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Title: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: jill on February 20, 2010, 09:06:04 PM
Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro...

[youtube:5du1q6rr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ael3ejrT_iQ[/youtube:5du1q6rr]
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: curious1 on February 20, 2010, 09:17:59 PM
All I can say is WOW. She seems to be on to something.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: mjboogie on February 20, 2010, 11:01:42 PM
I dont know about this one. Yes it was good but I need to think on it a bit. I am really not one that believes in the illuminati thing. ANd as for the symbol on this is it whre is it? Not trying to be dumb or debunk anyones work but where is that symbol with a bunch of MJ's in it or am I missing it? SHe does have a point as far as MJ's art album work we know that he being the genius artist he is delivered many messages through his music as well as his art as she has pointed out. :?
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Jennie on February 20, 2010, 11:21:58 PM
To me it makes a lot of sense. Wow! I am impressed, some investigators either catch on really fast or they hve more time than I do to analyze all this stuff.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: ilprincipe on February 21, 2010, 12:59:15 AM
I'm really sorry this time..I loved most of her former vids...but this one seems like a desperate try..
call me blind...call me stupid.
I think that Illuminati may exist, but I see NO relation to MJ...not in the past..not in the future.

In the last weeks there were so many other topics which could have been investigated
- Murray trial and the plastic car at the judge's desk
- Confirmation of fake ambu-pic from Brian Oxman
- green man at WATW

and now again this Illuminati stuff? It's getting boring
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: still beLIEve on February 21, 2010, 02:38:04 AM
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
I'm really sorry this time..I loved most of her former vids...but this one seems like a desperate try..
call me blind...call me stupid.
I think that Illuminati may exist, but I see NO relation to MJ...not in the past..not in the future.

In the last weeks there were so many other topics which could have been investigated
- Murray trial and the plastic car at the judge's desk
- Confirmation of fake ambu-pic from Brian Oxman
- green man at WATW

and now again this Illuminati stuff? It's getting boring


Because that is the point.... sometimes we are lost in the little things (which are important too) but we have to see the entire picture... and IMHO this is the most important part in all this.... and all the time through Michael´s life...

I don´t think you´re blind or stupid.... but suddenly all this information surfaced and I understand is difficult to assimilate..... I´ve been studying this subject "coincidently" for about one year before Michael´s "death".... and to me this match perfectly.... because there is something important going on in the world.... and I conected this to Michael´s awareness message even before this....

I think sometimes in the illuminatis post or videos some people just explain about them and their symbols and their history.... and it´s ok.... but there is somethings that you have to understand before study that because otherwise it´s logical that you watch it as a cience fiction movie.....

I would suggest you to see movies like "The secret" or "What the bleep you know" or maybe a conference of David Icke called "Beyond the cutting edge" which explains the real power of humans and how we don´t use that power.. and maybe that would help you understand why this is important and how all that connects to Michael´s messages.... he want us to discover our power.... he always wanted that... and that is why he was dangerous to the ones who don´t....

2012 it´s a very important date for the world too....  that´s why it´s important our awareness too... it´s not the end of the world it´s a chance to change our perception of it....

I don´t want you to think I´m being (i don´t know how to say in english) like a teacher? It´s just the way I was introduced to the subject and I think it might help....
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 21, 2010, 03:29:55 AM
well, I thought this was very good! but about the this is it poster, I dunno about that, I mean I see it but Ive read alot more convinving interpretations! i realy think there are more iconic MJ poses! so it def. means smoething!
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: ucheekyminx on February 21, 2010, 03:35:36 AM
I don't really agree.  I've never thought the BJ video had nothing to do with the song.  It has everything to do with the song and it's packed with symbolism regarding fame, the media, the public, money, power - all the things he sings about in the song.

I'd rather she focused on concrete undeniable clues/proof like the helicopter or all the slip ups than (as yet) unproven conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: ilprincipe on February 21, 2010, 08:38:24 AM
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
I'm really sorry this time..I loved most of her former vids...but this one seems like a desperate try..
call me blind...call me stupid.
I think that Illuminati may exist, but I see NO relation to MJ...not in the past..not in the future.

In the last weeks there were so many other topics which could have been investigated
- Murray trial and the plastic car at the judge's desk
- Confirmation of fake ambu-pic from Brian Oxman
- green man at WATW

and now again this Illuminati stuff? It's getting boring


Because that is the point.... sometimes we are lost in the little things (which are important too) but we have to see the entire picture... and IMHO this is the most important part in all this.... and all the time through Michael´s life...

