Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: loyalfan on February 12, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
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I FOUND ON YOU TUBE.......DONT KNOW HOW I AM NOT CLEVER ON LAPTOP......A VIDEO THAT SAID BARRY SHAW WAS HIRED BY MICHEAL TO SHOW UP INSTEAD OF HIM......O.K. I GOOGLED BARRY SHAW MICHEAL JACKSON IMPERSONATOR.............NOTHING..!!!!!! JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THIS......MAYBE I GOT IT WRONG...SORRY IF I DID......XXXXX
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a link would help! LOL!!
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WILL LOOK AGAIN BEAR WITH ME,I AM NOT CLEVER AT ALL THIS......BACK SOON XXX
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o.k. found it...!!!! it on you tube...its by MegaDuke......and if you type in video about barry shaw it comes up....hope that helps......xxxxx
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Is this it?
[youtube:3cy3wy7y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEeUjYivVfc[/youtube:3cy3wy7y]
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I just watched and I think all those pics are the real MJ...
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WHEN I TYPE BARRY SHAW I DONT SEE ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE M.J.ARE YOU SURE?THERE IS NAVI AND E CASANOVA WHO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE MICHAEL BUT NO BARRY SHAW.
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Some of those pics might be this mystery guy, but most of them definitely look like Michael to me. & a very good looking Michael too :D
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Not sure what to think. They all look like Michael. But who knows anymore, Michael did have quite a bit of plastic surgery, so anything is possible.
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WELL I THOUGHT THE SAME THING...THAT ITS MICHEAL,,,,,AND I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BARRY SHAW..........AND YES THAT IS THE RIGHT VIDEO THANKS FOR THAT.....XXXX
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no one can duplicate those hands. look carefully
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i think most, if not all are of mj :)
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The hands don't lie. This video would imply that Michael went no where and this guy covered for him. He looks like MJ to me - all the way.
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Its strange this was posted. The night of the Murray day in court. I was thinking about Michael and just trying to remember his face and the thought came to me (Do I really know what he looked like. And I wondered could someone actually have fooled the TII Dancers with an impersonator with features that close to his.
IDK....maybe I'm tweeking now with all the online investigating of the hoax. But the questions came, Do we really know or remember exactly what he looked like. I mean, there are so many impersonators and there are so many different faces of Michael. I'm aware of the fact that all of us can look different in various pictures, but in some of these pics. which are supposed to be Michael, features look different that should not change with position, lighting and age. I've seen pics. of him with totally different shaped eyes, a completely different smile, teeth than what I thought I remembered. I also remember Michael having very distinct eyes. Even his father said there were many MJ impersonators in TII.
I believe that many pics. we've seen that we truly believed were Michael, just wern't! So, I don't know about the name Barry Shaw, but I think it is possible that there is an impersonator or impersonators who looks so much like Michael that its possible to fool even his own family without exposing certain birthmarks. Michael is financially able to
pull anything off. We can argue the point, but we don't know him well enough to prove it for sure without doubt.
Also, just to clarify! E. Cassanove USED to look exactly like Michael, but not anymore!
See for yourself. E. Cass as Michael Jackson starts at 14:52
http://www.mtv.com/videos/punkd-full-ep ... list.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/videos/punkd-full-episode-ep-805/1558719/playlist.jhtml)
For some reason unable to upload the video but it can be seen at this link.
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and so we seem to go around in ever decreasing circles dont we......lol....must go and lie down in a darkened room for a while.....!!!!!!xxxxxx
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I get....well, all of these guys when I type Barry Shaw:
(http://www.wallace.co.uk/assets/BarryShaw-Photo-3.jpg)
(http://www.solts.co.uk/assets/team/barry_shaw.jpg)
(http://www.cob.niu.edu/accy/advisorycouncilphotos/Shaw_Barry.jpg)
And I also get this woman. o.e
(http://www.iol.ie/~rjtechne/millard/nsk54/naoru.jpg)
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INTERESTING!!!! THANKS FOR THAT.....WHAT DO WE CONCLUDE????? THAT THE VIDEO IS ........?????
