Good idea! Well I'm from Australia I can't enquire my state is clearly not listed on the options, how's about yourself? :D

And what organization would we be suggesting we were from?   ;)  ;)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: mjsweety on February 12, 2010, 05:47:54 AM
on the enquiry form: the seal on the left hand side is not the same as the seal on the autopsy report.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: me2 on February 12, 2010, 05:54:24 AM
im from the netherlands, we dont need to fill in an organization no * :)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: MJSTAR on February 12, 2010, 06:10:01 AM
You can put your email address maybe we should just try that. I'm thinking TS or S.T.U.D.Y is wanting lots of enquries to take place I mean redirecting/posting it here YES?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: me2 on February 12, 2010, 06:22:40 AM
or he wants to show you cant request for autopsy reports
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: ralu on February 12, 2010, 06:31:50 AM
Do we know WHO asked for the coroners assistance in MJ's case, as this inquiry form requests? Some specific UCLA representative?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: superflysister81 on February 12, 2010, 06:34:31 AM
guys, look at this :
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: MJEnjoyYourself on February 12, 2010, 06:38:30 AM
yes! i had reading in other post here that the logo in the autopsy´s report looks different
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 12, 2010, 06:40:21 AM
To me it looks the same...  :?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: superflysister81 on February 12, 2010, 06:41:21 AM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
To me it looks the same...  :?

look at the symbols in it ;)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: MJSTAR on February 12, 2010, 06:43:51 AM
Ok so so TS last post indicated that there would be updates that would show strong evidence that this was a hoax and against the murder theory. The last three redirects have all been surrounding the coroners office, the coroners report, the flyer, the public inquiry form. Maybe we could put all this information together and make a list of the strong evidence TS is talking about.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: MJEnjoyYourself on February 12, 2010, 06:48:28 AM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
To me it looks the same...  :?

there aren´t the same, look the right pictures, the second on the logo in colour is the first in the black and white logo, and the shape of the building on the colour logo is also different at the black and white one.

And of course, the person in the middle of the logo don´t seem to me the same, at least the head and the halo..
.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: superflysister81 on February 12, 2010, 06:54:28 AM
the first two symbols on the right are different
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Jude on February 12, 2010, 07:12:25 AM
you guys are reading way too much into this,its the same, the black and white has been photo copied, maybe a dozen times, and is why it looks distorted.

we need to move on to more concrete things, like my big question is, on the autopsy report there are 3 versions of his name,is this valid? I thought any goverment document had to be accuret with the full correct name.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: MJSTAR on February 12, 2010, 07:40:16 AM
Quote from: "ralu"
Do we know WHO asked for the coroners assistance in MJ's case, as this inquiry form requests? Some specific UCLA representative?


I was reading the autopsy report looking for who assigned the coroner to the case and what ucla dr's were mentioned, the only one mentioned is the doctor that prenounced him dead,  Dr Cooper I'm thimking this is him
http://www.physiology.ucla.edu/faculty/cooper.html (http://www.physiology.ucla.edu/faculty/cooper.html)

Dr Cooper is linked to the department at ucla that Mr David Geffen has made a $200 million dollar donation the largest donation of it's kind in the us.

Another topic here started by SmellyJelly touches on this, and geffen's links with Michael Jackson and TMZ

http://mjhf.redwebs.nl/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4289 (http://mjhf.redwebs.nl/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4289)

Maybe relevant, or way off the beaten track but still worth looking into.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2010, 07:55:43 AM
Quote from: "superflysister81"
the first two symbols on the right are different

the symbols are LA seal, there might be two in use at the moment, although formally i understand the old seal was replaced with the new one in 2004, but still some of the offices are using old seal.

http://www.laalmanac.com/government/gl05.htm (http://www.laalmanac.com/government/gl05.htm)

i have checked other coroner's reports and still the old one is being used. In "MJ" report there are actually both used, at the begining it is the old one and then starting at about page 41+ the new one... i am not sure this is a right trail
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: superflysister81 on February 12, 2010, 07:57:17 AM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "superflysister81"
the first two symbols on the right are different

the symbols are LA seal, there might be two in use at the moment, although formally i understand the old seal was replaced with the new one in 2004, but still some of the offices are using old seal.