I don´t think you´re blind or stupid.... but suddenly all this information surfaced and I understand is difficult to assimilate..... I´ve been studying this subject "coincidently" for about one year before Michael´s "death".... and to me this match perfectly.... because there is something important going on in the world.... and I conected this to Michael´s awareness message even before this....

I think sometimes in the illuminatis post or videos some people just explain about them and their symbols and their history.... and it´s ok.... but there is somethings that you have to understand before study that because otherwise it´s logical that you watch it as a cience fiction movie.....

I would suggest you to see movies like "The secret" or "What the bleep you know" or maybe a conference of David Icke called "Beyond the cutting edge" which explains the real power of humans and how we don´t use that power.. and maybe that would help you understand why this is important and how all that connects to Michael´s messages.... he want us to discover our power.... he always wanted that... and that is why he was dangerous to the ones who don´t....

2012 it´s a very important date for the world too....  that´s why it´s important our awareness too... it´s not the end of the world it´s a chance to change our perception of it....

I don´t want you to think I´m being (i don´t know how to say in english) like a teacher? It´s just the way I was introduced to the subject and I think it might help....

OK...thanks for the advice...I try to watch some of the movies....and will think about the whole situation...
right now it's just confusing to speak of MJ as an genius
and on the other hand he is or was a slave of "them" ...you know..it's some kind of disappointing
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Shout on February 21, 2010, 09:13:19 AM
Quote from: "curious1"
All I can say is WOW. She seems to be on to something.

All I can say is this is BS. Sorry!!! This does not convincing me! Michael was is in the first place an artist and not a fighter against Illuminati. To me there is no one convincing evidence for Michael´s fight against Illuminati. You will find this "clues" everywhere if you want to find them!! But this is just ridiculous sorry! Maybe she should point out everything not just some parts to underline her opinion, then I am sure she will find the truth instead of some illusions
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: *Mo* on February 21, 2010, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "curious1"
All I can say is WOW. She seems to be on to something.

All I can say is this is BS. Sorry!!! This does not convincing me! Michael was is in the first place an artist and not a fighter against Illuminati. To me there is no one convincing prove for Michael´s fight against Illuminati. You will find this "clues" everywhere if you want to find them!! But this is just ridiculous sorry! Maybe she should point out everything not just some parts to underline her opinion, then I am sure she will find the truth instead of some illusions

Hush-a-bye, don't you cry,
Go to sleepy little baby.
When you wake, you shall have,
All the pretty little horses.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Datroot on February 21, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
:?:   What does that mean?
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 21, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
All the symbolism in the album covers and the vids do seem to point toward Maura's theory.  The poster even shows the "crown" that is on the symbols head illuminated on the bottom of the poster between Michael's feet.

It is a lot to digest though.  I think we need to find out more about the guy who came up with the concept of the video for Billy Jean.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Shout on February 21, 2010, 09:24:32 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "curious1"
All I can say is WOW. She seems to be on to something.

All I can say is this is BS. Sorry!!! This does not convincing me! Michael was is in the first place an artist and not a fighter against Illuminati. To me there is no one convincing prove for Michael´s fight against Illuminati. You will find this "clues" everywhere if you want to find them!! But this is just ridiculous sorry! Maybe she should point out everything not just some parts to underline her opinion, then I am sure she will find the truth instead of some illusions

Hush-a-bye, don't you cry,
Go to sleepy little baby.
When you wake, you shall have,
All the pretty little horses.

What is your problem now Mo?
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: *Mo* on February 21, 2010, 09:32:08 AM
I have no problem at all, I just sang a nice lullaby for you...
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Shout on February 21, 2010, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
I have no problem at all, I just sang a nice lullaby for you...

I am happy for you...
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: the arabian nights on February 21, 2010, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
I'm really sorry this time..I loved most of her former vids...but this one seems like a desperate try..
call me blind...call me stupid.
I think that Illuminati may exist, but I see NO relation to MJ...not in the past..not in the future.

