Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: TracyK on February 22, 2010, 06:04:52 AM
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I am so sorry if I did not put this in the right place. I will probably type up the call in the sidebar later on.
[youtube:3fpn8ojw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN_BL3x0Ns8[/youtube:3fpn8ojw]
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Thank you for sharing this!
It's very interesting to hear!
Specially the paramedics don't even sound like they are
in panic or anything... like "Just another ride to the hospital"
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I dont belive this, just bullshit. They think it maybe wasa prank call ? Well, in the 911 call, NOBODY says the name Michael Jackson, so why should it be a prank call ? Also when they speak : It's like they have to really think about what they are saying, if this was real, they would not talk like that. And now they all of a sudden know it's Michael Jackson ? Was it not public, that the paramedics thought it was an old and sick man ? And that they did NOT see it was Michael Jackson ?
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This is without a doubt fake. And this audio has been around since June 26, 2009. I have no idea why it's coming back around now as if it was new. But regardless, it's not real.
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i am shocked ,but i hope its fake :shock:
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i am shocked ,but i hope its fake :shock:
Don't worry. It's fake without a doubt :)
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This is going around Youtube:
[youtube:3gmozptl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN_BL3x0Ns8[/youtube:3gmozptl]
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He says he thought it was a prank call.
MJ not breathing and no pulse
They say they have ID with them and a family member already ID'd body (Paris? Prince?)
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I will say the "coma" thing was reported before the death. They kept saying he was in a coma on all the major stations.
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I didn't listen to the whole video, but the guy's voice sounds way too calm. I think it's a fake.
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I didn't listen to the whole video, but the guy's voice sounds way too calm. I think it's a fake.
But he would be calm... he is a paramedic. Its his job.
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Ive found this upsetting today. It confirms the ID issue too.. paramedic states he has the ID with him. :cry:
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
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sounds unrealistic
dont believe it
:lol:
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As I barely understood anything (I'm really bad at hearing english/american,and the audio isn't really audible) but well...Since when this audio appeared on internet ? Wouldn't this kind of things got out in the medias ? Television already ? If it was legit ? I didn't hear anything about this before you posted it...Did it appear in the medias ? Because I think that they would've picked up already,especially TMZ.
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As I barely understood anything (I'm really bad at hearing english/american,and the audio isn't really audible) but well...Since when this audio appeared on internet ? Wouldn't this kind of things got out in the medias ? Television already ? If it was legit ? I didn't hear anything about this before you posted it...Did it appear in the medias ? Because I think that they would've picked up already,especially TMZ.
Its only surfaced just now. I think i got there before TMZ... you watch, i bet it will appear on TMZ in a while.
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Yes, that's true. Just as dispatchers are always (or are supposed to be) calm. I remember asking as a child, why they stay so calm when it's an emergency. Mom would tell me it's their job and that panicking wouldn't help anything. ;)
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I didn't listen to the whole video, but the guy's voice sounds way too calm. I think it's a fake.
But he would be calm... he is a paramedic. Its his job.
Ok that's true! :lol:
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I didn't listen to the whole video, but the guy's voice sounds way too calm. I think it's a fake.
But he would be calm... he is a paramedic. Its his job.
still, he sounds like someone is telling him what to say or he's reading it off some piece of paper. then the 'he will be missed'-bit: especially being a professional in this sitiuation, he should leave his personal comment outside, regardless of being an admirer.
i would rather expect him to say something like: 'we have a cardiac arrest, possibly from medication overdose. we're on our way, we couldn't revive him so far. get gate x prepared, make sure there's no media or anybody there, we're bringing michael jackson in, it's critical. make sure you have the equipment ready to take over.'
that would be professional.
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The person is calm because it would be his job to deal with situations like this but i dont understand why he keeps saying his name how will that help not unless he cant believe the situation he has found himself in and he is shocked and as people have said where are the sirens and was there any family in there with him just the doc murray as you cant hear anybody else saying oh my god .
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DON'T WORRY MADE UP TO CAUSE CONFUSION N TENSION... ANYWAY WERE THE HELL WAS IT ALL THESE DAYS? WE HAVE A LOT LIKE THIS TO GO THROUGH, BE STRONG.......
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Found a cleaner, uncut version:
[youtube:2t5ampw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusaWm5RoxI&NR=1%EF%BB%BF[/youtube:2t5ampw8]
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As I barely understood anything (I'm really bad at hearing english/american,and the audio isn't really audible) but well...Since when this audio appeared on internet ? Wouldn't this kind of things got out in the medias ? Television already ? If it was legit ? I didn't hear anything about this before you posted it...Did it appear in the medias ? Because I think that they would've picked up already,especially TMZ.
Its only surfaced just now. I think i got there before TMZ... you watch, i bet it will appear on TMZ in a while.
I had heard this recording a few months ago. I thought we had all discussed it here or it could have been on the other site. The clearer audio was done on the 26th of June. If this was real, it would have been on the media, just like the 911 call.
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First time i have heard this, but i think it has been out for a while now i have posted the second youtube video.
Odd. I hope it is a fake. I just find it interesting that it addresses the ID issue that has been brought up in the autopsy report.. remember the bit about MJ being indentified by his driving licence?
In this audio you can hear the paramedics say "we have ID with us".... and if this was released months ago in the summer.. how would the fakers know to include that bit of info that has only just been released?
To me that little fact gives this audio a little bit of credibility.. :?
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Maybe it was done by Michael's camp ? To add credibility ? I know it's far-fetched but well...numerous of our theories are far-fetched...
That's like the autopsy report,if he's alive he must have the one to fill the information about it,right ?
I guess this audio I can't say anything...could be real infortunaly or is fake but was done by Michael's camp..
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First time i have heard this, but i think it has been out for a while now i have posted the second youtube video.
Odd. I hope it is a fake. I just find it interesting that it addresses the ID issue that has been brought up in the autopsy report.. remember the bit about MJ being indentified by his driving licence?
In this audio you can hear the paramedics say "we have ID with us".... and if this was released months ago in the summer.. how would the fakers know to include that bit of info that has only just been released?
To me that little fact gives this audio a little bit of credibility.. :?
well the AR came after then, they could have added that because of this recording! or not, I dunno what to think!
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I can't say if this is fake (sounds like it though), but I just realized something. Ambulances/EMTS/Paramedics absolutely call in with their passenger information. I know this because unfortunately I have spent a lot of time in emergency rooms. I have also rode in ambulances. The big question would be, do they record those sessions? and if they do...Where is Michaels? My first thought is, they probably don't record them though.
Here is what I overhear every time I am unfortunate to be in the ER for something. An example of a trauma..."We are in route to your location with, head trauma (or something similar) 11 year old Male, Pupils fixed and dilated, BP 120/70..ETA 15 Minutes. This type of information is repeated every few minutes updating not only vitals but ETA.
