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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: OneLove on February 21, 2010, 02:09:11 AM

Title: We only have four years?
Post by: OneLove on February 21, 2010, 02:09:11 AM
In TII when Michael says 'we only have four years left' to his crew, what do you think he was referring to? Many have though it means 2012, but that's actually 3 years away, fron the time he said it. Some people have said he will have a 2012 comeback, but that would be contradictory because he thinks the world's going to end in 2012. Maybe i'm thinking too far into this, i just couldn't stop thinking about it.
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: still beLIEve on February 21, 2010, 03:03:01 AM
He is talking about 2012.... that was filmed at the end of 2008 or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12 so we have all year 2009, all year 2010, all year 2011 and all 2012..... it´s four....

And it´s not the end of the world..... if we wake up.... here is something about the maya prediction... it is misunderstood.... but Michael warned us because to live this as a spiritual change we must connect to it..... in one word... LOVE


"This was the ceremony the initiates took to enter the true God Centered Paradigm of galactic center. This was the true birth of the Mayan cosmovision, and the fall of the polar and zenith centered cosmologies.

Perhaps the most difficult concept to fathom is the precessional cycle of 26,000 years determined by the axis of the Earth inscribing a great circular arc in the heavens know as the 26,000 year precession. The final analysis of the Maya Cosmogenesis 2012 shows how the rising sun on December 21st, 2012 will align itself directly with the center of the galaxy. This wobbling of Earth's axis changes our orientation to galactic center and this opens the way for the beginning of a new world age, a re-birth into an entirely new participation in the greater whole. This 2012 solar galactic alignment offers all of humanity the opportunity to assimilate the complete understanding of returning to galactic center. It will augur the complete understanding of the ascent and decent of our higher minds and spiritual understanding.

This momentous end cycle moment will create a never before experienced spiritual and metaphysical phenomenon, a bridge to galactic center. This moment in our history will create a new re-birth as a result of the churning of the Milky Way ocean"
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 21, 2010, 09:01:06 AM
ANOTHER PART OF ME


listen to it
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Eva R on February 21, 2010, 09:35:02 AM
I also thought it was recorded in 2008 so he meant 2012 but when the movie begins it says something like: this movie features videos from march/june. So thats the weird thing :S so if its true what they say, he said: we have 4 years in march/june 2009 :S
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 21, 2010, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: "Eva R"
I also thought it was recorded in 2008 so he meant 2012 but when the movie begins it says something like: this movie features videos from march/june. So thats the weird thing :S so if its true what they say, he said: we have 4 years in march/june 2009 :S

Exactly
I really have know idea to what he was refering to  :?
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Figment on February 21, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
As intriguing as the 2012 theory is, many astronomers clarify that our solar system as whole does oscillate up and down, but that currently the system is 70 Light Years above galactic center. (That's 70 x 6 trillion miles!)

So disaster on 12/21/2012 does not look imminent to astronomers, but it does sell books and generate add space for some of the people hocking this information on the Interwebs  ;) .

Link to thread in popular blog for astronomers where this subject sometimes comes up:
http://www.bautforum.com/astronomy/7461 ... 012-a.html (http://www.bautforum.com/astronomy/74615-our-solar-systems-eclipse-galactic-plane-dec-21-2012-a.html)


Isn't it more likely that 2012 is significant b/c that's when rights to the masters  of MJ's recordings revert back to him (now his estate) from Sony?

One theory from the article linked below:

     "Branca is expected to try to postpone any Jackson releases until the expiry of the Sony contract, so that he can engineer a bidding war among labels. Jackson's estate could also issue the music on their own independent imprint."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/ju ... n-material (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/16/michael-jackson-material)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: mirandacnc on February 21, 2010, 10:48:21 AM
HAHA DOESNT MURRAY ONLY GET 4 YRS FOR MANSLAUGHTER....CLUE :o
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 21, 2010, 11:15:41 AM
four years in my life is a long time - so mike hurry up -  come on - what you doing here?
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: letstalkagain on February 21, 2010, 12:28:10 PM
God says no one knows the time of hour of the christ's return.  Man had also said that the year 2000 was
going to cause massive problems for computers that everything would simply shut down and it would be
kaos for all of the world.  Guess what nothing happens, don't sub,it to fear people !! Even Jesus does not know the day or hour of his return !
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 21, 2010, 01:03:29 PM
mikes a man not jesus
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Em on February 21, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
He is talking about 2012.... that was filmed at the end of 2008 or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12


Date on Mayan calendar:  12/21
Time the 911 call made at:  12:21

A clue right from the start!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: still beLIEve on February 21, 2010, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Eva R"
I also thought it was recorded in 2008 so he meant 2012 but when the movie begins it says something like: this movie features videos from march/june. So thats the weird thing :S so if its true what they say, he said: we have 4 years in march/june 2009 :S

Exactly
I really have know idea to what he was refering to  :?