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:ugeek: :lol:
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No no his name was Buford Nuggywonder
/insert random pictures of MJ over the last decade.
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in that video it was all Michael to my mind
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No no his name was Buford Nuggywonder
/insert random pictures of MJ over the last decade.
Buford Nuggywonder?????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
THAT...........was funny!!!
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I've found him on facebook ...
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=info&ref=search&id=100000671392058
(But I think he's a liar).
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To my the truth are Michaels beautiful eyes and his teets.Thats way I think the imitator where's a mask.
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I asked him to add me but he didn't so far; he uploaded pics of the trial and of London 2009 saying it's him in those pics and not Michael. He said he's been working for Michael since 1994, he says he can't sing or dance, he's just a double.I don't know what to think, I'd like to investigate 8-) I'll let you know if he adds me
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THIS IS NOT SO GOOD NOW ..........DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK GUYS......!!!!!!!
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I asked him to add me but he didn't so far; he uploaded pics of the trial and of London 2009 saying it's him in those pics and not Michael. He said he's been working for Michael since 1994, he says he can't sing or dance, he's just a double.I don't know what to think, I'd like to investigate 8-) I'll let you know if he adds me
So is he claiming he attend the 2005 trial in Michaels place! Personally I think that is very very far fetched. :shock:
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Hmm...the "MJ" with the sunglasses confuses me. :D
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Well, if it`s true that it is actually this guy we all became familiar with since at least 2001 already (remember the autograph sesssion at N.Y. Virgin record store - sky-blue silky dress) and also during the 2005 trials (who would blame him for using a double for these humiliating court appearances?) ...
... well, then why not using him for recent show-ups at rehearsals?
And if so, is it so far fetched that this would give a perfect explanation for everything what followed?
Assuming he stayed in the house that night, probably having another plastic surgery done (where Propofol was used), something went wrong resulting in "the gentleman not breathing" ... At the hospital, even the family might have been baffled. And maybe the real MJ who probably did business (or even slept) somewhere else wasn`t able to prevent Jermaine`s statement in time ...
Oooh, excuse me, Jackson family for just thinking this way ...
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I asked him to add me but he didn't so far; he uploaded pics of the trial and of London 2009 saying it's him in those pics and not Michael. He said he's been working for Michael since 1994, he says he can't sing or dance, he's just a double.I don't know what to think, I'd like to investigate 8-) I'll let you know if he adds me
So is he claiming he attend the 2005 trial in Michaels place! Personally I think that is very very far fetched. :shock:
Well, he's got an album with Michael's pic ( but he claimed it's him and not Michael in those pics) and some pics are of the 2005 trial. It seems weird to say the least to me that Michael sent him to the trial. He said he was Michael's personal double and he played MJ with his fans and I'm ok with that, but going to court? well, ...WOW :o
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This does not sound so far-fetched as it seems. I've heard that he used doubles for years too. But how would it tie in with the hoax?
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This is a discouraging day for me :( So many LIES.....GAMES......my heart hurts.....all i know is I love Michael and im tired. I want this to come to a end so we can all go back to living.
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ME TOO...I AM EXHAUSTED FROM ALL THIS.........CANT SLEEP.....CRY ALL THE TIME.....DONT KNOW WHO...OR...WHAT TO BELIEVE........COME BACK SOON MICHEAL.........I MUST LIE DOWN IN THE PADDED CELL FOR A WHILE......XXXX
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There are some possibilities to consider:
1)He can be a fake...
2)He can be a real MJ´s double
3) He can be MJ diguised as a non MJ
I think it´s easy for us to get an answer. Why don´t ask Larry King to interview this Barry Shaw guy?
We can do it sending messages in LK´s blog. I think it would be very intersting because we can take of the mask of a fake or just see our MJ playing a MJ´s double rule.
Maybe Barry Shaw is his new identity, so he can go out in streets without desguises because he is just Barry, not MJ!!!! hahahahahaha
Genious!
Let´s start asking LK to bring Barry Shaw to tell his story! What do you think about it?