Over the hospital intercom you will hear something like Trauma Alert Level 1, ETA 15 Min and updated along as the paramedics update
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who would have made the call the guys in the back or the driver?
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what about accent anyone in the LA area notice anything?
no background noise as you guys said, in internal noise, he is very slow , not calm, so rude am i - brain function slow - i would not want him working on me.
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Is it legal and a custom to record conversations of paramedics who are intervening with a patient inside an ambulance?
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Is it legal and a custom to record conversations of paramedics who are intervening with a patient inside an ambulance?
I think its the paramedic talking on the radio to the hospital, or the control centre... not the paramedics having a conversation with each other.
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Is it legal and a custom to record conversations of paramedics who are intervening with a patient inside an ambulance?
I think its the paramedic talking on the radio to the hospital, or the control centre... not the paramedics having a conversation with each other.
Oh ok thanks.
The paramedic made an odd comment. I have a hard time understanding what he is saying, but if he said "he will be missed", that is odd to say (especially after saying he was in a deep coma). I understand that it isn't an incredible thing to say either, but I don't know ...I just find it weird...
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where is lady medic - are you around can you help here?
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Plus you cant hear the machinery working woudnt they be artifically breathing for him i didnt hear anything
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Hmmm :? well i do find no background noise odd. Did anyone else notice the voice at 3:10 or am i just wishing for too much :?
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I think it is fake, just someone playing with us. IMO
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@ topsecretgirl - think your right - some person who has nothing better to do
[you dont have a pm i wanted to thank you for yesterday - when i had a wobble]
x
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I would think intimate conversation between paramedic & hospital would be strictly confidential, to protect the paitents privacy.
If this is real, someone should lose their job for releasing it. I would like to know how this was released onto the internet??? Where did it come from?
Until its verified how it came to be public, its fake in my eyes.
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I heard when the paramedics entered the house of MJ, they said that they felt something not kosher. When they saw the patient they saw a resemblance of MJ. They also stated that the patient had surgery . We all know that MJ the night before he was at the rehearsal, and he did not have any surgery. They did say a resemblance.. so not him.. Too bad I cannot find where I read it, but I know I did.. as soon as i see it i will post it..
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I heard when the paramedics entered the house of MJ, they said that they felt something not kosher. When they saw the patient they saw a resemblance of MJ. They also stated that the patient had surgery . We all know that MJ the night before he was at the rehearsal, and he did not have any surgery. They did say a resemblance.. so not him.. Too bad I cannot find where I read it, but I know I did.. as soon as i see it i will post it..
Yes please do.. surgery, eh? Ive not heard that before... could that explain the blood soaked t-shirt in the closet??? :(
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That is so fake!!!! First of all...there would be more talking with the hospital. You can only hear a little blurb now and then. It would have to be on speaker because they couldn't work on him and hold a phone at the same time. They wouldn't talk to the driver because of the possibility of error conveying the info back and forth. Also, the paramedic would be telling the hosptial what the have done so far, ex: what drugs they have given him, comments about his pulse,Blood pressue etc, what means they have used to try and recussitate him. It is just too quiet for it to be real.So don't worry , it's a fake. Good try though ( Yeah Right!!)
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where is lady medic - are you around can you help here?
She already said it is fake, here :D Audio of paramedics in route to UCLA (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6099)
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@ the arabian nights
Sorry i'm a private person. Thanks anyway! I sometimes feel down about this whole thing to but next day is often better. I really hope the BAM won' t take too long cause my hope is slowly sinking. You won't find me here anymore after june 25th. I hope we get some more really good finds in next few weeks. I don't believe he would wait for 4 years that would be to long and pointless cause people forget facts easily. Gonna sleep now cause here it is almost midnight.
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I dont belive this, just bullshit. They think it maybe wasa prank call ? Well, in the 911 call, NOBODY says the name Michael Jackson, so why should it be a prank call ? Also when they speak : It's like they have to really think about what they are saying, if this was real, they would not talk like that. And now they all of a sudden know it's Michael Jackson ? Was it not public, that the paramedics thought it was an old and sick man ? And that they did NOT see it was Michael Jackson ?
you got it! no name was ever mentioned? unless the paramedic knew it was michael jackson's house by the address, which is also bs cuz he wouldn't know if it was someone else in the house in need of an ambulance.
apart from ladymedic confirming, this is the best clue that it's fake. i look at it as a reminder, cuz the 'hoax' screams get louder: hello!? i'm 'officially dead'! remember!? and just after brian oxman confirmed the fake ambulance pic and jermaine says 'airport' instead of 'hospital'? :roll:
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
You said it all! Definitely fake for me.
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I cannot even finish listening to that. It's a crock. As mentioned, no sirens. No sounds of anyone working on getting him back. And WHAT? He didn't know who Michael Jackson was??? Plus how the hell did it get on Youtube? Too quiet on that ride. I don't believe it.
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Is it legal and a custom to record conversations of paramedics who are intervening with a patient inside an ambulance?
I think its the paramedic talking on the radio to the hospital, or the control centre... not the paramedics having a conversation with each other.
well, where's the sound from the other end then? voice bits, cracking? nothing...
still not buying it...
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who would have made the call the guys in the back or the driver?
From my experience it was the guys in the back.
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As I barely understood anything (I'm really bad at hearing english/american,and the audio isn't really audible) but well...Since when this audio appeared on internet ? Wouldn't this kind of things got out in the medias ? Television already ? If it was legit ? I didn't hear anything about this before you posted it...Did it appear in the medias ? Because I think that they would've picked up already,especially TMZ.
Its only surfaced just now. I think i got there before TMZ... you watch, i bet it will appear on TMZ in a while.
Dancing, where did you find this? Isn't strange that this is just being released. One thing I noticed is the paramedic is communicating with UCLA, why didn't we hear their responses? They normally use radios to communicate. If this is real there is no way he would be that calm. I don't care who you are if you have MJ in an ambulance with you there would be adrenaline kicking in and there would be excitement or fear in your voice. The paramedic seems overly composed!
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I hate reading a video. I think people just like to see their words go on the screen..lol. Type me a message and play me a video. I think this way of demonstrating information is brainwashing... :lol:
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I very much doubt they would say his name over the radio, those radio's can be picked up by people using scanners and this would be a huge breech of patient confidentiality.
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I heard when the paramedics entered the house of MJ, they said that they felt something not kosher. When they saw the patient they saw a resemblance of MJ. They also stated that the patient had surgery . We all know that MJ the night before he was at the rehearsal, and he did not have any surgery. They did say a resemblance.. so not him.. Too bad I cannot find where I read it, but I know I did.. as soon as i see it i will post it..
Yes please do.. surgery, eh? Ive not heard that before... could that explain the blood soaked t-shirt in the closet??? :(
That has been on my mind a lot lately. When they said he was unrecognizable, my mid immediately flew to that bloody blouse in the closet. Man if they beat Michael :evil: somebody's gonna come up missing.