In the last weeks there were so many other topics which could have been investigated
- Murray trial and the plastic car at the judge's desk
- Confirmation of fake ambu-pic from Brian Oxman
- green man at WATW

and now again this Illuminati stuff? It's getting boring
with you girl
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: jill on February 21, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
I thought it was a good video and well done.  What confused me though was in her video message to her subscribers she said she did not think the Illuminati theory was that important.  I thought it was a bit contradictory for her.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: supermj4eva on February 21, 2010, 10:23:41 AM
maybe "the crown" is at his feet as a message he is conquering them? (or at least a major fuck you to them lol)
and i know all this illuminati stuff seems so far fetched and like bullshit but maybe its becuase we have only just touched onit and had no clue to its existance or plans before this.
but guys lets not fight or argue becuase one thing is clear .....
michael definitley had a message to get across to us.
and that there is definitley something dodgey about the higher powers of this world that we didnt really know before.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: jill on February 21, 2010, 10:32:31 AM
Quote from: "supermj4eva"
maybe "the crown" is at his feet as a message he is conquering them? (or at least a major fuck you to them lol)
and i know all this illuminati stuff seems so far fetched and like bullshit but maybe its becuase we have only just touched onit and had no clue to its existance or plans before this.
but guys lets not fight or argue becuase one thing is clear .....
michael definitley had a message to get across to us.
and that there is definitley something dodgey about the higher powers of this world that we didnt really know before.

I agree.  Even though information we have seen on it may or may not be correct we can't throw out the possibility of it's existance.  It does have a tendency to send your brain into overload.  You cannot have good without the opposite, evil.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: supermj4eva on February 21, 2010, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: "jill"
Quote from: "supermj4eva"
maybe "the crown" is at his feet as a message he is conquering them? (or at least a major fuck you to them lol)
and i know all this illuminati stuff seems so far fetched and like bullshit but maybe its becuase we have only just touched onit and had no clue to its existance or plans before this.
but guys lets not fight or argue becuase one thing is clear .....
michael definitley had a message to get across to us.
and that there is definitley something dodgey about the higher powers of this world that we didnt really know before.

I agree.  Even though information we have seen on it may or may not be correct we can't throw out the possibility of it's existance.  It does have a tendency to send your brain into overload.  You cannot have good without the opposite, evil.

yeah i agree, and its hard to put your brain in the right place to actuly beLIEve what is said but there is no denying there is strong evidence pointing to their existance and plans ...
is someone gunna give me evidence against that or just an opinion?
anyway back onto the actual message of this thread .....
what do you think we can do if maura IS RIGHT and michael has been trapped/exciled or whatever?
L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on February 21, 2010, 12:04:30 PM
If something bad happened to Michael  :evil: , and I hope to hell nothing did, I belive that it is more likely that the hideous and swarmy characters, like Thome, Mattola, and others, were responsible.  Michael fires Thome in early May and he is still going around saying he is in control of his stuff and what was he doing at the hospital anyway.  He still has MIchael's memorabilia and others wanted that damn catalog! Then there's the whole Florida Mafia connection  :evil:  and Michael falling out of their good graces.  I think they wanted the catalog too.  I do believe in some of the Illuminati theories in general, but I don't believe they are involved in taking Michael out.

Actually, I don't beLIEve anyone is.....cause he's alive!!  :D
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: still beLIEve on February 21, 2010, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
Quote from: "ilprincipe"
I'm really sorry this time..I loved most of her former vids...but this one seems like a desperate try..
call me blind...call me stupid.
I think that Illuminati may exist, but I see NO relation to MJ...not in the past..not in the future.

In the last weeks there were so many other topics which could have been investigated
- Murray trial and the plastic car at the judge's desk
- Confirmation of fake ambu-pic from Brian Oxman
- green man at WATW

and now again this Illuminati stuff? It's getting boring


Because that is the point.... sometimes we are lost in the little things (which are important too) but we have to see the entire picture... and IMHO this is the most important part in all this.... and all the time through Michael´s life...

I don´t think you´re blind or stupid.... but suddenly all this information surfaced and I understand is difficult to assimilate..... I´ve been studying this subject "coincidently" for about one year before Michael´s "death".... and to me this match perfectly.... because there is something important going on in the world.... and I conected this to Michael´s awareness message even before this....

I think sometimes in the illuminatis post or videos some people just explain about them and their symbols and their history.... and it´s ok.... but there is somethings that you have to understand before study that because otherwise it´s logical that you watch it as a cience fiction movie.....