http://www.laalmanac.com/government/gl05.htm (http://www.laalmanac.com/government/gl05.htm)

i have checked other coroner's reports and still the old one is being used. In "MJ" report there are actually both used, at the begining it is the old one and then starting at about page 41+ the new one... i am not sure this is a right trail

ok, thank you  ForstAMoon!
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: somekindofsign on February 12, 2010, 08:17:24 AM
The differences are not a distortion matter,
unless this photocopier machine is creative  :lol:  :lol:

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9775/coroner1.jpg)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 12, 2010, 08:29:32 AM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "superflysister81"
the first two symbols on the right are different

the symbols are LA seal, there might be two in use at the moment, although formally i understand the old seal was replaced with the new one in 2004, but still some of the offices are using old seal.

http://www.laalmanac.com/government/gl05.htm (http://www.laalmanac.com/government/gl05.htm)

i have checked other coroner's reports and still the old one is being used. In "MJ" report there are actually both used, at the begining it is the old one and then starting at about page 41+ the new one... i am not sure this is a right trail

I'm not doubting you but it just seems strange that some would still be using a seal that was replaced 6 years ago. Thank you for this insight.

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep/15/local/me-seal15 (http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep/15/local/me-seal15)

Officials Vote to Replace County Seal
Supervisors decide 3-2 to remove a cross and make other changes. But the debate continues.
September 15, 2004|Sue Fox, Times Staff Writer

After four months of often strident debate, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors stripped a tiny cross from the county seal Tuesday to avoid a lawsuit.

By a 3-2 vote, the supervisors adopted a new seal that, from a distance, looks a lot like the old one. It still features a hodgepodge of images, such as a Spanish galleon and a prize-winning dairy cow, meant to reflect local history. But the cross is gone. A drawing of the San Gabriel Mission was added to the seal.

For The Record
Los Angeles Times Friday September 24, 2004 Home Edition Main News Part A Page 2 National Desk 2 inches; 81 words Type of Material: Correction
County seal -- An article in the Sept. 15 California section about the debate over the Los Angeles County seal misquoted Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky as saying, "My religion is my business and your religion is your business, and it's not the government's business to make my religion your religion or vice versa." He actually said, "My religion is my business and your religion is your business, and it's not the government's business to make my religion your business or vice versa."
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: ForstAMoon on February 12, 2010, 08:42:51 AM
Quote
I'm not doubting you but it just seems strange that some would still be using a seal that was replaced 6 years ago. Thank you for this insight.

Fully agree, very strange. I also thought initially the two-seal stuff is a clue, but after having done some more researching it seems that the old seal is still in use  :? . here is the link to another report from 2008 with old seal
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye ... 2dfw2.html (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1027082dfw2.html)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 12, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
Hey
I have found something strange!

Where is CRAIG HARVEY listed? :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Kirsche on February 12, 2010, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: "mjsweety"
on the enquiry form: the seal on the left hand side is not the same as the seal on the autopsy report.


maybe this is what they trying to show us?

Or maybe he should ask, why the seals are so different? I would like to know how they want to explain this to us :D
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Game Player on February 12, 2010, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
The differences are not a distortion matter,
unless this photocopier machine is creative  :lol:  :lol:

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9775/coroner1.jpg)


Pictures don't just change by themselves  ;)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 12, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Hey
I have found something strange!

Where is CRAIG HARVEY listed? :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:


Yea, I noticed that too.

I also remember reading somewhere...and I think Im thinking of Craig Harvey, although it could be someone else, but Im pretty sure its Craig Harvey.....that he has done some work for movies and TV......if I am thinking of the worng person, please correct me, because Id like to know who it is then that has connections to movies and TV if its not him.

It was someone connected to the MJ case....
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 12, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
YES!!!

I AM CORRECT!!!!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/)

and

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/resume (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/resume)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: neversaynever on February 12, 2010, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
YES!!!

I AM CORRECT!!!!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/)

and

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/resume (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/resume)


And he worked for Stephen King - who worked for MJ........
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Datroot on February 12, 2010, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Hey
I have found something strange!

Where is CRAIG HARVEY listed? :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:


Yea, I noticed that too.

I also remember reading somewhere...and I think Im thinking of Craig Harvey, although it could be someone else, but Im pretty sure its Craig Harvey.....that he has done some work for movies and TV......if I am thinking of the worng person, please correct me, because Id like to know who it is then that has connections to movies and TV if its not him.

It was someone connected to the MJ case....

Yes you can call Craig Harvey a "performer" of sorts - he plays his part well does he not?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on February 12, 2010, 12:15:14 PM
Quote from: "neversaynever"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
YES!!!