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i don't believe this recording for one nano sec..period
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I heard when the paramedics entered the house of MJ, they said that they felt something not kosher. When they saw the patient they saw a resemblance of MJ. They also stated that the patient had surgery . We all know that MJ the night before he was at the rehearsal, and he did not have any surgery. They did say a resemblance.. so not him.. Too bad I cannot find where I read it, but I know I did.. as soon as i see it i will post it..
Yes please do.. surgery, eh? Ive not heard that before... could that explain the blood soaked t-shirt in the closet??? :(
That has been on my mind a lot lately. When they said he was unrecognizable, my mid immediately flew to that bloody blouse in the closet. Man if they beat Michael :evil: somebody's gonna come up missing.
Do you know what plays on my mind?
That MJ didnt use propofol to sleep... but that he was getting cosmetic surgery in the home... that would explain the the blood soaked t-shirt and also explain the propofol.. i have a fear that they told MJ that he was going under aenesthetic to have some minor cosmetic work done and then just pumped it in to kill him... its just a theory.
Propofol doesnt give restful sleep, no REM.. so why use it as a sleeping aid? And why so late on in the morning?
Those closest to MJ say they didnt see any proof of drug taking... in the autopsy report there were no traces of painkillers, only the drugs Murray gave him that night.
Why didnt the police seize that t-shirt for forensic analysis???
I hope not, but its a theory that goes around in my head sometimes.
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No background sounds? In LA? Huh!?
Don't forget that awful VH1 is airing the Michael Jackson case on Fri. evening. I wonder if this will be on it? What they showed about Anna Nicole Smith last week was horrible and biased and who knows how much was fact!! It really was bad, I am so afraid to watch this week.
I'm not buying this audio, it is missing a lot of info and telling info that wouldn't be on a true call for paramedics. More garbage.
Keep the faith!!! I LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!!
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I heard when the paramedics entered the house of MJ, they said that they felt something not kosher. When they saw the patient they saw a resemblance of MJ. They also stated that the patient had surgery . We all know that MJ the night before he was at the rehearsal, and he did not have any surgery. They did say a resemblance.. so not him.. Too bad I cannot find where I read it, but I know I did.. as soon as i see it i will post it..
Yes please do.. surgery, eh? Ive not heard that before... could that explain the blood soaked t-shirt in the closet??? :(
That has been on my mind a lot lately. When they said he was unrecognizable, my mid immediately flew to that bloody blouse in the closet. Man if they beat Michael :evil: somebody's gonna come up missing.
Do you know what plays on my mind?
That MJ didnt use propofol to sleep... but that he was getting cosmetic surgery in the home... that would explain the the blood soaked t-shirt and also explain the propofol.. i have a fear that they told MJ that he was going under aenesthetic to have some minor cosmetic work done and then just pumped it in to kill him... its just a theory.
Propofol doesnt give restful sleep, no REM.. so why use it as a sleeping aid? And why so late on in the morning?
Those closest to MJ say they didnt see any proof of drug taking... in the autopsy report there were no traces of painkillers, only the drugs Murray gave him that night.
Why didnt the police seize that t-shirt for forensic analysis???
I hope not, but its a theory that goes around in my head sometimes.
question here? who would have performed the cosmetic surgery at his home? murray? unlikely, since he is a cardiologist (that is not a surgeon, he mainly monitors patients and performs tests to prescribe meds or other therapy), not a plastic surgeon.
and right: why so late in the morning when mj had to show up for an important rehearsal that day?
and there is no mention of the t-shirt so far (lapd report? tests on that t-shirt performed?), i haven't seen anything yet.
no match here...i think you can lay off of that theory.
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The LAPD didnt seize it so we wont get any answers...
And Dr Murray isnt an aenesthetist either, yet we are expected to believe he sedated MJ.
I just dont know... i think i need sleep.
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The LAPD didnt seize it so we wont get any answers...
And Dr Murray isnt an aenesthetist either, yet we are expected to believe he sedated MJ.
I just dont know... i think i need sleep.
exactly. he isn't even supposed to buy propofol. my brother is a doctor but he cannot get meds that are 'out of his field'. i dunno how it is in the u.s., but that's not possible. if you don't have a practice or currently working in a hospital, you can't even write your own prescriptions. at least not over here.
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Another thing is ETA was said to be 5 minutes. The Holmby Hills home was only 3 minutes away. That 5 min. ETA was said past the middle of the 4 1/2 min. video.
Makes you go HMMMM.
Garbage!!
tabloidburn I like this :-)))
"i have disguises, i can fool my own mother - mj 1988"
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can i just say my other half works for an ambulance service and i know for a fact that u can hear noise in the background when movin in this recordin theres nothin no road noise no sirens no moniters and way to calm,also takin to much time relayin the info insted of workin on a critical patient,also it was a one way convo with only the ambulance radio heard not the hospital,reason for calmness either patient is dead already or its fake,
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Another thing is ETA was said to be 5 minutes. The Holmby Hills home was only 3 minutes away. That 5 min. ETA was said past the middle of the 4 1/2 min. video.
Makes you go HMMMM.
Garbage!!
tabloidburn I like this :-)))
"i have disguises, i can fool my own mother - mj 1988"
watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8KzoP17 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8KzoP17XE0&feature=related)
(get his face after saying that, starts at 2:01... :mrgreen: )
warning: red alert on 'cute&sexy'!!! ;)
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LISTEN TO THIS>>>>>>This is how a "real ambulance" sounds when heading back to UCLA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=cXC1hutE ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=cXC1hutElQA&feature=related)
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This is how a "real ambulance" sounds when heading back to UCLA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=cXC1hutE ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=cXC1hutElQA&feature=related)
Thats a real ambulance!!!! The paramedic on the MJ video sound way to calm. and No siren? FOR ME IS FAKE!!!
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besides no siren,,.if the paramedic is talking to the hospital, how come we only hear one side of the conversation, and more importantly..no static...there is always static on a two way radio.
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
yes your right no sirens that is impossible!!
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what about accent anyone in the LA area notice anything?
no background noise as you guys said, in internal noise, he is very slow , not calm, so rude am i - brain function slow - i would not want him working on me.
i agree he did seem like you said brain function slow. lol.
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Hmmm :? well i do find no background noise odd. Did anyone else notice the voice at 3:10 or am i just wishing for too much :?
I thought the same thing at 3:10.
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This is how Britney spears arrived at Hospital, and she was still alive laughing, and they even had the sirens on for her............that makes me sooooo mad.
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1 ... ZBkWNiWaxc (http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=Tgq4GTx2EE4&v=XZBkWNiWaxc)
and this video too. Look how much special treatment she gets: this now confirms the fact that MJ's death was so planned....it was only mentioned by TMZ after he left his house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=GdHJLQDZ ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=GdHJLQDZUZA&feature=related)
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Another thing is ETA was said to be 5 minutes. The Holmby Hills home was only 3 minutes away. That 5 min. ETA was said past the middle of the 4 1/2 min. video.