I would suggest you to see movies like "The secret" or "What the bleep you know" or maybe a conference of David Icke called "Beyond the cutting edge" which explains the real power of humans and how we don´t use that power.. and maybe that would help you understand why this is important and how all that connects to Michael´s messages.... he want us to discover our power.... he always wanted that... and that is why he was dangerous to the ones who don´t....

2012 it´s a very important date for the world too....  that´s why it´s important our awareness too... it´s not the end of the world it´s a chance to change our perception of it....

I don´t want you to think I´m being (i don´t know how to say in english) like a teacher? It´s just the way I was introduced to the subject and I think it might help....

OK...thanks for the advice...I try to watch some of the movies....and will think about the whole situation...
right now it's just confusing to speak of MJ as an genius
and on the other hand he is or was a slave of "them" ...you know..it's some kind of disappointing


Well I don´t think he was a slave.... I think the opposite.... that´s why he is a dangerous to some people... because he is a natural lider and he is still spreading his messages of love...

We just don´t have to forget he was human too..... or at least he was living in a human body  ;)   so he had to deal with all the crap in the world.... when I was younger I really cried and always ask myself why??why they treat him like that??? why the media is always ridiculing him?? why??? Now I understand.... it´s not just because....

But no doubt he is strong enough.....  I think I wouldn´t be able to go through all he´s been through..... and still believing in love and thinking the world can change...... that´s enough reason to admire him! he is a genius! please don´t be disappointed!
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: tylerjo608 on February 21, 2010, 06:03:45 PM
Whoa....I don't even know where to begin so I'll probably just ramble..........Why are people having a hard time believing in the concept of Michael being involved with the illuminati???  Because it's uncomfortable???  It's unbelievable????  Michael wouldn't allow it?????  Yes the idea is uncomfortable and unbelievable and maybe Michael didn't allow it per say, but maybe he didn't have a choice or didn't realize what it was all about......until he woke up and saw what was happening to him. We are willing to believe that Michael IS NOT DEAD (that's sometimes uncomfortable to talk about with unbelievers, it is unbelievable to think that could be true, Michael wouldn't do that to his fans and family........) but in our minds we can't connect our dear sweet Michael with the illuminati.  Unfortunately, it could be true....so read up on mind control and illuuminati influences before quick judgement is made to say .....nah....don't buy it.  (I didn't want to buy it, but after reading myself about this, it was hard not to see at least some correlation to Michael and his behavior and circumstances in his life).

Nonbelievers say the same thing about Michael being alive......nah....don't buy it....why?????
Because they haven't done any research to know anything that would suggest that they should think otherwise.  

Albert Einstien said; "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance".

And I think investigation goes beyond reading articles and books and such...it calls for us to do something that I think is part of Michael's message..  Look beyond the obvious, read between the lines, listen to your inner voice and process the possibilities.  The outcome might not always be pretty or what we thought might be but at least LOOK at the possibilities.

If we have not learned this yet from Michaels clues and messages, then we missed the boat.

Maura's observations about the Billie Jean vid may be .....ummmmmm...not right on specifically, but the message is there.  Look beyond the obvious...  We want specific clues that are right in our face...the green man is Michael, Jermaine said Michael left the airport....etc.....

Michael has NOT ever given us any clues that are right in our face (ok......Halima's t-shirt that says "Michael Lives" was pretty in your face but......that's about it).  He probably could not come right out and say..." Hey, these creepy illuminati people are making my life miserable....they did this to me....and took my money......and gave me drugs......and.....and......and.......". Not too safe.  So he tried to send messages in his music and such......I don't think we got it.    SO....now........

We need to "wake up"    (ummmm.....Mo, was this your reference to the lulluby???????)
and see what Michael has gone through and help him  continue "The Truth Campaign".

It appears that Michael will come back when he sees that we......"get it"
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: KacyLovesMJ on February 21, 2010, 07:24:16 PM
Ok I have to say this. I stayed quiet about her video after I saw it because I didn't agree with it but I think some people are missing something here and I must address it.

