Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: starlight777 on February 12, 2010, 09:49:51 PM

Title: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: starlight777 on February 12, 2010, 09:49:51 PM
TWO AMBULANCES AT MICHAEL HOUSE THE ONE THAT PULLED OUT WAS MJ DUMMY AND THE GUY WHO IS BEING SEEN COMING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE IS JERMAINE HE HAS THE SAME EXACT SHIRT ON WHEN HE MADE HIS STATMENT TO THE WORLD THAT HIS BROTHER HAD JUST PASS NOW FOLLOW ME ON THIS WHILE THE MEDIA WAS ALL OVER THIS. MJ GOT INTO THE SECOND AMBULANCE AND WENT TO A SECLUDED PLACE UNTILL IT WAS CLEAR PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT I BELIVE THATS HOW IT HAPPENED SO FROM THE VERY START IT WAS PLANNED. FOR MJ TO FAKE HIS DEATH THAT IS WHO IS BEHIND THE JACKET IS JERMAINE  SAME WHITE SHIRT SEE FOR YOURSELF. JERMAINE WAS RIDING IN THE FIRST A MBULANCE THATS WHY THIS GUY COULD NOT SHOW HIS FACE GETTING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE.                 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK I BELIVE THIS IS HOW IT HAPPEN.  STARLIGHT777 LOVES MJ
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Jennie on February 12, 2010, 09:52:45 PM
What do you mean the media was all over this? Do you have links that I can see all this for myself? :D
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Post by: beatit on February 12, 2010, 11:11:42 PM
Me also if you have a video I would love to see it.
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Post by: Butterflyaway on February 12, 2010, 11:16:14 PM
Sounds very interesting, but you gotta provide some evidence.
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Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on February 13, 2010, 12:35:09 AM
starlight777,we need a link :geek:
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Post by: Zen on February 13, 2010, 01:18:18 AM
WHY would Jermaine be in any ambulance?   :?:  :?:
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Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 13, 2010, 01:49:26 AM
Quote from: "Zen"
WHY would Jermaine be in any ambulance?   :?:  :?:


Does anyone have a picture of Jermaine arriving at the hospital (other than the ambulance)?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: giannip on February 13, 2010, 03:00:42 AM
If I understand correctly, starlight777 says that when "the body" arrives at the hospital, they guy who's hiding is face with the jacket is Jermaine.
I don't think so.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/26/article-1195607-057BCE25000005DC-402_634x388.jpg)

This is the clearest shot I found about that man before he hides himself. He cannot be Jermaine.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: ni-co-le on February 13, 2010, 04:45:14 PM
maybe starlight 777 means that the person who is stepping out the ambulance is jermaine because somebody is coming out of the ambu...we cant see who it is...he is covered by the jacket..,,or he is covering the man that is sitting on the stretcher..
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: giannip on February 13, 2010, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: "ni-co-le"
maybe starlight 777 means that the person who is stepping out the ambulance is jermaine because somebody is coming out of the ambu...we cant see who it is...he is covered by the jacket..,,or he is covering the man that is sitting on the stretcher..

hope starlight777 will clarify soon.
You ask: who's the guy coming out of the ambulance? I, instead, I am starting to question who are all the other people we see here and why are there? I just see a few doctors and some people wearing jacket and ties... where do they come from?

The guy wearing the white T-shirt (with red letters on the back) seems to be Murray to me...  :?
(http://moonbasealien.com/Pics/UCLA_neu_gif.gif)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: juliet on February 13, 2010, 08:39:42 PM
GIANNIP, thank you for your picvid. When I was looking at it:
1) I could see SOMEONE on the other side of the stretcher(facing us) who has his hair tied & with glasses, & THE GUY in front of him is definitely trying to cover him because THE GUY is facing that SOMEONE, walking in pace with SOMEONE, while the others are pretending to look at the stretcher
2) Looks like CM, the one in white T-shirt with red letterings.

