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Title: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mykidsmum on February 13, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Hi everyone, I found something strange on MJ's autopsy report and It made me remember something.  In the report it says that MJ had "avulsion of the olfactory bulbs bilaterally"  This means that both olfactory bulbs (the part responsible for smell) are cut off, torn off, etc.  
-This made me remember someone saying that MJ had a problem with the taste of food, does anyone remember that and who said it?
-Olfactory bulb injury results in not being able to smell or smell and taste your food.
-when could this have happened?  Can you immagine?
-in everything I found, this can be caused by trauma to the head, surgery that breaks the bone in the area of the olfactory nerves (nose surgery maybe?) virus, or bacteria infection.
It doesn't say in the report if this is recent or old, so I hope that he didn't suffer with this long, this could explain why he was so thin recently if he couldn't taste his food.
according to the report, MJ had a small extra rib on his c-7 vertebrae too....interesting!
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 13, 2010, 09:20:01 PM
Possibly a result from a recent surgery.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Another_Part_of_Me on February 13, 2010, 09:23:17 PM
But how the hell he enjoyed his favorite colons then?
Karen F. said that she bought him something that he liked for his London tour....  :?
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: letstalkagain on February 13, 2010, 09:36:38 PM
i don't believe that, there is just too much happening with him, he would be the world's sickest person just about.  He loved cologne remenber he said he likes to smell good, he told that to one of his dancers during TII, after she complimented his cologne taste.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mykidsmum on February 13, 2010, 11:11:03 PM
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
i don't believe that, there is just too much happening with him, he would be the world's sickest person just about.  He loved cologne remenber he said he likes to smell good, he told that to one of his dancers during TII, after she complimented his cologne taste.
hey I'm quoting the autopsy report.  That is what it said.  You try smelling anything without your olfactory bulbs...it aint happening.  Maybe it happend very recently, maybe they are hiding some trauma.  There was some minor brain swelling and congestion in the autopsy as well.  Hmmmm
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mjboogie on February 13, 2010, 11:17:35 PM
Brain Swelling? Could it have been caused by anything besides trauma to the head? :cry:
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: zyla on February 13, 2010, 11:29:22 PM
Nah, if his sense of smell was cut or torn off, it must have been from the nose surgery.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: King_Michael on February 13, 2010, 11:42:38 PM
If you believe in the autopsy and I have no problem if you do it's your opinion but if people believe it then Michael was sick and a ticking time bomb I just have trouble believing he was in this state
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: tiida11 on February 14, 2010, 12:54:31 AM
OMG!!!! I'm scared of all these details of the autopsy report ! If real, Michael was dreadfully ill and he had all kind of unimaginable medical problems!!!!
He loved cologne and , if i remeber well, i read somewehre that he was very sensitive at aspect, smell and taste of the food he,  and especially his children, had to eat.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: sunburst on February 14, 2010, 03:07:51 AM
hmmm...take everything with a grain of salt...

according to KF, MJ loves Bal a Versailles.  at the rehearsals, they said they'd know if MJ has arrived because the smell of his perfume would waft through the room.  delicious...i just bought one

and he loves KFC chicken breasts, original recipe  :P
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: msteetee34 on February 14, 2010, 03:14:04 AM
Quote from: "sunburst"
hmmm...take everything with a grain of salt...

according to KF, MJ loves Bal a Versailles.  at the rehearsals, they said they'd know if MJ has arrived because the smell of his perfume would waft through the room.  delicious...i just bought one

and he loves KFC chicken breasts, original recipe  :P

Exactly he wouldn't be all into the way he smells if he couldn't actually smell the fragrance of his colonge.  He definitely wouldn't be all into eating KFC chicken if he couldn't smell because he wouldn't be able to taste it.  Smell and taste go hand in hand when it come to food.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: loyalfan on February 14, 2010, 03:32:23 AM
YES ...BUT.....I THOUGHT A LOT OF US BELIEVE......WELL LETS PUT IT THIS WAY.....I BELIEVE...IF NO ONE ELSE DOES......SO SHOOT ME ! LOL.....THAT ITS NOT NOT NOT MICHEALS BODY..!!!!!!SO A DOUBLE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY HAD SURGERY TO LOOK LIKE HIM...!!!!!...JUST MY OPINION...XXXX
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Eva R on February 14, 2010, 03:43:15 AM
what a BS..
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: lisap27 on February 14, 2010, 03:56:15 AM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
If you believe in the autopsy and I have no problem if you do it's your opinion but if people believe it then Michael was sick and a ticking time bomb I just have trouble believing he was in this state

i agree with this, this is what is hard to grasp with everything, if he was sick could he have rehearsed like he did, whether it be half arsed or not, still impressed me for a sick guy if this is the case.. especially the lung thing what is that about!!