IF the Illuminati really does exist, and IF Michael's "death" had anything to do with them, he would really be dead and it would be a LOT cleaner than it is. It would NOT be this sloppy and his "death" would be very believable. If Michael thought they were after him and hoaxed his death to escape them, well.... since they are so powerful and have people all over the world working for them, I'm sorry, he would not be able to successfully hoax his death. They would find him. I honestly do not think that the hoax goes in this direction for the reasons I just stated. If they really do exist, you cannot hide from them. From what I have heard, they have so many members and you don't know who they all are. I do believe Michael was threatened, probably as well as his concerts (which means the fans were threatened too) but I don't feel it was by this "secret society" or anyone to do with the government (although I do not like our government at all). FBI, CIA, Illuminati... there's no hiding from them and if they had anything to do with the "death", like I said, he would really be dead and it would not be this sloppy with clues of him being alive everywhere.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: still beLIEve on February 21, 2010, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: "KacyLovesMJ"
Ok I have to say this. I stayed quiet about her video after I saw it because I didn't agree with it but I think some people are missing something here and I must address it.

IF the Illuminati really does exist, and IF Michael's "death" had anything to do with them, he would really be dead and it would be a LOT cleaner than it is. It would NOT be this sloppy and his "death" would be very believable. If Michael thought they were after him and hoaxed his death to escape them, well.... since they are so powerful and have people all over the world working for them, I'm sorry, he would not be able to successfully hoax his death. They would find him. I honestly do not think that the hoax goes in this direction for the reasons I just stated. If they really do exist, you cannot hide from them. From what I have heard, they have so many members and you don't know who they all are. I do believe Michael was threatened, probably as well as his concerts (which means the fans were threatened too) but I don't feel it was by this "secret society" or anyone to do with the government (although I do not like our government at all). FBI, CIA, Illuminati... there's no hiding from them and if they had anything to do with the "death", like I said, he would really be dead and it would not be this sloppy with clues of him being alive everywhere.

You are making it to easy.... this is not 2+2=4..... it is more complicated....
Michael is in the eye of the public since a very young age..... he didn´t need them to become famous.... so when he get dangerous they just tried to make his life and carreer imposible... and that is a fact..... you think all that was a coincidence???? you think that was a little thing???? what they did to him it was worse than kill him..... they thought they could ruin him... how many times since 1993 we thought he would not come back.... he wouldn´t be able to recover.......they thought the same, but he did it again and again....  you´re missing here how especial is Michael.....
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: KacyLovesMJ on February 22, 2010, 07:36:38 AM
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
You are making it to easy.... this is not 2+2=4..... it is more complicated....
Michael is in the eye of the public since a very young age..... he didn´t need them to become famous.... so when he get dangerous they just tried to make his life and carreer imposible... and that is a fact..... you think all that was a coincidence???? you think that was a little thing???? what they did to him it was worse than kill him..... they thought they could ruin him... how many times since 1993 we thought he would not come back.... he wouldn´t be able to recover.......they thought the same, but he did it again and again....  you´re missing here how especial is Michael.....

I did not say that he never had anyone (or group of people) out to ruin him. I said that if they had anything to do with this "death", and I quote that because I DO believe he's alive, then he would really be dead. A lot of people think that he has faked his death to escape the Illuminati and all I am saying is there is NO way you can escape these people IF they actually exist (the Illuminati) as they WILL find you. From what I have learned about them, they have a LOT of members and NO ONE knows exactly who all is with them. And IF they were to have anything to do with ANYONE'S death, it wouldn't be this sloppy and the person would actually BE dead. I hope that is easier for you to understand what I was trying to say. I have been a fan of Michael's since I was a little girl so yes, I do know how special Michael is.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: still beLIEve on February 22, 2010, 02:53:24 PM
I do understand what your saying.... what I try to say here is that they didn´t kill him because they thought it would not be necesary.... but Michael knew that if he came back again with all his messages they would probably do it..... so that is why I think he hoax his death and leave the messages anyway for us to understand what is going on...
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 28, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
IMO the poster of TII reminds me more about Jesus and the crucifixion than the satanic goat. I see MJ as more of a ''biblical'' (not in it's litteral sense) savior-ish type of person who has been mocked and  punished by the public than in relations of satanism. Or maybe I misunderstood the point of the video.
But the poster with the feet gatheres, arms straightened at the sides and head bowed just reminds me more of Jesus.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: paula-c on February 28, 2010, 07:42:51 PM
I'm not here to convince anyone of the existence or not of us Iluminatti adults and everyone believes what you think best.
When a person comes into the music industry, depending on the success you have, you receive a formal invitation to meet with officials demanding musical which one to ask you wing insignia (this information is unjoven which destroyed the singer say no).
This can be seen on the following link; www.Nuevoordenmundialrepitiliano.blogspot.com (http://www.Nuevoordenmundialrepitiliano.blogspot.com), the page is using the Spanish translator.
If you accept to do what they say, otherwise, say that if you sink them away and then you killed. This is real investigate for yourselves.
I want to clarify that I am thinking that Michael was killed, but I think if you turn away from these people. :geek:
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 01, 2010, 02:03:15 AM
I always found the TII pose strange, it looked to me like his hands and arms were forming horns. Like the devil.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on March 02, 2010, 09:41:26 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "curious1"
All I can say is WOW. She seems to be on to something.

