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Title: til he died????
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 21, 2010, 10:48:13 AM
Don't you say TILL? Maybe TII?
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjwr on February 22, 2010, 10:20:15 AM
hmm, that's very significant indeed.

TMZ is giving many clues.. some are real clues some are not..

But yeah.. keep believing  :D
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Sternschen87 on February 23, 2010, 08:23:33 AM
I don't know what to believe of TMZ anymore...
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: MJsDangerousGirl on February 26, 2010, 09:51:07 AM
"until" = 'til
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 26, 2010, 08:09:04 PM
It's either until or till, not Til.

Could be just a typo.  American media are not the best spellers.  Or maybe another clue.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: alkistisioanna on February 27, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
Til = This is lie?
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: somekindofsign on February 27, 2010, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: "alkistisioanna"
Til = This is lie?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I was going to post just that!
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on February 27, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
Previous poster "MJsDangerousGirl" is correct. It should be, until or 'til. There should be an apostrophe in there which takes the place of the "un" in the word. But if TMZ were giving out clues it suits them better to do without the apostrophe.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 28, 2010, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Previous poster "MJsDangerousGirl" is correct. It should be, until or 'til. There should be an apostrophe in there which takes the place of the "un" in the word. But if TMZ were giving out clues it suits them better to do without the apostrophe.


Sorry, but that is incorrect.  It is UNTIL and TILL, not 'TIL.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Datroot on February 28, 2010, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Previous poster "MJsDangerousGirl" is correct. It should be, until or 'til. There should be an apostrophe in there which takes the place of the "un" in the word. But if TMZ were giving out clues it suits them better to do without the apostrophe.

Your English grammar is quite correct my friend but, excuse my being slow today, what has this got to do with the hoax?
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on February 28, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
Datroot, Thank you. I am posting a link which shows that "till" and 'til are two different words. "Till" is not derived from "until" but "until" is derived from "till". http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/til-v-till-v-til-v-until/
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Datroot on February 28, 2010, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Datroot, Thank you. I am posting a link which shows that "till" and 'til are two different words. "Till" is not derived from "until" but "until" is derived from "till". [urlhttp://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/til-v-till-v-til-v-until/url].

Yes I know but how is the hoax involved (by the way the link doesn't work).
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on February 28, 2010, 12:03:45 PM
Datroot, Thank you, you're right, I don't think it has much to do with the hoax. But the first poster maybe thought there was a clue from TMZ? :) The link should work now, I hope.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: karen-ishealive on February 28, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
OMG no one can agree on anything not even this.
When I write until in short hand I write 'til but someone else could write it till, does this really matter. Imo TMZ are in on this they either know or they're being fed.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on February 28, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
Datroot, I should have addressed the link to poster "mjssoulmate" instead of yourself. Sorry. I read that post as if it had come from you. :roll:
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Datroot on February 28, 2010, 12:14:45 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Datroot, I should have addressed the link to poster "mjssoulmate" instead of yourself. Sorry. I read that post as if it had come from you. :roll:

Thanks, I was wondering for a moment because I had agreed with you.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on February 28, 2010, 12:33:07 PM
Datroot, Thanks, I know, sometimes I'm a daft bat. I'm going to go off and till the land but 'til then I'll do some more hoaxing.  :)
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: simplyme on March 05, 2010, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Datroot, Thank you. I am posting a link which shows that "till" and 'til are two different words. "Till" is not derived from "until" but "until" is derived from "till". http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/til-v-till-v-til-v-until/

Jeepers you all - so much ado - and I'm going to chime in too.  "til" can be used with or without the '  same for till.  In the sense they used the word till [cause there's more than one meaning] they didn't due any huge grammar error.  It might not be as old school as we like it, but it's acceptable.  If you have a big enough dictionary it will be in there as a variant of till [with and without the '] and until.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: somekindofsign on March 05, 2010, 06:46:07 PM
It doesn´t come at the HUGE COLLINS Spanish-English at least.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on March 05, 2010, 07:10:49 PM
simplyme, Here is a link re "until" and "till". The debate rages on.  :) http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090627022655AArzyP3 Maybe it's the difference between English, the Queen's English and American English?
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Sternschen87 on March 06, 2010, 02:45:01 AM
I think we can close this post now.

I am not a english native speaker but I learned at school: till

It was just kind of strang TII vs. Til
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: somekindofsign on March 06, 2010, 07:54:10 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Maybe it's the difference between English, the Queen's English and American English?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Good Point.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on March 06, 2010, 08:40:24 AM
Sternschen87, Was that at agricultural college?  :lol:
http://www.royagcol.ac.uk
Royal Agricultural College - Welcome To The RAC WebsiteThe oldest agricultural college in the English speaking world.  ;)
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Sternschen87 on March 06, 2010, 11:07:04 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
Sternschen87, Was that at agricultural college?  :lol:
http://www.royagcol.ac.uk
Royal Agricultural College - Welcome To The RAC WebsiteThe oldest agricultural college in the English speaking world.  ;)

Are you trying to be funny? Unfortunately I am not a native english speaker... like I already said. If you can read?!?!
And I am here to investigate this hoax and not to read such stupid comments....
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on March 06, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
I hope you're not living up to the stereotype of being humorless. I realize from your admission in your ealier post that you're not a native English speaker. Of course I can read and understand my own language. Is it not apparent? Well all I can say is that your school is misinformed. You are at liberty to not read my "stupid" comments. I don't think it is your decision to close the thread. The smilies are included to indicate the tone of my post.  :)
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Datroot on March 06, 2010, 12:15:48 PM
Are we still arguing this point?  Goodness I though this had been settled days ago.  'til is the abreviation for until, at least in England it is.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on March 06, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
Datroot, Yes we are still banging on about this. Thank you for your support. I'm sure we both went to school when English was taught properly. There used to be emphasis on grammar and spelling unlike nowadays. I know, by no means am I perfect, but I do try.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Datroot on March 06, 2010, 12:59:23 PM
Perhaps we are the only two who can write English properly (lol). Not to be insulting to our friends from across the seas, some of whom speak and write wonderful English.  I just get a bit annoyed when I'm told I'm grammatically wrong when I'm not. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on March 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM
Datroot, I'm glad I'm not the only one battling away. It's perhaps a generational thing or "two nations divided by a common language". But right is right. Language does change and evolve and that's maybe what we are seeing here. I do have respect for non native English speakers and think it's great that everyone participates on the one forum.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Sternschen87 on March 06, 2010, 02:51:52 PM
I thought it was till... that'S how I remember it from school.
With "I think we can close the post now", I understood that I was wrong  ;)
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: mjjveritas on March 06, 2010, 03:43:59 PM
Sternschen87, That is very magnanimous of you. I can't speak any German I'm afraid to say. I did French at school and it is of a level where it gets me by on holiday. I hope that there are no bad feelings between us and we can continue hoax busting. Emily.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Sternschen87 on March 07, 2010, 09:55:05 AM
No problem. I have already forgotten...
 8-)
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: deepu priyanka on March 07, 2010, 11:04:52 AM
I FEEL THESE R FALSE CLAIMS .......... NOTHING ELSE.
Title: Re: til he died????
Post by: Sarahli on March 07, 2010, 02:27:51 PM
I find it weird but when I read "until he died" I feel like they're saying that Michael decided to die (=hoax). I would have rather said "until his death". Maybe it's because I'm French and english is not my language  :?
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