Thanks again
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Disco on February 13, 2010, 09:15:42 PM
I've seen Jermaines interviews when he recalls getting the phonecall about Michael been taken to the hospital, he says he was in the car driving trying to make it to the hospital....??
That does look like Murray in the white T-shirt, but why is the guy still holding up his jacket to cover someone but still facing the ambulance and not the trolly???? Can see the ponytail very clear  ;)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Mj5StarChick on February 13, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
Yes that is Murray with the red lettering on his shirt ;) in another thread we are trying to figure out what it says on his shirt tho :D And I thought the same that when he got the news he was on his way to the hospital in his car :? :P
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: mjboogie on February 14, 2010, 12:21:20 AM
Look closer that ponytail person also has on red lipstick and shades too. :shock:
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Post by: mjj29081958 on February 14, 2010, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Look closer that ponytail person also has on red lipstick and shades too. :shock:

Wow, How can you see all that stuff?   :shock:  To be honest, I barely can see a blurry face...
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: MJsbasheret on February 14, 2010, 01:19:47 AM
Honestly it looks like MJ coming out of the ambulance...of course, I think they'd think of more than a jacket to cover him if it was him. And then one has to think about the fact that maybe no one would be focusing on who else was coming out of the ambulance since all eyes were on who was on the stretcher!  Is there no further video that shows the person coming out of the ambulance?

The other thing that makes me wonder about this video is why does the stretcher going into the hospital look like it's sitting in an upright position? In the ambulance they allegedly showed the paramedics working on MJ as he was laying down. IF the reports are correct that he was DOA then why in a sitting position?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: still beLIEve on February 14, 2010, 02:54:30 AM
I was trying to find this in youtube to see it clearly... and I found this video... it´s not clear at all... but looks like the same scene shot from other angle... I think is before because it looks like the bodyguard is taking off his jacket....
[youtube:3kasxx74]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQx5g5lwAE[/youtube:3kasxx74]

What do you see? I see like a face but for me it could be anyone in the background... I don´t know...
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: juliet on February 14, 2010, 03:17:18 AM
I can't figure out anything because it's blurry,STILLBELIEVE.Just the same, thank you.

My thoughts on this,from GIANNIP's picvid,I can't actually view the strectcher cuz everybody's tightly closed-in as concealing something. I believe,there's no one on the stretcher. They're trying to make it look that there's someone there that they're concealing. They're Shoulder-to-shoulder concealing(supposed to be ) someone on the stretcher except for the GUY with the hair tied+glasses who's not Shoulder-to-shoulder with anybody like the rest
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: loyalfan on February 14, 2010, 03:28:40 AM
I WAS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD NOT SEE THE PONYTAIL GUY.....BUT....KEPT WATCHING IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL........WITH IT PAUSED AND PAUSED AND PAUSED....THERE HE IS......LOOKS LIKE MICHEAL TO ME.......B UT I HAVE ....2 QUESTIONS......1. WHY  WOULD MICHEAL "HAVE" TO TAKE PART  IN THIS AT ALL?????..ITS A HUGE RISK......2. WAS THE PONYTAIL PIC.....ADDED ON AS AN AFTER THOUGHT...............??????XXXXXXX
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: still beLIEve on February 14, 2010, 03:52:10 AM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
I WAS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD NOT SEE THE PONYTAIL GUY.....BUT....KEPT WATCHING IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL........WITH IT PAUSED AND PAUSED AND PAUSED....THERE HE IS......LOOKS LIKE MICHEAL TO ME.......B UT I HAVE ....2 QUESTIONS......1. WHY  WOULD MICHEAL "HAVE" TO TAKE PART  IN THIS AT ALL?????..ITS A HUGE RISK......2. WAS THE PONYTAIL PIC.....ADDED ON AS AN AFTER THOUGHT...............??????XXXXXXX

You are right.... I think the same... I found another video where you can see clearly the pony tale guy... but it looks photoshoped to me....
[youtube:2q4j2usv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-HpaSGTaE[/youtube:2q4j2usv]

I don´t remember where this pictures came from the first time... do you?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: giannip on February 14, 2010, 04:15:33 AM
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
You are right.... I think the same... I found another video where you can see clearly the pony tale guy... but it looks photoshoped to me....