All I can say is this is BS. Sorry!!! This does not convincing me! Michael was is in the first place an artist and not a fighter against Illuminati. To me there is no one convincing prove for Michael´s fight against Illuminati. You will find this "clues" everywhere if you want to find them!! But this is just ridiculous sorry! Maybe she should point out everything not just some parts to underline her opinion, then I am sure she will find the truth instead of some illusions

Hush-a-bye, don't you cry,
Go to sleepy little baby.
When you wake, you shall have,
All the pretty little horses.





 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I have read alot of your come backs to the naysayers Mo and have  :lol:  here alone at my house tempted to post a comment in support of you. I have restrained my self until this one. This should get an award.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on March 02, 2010, 10:47:10 PM
:geek:

I just got done reviewing Maura's Truth video and well, I must say good for her, she is finally seeing the truth. She hasn't always been on this truth campaign from the jumpstreet with her intial videos in her series. She also had a veil of deception over her eyes.

She was also one of those people who was in denial of the truth when it came to the Illuminati. She also wanted to stay very far from it.

Many people were already aware of the Illuminati and how they had a huge influence over MJ and his life at one point. Many people were trying to expose this truth here on this site and many people attacked those people with naysayer shit. She was one of them.

She posted nasty comments and videos towards the people who had been trying to expose the truth all along.

I am glad to see she is coming around but, my advice is to not take everything you hear from someone who may not have the FULL understanding of the Illuminati.

Unless you do extensive research outside of this forum and read up on it yourself, you will not be able to FULLY understand it.

Many people will blindly follow half truths. There is always half truths within half lies.

Do not always trust or listen to the messenger without your own proper investigation and your own gut TRUTH feeling.

While I am a very strong believer in the fact that the Illuminati exists and at one point they did have a very strong influence over MJ's life, that is no longer the case.

One thing you can not do or ever do is KILL a TRUE PURE spirit and soul like MJ.
No matter how much evil influence is over one persons life when you have a soul as PURE as MJ's it will shine as his does and never be put out.

Because MJ is as PURE as he is at his core, it is the very reason he has masterminded this GREAT ESCAPE from the evil. This is the reason MJ has been able to expose the evilness and the Illuminati. He is protected by GOD. He is very much ALIVE and in full charge of this whole experience.

That is the power of faith. That is the power of TRUTH, and GOOD.
That is the power of GOD.
MJ is the TRUTHTELLER.


Don't be lead by confusion.
Peace
 :geek:
Title: Re: Maura\'s New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Dorian on March 03, 2010, 02:55:01 AM
Quote from: Im_convincedmjalive
:geek:

"I just got done reviewing Maura's Truth video and well, I must say good for her, she is finally seeing the truth. She hasn't always been on this truth campaign from the jumpstreet with her intial videos in her series. She also had a veil of deception over her eyes."
 
Really? And you know this because you know her personally?



"She was also one of those people who was in denial of the truth when it came to the Illuminati. She also wanted to stay very far from it."

Denial because she didn't think it was the largest reason behind the hoax? Because one should choose to stay far away from an issue, doesn't mean that that they are in denial over it...

"I am glad to see she is coming around but, my advice is to not take everything you hear from someone who may not have the FULL understanding of the Illuminati."

And you have a full understanding then? Only a person in the Illuminati would... If you are in the Illuminati posting on a MJDH forum... Well there is a bigger issue at hand... NOBODY on this forum or any other forum that is claiming to "have inside knowledge" of the Illuminati does... Any person that would believe otherwise is a complete idiot...

"Unless you do extensive research outside of this forum and read up on it yourself, you will not be able to FULLY understand it."