plus his sence of smell, pffff just another one i don't understand when he had favourite foods and cologne's if he couldn't smell or taste then how would he know the difference between chicken and cabbage for example, apart from the look obviously

but i want to mention i know some of you guys didn't like the jackson thing but it was interesting to me especially when Tito couldn't watch TII, because he knew Michael and couldn't fathom out why he is now dead!! this speaks volumes to me that he was full of life and energy!!
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 14, 2010, 04:35:36 AM
I am sure the autopsy are filled with alot of rumours, and some facts.. So we fans can realize it's something going on. Michael loved chicken, or something.. So why would he love eating chickens if they didn't taste anything for him?
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Raven on February 14, 2010, 04:40:35 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
I am sure the autopsy are filled with alot of rumours, and some facts.. So we fans can realize it's something going on. Michael loved chicken, or something.. So why would he love eating chickens if they didn't taste anything for him?
Smell is something different than taste ;)
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Eva R on February 14, 2010, 04:42:18 AM
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
I am sure the autopsy are filled with alot of rumours, and some facts.. So we fans can realize it's something going on. Michael loved chicken, or something.. So why would he love eating chickens if they didn't taste anything for him?
Smell is something different than taste ;)
yeah but if you can't smell, you don't taste  a lot right? or not :P
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: XspeechlessX on February 14, 2010, 04:49:27 AM
if you cant smell then the taste of things will be a lot weaker. about 80% weaker... not completely gone though.
L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Tee on February 14, 2010, 06:55:15 AM
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
if you cant smell then the taste of things will be a lot weaker. about 80% weaker... not completely gone though.
L.O.V.E

I'd agree on that. my uncle lost his sense of smell around 1986 I think, after a single nose surgery (for polyps removal, they were causing huge breathing problems). from that day on he couldn't smell a thing, yet he eats like a blizzard all these years, obviously the sense of taste didn't get lost. and I doubt he forgot the smells he liked.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 14, 2010, 07:08:43 AM
You need smelling-sense if you want to taste something. If your nose are filled with god knows what, you hardly taste anything.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: llebreknit on February 14, 2010, 12:24:51 PM
Please, which page on autopsy report do you see this? I dont find it.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 14, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
Interesting.. the autopsy did say that he had "nasal structures"...  thus confirming the rumour he had a false nose.  All the cartilage was gone from the multiple surgeries.  And that would mean his smell was gone too.

Poor baby...  bastard plastic surgeons...  who the hell did that to a man>??  Makes me so angry.

This is interesting...   can explain why MJ said he wasnt much of an eater...  without taste you would just be eating to live and not enjoyment.

About the cologne thing and the TII dancers saying they could smell MJ before he entered the room..  could it be that because MJ couldnt smell that he covered himself with perfume and didnt realise just how strong the smell was?
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: llebreknit on February 14, 2010, 12:41:40 PM
I have read again the autopsy and still dont see this thing about "avulsion of the olfactory bulbs bilaterally". Which page is it please?
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: SmellyJelly on February 14, 2010, 12:45:57 PM
I don't believe this BS.
Michael use two wonderful perfumes: Bal A Verasailles and Black Orchid.They're absolutely wonderful.
One of his dancers said that he knew if Michael is close of him, because he felt his perfume.
The next day, MJ changed his perfume.
I don't think that he use any perfume.His tastes are fine I am sure that he have a good smell.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mumof3 on February 14, 2010, 12:48:52 PM
didnt he spray ko at some point i read  during rehearsals trying to think of things Michael smelt girls hair he liked doing that.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 14, 2010, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: "SmellyJelly"
I don't believe this BS.
Michael use two wonderful perfumes: Bal A Verasailles and Black Orchid.They're absolutely wonderful.
One of his dancers said that he knew if Michael is close of him, because he felt his perfume.
The next day, MJ changed his perfume.
I don't think that he use any perfume.His tastes are fine I am sure that he have a good smell.

Ive just brought Bal A Versailles from the internet.. so i can judge for myself.  Ive heard that was his favourite above Black Orchid...  i had to buy the EDT spray rather than the perfume as its expensive.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mumof3 on February 14, 2010, 01:08:47 PM
I bough a small black orchid  it was lovely very sad i know i wore it to see tii  people have said to me how lovely it is  it is very spicy . the other one Bal a Verrasailles i have been told is not so good but i will be getting some it is sort of comforting isnt it
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 14, 2010, 01:12:16 PM
Yes, DancingtheDream, I was thinking exactly the same.

Poor MJ ... his first nose job is almost 30 years ago - can you imagine what life would be like without smelling or tasting hardly anything?  I can - at the moment I have to deal with a severe cold / flu ... and I can`t wait to get my senses back !