I AM CORRECT!!!!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/)

and

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/resume (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/resume)


And he worked for Stephen King - who worked for MJ........

Hummmm interesting 8-)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: _EarthSonG_ on February 12, 2010, 12:22:46 PM
Did someone Email them about the logo and the death certificate?
To know if it's legal to have 2 differents name and 2 differents logo?
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Hoaxornot on February 12, 2010, 12:28:31 PM
As i see it , he is only a technical advisor... just telling the film director how a crime scene or an autopsy is made... I have a friend who was an advisor for Saving Private Ryan just because he was in the war
Like they used real priests to be advisors for the Exorcist
Nothing strange to me
If he was an actor.. then that is very different
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 12, 2010, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: "Hoaxornot"
As i see it , he is only a technical advisor... just telling the film director how a crime scene or an autopsy is made...

Yes, and that would be of use don't you think? ;)
Combine it with a few good lawyers that can make legal loopholes and you've got yourself a hoax!
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Jacksonology on February 12, 2010, 12:47:12 PM
So this redirect is too show the Diffrences between the Seal on the Autopsy and the One on the Website??? to confirm it was a fake???
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 12, 2010, 01:14:39 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
So this redirect is too show the Diffrences between the Seal on the Autopsy and the One on the Website??? to confirm it was a fake???


Possibly....but we arent sure yet...it would seem that way though.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: beyondbrothers on February 12, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
Only the fields with the asterisks are required so you dont need to put in an organization name just a name and email address. I asked them what is the procedure for releasing a death certificate and in what circumstances would two separate death certificates be issued for the same person.... :? posting.php?mode=reply&f=72&t=5460# (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/posting.php?mode=reply&f=72&t=5460#)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: beyondbrothers on February 12, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
Actually there is a guy named Kevin Harvey who is a celebrity photographer and who has taken pictures of MJ...he bears a remarkable resemblance to...what's his name? Craig? I read and swa that in a hoax vid somewhere...also Craig Harvey was at the memorial on 7/7 :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: beyondbrothers on February 12, 2010, 02:09:48 PM
...so the Coroner responded to me...they said death certificates are not released from this office...call the health department... :|  :|
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: still beLIEve on February 13, 2010, 02:34:30 AM
I still wonder why he answer all the mails......
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Jacksonology on February 13, 2010, 09:36:04 AM
well IMO, yesterday's redirect was too show us that the SEALS don't match on the Autopsy that is on the OFFICAL WEBSITE.  :geek:
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Ninanina on February 13, 2010, 09:58:18 AM
Quote from: "beyondbrothers"
...so the Coroner responded to me...they said death certificates are not released from this office...call the health department... :|  :|

Can you post, what they wrote exactly? A sort of "proof"?

Here are the two seals:
(http://caosblog.com/images/cross2seals.jpg)

Someone on aother forum said, she saw a another autopsy report from 2008 where also both seals were used.
Well, I asked her for a proof, too ;-)
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Datroot on February 13, 2010, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: "beyondbrothers"
Actually there is a guy named Kevin Harvey who is a celebrity photographer and who has taken pictures of MJ...he bears a remarkable resemblance to...what's his name? Craig? I read and swa that in a hoax vid somewhere...also Craig Harvey was at the memorial on 7/7 :roll:  :roll:

I thought I read on the old forum that Kevin is Craig.s son.
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: paula-c on February 18, 2010, 08:36:55 AM
I'm trying to understand, placed in the autopsy report of a stamp is no longer used? :?:
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on February 18, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
The differences are not a distortion matter,
unless this photocopier machine is creative  :lol:  :lol:

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9775/coroner1.jpg)that's the old seal , they changed it .
why would they use the old seal on michael's .
Title: Re: OMG ANOTHER NEW REDIRECT, AGAIN LINKING THE CORONERS OFFICE
Post by: Grace on February 19, 2010, 12:19:15 AM
Why would they use two seals and even an outdated one?

Millions of answers...pick one...
- because left hand does not know what right hand is doing
- because information that the old one is invalid did not pass through
- because there is only one and the other is fake
- because both belong to Hollywood and 2 competing studios were in charge
- because one part was finished way before 2009
- because the secretary had a quarrel with his/her boss and wanted to poke him
- because the secretary fell in love with his/her boss and lost his/her mind pouring salt in his/her coffee and picking the wrong blanks and seals after she/he said "you know, you are the first sunshine in my day - every day"
.....  :D
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