Probably it is, but we should then be able to find the original one without the pony tail guy...
As there's none to my knowledge, I just think that that guy is real but it's not MJ.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 14, 2010, 04:30:53 AM
Whose the guy jumping out of the ambulance? He is white, at least it seems so.. Could it be the real Murray? :lol:
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: topsecretgirl on February 14, 2010, 03:29:36 PM
I don't think it's MJ sitting up. I think the second guy was holding up the jacket so people couldn't see what's on the stretcher from that other side of the ambulance, if you understand wat I mean. They where just shielding left and right view angles.
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Post by: PrettyYoungTeletubby on February 14, 2010, 04:13:32 PM
On the vid u hardly see sth and on the pics it s so clear....of course it s photoshoped (IMO)

Anyway makes no sense: the head is on the other side in an ambulance...exactly like on the ambulance pic: the face was on the the other way.....so on this vid where we are supposed to see mj s face (which i still didn t see...) it should be where his feet are...(dont know if that makes sense...my english sucks at times)

Why would mj wear shades and sit up if he was faking his death.........and if he was dead...well goes without saying he wouldnt wear shades and sit up....
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: loyalfan on February 14, 2010, 04:18:06 PM
IS ANYONE ELSE HEAD SPINNING AROUND TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT..??????.......WE SEEM TO JUST KEEP GOING AROUND AND AROUND.........WHO DO WE BELIEVE...????? WHAT SHALL WE BELIEVE...??????OHHHH MY HEAD.......HURTS WITH IT ALL.......XXXXX
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: topsecretgirl on February 14, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
I think the guy on the right side of the stretcher (the one with the mustache)is the same guy(the policeman on the right) from the pic outside the courtroom with Murray! The black bodyguard(or something) is possibly also the same one as the one on the left side of the stretcher. I am going crazy here????  :roll:
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: tabloidburn on February 14, 2010, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
IS ANYONE ELSE HEAD SPINNING AROUND TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT..??????.......WE SEEM TO JUST KEEP GOING AROUND AND AROUND.........WHO DO WE BELIEVE...????? WHAT SHALL WE BELIEVE...??????OHHHH MY HEAD.......HURTS WITH IT ALL.......XXXXX


i just remarked the same thing in another post...it's like going yes/no all the time, so many pros and cons...and so many things pointing to what could be the biggest and most elaborate hoax of all time. or not...? :roll: it's like 'wag the dog', in the end you have to come to the conclusion that you can't believe anything you read or see on the regular news but only trust yourself. it's not 'who do we believe' but rather 'trust your guts'. but i feel you, it's breathtaking sometimes...
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Jennie on February 14, 2010, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
IS ANYONE ELSE HEAD SPINNING AROUND TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT..??????.......WE SEEM TO JUST KEEP GOING AROUND AND AROUND.........WHO DO WE BELIEVE...????? WHAT SHALL WE BELIEVE...??????OHHHH MY HEAD.......HURTS WITH IT ALL.......XXXXX


i just remarked the same thing in another post...it's like going yes/no all the time, so many pros and cons...and so many things pointing to what could be the biggest and most elaborate hoax of all time. or not...? :roll: it's like 'wag the dog', in the end you have to come to the conclusion that you can't believe anything you read or see on the regular news but only trust yourself. it's not 'who do we believe' but rather 'trust your guts'. but i feel you, it's breathtaking sometimes...

I know what you mean and when I feel like that, wich is at least once a day now I fall back on good old common sense and the logics of life, there are things that just dont make any sense if you think for a second how things would be done for any other actor or celebrity. Just take the 911 call when the operator hangs up. Just take for example all the odd things at the memorial, now do you think it would be logical to put a version of his song with an "S" at the end of pain or the fact that Jennifer Hudson is up there dressed in white from head to toe singing and on top of that not one word from the media about her attire. Come on now, we all know that ET and magazines love to discuss celebretie's attire's and give their 50 cents about it when they dont like it or think there is something wrong with it. Heck they just love to pick just to pick!! :?