Makes you go HMMMM.
Garbage!!
tabloidburn I like this :-)))
"i have disguises, i can fool my own mother - mj 1988"
I guess that extra 2 minutes was to account for backing out of the driveway? :)
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I can't say if this is fake (sounds like it though), but I just realized something. Ambulances/EMTS/Paramedics absolutely call in with their passenger information. I know this because unfortunately I have spent a lot of time in emergency rooms. I have also rode in ambulances. The big question would be, do they record those sessions? and if they do...Where is Michaels? My first thought is, they probably don't record them though.
Here is what I overhear every time I am unfortunate to be in the ER for something. An example of a trauma..."We are in route to your location with, head trauma (or something similar) 11 year old Male, Pupils fixed and dilated, BP 120/70..ETA 15 Minutes. This type of information is repeated every few minutes updating not only vitals but ETA.
Over the hospital intercom you will hear something like Trauma Alert Level 1, ETA 15 Min and updated along as the paramedics update
Yes totally.... but everything is wrong here...the medic, the paramedic, the judge, the lawyers, the family, I don´t know.... we are all of different countries and keep repeating... "maybe in LA is different" :lol: I think in LAland everything is very different!!! :lol:
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im close to LA and its not that different :lol: well not to me because maybe in San Diego we are "different" too lol
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It has already been confirmed by Brian Oxman that the ambulance photo is a fake ,so I would say this is a fake as well .How come you can't here the dispatcher ,don't they have radios in their ambulances ?
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After reading a little, watching brittney spears in the ambulance an everithig this is what came to my mind after a little inspiration:
1 the audio is real (yes it is not fake)
2 there were no sirens by the time the ambulance left MJ's house. ( we have been through that by now).
3 you can find hundreds o photos of britney being taken to the hospital, why not MJ's?
(which only remarks this is so fake)
4 that is exactly how not the normal situation of an hospital hurry is, so:
The recording is from the very same day of MJ taken to UCLA, no sirens because there were no sirens that day, the conversation could have been recorded with some sort of hand-recorder such as a cellphone (thats why you cant hear the other person on the phone) and what they are saying are just codes only they understand sayin: "Everything is according to plan, get everything set when we get there"and it is not fake, what is a fake is the whole thing, but I would put more attention to the tape since it could have clues.
by the way...check my other topic about Paul Anka performing this is it, it just sounded soooooo different.
L.O.V.E.
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After reading a little, watching brittney spears in the ambulance an everithig this is what came to my mind after a little inspiration:
1 the audio is real (yes it is not fake)
2 there were no sirens by the time the ambulance left MJ's house. ( we have been through that by now).
3 you can find hundreds o photos of britney being taken to the hospital, why not MJ's?
(which only remarks this is so fake)
4 that is exactly how not the normal situation of an hospital hurry is, so:
The recording is from the very same day of MJ taken to UCLA, no sirens because there were no sirens that day, the conversation could have been recorded with some sort of hand-recorder such as a cellphone (thats why you cant hear the other person on the phone) and what they are saying are just codes only they understand sayin: "Everything is according to plan, get everything set when we get there"and it is not fake, what is a fake is the whole thing, but I would put more attention to the tape since it could have clues.
by the way...check my other topic about Paul Anka performing this is it, it just sounded soooooo different.
L.O.V.E.
so your saying the recording is real but the reason it was made was for the hoax? just to clarify. X
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yup
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why is this circulated now?
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why is this circulated now?
the people screaming 'hoax' are getting too many and too loud. so they had to put a little reminder out saying: hey! i'm 'officially dead', remember? :mrgreen:
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why is this circulated now?
the people screaming 'hoax' are getting too many and too loud. so they had to put a little reminder out saying: hey! i'm 'officially dead', remember? :mrgreen:
I agree, I think many more are starting to beLIEve-
IMO this is damage control.
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but the leaks are coming out
how much more
we may even get a casket photo in the next few weeks
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but the leaks are coming out
how much more
we may even get a casket photo in the next few weeks
at the rate things are going I think that could very well happen,
no doubt fabricated though.
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but the leaks are coming out
how much more
we may even get a casket photo in the next few weeks
at the rate things are going I think that could very well happen,
no doubt fabricated though.
yup. like that 'footage' of mj being 'revived' and laying in his bed with a oxygen mask on. looks like some hospital soap trailer to me. even has effects on it... :mrgreen:
if this isn't a hoax, the family should react now and stop everybody. i'm pretty sure someone took a picture at the open casket viewing, which i rather look at as 'the meeting of the board'... :mrgreen: so, i guess no pics then...or some more fake ones. can't wait, whatever was presented so far was pretty well done. convincing to the one-way-thinkers... :mrgreen:
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Hi all
I have just sent an email to the UCLA with a link to the you tube transcript to ask if it is real or not. I will post the reply here if I receive one :))
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I placed something in here:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6182 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6182)
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Yes, I noticed that. Went onto the site but can't work out how to get back to June the 25th. Maybe someone else will have more luck :
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Ive found this upsetting today. It confirms the ID issue too.. paramedic states he has the ID with him. :cry:
The ID shouldn't even be an issue. I'm sure his family ID Michael at the hospital anyway.
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He says he thought it was a prank call.
MJ not breathing and no pulse
They say they have ID with them and a family member already ID'd body (Paris? Prince?)
There were a lot of people there. I'm sure anyone of them id'd Michael.
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
Please tell me you are not serious. ALL medical emergencies are emergencies. They probably turned on the siren after they got to the Boulevard which is a hop, skip and jump. That's what they do where I live. Michael was already gone when they got there. The horrible truth will come out at the trial. It's not a pretty picture.
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
Please tell me you are not serious. ALL medical emergencies are emergencies. They probably turned on the siren after they got to the Boulevard which is a hop, skip and jump. That's what they do where I live. Michael was already gone when they got there. The horrible truth will come out at the trial. It's not a pretty picture.
which truth???
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
Please tell me you are not serious. ALL medical emergencies are emergencies. They probably turned on the siren after they got to the Boulevard which is a hop, skip and jump. That's what they do where I live. Michael was already gone when they got there. The horrible truth will come out at the trial. It's not a pretty picture.
which truth???
:lol: :lol: :lol: exactly!!! well, the name of it is gonna be 'da troot', cuz that's all there is gonna be! no other evidence.
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I was listening this audio tape just one time I couldn't more!!! :roll: I had the feeling I heard Niagara falls in a lower tonality, so peaceful.... or someone's water pipe broke.
I believe this is a bad joke and as everyone said here the sirens were so silent that my ears hurt. :D We should have heard the sirens so LOUD, that we could have not understand paramedics words, so they would have screamed into those radio stations to communicate with UCLA.But instead of this, that voice sound as of someone almost sleeply and so tired. I saw a lot of movies with ambulance emergencies where could be heard some of the outside traffic, here is so quiet as if LA is a small idilic village far away in a desert.