Research= STILL just coming up with a theory... There are NO facts surrounding the Illuminati... Speculation only... There for that makes nobody an expert.

"While I am a very strong believer in the fact that the Illuminati exists and at one point they did have a very strong influence over MJ's life, that is no longer the case."

Right, exactly what she has been saying. Do you even realize how much sense you are not making?

"One thing you can not do or ever do is KILL a TRUE PURE spirit and soul like MJ.
No matter how much evil influence is over one persons life when you have a soul as PURE as MJ's it will shine as his does and never be put out."

Wow... You and Mj must be great friends for you to know so much about how pure his soul is.. (Why is this girl always called crazy again?)


"Because MJ is as PURE as he is at his core, it is the very reason he has masterminded this GREAT ESCAPE from the evil. This is the reason MJ has been able to expose the evilness and the Illuminati. He is protected by GOD. He is very much ALIVE and in full charge of this whole experience."

"Don't be lead by confusion.
Peace"

No matter how many hate videos are made about her, no matter how many nasty threads are made about her, no matter how many lies are told about her, she always comes out on top. Do you know why? Because she is working for the truth. I am completely stunned by how the number of people walking around crying about wanting the "truth" but doing everything that that can be done to push it away.

Do you know where Maura is right now? I'll bet you would love to know...
It's somewhere that you could only wish that you were... Do you know how she got there? Because all of the negativity that people from THIS forum threw at her, backfired and got the attention of some very interesting people of interest.

So here is what i can say, before I am banned. Keep it up!! Keep bringing attention to  her because of your jealousy and hate. Every single time you create a post bashing her, you are showing the world that she is doing something right...

“Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius.”

Get over it
 :geek:
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on March 03, 2010, 03:27:05 AM
@ Dorian,

First I have no understanding of anything you just posted in response to my message.

It was very broken and not really intelligent. Second I have no reason to go on an attack or hate campaign for or about Maura. My post was simple stating fact.

I am a grown woman of 41 and I am an independant thinker. Always have been, always will be.

There is absolutely nothing in this forum or on anyone's videos that influence my opinions other than my own opinion and what I see from MJ the man himself.

Everything I stated wasn't an attack but a learning tool for anyone who read it correctly and interpreted correctly. I do not have hidden agendas. The only agenda I have is to see JUSTICE for MJ. And to go on an adventure of knowledge and TRUTH.

Everything I stated was mature and non attacking and if you had maturity you would see it for what it is. I do not type with emotions, I type with logic.

You appear to have typed with aggression and emotion that I have not involked or provoked.

I have understanding of things because I keep an open spiritual mind and heart.

Whatever you choose to believe is your God given right, as is mine.

Everything was said for a reason but it appears beyond your comprehension, if you took offense of it and felt you needed to defend Maura.

I do not have any history of her issues with this forum. I made my opinion based on this video and a few others she had made addressing this forum which included ALL assholes over at Mo and Souza's thread. Well, I am one of those people she so called politely addressed as an asshole.

Not once in my original post did I call her out her name.

Even what I stated was to be taken as not the truth unless properly investigated independantly of itself. Not to be taken at face value unless you properly investigated it with knowledge and gut TRUTH.

Investigate my posts. Look at my sign up date. Find out where my head is at. Research who I am before making snap decisions and judgement calls based on ignorance.

Beyond that, nothing of a petty nature about Maura or anyone else for that matter interests me or do I find fasinating.

The only mission I am on is a mission of self discovery, TRUTH, and Justice for MJ.

I am on a mission and an adventure of a lifetime, I am here to enjoy this not dispute petty sillyness.

This isn't about who is winning a popularity contest.

Peace
 :geek:
Title: Re: Maura\\\'s New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Dorian on March 03, 2010, 10:51:53 AM
@Im

No dearest enlightened one... Child of god... I am far from unintelligent and I comprehend very well the motivational force behind your original post... Like she has stated, like I have stated and many others with common sense has stated, assholes at Souza and Mos forum, was addressed to the assholes here. If you don't group yourself in with the mean and nasty people that attacked her, then she wasnt addressing you.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: techdiva on March 03, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: "jill"
I thought it was a good video and well done.  What confused me though was in her video message to her subscribers she said she did not think the Illuminati theory was that important.  I thought it was a bit contradictory for her.
I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Shout on March 04, 2010, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "curious1"
All I can say is WOW. She seems to be on to something.