So please guys, rely on your common sense about every day life and the truths are all in it. We are just afraid to believe what we see with our own eyes cause it would be too simple. ;)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: tabloidburn on February 15, 2010, 04:33:19 AM
Quote from: "Jennie"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
IS ANYONE ELSE HEAD SPINNING AROUND TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT..??????.......WE SEEM TO JUST KEEP GOING AROUND AND AROUND.........WHO DO WE BELIEVE...????? WHAT SHALL WE BELIEVE...??????OHHHH MY HEAD.......HURTS WITH IT ALL.......XXXXX


i just remarked the same thing in another post...it's like going yes/no all the time, so many pros and cons...and so many things pointing to what could be the biggest and most elaborate hoax of all time. or not...? :roll: it's like 'wag the dog', in the end you have to come to the conclusion that you can't believe anything you read or see on the regular news but only trust yourself. it's not 'who do we believe' but rather 'trust your guts'. but i feel you, it's breathtaking sometimes...

I know what you mean and when I feel like that, wich is at least once a day now I fall back on good old common sense and the logics of life, there are things that just dont make any sense if you think for a second how things would be done for any other actor or celebrity. Just take the 911 call when the operator hangs up. Just take for example all the odd things at the memorial, now do you think it would be logical to put a version of his song with an "S" at the end of pain or the fact that Jennifer Hudson is up there dressed in white from head to toe singing and on top of that not one word from the media about her attire. Come on now, we all know that ET and magazines love to discuss celebretie's attire's and give their 50 cents about it when they dont like it or think there is something wrong with it. Heck they just love to pick just to pick!! :?

So please guys, rely on your common sense about every day life and the truths are all in it. We are just afraid to believe what we see with our own eyes cause it would be too simple. ;)


but there is exactly the confusion. all of a sudden you have to bring people, their clothes or their appearance into some context with michael and that's confusing. apart from jennifer's white dress, i'm still asking myself how john mayer got to play his tribute in the memorial, what did he ever have to do with michael jackson apart from being a musician? personally, i never heard anything even mentioned. i mean, that guestlist alone was kinda weird to me. and his closest friends didn't even show up? i would have dropped everything to be there if i had been a personal friend. see, that's just that one event and you can go on for hours about how people acted, what they said and how and whatnot...that makes it difficult to see 'the simple things' sometimes, or even the obvious. like you can't see the forest for the trees, especially when this forum here is like a overload of info. almost dangerous to be here...
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Jennie on February 15, 2010, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "Jennie"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
IS ANYONE ELSE HEAD SPINNING AROUND TRYING TO SORT THIS OUT..??????.......WE SEEM TO JUST KEEP GOING AROUND AND AROUND.........WHO DO WE BELIEVE...????? WHAT SHALL WE BELIEVE...??????OHHHH MY HEAD.......HURTS WITH IT ALL.......XXXXX


i just remarked the same thing in another post...it's like going yes/no all the time, so many pros and cons...and so many things pointing to what could be the biggest and most elaborate hoax of all time. or not...? :roll: it's like 'wag the dog', in the end you have to come to the conclusion that you can't believe anything you read or see on the regular news but only trust yourself. it's not 'who do we believe' but rather 'trust your guts'. but i feel you, it's breathtaking sometimes...

I know what you mean and when I feel like that, wich is at least once a day now I fall back on good old common sense and the logics of life, there are things that just dont make any sense if you think for a second how things would be done for any other actor or celebrity. Just take the 911 call when the operator hangs up. Just take for example all the odd things at the memorial, now do you think it would be logical to put a version of his song with an "S" at the end of pain or the fact that Jennifer Hudson is up there dressed in white from head to toe singing and on top of that not one word from the media about her attire. Come on now, we all know that ET and magazines love to discuss celebretie's attire's and give their 50 cents about it when they dont like it or think there is something wrong with it. Heck they just love to pick just to pick!! :?