It makes me almost cry to think of all the health issues he had to deal with:

- severe acne in adolescence (and teasing of his family)
- nose jobs (to avoid further teasing - loosing important senses)
- dicoid lupus (butterfly rashes and deep scars afterwards - which he obviously let be removed via plastic surgeries several times, other than the singer Seal who - quite visibly - seems to live with it)
- permanent risk that dicoid lupus develops into - life-threatening - systemic lupus
- vitiligo (white and dark brown blotches all over his face and body - an explanation why he was so shy and reclusive?)
- his weak lung condition (his first breakdown because of pneumonia - in late 70s or early 80s - he describes in "Moonwalker")
- his severe scalp burns because of the Pepsi-accident (and lots of painful surgeries to follow)
- hair loss because of lupus (including lashes and brows)  AND the scalp burnings
- anorexia (well documented)
- insomnia (fear of nightmares because of child-trauma when his father threatened the boys at night with horrible masks, telling them they could be kidnapped out of their bedrooms)

And - on top - all the distress because of constantly working, creating, touring - being alomost alone responsible for the whole huge family`s income ever since he was 5.... ?

And the only fun which was left for this charismatic boy-man were some playful days with his buddies at Neverland - which society accused him for in the most terrible and disgusting way?

What a life ...    :shock:

Any wonder he became dependent on pain medication?  

Thinking of all this makes me cry - really ....  :(  :(  :(
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 14, 2010, 01:19:29 PM
I've often wondered why he suffered so much adversity in  his life.  It is more than sad.  I can't even come up with a word that would justly describe the unfairness for all he suffered.  He was a saint to be able to deal with all of this and still unconditionally love EVERY living thing.  He was plagued.  But for all that is holy and just, I cannot understand WHY :cry:
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mumof3 on February 14, 2010, 01:20:49 PM
all this a gentle soul who cried when he saw the flies goinginto the starving childrens eyes.  It all makes me sick and i hope so much this is a massive kick up the arse to all those people that believed in the rubbish about him. and if he wants to come back he comes back to respect
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: King_Michael on February 14, 2010, 01:22:16 PM
It's not Michael in this autopsy there is no way he could rehearse with all these things going on, he wouldn't even get out of bed with all these things going on just my opinon though, keep believing guys nobody said it would be easy
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Eva R on February 14, 2010, 01:23:03 PM
whos says he couldn't smell? The autopsy report? But that report is full of BS. but if that were true, he could not breath through his nose right? or am I wrong? I think if you can 't smell, you can't breath trhough your nose.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 14, 2010, 01:28:55 PM
Well, King Michael, I did not refer to the autopsy report at all ....  everyhing is well documented over the years and everybody should have known (although he used to play it down a bit because of image and - most important - insurance reasons ...).

I left out severe bone frctures (back, leg, foot/ancle), panic attacks, dehydrations, spider-bytes ...

He deserves more than RESPECT for all his sufferings ....
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 14, 2010, 01:44:32 PM
@aintnosunshine..  he suffered thats for sure.  xxx  Maybe God offset his beautiful gifts and talents with suffering.  I dont know.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: andy1andy2 on February 14, 2010, 04:20:23 PM
Off subject,can someone please tell me where can I find Bal a Verasailles?I found Black Orchid and its wonderful I think about Michael when I put it on. :)
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 14, 2010, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: "andy1andy2"
Off subject,can someone please tell me where can I find Bal a Verasailles?I found Black Orchid and its wonderful I think about Michael when I put it on. :)

I brought mine from ebay.co.uk

Depends where you are in the World.  Everywhere else i could find on the net i had to buy from USA which made it more expensive.

I will have to try Black Orchid some time.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mjj29081958 on February 14, 2010, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: "Eva R"
whos says he couldn't smell? The autopsy report? But that report is full of BS. but if that were true, he could not breath through his nose right? or am I wrong? I think if you can 't smell, you can't breath trhough your nose.

Well, "smell" and "breath" are two different things. You can perfectly breath and don't smell things when you have a damage in nerves that takes odors from the nose to the brain, or a damage in the brain's area responsible for recognizing odors: you are going to keep breathing, but you'll can't smell anymore.

You can breath through your nose every time when its not obstructed, it doesn't matter whether you can smell or not. Hope it helps! :D
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on February 14, 2010, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
i don't believe that, there is just too much happening with him, he would be the world's sickest person just about.  He loved cologne remenber he said he likes to smell good, he told that to one of his dancers during TII, after she complimented his cologne taste
I don't believe that , Michael hade his own perfumes , he loved to smell good, I think that story about him not smelling things is a lie. :roll: .
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: mumof3 on February 14, 2010, 04:49:10 PM
You can lose the sense of smell and still be able to breath, My grandfather could not smell because of something that happened in the war and we had a hell of a job getting him to eat because it was just like mush to him no fun at all for him.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 14, 2010, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: "LOVEYOUMORE"
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
i don't believe that, there is just too much happening with him, he would be the world's sickest person just about.  He loved cologne remenber he said he likes to smell good, he told that to one of his dancers during TII, after she complimented his cologne taste
I don't believe that , Michael hade his own perfumes , he loved to smell good, I think that story about him not smelling things is a lie. :roll: .