Compared to this, the 911 call is really professional, although we know what problems are there too. So this tape is so unreal and suspect as it is the fact that it was released after 8 months, for me it has no credibility.
simplyme, regarding your opinion I must remind you that Jermaine has an interview in front of the hospital, in fact he made the statement about MJ "death". And he said: the personal dr. attempts to resuscitate my brother and paramedics and at hospital the emergency dr. and cardiologist doctors attempt to resuscitate for over 1 hour.
I have 1 question is it possible that 2 hours a number of doctors, many, not just one to resucitate a dead man ?? :shock: didn't they realize that he was dead? come on, Jermaine has a problem, because he said all this in an official announcement. Of course I am a BELIEVER, so my questions here are just to show that nothing adds up what we heard or saw in all these months.
Someone could say JJ didn't know the truth, if he didn't know, or he had doubts he shouldn't make that announcement until he clarify ALL even if would have taken 3 days to find out what happened. So as I said, there is no support for this audio tape as many other events that were here disscused.
Or I come to ask myself as other asked themselves : is LA so different in the whole world that even doctors can't make a difference between a dead person and one who is not dead? Or in LA the emergency ambulances have no sirens? Of course they have all these just for MJ were missing :lol: :lol:
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I hate reading a video. I think people just like to see their words go on the screen..lol. Type me a message and play me a video. I think this way of demonstrating information is brainwashing... :lol:
I am the one who made that video.. It was necessary for me to type for there are a lot of hearing impaired out there, my best friend is one of them. I hate reading what people have to say as well.. I was not condoning the video! In fact, I think it's crap! but before people started making a big deal out of it, I needed to get this out there. I never said it was real! But I did say that it was weird and contradicting. I was in no way shoving my opinion down anyones throat. There are others out there with that job!
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http://forums.radioreference.com/califo ... -50-a.html (http://forums.radioreference.com/california-incidents-breaking-news/149424-michael-jackson-dead-age-50-a.html)
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I hate reading a video. I think people just like to see their words go on the screen..lol. Type me a message and play me a video. I think this way of demonstrating information is brainwashing... :lol:
I am the one who made that video.. It was necessary for me to type for there are a lot of hearing impaired out there, my best friend is one of them. I hate reading what people have to say as well.. I was not condoning the video! In fact, I think it's crap! but before people started making a big deal out of it, I needed to get this out there. I never said it was real! But I did say that it was weird and contradicting. I was in no way shoving my opinion down anyones throat. There are others out there with that job!
great answer! you seem to be a very considerate person. i think it was even a good idea to display the actual words spoken, also so you can verify what is said. it's not too clear at some points.
note on the sirens: i read somewhere that it is not always necessary to have the sirens on when there is not a lot of traffic, meaning a clear path. although i find it still unusual since this was a life/death situation and they could have turned them on at least once when leaving the residence, to make sure nobody is in the driveway.
the other conclusion would either be that someone is already 'gone', meaning there was no need to rush anymore or that no patient in distress was in that ambulance in the first place.
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I hate reading a video. I think people just like to see their words go on the screen..lol. Type me a message and play me a video. I think this way of demonstrating information is brainwashing... :lol:
I am the one who made that video.. It was necessary for me to type for there are a lot of hearing impaired out there, my best friend is one of them. I hate reading what people have to say as well.. I was not condoning the video! In fact, I think it's crap! but before people started making a big deal out of it, I needed to get this out there. I never said it was real! But I did say that it was weird and contradicting. I was in no way shoving my opinion down anyones throat. There are others out there with that job!
TracyK you took it wrong dear. I was talking about the scope of the whole hoax videos. I was talking about typing the information out and then showing the a video. (you know like typing under a video). Don't take offense.
But it certainly wasn't wrong that this type of thing can be used for brainwashing. If you repeat information in a graphical way (typing out on a screen) with other dramatic efforts (like most use that music) it can brainwash you. Purely unintentionally. People are not doing the hoax videos to brainwash anybody but still is an old technique used by people who do use it to brainwash.
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I hate reading a video. I think people just like to see their words go on the screen..lol. Type me a message and play me a video. I think this way of demonstrating information is brainwashing... :lol:
I am the one who made that video.. It was necessary for me to type for there are a lot of hearing impaired out there, my best friend is one of them. I hate reading what people have to say as well.. I was not condoning the video! In fact, I think it's crap! but before people started making a big deal out of it, I needed to get this out there. I never said it was real! But I did say that it was weird and contradicting. I was in no way shoving my opinion down anyones throat. There are others out there with that job!
I am curious you said you typed that for hearing impaired though. Is your friend able to hear some then? Because a deaf person could not hear the audio from the ambulance so I am not sure how that would have helped them.
Not being mean, don't take it wrong again. I am just trying to apply that logic to some of the videos. Cause at first I felt bad when you said your friend was hearing impaired, I thought maybe this was a service to someone, but then I realized they couldn't hear the audio.
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It seems that audio from ambulance is real. Some guys from http://forums.radioreference.com (http://forums.radioreference.com) picked it up on scanners, and they say also that MJ was already gone by the time paramedics arrived there.
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I hate reading a video. I think people just like to see their words go on the screen..lol. Type me a message and play me a video. I think this way of demonstrating information is brainwashing... :lol:
I am the one who made that video.. It was necessary for me to type for there are a lot of hearing impaired out there, my best friend is one of them. I hate reading what people have to say as well.. I was not condoning the video! In fact, I think it's crap! but before people started making a big deal out of it, I needed to get this out there. I never said it was real! But I did say that it was weird and contradicting. I was in no way shoving my opinion down anyones throat. There are others out there with that job!
TracyK you took it wrong dear. I was talking about the scope of the whole hoax videos. I was talking about typing the information out and then showing the a video. (you know like typing under a video). Don't take offense.
But it certainly wasn't wrong that this type of thing can be used for brainwashing. If you repeat information in a graphical way (typing out on a screen) with other dramatic efforts (like most use that music) it can brainwash you. Purely unintentionally. People are not doing the hoax videos to brainwash anybody but still is an old technique used by people who do use it to brainwash.
i get you. it's like a mill someone is working to make sure, we 'won't forget'...like: hello!? i have to be officially dead!!! :mrgreen:
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This just doesn't sound that authentic to me. Paramedics usually are much more direct and methodical when communicating with the hospital and talk about ETA (estimated time of arrival) and not "hopefully we'll be there in 5 minutes." Plus, they have a method in which they report the vital signs. This all sounds too sloppy and off-protocol.