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Come on! the man in the video es Michael Jackson all time !!
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Yep!
For me it´s MJ all the time too.
So if this guy really exists he is just MJ desguised as a MJ´s double.
That´s why i´ts so important to put this guy in an TV interview.
If he really existis he is MJ in desguise!
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I always thought and have commented in the other threads - that the best disguise for Michael would be a double. And I think that TNZ version that he purposely acted differently in some shots to make people doubt there was a double used in TII is true.
Maybe Joe and a few others fanned the flames sending everyone out on a wild goose chase looking for the doubles in the movie. And now Michael can live as a double. Maybe soon the children will get in touch with him and then want to spend time with him as he reminds them of their daddy. Lets see where this goes.
If Barry Shaw was real, we would have heard of him earlier or he would be present at the burial or he would have been interviewed - especially if he appeared for the court hearings. Those hearings were most definitely Michael though - lol.
Interesting that Barry says he cannot dance or sing. Is that an indication that he does not want to perform again and only be behind the camera???
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I love the last line in his facebook info.
Love as always, only this time as Barry and not Michael.
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Is this it?
[youtube:2jiugqtk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEeUjYivVfc[/youtube:2jiugqtk]
It's real Michael everywhere. Don't take this video as a gospel. Who did it just wanted to be rated.
Come one! You can do the same thing yourself. Like say Michael has a body double Michaelangelo and put some of Mikes pictures together. You'll have at least several thousands of views. :)
But what bothers me is Tohme Tohme who grab Michael everywhere like he is his slave and his face is so aggressive. :evil: How could Mike allow this man around him. It's not that simple. There should be serious reason why this man took all the control over the man. :?
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That's not proof to me.
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"The man at O2 wasn't Michael, but one very identical. Almost like a twin, his name is Barry J. Shaw and he is Michael Jackson's personal body double who has been working with him for over 15 years (until the hoax)." :ugeek:
I am not completely sure as if Barry J. Shaw even exists but here could be some proof on how we can "tell the difference". Okay, here is a picture (http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/b6468398705fc46216c0a5399c412e79/l.png) of Barry Shaw (from his MySpace profile), and then the O2 guy (http://media.nowpublic.net/images//9f/5/9f5f2f3c5c15631795218710bec4e6a6.jpg).
Okay, I don't know if Michael has used bracelets before but as you can see. This man has the bracelets of the same color as the man at O2. Coincidence? I can't tell. You tell me.
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merged with the existing thread
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"The man at O2 wasn't Michael, but one very identical. Almost like a twin, his name is Barry J. Shaw and he is Michael Jackson's personal body double who has been working with him for over 15 years (until the hoax)." :ugeek:
I am not completely sure as if Barry J. Shaw even exists but here could be some proof on how we can "tell the difference". Okay, here is a picture (http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/b6468398705fc46216c0a5399c412e79/l.png) of Barry Shaw (from his MySpace profile), and then the O2 guy (http://media.nowpublic.net/images//9f/5/9f5f2f3c5c15631795218710bec4e6a6.jpg).
Okay, I don't know if Michael has used bracelets before but as you can see. This man has the bracelets of the same color as the man at O2. Coincidence? I can't tell. You tell me.
hmm the one from court makes me think of the brashir part with the burgandy shirt when he was using the makeup so much and stuff. i guess was supposed to be in florida. huh that would be interesting if michael substituted a double for some parts of the interview. as for the 2005 hearings it might not matter who was going in and out only who was actually sitting at the defendants table or giving testimony if needed.
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does anybody remember a thread there was a video of whoever and they were saying hi i'm barry shaw and on their face it was really white or there was bright light on it. but they were kind of gigglie like it was michael pretending to be someone else? :oops: have i lost touch with reality again :? it has been such a long road with so many twist and turns :?
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does anybody remember a thread there was a video of whoever and they were saying hi i'm barry shaw and on their face it was really white or there was bright light on it. but they were kind of gigglie like it was michael pretending to be someone else? :oops: have i lost touch with reality again :? it has been such a long road with so many twist and turns :?