Sorry, but it is more than likely that you lose your sense of smell when you`ve got - even minor - nose operations. MJ has got more than one  ....  therefore this has nothing to do with the autopsy report.  

And it is no secret that he did not care for food at all, like mumof3wrote, that might be the reason - more than plausible.

And yes, he had difficult  health issues, indeed. One might not like but can`t deny it.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: karen-ishealive on February 14, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
But how the hell he enjoyed his favorite colons then?
Karen F. said that she bought him something that he liked for his London tour....  :?



Sorry off topic but your sig is so funny lol - brilliant!!!
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: Eva R on February 15, 2010, 12:16:28 AM
Quote from: "mjj29081958"
Quote from: "Eva R"
whos says he couldn't smell? The autopsy report? But that report is full of BS. but if that were true, he could not breath through his nose right? or am I wrong? I think if you can 't smell, you can't breath trhough your nose.

Well, "smell" and "breath" are two different things. You can perfectly breath and don't smell things when you have a damage in nerves that takes odors from the nose to the brain, or a damage in the brain's area responsible for recognizing odors: you are going to keep breathing, but you'll can't smell anymore.

You can breath through your nose every time when its not obstructed, it doesn't matter whether you can smell or not. Hope it helps! :D
oh OK! thank you! :)
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 15, 2010, 12:24:19 AM
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
But how the hell he enjoyed his favorite colons then?
Karen F. said that she bought him something that he liked for his London tour....  :?


Well, that plus all the other inconsistencies on the aautopsy report must mean it's not Mike's ;)
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: letstalkagain on February 15, 2010, 01:18:28 AM
In aniother article the nurse stated that Mj loved Black Orchid cologne, so so much for the could'nt smell lie.  It is just one contradiction after another.  So many players and so many lies.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: fa on February 15, 2010, 07:09:55 AM
I saw once a time e small documentary showing that MJ really had smelling problems. This video shows MJ and Karen Fary playing a parfum war inside his SUV. And he explained that he almost couldn´t fell smells because of one of his nose jobs.

But I don´t remember seeing this in the autopsy relatory.
Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: llebreknit on February 15, 2010, 07:48:15 AM
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Title: Re: Why couldn't MJ smell?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on February 15, 2010, 08:56:53 AM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Poor MJ ... his first nose job is almost 30 years ago - can you imagine what life would be like without smelling or tasting hardly anything?  I can - at the moment I have to deal with a severe cold / flu ... and I can`t wait to get my senses back !

It makes me almost cry to think of all the health issues he had to deal with:

- severe acne in adolescence (and teasing of his family)
- nose jobs (to avoid further teasing - loosing important senses)
- dicoid lupus (butterfly rashes and deep scars afterwards - which he obviously let be removed via plastic surgeries several times, other than the singer Seal who - quite visibly - seems to live with it)
- permanent risk that dicoid lupus develops into - life-threatening - systemic lupus
- vitiligo (white and dark brown blotches all over his face and body - an explanation why he was so shy and reclusive?)
- his weak lung condition (his first breakdown because of pneumonia - in late 70s or early 80s - he describes in "Moonwalker")
- his severe scalp burns because of the Pepsi-accident (and lots of painful surgeries to follow)
- hair loss because of lupus (including lashes and brows)  AND the scalp burnings
- anorexia (well documented)
- insomnia (fear of nightmares because of child-trauma when his father threatened the boys at night with horrible masks, telling them they could be kidnapped out of their bedrooms)

And - on top - all the distress because of constantly working, creating, touring - being alomost alone responsible for the whole huge family`s income ever since he was 5.... ?

And the only fun which was left for this charismatic boy-man were some playful days with his buddies at Neverland - which society accused him for in the most terrible and disgusting way?

What a life ...    :shock:

Any wonder he became dependent on pain medication?  

Thinking of all this makes me cry - really ....  :(  :(  :(

It is really awful to think of all he had to endure.  :cry:  Not very many people could be that strong.

It's very possible he couldn't smell...my Granny lost her sense of smell completely after having polyps removed, so I'd imagine that many surgeries would have done it in.  My Gran can still taste food, but she salts the heck out of it.

I don't like the smell of Bal...it's too powdery for me.  It might have smelled really nice on MJ though.
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