Most importantly, I do want to point out that something is off or this audio is spliced because the supposed paramedic says he (MJ) has no pulse, is not breathing then goes on to say he is in a deep, deep coma. Anyone who is trained would know that this represents "death" not a deep, deep coma. One would need to have a pulse and be difficult to arouse to be considered in a coma. That comment alone is the biggest clue to me that this is bogus. Just bogus!!!!! Hoax believers, we have nothing to fear; this is all in alignment with all of the other off-the-wall evidence (or lack thereof) out there. Michael lives and this will all come to fruition before long!
Long live the king, Michael! Michael, we have always loved you and always will! Stay well and strong for we will not desert you!!!!
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Apparently event the LAFD can't confirm if this audio is genuine or not!!! Lol!!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2866364/Michael-Jackson-911-tape-revealed.html
Note the sentence:
"An LAFD spokesman said of the recording: "I couldn't confirm that is one of our workers. It could be. They refer to 'pop star Michael Jackson' but it is not our practice to name names."
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Apparently event the LAFD can't confirm if this audio is genuine or not!!! Lol!!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2866364/Michael-Jackson-911-tape-revealed.html
Note the sentence:
"An LAFD spokesman said of the recording: "I couldn't confirm that is one of our workers. It could be. They refer to 'pop star Michael Jackson' but it is not our practice to name names."
well, since murray seems to have some reeeaaallly good friends at the lafd (he's sporting their pin!), i guess someone over there owed him a favour... 8-)
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Ok, so I can tell some people have already seen my post from another forum, as what they're saying is very similiar to what I've already said (which is fine). This is what I posted on another forum. I swear I posted here, too, but I can't seem to find my posts.
This is what I posted on another forum, but I'll continue to expand:
"Ok, here is why. The audio is like 3 minutes long. It took them 5 minutes to transport, and there is no way the medics would be talking to the hospital for over half of that time. The hospital would most definitely get irritated that the medics are rambling on about the patients condition. My med patches average less than a minute, and that would be for a cardiac arrest, also. We don't ramble on and then pause like 100 times. We also would never mention a patients name. Whoever made this video sounds like a complete idiot. And it's pretty clear there is nothing going on in the background. You don't hear anyone talking, you don't hear the diesel engine, and you don't hear the sirens. And they use absolutely no medical terminology. They don't say what they did, what they gave, how they found him, what rhythm he is in, etc. And the hospital would NEVER ask who the patient is. Never.
To me, this is clearly just some kids joking around who made this right after that day. I have absolutely no doubt this is fake. I'd be willing to bet just about anything on that."
And this is what I didn't post there, but I'm posting here:
Ok, now the purpose of a med patch is to let the hospital know what's coming in. We do this for every patient regardless of what they're going to the hospital for. It allows the hospital to plan for what room the patient will go into (or out to triage), and any additional personnel or equipment they will need. You speak non stop over a radio (but I suppose some people use phones although the ambulance photo shows a radio in the LAFD ambulance, so I'm assuming they patch by radio). So where this sounds like a phone conversation, it should be a radio conversation. The other thing is that the hospital doesn't interrupt you (because it's a radio). You say what you need to say, and the hospital will ask any additional questions at the END of your patch. So my patches typically go like this:
Good morning UCLA Rescue 71 with an ETA of 5 minutes paramedic Smith on board with a 50 5-0 year old male in cardiac arrest. Found pulseless and apneic, unknown downtime suspecting about 30 minutes, however no signs of lividity or rigor. Intially asystolic, CPR brought pt to V fib, defibrillated at 150joules into PEA and CPR is being continued. We've given 1mg of Epi x2 and 1mg of Atropine x2. Pt does have an IO in place and is intubated. Do you require anything further?
At this point, the hospital may ask more questions or re-ask something they didn't hear me say. Or they'll say nothing further and they clear the channel. We'll give them more of a thorough turnover when we see them. But the patch is just to give them an idea on what to expect. They don't need to hear the patients life story in the med patch. They'd kill me if I did that.
So a non-cardiac arrest may sound like this:
Good afternoon UCLA Rescue 71 with an ETA of 5 minutes medic Smith on board with a 23 2-3 year old female chief complaint today is difficulty breathing. Has a history of asthma and is receiving a combivent treatment with some relief at this time. Lung sounds intially tight wheezes in all fields, now clear in the upper fields, wheezes in the bases, spO2 98% on the treatment, RR 24, last BP 110/70, sinus tach at 110, and an IV is in place. If you require nothing further, I will see you in 5.
That's just to give you an idea of what info is in a patch. It lets the hospital know the main problem with the patient, what I've done to try to make it better, and what changes my treatment has made in the patients condition.
So point being, that patch sounds NOTHING like an actual patch. And we do not mention any names, and the hospital wouldn't even ask. We don't pause and we don't say "he's in a deep, deep coma". That's one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.
Now, if any of you have any further questions, let me know. Because I'm REALLY getting irritated by this. It's on a bunch of news sites, the reporters are a bunch of idiots, and the audio is fake. And what really bothers me is if people believe this is real, it makes us paramedics look like morons.
Edit - Also, this audio appeared on June 26, 2009. I found it a few months ago, but no one had really talked about it, so I ignored it since it was pretty clear that it was fake. I have no idea why it's resurfaced now.
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thank you for your contribution to me that's it fake
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GUYYYS!!!
just this minute, german rtl television news reports that 'conrad murray maybe lied' and that 'a tape is going to prove it'. they played the audio which we are talking about here (like for the last 3 days... :roll: ). if it's on rtl, pretty much all of germany/ europe has just seen this!
since the audio is proven fake, they will have to reveal that soon, too!!!
yesss!!! total strike, mike!!! bow to the king!!!
:mrgreen:
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GUYYYS!!!
just this minute, german rtl television news reports that 'conrad murray maybe lied' and that 'a tape is going to prove it'. they played the audio which we are talking about here (like for the last 3 days... :roll: ). if it's on rtl, pretty much all of germany/ europe has just seen this!
since the audio is proven fake, they will have to reveal that soon, too!!!
yesss!!! total strike, mike!!! bow to the king!!!
:mrgreen:
please explain i have a pretty but dim moment
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IT'S NOT FAKE
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
look for ladymedic on here and read her posts. she said it's fake months ago and explains why. read a little through the whole thread before you comment, i notice that some things posted at the end of threads have already been addressed on earlier pages. that starts explaining everything all over again, threads will turn circles. that's preventable.
peace. :mrgreen:
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
I posted web site where guys who listen and record scanners, testified on their forum that MJ was dead, way before TMZ posted. You can ask them questions, they also have CD and DVD with scanner records from past that you can buy.
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
look for ladymedic on here and read her posts. she said it's fake months ago and explains why. read a little through the whole thread before you comment, i notice that some things posted at the end of threads have already been addressed on earlier pages. that starts explaining everything all over again, threads will turn circles. that's preventable.
peace. :mrgreen:
I know it's fake ;) Just interested in how Venus7 can be so sure that its not.