Quote from: "still beLIEve"
or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12 so we have all year 2009, all year 2010, all year 2011 and all 2012..... it´s four....


ok... maybe it´s 3 years and 8 months??? it´s the same! he was talking about that! :)

This will not happen in one day..... the world won´t change on 21/12 it´s a process..... that´s why we have to start now!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Raven on February 21, 2010, 02:54:28 PM
Why do I keep reading "We only have four EARS" ?  :lol:

What was up with EARS again..
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: MJalive999 on February 27, 2010, 07:54:39 AM
'4 years'? it' was 'nice' ...

did u see the Chile earthquake today??

TIME? what is that? we don't have it...
and things will only get worse btw ... Get Ready!

WAKE UP or it will be too late! (and it's ...)

THEY DON'T  REALLY  CARE ABOUT US!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: _Dangerous_ on February 27, 2010, 08:02:18 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
'4 years'? it' was 'nice' ...

did u see the Chile earthquake today??

TIME? what is that? we don't have it...
and things will only get worse btw ... Get Ready!

WAKE UP or it will be too late! (and it's ...)

THEY DON'T  REALLY  CARE ABOUT US!

Exaclty.. I think that right now.. we have less than 4 years  :?
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Solid121 on February 27, 2010, 08:10:56 AM
I think it referred to the "World Tour" that he was going to embark on, it was scheduled to be over a period of 4 years, taking up residencies in various arenas around the world and visting as many countries as possible. I think the meaning behind it was in a sense "These are the last concerts I'm ever going to do and therefore we only have 4 years to spread the message to the people about the way the earth is being treated and that there should be more l.o.v.e" - (Just a thought)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: MJalive999 on February 27, 2010, 08:14:35 AM
When he sets himself up as God war will break out in heaven. Satan, having received false glory as the Almighty from his son the antichrist, will be cast down to earth along with his legions of demons who side with him in the heavenly battle. This will occur three and a half years after the peace agreement has been signed and marks the beginning of the 1,290 day desolation period.
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: steffmaster1 on February 27, 2010, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: "Em"
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
He is talking about 2012.... that was filmed at the end of 2008 or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12


Date on Mayan calendar:  12/21
Time the 911 call made at:  12:21

A clue right from the start!

Sure was!!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Raven on February 27, 2010, 08:20:07 AM
Quote from: "OneLove"
In TII when Michael says 'we only have four years left' to his crew, what do you think he was referring to? Many have though it means 2012, but that's actually 3 years away, fron the time he said it. Some people have said he will have a 2012 comeback, but that would be contradictory because he thinks the world's going to end in 2012. Maybe i'm thinking too far into this, i just couldn't stop thinking about it.
It is about global warming that he was referring to. Wasn't that more than obvious from the "Earth" song he was preparing for TII? Within several years, this problem needs to have been taken care of otherwise it will be irreversible..nature..rainforests..waterlevel will rise..extinction of plant and animal species and so on. Nature was very important to him.
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: MJLover1990 on February 27, 2010, 08:27:10 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
'4 years'? it' was 'nice' ...

did u see the Chile earthquake today??

TIME? what is that? we don't have it...
and things will only get worse btw ... Get Ready!

WAKE UP or it will be too late! (and it's ...)

THEY DON'T  REALLY  CARE ABOUT US!

AMEN!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 27, 2010, 09:10:40 AM
Maybe he was referring to Kyoto Protocol??
In 2012, Annex I countries must have fulfilled their obligations of reduction of greenhouse gases emissions established for the first commitment period (2008–2012) (see Annex B of the Protocol).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol

Just guessing...
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: still looking on February 27, 2010, 09:32:19 AM
Global Warming is HOAX. ITS a political movement. They have just admitted to falsifying records, omitting facts and posting stats thatare nto scientifically studied. The head of the Global Warming myth just resigned in humiliation. Mj is too smart ot think man can alter the EARTH. Do we need to be good stewards, of course. Do not pollute......but we cann change the atmsophere.
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Believe 777 on February 27, 2010, 10:40:44 AM
TIAI.com is now redirecting to this thread, about the 12:21 911 call being a clue about 2012 Mayan prophecy.
Personally I do believe in this and people need to WAKE UP and see that together we can change the world.
I felt from the start that the 4 year reference made in TII was relating to this and I guess for those who believe in TS/TIAI, we know have confirmation. It doesn't get much bigger than this and with Michael leading the way and us joining together in truth and love we can make this a positive change to our world. :D
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 27, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
from my doubles research i believe that the reference to 4 years means the time for the rehearsal, the time at the 02 residency and the following world tour  - total time of about 4 years
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: silver_glepha on February 27, 2010, 11:13:21 AM
noticed 12:21 before but i thought it was obvious for everyone
oh well

if you all really interested
look at this http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/ (http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/)
and watch this SELF-EXPLANATORY videos
10 parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfiR26Er2I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfiR26Er2I)
you can find these videos on youtube with any language subtitles


while watching keep these words in mind "this is a great adventure"
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: still beLIEve on February 27, 2010, 12:31:46 PM
Thank you for the videos.... I haven´t watch those...  but it is what I believe.... I think people have to open their minds..... stop thinking tridimensional..... we live in this world! but we are much more than this body!

LOVE
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: TinkerBell_777 on February 27, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
Quote from: "Em"
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
He is talking about 2012.... that was filmed at the end of 2008 or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12


Date on Mayan calendar:  12/21
Time the 911 call made at:  12:21

A clue right from the start!

   Of course Michael refers to 2012, which is very known to us because of the Mayan Prophecy. But if you dig deeper into the message and the meaning of this date, you will find even more clues. For example, 21.12.2012 marks the winter solstice (compare the multiplication image from They Don't Care About Us - soldiers in front of an M shaped arch of triumph or rock, with the sun rays in the centre - with a Stonehenge image from the winter solsice).

More than that, please take time and read carefully the following interview, it explains the Illuminati plan regarding 2012:

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html (http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html)

If you don't have enough time (though it's very important to understand how they think and what their goals are), please go directly to the question "Is 2012 harvest time?" and the Illuminati insider's answer...

L.O.V.E,
Andy
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 27, 2010, 12:43:03 PM
If these natural created by man disasters keep up at the rate they are occurring, we might have even less than that :(   Natural disasters as a result of unnatural assaults on the earth and its atmosphere by man made influences.
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Gina Jackson on February 27, 2010, 02:57:29 PM
Quote
MJalive999 wrote:
'4 years'? it' was 'nice' ...

did u see the Chile earthquake today??

TIME? what is that? we don't have it...
and things will only get worse btw ... Get Ready!

WAKE UP or it will be too late! (and it's ...)

THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!

Yes my friend JAPAN,HAITI,CHILE,HAWAY??
I'm sad & scared & worried...Only "me" have no condition to change anything, but WE "all"" UNITED have "POWER" & can be "STRONG".
WHY the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE DON'T STAY UNITED TO CHANGE ANYTHING OR AT LEAST TO TRY or really will be TOO LATE?
I need make URGENTLY anything to help....OMG!!! I'm crying...sorry! SADNESS....to see my brothers' suffering around world.
This moment I'm asking GOD to protect HAWAI too!!
I LOVE THE WORLD & ALL HUMAN BEING & WE NEED A BETTER PLACE! I WANT A BETTER PLACE!
THAT'S THE MESSAGE...BUT NO ONE DID PAY ATTENTION! PLEASE WAKE UP! GO AHEAD!!!!
THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!!!!
"...to remind the world that L.O.V.E. is important, to LOVE each other We're all one...THAT'S THE MESSAGE and Take Care of the PLANET! We have four years to set it right or else.It's irreversible.The damage we've done.So we have an important message to give okay? It's IMPORTANT but I thank you for your cooperation so far. THANK YOU!BIG THANK YOU" (MICHAEL J.JACKSON 2009)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: paula-c on February 27, 2010, 03:43:29 PM
Gina Jackson, You are right, the same way I feel, since the earth quake in Haiti has not stopped moving in Latin America, have been practically moves in almost all countries, and now this in Chile, 8.8 degrees, with a duration of two minutes worse ½ than Haiti. We are currently experiencing the worst drought in living memory, we are literally running out of water, heat is unbearable (and look I am a person Accustomed to the heat), there are regions where temperatures are reaching 42 and 43 degrees centigrade. The truth I'm afraid and much prejudice. :geek:
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: LunaCielo on February 27, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: "OneLove"
In TII when Michael says 'we only have four years left' to his crew, what do you think he was referring to? Many have though it means 2012, but that's actually 3 years away, fron the time he said it. Some people have said he will have a 2012 comeback, but that would be contradictory because he thinks the world's going to end in 2012. Maybe i'm thinking too far into this, i just couldn't stop thinking about it.