So please guys, rely on your common sense about every day life and the truths are all in it. We are just afraid to believe what we see with our own eyes cause it would be too simple. ;)


but there is exactly the confusion. all of a sudden you have to bring people, their clothes or their appearance into some context with michael and that's confusing. apart from jennifer's white dress, i'm still asking myself how john mayer got to play his tribute in the memorial, what did he ever have to do with michael jackson apart from being a musician? personally, i never heard anything even mentioned. i mean, that guestlist alone was kinda weird to me. and his closest friends didn't even show up? i would have dropped everything to be there if i had been a personal friend. see, that's just that one event and you can go on for hours about how people acted, what they said and how and whatnot...that makes it difficult to see 'the simple things' sometimes, or even the obvious. like you can't see the forest for the trees, especially when this forum here is like a overload of info. almost dangerous to be here...

Sorry... I didn't mean to confuse anyone, I simply wanted to bring up an example... something that anyone could relate to by simply looking... :?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Integrity on February 16, 2010, 01:15:10 AM
May I ask why are they holding there jackets up? What were they trying to hide?  
And all of those bodyguards!!! Where were they when Michael needed them to take him to the hospital
which was only 5 minutes from the house but 20 of them show up at the hospital with there jackets off trying to hide what we do not no. It would be great to talk to the bodyguards that were there and it is amazing that none of them have not been on an interview or a talk show.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: MJLOVER32 on February 17, 2010, 08:39:09 AM
I mean why would anyone have any time to cover someone up with a jacket comin out the back of an ambulance anyway??
I mean for goodness sake MJ in the back dying, Why be concerned bout someones privacy, whoever it is...
MJ still lives!! 4 eva  ;)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on February 17, 2010, 12:57:18 PM
i dont see anyone sitting up on stretcher the guy in front of murry and the guy on the other side of strecher body movements are in sinc except for there heads. but i do see someone being concealed coming out of the ambulance.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Datroot on February 17, 2010, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: "Integrity"
May I ask why are they holding there jackets up? What were they trying to hide?  
And all of those bodyguards!!! Where were they when Michael needed them to take him to the hospital
which was only 5 minutes from the house but 20 of them show up at the hospital with there jackets off trying to hide what we do not no. It would be great to talk to the bodyguards that were there and it is amazing that none of them have not been on an interview or a talk show.

I keep posting this - I think its because there is a double, as well as MJ in the ambulance - they are either shielding the double or MJ, depending who is on the trolley - the probably did a switch in the hospital.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: libra8 on February 17, 2010, 02:47:09 PM
Whoever is stepping out of the ambulance has their arm up & looks to be holding hat (possibly fedora) on their head, how many people wear fedoras in MJ's entourage??

And here is MJ supposidly being wheeled on gurney DOA or near dead, coming out of ambulance & WHO would care if their hat was even on their head??  

Do we know who road in the ambulance that day??
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: still beLIEve on February 17, 2010, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "Integrity"
May I ask why are they holding there jackets up? What were they trying to hide?  
And all of those bodyguards!!! Where were they when Michael needed them to take him to the hospital
which was only 5 minutes from the house but 20 of them show up at the hospital with there jackets off trying to hide what we do not no. It would be great to talk to the bodyguards that were there and it is amazing that none of them have not been on an interview or a talk show.

I keep posting this - I think its because there is a double, as well as MJ in the ambulance - they are either shielding the double or MJ, depending who is on the trolley - the probably did a switch in the hospital.

I think that too....  ;)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: tabloidburn on February 17, 2010, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Whoever is stepping out of the ambulance has their arm up & looks to be holding hat (possibly fedora) on their head, how many people wear fedoras in MJ's entourage??

And here is MJ supposidly being wheeled on gurney DOA or near dead, coming out of ambulance & WHO would care if their hat was even on their head??  

Do we know who road in the ambulance that day??


exactly. all we ever saw of that was the fake picture of mj in the ambulance. switch in the hospital sounds reasonable to me, too.