I know one where he joked he was Adrian Grant, you don't mean this one I suppose?
[youtube:1k8x3g5m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXsVInbnv4Y&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1k8x3g5m]
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does anybody remember a thread there was a video of whoever and they were saying hi i'm barry shaw and on their face it was really white or there was bright light on it. but they were kind of gigglie like it was michael pretending to be someone else? :oops: have i lost touch with reality again :? it has been such a long road with so many twist and turns :?
I know one where he joked he was Adrian Grant, you don't mean this one I suppose?
[youtube:2yvu6rid]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXsVInbnv4Y&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:2yvu6rid]
yeah. sorry i got the names confused . who is adrian grant?
what is with the blinding white face?
that is what creeps me out . i have and i know that others have dreamed about those times with the really white face.
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does anybody remember a thread there was a video of whoever and they were saying hi i'm barry shaw and on their face it was really white or there was bright light on it. but they were kind of gigglie like it was michael pretending to be someone else? :oops: have i lost touch with reality again :? it has been such a long road with so many twist and turns :?
I know one where he joked he was Adrian Grant, you don't mean this one I suppose?
[youtube:1ietvbcd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXsVInbnv4Y&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1ietvbcd]
yeah. sorry i got the names confused . who is adrian grant?
what is with the blinding white face?
that is what creeps me out . i have and i know that others have dreamed about those times with the really white face.
Maybe it's just bad quality?
This one is also very bright but sure is funny! :lol:
[youtube:1ietvbcd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2iFoQwJnwM&feature=fvst[/youtube:1ietvbcd]
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Adrian Grant is the creator of Thriller Live. According to the article at this link, Grant and MJ first met in 1990:
http://mjforeverlove.wordpress.com/2011 ... end-alive/ (http://mjforeverlove.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/thriller-live-creator-adrian-grant-on-keeping-the-michael-jackson-legend-alive/)
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Whatever his name might be, there is a double that fools the whole bunch, for years and years already. There is just something off sometimes and the differences are small, but they are there. I have collected tons of pictures in the past 2 years and there are pictures where I can see immediately that it's him, but there are also pictures that are just...off in some way. It's the expression in the eyes, the mouth differs and the ears don't match. I can see it clearly since the BAD era, and I even get the feeling he was there before that already when I look at some pictures and videos. But this double is so good that either it was not O2 dude, or the double acted weird on purpose.
There are some people who say that Michael suddenly changed, he became more polite, nicer, more shy (talking about private life here and I don't know where I read that anymore), I am not saying MJ himself is an unpolite @sshole, but I do think there is a chance that a lot of fans are 'cheering for the wrong man' if you get what I mean. Is it MJ, or is it his double you love so dearly? Reminds me of what bec and I talked about on msn regarding 'Behind the Mask'... "Who do you love? Is it me? I don't know". So many fans think he had so much surgery on his face, while I think he hadn't. Will the fans believe it's him? It's something I have had in my head since the beginning. Something is up with it, I just can't put my finger on it.
Listen to Trump talking about the 2 Michael Jacksons
[youtube:8p2ztfiz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soXm_uLPSsg[/youtube:8p2ztfiz]
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Barry Shaw was a fake character and his FB account was deactivated long time ago. Those are all Michael in the pictures he showed like it was him. Just someone who is playing with people's feelings. Do not waste your time with these kind of liars.
I personally do NOT believe Michael has a twin or has a double that looks EAXCTLY like him. But I do believe that Michael wanted to create an illusion of a double that looks so close to him because that would be useful for his safety! Especially after he comes back, he doesn't want everyone to recognize him and probably he wants people to fall into contradiction if it is Michael or a double. So I do believe that he wanted to create the illusion of a double on purpose and he asked his family to tell about doubles in TII. It wasn't because there were really doubles in TII but he wanted to create the double illusion. The same voice double rumor came from the family again for the last album. There's a reason why we heard this double rumor and I believe that it came from Michael and for safety purposes.
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If that isn't Michael, I don't know who michael is anymore.. But I'm pretty convinced most of those pictures were Michael =)