I believe that Michael is referring to the NWO plan, which includes world domination in 2012.
The secular purpose of the Illuminati is just that: the establishment of a New World Order and World Government by 2012 .... :roll:
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: simalves on February 27, 2010, 05:48:27 PM
Thank you @TS for directing here. Also is OneLove related to the hoax? That was a very time appropriate thread :)

Something makes me think that the green screen, the four years and all tie in together. Maybe part of TII filmed Michael with green screen way back in 2008 and was added to the dancers later. That gives Michael a chance to direct the movie and he would need standins for placement.

That is also the most important reason why Michael looks so different in different places - the ears, the chin, the weight and of course the level of enthusiasm. Michael finally decided that he needed to add more enthusiasm and so he filmed a 6 hour rehearsal the 'day before he died'. And of course took HQ pictures in those clothes.

I am wondering about the stain on the pant - was it intentional so that we would identify with those clothes?

This is a very entertaining project that is supposed to last 4 years, perfect timing with the added hype about 2012. Problem is all of us are weaker than Michael and may not last the long drawn out climax.
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: paula-c on February 27, 2010, 06:58:15 PM
In the opinion of many scientists, ecological disasters that fell on Europe and Asia this summer, witness some common global reasons behind their origin.  First of all, believe that there is the possibility of the secret use and without geophysical arms sanctions.

Ecological and climatic problems will become such that they will have serious consequences on the quality of life of the "upper social classes". Globalization (or "globalization") is not negative in itself. "Can potentially allow the establishment of a lasting world peace and better management of resources".The new world order that corporations have in mind is in fact not-so-new but if it is negative. It is an attempt to roll back the world prior to World War II of domination and colonial plundering of the land, work and resources of Africa, Asia, Latin America and the middle of a handful of industrialized capitalist era. Contrary to the old world order of full colonialism, the new world order is imposed by stealth aircraft, guided missiles, smart bombs and tactical nuclear weapons, made disasters, earthquakes, tsunamis, drought, floods, plagues and bacteriological war, psychological warfare is no count, for years now with the parapsicológica or psicotónica, war under the global "war psi" or "psy-war" as it are already calling for time Americans and British designation. It is worth recalling once again the origin of the phenomenon for example: of the pandemic of AIDS, avian INFLUENZA, etc., the Pentagon warned in a secret report to develop biological elements through genetic engineering manufacturen new weapons of mass destruction. The human genome project opens the door of ethnic bioweapons; biological agents developed by the South African Government for its apartheid days some strains of bio-toxins unique and specific leverages genetic variations of their victims to attack them. "" Report outsider", a publication of the respected group Jane, where mention that scientific Israel used something South African research to try to develop a 'ethnic bullet'..." One of the joint projects in Israel and South Africa was the development of nuclear weapons.


Since we do before a blind and deaf world?

God protects us,..... :geek:
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: IDK3MJ on February 27, 2010, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: "silver_glepha"
noticed 12:21 before but i thought it was obvious for everyone
oh well

if you all really interested
look at this http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/ (http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/)
and watch this SELF-EXPLANATORY videos
10 parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfiR26Er2I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfiR26Er2I)
you can find these videos on youtube with any language subtitles

while watching keep these words in mind "this is a great adventure"

Don't u think that this voice in the second link it is Dr.Murray's voice?????? if u don't belive compare with his speech:

http://www.youtube.com/user/IDK3MJ (http://www.youtube.com/user/IDK3MJ)

so Dr.Murray did another project with Michael called 777 Aleje!!!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: IDK3MJ on February 27, 2010, 07:29:23 PM
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
He is talking about 2012.... that was filmed at the end of 2008 or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12 so we have all year 2009, all year 2010, all year 2011 and all 2012..... it´s four....
And it´s not the end of the world..... if we wake up.... here is something about the maya prediction... it is misunderstood.... but Michael warned us because to live this as a spiritual change we must connect to it..... in one word... LOVE
"This was the ceremony the initiates took to enter the true God Centered Paradigm of galactic center. This was the true birth of the Mayan cosmovision, and the fall of the polar and zenith centered cosmologies.
Perhaps the most difficult concept to fathom is the precessional cycle of 26,000 years determined by the axis of the Earth inscribing a great circular arc in the heavens know as the 26,000 year precession. The final analysis of the Maya Cosmogenesis 2012 shows how the rising sun on December 21st, 2012 will align itself directly with the center of the galaxy. This wobbling of Earth's axis changes our orientation to galactic center and this opens the way for the beginning of a new world age, a re-birth into an entirely new participation in the greater whole. This 2012 solar galactic alignment offers all of humanity the opportunity to assimilate the complete understanding of returning to galactic center. It will augur the complete understanding of the ascent and decent of our higher minds and spiritual understanding.

This momentous end cycle moment will create a never before experienced spiritual and metaphysical phenomenon, a bridge to galactic center. This moment in our history will create a new re-birth as a result of the churning of the Milky Way ocean"


I absolutly agree, but what is more important, NWO plan is to leave only them ( a group of people) and 200 mln of us as slaves (the rest must die), that is why Illuminatti say about depopulation, they want to get into new era with the best technology and money into new astro-period, that is why they don't need most of us and they will use HAARP to destroy us by earthquecks and etc by the end of 2012!!!! They want to live in a better world as kings, on higher level of mind and concinsness...that is why they plan to kill us using HAARP as a tool to exegurate natural but not very harmless changes during this astrologic change in planets positioning. If u don't belive, start looking for NWO plan on Youtube. That is why Michael wants us to start acting...there is no much time for us....we must say stop to NWO or....we will be murdered....during these 4 years...countdown has started in 2008 so that is why MJ says about 4 years...

Yvonne
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: paula-c on February 27, 2010, 07:52:06 PM
HAARP
These acronyms are a mysterious American air force project whose acronym HAARP, High Frequency Advanced Auroral Research Project. Military facilities located in Gakona, Alaska, is developing a mysterious project consisting of 180 antennas will be working together as a single antenna that will issue 1 GW = 1,000,000,000 W, is a high-frequency which penetrate in the lower atmosphere and interact with the aureales elecrojets current radio waves billion.
The HAARP would act as an ionospheric heating large, the most powerful in the world. In this respect might be the most sophisticated geophysical weapon built by man; there are those who believe that behind the HAARP Project hides something else? Strange climate control of the mind and produce even earthquakes modification experiments?
 
Certainly something scientifically out in this whole project HAARP with its hundreds of millions of Watts of power and antenna can be considered a true "heater" of the upper atmosphere, causing a tremendous ionization which can lead to unforeseen consequences, and which, thanks to its effect, "mirror" could address their effects to any area of the planet. Talking about a new type of weapon, able to intensify storms, prolonged drought over an alleged enemy territory, could have disastrous consequences for our planet.

A report travels the world with this recent tragedy, a report prepared by the Russian northern fleet would be indicating that the earthquake that has devastated Haiti was the "clear" a test result of the US Navy in one of its "arms of earthquakes". The report warns, is the plan of the United States of Iran destruction through a series of earthquakes designed to overthrow the current Islamic regime. According to another report matching data have to establish that the earthquake in Sichuan, China, 12 May 2008 with a magnitude of 7.8 Richter, was also created by the HAARP RF. Developed a linear succession of reported earthquakes which coincidentally occurred in all the same depth chart
Venezuela 8 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Honduras 11 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Haiti 12 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Other replicas had depths of about 10 km.
Confirmed similar atrocity is prevailing, urgent that the international organizations, parliaments and Governments of all countries, the scientific community of the world, and across social organization, mobilization and decide immediately on the banning of "arms geofísicas" based in the United States, apelemos to the universal conscience
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: IDK3MJ on February 27, 2010, 08:05:36 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
HAARP
These acronyms are a mysterious American air force project whose acronym HAARP, High Frequency Advanced Auroral Research Project. Military facilities located in Gakona, Alaska, is developing a mysterious project consisting of 180 antennas will be working together as a single antenna that will issue 1 GW = 1,000,000,000 W, is a high-frequency which penetrate in the lower atmosphere and interact with the aureales elecrojets current radio waves billion.
The HAARP would act as an ionospheric heating large, the most powerful in the world. In this respect might be the most sophisticated geophysical weapon built by man; there are those who believe that behind the HAARP Project hides something else? Strange climate control of the mind and produce even earthquakes modification experiments?  
Certainly something scientifically out in this whole project HAARP with its hundreds of millions of Watts of power and antenna can be considered a true "heater" of the upper atmosphere, causing a tremendous ionization which can lead to unforeseen consequences, and which, thanks to its effect, "mirror" could address their effects to any area of the planet. Talking about a new type of weapon, able to intensify storms, prolonged drought over an alleged enemy territory, could have disastrous consequences for our planet.
A report travels the world with this recent tragedy, a report prepared by the Russian northern fleet would be indicating that the earthquake that has devastated Haiti was the "clear" a test result of the US Navy in one of its "arms of earthquakes". The report warns, is the plan of the United States of Iran destruction through a series of earthquakes designed to overthrow the current Islamic regime. According to another report matching data have to establish that the earthquake in Sichuan, China, 12 May 2008 with a magnitude of 7.8 Richter, was also created by the HAARP RF. Developed a linear succession of reported earthquakes which coincidentally occurred in all the same depth chart
Venezuela 8 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Honduras 11 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Haiti 12 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Other replicas had depths of about 10 km.
Confirmed similar atrocity is prevailing, urgent that the international organizations, parliaments and Governments of all countries, the scientific community of the world, and across social organization, mobilization and decide immediately on the banning of "arms geofísicas" based in the United States, apelemos to the universal conscience
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THAT IS WHY OBAMA GOT NOBLE REWARD...AS A PAYCHECK NOT TO KILL THE WORLD....BUT HE HAS ALREADY PLANNED IT...UNFORTUNATELY...
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: IDK3MJ on February 27, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
If these natural created by man disasters keep up at the rate they are occurring, we might have even less than that :(   Natural disasters as a result of unnatural assaults on the earth and its atmosphere by man made influences.

well said...
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: paula-c on February 27, 2010, 08:41:44 PM
We, Nobel prize of war .... and now I'm going to continue reading The Lost Symbols, by Dan Brown.
"Any resemblance to persons (living or dead) or actual events is purely coincidental" :?:
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on February 27, 2010, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
When he sets himself up as God war will break out in heaven. Satan, having received false glory as the Almighty from his son the antichrist, will be cast down to earth along with his legions of demons who side with him in the heavenly battle. This will occur three and a half years after the peace agreement has been signed and marks the beginning of the 1,290 day desolation period.
:geek:

I am REALLY GLAD to see this!

Someone is getting the BIGGER picture!

I pray that more people will soon have the DECEPTIVE veil lifted from their eyes.

While the hoax is providing us with clues to many things about why MJ had to construct his "death" as a shock value for US to wake up to these REALITIES, it is also causing many to get confused and not focus correctly.

I have read the theories related to what some think is the meaning behind 4 years and I say it is humorous at times but, also very sad.

I am getting the impression here that there are alot of younger people who need their elders to get involed. I hope that if the younger ones on this forum become aware that they in turn inform their parents to help them gain a better understanding of this enormous concept.

Don't lose hope and give into FEAR!

Love you all.

L.O.V.E. = Law of vibrational energy!
http://www.60daystohealth.com/LOVE-PAGE.html (http://www.60daystohealth.com/LOVE-PAGE.html)

PEACE
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on February 27, 2010, 10:41:35 PM
Although this text comes from a website in which the plan of the devil ( satan) uses a deception on people to believe that this information is coming from an Alien, like E.T. if people of (faith who understand it to be exactly what it is) and interpret this information correctly it is very good insight to truth.

A SPIRITUAL WARFARE between good and evil. Warfare between God, Jesus, The Holy Spirit ( Trinity) <Good vs. Evil> ( satan and his demons).

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html (http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html)
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 :geek:
Below is VERY IMPORTANT INFO:


Humanity, though utterly unconscious of the fact, has a significant part to play in this. You (as a collective consciousness of the planet) are choosing the Negative Polarization by default, by the quality of your thoughts and actions. Thought is creative energy, focused. You get exactly what you put out.

Why do you think the Media is so important to us? You have (as a society), in your hypnotized comatose state, given your Free Will consent to the state your planet is in today.

You saturate your minds with the unhealthy dishes served up for you on your televisions that you are addicted to, violence, pornography, greed, hatred, selfishness, incessant 'bad news', fear and 'terror'.

When was the last time you stopped, to think of something beautiful and pure? The planet is the way it is, because of your collective thoughts about it. You are complicit in your inaction, every time you 'look the other way' when you see an injustice.

Your 'thought' at the sub-conscious level of creation to the Creator, is your allowance of these things to occur. In so doing, you are serving our purpose.

It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others.

We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful.

There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches.

You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.

That is all I have time for at present. I have a Sacrifice I must attend now.

No, not really.

Let's see if we can increase the 'depth' of enquiry and question matter in the next session. Seek beyond the superficial. Get to the 'Core' of the matter.

___________________________________________________________________________

Now if you read this as a person of FAITH and see it for what it is, this is a spirit ( don't know for sure which side it is on) but, it has told it like it is. It has given us Humans the answer, and WE have FREE WILL to choose what we want here and NOW!

L.O.V.E.= Law of vibrational energy.

Stop living in FEAR and Confusion.

Thanks.

Peace
 :geek:
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: still beLIEve on February 27, 2010, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: "IDK3MJ"
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
He is talking about 2012.... that was filmed at the end of 2008 or begining of 2009.... the date of the mayan calendar is 21/12/12 so we have all year 2009, all year 2010, all year 2011 and all 2012..... it´s four....
And it´s not the end of the world..... if we wake up.... here is something about the maya prediction... it is misunderstood.... but Michael warned us because to live this as a spiritual change we must connect to it..... in one word... LOVE
"This was the ceremony the initiates took to enter the true God Centered Paradigm of galactic center. This was the true birth of the Mayan cosmovision, and the fall of the polar and zenith centered cosmologies.
Perhaps the most difficult concept to fathom is the precessional cycle of 26,000 years determined by the axis of the Earth inscribing a great circular arc in the heavens know as the 26,000 year precession. The final analysis of the Maya Cosmogenesis 2012 shows how the rising sun on December 21st, 2012 will align itself directly with the center of the galaxy. This wobbling of Earth's axis changes our orientation to galactic center and this opens the way for the beginning of a new world age, a re-birth into an entirely new participation in the greater whole. This 2012 solar galactic alignment offers all of humanity the opportunity to assimilate the complete understanding of returning to galactic center. It will augur the complete understanding of the ascent and decent of our higher minds and spiritual understanding.

This momentous end cycle moment will create a never before experienced spiritual and metaphysical phenomenon, a bridge to galactic center. This moment in our history will create a new re-birth as a result of the churning of the Milky Way ocean"


I absolutly agree, but what is more important, NWO plan is to leave only them ( a group of people) and 200 mln of us as slaves (the rest must die), that is why Illuminatti say about depopulation, they want to get into new era with the best technology and money into new astro-period, that is why they don't need most of us and they will use HAARP to destroy us by earthquecks and etc by the end of 2012!!!! They want to live in a better world as kings, on higher level of mind and concinsness...that is why they plan to kill us using HAARP as a tool to exegurate natural but not very harmless changes during this astrologic change in planets positioning. If u don't belive, start looking for NWO plan on Youtube. That is why Michael wants us to start acting...there is no much time for us....we must say stop to NWO or....we will be murdered....during these 4 years...countdown has started in 2008 so that is why MJ says about 4 years...

Yvonne

Yes you are right.... there are people who don´t want this to happen.... but we just need to wake up and work in our spirituality.... connect to ourselves and our superior being... all that is simple as LOVE.... please this is not about being afraid.... it is ok to be informed... but if we are afraid we are away from love again and that makes us weak....
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Gina Jackson on February 28, 2010, 12:15:54 AM
Quote from: "IDK3MJ"
Quote from: "paula-c"
HAARP
These acronyms are a mysterious American air force project whose acronym HAARP, High Frequency Advanced Auroral Research Project. Military facilities located in Gakona, Alaska, is developing a mysterious project consisting of 180 antennas will be working together as a single antenna that will issue 1 GW = 1,000,000,000 W, is a high-frequency which penetrate in the lower atmosphere and interact with the aureales elecrojets current radio waves billion.
The HAARP would act as an ionospheric heating large, the most powerful in the world. In this respect might be the most sophisticated geophysical weapon built by man; there are those who believe that behind the HAARP Project hides something else? Strange climate control of the mind and produce even earthquakes modification experiments?  
Certainly something scientifically out in this whole project HAARP with its hundreds of millions of Watts of power and antenna can be considered a true "heater" of the upper atmosphere, causing a tremendous ionization which can lead to unforeseen consequences, and which, thanks to its effect, "mirror" could address their effects to any area of the planet. Talking about a new type of weapon, able to intensify storms, prolonged drought over an alleged enemy territory, could have disastrous consequences for our planet.
A report travels the world with this recent tragedy, a report prepared by the Russian northern fleet would be indicating that the earthquake that has devastated Haiti was the "clear" a test result of the US Navy in one of its "arms of earthquakes". The report warns, is the plan of the United States of Iran destruction through a series of earthquakes designed to overthrow the current Islamic regime. According to another report matching data have to establish that the earthquake in Sichuan, China, 12 May 2008 with a magnitude of 7.8 Richter, was also created by the HAARP RF. Developed a linear succession of reported earthquakes which coincidentally occurred in all the same depth chart
Venezuela 8 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Honduras 11 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Haiti 12 January 2010. 10 Km depth.
Other replicas had depths of about 10 km.
Confirmed similar atrocity is prevailing, urgent that the international organizations, parliaments and Governments of all countries, the scientific community of the world, and across social organization, mobilization and decide immediately on the banning of "arms geofísicas" based in the United States, apelemos to the universal conscience
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THAT IS WHY OBAMA GOT NOBLE REWARD...AS A PAYCHECK NOT TO KILL THE WORLD....BUT HE HAS ALREADY PLANNED IT...UNFORTUNATELY...

Paula, thanks by previous reply...Sad, very sad, to read this now! But that is TRUE...
Human being needs LOVE and GOD in the heart, kindness and faith. The world advances in technology but regresses in feeling and harmony. Sad, very sad to live in a world where politics and money speak higher than humanity and faith. God help me to understand this and continue ... I BELIEVE THE BEST IS YET TO COME ... ALL FOR LOVE!
It's moment to appeal to the universal conscience...GO AHEAD....WE ARE BELIEVERS!!!!
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: sailya on February 28, 2010, 07:56:59 AM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
When he sets himself up as God war will break out in heaven. Satan, having received false glory as the Almighty from his son the antichrist, will be cast down to earth along with his legions of demons who side with him in the heavenly battle. This will occur three and a half years after the peace agreement has been signed and marks the beginning of the 1,290 day desolation period.
:geek:

I am REALLY GLAD to see this!

Someone is getting the BIGGER picture!

I pray that more people will soon have the DECEPTIVE veil lifted from their eyes.

While the hoax is providing us with clues to many things about why MJ had to construct his "death" as a shock value for US to wake up to these REALITIES, it is also causing many to get confused and not focus correctly.

I have read the theories related to what some think is the meaning behind 4 years and I say it is humorous at times but, also very sad.

I am getting the impression here that there are alot of younger people who need their elders to get involed. I hope that if the younger ones on this forum become aware that they in turn inform their parents to help them gain a better understanding of this enormous concept.

Don't lose hope and give into FEAR!

Love you all.

L.O.V.E. = Law of vibrational energy!
http://www.60daystohealth.com/LOVE-PAGE.html (http://www.60daystohealth.com/LOVE-PAGE.html)

PEACE
 :ugeek:
Thanks a lot :)
Focus on L.O.V.E.
GOD BLESS ALL:)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Believe 777 on February 28, 2010, 09:21:42 AM
As so many here seem to understand the bigger picture I have posted a thread about my own personal awakening experience and I thought some of you here would appreciate reading it. It's such a relief to see that some of you here see the true reality of why Michael is doing this. ;)


viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: paula-c on February 28, 2010, 11:29:29 AM
Believe 777, Buddha said "God is you," Jesus taught us that the kingdom of heaven is within us, and also said it could work the same miracles that, and even higher.
Man separated from God and his word is lost, the Bible has been transmitted over the mysteries of history, and the mysteries of God speak we all have in and of man as a divine being. ;)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Believe 777 on February 28, 2010, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Believe 777, Buddha said "God is you," Jesus taught us that the kingdom of heaven is within us, and also said it could work the same miracles that, and even higher.
Man separated from God and his word is lost, the Bible has been transmitted over the mysteries of history, and the mysteries of God speak we all have in and of man as a divine being. ;)

 ;)  :D  ;) Thank you for these wonderful and accurate words.xx
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: paula-c on February 28, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
We must be united in this Believe 777 ,.. ;)
Title: Re: We only have four years?
Post by: Believe 777 on February 28, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
We must be united in this Believe 777 ,.. ;)

Absolutely :!:  ;)  :D
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