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Title: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: superflysister81 on December 02, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Posted Dec 2nd 2009 10:20AM by TMZ Staff
Before Michael Jackson died, he ordered three pieces of art for his children -- and today they're finally going to be delivered.

We've learned Jackson picked out the paintings "Alice in Dali Land," "Lost Fairy Tales" and "Flavor of the Month" from artist Nelson De La Nuez -- and they were supposed to be dropped off the week of his death.

Obviously, the plans had to be shuffled around -- but we're told Katherine Jackson has arranged for the artwork to be dropped off this afternoon.

As TMZ previously reported, Jackson had a thing for the artist -- MJ dropped $13,000 on some De La Nuez pieces for himself just two weeks before his death.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/michael-j ... ts-photos/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/michael-jackson-paintings-children-artwork-gifts-photos/)

...just two weeks before his "death"...hmmmmm..... :?
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: Pammy on December 02, 2009, 05:56:21 PM
That was my first thought as well..... and then Im wondering why mention these 3 paintings scarcely ??
Michael purchased 3 paintings called Wicked Witch of the West,  "The Donut Queen," "Play Ball"
which were delivered to his home on June 15. They could have mentioned these NEW paintings also due that time :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/29/michael-j ... t-purchase (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/29/michael-jacksons-last-art-purchase)

Maybe we should take a closer look to these paintings because the last 3 one´s were also clues...remember?

Alice in Daliland
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/665/aliceindali.jpg)

Lost Fairy Tales
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3485/lostfairytales.jpg)

Flavor of the month
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4254/doublescoop.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: MissG on December 02, 2009, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: "Pammy"
That was my first thought as well..... and then Im wondering why mention these 3 paintings scarcely ??
Michael purchased 3 paintings called Wicked Witch of the West,  "The Donut Queen," "Play Ball"
which were delivered to his home on June 15. They could have mentioned these NEW paintings also due that time :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/29/michael-j ... t-purchase (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/29/michael-jacksons-last-art-purchase)

Maybe we should take a closer look to these paintings because the last 3 one´s were also clues...remember?

Alice in Daliland
(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/665/aliceindali.jpg)



This paiting resembles to the original one from Salvador Dali called "Persistencia de la memoria" = The Persistence of Memory.

The painting can represent some clues if we want to analized as such.
I get started ;)
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: MissG on December 02, 2009, 07:02:20 PM
Surrealism, dadaism, provocation, liberation of the imagination reaching th subconcious mind to be awared if the non tangable inner self, representing that time goes by, clocks may represent time, the present and the past.

The myths and archetypes that you set out on Alice in wonderland, as universal figures as the collective unconscious forces, notes each of them and points to the analogous relationship that exists with our current contemporary reality.
For Alice, normal life course seemed very boring and stupid!
Is an eternal dream of...X-capism!

The cards in Alice in wonderland represents the worldas it is. Depending on the rules of the game, each one will have the value you give them ;)
The game of life at the end is as absurd as the game of croquet, Alice said: "There is nothing out of a deck of cards!" The world as we are led to believe is this, a simple deck of cards. (We are not pigeonholed into your system, we will not be part of this game will not fail to live our wonders and always will run into the forest to seek the sap of life)

The rabbit...wow, the rabbit just happened to appear and Alice followed him..could that be the TIAI web redirections?

For me this scene is significant about these characters. I think when I look around me are always present. (The problem regarding this is that it is they who set the tone while others are silent, and not because they are these the most capable, but because others have come to be always waiting for the guide.)

In the collective unconscious we become accustomed to be guided by them, although the race does not make sense.

"Everybody has won" (is the response of the Dido when the race ends) This is  a cry of complaint, the world and the myth of utopia. The simplicity and superficiality: the race is over, the mad rush, the nonsense, no matter what you do or what you have, if you're poor or rich, if you have trampled and humiliated, the end of the day, we all cattle, and if you do not believe, "Think positive". It is the cry of despair Aldous Huxley in "Brave New World". Everyone of all and for all if there are problems taking a bit of soma and ready, no matter if you are a, b and c, in this world we are all happy, Everybody has won! ". In our world today that is precisely what they want to believe. We bring to the table different distractions, soma, to forget everything and we're just happy. Politicians do the same, bread today, hunger for tomorrow. Matters of crime and unemployment, if we have a beach in the capital.

The caterpillar.When answering the questionnaire that the caterpillar was made, Alicia surprises us with his conclusion: At least I can say who it was when I woke up this morning, but I think I must have changed several times during the day. And then the caterpillar gives a simple tip, but not least: be patient.

Cat: In today's world the cat is like a wise parent, or a professor who leads his students or just someone who helps us when we most need, or God. It is the archetype of the sage who has been down many roads and laughs at the young man's curiosity, why is it that he felt one day. I imagine an old saying, oh boy, oh boy! Everyone at some point we wonder where to go and bother us cat logic, absurd but undeniable, but this is not urgent and his smile disappears leaving

When Alice is with Cat, has a  curious conversation: "Will you show me to where I go from here?" Asked Alice. "That depends on where you want to go," answered the cat. "I do not much care where -" In this case, no matter wherever you go "-" Whenever I get somewhere "-" Oh! Always get somewhere, if you walk enough. " A Alice he thought this was undeniable and true, seems a little absurd conversation. The cat is a kind of God, comes and goes when he wants, without realizing it may be present at our backs.

Alice ends up getting used to the supernatural altogether. Live by it were in the midst of the gods and talking with them face to face ... it seemed quite dull and stupid for life even its normal course. And that stupid that life would take its normal course, no miracles, no surprises, living in the comfort of routine, yesterday and today and tomorrow as today ... ... ... ... ... .. how stupid would that life take its course normal!


                           HOAX? HOAX? HOAX? HOAX?HOAX?


Sources:
Gema
Günter Grass
Alice in Wonderland (LEWIS CARROLL)[/i]
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: mjssoulmate on December 02, 2009, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Surrealism, dadaism, provocation, liberation of the imagination reaching th subconcious mind to be awared if the non tangable inner self, representing that time goes by, clocks may represent time, the present and the past.

The myths and archetypes that you set out on Alice in wonderland, as universal figures as the collective unconscious forces, notes each of them and points to the analogous relationship that exists with our current contemporary reality.
For Alice, normal life course seemed very boring and stupid!
Is an eternal dream of...X-capism!

The cards in Alice in wonderland represents the worldas it is. Depending on the rules of the game, each one will have the value you give them ;)
The game of life at the end is as absurd as the game of croquet, Alice said: "There is nothing out of a deck of cards!" The world as we are led to believe is this, a simple deck of cards. (We are not pigeonholed into your system, we will not be part of this game will not fail to live our wonders and always will run into the forest to seek the sap of life)

The rabbit...wow, the rabbit just happened to appear and Alice followed him..could that be the TIAI web redirections?

For me this scene is significant about these characters. I think when I look around me are always present. (The problem regarding this is that it is they who set the tone while others are silent, and not because they are these the most capable, but because others have come to be always waiting for the guide.)

In the collective unconscious we become accustomed to be guided by them, although the race does not make sense.

"Everybody has won" (is the response of the Dido when the race ends) This is  a cry of complaint, the world and the myth of utopia. The simplicity and superficiality: the race is over, the mad rush, the nonsense, no matter what you do or what you have, if you're poor or rich, if you have trampled and humiliated, the end of the day, we all cattle, and if you do not believe, "Think positive". It is the cry of despair Aldous Huxley in "Brave New World". Everyone of all and for all if there are problems taking a bit of soma and ready, no matter if you are a, b and c, in this world we are all happy, Everybody has won! ". In our world today that is precisely what they want to believe. We bring to the table different distractions, soma, to forget everything and we're just happy. Politicians do the same, bread today, hunger for tomorrow. Matters of crime and unemployment, if we have a beach in the capital.

The caterpillar.When answering the questionnaire that the caterpillar was made, Alicia surprises us with his conclusion: At least I can say who it was when I woke up this morning, but I think I must have changed several times during the day. And then the caterpillar gives a simple tip, but not least: be patient.

Cat: In today's world the cat is like a wise parent, or a professor who leads his students or just someone who helps us when we most need, or God. It is the archetype of the sage who has been down many roads and laughs at the young man's curiosity, why is it that he felt one day. I imagine an old saying, oh boy, oh boy! Everyone at some point we wonder where to go and bother us cat logic, absurd but undeniable, but this is not urgent and his smile disappears leaving

When Alice is with Cat, has a  curious conversation: "Will you show me to where I go from here?" Asked Alice. "That depends on where you want to go," answered the cat. "I do not much care where -" In this case, no matter wherever you go "-" Whenever I get somewhere "-" Oh! Always get somewhere, if you walk enough. " A Alice he thought this was undeniable and true, seems a little absurd conversation. The cat is a kind of God, comes and goes when he wants, without realizing it may be present at our backs.

Alice ends up getting used to the supernatural altogether. Live by it were in the midst of the gods and talking with them face to face ... it seemed quite dull and stupid for life even its normal course. And that stupid that life would take its normal course, no miracles, no surprises, living in the comfort of routine, yesterday and today and tomorrow as today ... ... ... ... ... .. how stupid would that life take its course normal!
                           HOAX? HOAX? HOAX? HOAX?HOAX?


Sources:
Gema
Günter Grass
Alice in Wonderland (LEWIS CARROLL)[/i]


I think it was TNZ's tweets that were about Alice in Wonderland and which road to take a few days ago.  HMMMM. I'll have to check.
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: superflysister81 on December 03, 2009, 01:56:13 AM
and this is Nelson De La Nuez official site:
http://popcultureart.com/ (http://popcultureart.com/)

there is also a section about Michael Jackson:

http://popcultureart.com/page/oh2n/PRESS_CELEBS.html (http://popcultureart.com/page/oh2n/PRESS_CELEBS.html)
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: Game Player on December 03, 2009, 08:17:22 AM
The rabbit in the 2nd picture sure pops out.
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: paula-c on December 04, 2009, 10:05:45 AM
The first, basically looks like someone died
This Alice in Wonderland, and the rabbit, remember Cris Angel magic of Paris and his shirt.
Two watches, is a work of Salvador Dali called "The Persistence of Memory" (hold in mind everything that has happened)
The character of the letter "7" at heart, denuevo the number 7, is a red spot, that does not know.
The second table, Peter Pan = Michael Jackson
Pinocchio, liar
The rabbit again, Cris Angel, magic
The Wizard of Oz
Snow White and the pigs were stunned as if listening to something
Table No. 3, the ice cream truck (the coroner's fugoneta)
The notice says "This Way" ( "showing the way?)
Casper, Ghost (the dead) with good intentions
An ice cream colors of American flag
Ice = north pole, snow reminds Christmas
The table where the word "Frozen" Michael recalls frozen at age 50
And some people still doubt that MJ might be alive ... God give me patience.

I accept criticism of this analysis
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: CC on December 04, 2009, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
The first, basically looks like someone died
This Alice in Wonderland, and the rabbit, remember Cris Angel magic of Paris and his shirt.
Two watches, is a work of Salvador Dali called "The Persistence of Memory" (hold in mind everything that has happened)
The character of the letter "7" at heart, denuevo the number 7, is a red spot, that does not know.
The second table, Peter Pan = Michael Jackson
Pinocchio, liar
The rabbit again, Cris Angel, magic
The Wizard of Oz
Snow White and the pigs were stunned as if listening to something
Table No. 3, the ice cream truck (the coroner's fugoneta)
The notice says "This Way" ( "showing the way?)
Casper, Ghost (the dead) with good intentions
An ice cream colors of American flag
Ice = north pole, snow reminds Christmas
The table where the word "Frozen" Michael recalls frozen at age 50
And some people still doubt that MJ might be alive ... God give me patience.

I accept criticism of this analysis

wow! that´s great!  :lol:
i know that he is alive but again... why we need to see to believe :?:  :!:
the thruth is in front of us, ready to be believed...
"you have to feel that!" (in mj words at TII)
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: andrea_garay2005 on December 04, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
Oh my God, not again. I wrote a long post with severa links about the artist and it's gone!!!! I'm so angry. Yesterday happened the same. Now I have to search for them  again. One thing I can tell you that they mentioned in an article from june I think that the artist promised 3 paintings for the children....I'll search again.... :oops:
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: iMISSYOUMJ on December 04, 2009, 02:46:16 PM
Guys take a look at this thread,

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-thi ... 339-50.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/signs-from-michael-t2339-50.htm)

I don't know whether it's both related or not, but just take a look at it no harm.  :lol:  That thread is about Michael last are purchase.  

Just look at the Donut Princess, wicked witch and the baseball game? That's Michael's last three purchase if I'm not wrong.  :lol:
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: MissG on December 04, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
@ mjssoulmate: thanks for noticing my deductions.

I decided analizing that painting because keept my attention among all the others.

I am not sure if Michael Jackson was ever in to art, but to choose a painting like that, goes beyond a trendy art movement painting adquisition.

The painting has a lot of meanings. Only the use of the surrealism of Dali´s thema and it symbolism in the context of the political/ social/ psychological statement of Alice on wonderland can give an open source to notice the message behind it.

I am not awared of the artist. But to me, seems like Michael himself asked for that specific thema to be painted. Could it be?
Title: Re: MJ's Final Gifts to Kids -- Disney, Dali & Ice Cream - TMZ
Post by: paula-c on December 04, 2009, 07:56:10 PM
The clock on the right, may be marked at 12:26 when the 911 call and another hour of 12:30 arrival at hospital. Maybe I'm not imagining too
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