(btw, love your signature gif. that was just too funny, how they all played shopping with michael. especially the glove bit: 'oh, i gotta put my glove on' - 'but michael, then people gonna know it's you!'  :lol: )
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Post by: Infinitylady on February 17, 2010, 07:11:58 PM
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MJLOVER32 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:39 pm

I mean why would anyone have any time to cover someone up with a jacket comin out the back of an ambulance anyway??
I mean for goodness sake MJ in the back dying, Why be concerned bout someones privacy, whoever it is...MJ still lives!! 4 eva

Exactly!!! That was the same thing I was thinking!!  :|
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: libra8 on February 17, 2010, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "libra8"
Whoever is stepping out of the ambulance has their arm up & looks to be holding hat (possibly fedora) on their head, how many people wear fedoras in MJ's entourage??

And here is MJ supposidly being wheeled on gurney DOA or near dead, coming out of ambulance & WHO would care if their hat was even on their head??  

Do we know who road in the ambulance that day??


exactly. all we ever saw of that was the fake picture of mj in the ambulance. switch in the hospital sounds reasonable to me, too.

(btw, love your signature gif. that was just too funny, how they all played shopping with michael. especially the glove bit: 'oh, i gotta put my glove on' - 'but michael, then people gonna know it's you!'  :lol: )
:mrgreen:  I love the fact its a yellow plastic glove, & I love how proud he shows off his favorite gum, I'm thinking maybe its 'Big Red' gum...you can tell he had good time making those shopping videos..he seems so happy, bless his sweet heart!!   :D  :lol:
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: MJLive2010 on February 17, 2010, 08:09:38 PM
Here is another footage from that video to me this is REAL michael is getting up from the strecher believe it or not its true .

PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eJtRCVaaM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eJtRCVaaM)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: bluegurl201 on February 17, 2010, 08:10:46 PM
Quote from: "starlight777"
TWO AMBULANCES AT MICHAEL HOUSE THE ONE THAT PULLED OUT WAS MJ DUMMY AND THE GUY WHO IS BEING SEEN COMING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE IS JERMAINE HE HAS THE SAME EXACT SHIRT ON WHEN HE MADE HIS STATMENT TO THE WORLD THAT HIS BROTHER HAD JUST PASS NOW FOLLOW ME ON THIS WHILE THE MEDIA WAS ALL OVER THIS. MJ GOT INTO THE SECOND AMBULANCE AND WENT TO A SECLUDED PLACE UNTILL IT WAS CLEAR PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT I BELIVE THATS HOW IT HAPPENED SO FROM THE VERY START IT WAS PLANNED. FOR MJ TO FAKE HIS DEATH THAT IS WHO IS BEHIND THE JACKET IS JERMAINE  SAME WHITE SHIRT SEE FOR YOURSELF. JERMAINE WAS RIDING IN THE FIRST A MBULANCE THATS WHY THIS GUY COULD NOT SHOW HIS FACE GETTING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE.                 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK I BELIVE THIS IS HOW IT HAPPEN.  STARLIGHT777 LOVES MJ
You got a link with that statement, hehe :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Infinitylady on February 18, 2010, 09:09:21 AM
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MJLive2010 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:09 am

Here is another footage from that video to me this is REAL michael is getting up from the strecher believe it or not its true .

PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eJtRCVaaM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eJtRCVaaM)

Yeah, I saw it. You can kind of see someone moving. But in that format it is somewhat hard to tell.  It's interesting why the guy with the jacket is standing there still trying to cover. He looks like he is taking off the jacket but just halfway. Don't make sense to me REALLY why you would do that anyway especially if this is an emergency situation.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Jennie on February 19, 2010, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Quote
MJLive2010 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:09 am

Here is another footage from that video to me this is REAL michael is getting up from the strecher believe it or not its true .

PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eJtRCVaaM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eJtRCVaaM)

Yeah, I saw it. You can kind of see someone moving. But in that format it is somewhat hard to tell.  It's interesting why the guy with the jacket is standing there still trying to cover. He looks like he is taking off the jacket but just halfway. Don't make sense to me REALLY why you would do that anyway especially if this is an emergency situation.

Yes I admit it does look like someone rises and then goes right back down... :?  :roll:

Wanting to be objective, I wonder if it is possible to trick a vid like that... Does anyone here know? :?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: tabloidburn on February 20, 2010, 12:14:45 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "libra8"
Whoever is stepping out of the ambulance has their arm up & looks to be holding hat (possibly fedora) on their head, how many people wear fedoras in MJ's entourage??

And here is MJ supposidly being wheeled on gurney DOA or near dead, coming out of ambulance & WHO would care if their hat was even on their head??  

Do we know who road in the ambulance that day??


exactly. all we ever saw of that was the fake picture of mj in the ambulance. switch in the hospital sounds reasonable to me, too.

(btw, love your signature gif. that was just too funny, how they all played shopping with michael. especially the glove bit: 'oh, i gotta put my glove on' - 'but michael, then people gonna know it's you!'  :lol: )
:mrgreen:  I love the fact its a yellow plastic glove, & I love how proud he shows off his favorite gum, I'm thinking maybe its 'Big Red' gum...you can tell he had good time making those shopping videos..he seems so happy, bless his sweet heart!!   :D  :lol:

yeah, he did like a mini-commercial there: 'not just red. big red!' that was funny. i think he really had a ball that nite. good to see he had himself some plain ol' fun, still.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: tabloidburn on February 20, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: "bluegurl201"
Quote from: "starlight777"
TWO AMBULANCES AT MICHAEL HOUSE THE ONE THAT PULLED OUT WAS MJ DUMMY AND THE GUY WHO IS BEING SEEN COMING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE IS JERMAINE HE HAS THE SAME EXACT SHIRT ON WHEN HE MADE HIS STATMENT TO THE WORLD THAT HIS BROTHER HAD JUST PASS NOW FOLLOW ME ON THIS WHILE THE MEDIA WAS ALL OVER THIS. MJ GOT INTO THE SECOND AMBULANCE AND WENT TO A SECLUDED PLACE UNTILL IT WAS CLEAR PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT I BELIVE THATS HOW IT HAPPENED SO FROM THE VERY START IT WAS PLANNED. FOR MJ TO FAKE HIS DEATH THAT IS WHO IS BEHIND THE JACKET IS JERMAINE  SAME WHITE SHIRT SEE FOR YOURSELF. JERMAINE WAS RIDING IN THE FIRST A MBULANCE THATS WHY THIS GUY COULD NOT SHOW HIS FACE GETTING OUT OF THE AMBULANCE.                 PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK I BELIVE THIS IS HOW IT HAPPEN.  STARLIGHT777 LOVES MJ
You got a link with that statement, hehe :lol:  :lol:

didn't jermaine say he was 'in his car' or something when he heard the news? so he could have been there already? and probably set up the statement for later? interesting and all the while possible...again... :mrgreen:
i noticed the same shirt as well. it is the same that michael was wearing in a rehearsal (white over the red), someone made a thorough comparison already. i was also wondering why he would wear it (like it's not bad enough your brother is dead, you gotta put on his shirt, too?) and if it is michael's shirt or if they both just have the same. if it's michael's shirt, how did jermaine get it?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: Integrity on July 20, 2010, 09:37:55 AM
WHY ARE THE BODY GUARDS COVERING HIM WITH THERE JACKETS? WHEN HE GOT BURNED DOING THAT PEPSI COMMERICAL THEY HAD PICTURES OF HIM. GREAT PICTURES AT THAT. THOSE BURNS COULD HAVE KILLED HIM BUT THEY HAD PICTURES AND NO ONE WAS HOLDING UP JACKETS IN THE AIR. THAT MOMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT SAVING HIS LIFE NOT HIDING HIS FACE! HOW COULD THEY THINK TO DO THAT AT THAT TIME. ALL I CAN SAY IS IF THE HOSPITAL IS 5 MINUTES FROM THE HOSPITAL AND I WAS VERY ILL I HOPE MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS WILL TAKE ME TO THE HOSPITAL AND IF AN AMBULANCE DOES COME I HOPE THEY DO NOT SPEND AN HOUR TRYING TO REVIVE ME. JUST TAKE ME TO THE HOSPITAL!!
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: doubleoh on July 23, 2010, 04:00:02 PM
That's the same guy in blue that we saw inside the gates when the ambulance was at MJ's house.  Looks like MJ to me, too.
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 23, 2010, 04:14:26 PM
This is what i find wierd about this ambulance picture:

The trolley is being wheeled out and Dr Murray is walking alongside it and everyone is covering up the trolley with their jackets...

then a guy gets out the back of the ambulance and one guy covers him with a jacket.  WHY?  Who is the guy getting out of the ambulance and why would he need covering????

(http://moonbasealien.com/Pics/UCLA_neu_gif.gif)
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: mumof3 on July 23, 2010, 05:07:59 PM
http://moonbasealien.com/Pics/UCLA_neu_gif.gif (http://moonbasealien.com/Pics/UCLA_neu_gif.gif)

I feel the person getting out of the ambulance is Michael why would he be protected and covered up it just does not make sense you woudnt want to protect the medics only a person highly well known or a person that is very ill and the person coming out of the ambulance does not look ill to me
by the way i have not noticed this person before may be he was right in front of us all the time
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: mumof3 on July 23, 2010, 05:12:47 PM
plus the person looks quite tall and he is shielding his face and doesnt he look like he is wearing similar clothes to the person that jumped out of the coroners van in the tunnel and sliped in through that door then the video was hastly declared fake. what do you think or am  I mad
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: mumof3 on July 23, 2010, 05:15:16 PM
http://moonbasealien.com/Pics/UCLA_neu_gif.gif (http://moonbasealien.com/Pics/UCLA_neu_gif.gif)

in this clip you can see the person a sec longer
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on July 24, 2010, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Look closer that ponytail person also has on red lipstick and shades too. :shock:

Ehh I'm sorry, but where do you saw the ponytail person?  :?
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: mumof3 on July 24, 2010, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: "iMISSYOUMJ"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Look closer that ponytail person also has on red lipstick and shades too. :shock:

Ehh I'm sorry, but where do you saw the ponytail person?  :?
l
the pony tailed person lift his head up from the trolly
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: lisap27 on July 24, 2010, 01:36:18 PM
just been watching that clip and the more i think about it where on earth could this person have been hiding who's coming out of the back when the photo was taken of the inside with him on the trolley showing the tiny inside or limited space with already 2 paramedics in there??

have you ever thought the actual trolley could be empty what there wheeling in!! and this is the real MJ jumping out of the back fit as a fiddle.. hense the hiding with all the jackets of the trolley!!

food for thought!! :geek:

cos i certainly don't see anyobody sitting up on it.. no matter how many times i watch it!!
Title: Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
Post by: LadyMedic on July 24, 2010, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: "Integrity"
WHY ARE THE BODY GUARDS COVERING HIM WITH THERE JACKETS? WHEN HE GOT BURNED DOING THAT PEPSI COMMERICAL THEY HAD PICTURES OF HIM. GREAT PICTURES AT THAT. THOSE BURNS COULD HAVE KILLED HIM BUT THEY HAD PICTURES AND NO ONE WAS HOLDING UP JACKETS IN THE AIR. THAT MOMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT SAVING HIS LIFE NOT HIDING HIS FACE! HOW COULD THEY THINK TO DO THAT AT THAT TIME. ALL I CAN SAY IS IF THE HOSPITAL IS 5 MINUTES FROM THE HOSPITAL AND I WAS VERY ILL I HOPE MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS WILL TAKE ME TO THE HOSPITAL AND IF AN AMBULANCE DOES COME I HOPE THEY DO NOT SPEND AN HOUR TRYING TO REVIVE ME. JUST TAKE ME TO THE HOSPITAL!!
THe body guards are there to advocate for Michael. The paramedics are taking care of him, and the body guards are not going to be providing medical care. I would hope if I were in Michael's situation, that the body guards that I trusted would make sure they did their job.
And people don't realize the job of paramedics. In a cardiac arrest situation, you should always spend time getting everything set up. Early CPR and defibrillation gives the patient the best possible outcome, and that has been proven over and over again. It would be irresponsible and it poor patient care to just grab them and run to the hospital. In this case, the medics worked the patient for the alotted time before they would presume death. However, Murray insisted the continue, and that is why they spent so long on scene.
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