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
I posted web site where guys who listen and record scanners, testified on their forum that MJ was dead, way before TMZ posted. You can ask them questions, they also have CD and DVD with scanner records from past that you can buy.
no stuff... :roll: ...you mean they're making their living selling cds and dvds with audio collected from different ambulance recordings...?
my...how very interesting... :mrgreen:
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
I posted web site where guys who listen and record scanners, testified on their forum that MJ was dead, way before TMZ posted. You can ask them questions, they also have CD and DVD with scanner records from past that you can buy.
As I paramedic, I feel very comfortable saying it's entirely fake. There is no way an actual paramedic would say anything close to that to the hospital. Nor would they have stayed on for 3 minutes out of a 5 minute transport.
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
I posted web site where guys who listen and record scanners, testified on their forum that MJ was dead, way before TMZ posted. You can ask them questions, they also have CD and DVD with scanner records from past that you can buy.
no stuff... :roll: ...you mean they're making their living selling cds and dvds with audio collected from different ambulance recordings...?
my...how very interesting... :mrgreen:
No. They don't make a living from that, only few people. Mostly they do this(listening scanners) as a hobby.
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Not sure if this will helpful. Policies:
http://www.sanfranciscoems.org/index.ph ... exten=html (http://www.sanfranciscoems.org/index.php?cat=no&name=policies&exten=html)
http://www.ochealthinfo.com/docs/medica ... 600.00.pdf (http://www.ochealthinfo.com/docs/medical/ems/P&P/600.00.pdf)
http://ems.dhs.lacounty.gov/policies/Ref500/Ref500.htm (http://ems.dhs.lacounty.gov/policies/Ref500/Ref500.htm)
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Not sure if this will helpful. Policies:
http://www.sanfranciscoems.org/index.ph ... exten=html (http://www.sanfranciscoems.org/index.php?cat=no&name=policies&exten=html)
http://www.ochealthinfo.com/docs/medica ... 600.00.pdf (http://www.ochealthinfo.com/docs/medical/ems/P&P/600.00.pdf)
http://ems.dhs.lacounty.gov/policies/Ref500/Ref500.htm (http://ems.dhs.lacounty.gov/policies/Ref500/Ref500.htm)
Just reading the first source should be enough for everyone to know that it's fake if my word wasn't enough. :D
Quick edit to explain - the first source is NOT LAFD, but it outlines what the hospital is looking for in a patch, and this is pretty standard with little tweaks here and there depending on service/hospital. And it's pretty darn clear that this audio does not follow those guidelines. Not even close. And you can also refer to the example patches I posted earlier. You can see how the follow those guidelines nearly to a T. It has the same information. It's fairly universal, which you can tell because I'm over on the east coast and our med patch protocols are nearly identical to the ones in Cali.
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Not sure if this will helpful. Policies:
http://www.sanfranciscoems.org/index.ph ... exten=html (http://www.sanfranciscoems.org/index.php?cat=no&name=policies&exten=html)
http://www.ochealthinfo.com/docs/medica ... 600.00.pdf (http://www.ochealthinfo.com/docs/medical/ems/P&P/600.00.pdf)
http://ems.dhs.lacounty.gov/policies/Ref500/Ref500.htm (http://ems.dhs.lacounty.gov/policies/Ref500/Ref500.htm)
Just reading the first source should be enough for everyone to know that it's fake if my word wasn't enough. :D
Based on what you wrote, I'd take your word over the random wack job posters any day. Thanks.
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
I posted web site where guys who listen and record scanners, testified on their forum that MJ was dead, way before TMZ posted. You can ask them questions, they also have CD and DVD with scanner records from past that you can buy.
no stuff... :roll: ...you mean they're making their living selling cds and dvds with audio collected from different ambulance recordings...?
my...how very interesting... :mrgreen:
No. They don't make a living from that, only few people. Mostly they do this(listening scanners) as a hobby.
still, the fact that they're selling it, too, means it is available to anyone either to copy from it or use it as 'how to fake it'-training material. get it? :mrgreen:
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still, the fact that they're selling it, too, means it is available to anyone either to copy from it or use it as 'how to fake it'-training material. get it? :mrgreen:
Don't make me laugh...they are not selling "MJ's audio records", they selling pre-historic archives, like that one:
http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioRefer ... 521310.htm (http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioReference_Database_CD_ROM_p/42-521310.htm)
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still, the fact that they're selling it, too, means it is available to anyone either to copy from it or use it as 'how to fake it'-training material. get it? :mrgreen:
Don't make me laugh...they are not selling "MJ's audio records", they selling pre-historic archives, like that one:
http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioRefer ... 521310.htm (http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioReference_Database_CD_ROM_p/42-521310.htm)
But the patch is still fake.
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As I barely understood anything (I'm really bad at hearing english/american,and the audio isn't really audible) but well...Since when this audio appeared on internet ? Wouldn't this kind of things got out in the medias ? Television already ? If it was legit ? I didn't hear anything about this before you posted it...Did it appear in the medias ? Because I think that they would've picked up already,especially TMZ.
Its only surfaced just now. I think i got there before TMZ... you watch, i bet it will appear on TMZ in a while.
TOLD YA!!! All over the news today!
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still, the fact that they're selling it, too, means it is available to anyone either to copy from it or use it as 'how to fake it'-training material. get it? :mrgreen:
Don't make me laugh...they are not selling "MJ's audio records", they selling pre-historic archives, like that one:
http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioRefer ... 521310.htm (http://www.scannermaster.com/RadioReference_Database_CD_ROM_p/42-521310.htm)
like i said: training material... :mrgreen:
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the ambulance tape is now all over the tabloids! they finally caught up on it it about 3 hrs ago... :mrgreen:
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the ambulance tape is now all over the tabloids! they finally caught up on it it about 3 hrs ago... :mrgreen:
But do you know what is strange??? This ambulance tape was actually on youtube back in July 2009... :?
So.. who and why re-circulate it now and why the news pounced on it??? Who is watching who??? Who is pushing this out there NOW???
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the ambulance tape is now all over the tabloids! they finally caught up on it it about 3 hrs ago... :mrgreen:
But do you know what is strange??? This ambulance tape was actually on youtube back in July 2009... :?
So.. who and why re-circulate it now and why the news pounced on it??? Who is watching who??? Who is pushing this out there NOW???
It was actually back in June!! And some news site said they found it on an EMS forum. I haven't seen it anywhere else but youtube and I'm on a few EMS forums. I have no idea why it's come up now. Maybe someone just discovered it and thought it was real and a huge find or something. I'm so annoyed by this. The person in to audio makes us (EMS) sound like idiots.
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I asked the person who postede it yesterday and they say they g
ot it from here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusaWm5R ... 1%EF%BB%BF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusaWm5RoxI&NR=1%EF%BB%BF)
this was posted on June 26th 2009!!!!
are people watching our boards???
who has picked this up in the mainstream media and why NOW?
to me, very suspicious
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the ambulance tape is now all over the tabloids! they finally caught up on it it about 3 hrs ago... :mrgreen:
But do you know what is strange??? This ambulance tape was actually on youtube back in July 2009... :?