All I can say is this is BS. Sorry!!! This does not convincing me! Michael was is in the first place an artist and not a fighter against Illuminati. To me there is no one convincing prove for Michael´s fight against Illuminati. You will find this "clues" everywhere if you want to find them!! But this is just ridiculous sorry! Maybe she should point out everything not just some parts to underline her opinion, then I am sure she will find the truth instead of some illusions

Hush-a-bye, don't you cry,
Go to sleepy little baby.
When you wake, you shall have,
All the pretty little horses.





 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I have read alot of your come backs to the naysayers Mo and have  :lol:  here alone at my house tempted to post a comment in support of you. I have restrained my self until this one. This should get an award.

 :mrgreen:


Which again underlines...
Title: Re: Maura\'s New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: *Mo* on March 09, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: "Dorian"
Do you know where Maura is right now? I'll bet you would love to know...
It's somewhere that you could only wish that you were... Do you know how she got there? Because all of the negativity that people from THIS forum threw at her, backfired and got the attention of some very interesting people of interest.

Our sources tell us all we needed to know about 'Maura's' supposed whereabouts...
Title: Re: Maura\'s New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: PinkTopaz on March 09, 2010, 10:34:27 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Dorian"
Do you know where Maura is right now? I'll bet you would love to know...
It's somewhere that you could only wish that you were... Do you know how she got there? Because all of the negativity that people from THIS forum threw at her, backfired and got the attention of some very interesting people of interest.

Our sources tell us all we needed to know about 'Maura's' supposed whereabouts...
Lemme guess.. That "Dorian" there is her, isn't it? I won't be surprised at all..
Title: Re: Maura's New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: pyt777 on March 10, 2010, 11:53:08 AM
Quote
KacyLovesMJ wrote:Ok I have to say this. I stayed quiet about her video after I saw it because I didn't agree with it but I think some people are missing something here and I must address it.

IF the Illuminati really does exist, and IF Michael's "death" had anything to do with them, he would really be dead and it would be a LOT cleaner than it is. It would NOT be this sloppy and his "death" would be very believable. If Michael thought they were after him and hoaxed his death to escape them, well.... since they are so powerful and have people all over the world working for them, I'm sorry, he would not be able to successfully hoax his death. They would find him. I honestly do not think that the hoax goes in this direction for the reasons I just stated. If they really do exist, you cannot hide from them. From what I have heard, they have so many members and you don't know who they all are. I do believe Michael was threatened, probably as well as his concerts (which means the fans were threatened too) but I don't feel it was by this "secret society" or anyone to do with the government (although I do not like our government at all). FBI, CIA, Illuminati... there's no hiding from them and if they had anything to do with the "death", like I said, he would really be dead and it would not be this sloppy with clues of him being alive everywhere.

Kacy I would like to direct you to the following video:

[youtube:12j1u48o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI[/youtube:12j1u48o]

This is just one of the MANY sloppy undertakings of the Illuminati.  It's follow up being another one: the War in Iraq...Yes they are powerful, but they are also humans who employ other humans to do the tasks which would lead up to the final cut.

This is not to say that they are the reason behind this hoax.  However, if you need further evidence of their sloppy work, you can PM me  ;)
Title: Re: Maura\\\\\\\'s New Video Truth Campaign Intro
Post by: Dorian on March 11, 2010, 01:17:48 AM
Quote from: \"PinkTopaz\"
Quote from: \"*Mo*\"
Quote from: \"Dorian\"
Do you know where Maura is right now? I\\\'ll bet you would love to know...
It\\\'s somewhere that you could only wish that you were... Do you know how she got there? Because all of the negativity that people from THIS forum threw at her, backfired and got the attention of some very interesting people of interest.

Our sources tell us all we needed to know about \'Maura\'s\' supposed whereabouts...
Lemme guess.. That \"Dorian\" there is her, isn\'t it? I won\'t be surprised at all..

I can assure you that Maura and I are not one in the same... Believe it or not, there are actually people out there that consider her a fairly intelligent human being... Just because i'm not on the bash Maura bandwagon and can think for myself, does not make her and I the same person... Grow up and stop stirring the pot... Everytime this issue regarding her is dropped, here comes one of you immature little pissants... Leave her alone find something more productive to do with your time, aside from attacking a person that has never personally done anything to you...

Mo... What do you mean? PM me please...
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