So.. who and why re-circulate it now and why the news pounced on it??? Who is watching who??? Who is pushing this out there NOW???
preparation. they'll have to reveal soon that this is as fake as the ambulance picture.
watch: someone is gonna start like: good evening ladies and gents, we have just obtained the ambulance tape...(*blahblahblah*)...but as we learned earlier, the photo supposedly taken from that same ambulance was a fake. do we have to investigate now if this also fabricated evidence? ...
yesss! go and investigate, may we send you a link to this forum here? you're welcome! 8-)
that's when the whole avalanche is gonna start to come down... :mrgreen: that's my take...
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I think the goal to repost it was to prove that Murray lied.
Murray said to the police that MJ still had a pulse ... and now the paramedic says that MJ was without pulse!
I also heard this a few minutes ago on German television.
The first phrase of this news was: Is Conrad Murray a liar?
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I am so sorry but someone asked a question and I lost it so I cannot quote you.
My friend is hearing impaired and she was interested in what this had to say. I did not understand a lot of what was being said, so I could only type out what I understood at the time. This is why there is not much text. I didn't understand it all at the time. I understand most of it now though. I am glad that we have Ladymedic to keep things in perspective. I did feel that it was not real. It was contradicting. But as I said, before it got too out if hand, I wanted to get this out there.
Yes, it was posted on June 26. A subscriber of mine told me that after viewing the video. I am not sure why all of a sudden that audio is starting to circulate now. I don't even know how she found it. I sure wish this would have been brought to our attention June 26! It was shocking to me at first. After the shock wore off I started to notice that this seemed pretty unprofessional.
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FAKE!!!!
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
Please tell me you are not serious. ALL medical emergencies are emergencies. They probably turned on the siren after they got to the Boulevard which is a hop, skip and jump. That's what they do where I live. Michael was already gone when they got there. The horrible truth will come out at the trial. It's not a pretty picture.
Well, here where I live even if the patient is found "dead" the ambulance turn on the siren and proceed as fast as possible to the hospital, since it has a little chance of reviving the patient with the hospital equipments (not counting the CPR that the doctors held until the arrival at the hospital).
And like you said every medical emergency is an emergency , so its nice use the siren to warn drivers or pedestrians that it is an emergency. So its "ridiculous" a ambulance carrying a patient with a "emergency status" and didn't turn on the siren once the patient is inside the ambulance...even if he's "dead".
sorry for my english , its not my native language :)
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
Please tell me you are not serious. ALL medical emergencies are emergencies. They probably turned on the siren after they got to the Boulevard which is a hop, skip and jump. That's what they do where I live. Michael was already gone when they got there. The horrible truth will come out at the trial. It's not a pretty picture.
Well, here where I live even if the patient is found "dead" the ambulance turn on the siren and proceed as fast as possible to the hospital, since it has a little chance of reviving the patient with the hospital equipments (not counting the CPR that the doctors held until the arrival at the hospital).
And like you said every medical emergency is an emergency , so its nice use the siren to warn drivers or pedestrians that it is an emergency. So its "ridiculous" a ambulance carrying a patient with a "emergency status" and didn't turn on the siren once the patient is inside the ambulance...even if he's "dead".
sorry for my english , its not my native language :)
I've posted this on another forum, but it seems to fit in really well here, as well. Regarding the siren, I can't imagine any paramedic, unless he was young, new, and sparky, putting on his siren in that environment. He has his lights on, and it was pretty clear to everyone around that the ambulance was moving. Sirens are LOUD. At that point in time, there was no reason to use sirens. It wasn't going to help him back out faster, and it wasn't going to get him there any faster. We use sirens to get traffic to move out of our way on the road. The most you might have heard was a quick "woop, woop" type of noise if the driver wanted to. But it's not common for paramedics or EMTs to deafen bystanders because they're being overzealous with the siren.
And it has nothing to do with transporting dead people. If I'm working a code, I'm not going to sit at a traffic light doing CPR. We'd go lights and sirens. Ambulances don't transport dead people. (And before that statement gets thrown in my face, what I mean by that is if we find someone who is "dead dead" and we do NOT work them, we don't transport them. The patient does not get brought to the hospital if no resuscitative measures are taken.)
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right..its was a emergency right? where is the sirens sound??? a ambulance transporting a pacient (and not a normal pacient..its Michael Jackson) who is dying or in a critical status and no sirens?? incridible!
Please tell me you are not serious. ALL medical emergencies are emergencies. They probably turned on the siren after they got to the Boulevard which is a hop, skip and jump. That's what they do where I live. Michael was already gone when they got there. The horrible truth will come out at the trial. It's not a pretty picture.
Well, here where I live even if the patient is found "dead" the ambulance turn on the siren and proceed as fast as possible to the hospital, since it has a little chance of reviving the patient with the hospital equipments (not counting the CPR that the doctors held until the arrival at the hospital).
And like you said every medical emergency is an emergency , so its nice use the siren to warn drivers or pedestrians that it is an emergency. So its "ridiculous" a ambulance carrying a patient with a "emergency status" and didn't turn on the siren once the patient is inside the ambulance...even if he's "dead".
sorry for my english , its not my native language :)
I've posted this on another forum, but it seems to fit in really well here, as well. Regarding the siren, I can't imagine any paramedic, unless he was young, new, and sparky, putting on his siren in that environment. He has his lights on, and it was pretty clear to everyone around that the ambulance was moving. Sirens are LOUD. At that point in time, there was no reason to use sirens. It wasn't going to help him back out faster, and it wasn't going to get him there any faster. We use sirens to get traffic to move out of our way on the road. The most you might have heard was a quick "woop, woop" type of noise if the driver wanted to. But it's not common for paramedics or EMTs to deafen bystanders because they're being overzealous with the siren.
And it has nothing to do with transporting dead people. If I'm working a code, I'm not going to sit at a traffic light doing CPR. We'd go lights and sirens. Ambulances don't transport dead people. (And before that statement gets thrown in my face, what I mean by that is if we find someone who is "dead dead" and we do NOT work them, we don't transport them. The patient does not get brought to the hospital if no resuscitative measures are taken.)
very nice! here they turn on the siren once they get the patient..and i know if the patient is dead dead they dont transport them. Well..the record was fake ;)
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IT'S NOT FAKE
how do you know that ? It sounds very fake.
I posted web site where guys who listen and record scanners, testified on their forum that MJ was dead, way before TMZ posted. You can ask them questions, they also have CD and DVD with scanner records from past that you can buy.
no stuff... :roll: ...you mean they're making their living selling cds and dvds with audio collected from different ambulance recordings...?
my...how very interesting... :mrgreen:
No. They don't make a living from that, only few people. Mostly they do this(listening scanners) as a hobby.
kind a like 'Ghost Busters'? :lol: